>>Spend so much time hyping up the Space Infinity Gem on

>>87841292
Well the rings
>Need intense focus, years of training, and the user must have prior knowledge/visualize the place they want to travel
While the stone
>Can instantly take you anywhere across the universe old and new if you know how to channel it, can maintain portals indefinitely if need be, and is a source of limitless energy

You need to focus when you use the Rings. You also have to have the destination in your mind. It would take years of practice to get "anywhere" and it's bound by how much the user knows.

The Space Stone is "Teleport wherever I want, fuck you"

>>87841292
how does the dude without hands use a sling ring

>>87843098
Sling Cock Ring.

When you think about it, Dr Strange (and Dr Fate I guess) are pretty worthless without all of their mystical items and talismans.

>>87843119
>and Dr Fate I guess
well since Dr Fate pretty much is his magical trinket

>>87843158
Fate, yes. Strange, not even close.

>>87843405
I thought Strange was nerfed pretty hard lately? I'm pretty sure Magik beat him.

>>87843444
Mutants are Mary Sues, go figure.

Every time a new idea pops in Marvel, it gets Cannibalized to make a Mutant who is better at that power than the original.

>>87843224
Isnt that DC

>>87843098
I dont think he ever does

>>87841364
>>87841577
>years of training
Which must be why strange learned in side a few weeks. Also, "sling rings" was a retarded as fuck concept to introduce into the movie.

>>87841292

that's the one you want to harp on, not the mind gem which is significantly weaker than Scarlet Witch even though it apparently gave her powers?

>>87844606
>Also, "sling rings" was a retarded as fuck concept to introduce into the movie.


>Magical device is retarded in a movie about magic

>>87844606
Honestly I have no idea how long his training period was in the movie. It didn't really do a great job illustrating that.

>>87845459

It's so confusing. There was an award on his shelf from 2016, indicating that his training was less than a year, but also one of the patients he rejected sounded a lot like one of the Hammer prototype pilots, which would put the beginning of the movie in 2010.

>>87845430
No, the fact that it's called a "sling ring" and the fact that if you lose it, you're shit out of luck, make it retarded.

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>>87844606
I have, thanks to your insightful comment gained new respect and admiration for this board.

I went to Strange, and I thought it was shit too.

It was just, like,
a bunch of CG.

I didn't care about the villans.
Then Strange beats the bad guy by believing in himself and pumping his own ego,

which is exactly the OPPOSITE of what the whole message to this point was.

Not only that, but the movie was a FUCKING ORIGIN STORY.
Way to treat your audience with some contempt, Marvel!

The movie was OK in 3d, but only if you miss good acid, I guess.

You know what COULD have been cool? That darkness dimension shit, that was feeding monk lady her immortality?

WHAT IF SHE NOW EXISTED AS AN EVIL ECHO IN THAT UNIVERSE!?

Now THAT would be more compelling as a villan; someone we actually have seen characterised on screen.

Not emo makeup guy and his collection of unnamed, unimportant mooks.


WHAT A DISAPPOINTING FILM I WANT MY MONEY BACK

>>87846106

sorry, did you get lost on your way to the Youtube comments?

>>87845574
>but also one of the patients he rejected sounded a lot like one of the Hammer prototype pilots, which would put the beginning of the movie in 2010.

2008, actually. IM2 was only 6 months after IM1. And Vision states in CW that it's been eight years since Stark publicly announced himself as Iron Man.

It could just be that the government is still trying trying to reproduce an answer to Iron Man.

>>87846217
Did you have a point?

>>87843098
wasn't he only missing one hand?

>>87841292
Not once in the entire movie do they show or imply that the rings can send you anywhere outside of Earth, faggot.
And Earth is an insignificant speck of nothing in the infinite that is Space.
So suck a cock.

>>87846106
>Then Strange beats the bad guy by believing in himself and pumping his own ego,
Uh, no he didn't.
He simply figured out how to use the Eye to cast a spell that would force the villains hand.

>>87846504
Did you?

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>>87846359

That would mean that Thor and TIH both happened in 2008, and all 3 heroes basically fucked off for 4 years until the Avengers.

>>87841292
>>87844890
The answer for both of these is simple and plot convenient and canon.

People don't know how to use them right and so aren't reaching the full potential like they'll be whenever Thanos gets hold of them maybe.

Also sling ring never tried to go off world, so distance wise Tesseract was still OP

>>87846724
>people using the Incredible Hulk as a legit source of information
Where's the point in the timeline where Banner gets surgery to alter his physical appearance and change his voice?

>>87843098
He did a bit of a lightshow, but didn't conjure a portal.

Plus he had one hand, he still could have used it.

>>87843487
Nowadays it's mutants being wrecked in favour of the NuHumans

>>87846724
>That would mean that Thor and TIH both happened in 2008
Yep.

>and all 3 heroes basically fucked off for 4 years until the Avengers.
One, actually. Unless Fury was bullshitting. Which he might have since he said that Thor 'leveled' Puente Antiguo, when all he did was fuck up main street. Most of the town was, in fact, untouched.
>>87846808
Same as Rhodey's.

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>>87846106

Stand back!

I shall use the mighty power of the Eye of Agomotto to reveal this demons bait post!

>>87846944
>One, actually. Unless Fury was bullshitting.

What? So the Avengers happened in 2009? Guardians without a doubt happened in 2014, and since Age of Ultron happens after Guardians (Thor references the Infinity Stone from the movie),that means a 6 year gap between Avengers 1 and 2?

Also means Iron Man 3 happened in christmas of 2009.

But Winter Soldier HAS to have happened in 2014, right? Especially if you consider Agents of Shield canon

So where does that leave us? Phase 1 starts in 2008, and ends in 2009,Iron Man 3 wraps up the year in Christmas 09, and then there's a 5 year gap until Winter Soldier, with Thor 2 happening at any point in between?

>>87847292
>Agents of Shield canon
Fuck off

>>87847292
>But Winter Soldier HAS to have happened in 2014, right?

I think so. Falcon says in Civil War that he and Steve spent two years looking for Bucky, and CW takes place in 2016.

>>87847499
Just because they spent two years looking for him doesn't mean it was exactly two years ago.

>>87846997
>its bait if it disagrees with me,


you marlel fans are fucking children


>>87846106
this desu

>>87847590
Nice samefag, samefag

>>87847539

True, I suppose. We know that as of the events of Age of Ultron they were still looking for him. That's the latest as far as I know.

So maybe TWS happens in 2013, they start looking for him right after. Then stop their search after Sokovia and Sam is inducted into the Avengers in 2015. That's two years right there.

Upon further pondering, yeah. TWS does take place in 2013. Steve makes mention that he's 95 years old. Being that he was born in 1918, add 95 to that and you get 2013.

>Using SPACE Gem to teleport
Why would you even do that? Nothing is stopping you from warping space in 5-6 dimensions of horror, to do it faster.

>>87843158
Depends on the Dr Fate. I.e Superwizard Kent doesn't exist to give fucks, he exist to be a superhuman doll for the Mask.
Strange is still pretty scary without items. Just not as stupidly scary as with.

>can travel around dimensions
>can't travel a few lightyears in the same dimension
>Wizards can teleport just their hands and take things
>haven't done so for any other infinity stones
>We can totally protect the world and send people into the shadow realm...but we can't make dimensional prisons for Loki or other villains.

>>87847708

What month in 1918? He could still be 95 in early 2014. the movie came out in what, April?

>>87847830
How little did you actually consider any of the things you posted there?
I'm going to guess fifteen seconds.

>trying to figure out the MCU continuity
>implying MCU time moves linearly
Forget everything you think you know

>>87847957
>implying the people who write the MCU movies could grasp how to use non-linear time in their plot
They just aren't that talented.

>>87847887
>What month in 1918?

I don't remember. I'll have to rewatch if Zola lists Steve's precise birth-date or if it's shown in the Smithsonian scene. But in all, I'm leaning towards TWS being set in 2013. It fits best based on what we know thus far.

>>87847328
Helicarrier.

>>87848044
I said fuck off

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>>87848050
No. Stuff in Daredevil spilled over into Doctor Strange, and Stuff in Agents of SHIELD had already spilled into Daredevil, so they're all part of the same world.

>>87848121
>Stuff in Daredevil spilled over into Doctor Strange

wait what

>>87848121
>B-b-b-but stuff in these two shitty low budget tv shows with dog shit actors and worthless writers is totally canon because I said so
Kill yourself

>>87848142
Metro-General Hospital is a fictional Hospital that was in both Doctor Strange and Daredevil. That's not where he practiced medicine in the comics, but in this version, it was probably easier to start with something already established.

>>87848150
Budget has nothing to do with what's in an established collection of works.

>>87848214

Is that the same one Claire worked at? Wouldn't Dr. Strange have either been at work, or known a fuckton of people who were there when ninjas attacked?

>>87848214
IE Bullshit that doesn't actually mean the two are connected in any way

>>87848245
I don't think he works the night shift, and in-universe, the hospital covered it up by saying it was a junkie that killed that nurse.

>>87848251
What would count as an actual connection then? It's the same setting, why is it not the same world?

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>>87848121

>Implying MTVU=MCU

Kek.

>>87841364
>must have prior knowledge/visualize
Like how Strange made a portal outside of the Hong Kong sanctum?

>>87848285
>MTVU
That's something you just made up though.

>>87848283
>What would count as an actual connection then?

The movies acknowledging events in the TV shows happening. Which they don't. The people who make the movies have zero regard for shit that happens in the TV shows. I forget who it was, but someone who's a bigwig in Marvel or maybe it was a producer for one of the shows said that characters who appear in the TV shows will pretty much never appear in the movies.

>>87848301
>That's something you just made up though.

But I didn't. I've been using the term for months now.

>>87848346
>characters who appear in the TV shows will pretty much never appear in the movies.
Objectively false, he must have meant TV actors will never appear in the movies. There have been characters like Lady Sif, Doctor List of HYDRA, Nick Fury, Maria Hill, and President Ellis who appeared in the movies, appeared in the show, and then appeared in the movies again.

>>87848385
>I've been using the term for months now.
Then it's something someone not involved with Marvel made up months ago.

>>87848395
>Objectively false, he must have meant TV actors will never appear in the movies.

What's the difference? Bottom line it basically confirms that Daredevil, Luke Cage and the AoS original characters will never appear in the MCU.

>>87848413
I've only ever seen it used to refer to the Marvel TV shows.

>>87848522
>Bottom line it basically confirms that Daredevil, Luke Cage and the AoS original characters will never appear in the MCU.
Why would you want them to? They're actors that were cast on a TV budget. It's still the same canon though, because the characters all inhabit the same world.
>I've only ever seen it used to refer to the Marvel TV shows.
I just looked it up, and the only times I've seen it used were by Reddit users who were immediately corrected that there is nothing, according to Marvel, called the "MTVU". It's all part of the same universe, Earth-199999.

>>87841292
Sling Rings rock. I ordered one today to sit in front of the MCU shelf like other one offs I've found from movies.

>>87846554
Yes, only the right hand was missing

Are the sling rings from the comics? If not, they seem like a pretty weird/random addition to the mythos just for the sake of what simple spells could do in the comic.

>MTVU

Music (heh) Television Universe?

>>87848640
>I ordered one today
Wuuuuuuut? Is it any good looking? Eh, I suppose you won't really know that until it arrives.

>>87848699
No, they were first introduced in a comic leading up to the movie but that basically means they were made FOR the movie.

>>87848615
>Why would you want them to?
I don't. But seemingly a lot of other people do.

>It's still the same canon though, because the characters all inhabit the same world.
Except the movies (or the people who make them at the least) refuse to acknowledge that and have no problem with contradicting events established in the TV shows. Even if it hasn't been officially stated yet, the TV shows, for better or worse, are effectively a separate canon from the movies.

sling rings can only transport a single person, and are presumably powered by an individuals energy, and they require visualization of a destination, so while you coudl travel to places on earth you havent been to, you could have seen them in a magazine, you probably couldnt travel to saturn or pluto

the Cube has unlimited energy, can open a portal of any size, for any period of time, and can travel from earth to asgard, or from earth to the chi-tauri dimension, the sling ring is the baby version of the tesseract, easier to handle but cant trasnport an entire army, or power weapons

>>87848709

I think it means Marvel Television Universe.

>>87848741
Looks good enough.

>https://www.addictgear.com/collections/doctor-strange-gift/products/doctor-strange-sling-rings?variant=32616070086

"FALLSALE" takes another 10% off. I paid more to get the three tokens from Inception made by a fan and the Babadook book was like $80 from the actual movie producers. So $15.98 or whatever is pretty livable

>>87848802
>the sling ring is the baby version of the tesseract
Its not even that.
The gem could conceivably get you to any place in the Universe where as the sling rings can only seem to take you any place on Earth.
The difference is far greater than simple comparing it to an infant vs a child. Its more like an ant vs a god.

>>87848802
>the sling ring is the baby version of the tesseract,

I've always liked to think that Sling Rings are the short range portable version of the Bifrost. Both bend space-time to create wormholes. I guess the Tesseract is just the maximum advanced version of both.

>>87848844
*infant vs an adult

>>87848783
>and have no problem with contradicting events established in the TV shows.
Like what?

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we also need to take into a few things about the infinity stone

GOTG showed that not anyone can just grab one and use it. You have be a being of enough power to control one.

Or you can be inorganic material like Ultron and just grab that shit.

GOTG almost got wrecked if it was for Quill being a half breed.

The space stone is also INSIDE the tesseract. Who knows what kind of dampening the actual cube itself is doing to the space stone.

Loki had to get Dr Selvig to build some weird machine shit that need Lokis Staff/The Mind Stone with it just to get it to make a fucking wormhole

Who knows what kind of power the space stone has without the actual cube

>>87849482
>GOTG showed that not anyone can just grab one and use it. You have be a being of enough power to control one
Well the gem purported to be the one in GotG is the power gem which is arguably the most unstable of them.

>>87849482
>that need Lokis Staff/The Mind Stone with it just to get it to make a fucking wormhole

no it didn't; Loki took his staff with him to the helicarrier

Doctor Strange made it seem like anyone could be a decent sorcerer if they studied hard enough, that's the point right?

>>87850621
In the movie its implied that he is a fast learner, also his interest in learning may border on obsession as he was so fixated on getting his hands to work again. His character is also made to seem very stubborn. Add to this the fact that the teachers were very closely guarded and not anyone would be allowed to even study.

>>87850746
*teachings

Fuck

Im really tempted to buy an eye of agamotto replica. Anyone know where to get one for the best price/quality? Ive seen a few, but Im weighing my options

>>87850906
Can't beat the price of making one yourself.

>>87850943
Yeah I have zero skill in that department

>>87848150
>The movies have better writing and acting than the Netflix shows

Holy shit actually kys. The only possible show this could work with us Jessica Jones and even that's debatable.

>>87851092
I don't know what kind of a response you expected when its such a one sided argument.
You're just wrong.

>>87845459
Not all that long, it was stated he was abnormally gifted in picking up the Art. He was able to read texts he shouldn't by his bullshit memory and he mastered spells that nnormally took years in a week or so.

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>>87849482

Purple: Power stone
Blue: Space stone
Yellow: Mind stone
Green: Time stone
Blue: ? stone
Orange: ? stone (I don't remember seeing it yet)

>>87851448
You said Blue twice.
The ones left are
Red: Reality (Aether in Thor: The Dark World)
Orange: Soul (Not revealed yet)

>>87851448
GotG = Power Stone
Loki's Staff = Mind Stone
Tesseract = Space Stone
The Aether = Reality Stone
Eye of Agamotto = Time Stone
???? = Souls Stone (Either Thanos has it or Adam Warlock has it)

>>87851595
>>87851613


Yeah my bad but thanks. Wasn't sure if the blue was space stone. I forgot about the red aether.

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>>87851613
Or Heimdall has it in the center of his armour, as some have theorized.
This ain't the comics, son.
Thanos picked up the glove at end of AoUltron and didn't have any stones yet.

>>87851670
I'm inclined to agree with Comics Explained in that I doubt Heimdall has it.
It may be somewhere other than Thanos or Adam but I doubt its Heimdall.

>>87851670
>>87851714

Where are we going to see it? GotG 2? Thor Ragnarok? I doubt it's going to be on earth.

>>87851812
Whatever they're calling the Infinity War movies now.
Maybe GotG 2 but that would be kind of lazy imo having both their movies be Infinity Stone centered.

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>>87851714
>>87851812
It seems to make sense to me.
In AoU Thor is the one that has the vision about the Infinity Stones and at the end claims he must learn more about them. The rest could give a shit.
Orange stone, orange eyes.
Heimdall "can see every living Soul" or somesuch he's said.

>>87851850
It won't be in GotG 2 Gunn has already confirmed.
And only the third Avengers movie is called Infinity War, fourth doesn't have a known title yet because they said to reveal now would spoil.

>>87851670
Or Hela has it. Souls are kind of her thing

>>87849742
Nah, the Reality Stone is the most unstable. It doesn't even take solid form most of the time.

>>87851899
>Orange stone, orange eyes.
Heimdall has orange eyes even when his chest plate doesn't have that stone on it.
I don't remember specifically but I'd assume its the first Thor movie where he doesn't have that stone on the chest plate.

>>87851991
What if the stone is literally inside Heimdall, Hela rips it out, kills him, and then uses it to raise her army of the dead and Surtur?

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>>87851948
Or maybe that's what she wants in Thor: Ragnarok. To find it/claim it from Heimdall.

>>87851991
Man you know they were pretty much making shit up as they went along in the first phase. It wasn't until after Avengers they got that committee together and really started to plan it out.

Then in Thor:TDW Heimdall suddenly has orange stone in armour and speaks a lot of souls. And it seems to be atop tree of Yggdrasil as well.

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Simply too many details for it to be purely coincidence and for them to just shit all over it and go with someone else.

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Since this has just devolved into an MCU Infinity Stone discussion:

What if they pull a wildcard move and reveal that Wakanda is in possession of the Soul Stone as an explanation for why they're so much more advanced than the rest of the world?

>>87852235
Are they more advanced?
We barely saw any of the actual Wakanda society.
And they're black.

>>87852235
The OP mentioned Infinity Stones. This was always an MCU Infinity Stone discussion pretty much.

I also don't know how being in possession of Soul stone would make them advanced.

Also I think it would be.. wrong. I can't find the proper word for it. But it would kind of belittle what a great nation Wakanda is and how it came to be. It's not magic that made it great, its isolation, its a great location on top of great resources, strong and intelligent warriors and leaders, and afaik a policy of not attacking first.

>>87849482
So what you're saying is all the items the gems have been inside are effectively Infinity Finger Puppets.

>>87852235
>Allows the user to steal, control, manipulate, and alter souls, living or dead, and is the gateway to an idyllic pocket universe that is much like Heaven
If they want to do the whole Necropolis angle with T'Challa, the soul gem would be a semi-decent route to get there.

>>87852338
The stones / gems have always been extremely powers full.
The movies imply they were first used by the Celestials and their technology, atleast in the comics, is absurdly advanced so it makes sense that Loki, humans, etc... would need devices to make them work even a little.

>>87852342
I didn't think of that. It makes a sort of sense I suppose but it still feels like it'd shit all over Thor's whole deal.
Perhaps after the next Avengers movies T'challa will be the protector of the Soul gem, sort of like Illuminati. Though he had a different stone in comics.

>>87852425
>Perhaps after the next Avengers movies T'challa will be the protector of the Soul gem
Oh, come on. They've already confirmed Adam Warlock exists in the MCU.
I doubt they'd so thoroughly mess with his connection to the Soul gem.

>>87852269
They showed a bit of T'Challa's palace mid credits. He had a pretty fancy lab where Bucky was being treated.

>>87852129
>>87852230
my money would be on not that he has it now, but has come into contact with it in his past and Adam Warlock taught him in the soul gem, that is if they go with the soul gem housing souls and the like.

>>87852471
>They showed a bit of T'Challa's palace mid credits
If I remember right, they show the interior of one room, the side of a building and that big panther carving. Not exactly a good look at their society.

>>87848346
IIRC, that was Whedon, and he's out now.

>>87852269
Wakanda has always been decades ahead of everyone else. They're just dicks to foreigns and wont share the cure for cancer

Wakanda's whole deal is being very technologically advanced. Hell in the comics Wakanda is the place where quinjets were invented.

The most advanced place in the US is probably Stark/Avengers Tower at the moment. And that's just one building. Imagine a whole city of that.

>>87852624
Oh, and maybe the former S.H.I.E.L.D. HQ where they built the helicarriers in DC.

>>87851613
I don't have the pic, but basically each gem is tied to an object that ends up spelling "THANOS".

>Tesseract = Space
>H????? = Soul(maybe Heimdall, since he can see all the souls in the universe)
>Aether = Reality
>Necklace(Eye of Agamotto) = Time
>Orb = Power
>Staff = Mind

I'm cautiously hype for Ragnarok, having Thor, Hulk and Strange in the same movie, plus it being the final movie before the first Infinity one should set up some last loose ends before the big fight. Although I think there's still GOTG, which may be used to present Adam Warlock, since his cocoon was already shown torn, which means he's dicking around somewhere in the MCU.

>>87851899
>And only the third Avengers movie is called Infinity War, fourth doesn't have a known title yet because they said to reveal now would spoil.

Not exactly, they just dropped the Part 1 and 2 shit, the 3rd movie is setting up Thanos, and the 4th one is the final fight against him. And probably his Black Order, to replace the faceless army, and don't have all of the MCU characters go against him at the same time.

>>87852829
Hate to break it to you champ, but Warlock's cocoon was literally an accident. They admitted they just pulled it from the comics because it looked cool to have in the collection and didnt realize what it was until after. But hey its not like these things are set in stone so they may just roll with it

>>87852977
Source

>>87852988
From Gunn himself
>"They asked me what I wanted in The Collector's scene, I flipped through a Marvel anthology book and picked out a bunch of cool things."

>>87853069
That's not a source faggot, give us a link or an actual source like who did the fucking interview and when.

>>87852977
>practically THE most important character, besides Thanos himself, from the arc they've been hyping up as an adapatation
>thinking he's not actually going to be part of it

>>87853069
That only talks about Cosmo and the dark elf, nowhere does it say that the Cocoon wasn't on purpose.

>>87843158
In the same way Batman is pretty worthless without his utility belt.

>>87853122
http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Why-Guardians-Galaxy-References-Adam-Warlock-What-It-Means-68207.html

"Yeah, there’s a cocoon that’s exactly like Adam Warlock’s. I wasn’t really thinking that much when I put that in. That was my idea to put that in there. They’re like, ‘What should we put in?" So I went in the Marvel handbook and like just picked cool things that looked neat to put into the boxes. It looked like Adam’s Warlock cocoon, so now everyone thinks he’s out of there and you know… I don’t know."

>>87843158
Pretty much all the "fighting" that Strange does in the movie is him casting spells on his own.

>>87853199
On the one hand, that's kind of a bummer. On the other, he might've just said that to throw people off. And if he didn't, well, he saved some time for the Russos, since they're likely to introduce him, even if he doesn't play exactly the same role, just because he was important to the story. Same way Civil War was used to introduce Spidey.

>>87853122
It's a little late to introduce Adam Warlock, though.

Vision could be slotted into his role easily enough. The MCU version of Vision is quite similar to him.

>>87853432
>It's a little late to introduce Adam Warlock, though.
Are you high? Most people didn't even know who Adam Warlock was until the Infinity Gauntlet story line and we've still got several movies before they even get to the Gauntlet.

>>87853465
I think there's only two, but it could still work.

>show him as a cameo or a post-credit scene in Thor 3 or GoTG V2
>first Infinity movie rolls in
>besides showing Thanos's origin, introduce Adam as some kind of rival that's always been there, while trying to keep the lab origin in some way
>keep him like Banner, a character that kinda gets fleshed in crossover movies, but doesn't have his own one

It's not that hard.

>>87853432
If the MCU has taught us anything, it's that they can introduce characters who were previously literally who-tier with relatively little lead-in or explanation and audiences will happily eat it up.

>>87853550
Thor 3 could have someone having a premonition about "Him" and GotG V2 could have a credits scene where they find his new cocoon or something and then he hatches in the first Gauntlet movie.
There are lots of ways it could work. Its really just a lot of speculation at this point.

>>87853595
I like it, I absolutely love it when b-list heroes go mainstream, they finally get the respect they deserve

>>87853550
Four.
GotG, Spiderman, Thor, BP.
But they are for sure not going to introduce in GotG and Spider-Man.
So that leaves Thor and BP.

>>87853595
Good. I never really cared for F4 or X-Men very much honestly.

Apparently according to casting calls, Magus will be in Infinity War. So that means Adam Warlock is all but confirmed to show at some point then or before. I'd wager he doesn't make an appearance until a post-credit somewhere or IW itself.