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Why can't they just say they don't want white people

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Why can't they just say they don't want white people reading them anymore?
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>>87823814
>DUDE WEED LMAO
Kill yourself, Zimbabwe
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why are you so triggered by a writer/artist team? also it's fine if you don't wanna read it. why bitch
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>>87823814
Because the smart white people have already stopped and now they just want to milk the morons left behind.
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>>87823814
>of color
As in... colored?
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>>87823814
Does "lit" still mean "really high"?
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>>87823814
Why would they tell a lie like that?
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>>87823814

Why can't a white person read this? What would go wrong? Would their eyeballs burn from looking at it? What did you mean by that? Are you saying white people would only buy it if a white person wrote it? What did you mean by that?
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>>87823874
I'm suddenly reminded that they are selling gold and diamond safety pins to shill to libs. It's exquisite because they don't realize how blatantly they're getting played.
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>>87823916
No it is basically the 10's bodacious.
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>>87823814
>It's lit!
translator please

>>87823884
get outta here, Bendis
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>not knowing what it's lit means

jesus christ /co/ are you all old af or just incredibly lame
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>>87823916
No.
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>>87823916

yes but it also means "good"

like if the party was lit, then it was a good party, etc
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>>87823940
>dude, check out bodacious babe
>she thicc, senpai!
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ITS FUCKING LIT

LETS GET IT!!!!!!!!
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So how many issues till Magical Space Lesbian from Magical Space is cancelled and the writer blames not being able to write comics because she's a novelist.
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>>87824013
Also,

>14,000 sales by issue 4
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america literally who-vez
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>>87823990
I know what /lit/ means, it's that board where they show girls their piss bottle collections.
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>>87823814

Is this supposed to be an advertisement for the comic?

'Oh wow, a random minority is writing a comic about a latina girl? Isn't that so exciting?'

Uh, no. That tells me NOTHING about the writer's credentials. Jesus christ, why would someone be interested in the writer's skin color, and who they'd want to fuck? How is that supposed to entice ANYONE but SJWs to read this shit?

And it's not even like SJWs are gonna read it anyway. Why do people overestimate the sheer number of these chuckle fucks? They're probably only like 0.1% of the total population in America. They just little dogs that bark the loudest.
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>>87824021
How long did Mockingbird last? cut that number in half
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>>87824021

Why does everyone always expect these things to run for 600 issues?
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>>87824046

Read a comic book sometime
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>>87823855
Instead of going off the author's previous works and credentials, i.e. their merits, the announcement just broadcast the author's race and orientation.
That's classic virtue signaling designed to sucker in libtards who also wish to virtue signal.
In other words it's shit and divisive marketing to point out a person's identity politics rather than their previous work in the profession and is a shining example of why the 1st world is in its current social identity crisis.

>inb4 racist
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>>87824055

pretty sure it's actually the announcement of the creative team. you click the link for more info
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Remember when people got hired based off credentials?

Jesus christ no wonder Marvel's comics are tanking.
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Is this comic named after the deceased dictator of socialist hellhole Venezuela? Before it collapsed Lefties loved to pretend it was destined for failure.
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>>87823814
>It's lit
This triggers me far more than the rest of the statement.
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>>87824108

you read the full article it talks about how she's a YA writer and Marvel reached out to her because she caught their eye. you're bitching about the headline.
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>>87823814
What, white people can't read books by writers that aren't white?
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>>87824091
>don't recognize one meme character
>durr u dun read comics xD
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>>87823814
>lit
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>why do minorities only relate to minority characters?!
>Marvel is hiring minority writers to write minority characters, this obviously means they don't want white people to read their comics
How on earth did white guys end up with a bigger persecution complex than any minority?
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wait its a woman? I thought it was a 'boi'
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>>87824108
>US
>First world
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>>87823928
>Gold and diamond safety pins
Why do you need a 200 dollar safety pin?
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>>87823990
>22 is old now.
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>>87823814
Does it mean greenlit or LMAO lit?
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>>87823814
>white people refuse to read anything that doesn't star white people exclusively or is written by white people exclusively
It's this mentality that's led us into this us vs. them clusterfuck we find ourselves in with /pol/ vs tumblr and everyone that isn't a fucking retard stuck in the middle getting shit on by both ends.

If you only care about comics starring and/or created by people of the same race/sex as you then you're a racist/sexist. This goes for both the SJWs and anti-SJWs.
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>>87824055
Even the msm is realizing identity politics is shit and is starting to accept that its recent resurgence helped create Trump and is a major reason Hillary lost.

Fringe minority issues do not appeal to the majority, just as products marketed at a fringe minority don't sell to the majority. Tick tock, SJWs.
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>>87824141
>implying anybody reads past the headline
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>>87824141
The headline is designed to catch people's eye. It's the first thing a person reads. And what does her race or gender have to do with her ability to write?
Nothing. It's basically bait.
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>>87824150
>meme character
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How about reading some William Gibson or Phillip K Dick in the meantime anons?
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>>87824184

i said OR lame
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>>87824182
It's the symbol of their safe place against the "coming storm" I shit you not.
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>"lol SJWs are so easily offended."
>brown/gay/trans people: *exist*
>"REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
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>>87824182
So you can brag both how rich you are and how you have all the right opinions.
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>>87824214

>designed to catch people's eye
>It's basically bait

so it's a good headline then?
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>>87823814
>go to twitter called 'Geeks of Color'
>get mad you find the type tweets you would find on a twitter called 'Geeks of Color'
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>>87824142
Not without profusely apologizing or pre-emptively stating that they've got a lot to learn about whatever minority is being plugged in the book. Plus, they've got to bang out 20 hot takes for every speech bubble or Twitter-worthy panel, and that barely qualifies as reading the damn book.
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>>87824182
To further the hilarity when it becomes more widely known that /pol/ pushed the safety pin trend onto brexit boohooers (and, by coincidence later on, anti-Trumps) just to squeeze in a gay sex signaler and fuck with numales.
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>>87823814
no thanks marvel I'll be reading the real Miss America.
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>>87824218
>It's /lit/!
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>>87824240
I never said it wasn't. Doesn't mean it's not a awful way to draw someone into a comic. Everyone hates clickbait.
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>>87824231
>>87824236

there's a bunch of reasons the idea is dumb but going out and buying a fancy pin for it is the most insane thing.

i'm sjw as fuck
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>>87824214
And /co/ took it, like every damn time.
>but we're saying bad things
Still better than silence, which would likely be the case for a book about fucking America Chavez otherwise.
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>>87824216
Well you can't get more special snowflake than Space Lesbian from Between Space Lesbian Utopia.
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>>87824250
"QuirkyRican" should be the first and last sign that readers should close the tab.
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>>87823990
Real people don't care about nigger lingo.
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>>87823814
>All white people are bigoted pussies

Not all white people, OP.
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>>87824294
>landslide
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>>87824250
>TFW I'm hispanic and I still don't get how anyone can unironically use "Of Color"
How can you just like being lumped into one group of non-white when you scream about other south american countries? Most fucking people their own color complain about other nationalities why are we pretending otherwise?
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>>87824281

lotta people online have been bitching for an America Chavez book

>>87824294

>landslide
>lost the popular vote
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>>87824214
>t's basically bait.
It's literally bait and the fact that it was enough to cause OP to get triggered and start a thread on /co/ for the sole purpose of bitching about it only proves that it's incredibly effective bait.

They're not going to stop doing this as long as you keep falling for it.

It's like with Marvel. Brevoort comes out and says that Marvel's strategy is to piss off its readership because pissing them off gets them talking and that always leads to higher sales for them. Now after Brevoort makes this statement, people take it and proceed to start getting super fucking angry about it and won't stop talking about it how angry they are that Marvel would try to profit off their anger.

A man comes up to you and says "the angrier you are, the more money I make, so here's something that'll make you angry." and instead of going "oh, then I just won't get angry so you no longer have incentive to pull this shit" you go "OMG I'M SO ANGRY, GUYS AREN'T YOU ANGRY TO? REEEEEEEEEEEEE~" and they just get to just sit back and laugh while counting the cash.
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>>87824201
Why is it the responsibility of white people to read minority comics? Isn't the entire reason for SJWs demanding minority characters that minority readers need stuff to read? If minorities can't read white books, why should whites read minority books?
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>ITS LIT BRUH

>DUDE 420 LMMFAO

>SWAG SWAG SHAWTY BAE SMDH
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>>87824310
Cause the people who run that twitter are white as elephant tusks.
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>>87823814
Cry more faggot.
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>>87823990
This thread was made by a guy who got butt hurt that a comic isn't being written by a white male. Does that answer your question
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>>87824201
idk seeing how /co/ seems fine with Christopher Priest, Dwayne McDuffie, and James Tucker just to name a few.
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>>87823916
As a parent you must be aware of the lingo kids are using these days on the cyber-web such as:

Smash - I would have sex with you -- A girl might post a provocative picture and a boy might write "smash.”

Cook session - When one or several teens gang up on another kid on social media

DESU - To be honest -- A teen might post a picture of himself or herself and ask for a DESU, usually looking for positive responses.

OOMF - One of my followers -- A secretive way to talk about one of their followers without saying their name, such as "OOMF was so hot today."

BAE - Baby -- affectionate term for someone's girlfriend, boyfriend etc.

WCW - Woman Crush Wednesday -- A girl will post a picture of another girl she thinks is pretty, while guys will post pictures of girls they think are hot.

MCM - Man Crush Monday -- Similar to Woman Crush Wednesday, but featuring pictures of men

FML - F*** my life

AF - As f*** -- A teen might tweet "mad af" or "you seem chill af."

LMAO - Laughing my rear end off
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>>87824311
>3 gorillion America Chavez's voted for Hillary
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>>87824310
Because the term serves an us vs them mentality that some people like.
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I don't mind them wanting writers with different backgrounds working them, but is someone like Gabby Rivera really the best they could find? They're not going to get someone like Ta-Nehisi Coates every time, but Rivera's a literal nobody.

But I'm sure when it bombs it'll some how be the fault of white men
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>>87824201
Who is refusing to read anything?
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>>87824277
>Doesn't mean it's not a awful way to draw someone into a comic
Anon, the people who wrote this article and made this tweet are not affiliated with Marvel. They're not trying to advertise the comic, they're trying to get people to read their article.

They don't give a FUCK if the comic sells well or not. It could get cancelled at 1 for all they care. All they care about is whether or not people see that headline and it gets their attention enough to click on it and clearly it worked given the fact that one tweet was enough to trigger a thread full of people.
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>>87824311
>popular vote maymay
subtract illegals and repeat voters in states not requiring ID's, or kysf.
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>>87824363
>A teen might post a picture of himself or herself and ask for a DESU, usually looking for positive responses
I love the wordfilter. More words need to be added.
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>>87824402

hey if it's true than trump should be pushing to audit the vote right
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>>87824311
>lost the meaningless muh feels vote

Fixed that dere
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>>87824310
Because of identity politics. The thing liberals kept using against whites. Now Trump found out he can use identity politics to unify whites. And democrats are freaking out.
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>>87824375
refusing to read something based on race and gender sounds like a women/nigger thing to do actually
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>>87824322
Seriously. The only reason this works is because SJWs feel like they are fighting against someone. There's no virtue signaling where there's no vice.
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>>87824330
>Why is it the responsibility of white people to read minority comics?
It isn't and I never said it was. If you don't want to read a comic then don't read it, this goes for everyone of every race/sex. But if the ONLY reason you're not reading it is because of the race/sex of the protagonist or creative team then you're a racist/sexist, this goes for everyone of every race/sex.
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>>87824410
He could, but why bother? He's busy building an empire now.

It's not like they'll have those illegals to vote next time.
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>>87824330
Not what anon implied, I hope you're being wilfully obtuse.
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>>87824357
>/co/mblr likes niggers
No surprise there.
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>>87824322
If ihs quote was a capped post stickied to the top of /co/ I doubt these threads would be as popular.
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>>87824322
It's like if the Hulk's strength was derived from making others angry rather than getting angry himself.

>>87824394
Hopefully people here know that clicking on it gives them money and are just venting in this thread rather than giving them views.
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>>87824305
electoral college landslide, bro
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I wish white 20-something bloggers would wait until everyone else is done with a phrase or fad before they fuck it all to hell and back with their grubby, mayo-drenched fingers. The Kodak Bop is tired as hell right now, why don't the fuckers appropriate that and leave the good shit alone?
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>a queer woman of color
Okay but is she a good writer?
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Marvel truly is the most progressive publisher! DC would never do such a thing.
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>>87824322
how many comics does marvel sell/how much money do they make, by me participating in a thread?

Hint: it's zero (0).
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>>87824410
Who cares? He won anyway, as he should have

Sorry a bunch of criminals' votes didnt matter as much as they should have, better luck in 2024
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>>87824475
Do they still get money if you have adblock?
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>>87824372
I mean... Coates is having a bad experience in his try because of (((white))) men. Namely Benis.
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>>87823814
But this shit is like catnip to to teenage white girls.
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>>87824475
>random article from a literally who that no one on /co/ would have ever knew existed unless OP made this thread
>w-we're just venting because we all got so angry after we all saw this headline
No. I can guaran-fucking-tee that the existence of this thread has gotten this article more attention and more clicks than if OP had just let well enough alone and not actively gone out of his way to find things to get angry about so he could share those things he gets angry about with other people who will just get angry over it. You're actively HELPING the enemy with threads like this.
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>>87823990
How about civilised?
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>>87824562
>implying they buy comics
the only industry they contribute to is social media clickbait websites.
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>>87824531
>>87824455

because otherwise people like me are gonna remind you for the next 4 years you're in the minority and most people hate the president.
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>>87824518
Well I didn't know about it before this thread. So I might pick up a copy.
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>>87824518
>Hint: it's zero (0).
By participating in the thread, you're keeping it bumped (assuming you're not saging every post). By keeping it bumped, you're helping Marvel advertise the book and helping this literally who SJW advertise their site and their article. If they get even ONE sale or ONE click thanks to that, that's one sale or one click that you helped them get.
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>>87824562
supposedly
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>>87823814
lit means almost dead in Overwatch
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>>87824597
>because otherwise people like me are gonna sperg out and act like colossal hypocrites, doing the exact same shit we were going to get on your case for
FTFY
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>>87824475
That doesn't matter, the publicity matters more than the microcents from ad revenue.
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>>87824279
Buy and wear a pin please. There's so many reasons why I want you to.
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>>87824597
Again, you're not the majority unless you count criminals. Especially after the deportation shoah begins, you'll never get those numbers again. You lost the house, senate, all of it. Take a look at your lefty supreme court members and their ages. It is over. The Trumpreich has begun.
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>>87824562
If cats tweeted and made video blogs about catnip and cosplayed as bags of catnip but never actually bought any catnip... yes.
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>>87824469
Ah, should've know. They were mostly known for their DC work
>>87824511
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>>87824623
Anon, people are STILL bitching about Bush losing the popular vote but still getting elected and that was 16 years ago.
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>>87824623

i didn't make fun of trump people saying they were gonna protest bc they were gonna protest. i was making fun of them for being fat and too lazy to actually get off the couch and protest instead of posting pepes
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>>87824597
Feel free to cry all you want
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>>87824654

lol let me know how you're feeling in 2018.

assuming we aren't living in the nuclear fallout land
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>>87824232
>conflating offence and disgust
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>>87824641
>trying to get anon fucked in the ass with a condom
that's just mean
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>>87824593
If it's not them then who the fuck keeps buying Whor?
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>>87824664

Priest was/is best known for his Black Panther
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>>87823814

>Still reading Marvel
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>>87824687
>the candidate wanting war with russia was a safer bet
top kek, you funny guy. you get gassed last.
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>>87824687
>assuming we aren't living in the nuclear fallout land
why would we? Hillary lost.
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>>87824232
/co/mblr please go
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>>87823884
Person of color is no different from colored person which was considered racist as fuck.
So idk why SJWs use that term.
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>>87824641

i actually just have some black panther pins, BLM, rainbow flag, why the fuck use code.
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>>87824472
He made that comment in 2009. That screencap gets posted on /co/ at least once every couple days since then. 7 years of almost daily posts and hundreds of threads about it, and it hasn't done jackshit.
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What if you're non-white and still hate Marvel?
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>>87824444
Fantastic Quads confirm.
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>>87824597
And I suppose everyone else will remind you that their candidate still won the election. You sure showed them.
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>>87823814
So basically Marvel instead of telling us what the writer has writen so fan during the career, if has some good credentials, they said only that the writer is"a queer woman of color", so that's enough to make the book awesome... Marvel you really deserve to burn. A good writer should be the first thing to look upon. What matter the race or the sexual perefences, when someone can't write a damn. Personally as long as a writer is a good, i don't care about the gender, the race or the sexuality. Can someone be a good writer, that's what matter. Not stupid gimmicks and cliche like these.
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>>87824728
>which was considered racist as fuck.
No it wasn't.
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>>87824728
Because they are racist as fuck.
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>>87824746

yeah but trump is a man baby who gets super triggered by criticism (some of his supporters too) so it's fun to keep bringing up that he lost the popular vote.
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>>87824730
Yeah this. Why beat around the bush? We're the majority, so lets be proud of our affiliations.
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>>87824708
>>87824713
I still don't get where that meme came from. NATO intervened in Syria years before Russia did, if anyone is being a warbaiting ass it's Putin.
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>>87823884
>>87824728
>/co/ related
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>>87824743
clearly that's internalized racism

...or some shit, idk if that's what they call it.
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>>87824749

this isn't marvel, it's a news site reporting on their hire. Marvel reached out to this writer i assume she's good enough to get their attention
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>>87824728
because SJWs have gone full circle
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>>87824511
DC didn't go on the view to promote their characters to people that don't read comics.
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>>87824766
>trump is a man baby who gets super triggered by criticism
then why he is not the candidate of tumblr and /co/?
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>>87824743
You have even better taste than normal. Not only are you sick of the bullshit but you're also aware of it while being directly pandered to.
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>>87824770
your candidate has a shitload of clips saying she'd go to war with Iran and Russia over petty shit or suspected cyber intrusions. You're fucking delusional and I love it.
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>>87824768
hahahaha
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>>87823928
Ah yes, all the people the picked a diaper pin as a symbol to stand against Trump.
Pretty smart, considering just how many college students soiled them self since the election.
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>>87824511

>B..buh DC

Pathetic
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>>87824749
Marvel didn't write that article.
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>>87823990
I actually did not know what that meant until a short while ago and I'm 23 years old.
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>>87823814
>"It's lit"
I'm incredibly disgusted, why would you use those words?
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>>87824509
Who cares. She's a "queer woman of color" so that means that all SJWs will treat her as one of the best writers in the industry that everyone has to support no matter what, and /co/ will treat her as the single worst thing to ever happen in the history of comics and may very well be responsible for the death of the industry for no other reason than her writing a C-lister's stealth mini.

Her actually quality as a writer largely doesn't matter since most of the people that bitch/cheer for this shit don't actually read comics and just want an excuse to bitch/show how progressive they are.
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>>87823814
I'll read it if it's good. I don't care about anything else.
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>>87824560
Coates looks like he wants to kill himself in that photo with Bendis.

I want DC to offer him a book with a non-black lead like they did with Priest.
Honestly, Coates and Priest on Batman and Superman would be great, maybe get Phil Jimenez on art
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>>87823814
Because they don't want to push away white people. They want the largest audience possible, which means they want to appeal to EVERYONE.

Does the idea of a black chick writing a comic really offend you that much?
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>>87824808
>your candidate
The election is over anon.
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>>87824832
Appealing to trendy youths in their late teens/early 20s
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>>87824791
If that's the case it's ok. But the site that pubblished the announcement sucks, if they chose the writer's private life's data for promote the book, and the writer herself.
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>>87824815
>support trump
>wear safety pin
>I am ze spy.jpg
>get inside scoop on who to report to be deported
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>>87824867
>Does the idea of a black chick writing a comic really offend you that much?
That you can't see that black chicks being allowed to write comics is going to lead to the downfall of western-civilization only proves that this place is /co/mblr.
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>>87824858

coates is a pretty big marvel zombie iirc

also Priest was offered Jason Rusch Firestorm at first
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>>87824511
But a lot of that was actually good bud didn't sell. Marlel push there hip, new and diverse characters for 6 months and give up when sales go to shit, then bring them back with an all new #1 when they relaunch again
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>>87824876
That site isn't trying to promote the book. They're trying to bait people into clicking on the article.
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>>87824833
>just want an excuse to bitch/show how progressive they are
Or how /pol/ they are, of course.
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>>87824654
NIgga they got the majority vote. They're the majority.

And Trump ain't deporting anyone that can vote. He's already going back on half his campaign claims after an hour in a room with Obama, he's too big a pussy to ever touch legal US citizens.

Literally BLACKED into submission.
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>>87823814

God I can't believe they're letting this happen, it's 2016, people! Trump is the president! I'm so offended I'm gonna vlog about it, please remember to like and subscribe and donate to my patreon.
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>>87824808
I'm not American nor pro Hillary, just pointing out facts.
>petty shit
Controlling the key region for hydrocarbons isn't really that petty, and everyone who isn't retarded knows that's what's at stake here.

And hasn't Trump said he wanted war on Iran too?
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>>87824924
hahaha whatever you say shill
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>>87824924

It's gonna be like that time he went to Mexico and the President told him fuck no they're not paying for a wall and Trump just sat their like a child being disciplined.
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>>87824875
That's my demographic, do they not realise that people like me don't use those words? Then again all they need is that huge #1 bonus and anything from there is meaningless until the next #1
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>>87824867
>they don't want to push away white people
too bad the left as a whole is putting off a white-genocide vibe right now, so aligning yourself with it reminds people of that.

>Lena Dunham speaks at DNC
>proceeds to call for extinction of white men on facebook
"""diversity""" only means removing whites.
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>>87824958

>what's at stake here

Trump doesn't believe in climate change
Hillary does.
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>>87824924
>implying all the votes were from citizens
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>>87824924
>He's already going back on half his campaign claims after an hour in a room with Obama, he's too big a pussy to ever touch legal US citizens.

I remember when the big defense mechanism was "well just watch, I bet he's actually an ultra-liberal in disguise, and will start being on my side after he gets done taking advantage of those stupid republicans! its 2016!!"

just the latest iteration of bernie math. Keep the tears flowing
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>>87824962

I'm in that demographic and do use those terms. Wild!
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>>87824410
you realise Hillary had teams and teams of lawyers set up to do just that and then pulled out and hasnt had any investigation brought up? Why? Because it would expose voter fraud for HER and she would lose "muh popular vote" meme too
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>>87824924
Dude have you seen his cabinet.

Like yeah I don't think Trump is hitler but he is surrounding himself with bad fucking people.
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>>87823855
It's not so much about being triggered by it but rather the sensible person would look at this and see there using PC culture to get people to buy their shit. Why else would they just flaunt trivial little facts like that and make them feel like it's a big deal.
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>>87824924
name the major things he's backed off on.

hard mode: only use quotes he actually said
dante must die mode: no huffing paint post or other shit tier blog sites
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>>87824974
>my bought candidate was totally going to revolt against her benefactors and fix the environment!
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>>87824974
So then what's the problem? Global Warming was a meme created by the leftists to push unfair sanctions on innocent all-American captains of industry. It's literally been proven time and again to be a hoax but the liberals won't shut up about it because they've already wasted too much of our tax payer money on the scam.

Thank God we've got Trump to finally set the record straight and remove all these bullshit sanctions.
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>>87824964
>too bad the left as a whole

Only in your escapist /pol/ack fantasies.

Whenever anyone asks for proof of this shit, all you people can offer is green party shitters and misquotes. Nobody has listened to the green party of anywhere in decades, the average lefty probably doesn't realize they even exist anymore.

>>87824960
That was fucking hilarious.

I don't know why anyone expected Shillary or Dump to keep any of their promises. They're both utterly mercenary.

>>87824976
Tighten that tinfoil hat bucko.

The closest thing to proof of this we've gotten is one random guy going "I think these votes are rigged."
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>>87825027
You sound triggered as fuck.
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>>87824974
None of what I said had anything to do with climate change though, I'm talking about control of the supply and especially distribution of hydrocarbons.
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>>87824728
>no different
uh.. there are TWO LETTERS that are different plus the order is also different
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>>87825033
...He's already reversed his position on Obamacare.
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>>87825057
You want triggered, look at this /co/mblr shill over here:
>>87825045
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>>87824832
'cause it's woke af
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>>87824960
>and Trump just sat their like a child being disciplined.
Are we still talking about the president whose government almost collapsed after Trump's visit, and whose approval rating is now lower than Bush's?
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>>87825045
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAGhyFHnuv8

>only in your /pol/ack fantasies
nice try fucker, here's the motherfucking VP.
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>>87825079
He's also reversed his position on martians!!

Source: Same as yours
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>>87825042
let just ignore that Exxon and other oil companies knew the effect that gas would have on the atmosphere. And spent millions of dollars for people to shill for them that global warming was a hoax.
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>>87825082
Nah mate you seem pretty pissed off.
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>>87824991
But do you read comics? You're on /co/ so by the law of averages I'd say no
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>>87825082
>one person is laughing at the state of American politics
>the other is having a fit about a black woman writing a book

Yeah, that lefty is sooo much more triggered.
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>>87825079
prove it faggot
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>>87823940
That word needs to come back, it was gnarly to the max
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>>87824964
>rich whites are constantly signaling, getting into fad protests and enabling the worst urges of every other group in the States
>poor whites are willingly OD'ing or blowing their brains out
>whoever's left over can't be bothered to do anything about either set because they're either too afraid of being called racist, or they think they can move up in class by being "woke" enough

Maybe the whole race needs to be allowed to self-destruct, 先輩
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>>87825122

sadly i'm one of the few comics readers in the wilderness here.
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>>87825033
Reversed "removing" Obamacare to "removing parts of it and fixing it up"
The wall became a "virtual wall" of stuff like funding holds, then he said "Oh, there'll be some fence too"
The part on his website about removing muslims from the country on hiw website has been removed.
I'm not hating the guy, but it's starting to feel like a lot of the shit he said in his campaign was "What the people want to hear/silent majority" type stuff more than anything.
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>>87825027
Marvel didn't write that headline you baited faggot.
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>>87825104
Oh look, a misquote.

That quote in the video title isn't even what he says. He says that a lower than 50% fully white population is inevitable and nothing to be afraid of. He never says white people vanishing is good, he says a white minority shouldn't scare people.

And why the fuck should it? All those non-whites are going to be fourth or fifth generation Americans with American values. It literally doesn't matter.
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>>87825160

Ranch Pubis has been flip flopping on that registry thing all day.
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>>87824511
The difference is that DC don't sell their comics based on progressive! values.

The gender, skin color and sexual orientation of a writer shouldn't fucking matter. Nobody but /pol/ wants comics written by and featuring solely white males, the point is that having a comic written by a mixed-race tranny doesn't make it better.
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>>87825171
He said it was a good thing. Don't pretend he didn't.

>>87825160
Literally none of that is true so far.
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>>87825227
He said that the fact that we bring people into the US is a good thing. It's one of our strengths.

He never says that white people going away is a good thing. Ever. You're literally just making shit up to suit your narrative.
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>>87824021
6
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>>87825104
WEW LAD. I'm surprised I hadn't seen this earlier. To think you guys give Sweden shit. Get ready for hard times, faggots.
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>>87825261
The really funny thing about this is, even in that proposed situation, whites would still be the largest demographic.

Tinfoils don't understand this however.

'Less than 50%' does not mean a tiny, powerless minority.
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>>87825227
>Obamacare
http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-willing-to-keep-parts-of-health-law-1478895339

>Fencing and virtual wall
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2016/11/13/donald-trump-says-his-wall-with-mexico-could-be-a-fence-for-certain-areas/
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>>87823981
Yeah. Ignoring it only makes it stronger; you have to completely stamp it out like a fire or a rebellion.
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>>87825227
The bit about Obamacare is definitely true. One second he was all about repealing the whole thing, and then one conversation with Obama later and suddenly he's advocating for keeping around "the good parts".
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>>87823981
Dude, it's just a writer and an artist for a comic.

Jesus Christ, why do we even CARE what gender or race these people are?
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>>87823916
It means you've been shot and have low HP. As in "light them up." You tell your team-mates "he's lit for 70" to let them know that they're low."
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>>87825224
What we should be really talking about is how Marvel's setting up another non-comic writer for failure. Bet you a dollar her editor does not give her a single clue on how a comic book's pacing and narrative has to differ from a novel because its 20 pages a month instead of 200 pages at once.
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>>87825413
That doesn't sound that different from the "repeal and replace" slogan the Republicans were into a while back.
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>>87825430

i think it's Wil Moss editing

so /co/ will end up hating it
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>>87825413
Yeah because hospitals around the country were like, "Um we JUST finished upgrading to this, it will cost THIS much to undo that, we literally don't know how we'll do it." which I'll bet his stormfront buddies neglected to tell him.
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>>87823814
When did "queer" become an okay thing to call someone?
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>>87824363
The world can't burn soon enough
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>>87823814
Which part of that sentence guarantees that the comic will be in any way good?
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>>87825476

>edits Squirrel Girl and Inhumans
>edits Vision, Black Panther, and Thor

nvm it might be a coin flip
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>>87825458
Repeal and replace means "Take it all out and put something else in."
Repeal and replace would be "Take out Obamacare, put in Trumpcare"
What he's on now is more "Turn Obamacare into ObamaTrumpcare"
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>>87825476
All of Marvel's editorial right now's a fucking joke. Like look at Mockingbird-the writing was bad but the real problem, the real fucking problem is that the woman was trying to write a thriller novel at 20 pages a month and then shocked when people did not want to wait a fucking year for her first chapter to be finished.

Even Coates's Black Panther, which is not as horrible as some of the other non-industry guys Marvel's brought in, is more often than not DULL because it reads like an essay instead of an adventure story. A good editor would work with these writers to hone their skills towards the new medium they're working in instead of letting them flounder on the hook until they fail.
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>>87825458
He went from an absolute to a very heavy compromise. It's absolutely different.

From how he acts around Obama, I'm under the impression that Obama intimidates him. But that's just a personal impression, not a fact.
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>>87825483
Gays can call each other queer without getting in trouble, just like blacks can call each other "nigga"
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>>87825483
When they needed a word for all those good soldiers that really, really, really don't want to be straight.

Seriously there's a wheel I'd post it but I'm vaguely worried about a politics ban, but even just being in a relationship without being married is technically queer in some circles.
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Honestly I want white people to die already so I can stop hearing baby cries everytime a non-white person does something.
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>>87825523

i'm telling you Trump would push single payer socialist as fuck full medical care if you just called it TrumpCare.

>>87825524

i remembering mockingbird warning you up front about that. i waited and enjoyed it. Panther I agree at the start but think it's found it's groove now.
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>>87825430
Whatever @QuirkyRican's real name is, she's going to be the next Chelsea Cain.

Although I'll give the benefit of the doubt that she won't do something as grotesquely stupid as Mockingbird's rape retcon that leads to her crying and quitting over angry fans.
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>>87825483
when it stopped meaning anything
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>>87823814
>a person gender and sexual orientation is more important than their name

you can't write this shit any more.
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>>87825154
You read comics and use the word "lit" unironically, you're a rare one
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Are you the same person that's made 4 threads about this OP?
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>>87825554
right back at ya, spook
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>>87825569
For those that didn't read about her magnificent ideas: http://www.cbr.com/marvel-announces-creative-team-for-america-chavez-series/
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>>87824232
>trans
>people
pick one, faggot.
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>>87824232
trans people don't exist. there exist some humans, mostly men, who pretend to be other genders. a man pretending to be a woman is no more a "transwoman" than a kid pretending to be batman is a transbatman.
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>>87825569
She's already taking a proudly blue collar hero, the ONE thing that makes America Chavez different tonally from other marvel girls, and sending her to college.

So yeah.
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>>87825750
>Misheroing me

Fuck you shitlord. I'll have you know I'm a beautiful proud Batman.
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>>87825554
This but with niggers instead
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>>87825750
>transbatman
good job, anon, you gave tumblr another gender to identify with
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>>87825791
that would actually make more sense than this tranny shit. i can understand wanting to be batman. i can't understand wanting to be a deformed man wearing a dress.
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>>87825163
Hard to beleive though that Marvel "didn't know nothing" or that it wasn't at all their idea or at least their intention. Especially if we consider Marvel's current promoting politics.
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>>87825349

It does when the other >50% all team up, which is the case in US politics. Plus once upon a time South Africa was 50% white, it's not like there's a 40% white floor in US demographics, it will keep going down as long as people are let in the insane numbers they are which will be always so Democrats can have a super majority in everything
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>>87825818
>>87825750
>>87825791

I'm Trans-Former
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>>87825788
whoops guess I gave her too much credit

must've been too much trouble to read a damn comic with Chavez in it
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>>87825850
>Trans-Former

Thanks furman
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>>87825415
>Dude, it's just a writer and an artist for a comic.
>Dude, it's just a video game
>Dude, it's just a TV show
>Dude, it's just a movie
This is the type of attitude that lends them validity. Give them an inch, they take everything you own.
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>>87825873

she mentions reading Young Avengers
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>>87825881
you deserve to have your things taken

maybe then you will learn how those without your privilege feel
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>>87825830
Sure but pretending they're only pushing that aspect when official announcements don't even mention it is retarded.
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>>87825890
but not ultimates which is really kind of important.

America needs a humbling action right now, she's smug as fuck and it makes her unlikable. She needs a villain to fuck her life up in the worst way and reconnect with that punky attitude that was attractive in the beginning without the sheer hubris of "time to join a team just to beat it up because ???".

Also hopefully this writer remembers she has a girlfriend instead of going after that Kate thing they keep hinting at because god FORBID a lesbian want a girl and that not be reciprocated, ever, forever in fiction.
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>>87825929
>he disagrees with me
>he must be a straight white male from hell!
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>>87825114
>this is what shillaryfags actually believe
wew
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>>87825360
>WSJ
How about a source that isn't blatantly pushing a leftist agenda?
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>>87825881

This. All of the "it's just some dumb nerd shit lol who cares?" arguments are what led to where we are now: video games being barred from release for fear or SJW REEEEEing, Marvel erasing their entire cast of characters for the Minoriteam, franchises like Ghostbusters, Star Wars, and Rocketeer being replaced with female-centric "modern" versions...

These people cannot and will not coexist with us. We have to take their own argument and turn it against them - tell them "it's not for you!" and kick them the fuck out.
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>>87823928
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>>87825929
>all unprivileged people agree with me
This is why you lost the election.
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>>87823814
why are people so proud of their gender, ethnicity, or sexual orientation in today's age?

why can't we go back to liking accepting one another based on our actions, our work ethic, and our passions rather than these meaningless labels?

I don't give two shits if a queer woman of color or anything is writing something, I care if their work is good
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>>87826023
You're only doing their work by confirming their misconceptions.
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>>87826060
for the discerning manbaby
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>>87826079
>why can't we go back to liking accepting one another based on our actions, our work ethic, and our passions rather than these meaningless labels?

This has literally never been a thing
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>>87826079
because we were forcefed stories about civil rights heroes growing up and how the only significant thing about them was their minority status, so that's the only understanding of heroics we have.
>>87826077
by a pretty tiny percentage. nobody can really brag about that
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>>87824974
Hillary can say she believes in whatever she wants, but when she's receiving millions in campaign donations from literal fucking oil Tycoons, I'm pretty sure that means she's going to be on their side once environmental regulations start getting talked about. I mean, Trump talks out his ass too, but at least he acknowledged that this kind of funding is bullshit and put up his own money instead.
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I'm white and I don't care who is is writing the media I consume as long as it's interesting. However, however this looks like dogshit.
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Honestly from the interviews with the author I've read this sounds like it'll be fine. Or at least not a soapbox platform like Champions
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>>87823814
And am i supposed to care that X writer is Y and Z because?
Remember when the merit was on your work and not what you called yourself
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>>87826092
Man this was not a thing in the 90s, you had all sorts of people in comics and other nerd hobbies and most tension was about what dragonball character you liked.

At some point we started listening to the people who wanted us to hate each other, I guess.
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>>87825160
Give an actual source. HuffPo and NYtimes aren't gonna be accepted. Give an actual source. Don't bullshit and say google. Give me your fucking source.
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>>87826077
we lost the election because of racism, sexism, xenophobia, transphobia, Islamophobia, homophobia and all around bigotry brought about by the white male majority

a majority which will thankfully be gone before the next election
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>>87825360
>Blog

How 'bout you go suck a dick.
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>>87826248
hehehehe
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>>87826019
>Healthcare
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/12/business/insurers-unprepared-for-obamacare-repeal.html?_r=0

>Wall
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>>87826079
Because that has literally never happened.
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>>87826312
See:
>>87826247

NYTimes is somehow even more of a liberal leftist SJW propoganda machine than WSJ.
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>>87826247
>Give me a source
>except for ones I don't like

Fuck off
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>>87825831
Why would they all team up?

You realize that most of these 'non-whites' will have one white parent, right?
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>>87826247
>>87826312
>>87826334
http://usuncut.com/politics/trump-obamacare-repeal/
http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-care/what-can-new-trump-administration-do-obamacare-right-away-n682691
http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/11/politics/donald-trump-obamacare-interview/
You want any more?
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>>87823884
>>87824728
It's good to hear that other people realize this bullshit.
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>>87823855
I'm triggered that they didn't get a female or a LBGT comic writer but just a random LBGT female writer
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>>87826079
>why are people so proud of their gender, ethnicity, or sexual orientation in today's age?
People celebrate their differences so that their culture isn't wiped out.
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>>87826019
>>87826247
http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-obamacare-pre-existing-conditions-26-2016-11
Here's another one.
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>>87826382
Backpedal/moving the goalposts incoming...
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>>87826382
>usuncut
Literally who?

>NBC news article written by a "woman" named "Maggie Fox"
Oh yeah, I'm sure this is actual unbiased reporting and not yet another instance of a "woman" using her position of power to spread lies and deceit about innocent straight white men.

>CNN
See:
>>87826247

Is this seriously the best /co/mblr can do? Pathetic.
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>>87826060
>Even diaperfags are embarrassed
>or aroused
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>>87826460
Try >>87826443
Then see >>87826455
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>>87826247
http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/donald-trump-shifts-position-on-obamacare-in-60-minutes-interview/

Is straight from the orange man's mouth good enough for you?
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>>87823814
Honestly, I wish they would've just told us her ethnicity or wherever she's from desu. Person of color only says one thing: "non-white", and it's really unhelpful and kinda boring. I understand the marketing of "wow diversity" but at least make it more interesting and somewhat less disingenuous.
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>>87823814
>implying that anyone here was going to read an America Chavez book anyway
All I ever see whenever she's in a comic is people complaining about her.
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>>87823814

> reading marvel
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>>87823814
Why would anyone read a book about a character as terrible as America Chavez?
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>>87826248
Dems lost the election for one simple reason: it costs 15 times more money and effort to bring in a minority voter than a white voter, and even then the minority turnout that you generate is inconsequential due to the electoral college.

Basically, don't advertise to minorities, advertise to disenfranchised midwest whites. The white male blue collar voter is the most valuable political commodity by a wide margin, and will be for a long time to come.
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>>87823814
okay, a queer woman of color.

but... can he/she write good stories? Why should i care who she fucks with? this is Marvel and I'm sure they wont show her fucking fucking other women beyond hand holding or shit. And what the shit with geeks of color? if you REALLY want to cater to queer niggas, make a fucking Emma Frost comic or something.
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>>87826539
Hey now, they have like one or two good books.
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>>87826508
If they made her bi and hooked her up with Nightmask, I would read it.
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I don't wanna disregard her writing or whatever by saying she seems like a typical special snowflake lgbtqbbq tumbrina but man she seems like a typical special snowflake lgbtqbbq tumblrina
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>>87826601
That, and her campaign was far too focused on "Look how stupid Trump is" rather than saying why anyone should vote for her
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>>87826601
It's not hard when the minority wants to vote.

They didn't want to vote for Clinton. At all really. One thing that people don't notice is that blacks are socially conservative.
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>>87826643
...Manny from Modern Family got a haircut?
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>>87823814
When do you think Marvel will realize that it's better to have good writers and not agenda writers?
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>>87826643
Well this is clearly a thing that expects the world cater to its every whim. I hate it already.
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>>87826643

> this bio
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>>87826365

So they can all profit at the expense of whites, and having a white parent means jack and shit. If anything it makes it even worse where they double down on the other half so as to not get shit for too white
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>>87826605
This.

For example, i consider Bendis a completely shitty writer. It wouldn't change anything if Bendis was a "queer woman of color". His comic books would continue to be crap the same for me.
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>>87826715
Jesus fuck you guys are paranoid as fuck.
Literally nobody's thinking about white people unless something's happening again, and even then, white people are drawing white people's attention to it first.
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>>87826643
Disgusting
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>>87826664
she had the best reason why people should vote for her
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>>87826707
>Let’s talk about the title: America. That seems to have taken on new meaning since Donald Trump was elected president. What did the title mean to you now, after the election?
>GR: "I am still learning how to navigate this world, but to not include elements and emotions of what is going on would be a huge missed opportunity on my part — on our part. But it’s also a balance between connecting with people and alienating people. ‘Cause Latinos voted for Trump too. My family voted for Trump."

Doesn't seem like it desu. Sounds pretty balanced to me
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>>87826681
>It's not hard when the minority wants to vote.
Obama's minority super vote was, without a doubt, inconsequential to his win(s). No denying that it was an unprecedented number, and really fucking impressive, but it wasn't the clutch victory that mattered. Look at where the minority votes surged, and you'll see that it was like adding a gallon of water to an already filled pool; did it really make a difference other than as a social victory?

The reason he so handedly took the elections was because he maintained the blue wall of important white voter dominated states that can lean democrat. Trump on the other hand broke the blue wall and took the states that Romney couldn't.

Clinton could have had the same minority votes as Obama, or even more than him, and she still would have lost. Whites made the Obama victory, and whites made the Clinton loss. Minority votes are still basically just for appearances, though midwest hispanic growth will be the biggest factor in a few decades.
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>>87824055
No. It's a group or blog that's almost as obsessed about race as the KKK being hype. Which is neither good nor bad.

The fact that she's being identified by her twitter is a really bad sign though.

>>87826643
Blurb of her previous work, presented without comment.


>Juliet Milagros Palante is leaving the Bronx and headed to Portland, Oregon. She just came out to her family and isn’t sure if her mom will ever speak to her again. But Juliet has a plan, sort of, one that’s going to help her figure out this whole “Puerto Rican lesbian” thing. She’s interning with the author of her favorite book: Harlowe Brisbane, the ultimate authority on feminism, women’s bodies, and other gay-sounding stuff.

>Will Juliet be able to figure out her life over the course of one magical summer? Is that even possible? Or is she running away from all the problems that seem too big to handle?

>With more questions than answers, Juliet takes on Portland, Harlowe, and most importantly, herself.


>>87826845
If she turns out to be the most pro trump author in Marvel's bullpen, I will laugh my ass off.
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>>87823814
>I won't read something that is about, or written by, someone who isn't the same ethnicity as me

Gee OP, I wonder what problem they could be trying to solve here.
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>>87826625
I want to read a book wherein Nightmask fucks his way through college, just sticking his Martian dick in every warm hole, trying to better understand mankind.
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>>87823814
>a diversity twitter prioritizing diversity

Oh wow, what a surprise!
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>>87826904
So many minorities came out on obama's first election that it turned a southern state blue.
Most southern states are heavily populated by blacks.

That said, I didn't say anything other than "it's not hard to get black people to vote when they actually like the candidate"

Your post is largely irrelevant as a response to that statement.
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>>87827079
I just wanted to post, so sue me. But I'm also correct. The flipped blue state didn't win him the electoral votes to maintain or earn office, it was maintaining the blue wall.
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>>87826843
Is that a picture of past presidents? She's saying she's greater than all past presidents because muh 'gina?

The arrogance is astounding.
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>>87827169
Clinton's campaign was the biggest political echo chamber in the history of american politics.
From start to finish no one but the people around her liked her, and it bit the democrats in the ass, hard.
It didn't help that people were still mad about some of the stuff she said when she ran against Obama AND some of the stuff she said when running against Sanders that she never apologized for. In fact she kept insulting the Sanders supporters right up until election day, so a lot of both groups just straight stayed home.
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>>87824728
Google "person first language". I heard it first talking about people with disabilities but it applies to other marginalized groups as well. That's why person of color is different. It puts person in front.
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>>87823814
It's not that they don't want whites reading comics. It's that they want money from minorities as well. You still have a fair amount of white characters in comics.
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>>87827169
it's called breaking the glass ceiling

something she was going to do for real until the Russians rigged the election for Drumpf through the Electoral College
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>Comics drop from 100% white protagonists written by write people to just 95%
>Why don't they want white readers anymore?
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>>87823814
>people of color

This always sounded racist as fuck to me and it's baffling libs use it so much.
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>>87827539
If this is parody of bad trolling 8/10
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>>87827563
>Something something horseshoe
Seriously the "You're appropriating their culture" thing is basically the same logic for segregation, just one the "minorities" side.
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>>87827389
The difference ignores why we moved away from "colored people" to begin with.

>>87827421
No. They're primarily going for Tumblrbux, A population on average whiter than the current comicon.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

>>87827574
You could describe the entire election as a bizzare parody.
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>>87827586
Cultural appropriation is mostly spouted by white tumblrinas
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>>87827666
Hence the horseshoe. White tumblrina's are unironically spouting that they want to segregate society and they don't even realize it.
"No, don't go to chinatown and celebrate chinese new year with the chinese you culture appropriating interloper. Stay in white society where you belong!"
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>>87827715

Nobody gives a shit about what the tumblr stay-in-your-lane extreme thinks.

They're the equivalent of the alt-right except what they say is fucking annoying instead of reprehensible and dangerous.
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>>87825881
>>87826023
I think it's just shills who say "who cares?" OBVIOUSLY fans will care because they're the ones who get affected. Isn't it unusual that they would respond with "who cares?" I wonder why.
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>>87826060
So they're marking themselves with safety pins. Has anyone tried to say that this belittles Jews by making fun of them? You know, since they had to wear the Star of David during the Holocaust.
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>>87827389
Was the term perhaps coined by a person of retardation?
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>>87827916
no because Trump is literally Hitler so it's a form of protest
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>>87827814
>Alt-right
>reprehensible and dangerous
I see this meme spouted but have yet to see it backed up with anything other than "Because they're bad because people say so!"
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>>87828096
They're the most stormfront part of /pol/
Shit, I think they ARE stormfront. They aren't "dangerous" any more than any other zealot-type though, but typically normal society, by which I mean people who live or work in the city or go to universities, don't like the people who say that the KKK and stormfront aren't that bad.
That and they don't even seem to get their own irony at times.
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>>87823814

Even ignoring the "m-muh white people r vanishin" mentality, white girls are probably gonna read this.

Who am I kidding, white girls don't read superhero comics
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>>87828096
The unironically advocate objectively harmful actions and worldviews against non-whites and minorities, before you even get to how shit their views on non-social issues are

Their extreme left counterpart advocates people not order Chinese takeaway because it's cultural theft
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>>87828227
>>87828597

Is that the Alt-Right? I thought the alt-right was Alex Jones and Milo Yiannopolis.
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>>87828711
well you were lied to

Hillary gave a fantastic speech about those neo-nazi monsters
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>>87828743
The one where she complained about Pepe the frog?
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>>87828743
Oh, so I wasn't lied to?
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>>87828762
Pepe the Nazi.
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