Congratulations South Park. You've effectively trivialized

>>87821558
Yup.
Is this a problem?

>>87821558
You know people are not forced to gives a fuck about what South Park thinks.

In fact their "both sides are wrong" mentality is another retarded Statut quo technics to not offend any viewers, it's not a secret that their show is actually bluepilled as fucks.

>>87821614
Yes it could be considered a problem because the 2010's are one of the worse decade ever and they are pretending the opposite, not even allowing people to remember when times were really good.

>>87821558
Maybe if you actually care about what comedy show has to say about society

Remember when OP was huge whiny faggot and asked everyone to suck his cock? I remember

Remember when should be trivialized, and nostalgia should be mocked.

>>87821558
I haven't watched South Park in years. Sorry you feel threatened by a cartoon.

>>87821558
good

>>87821558
Good. Fuck nostalgia. Nothing but a mental band-aid for manchildren who can't let go of the past.

Thanks doc

>>87821732
The point is that times weren't necessarily better, and that nostalgia is not a suitable replacement for critical thinking.

>>87821558
You give way too much credence to that 1 joke from a comedy show.
Also nostalgia has been mocked for a long while.

>>87821679
Most episodes don't have a "both sides are wrong" morale, what that refers to is the mocking both the left and right in separate episodes.
They've been plenty partisan on lots of stuff.

>>87821745
>and asked to suck everyone's cock?
ftfy

>>87821745
ohh yea I member

>>87821558
'Member when nostalgia wasn't a concept to be ridiculed?
Ohhh, I 'member.

>>87821784
The past was fucking good unlike now.

>>87821558
I don't really see where they got the "people are voting for Donald trump for nostalgic reasons" thing, or why they're comparing it to the new star wars movie

>>87821558
Good. Fuck nostalgiafags.

>>87821732
What's so bad about the 2010s? Aside from the entertainment being kinda shit (arguably partly because of nostalgia).

>>87821816
oooh, I 'member too!

>>87821833
You're pretty fucking dumb then.

>>87821818
No it fucking wasn't.

>>87821833
MAGA

>>87821558
good

>>87821837
Progressism.

I can't believe they are still a topic after eight episodes. They are completely boring and should have only been in one episode.

>>87821818
You're exactly who they're making fun of

>>87821614
The idea that new things are automatically better than old things is fucking retarded

>>87821833
>member when bananas cost 12 cents a pound
>member when all you needed was a high school degree to earn enough money to be the breadwinner of an entire family
>member when there weren't so many mexicans around
>member when whites were respected
>member when america was great
etc.

>>87821874
It was, fucking asshole, not my fault if you were born on the 2000's, or not white or homosexual.

>>87821558
To be fair, society over the past decade have been obsessed with nostalgia to the point where it's annoying. Franchises that are 20+ years old have become potential cashcows once again with new audiences and older fans. Between 2006 and now the 80's became popular, went away and now is popular again. And you got hipsters that are constantly pushing the retro look.

The recent oversaturation of stuff that's set in or nostalgic for the 80s/early 90s is because the people who grew up during those times are now starting to dominate the entertainment industry as boomers slowly move out.

File: rs-189998-18692_lg.jpg (90KB, 620x604px) Image search: [Google]

90KB, 620x604px

>>87821833

>>87821852
No I get the AGAIN part it was just sort of wierd to me the way they went about it. Probably just me I guess

>>87821901
It's true, the past was fucking good concerning entairtenment.
Now it's complete bullshit in everything, and the SJW pandering is fucking everywhere.

The argument I see is that this happens every generation. True enough. But at least one of those generations must have been right, if you think the history of humanity has always been in a trajectory of "going up" you're fucking delusional.

>>87821833

Matt and Trey just hated TFA and wanted to say that without shoehorning it in somewhere.

>>87821938
You had a lot of things set in the fifties during the seventies for the same reason.

>>87821833
I don't get why they are bringing up the new Star Wars movie now. It came out almost a year ago. It wasn't the best thing ever but it's no where near the worst Star wars movie.

>>87821999
Considering no other generation in the history of the world has had the internet all bets are off.

>>87821906

The reverse is also true though.

>>87822006
>without shoehorning
They failed that pretty fucking hard.

>>87821999
well, the twenties were cooler than the depression and world war two
now there were some hypothetical past nostalgiafags who knew what they were talking about

>>87822006
>>87821833
I would talk shit about TFA too. Its only popular because it wasnt garbage loke the prequels and normies cant tell the difference between "new" and "good"

From a creatuve standpoint, Abrahams pulled a really shifty move that shows how scared he is to actually make a new star wars. Instead of having the balls to so something new, like Lucas dod in the PT, he recycled what made the old ones good.

>>87821982
Anyone who doesn't think literally everything was better pre, let's say 1998, is just kidding themselves
>movies
>music
>the news
>women's attitudes
>fag suppression
>black community wasnt on their high horse yet
Ect.

>>87821558
They were right about the new Star Wars at least

>>87821901
>>87821982
>South Park was funny till it made fun of ME

Every time.

Trey & Matt are against Trump only because they are part of cultural lobbying propaganda, they don't gives a fuck if Clinton start a new war, they are rich, famous and love pretending they are on some "intellectual satirical" war against the establishment.

They are still people who can't accept this show is now irrelevant, totally political and bluepilled?

>>87822129
This is all true, except for fag oppression. Mostly because I dont believe in it

Most nostalgia fags I know weren't even around during the time period they are nostalgic for. One yearns to go back to the fifties because he believes it to have the best values. He's only thirty and just wants a wife he can control financially. Another is really in to the nineties despite being only twenty.

>>87821852

No it's fucking retarded.

The new Star Wars films was "muh progressiveness" incarnate, it was pandering to the people who would vote Hillary, not the other way around.

>>87822200

Most "90s kids" were born between '95-'98. You won't be remembering most of the '90s unless you're at least 30.

>>87821558
why I have the feeling that Trey and Matt finally snapped after hearing "old south park was better" too many times?

File: Reagan gives advice to Jimmy Carter.jpg (28KB, 300x300px) Image search: [Google]

28KB, 300x300px

>>87821558
I agreed with everything those berries said. Especially the Reagan stuff.

>>87822182
I put suppression on purpose. Meaning people just didn't give a shit about their dumb opinions on shit and didn't let them put their opinion on literally every subject, including cartoons.

File: 41F8567D-1C58-4532-8398-7CD8916CFF7F-2176-000006FF68669612_tmp.png (349KB, 448x436px) Image search: [Google]

349KB, 448x436px

Oh look, this thread AGAIN for the, what, 30th? time...

Do you fags just get so bored in your echo chambers that you have to drag this shit to here?

>>87822290

The truth hurts.

>>87822060
Because you pretty much had to wait a year before you could even openly criticize it and not be called a nostalgic contrarian, misogynist or bigot because there were so many SJWs and rabid fans praising it.

>>87822206
You see people who aren't "redpiiled" or whatever you call yourself, thought it was a piece of shit because of >>87822121
They couldn't give a fuck about blacks storm troopers or gurl powa

>>87822329
I miss when the plots were centered, mostly atleast, in just their town. Now it seems all their adventures are on a global scale.

>>87822176
>the only reason you don't like it is because it makes fun of you
Like clockwork.

>>87821922
Those were all fucking great things.

God-tier
>The past

Good-tier
>The future

Shit-tier
>The present

You legally can not disagree.

>>87822129
Only the news is worse now

There were alot of shitty 90s music and movies that nobody remebers.

>>87822327
'Member Tarkin?

I laughed when the berries sang Toto's Africa.

>>87821837
Politics, witch hunts, people literally suicide bombing, anti-sex culture.

>>87821558

So they actually did some good this season

>>87822533
member the moffship?
memer the mofference room?

>>87821558
Is this season an attempt at anti-humor?

>>87821833
"Make America great again" implies some degree of looking fondly on the past.

>>87821895
Not new.

>>87822539
None of this is 2010s specific.

File: cartman.gif (21KB, 400x300px) Image search: [Google]

21KB, 400x300px

Friendly reminder

>"Cartman" is an ad
>The real Cartman has been in hiding the whole time, developing his master plan, and will swoop in at the end to save the day

>>87822393

>it was shit for more than one reason

Who knew!

>>87822181
>starts a new war
Threadly reminder that the Syrian war has been on for 5 years and the US have been involved in it for 2.

File: images(6).jpg (5KB, 275x183px) Image search: [Google]

5KB, 275x183px

>>87822200
>mfw a black friend of mine told me she wishes she lived in the 20s

>>87821558
Nostalgia has always been a concept subject to ridicule, and for good reason.

>>87821558
As it should be. It was about time somebody breaks the nostalgiafags' glasses

>>87822907
How long has it been since thre has been a good cartoon?

>>87822929
Maybe a year, depending on your tastes, except if upcoming good cartoons count too in which case 0 amount of time.

File: slightly bemused.jpg (69KB, 500x440px) Image search: [Google]

69KB, 500x440px

>>87822823
>the US have been involved in it for 2.

>>87822539
what fucking witch hunts

>>87822539
>anti-sex culture.
What?

>>87823394
My mistake, 4 years actually.

File: 1422904805010.gif (3MB, 390x293px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 390x293px

>it's a drumpfkin's hurt feelings episode

>>87823534

Americans are still ridiculously prudish compared to other cultures when it comes to things being even remotely sexual. It's to the point where they will find sexual content where there is none.

>>87824010

That's not really anything new, and it sure as fuck wasn't any better in the past. If anything people are gradually getting away with way more shit now than they could in the 00s.

>>87821833
The whole thing with an all white country with minorities in their place no muslims in place, just like after WW ll. Obviously that's imposible but some people member.

File: 1462330139219.jpg (158KB, 472x600px) Image search: [Google]

158KB, 472x600px

>>87824010
I thought we were the source of jewish subterfuge or something though.

>>87821558
Trump is our savior!

>>87823835

http://cornellsun.com/2016/11/10/professors-cancel-class-responding-to-shocking-election-results/

If you say so kiddo.

File: 56ffcedfc36188fe4d8b4581.jpg (181KB, 900x500px) Image search: [Google]

181KB, 900x500px

Nostalgia can be fucking toxic if you let it.

Blaming nostalgia for Trump never completely made sense to me though. I don't think "my state is in a continual downward economic spiral and all our jobs are being outsourced for the benefit of major population centers while we all die of heroin addiction and lack of health care" is nostalgic.

I wonder if they're gonna bring Wikileaks back.

>>87824465
>"my state is in a continual downward economic spiral and all our jobs are being outsourced for the benefit of major population centers while we all die of heroin addiction and lack of health care
The answer to all of these problems is increased government spending, more jobs to support healthcare to stop addiciton and fight unemployment, we've got it here in britain.

>>87822129
>music
No way. I'll take Dethklok and BabyMetal over Limp Bizkit or Omega And The Mechanical Animals in an attosecond.

>>87822435
Sure they we're, but only a retard thinks it's possible to go back to all that.

>>87824465

his entire campaign is make america great AGAIN.

>>87824499
Nanny states are cancer to the human soul.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/nov/19/extreme-surveillance-becomes-uk-law-with-barely-a-whimper

Well I think memberberriers are a good thing!......in moderation

>>87824499
>The answer to all of these problems is increased government spending

But that hasn't worked in Britain.

>>87824538
Sure, it's nostalgia for a time that never really existed as they envision it. But nostalgia for when you had a decent job and could support your family isn't naive or childish, its the basic drive that gets leaders elected. And I think it's wrong and a little meanspirited to directly associate "remember Toto?" with "remember when uncle Pete was alive?". Bernie was the only candidate who really seemed driven by progress and shit, and I don't think he would have a good time as President given his track record.

>>87824499
>More government spending

It's a joke by the elite to subjugate the poor. The Elite and Rich are the ones with the power to hire people to decipher the tax code and find the loopholes to escape losing money.

The middle class and poor are the ones who get hit harder and harder with more of this shit as the divide is widened.

How do you not get something so basic?
More government spending just makes more poor people because the people who managed to survive in the middle get dragged down while the ones on top just throw a bit of money at lawyers and get to keep most of it.

File: adam curtis.jpg (154KB, 1440x812px) Image search: [Google]

154KB, 1440x812px

>>87824646
Hypernormalization pls.

>>87821558
What you MEANT to type was "You've effectively removed our ability to have threads that start with the phrase 'Remember when...' without them devolving into shitposting."

And I do not see it as any great loss

>>87824465
>my state is in a continual downward economic spiral
Is that how americans spell "extreme income inequality"?

>>87821558
Hey I 'member this anon, he posted this same stuff last week, you guys 'member?

>>87824628
"Progress" has been co-opted as a political statement and is therefore distrusted by everyone, and rightly so. Literally any idea may be labeled progressive; it just so happens the dominant political power labels it's preferred worldviews and policies progressive.

Someone yearning for a time or past that was beneficial to them for any reason, be it economic or racial, is not inherently evil or even wrong (KANGZ, LE GAUL, BUILD WALL) and may even be labeled "progressive" if the tide of politics swings that way.

What IS wrong is avoiding rational discussions with others to get down to the root of a disagreement or a misconception. The zeitgeist of this generation is anti-rationality. If you disagree with me, you're a racist, communist, Nazi, Lefty, so on. Conversation has disappeared. What's left is a digital echo chamber replete with recurrent memes and ideas jostling for position like two cultures of bacteria in a Petri dish.

Trump won because he, in his own stupid, blundering way, actually attempted to converse with people who had for decades been ignored. People don't want leaders, they want someone who will talk to them and, more importantly, who will listen to what they have to say.

>>87824735
We generally don't see one guy being rich as the reason we're not rich ourselves. That as long as the trade systems were fair and as long as our leaders actually had our interests at heart, there's no reason that everyone can't benefit.

I dunno. The banks can make all the money they want as long as people in the boonies are ok, as far as I'm concerned.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtjfoEvsR9w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcy8uLjRHPM

>>87824780
What exactly makes americans so opposed to taxing the rich to pay for the welfare of the poor? Some kind of hope that one day they'll themeslves make bill gates money and would end up on the paying side?

>>87824767
I blame it on the death of on-the-ground local reporting. When you aren't actually talking to people, when you get all your information from an increasingly small circle of data outlets, when the entire news system is smaller and more inbred than ever, its not a surprise that people reject the classic sources of information in favor of misleading sources that appeal directly to them. "if they lied to us that we're actually doing ok, why should I believe them when they say that there are some unsavory people in the new cabinet".

If you can't articulate your positions to the public, you lose your mandate to control them. We're in for some shit.

>>87822539
>>87823534
>anti-sex culture

PC culture is anti sex cutler, pro feminism, pro cucks, anti rape, Pro prison rape, pro white knight, pro M' lady, pro fedora tipping, pro being a fucking loser that will never get laid.

>>87824465
A common response to lack of stability is to retreat into spaces that you considered to be stable before.
Nostalgia is to put value in the past.
Do the math.

Same way MRAs and the like operate. So many things changed in such a short time that it's terrifying to people who were used to the world working in a certain way. So they go to the extreme opposite pole to oppose the new by selectively remembering the aspects of the past that can be differentiated from the unwanted present.

It was reasonable to assume that this social phenomenon would have a political effect, given that both of those spheres are directly intertwined. I didn't think it'd be THIS much of an effect.
The world retains the ability to be surprising, thankfully.

>>87824898
Nah, americans are just a bunch of hypocritical prudes which is not unique to any side of the culture war.

>>87824836
Because it has the implication of punishing people for success and rewarding people for failure. I know thats' wrongheaded as a society, but personally I just don't trust anyone who runs on that platform because it just centralizes control and dependence even more on the government, right when it shows itself to be untrustworthy.

We'd rather be told that the system can be made more fair without adding to government influence by having straightforward, fair laws.

>>87824922
>MRAs

Oh, I can't wait to hear this.

Please, tell me what part of "social progress" MRAs are against?

>>87824940
PC Culture made it extremely hard to talk to or hit on women.

>Me: hi my name i-
>Woman: RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPE!
>goes to prison then gets raped.

>>87824836

See shit holes like Detroit for your answer.

>>87821679
if you're on a "side" you are probably retarded and part of the status quo. Looking at everyone's problems is the only way to be objective.

>>87824922
That dichotomy just leads to "the urban left are the future, the rural right are the past", which is more of an economic conclusion than a moral one. Its self-reinforcing too, since most new media is brought up in that same urban left culture.

The rural population has no intrinsic propensity to be racist or bigoted or whatever, and the urban population has no propensity to being open and pacifist and shit. But people in suffering economies always revert to uncertainty and fear, which leads to hero worship and scapegoating.

I think people would be a lot happier if Tulsa and Helena were booming at the same rate as Boston and Miami, since they wouldn't feel like others were benefiting at their expense.

File: Heidi_Probably.png (112KB, 404x313px) Image search: [Google]

112KB, 404x313px

>>87821732
Don't worry anon, Heidi is really smart and really funny. She can find a perfect middle ground between nostalgia and backwards thinking.

>>87824010
I can't tell what you're talking about or what it has to do with the 2010s

>>87825036
The fact that they're supporting the social interests of the gender that is economically dominant is pretty anti-progress, if that's how you want to look at it.

>but homeless and suicide statistics

Sure, fine, both sides argue that they're the victims. There's no reason to fucking hate people over it.

>>87824922
>the 't-t-they racist and old fashioned' narrative
A country that twice elected Obama by large margins is apparently now full of scared regressives.

>>87825053
>Me: Hi my name i-
>woman: you're making me uncomfturable, please leave.
>Me: we just met I don't know what you'r-
>woman: RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPE!
>Goes to jail then gets raped in jail.

>>87825053

I'll take "things that never happened" for 500, Alex.

>>87825107
And property values.

The wealthier and more heavily-populated urban centers become to more difficult it is to live in those places. Rural townships become effectively isolated, more than they've ever been, because the barrier of entry into urban centers is so monumentally high.

And those in urban centers begin to collate economic inferiority with ethnic or cultural inferiority (see: flyover states, meth jokes, general derision and disgust towards small-town America, etc.) and become less welcoming and more insular.

But it always auto-corrects. Eventually cities become too large to be feasible and people have to leave. Rural America will experience their boom again once big places like California fail.

Pottery.

>>87825185
So what you're saying is that men and whites supporting their own interests, like every other group, are bad?

>>87824628
Dude Bernie sold out. He may or may not have been a plant, but he really wasn't someone I'd want on the national or international level. He's not submissive, but he's not a man of confidence or true charisma. He can summon those uo, but it was rare and like premature ejaculation.

>>87825107
This.

Saying that Trump's rise is JUST nostalgia is kind of ignoring everything the Democrats to fuck up what should've been a goddamn slam dunk.

>>87825210
>"this never happens" vs "this is all that ever happens"

Don't do this, guys. Identity politics are ruining this country.

>>87825185

>The fact that they're supporting the social interests of the gender that is economically dominant is pretty anti-progress

In what conceivable way?

>>87825185
>All men are economically dominant.
False. Next.

>Progress
Means nothing. Death is progressive. Cancer is progressive. Speak clearly or don't speak at all.

>Everyone's a retard so no one is
So you've never really given this any thought, huh?

>>87821773
/thread

>>87825217
>California is a single city
>not a single rural area in it

>>87825225

>bernie isn't submissive

So it was someone else who got shut down by 2 BLM supporters?

>>87825210
>things that never happened

Of course it never happened but in the future that is how extreme PC culture will be. Hell PC culture acts like that now.

>EXCUSE ME DID YOU ASSUME MY GENDER?!?
>RAPE CULTURE!!!
>TRIGGERED!!!!
>DON'T VICTIM BLAME ME!
>I'M A SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE
>SAFE SPACE
>DON'T GENDER SHAME ME!
>I'M NONE BINARY!

All this stupid first world problem bullshit and more!

>>87821773
>Anyone who disagrees with me is a manchild.

Quite the childlike worldview you have, anon. I suppose they have cooties as well?

>>87825222
I'm saying that the MRA don't seem to have an end goal. All they can do is find hypocrisy and criticize it without offering an alternative. Do they want to stop working in mines and in the military? Or do they want women to stop? Or do they just want to stop being bullied in laundry commercials?

I thought the goal here was to live your life the way you want to without taking or giving shit about it.

>>87821558
It's kinda like how "That's what she said.." ruined innuendo.

>>87825295
California is the single most populous state in the United States.

It's rural areas have populations that rival entire states. You can't compare "rural" California to "rural" Arkansas.

>>87825313

>I thought the goal here was to live your life the way you want to without taking or giving shit about it.

I think you're conflating MGTOW with the MRM.

>>87825225
>Dude Bernie sold out.
No, he was trying to operate within the system, because that's his job. Democrats winning would have given him more influence in the Senate.

>>87824767
I once read an interesting article how the internet reduced people's tolerance capacity, since it helps avoid interactions with people/situations where we have to put up with anoying shit and different opinions.

>>87824836
The rich have a very good media footprint and have created the narrative that poverty is deserved and that it's entirely possible to be 100% self made. Even though the vast majority of our wealthy inherited or got massive loans or flat out stole other people's work to get where they are.

History is written by the winners.

>>87825313
>If I say the steak is burnt but I don't offer to cook a new steak, the steak is not actually burnt.

So again you've never given any of this any real thought.

>>87821558
Mad they did what /v/, /co/, and /tv/ have been trying do for years.

>>87825365

>he didn't sell out

Hillary was everything he was "fighting" against. To not only concede, but to endorse someone like that is the exact definition of a sell out.

>>87825295
Trump won most of the north and the east, which are Calif's rural counties.

>>87825382
>The rich.
>The left-leaning, progressive liberal nouveau-American-riche.
>Claiming poverty is deserved.

Jesus man.

Go outside.

File: 1467158483398.png (1MB, 1200x675px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1200x675px

>>87825249
If your goal is to create a society where every individual is able to perform to their fullest potential and to remove barriers that inhibit them unnecessarily, you would logically start by addressing the concerns of the people who have the most glaring barriers. Men are free to advocate for better divorce representation and shit, I see no reason why they should be in conflict with women who encourage other women to take opportunities despite nagging discouragement.

I don't know how I ended up defending feminism here. I just hate seeing America being more fucked up by unreasonable division than the fuckers we're supposed to be fighting.

>>87825217
Rural exodus basically never reverses.

>>87825357
Nigger, I lived in rural California for most of my childhood and there's a shit ton of sparsely populated areas.

Maybe you just have a child's idea of population density, but California won't become "full" or some shit unless it's population expands exponentially.

For comparison, look at the population and landmass of Japan. Surprise! There's still isolated rural areas there too.

Nostalgia is not inherently bad, and I see it as less of a threat than automatic defences for everything that hypes itself as new. The latter makes legitimate criticism harder to apply or discuss, and that, in turn, leads to mistakes being made that could have easily been avoided. It's not a dichotomy, but with how nostalgia is used as a way to deflect, it might as well be one.

>>87825469
Until population centers collapse.

Then those people migrate to other population centers or reintegrate back into rural areas.

>>87825448
I wasn't talking about the noveau-riche but rather old money. The other side of that coin is the right leaning "poor people just don't work hard enough and want a handout" set that still very much exists.

Turn on a TV once in a while and tell me those people aren't still out there spouting that shit.

>>87825487
Did you read the post at all?

>We've got lots of rural, sparsely populated areas!
No fucking shit! Arkansas has, what, two?

You're still not understanding the vast differences in overall population here. Think before you type. However many rural areas you think there are in California there are other states whose "rural areas" encompass most of the state.

>>87825448
>the rich
>left-leaning
Source? Hollywood is not representative.

>>87824977
>Because it has the implication of punishing people for success and rewarding people for failure
So life in the US consists solely of savage competition where guaranteeing a minimum quality of life for everyone would be coddling the losers. Got it.

However it would be pretty hypocritical to cry about rich people getting richer and that we should do something about it and then turn around and defend this cynical dog-eat-dog society that made it possible for them to accumulate all that wealth.

>>87825432
So, what, you think the strategy for a Democrat in the white house would have been for him to continue to split the party even after he lost?

>>87825506
I think the ratio of right-leaning rich people to left-leaning rich people spouting garbage on air is very much one-sided.

I think you choose to be offended by what is almost objectively a minority opinion amid a sea of feel-good leftist dogma supported by billionaires.

>>87825449
>you would logically start by addressing the concerns of the people who have the most glaring barriers.
So what you're saying is that you're not going to address the needs of anybody until the most oppressed group is lifted? No multitasking?
Great. Block white women from enrolling college, we must focus on black transgender trisexual disabled women first.

>>87825500
Can you name instances of that actually happening? Because that seems like conjecture.

>>87825449
>you would logically start by addressing the concerns of the people who have the most glaring barriers.
You sort of glossed over a very important point: Everyone thinks their problems are bigger than other people's. That's why you've got women saying catcalling is a bigger issue than a disproportionately high rate of suicide depression, and violent crime victimization; it's not something they have to deal with.

And you're right there's no reason those goals SHOULD be in conflict, but then, you're presuming that the conflict is coming from only one side, which is very disingenuous. Because who is it that's mocking the idea of issues men face even being brought up in the first place? How is that not creating conflict?

>>87825500
>Until population centers collapse.
Which doesn't happen in first world countries.

>>87825572
>muh detroit muh niggers

>>87825534
>The one place where 99% of new American billionaires are made and live.
>Not representative.

I think you REALLY need to go outside.

>>87825572
look up white flight. Specifically happened in Indianapolis and Detroit at the very least.

>>87825368
There was an entire book I read about that, but fuck if I can remember the title. There's definitely been a lot of people who are pointing to the same thing though, that the fragmentation of the internet is making shit worse and more polarized and less factual and rational than ever, as everyone retreats to their safe spaces where they can set up their own little private version of reality and never have to interact with anything that might challenge them in any meaningful way ever again.

The internet even actively encourages this behavior- I saw a video of someone who set up a fresh firefox install on a virtual machine, went to youtube to show the suggestions were random and innocuous, made one post on /pol/, and then went to back youtube and had several neo nazi videos automatically suggested for him.

I wish I had saved at least one of those two things so I wouldn't sound so fucking weaselly saying 'oh, that shit probably exists out there somewhere, maybe'.

>>87825550
>I think the ratio of right-leaning rich people to left-leaning rich people spouting garbage on air is very much one-sided.
Depends on the channel.
And the thing is I'm actually kind of offended by both sides. One tells me not to speak, the other says I speak so well. Fuck 'em both. I'm either trash or a pet, never an equal.

File: 1476797475590.jpg (76KB, 396x626px) Image search: [Google]

76KB, 396x626px

>>87825589
>99% of new American billionaires live in hollywood
>tfw this is the kind of mouthbreather you spend all day arguing with

>>87825449

>I see no reason why they should be in conflict with....

Presumably because the conflict isn't a one-way street. Many feminists feel that there should not be a movement advocating for men's rights or dealing with issues that disproportionately affect men at all. In short, they believe feminism is more than equipped to deal with that as well. You can imagine that those who disagreed might have been upset by this (from their perspective) unwarranted pushback. Especially because Feminism has a great deal of financial and political power by comparison to the toothless MRM, and is much better at shutting down or vilifying their enemies. They've got quite a lot of experience in that regard.

The fact of the matter is that both Feminism and the Men's Rights Movement, on the face of it, come across as diametrically opposed to one another simply because many of the people that count themselves members of each movement have suffered at the hands of the opposite gender. So you're going to get a lot of vocal man-haters and woman-haters in both, even if they don't really represent the bulk of each movement.

There is nothing "regressive" about having a MRM alongside Feminism, at all. Both are attempting to see progress made for their pet social issues, not go backwards.

>>87821558
There's nothing wrong with having nostalgia.

It's when you try to hold it on a pedestal as some ideal to strive back to that we have a problem.

Here's the thing; we are better off now than any human ever was in the history of the world.

Right now, we are living in a golden age.
It's the single most peaceful time in human history. Infant mortality, disease mortality, human slavery and poverty are all down. Literacy, globlal IQ averages and general quality of life are up. These are quantifiable facts.
We have the internet. We have cars. Our POOREST residents enjoy a higher quality of live than the richest did two hundred years ago, and about on par with the middle class a hundred years ago.
Right now, as we are, is the single best time to be a living human being than at any point in our species's history, and to deny that shows blatant ignorance and selfishness.

It's okay to reminisce. It's okay remember your childhood. But to imply that the way it was was in any way better than what we have now is the single most selfish and shortsighted thing you can possibly do.

>>87825553
>Block white women from enrolling college, we must focus on black transgender trisexual disabled women first.
Actually you'd be focusing on straight black *men*.
The whole "women are second class citizens" thing that feminism puts out only works for them because they ignore the latter half of the statement where there's more than two classes.

>>87821558

I haven't seen SP in years. What's the context of those grapes?

>>87825588
>>87825601
Did white flighters significantly repopulate those states' rural areas?

>>87825625
Oh look, facts.

>http://www.forbes.com/sites/katiesola/2016/03/05/here-are-the-states-with-the-most-billionaires/#46a8d79746b5

Highest concentration of billionaires in the United States is in California. But that doesn't count, right anon?

>>87825544

Why not? I thought he was leading a revolution to get rid of corruption in politics?

>>87825675
it led to the most prosperous suburbs of Indiana, and yeah those were formerly rural

>>87825589
>99% of new b>>87825601
illionaires come from the movie industry
How clueless are you?

>>87825553
>self-labeled "progressives"
>multi-tasking
Everytime someone says they can focus on more than one thing, they're lying through their teeth. AT BEST, they can stop themselves from saying "actually, [z] is really just a symptom of [x] and [y]" long enough to feign interest.

>>87825527
The post implies that either California is a single big city that will collapse, or that it's big cities will collapse and people will have no choice but to flee the state for places with minimal economic opportunity because FUCKING RURAL SMALL TOWNS LA DI DA!

If big cities in California were to collapse due to the general incompetence of liberal politicians, people won't need to leave everything to go to bum fuck nowhere where there's no work or money to be had, they will just expand into California's own vast rural areas.

Do you even know what you're arguing for anymore retard?

File: 1472005569272.png (21KB, 190x200px) Image search: [Google]

21KB, 190x200px

>>87825383
I'm saying I'd rather address the people who actually have concrete goals and platforms, that's all. Sometimes it feels like people are conflating personal failings for persecution, and it's not fun sitting there parsing the difference for them.

>>87825537
America is about compromise, not competition really. We have elements of social supports, and we have elements of raw competition. Right now it's pretty clear that the compromise has been broken in favor of the powerful, but they're so closely linked with the mediators we elect that there's no clear way to solve the problem. I mean, I sure as fuck don't trust Trump to resolve Medicare or make a smarter version of Obamacare, but I do trust him to turn our trade policy towards the American rich instead of foreign rich.

Short of burning Manhattan and San Francisco to the ground, I have no idea what to do, honestly.

>>87825553
That's a false dichotomy and you know it, man. You pay attention to things in proportion to their severity. That's how we've always done it, and that's how it's being done now.

>>87825579
Right, and that's why their arguments need to be clearly and plainly articulated in the public square so people can address them. We aren't the arbiters of public opinion, for better or worse.

Literally the only social issue I understand is global terror networks. I've been reading about that shit since I was 16. I don't know anything about gender politics besides sharia dress codes and corporal punishment.

>>87825646
>It's when you try to hold it on a pedestal as some ideal to strive back to that we have a problem.
The Renaissance.

>>87825677
Nigga Hollywood=/= Silicon valley.

>>87825755
>You pay attention to things in proportion to their severity
And thus, it still makes sense to advocate for issues that affect men, and there is no anti-progress in that.

>>87825739
>The post implies that either California is a single big city that will collapse

It didn't.

>that it's big cities will collapse and people will have no choice but to flee the state for places with minimal economic opportunity

It didn't.

I love the fact, however, that you agree with the original post while lecturing me on "the argument."

>they will just expand into California's own vast rural areas.

You done?

I think memberberries are commenting on our passive acceptance of shit! Episode 7 was garbage PC-rehash.

What we let pass as entertainment just ends up being shitty memberberries. Member your cultivated taste, the great stories of being human, then make something better! Don't capitulate. That's what I'm doing at least: not capitulating.

Don't pander of PC libtards, and don't censor yourself, and you'll make great art. I believe in you guys.

>>87825713
Suburbs don't count as rural areas, they're just the periphery of cities.

>>87825755
No, you're saying that instead of thinking about an issue you'd rather be told what to think about an issue.

If you deliberately ignore people who, according to you, "provide no alternatives," how do you know no alternatives have been provided?

You're not thinking at all, and you admit to it.

>>87825755
>Right, and that's why their arguments need to be clearly and plainly articulated in the public square so people can address them.
Kind of hard to do when your seminars and speeches get protested and shut down by the supposed "progressives".

And the idea that feminism has concrete goals and platforms is hilarious. It's fragmented as fuck specifically because they have no central dogma or goal and can't agree on anything. Like porn. Do you think there's an official stance on porn? There's like eighty.

>>87825760
What are you trying to say? That we should go back to the Renaissance? Or the Renaissance was about putting the past on a pedestal? Because you'd be wrong on both counts

>>87825765
>Facts that disprove my statement
>THEY DON'T COUNT

Why do you use nigga?

>>87825799
I don't believe in you.

>>87825849
It's a colloquialism.
Your statement was that 99% of new billionaires come from Hollywood (the substrata of LA devoted to producing movies), not that California has the highest number of billionaires.
Your facts disprove YOUR claim, tardo.

>>87825849
>implying everyone on 4chan isn't black, and a little girl
baka nigga pls

>>87825785
>Rural America will experience their boom again once big places like California fail.

This implies that rural America is somehow seperate from California, and is also proof that you either don't read your own posts, lack basic reading comprehension skills even when reading your own posts, or you have an incredibly loose grasp of the English language.

>You done?
Yeah, I think I'm done arguing with a retard over the Internet.

Good luck on finally earning that GED.

File: 1403371617319.jpg (38KB, 401x401px) Image search: [Google]

38KB, 401x401px

>>87824416
>n-n-no U!

File: 1473531923738.gif (2MB, 293x240px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 293x240px

>>87825824
I'm not a social justice warrior for men or women. I've read the little I've been presented by both sides, and formed my views on that information. I don't pursue those topics, and this is pretty much the first discussion I've had about them online. I'm not going to go out of my way to study abortion statistics and I'm not going out of my way to study child custody cases. And I don't expect you guys to check out a book on Jamaat e Islamia.

>>87825833
I hate academic censorship as much as anyone, but being censored doesn't mean you're right, only that those who dominate the arena disagree.

File: tumblr_ljwo7u4Swc1qcjjemo1_500.jpg (98KB, 500x292px) Image search: [Google]

98KB, 500x292px

>>87824572
Moderation

>>87825991

>I hate academic censorship as much as anyone, but being censored doesn't mean you're right

Who said anything about being right or wrong? The person you're quoting was responding to your statement that "their arguments need to be clearly and plainly articulated in the public square so people can address them".

>>87821558
They aren't harping on about nostalgia you idiot. They're saying that peoples nostalgia is being used against them because they cling to it like a drug.

Nostalgia is a fine thing, good memories that are clear are a fine thing.
Letting yourself get suckered into things because of it is not.

>>87825955

How was your cry in at your $40,000 daycare? Did you get all those tears out?

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/11/09/universities-post-election-treatment-tea-meditation-walkouts-and-tears/93570604/

>>87826128
>>87824416

What the fuck are you doing, America?

>>87825991
>and formed my views on that information
>but being censored doesn't mean you're right,
I hope you understand the incongruity of your statements. How can you hope to be well informed when you see that one side is being censored?

File: 1478758526789.jpg (93KB, 842x840px) Image search: [Google]

93KB, 842x840px

>>87826075
Which is shit, but I have more sympathy for MRA guys being silenced than I do for a lot of their grievances, ultimately. I also don't have much sympathy for a lot of feminist grievances.

I came here to argue about Trump and terrorists, not gender issues. I'm out of my depth.

File: 1249.gif (2MB, 234x161px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 234x161px

>>87824010
>He thinks America was less prudish in the past

>>87826154
Everyone's been asking the same question since 9.11

File: 1437958209097.jpg (9KB, 256x192px) Image search: [Google]

9KB, 256x192px

>>87826128
What argument are you trying to make?

>>87821558
>nostalgia retards and their dumb arguments are now ridiculed

What's wrong with that?

>>87826249

Can you follow a thread?

>>87825991
>i am informed
>I also understand that the information is flawed because one side is being censored
>the available information says that men are absolutely more privileged
>anybody who argues otherwise is anti-progress
You're not making sense.

>>87821558
Nostalgia as a concept should always be ridiculed.

>>87826304
Don't dodge the question.

>OP and entire thread proves Trey and Matt right

Jesus, And here i thought the plot point was overplayed. Guess they really do still have it.

>>87826308
Are you saying you get your news from university lectures? Are they shutting down Drudge and Breitbart?

>>87826227
How do you know what their grievances actually are?

>>87825217
>Eventually cities become too large to be feasible and people have to leave.

That's usually because of Plague, dude.
We haven't had a solid, global population level affecting plague since like the Spanish Flu. And we probably won't until antibiotics become wholly useless, and even then modern medical knowledge might manage to keep it contained the way ebola was recently.

File: a1d.jpg (74KB, 600x721px) Image search: [Google]

74KB, 600x721px

>>87825307

>>87821558
>Being so much of a plebian that you let South Park dictate any portion of your life or conversations.

>>87826363
Internet articles and 4chan, same as anyone.

>>87826340

I'll take that as a no.

>>87826423
>LALALALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU

cuck

>>87824010
1. This post has barely anything to do with the previous posts.
2. What cultures are less "prudish" than America outside of western/central continental Europe?
3. What is the last sentence referring to?
4. Are you suggesting that there's been some sort of anti-sex uprising in America in the 2010s?

>>87825217
>Eventually cities become too large to be feasible and people have to leave
What the fuck am I reading

>>87826447
>>87826423
He drew the cuck card on you m8. You lost this fight.
Reshuffle and try again.

>>87821558
>You've effectively trivialized any statement that begins with "remember when...?"
already trivialized by pepperidge farm
> and permanently turned nostalgia as a concept into something to be ridiculed.
good.

>>87821999
Maybe it's always been shit, or maybe there's no way to actually compare time periods in term of quality.

It's just a fact of the matter that the past always seems at least "less worse", because between a shit past and a shit present only the shit present is constantly hitting you in the face with how shit it is.

>>87821558
memories are bad now and cannot be trusted anything you remember fondly is a lie. Now that that has been said we need to draw the line of how far back we can remember things before it becomes nostalgia. I say about a week or two.

File: Pepperidge farms.jpg (68KB, 484x385px) Image search: [Google]

68KB, 484x385px

>>87826653
>It's just a fact of the matter that the past always seems at least "less worse", because you were younger and had far less discerning taste in everything.
Fix'd.
Only people who come into a lot of money as an adult don't look back with nostalgia to the time when Mommy and Daddy paid for everything, and your dick was yearning for all the things it cannot have.

>>87821558
No it hasnt, because this season is shit and South Park has become irrelevant. No one will even think of memberberries 2 years from now

>>87826890
The nile isn't just a river in egypt.

Why shouldn't nostalgia be ridiculed? Nostalgia is by definition being attached to something just because it happened in the past. It's part of human nature, sure, but when it starts influencing important decisions it crosses a line.

>>87821982
>liberal media only started existing in the 2010's now that I've graduated middle school and become politically conscious
>boy do I miss 1999 when I was only 1 month old, times were so much better back then
Progressive types have existed for decades, the only difference is back then they had more things to bitch about and less people were willing to listen to them

>>87826945
Do you really think people are going to remember this?

File: 1410365544302.png (120KB, 236x330px) Image search: [Google]

120KB, 236x330px

>>87821558
Good.

File: e3bde75deea70c531e6bdf50c0ba3d0f.jpg (205KB, 495x700px) Image search: [Google]

205KB, 495x700px

>>87821558
>permanently turned nostalgia as a concept into something to be ridiculed.
does this mean we can talk about pokemon now?

>>87827004
Nostalgia is important because change is often unnecessary, and occasionally damaging, and it is useful to reexplore previous methods to determine whether they were better than current ones.

The idea that history moves "forward" is not a good idea. It simply "moves".

>>87827298
>change is often unnecessary
Autism speaks.

>>87821679
>You know people are not forced to gives a fuck about what South Park thinks.
A lot of people are because their primitive sheep brains force them to accept and imitate whatever they see on TV.

>>87821773
Nostalgia was an innocent thing before contrarians like you automatically hated things that a certain number of people talked about or liked.

If you told me there are things in the past you don't miss or that you never liked anything in the past(which is a fucking paradox because time forever moves forward, meaning the present eventually becomes the past) then I'd call you the biggest fucking liar ever.

>>87827343
Change isn't inherently good, anon.

It's only good when it's an improvement.

File: 1345374469935.gif (20KB, 192x167px) Image search: [Google]

20KB, 192x167px

>>87827298
in what universe do you live in where nostalgia is at all conducive to discussion and progress? all its ever used for is reason to bitch at people for liking different shit

>it is useful to reexplore previous methods to determine whether they were better than current ones.
this is some major fedoraspeak and has literally never been done

>The idea that history moves "forward" is not a good idea. It simply "moves"
Yeah. In a forward direction. Sorry you cant just reshape a basic concept to fit your argument

File: homer61.jpg (29KB, 574x445px) Image search: [Google]

29KB, 574x445px

>>87821874
>contrarian

>>87821732
That's kind of the point. The 2010's is trying to be an inferior version of better decades past, and people preying on that are making a killing by doing so.

If anything, Trey and Matt are the nostalgiafags for thinking that previous decades were objectively better.

That said, the berries are fucking awful. A godawful strawman argument that doesn't even attempt to hide their biases.

File: 1474015829774.jpg (233KB, 560x560px) Image search: [Google]

233KB, 560x560px

>>87827417

>>87821752
Get a load of this tool.

I bet you also think that everything new and innovative is objectively better than tried and true methods.

>>87827417
>>87827476
It's vacation time for you shit posters!

>>87827488
hur dur change bad old good!!!

we should still ride on horses

>>87821773
>remembering when culture was targeted to you is a mental band-aid.

Well aren't you a baseball full of razors

>>87822539
So all shit that existed in past decades with the same (if not more) prevalence?

>>87827298
>Nostalgia is important because change is often unnecessary
Then argue against each change individually based on logic, not the fact that you're naturally inclined to like the past more.

>>87827417
>in what universe do you live in where nostalgia is at all conducive to discussion and progress?
The most decisive and prevalent instance I can think of is when prohibition was repealed.
Not all change is good or beneficial. A lot o it is experimental.

>this is some major fedoraspeak and has literally never been done
It's been done plenty of time. There's a reason fads are fads; it's because they're the kinds of change that lack substance.

>Yeah. In a forward direction.
Not always.

>>87827503
>Hyperbole
>Exaggeration
You don't have a leg to stand on. Totally devastated. Your defeat is total and absolute.

But speaking of Horses, at least Horses would be cheaper and we wouldn't be destroying our own environment with them.

>>87821833
The idea is that Donald Trump is riding off the Reagan-era nostalgia.

Again, Memberberries aren't a very good argument. It's like the retarded arguments you read online where someone is talking about something old and an idiot butts in with "OH YEAH WELL REMEMBER RACISM? YOU'RE A RACIST."

Because, again, comparing everything of the past to bigotry is the new tool in the liberal bag of tricks.

>>87827540
>Then argue against each change individually based on logic
If you can validate change just on the grounds that the present is boring, then you can validate nostalgia on the grounds that the past was more comfortable.

That's ultimately what this entire discussion boils down to. Little to none of what we consider progressive or nostalgic is based on logic; it's simply based on emotions.

>trump wins
>still sperging about sjws

File: 1380697092809.jpg (42KB, 479x720px) Image search: [Google]

42KB, 479x720px

>>87827556
>You don't have a leg to stand on. Totally devastated. Your defeat is total and absolute.
I'm sure this sounded a lot better in your head, aspie

>thats complete hyperbole!!! fucking strawman!!
>now excuse me while I turn right around and show you that it isnt exaggeration at all

>>87827503
I bet you think that any type of CG looks better than practical effects.

I bet you also bought an Ouya, and think the New 52 is the best run of any DC series.

Why? Because it's new.
Never mind looking to the past for answers about the future. Being a mindless consumer idiot fixated on what is the most futuristic instead of the most practical is the progressive way of thinking.

Keep being an idiot.

>>87827615
sjws are evil

>>87827417
>implying the concept of history and time is nothing but a fabrication created by humanity's own insecurity of our mortality and gradual decay around us caused by molecular atrophy and the inevitable heat death of the universe

>implying you're not a faggot

>>87827592
>If you can validate change just on the grounds that the present is boring, then you can validate nostalgia on the grounds that the past was more comfortable.
Which doesn't mean either is right, assuming by "validate" you just mean "convince people it's the right thing to do", which is different from actually having a solid argument for why it's the right thing to do.

File: that's_you.jpg (42KB, 500x236px) Image search: [Google]

42KB, 500x236px

>>87827628
>mostly greentext post
This is how you know when someone has lost an argument. He will continue to spout greentext until either people quit responding to him or he starts being autistic about something completely unrelated to the original argument.

So what's it going to be today? Are you going to hyperventilate over typos? Or perhaps try to change the argument to literally everything in the past being shitty because you are one edgy contrarian?

File: 1370812936595.jpg (25KB, 500x311px) Image search: [Google]

25KB, 500x311px

>>87827634
>Because you <X thing I dont like>
>I bet you <Y thing I also dont like, implied to be bad>
>and I bet you <Z thing I also dont like, implied to be bad>

This is what a complete lack of an argument looks like.

>>87827628
>Fedora tip meme
>Autism meme spout
>Greentexting things the other person never said
I accept your surrender.

>>87827644
/r/atheism, is that you?

>>87825604

> I saw a video of someone who set up a fresh firefox install on a virtual machine, went to youtube to show the suggestions were random and innocuous, made one post on /pol/, and then went to back youtube and had several neo nazi videos automatically suggested for him.

Jesus fucking christ. I knew that youtube/google would give you suggestions based on your search history but your POST history? That's a bit scary. Even though I know about this stuff, it's still frightening as hell watching this shit in action.

>>87827772
>Jesus fucking christ. I knew that youtube/google would give you suggestions based on your search history but your POST history?
It was still his search history. Apparently just visiting /pol/ is enough to flag you as a Neo Nazi because of how many of them made that board their home.

File: mundo-nova-3k-2.jpg (44KB, 960x480px) Image search: [Google]

44KB, 960x480px

>>87827503
Do you drink from a cup instead of a mag-lev Nova 3K?
Because if you don't. Then you just proven that tried and true methods are generally superior to things trying to be innovative for the sake of it.

I doubt you put any thought into that comparison before you made it. How many people do you think rode horses still when the first car was made?

File: 1454643401530.gif (361KB, 327x400px) Image search: [Google]

361KB, 327x400px

>>87827695
>you lost
>I won and you lost
>You lost because of this and this

>>87827716
>You lost
>I accept your surrender because you lost!

What is it about nostalgiafag threads that bring out this level of neckbeardry?

>>87827811
Wow, a cup. I do drink from a cup, anon! You sure got me good! What a winner!

>>87827830
You lost because you didn't provide a counter argument and just posted fat guy in fedora in place of one.
Now you're posting laughing_whore.gif in an attempt to distract from the argument.

Hey what was it I said you would try to do?

> He will continue to spout greentext until either people quit responding to him or he starts being autistic about something completely unrelated to the original argument.
I guess it's time for you to argue about who won and who lost now because holy fuck are you not going to be able to defend the worthless argument you had.

Thank fucking god. There was a half dozen retards at work that did this "remember when" shit for the whole shift. Now maybe they'll find something else to talk about when I throw grapes at them.

>>87827857
That's not a cup. That's a mag-lev Nova 3K.

Do you drink from a cup or a mag-lev Nova 3K?

> I do drink from a cup, anon!
Then you're using a tried and true method.

Why are you such a nostalgiafag? Why don't you own a Nova 3K? Next you'll be riding on horses, grandpa. New stuff is ALWAYS superior.

>>87821732
Well, the great fucking recession might be a good factor as to why the late 2000's were shit but I got a feeling you weren't even an adult during that time period.

>>87821558
It's a good thing Saying "Member when..." gets you banned on /his/

>>87821558
>Nostalgia is bad and you should feel bad for liking it
>everyone in this thread gets mad when a newfag appears
/co/ - hypocrites

>>87827962
It does? Based fucking mods.

>>87827830
All you're doing is embarrassing yourself further. You could not possibly be more upset and desperate. You just look like a screeching meme spouting redditor who can only communicate with memes and reactions.

File: critical bluff failure.png (151KB, 902x573px) Image search: [Google]

151KB, 902x573px

It's just the Dialectic

Thesis, Anti-thesis, Synthesis.

In many ways this election is a step forward

File: 91mV8Rpt8ML.jpg (705KB, 1660x2504px) Image search: [Google]

705KB, 1660x2504px

'Member when the past was used to help guide the future? 'Member when forgetting the past doomed you to repeating it?

>>87827297
MEMBA WHEN THERE WAS ONLY 150 POKEMON?
SUUURE YOU MEMBA

>>87828010
Are you saying that /co/ is either a hive-mind or one person?

Here's the problem - Matt and Trey backed the wrong horse

If Hillary won you'd be praising them and the message would feel more true to life

Blame /pol/ for fucking with the timeline

File: This_nigga_thinks_he_can_ruse_me.png (183KB, 249x308px) Image search: [Google]

183KB, 249x308px

>>87821558

>everyone watches South Park

It's not 2001, anon, they are nowhere near that relevant.

>>87821558
The heroes we need

File: 39117665.jpg (1MB, 1200x675px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1200x675px

>>87828159
And the only reason it is relevant at all is because of current event topical writing. As such, these episodes will become less and less relevant the older they get, and will be hard to watch for people who don't know what was going on at the time the episode aired.

File: It was Trump all along.jpg (267KB, 2048x1540px) Image search: [Google]

267KB, 2048x1540px

>>87827562

I like your strawman arguments, anon, you have what it takes to be a true, bonafide, internet debater.

>>87825096
What's the point of being objective if you don't contribute to the conversation. If you just,stop at "both sides are dumb lol" your not doing anything.

>>87826452
I think he means how it's considered sexual to see a naked body on TV even without a sexual context.

>>87828296

But he did get away with it. Hes gonna be the president

>>87827400
Change is literally the only thing holding back the heat death of the universe.

Entropy, nigga.

If you aren't changing, you deserve falling into thermodynamic equilibrium that much sooner.

>>87827811
>if it ain't broke, don't fix it mindset
People like you are why do don't already have colonies on Mars.

>>87827811
If I could find out what the hell that thing is i would probably buy it. Seems better than a plastic cup. Find out what aspects of change you,don't like so you can make a more appropriate analogy.

>>87828260
Yet people who have no idea about the topical stuff in early seasons love them.
I've even seen someone recommend Jakovosaurus as one of the best SP episodes in a thread, an entire episode making fun of Jar Jar.

>>87829333
Aren't we about to have one tho?

>>87828850

Doesn't stop the other parts from being true.

>>87828665
Do other countries have nudity in shows/movies that isn't supposed to be sexual or humorous? I remember the show girls where the ugly actress gets naked all the time for no reason, is that common in europe?

>>87824977
I get your logic but think it this way:

If a society would be created entirely on the principals of survival of the fittest by rewarding the rich and punishing the poor (even if they were born to the financal predictiments), it would initially gain an upstart. However, it would later collapse as the rich children, gradually growing stupider from pampered lives, would forget how to run an economy or govenment in any feasible way while the poor, having become eternal wage slaves who barley have any time to even learn about academics, could do nothing to keep it from happening.

That is why government isn't always the bad guy, it's designed to allow for a moving of people up and down the social ladder based on how they perform from their births, not just how rich their families are.

>>87822129
Popular 80s and 90s movies were in large garbage, like they are now, but at least they're pretty garbage.

Music was better if you ignore all the bad music

Gays have always existed, they were just secretly fucking your dad in parks instead of having an app

Blacks literally had the black panther movement

Women didn't have better attitudes they've always been complaining, it's just they have different words for it now. Instead of complaining about broke men not providing for them as society demands, they're made at society's demands and the men who follow it.

>>87828067

I think you mean 152.

File: kojima warned us.jpg (2MB, 1080x1200px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 1080x1200px

>>87824767
>>87824889
>>87825368
>>87825604

Daily reminder that Kojima warned us and we're paying the price for not listening.

File: nostalgia-goggles.png (143KB, 459x483px) Image search: [Google]

143KB, 459x483px

>>87821558
>Congratulations South Park. You've effectively trivialized any statement that begins with "remember when...?" and permanently turned nostalgia as a concept into something to be ridiculed.

>South Park was the first to criticize nostalgia

>>87825096
you're right

both sides of genocide are dumb lol.

>>87831615
yeah, also first to make fun of Bush, liberals, and jews.

>>87822060
That was what they were saying though. That it was mediocre and bland. Not that it was terrible.

>>87821558
Man member when that actor was elected to become president?

>>87822539
>witch hunts
>2010's

'Member when we had real witch hunts? With actual hangings? Not whatever these pussies in the 2010's were doing.

>>87824922
>Same way MRAs
Uh huh, okay then.

>>87821558
>permanently turned nostalgia as a concept into something to be ridiculed
People on the Internet already did that at least over a decade ago.

>>87821558
>>87821906
>>87822076
The point that Matt and Trey are making, from what I can tell, is that the problem is with people that idolize the past and forget the bad shit.

That berry in the last episode illustrated it pretty clearly:
>Member Stormtroopers?
>Oh, I member!
>gets shot
>No, the REAL stormtroopers. the old ones.
When people think of storm troopers, they think of starwars, a positive thing of the past.
But there's also the literal fucking German stormtroopers.
People tend to only focus on the good of the past and not all the other shit because the present shit is just "so much worse" when really, most of the modern shit is less shit than the past shit.

The present may suck, but the past sucked too. And the future will probably suck as well.
But if you want to go back to the previous suck, then you're guarenteed the same suck.
Instead, the future suck could be anything. It could be worse, but it could be better. It's better to take that chance than to wallow in what you know sucks.

'member when South Park threads were actually about the show and not just shitty politics? I 'member

>>87834818
I thought Matt and Trey always get political with their works? They're basically opinion pieces designed to entertain. This season they forgot that last part though.

>>87825307
I've seen far more people saying that mockingly than actually arguing for it.

>>87821558
>permanently turned nostalgia as a concept into something to be ridiculed

It always was

>>87821895
>Progressism.
that one was a thing ever since the 1960s

>>87822539
>Politics
ALWAYS sucked
>witch hunts
1950s
>suicide bombing
was a thing since the 1970s
>anti-sex culture
1950s

>>87821558
GOOD

You know, "Members Only" was actually super lame. I'll cut them some slack for "Oh, Jeez," but the first true post-election episode was weak.

I guess they really, truly bet big on Clinton winning, and now that she hasn't this season's plot has been gutted.

You want to know what they trivialized? People like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pa6SGYWADU

Literally people who do this shit all fucking day. I know there are a bunch of nostaligafags in here calling everyone edgy, but honnestly not everyone's future sucks so much ass that they have to focus on the "good ol' days" to enjoy life.

Any kind of reminiscing of, "Hey remember in that old movie that one joke? Haha yeah that was rad." was never the issue. It's making that reminiscing that should only last one conversation every now and again when you have to talk about fun times, and turning it into a central conversation piece when you could talk about so much more. Also to top it off this is a side handed slap at movie makers who are too god damn lazy to make an original fucking thought and run the risk of failure and so they just stay on the safe side with already established ideas and IP that already exists and people enjoy so they can try to coast on an easy success like it takes skill somehow.

So unlike you are like video related, stop being so fucking offended. Go reminisce all you want, but making it your identity and your soul conversation topic makes you a fucking boring ass clown with nothing new to talk about ever unless a shitty reboot is in the works.

>>87835323
But it's an awful anti-sex culture to be fair. Conversative anti-sex culture where everything was to be done behind closed doors and not in fucking public and to not objectify yourself into a walking piece of ass so people will hit on you so you can get random cock.

Now it's liberal anti-sex culture where everything is rape and can actually carry a lengthy and annoying word of mouth battle with the police and possible legal battle and they decide that half way through fucking that what's going on is rape. You know what you got in the 50s? Some judgmental looks and gossip if you dressed in a non-conservative way. Soical scorn > false accusations of a crime.

>>87834434
>hangings
That's still pretty mellow compared to the crazy shit they did in the OLD old witch hunts.
Kids these days are probably less likely to be tortured to death for no reason than ever before in the history of man.

>>87835420
or, you know, being called a Commie and have your life ruined
kinda like now

the ideology has changed, the methods remain the same

people care about south park?'

it's 2016

>>87824536
....while respecting human rights, due process, and law in general

MAGA

>>87835420
What anti-sex culture?

You can still have sex. You can have lots of it, all the time. It's an anti-uggo culture. Ugly, unsuccessful guys are not allowed to have sex.

Welcome back to the chimpanzee days. Bananas are $2 each.

>>87835504
The problem is, if someone screams commie you gotta have proof they are. Sure that might cause A LOT of problems but if you aren't a commie, then in the end you are free.

If you are fucking someone mid way and they decide it's rape and go to the police after the encounter for a rape kit, that's it. Then it becomes a battle of he-said she-said if they decide to listen to the male's point of view. If you ever get that chance.

>>87835526
human rights were a mistake

>>87835560
Oh shut the fuck up and go back to /r9k/ you fucking idiot.

>>87821558

Nostalgia should be ridiculed. It's fine to look back on the younger years of your life and think about all the fun times you had and whatnot, but wallowing in those memories and trying to recapture them in an attempt to relive your youth make you a dumbass.

Same goes for consuming media. Ironically, South Park itself is ripe for the kind of nostalgia that the show itself now wants to mock. We have all these movies and TV shows based on media properties we watched as children and grew attached to as teens and young adults. Pop culture references to the '80s and '90s are abundant - shit, Stranger Things is basically a watchable form of '80s nostalgia.

And if you want to wallow in that kind of nostalgia, go right ahead. It's your right. But the more you cling to that security blanket, the faster you're gonna wear it out.

>>87835560

>What anti-sex culture?

To conservatives (especially religious conservatives), any sex outside of marriage is "dirty" and "immoral". Consensual sex between two adults who aren't married is, to conservatives, as much of a "sin" as rape.

>>87821931
Every decade is obsessed with nostalgia. In the 90s you had movies about the 70s. In the 70s you had movies about the 50s. People have always remade or ripped off things they liked when they were younger.

>>87835586
both were kinda same

>>87835638
and to liberals, any sex between a man and a woman is rape

both parties can be pretty fucked-up

>>87835698

>and to liberals, any sex between a man and a woman is rape

Not really. All of the liberals I know are fine with sex, casual or otherwise, so long as it's completely consensual. You're probably thinking of radical feminists like Dworkin or whatever the fuck her name was.

>>87835638
>To conservatives (especially religious conservatives), any sex outside of marriage is "dirty" and "immoral".

Not really. All of the conservatives I know are fine with sex, casual or otherwise, so long as it's completely consensual. You're probably thinking of radical republicans like Mike Pence or whatever the fuck is name was.

>>87835754

>All of the conservatives I know are fine with sex, casual or otherwise, so long as it's completely consensual.

Is that why they're the ones so obsessed with pushing abstinence-only sex education on schools?

>>87835801
>Is that why they're the ones so obsessed with pushing abstinence-only sex education on schools?
They don't.

I have more anecdotal evidence to show you if you still haven't figured out why your argument fails.

>>87835716
>>87835754
I see what you did there

>>87835801
then why do the liberals insist on "Listen and believe" and "evidence is oppressive" ?

>>87821679
>bluepilled

This is how to remove any credibility from one's post.

>>87821784
This is a severely underrated post.

>>87835856

Conservative lawmakers are always the ones to push abstinence-only education to protect "the purity" of children.

>>87835885

They don't. The general idea is "trust but verify". Trust when a woman says she's been sexually assaulted, but verify the story with an actual investigation and evidence. If there isn't enough evidence to verify the story, there's no legal leg to stand on - and if evidence proves the accuser is lying, there's no moral leg to stand on, either.