>Party foul! this movie was so fucking bad I really really

>>87770667
Still better than the MCU.

>>87770667
Every single DC movie has been rotten, while even the worst of Marvel (Thor and Hulk) have been fresh. DC is never getting a good movie.

>>87770667
It was fine.

>>87770667
>Harley acts like Harley.
Oh no.

>>87770701
DC is never getting a critically acclaimed movie*

All DC movies have been good to ridiculously great. BvS>MoS>SS

I assume Wonder Woman will be slightly below MoS but JL could surpass BvS if done properly.

Will critics ever admit their mistake? Or will they double down and spew hate for WW before they even see it?

>>87770762
witness the snydercuck in its natural habitat: wallowing in a pit of self delusion

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>>87770696
>>87770701
>>87770762


>All DC movies have been good to ridiculously great.

Fucking patethic, at least MCUfags on /co/ dont act so uptigh over their movies being "ridiculously great", they just mock DC movies for being shit.

>>87770701
Yeah but that's not the actual scores, which is why I always hate RT
They're one of the most popular review sites and they're the only one that show review % not review average so most people assume it is review average.

>>87770667
So has the BR been released or why are we getting a second wave of "your movie is shit"?

>>87770794
No plot holes, not monochromatic, great characterizations, great stories. Why are you trying to push this meme?

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>>87770762
>Will critics ever admit their mistake? Or will they double down and spew hate for WW before they even see it?

>>87770813
the extended version came out tuesday

>>87770815
When are you going to stop this meme?

>>87770815
>great characterizations, great stories
eh. But yeah, the fact they aren't so gloomy is the main advantage they have.

>>87770845
I am a Trumpfag, and I am offended for him to be compared to that piece of shit of a flick.

Fuck you.

>>87770794
Based Del Toro.

And I agree, although sometimes even Marvel tries to do something different and widen their comfort zone.
All of the Captain America movies have done a good job of switching things up and trying some new stuff.

>>87770860
You're right. When I get home I will copy and paste two scenes into one image to prove that the movies aren't "monochromatic." It's that simple. Then that guy will be discredited forever.

>>87770667
>female lead in a post-2012 world
No matter whether it's good or not, it's a guaranteed Fresh score on Rotten Tomatoes

>>87770877
BvS is better than Trump, kiddo. Get over it.

>>87770905
This is true.

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>>87770845
Donald doesn't deserve that. At least he's entertaining to watch.

It's always funny to me that no one can legitimately defend SS because it's not by Snyder and it doesn't have any sense of "intellectual content" to meme over.

It's just bad and even Snyderfags always put it last on the last after BvS and MoS but then have to tack on

>b-but its still better than the MCU

>>87770877
I'm happy that Trumpfags finally know what it's like to be Pro-Obama. You like the guy but everywhere you look people just want to talk shit.

I unironically thought that leto's joker was going to be a brainwashed Jason todd or something because he was such a god awful joker. Watched the whole film and I realized the awful truth.

>>87770870
Yeah the characterizations being good or bad are basically subjective. That shouldn't be a part of the analysis anyway, just if the actors played their role properly to the characterization they were given.

E.g. an actor playing a serious role in a goofy manner would be bad if that wasn't intended. Seems to me like the actors all played their roles the way they were intended to be played. Whether or not someone likes that is another issue altogether.

>>87770888
Kek, I already saw the scenes that you always post.

>ocean scene
>vs doomsday laser fight scene
>batman going to kill Snyderman scene

While failing to notice that:

>entire screem is green
>entire screem is organge

While 85% of the movie the entire screem is gray or brown.

You might even say that "300" was a colourful movie. It is all monochromatic and usually desaturated dull, with few scenes of monochromatic over saturated shit.

Look at an Iron Man movie, and you will see a better use of colour pallete, look at the Xmen movies, and you will see the same, look - again - for Hellboy, and you will see a fantastic work with colours.

Keep trying kiddo.

>>87770954
I feel like you need only look at Eisenberg's performance as Meme Luther to see that Snyder isn't interested in directing actors.

Any other director would have bitchslapped the guy and told him to cut it out.

>>87770920
I like SS.

It was dumb, colorful and explodey.

I even think they nailed the characters, including Deadshot.

Come at me.

>>87770954
>Yeah the characterizations being good or bad are basically subjective.

Even people working at WB said that they fucked up for making "Nolan Batman" with Superman.

>>87770920
>It's always funny to me that no one can legitimately defend SS because it's not by Snyder
Well yeah. Snyder cares a LOT and Ayer didn't seem to care as much.

Subsequently, the impact the movie had was a lot lesser. That doesn't mean it was unwatchably bad though.

>>87770989
"Monochromatic" means the entire movie is one color, not scenes are mostly one color (even specific scenes have other colors in them so that doesn't work either).

Having scenes be mostly one color is a good thing that causes the scene to become more vibrant. Just because you don't understand proper film technique doesn't mean you can say it's bad.

>>87770999
No, that was intended. Just like the first time Luthor was made into a business man he changed the way he did things, by modernizing Lex he also had to change the way he did things.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=RslcETyE2ec

>>87771013
Snyder cares a lot about showing edgyvision by unscrupulously exploting iconic characters despite fact that he don't know shit about them.

>>87770920

It was a pretty great movie, great visuals, colors, dialogue, music, EL DIABLO, Harley, bringing the sexy back in super hero movies, violent shitty characters as leads instead of witty boy scouts like in Marvel Disney ''His worst crime is that he is a douche!''

Yes, the movie used too much popular music during thr first 30 minutes, but beyond that is a pretty good action film.

>>87771079
>Just like the first time Luthor was made into a business man
what

>>87771095
>edgy
No.

He also knows way more about the characters than you do, apparently.

>>87771053
>"Monochromatic" means the entire movie is one color, not scenes are mostly one color

Are you autistic?

>>87770762
>Will critics ever admit their mistake? Or will they double down and spew hate for WW before they even see it?

Comic books have never been for "film people", we like action, power fantasy, violence, and craziness that could never happen in real life

This doesn't appeal to anybody who fancies themselves as a "film critic", somehow Marvel has pandered to the masses....not comic fans, and now the masses fancy themselves comic fans which they are not in any way

This is why MCUcks are so defensive and basically spam this board, they've attached themselves to this new identity of "geek sheek" and they need to justify the Captain America shield tattoos they got and Iron Man T's despite only learning of the characters in the 2010s

Eventually, these people will get over it when the whole "geek sheek for normie" thing stops being trendy and movies like BvS will be looked back at by the real fans as being underrated classics and movies like Iron Man 3 and Thor will be looked at as embarrassing soulless garbage shat out the mouse, not Marvel

>>87771053
If it looks like shit, it's shit. Don't need to understand technique to know what I do not like.

>>87771123
Yeah, right.
>It will be cool to rape Batman in jail, you know...like....i mean...yeah......it's like.....mm...you know....i'm sayn.....that heroes talking in costumes are stupid.....you know......like.......i mean.......Batman shots people all the time right??....well......just read DKR!....he shots tons of people you know!

>>87771101
>colors, dialogue, music, harley, violent shitty characters

>>87770920
SS is pretty shitty. I thought it was going to be like Ostrander's run but instead it was just an assault on my eyes and my ears. It wasn't even a good dumb action movie. But people will defend it anyways because it's DC.

>>87771079
And that meant overacting the shit out of every single scene to the point where it felt like an awful Saturday Night Live sketch had invaded the movie?

Bad acting is bad acting, anon.

>>87771176
>geek sheek
lmao

>>87771123
He DID kill Jimmy Olson to set the tone.

@87771176

Cheap bait, Snyderfag.

But is funny that Snyderfags can never stop talking about Marvel, when other movie franchines with heroes are show to be waaaay better than both - >>87770794


They create this patethic execuse that you can only make movies on two ways:

>marvel way
>Snydershit way

And try to shame anyone that dont eat their speciphic taste of shit.

>We gonna make first movie about bad guys!
>Cool!
>....
>WE WUUZZZ HEROZZ AN SHIT
>YOU'RE MUH FAMILY
>I'M BEAUTIFUL xDxD
>ROSE UNICORN xDxD
>I'M GONNA BEAT YA WITH BAT! XD
>HONKA HONKA

>>87771079

> by modernising Lex he also had to change the way he did things.

By making him an autistic lunatic who literally can't hold his spaghetti in public while also being a mastermind who can plan Swiss-watch revenge plots over multiple years.

The man literally has an entirely different motivation in every scene he opens his fat mouth.

>but that was the point

It doesn't matter, within the context of the story it failed at making him a compelling villain . Just because you can grasp the point of a scene doesn't mean it succeeded, no matter how many times you people try and pretend every person who dislikes BvS somehow doesn't' "get it" as though that's literally the only way your movie can be disliked.

The BvS fans really need to stop pretending "That's the point" is a bulletproof defence that makes their movie immune to criticism. I could intend to shit my pants, that doesn't make it a worthwhile use of my time.

>>87771178
>lying

Or just bad opinion. It looks great. If you're blind then you're blind.

>>87771179
>meme argument
Hey let me just take a bunch of out of context quotes and use them as proof! Snyder has said before that he's a fan of Superman. So which Snyder is the real Snyder? Are there two of them like the two Donald Trumps theory?

>>87771227
He said that he did it because "was funny".

>By making him an autistic lunatic who literally can't hold his spaghetti in public

I know right?

Funny part, is that Snyderfags pretend that things can only be modernized if they are like what he did! Ignoring that Lex from multiple comics of the last years, is modernized and way better than what we got.

>>87771176
>geek sheek

yeah buddy, sound that shit out

>>87771253
>he's a fan of Superman
Wew, son. You can be fan of Superman and don't know shit about him at the same time, you know? He probably fan of Millerverse Supes and Injustice one. (you know it's true)

>>87771253
His meme argument is better than your non-argument on what looks good. lol why are DC cucks actively defending their shit films?

>not calling out a party foul
Bunch of dweebs

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>Well, we almost pulled it off. Despite what everybody thought.
>We weren't picked to succeed, you know that right? We were all chosen to fail
>Yeah, I know that. Worst part of it is they're gonna blame us for the whole thing. They can't have people knowing the truth. We're the patsys, the cover-up. Don't forget, we're the bad guys.


was the fresh prince being meta here

>>87771253
>Or just bad opinion. It looks great.

Nah, it looks awful, it is unimaginative and doesnt go well with the character.

Because of that WB had to say sorry for the comic book fans, after all, according to them, nort every super hero needs to be Batman.

>Snyder has said before that he's a fan of Superman

Please mate, Snyder "gets" Superman, as much as Shamalaia "gets" Avatar or who made Dragonball Evolution "get" Dragonball. Snyder just sound autistic and objectivist. We are lucky that he will be banned by Warner once he finishes JL.

>>87771322
Kek, the influences of Injustice are so obvious, I cringed when I saw that post apocaliptic scene.

>>87771359
>why are DC cucks

Please, dont mix DC fans, with Snyderfags.

Real DC fans know that he is shit. DCEU needs their own REBIRTH.

>>87771195
>overacting
No.

>>87771244
>By making him an autistic lunatic
Saying these things won't make them true.
>who literally can't hold his spaghetti in public
Under certain circumstances which are in-line with his character. You're too retarded to see that. You're not the only person in the world who gets to decide how characters should be.

>The man literally has an entirely different motivation in every scene he opens his fat mouth.
Prove it then. Prove that his overall motivation changes.

>it failed at making him a compelling villain
Wrong. Saying it won't make it true.

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@87771400
Are you actually autistic? You writte like somone who is autistic.

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Of course the animated one was better.

>>87771393
What if I'm both

>>87771435
Nice argument, buddy. You know that means you lose right?

>>87771393
Rebirth is shit.

>>87771400

>Unironically pulling the WELL IT'S NOT A FACT defense

I'm sorry anon, should I put "In my opinion" in front of every sentence like an 8th grader writing a book report?

>>87771451
Dude, your entire argument is "NO, I AM RIGHT, IT IS GOOD".

>>87771464
Typical Snyderfag.

>>87771371
You keep saying words that don't line up with reality. You can say "I'm not on fire" while on fire but reality isn't going to change according to your words.

Go ahead and believe your alternate reality, you schizophrenic.

>>87771448
You can't be. You either fan of DC universe or fan of edgeverse.
>>87771464
Rebirth is best thing happened to comics in last 5 years.

>>87771472
>should I put "In my opinion" in front of every sentence

In this case yes because "I didn't like it" isn't the same as "it's bad." You didn't like it, whatever. But saying it's bad just because you didn't like it is a lie.

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>>87770667
>I really really hope Wonder Woman is good

You're hoping for entirely too much. If WB can't make a good movie with BATMAN, then how the fucking hell are they supposed to do lesser characters like Wonder Woman? And Gal Gadot was a terrible choice, she can barely speak English so her acting is like Arnold Schwarzenegger or Jackie Chan

Might as well forget this crap was ever even made and start really really hoping that Justice League will be okay. Because I've got a feeling Wonder Woman is going to be Green Lantern tier bad

>>87770667
>The Donald Trump of comics

Why didn't they just start off as Glass did in his run?

>Have to kill everyone in a football stadium because they have a virus.
>Then they have to track who made the virus and take him out. Have it be someone like Penguin who was selling it to a foreign government or group.
>Replace Killer Croc with King Shark.

>>87771495
We'll except for the magic users in DC, everything else is superb though. Hellblazer is utter shit right now.

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>>87771491
Nice argument.

>>87771511
Not him but....if people who criticize cant say that it is bad.......how you can say that it is good?

>>87771538
Well, Constantine is awesome in "Six pack and dogwelder"

>>87771578
Should I pick that up? I heard it's amazing and hilarious

>>87771611
You know, man. I never was fan of "too comic staff". But after reading Hitman, I've read this. Damn, it's simply one of the best runs of DC right now.

>>87771523
Because that'd be decent and what I was vaguely expecting

>>87770794
how can you say dc has poor characterisations but then put Hellboy on a pedestal when its undeniably worse?

You're an idiot you know that?

>>87771745
It is literally written, that they are still enjoyable and interesting while being their own thing.

Unlike some movies...

>>87771745
Because while hardass Krauss is isnt as good as insecure Krauss, he is still great.

While Abe as melancholic psychic foil of Hellboy isnt as good as soldier melancholic Abe, he is still a enjoyable character.

You see what is your problem now?

>>87770845
>comparing based Trump to that grimdark bloated piece of shit "superman sequel"
kys

>>87771914
But the basis of whether or not a character is enjoyable is based on how close it is to the comic incarnation ONLY for DC, right? Why is there such a double standard against DC films?

>the character is bad
>Why?
>not muh
>but you like X despite it not being the same
>well yeah because it's good!

What kind of weird meme logic is this? The whole basis of the character being "bad" is due to "not muh" for DC but people still are allowed to like other characters that aren't the same as their comic counterparts? How is that fair?

>>87771268
Lex ended up being great, its different from the comics but his core elements are there like despising god like figures.

>>87771994
>But the basis of whether or not a character is enjoyable is based on how close it is to the comic incarnation ONLY for DC, right?

No you autistic bitch.

First, because nobody said that was the only basis of it, actually, it adress this.

See? You have to made up scenarios because you have no arguments. I for example, like Leto Joker and Boomerang, even if they deviates from the comic versions on some aspects.

This is why it is written that despite being different, it doesnt add anything as good to take its place.
Try another thing next time.

>What kind of weird meme logic is this?

There is a thing called different degrees of good/bad writting and execution.

You autisticaly act like "if you like a thing, you should like other", while ignoring execution and writting.

>>87772001
>Lex ended up being great

"This fucking guy might be the worst comic book villain of all time. Nothing about him makes sense, his personality changes from scene to scene, he's terminally obnoxious - for some reason we never find out what he's about or even what his company is for when he's not doing bad guy stuff. And despite the fact that his actions drive the entire plot we never get an answer to why hes doing any of it... at some points it feels like Luthor and the Joker were supposed to be in the movie, then they mashed the two together and didn't change anything,"

Lex ended up being fucking awful, anon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTKDtoBR-2M

>>87771994
You can make a character different and still good.

Doc.Ock from Spiderman 2? Great.
Snyder lame edgeverse? Stupid. He is on the same tier as that Superman with a white beard and a giant gun, in terms of lame characterization.

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>>87772222
>Trips followed by quads.

It is a fact them. Mostly Snyder characters suck, apart from Batman, that was entirely rewritten by Afleck - and even them he suffered from plot induced stupidity.

Snyderfags on suicide whatch.

>>87772208
>Movieblob
That has to be a falseflag.

>>87772222
>Doc.Ock from Spiderman 2? Great.
That was the utter definition of hackery and being a professional character butcher....Otto is a dick simply because he is, he's a fatass fucking nerd who chooses bitterness over becoming a better person and uses his genius for evil rather than good, that's what makes him a good Spider-Man villain

Spider-Man 2 (there's a dash in there, retard) makes Otto another generic "sympathetic" guy driven mad, and in the most retarded fucking way.....his tentacles literally talked to him, that was fucking stupid. Superman was not edgy in DCEU, you 15-20 year old dumbshits just throw around that term without knowing what it means.

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>>87772278
>he doesn't agree with me so it's bait

Doesn't matter where the review is from, it doesn't change the fact that Luthor is an obvious attempt to copy The Dark Knight's theme of having the chaotic villain use the power of fucking shenanigans to pit one part of the cast against the other. The only difference is The Dark Knight executed it well enough to be one of the best capeshit movies ever, and BvS flopped with it so hard its not even funny.

>>87772349
>Snyderfags hate Spider-man 2 and Otto

Holy shit, and I thinking that your taste couldn't get worse.

>>87772367
Faggot, I hate Eisenberg's Luthor but using that fat sack of shit as an argument is a proof that you're either an idiot or purposefully trying to make everyone who thinks Eisenberg is shit look bad.

>>87772454
I like Otto, which is why I don't like Spider-Man 2 /tv/faggot

And I don't even know who Snyder is, or rather, I've never seen a single movie of his that I knew was his other than Batman v Superman, or MOS, or whichever one he did

I'm not a theater faggot, I don't care about this shit, I know Raimi simply because I like horror and I know he's a hack

>>87772349
So, being a shitty character makes him a good villain. Got it.

>>87772565
Right, because the value of the opinion is negated by its source. This is the exact type of mindset that has normies worshiping Rotten Tomatoes as law, the exact mindset you fags claim to hate so much.

>>87772575
I hate to break it to you, but everyone who makes horror movies is a hack because horror is the worst genre to ever exist, even worse than capeshit.

>>87772593
>comic otto is shit
>raimi otto is good

Movie fags people, /tv/ has infiltrated this board and these fucking poseurs have ruined it

>>87772615
>argues about his favorite comic book movies pretending to be a comic fan
>argues that he hates capeshit a post later

Movie fags people, /tv/ has infiltrated this board and these fucking poseurs have ruined it

>>87770989
>>87771053
300 wasn't monochromatic since the Spartans had those red capes contrasting with everything in nearly every scene.

>>87772618
Snyderfag, you are the only /tv/ here.

>>87772639
>bichromatic

You are right, mostly brown people/scenary/weapons and red for the cape. I actually liked it on 300, on the DCEU it is stupid.

>>87772607
It is when the source is a complete moron.
Citing Moviebob is like hiring an exhibitionist hobo to sell your goods. He may actually do a good job once in a while, but he's still a smelly hobo who likes to whip his dick out.

Using anything but your own thoughts is awful, it's "I'll post the opinion of someone who agrees with me, that means I'm right" is ironically the mindset you're decrying..

>>87772640
Poseur
I hope your Spider-Man 2 tattoo matches your undercut and thick rimmed glasses, and I hope you feel awkward everytime someone tries to have a conversation with you about comics you clearly don't know about you fucking poseur

>>87772629
I'm not even that anon, just find it weird that someone would call someone a director a hack while liking horror, the genre maintained solely by hacks.

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>>87772687
Posting the opinion of someone who agrees with me is easier than having to explain in every daily thread why DC is a failure and why its fans are delusional. You don't have to agree blindly with everything your source puts out just because you cited one of his opinions, nor do you have to be hipster and try to make your opinion a special snowflake when your opinion is the same opinion most sane people have: Lex Luthor was a shit part of a shit installment of a shit franchise, and whether its my words or not does nothing to change that.

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>>87772702
I knew that Snyderfags would resort to call Hellboy and Spider-man 2 shit, to defend their shitty movies.

>>87770701
yeah Thor, Ant Man, Strange and even Iron Man 3 are certified fresh
sure i can trust and validate rt and critics!

>>87771491
Why are you talking to yourself?

>>87771451
Literally all of your arguments have been "NO!" "NUH-UH!!" and "NO IT'S NOT!"

Now go take your meds and give your mom her iPad back.

>>87771511
Well in that case keep in mind that "I like it" doesn't mean the same thing as "it's good"

>>87772108
>>87772222
Nice try but you're not going to get away with this deception. The ONLY reason people were saying that the characters were bad was due to "not muh." Even then, it's still wrong because various aspects were taken from the source material and put together rather than changing things at random.

So now that you've changed it from "bad because not muh" to "bad for another reason" you better provide that reason. For ALL the so-called "bad" characters.

>>87771539
>>87773181
These two comments are related.

Obviously liking something won't make it good, and disliking something won't make it bad. How can we tell what's good and bad then?

Here are just a few: visuals, sound, music, acting. Now, acting doesn't here mean if you liked the character or not but whether the actor did the scene how he was SUPPOSED to. Did he deliver the lines properly and in a good way? An example of bad acting would be the Star Wars prequels. Look at how those lines were delivered, even ignoring the terrible dialogue.

Another is through plot and characterization:
Were there plot holes? Were they significant? Antis would say "there were lots of plot holes!" but in actuality it was merely them misunderstanding scenes or forgetting important plot points or characterization.

Characterization is easy: each character has his own personality. If the character were to act in a way that didn't make sense within his character or within the context of the scene then it would be bad. This isn't the same as character growth though, don't confuse someone acting differently in the beginning and end of the movie with bad characterization, since that character could have grown and become different, thus acting in a way he wouldn't normally have if the events of the movie hadn't taken place.

>>87773366
>>87773523
Snyderfag, people said multiple times, multiple times each one of the mistakes on it.

Even WB itself said "sorry", the critics, the audience reviwes, the box office, all point towards some big mistake.

>>87774529
>people said multiple times, multiple times each one of the mistakes on it.
Don't see it. Go ahead and prove it if it's so easy.

>>87771115
luthor wasnt a businessman forever

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hah why even hope .
dude just give up.

>>87774993
Superman will save us! He will return.

>>87770794
>Fucking patethic, at least MCUfags on /co/ dont act so uptigh over their movies being "ridiculously great"

This.

NONE of these films are ridiculously great. None of them are The Third Man or Zerkalo or even, I dunno, fucking TESB tier.

But at least the fucking Marvelfags don't pretend their films are amazing godsends. They don't even pretend films like Thor 2 or IM2 are passable, let alone good, whereas DCfags will white knight for the most puerile shit imaginable.

For fucks' sake go watch some good movies. Arrival is out now, it's pretty good, try it. I guarantee it is far better than any of these flicks you're arguing over. Or just pick up something good from last year. Anything but parroting this insincere crap about how Suicide Squad was anything but fetid shit because it gets your panties in a bunch that some Mahvel films have shiny red tomatoes next to them. It doesn't matter nigga, playing pretend like this won't make the DC films better, just go watch good movies instead.

>>87775349
Nobody wants Man of Murder back.

You know what I'd like to see. I'd like to see them try making a bunch of Planetary films. Not because they're guaranteed to be good, but because you could give them to a cool director, and the big execs that ruined Suicide Squad probably wouldn't care enough about such a small brand name to dip their fingers too far into it.

>>87776197
epin meme bait

You don't matter.

>>87770667
Why it looks like it is the same Snyderfag doing these threads?

>>87771523
because that's stupid
you have shit taste

>>87770794
>>87770696
you faggots know not all the mcu movies are the same right ? lately they haven't been as good but iron man was top tier, so was winter soldier if you want a more recent one. most of them were good or at least ok.

>>87770794
>this pleb post
>trying to push Plebboy this hard
kys

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>>87770667
>Gal Gadot
No, this time next year, DC will be 0 for 5.

>>87771444
No, that was still a piece of shit.

Just a more competent piece of shit.

>>87770918
Just as incoherent and mindless, though.

>>87770794
I hated the fact that Hellboy 2 was 90% shipper bullshit.
And I usually LIKE shipper bullshit.

>>87776240
Probably.

But the people consistently giving these films poor word of mouth and poor reviews matter. They matter a lot to WB, who consider anything less than 1.5 billion a flop at this point, and are getting incredibly buttfrustrated and nervous at their inability to generate that kind of profit.

You don't matter either. In fact, you matter even less, as nothing you say or do will ever sway the overwhelming truth - that the DCEU is total shit.

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>>87770667

I just saw it and even the extended edition has editing problems as bad as BvS theatrical cut, atleast with the BvS ultimate cut, you got what the director intended but its obvious the skwad extended cut is still far from the directors vision.

I remember how the first trailer got me really hyped and it got worse and worse with every trailer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLLQK9la6Go

this is what I wanted damnit, fucking nu-males and muh campy fun-faggots, they even ruin their own safe-space universe, adding quips to dr. strange, taking any chance of getting something different for the first time.

>>87777150
That trailer is god tier. Fuck test audiences.

>>87776837
Actually, there was an article by someone who talked to an WB employee who said they're too busy laughing because of all the money they're making to care.

>>87770845
Say it with me - presidentkino

>>87777618
This must be why they removed all power from Snyder, said sorry to investors and for the public.

>>87777150
anon that doesnt change the fact that the plot was always going to involve enchantress/godess BS

>>87770667

well, this movie was fun.

>>87770877
Seconded.

Reminder that The Joker can't even dress himself without Harley.

I miss the DCAU.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtJNYXFHn4k

>>87774831
And he was better before he was a businessman. Post-Birthright Luthor is better for returning to his roots as a scientist criminal mastermind.

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I don't know why and I can't help it but I loved this movie more than guardians of the galaxy and I really liked guardians, I guess it is because eventhough the guardians were supposed to be murders and criminals, they stil were the disney version of criminials, more like funny anti-heroes. But with suicide squad, it really feels like you are watching a bunch of lunatics and weirdos, who'll you buy their nice moments, yet you know after they tell their sad story and have a nice time together, they'll continue doing fucked up shit, they'll never stop being criminals.

DC movies always feel there was great movie that got fucked up near the end and we got some half-assed attempt to turn a got movie into something it wasn't meant to be.

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>>87770667
>I really really hope Wonder Woman is good just for the sake of the DC brand
Keep hoping.

>>87770667
I really liked the casting, and the acting was for the most part on point.
The problem is that the directing, editing, cinematography, soundtrack, and script was utter shit. There are absolutely no redeemable qualities in any of these areas.

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>>87771194
SS was worth watching once and that's it imo. 6/10 at most, same level as thor 2.

It was really disappointing to see that Assault on Arkham handled SS better than the $300 million budget movie. It didn't feel like a suicide squad movie, nobody was evil, everybody was an anti-hero. All the bad stuff was implied and hidden behind pop songs. It didn't help that they were fighting evil shadow monsters to keep it PG.

El Diablo and spoopy witch waifu were great though. This movie should have been made after most justice league members get a solo movie where you have the time to use some of the characters from SS in minor roles and build them up a little.

>>87779643
>SS
>6/10
That implies the movie was above average. Personally I'd put both SS and Thor2 at a 4/10 for being mostly subpar, but with some hints if entertainment value.

>>87779704

average for most people is around 6 or even 7, which is another reason why scores serve no purpose other than shitposting.

>>87779704
good point anon.

It wasn't bad enough that I hated it or that I felt like my time was wasted, but it also wasn't so bad I was entertained by how laughably shit is is. It had a lot of potential. and a lot of small things were done well. It had some problems that really made the overall movie really mediocre by comparison. So yeah 4 or maybe 5/10.

On the other hand Thor 2 just felt like an excuse to shove Natalie Portman on screen. The concept behind it was so interesting but they spent way too much time focusing on the irrelevant shit when they should have developed the nine realms more and expanded upon the dark elves.

>>87779643
>It didn't help that they were fighting evil shadow monsters to keep it PG
It was rated R tho?

>>87779643
>This movie should have been made after most justice league members get a solo movie where you have the time to use some of the characters from SS in minor roles and build them up a little.

This. Mainly because the first half of the movie is just info dumping. Hey here's everything about these villains! Like em yet? Too bad, here we go!

>>87779951
It was PG-13.

>>87776345
>he doesn't like Hellboy
>he unironically uses kys
>>>/qa/

>>87772887
You could shit on a plate and they would still lick it up just because it has the DC logo on it. And it's been proven three times now.

Suicide Squad was pretty terrible. It's not that they went so far away from the comics; other movies in the past have shown you don't have to be a faithful adaptation to be a good film-it's that they made so many stupid decisions that it really would've been better for them to just adapt the arc with the Jihadists panel by panel.

>>87779643
what you mean you didn't watch the movie and see them do evil shit like double cross their partners
punch women
or threaten women
or even say they kill women and children

You idiots literally don't like the movie because of some pop songs that's pathetic

Yeah it was, but what can you expect from people who raped Superman?

>>87781364
Actually Deadshot says he DOESNT kill women and children. Even though we're constantly told these people are villains and shitty people, theres always something that comes along and completely undermines that. They neutered the fuck out of these characters

>>87770701
>Marvel (Thor and Hulk) have been fresh
Holy fuck, just how?
I mean I like them but every DC film has been at least better than those two.
No wonder why we can't have good things.

>>87770667
it's the only bad DCEU movie so far to be fair

>>87782798
Even then it wasn't unwatchably bad. It had a few good moments.

>>87771745
It's simple. The anon who made that image is probably from /tv/ and has never actually read Hellboy.

>>87770667
What exactly does the extended cut add?

>>87779598

someone told me the other day that their mothers name was martha and I laughed in their face and I looked like a psycho, thanks /co/

>>87784944

pretty much just cut dialog, there was only one full flasback scene thats new

>a line where Joker accuses Harley of erasing his memories and leaving him in a dark pit of despair before he electroshocks her, implying she did this to him before
>David Ayre has a cameo has a guard feeding Croc
>Harley actually does spread the word when Deadshot tells her to
>more shots of Croc fighting during the first street fight
>a short scene where Flagg promises to let Deadshot see his daughter if he gets them through this
>another short scene where Flagg points out the building the HVT is in to Deadshot
>flashback scene where Harley chases after Joker on a motorbike and insists on being his gf after he escapes but before her transformation (they cut away before he hits her like he did in leaked set footage)
>a scene where Harley tries to get under the other squad members skin for fun, she tells Croc he has mommy issues and he snarls at her, she tells Katana she has daddy issues and has to hide behind a mask, she takes her mask off and tells her in english "I'm not hiding"
>a few more lines of dialog that were cut from the bar scene
>a few lines between Flagg and Deadshot about how much he loves June Moon (includes him saying he thought love was like UFOs, something people believe in but theres no proof, even though everyone saw a UFO destroying Metropolis lmao)

not the "practically new movie of Joker content!" some had hoped

>>87785129
So no explanation to a lot of the problems like why Boomer runs away and then comes back?

>>87785162

nope, thats still the same

you can tell theres still a lot of cut footage, idk who they dont just say fuck it and release it all, at least in a deleted scenes compilation or something, I'm sure fangirls would love more Joker/Harley material just for the sake of it

>>87770667
>Main character is some skinny nobody that has proven in trailers alone that she can't act for shit
It's gonna be shit anon

>>87770794

Anon, I think the DC movies are shit and the Hellboy movies are pretty great, but you gotta admit they had serious flaws. Chief among them amping up HB's isolation from humanity to story-breaking degrees because muh outsiders and smashing him and Liz together because he's gotta fuck someone.

>>87781487
Thor did the space portal endings first.

>>87781453
>Actually Deadshot says he DOESNT kill women and children.

what's extra retarded about this is out of the four most evil and dangerous people in the movie he needs to just shoot for his own safety THREE OF THEM ARE FUCKING WOMEN

Does she even try to hold the borough accent?

>>87785281
Her Aussie slips in quite a lot

>>87770667
Cape movies were a mistake. There's like 3 decent ones and what? Going on 20-40 bad ones? Fucking end it. Save the brand wars for comics.

>>87779972
For that you need people that are not scrambling to catch up. Maybe if Fantastic Beasts does well they'll go back to Harry Potter and leave DC alone.

>>87785336
Yea heard they didn't give a shit on that front.

Damn

>>87779166

the gaurdians aren't meant to be evil, just assholes, and it's earned at the end when the turn good, unlike sue side squa where the characters have to literally say "stay evil" and "we're bad guys" since they dont do anything that evil despite all being supevillains supposedly

>>87785162
Anon, that's what boomerangs do you nonce

>>87785503
epic meme

The suicide squad movie should have had half the cast for and be about using them to steal gov secrets from a fictional country

>>87785517
Can you please not be mean to me.

>>87785581
Son you're at 4chan

>>87785581
Questions end with a question mark not a period, you mentally challenged ape.

>>87785613
Stop it?

>>87770667
Thanks for Correcting The Record, mousecuck.

I love MoS and BvS - i know, i know - but i fucking hated SS.

The first part was a bit fun, with all the characters being introduced and their interactions, but the actual meat of the movie? WHAT THE FUCK?

This shit is like a bad Power Ranger movie. Who the fuck thought it would be a good idea to have a bunch of mercenaries fight gooey monsters with boring design? Shit was boring as fuck and not even the character interactions could save the movie from that shit. Then the end was just horrible. The whole script there was a mess.

The fact that SS was better received by the general public than MoS and BvS leaves me perplexed.

>>87770794
>Abe is a memeing comedy relief faggot
>Liz is a love interest
yeah, no
fuck the hellboy movies

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>>87770667
I think we can all agree that Doctor Strange was funnier than Suicide Squad.

>>87786557
While funnier and a lot more charming Doctor Strange also suffered from poor direction and sloppy editing.
Other than the very first fight between The Ancient One and Kaecilius all the fights were flat out boring. They didn't use any magic in interesting ways and cuts were for the most part far too fast to enjoy the visuals. Hell, even the final confrontation with Dormammu had no impact because there was no sense of scale to it. They should've tried to make it feel like he was stuck there for more than 30 minutes.

>>87787158
>cuts too fast to enjoy visuals
This has the be the memest thing Tony has ever made people regurgitate

No one has a problem with the Bourne trilogy

>>87770794
>watching films for the "feels"
>liking a film based on how closely it follows the source material

"""""patrician"""""

>>87787165
I can't stand the Bourne trilogy. Shaky cam and fast cuts have ruined action movies.
Thank god for John Wick.

>>87770860
>>87770815
But who's meming who?

>>87785926

Suicide Squad was bland, corporate swill market towards the edgy, hot topic crowd. Said crowd ate it up.

MoS and BvS were unorthodox takes on classic pop culture characters. By their very nature movies like this polarize their built-in audience, leaving their success hinging on how well general audiences accept this new interpretation. It's not at all surprising that SS surpassed them from a popularity standpoint.

>>87787206
SS in the vision of Ayer would have probably blew the shit out of Snyderman.

>>87786240
I liked the Hellboy movies because of Ron Perlman, but yeah they don't have shit on the actual Hellboy comics at all.

>>87770696
Damage Control in full swing today

>>87789437

Just another thread with snyderfags being destroyed

>>87789328
Also, Hellboy II really wasn't all that.

C'mon, guys, can't we all just take a step back and accept the reality that years from now Green Lantern will be recognized as the true cinematic masterpiece that it is? I mean, even Blade Runner and Empire Strikes Back got luke warm receptions, some movies just need time to recognized for their greatness.

>>87791404
Hellboy 2 was pretty shitty, but the visuals for it were incredible at least. Lots of Pan's Labyrinth in that one

>>87770696
It's funny because out of all the DCU movies. SS is the most like an MCU movie, right down to the unremarkable non villain. Plus it ended up being successful at the movies go figure.

Also find it funny that these movies are supposedly so shit yet i am constantly seeing threads about them. Meanwhile Dr Strange just dropped and i barely see threads about it

>>87791601
DC is making movies about their absolute biggest properties where as Dr. Strange is a "who the fuck is that" ballsy move by Marvel to introduce a lesser known character into the mainstream spotlight. And the fact that the DC movies have terrible with plenty of apologist to prevent any clear communal consensus on the fact keeps them prime bait for endless discussion no matter how much time has passed. The only reason no one is defending movies like Jonah Hex or Green Lantern anymore is because they didn't get roped into the DCEU which the apologists feel some need to justify despite it being a largely joyless boardroom approved gimmick to cash in on a movie genre trend.

That's not to say the MCU is high art by any means, but while the DCEU is struggling to convince the general public to give a shit about it's biggest name characters (with no shortage of Bat-brand propping) Marvel is on to breaking ground with B-List characters most moviegoers never really knew where heroes (GOTG, Antman, Dr. Strange, etc). Marvel has its flaws, sure, but they built a cinematic empire from the scraps left over of all the properties other movies studios still had the rights to and reignited a Movie genre that by all rights should have burnt itself out by now.

Like it or not, Marvel is building a brand with the general public and a self-conscious movie studio, that while still profit driven, tries to learn from its mistakes... while DC is still trying to convince you to like theirs by shoving their biggest names to the front of the line and pulling every cliche 2000's movie gimmick they can. I'm honestly surprised they're not trying to shoe-horn batman into Wonder Woman at this point.

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>>87779643
>>87779972
Fucking these.

>>87770794
>Hellboy movies characterization follows source material

I don't dislike the movies, but that's the dumbest thing I've ever read about those movies.

>>87794039
>and when different...

>>87791940
This. I'm not sure how the DCEU has as many supporters as it does, considering that each of the movies have been mediocre to bad so far. Marvel is objectively winning.

>>87794342
"Hillary is objectively winning."

You're in for a rude awakening.

>>87794416
She won the popular vote.

Also I'm not sure why DCEU supporters think that everyone is just going to change their minds about the movies like 20 years from now.

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