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Why shouldn't Superman do this to the Joker? it's much

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Why shouldn't Superman do this to the Joker? it's much less traumatic than the alternative
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>>87655699
Joker is crazy

where is that from?
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Something like that did happen once.
It didn't end well with "Emperor Joker" and all.
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>>87655699
making joker realize he is indeed not real? because that's what happened to luthor.
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>>87655823
I know Morrison loves his meta shit but I really don't think that was the point of that monologue.
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>>87655739
All Star Superman
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Letting Luthor get a taste of Superman's power is one thing, giving it to Joker doesn't seem wise.
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Joker has no empathy. He's a psychopath and it is basically impossible to reach him on that level.

There was that Spectre comic that showed that part of his brain was broken beyond repair.
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>>87655699
Because Luthor has some level of actual human emotion to begin with. And I don't think it would work with a different powerset from All Star.
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>>87655823
>Joker realizes he is fictional
>knows he will never truly die because they will always bring him back at the end
>decides to fuck around more than the usual
>Jokerpool
Oh god, nobody tell DC about this
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>>87655699
Lex did that to himself.
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>>87655699
Because Joker already sees things just like Bruce does, he just processes it diffrent
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>>87655755
Seriously, Emperor Joker has a scene just like this and it causes him to destroy the universe instead of twist and manipulate it. Joker finds lucidity and decides that the universe must be completely destroyed and reborn so that a new world can emerge without people like him in it.
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>>87655981
Which one?
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>>87655699
>it's much less traumatic than the alternative
Superman would never rape the Joker
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>>87655699
I mean, if it doesn't work, you'd have the Joker, with Superman tier powers.
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>>87656229
I don't know. I saw it storytimed on here one time. It was from Osterman's run I think
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Why doesn't the justice league make a super prison like the Marvel heroes?

Batman could keep his rogues in cryo tubes in the depths of the batcave.
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>>87656301
Sorry, meant John Ostrander. John Osterman is Dr. Manhattan.

It's been a long day.
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>>87656400
They've done it several times in Elseworlds, they inevitably break. How many times has the Phantom Zone's criminals broken loose?
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>>87656635
just send Joker to Apokalips.
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>>87656903
You know he'd become one of Darkseid's favorite soldiers.
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>>87656949
and darkseid's soldiers are always betraying and fighting each other.
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>>87656949
With the joker wank , he Will become darkseid
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>>87657019
The Metron Batman fights him.
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>>87655823
That's not what happened to Luthor.
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>>87656006

DELET THIS!!!
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>>87656006
Im pretty sure in canon Joker already knows fictional

It's why he treats everybody like shit, and the basis of his "life has no meanings" nonsense
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>>87655699
Joker will go crazier.
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>>87656006
Joker already knows it. It's one of the misc explanations for why he's so muder happy in post-crisis. Anyone he kills exists solely to die by his hands so it would be a insult to their purpose in life to not kill them.
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>>87656957
Oh man, this scene was great. Got the rest?
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>>87661292
>Tfw the joker is now huey laforet
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>>87655823
Depending on the writer, sometimes Joker is already aware of his own fictional nature.
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>>87656957
I like the idea of Martian Manhunter just going "Joker, for fucks sake, stop being a wanker" and mind controlling him.
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>>87662703
>Oh man, this scene was great
really?
To me it feels badly written, that doesn't feel natural at all how a psychopath who suddenly gets fixed would act, maybe you just like the idea of a "sane for a short amount of time joker"?
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>>87663524
i think it would be funnier if someone were just to tell him "Dude, just stop" and he stops just because of that
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>>87655699
>Why shouldn't Superman give Joker his superpowers?
Gee, I don't know
You tell me
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>>87655699
Best way to defeat the joker is to take awy his sanity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4KifvlSjf4
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>>87663771
Insanity*
silly me
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>>87656214
Well, he's not exactly wrong. Ever since the Dark Age the DCU has been pretty fucked.
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>>87655699
>giving the Joker Superman's powers

Also there's nothing saying that Joker would interpret whatever it is Lex is seeing in the same way.
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>>87663535
>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>dude, fucking shut up
>ok
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>>87656006
So Jared Leto's Joker?
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>>87656400
Arkham already is a super prison.
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>>87656949
Isn't the Joker all about chaos, something that Darkseid is against?
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>>87655699

It wouldn't work. Luthor is evil, but he is Lawful Evil. The Joker probably already sees things this way - he just doesn't care.

>>87655823

No it isn't. It's Luthor, getting a view of reality through Superman's eyes and realizing why he can't be evil. Evil is just a form of blindness or ignorance according to Morrison. It's a recurring theme in his stuff.

>>87664238

Yup.
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>>87663771
I like this Harley honestly
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>>87655739
OP got it from ASS.
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>>87655823
What? No it isn't.
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>>87663528

There was the time he got sane just because he thought he finally killed batman, completely changed character in every way. Was that more of what you were thinking should happen?
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>>87655699
I don't get it. What did Luthor really see?
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>>87664775
He just saw the entire universe, exactly as Superman sees it every single day.

Consciousness itself binds the fundamental forces of the universe [gravitational, electromagnetic, strong nuclear, and weak nuclear] together, and that we're all we've got in this crazy, messed-up universe.
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>>87663535
>My entire life was just a prank to see how much I could do before someone told me to stop. Amazingly, nobody ever did!
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>>87664860
>we've got in this crazy, messed-up universe

What? There are is GOD and an afterlife after this universe. It's af act in the DC universe. Shouldn't Luthor acknowledge the glory of God's creation instead? That would make more sense.
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>>87665007
Read more comics and you'll find that writer's personal philosophies don't always line up with company canon
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>>87665007
Morrison is a hack
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>>87656957
Couldn't superman just superspeed whatever joker's holding away?
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>>87664725
I remember reading that a long time ago, and my one question is why? Why would Joker hate Batman so much to drive him to murderous insanity. I can understand hating something or someone to the point that you drop all your morals just to get the satisfaction of knowing that one thing/person is dead, but why?

Joker starting a normal life with that woman would imply that Joker has the capacity to care, to empathize, and to form genuine interpersonal relationships with people. That, however, is a complete 180* from the psychopath we know him as.

They can be connected, but that's the problem, what connection was there? Or, to put it bluntly, what crime did Joker perceive Batman committing that was worth hating him that much?
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>>87664874

Caligula: the biography.

>>87665114

Nahh. That thing is the Infinity Gauntlet-lite.
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>>87665007
God is either a teenage girl or a fat English guy and his/her biggest contribution to cannon is The Spectre who murderfucks muggers but can't seem to ever kill anyone of significant. He/She and his/her angels got BTFO by a vampire Monitor during Final Crisis.

He's 100 percent correct that humanity only has itself in this crazy mixed up world. The last time heaven interacted with Earth in a big way it was a big fight in a populated city with the Justice League to get Zariel back.

Also no one "created" the DC multiverse. It was the flaw that sprang into existence within Monitor-Mind all on its own. The creator gods that exist on the god sphere are just as "created" as their "creations".
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>>87665141

Not a crime, obsession.

Joker is a broken human being and Batman is seen as the missing pieces of his life and ultimate representation to everything wrong with the world in his eyes. Killing batman 'fixes' everything and he can move on.

At least that's the theme of Going Sane and their rivalry before the whole love nonsense started infecting it.
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>>87665141

Chaos versus Order... and dramatic necessity, of course. It wouldn't do if you were someone's arch-nemesis, but he was not yours.
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>>87665007
The Source creates and tends to leave its creations alone. It is the right hand, the filled hand, the hand of the good writer who gives his creations space for autonomy. It is the cosmic Watchmaker of Deism or the Shangdi of Chinese theology.
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>>87655699
There is only one thing Clark needs to do to the Clown Prince of Crime that Bruce obviously cannot...
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>>87665007
It's an elseworld
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>>87665209
>Also no one "created" the DC multiverse. It was the flaw that sprang into existence within Monitor-Mind all on its own

"The Multiverse was a mistake"

-Grant Morrison
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>>87665694
Accidents happen. You don't have to let them destroy you.
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>>87665440
>Joker's face when he takes the Super dick
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>>87665794
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I like how in ASS, right after finally giving up on defeating Superman, Luthor is executed by the government. Very ironic.
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>>87655823
I could have sworn some one already written that, where he has some kind of super phsycosis that lets him know hes just a comic book character
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>>87655699
Because this is far more effective.
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>>87664636
Well how could you not?
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>>87663771
Did he just call him a mindless fuck?
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>>87656006
>Jokerpool
Does he become a girl?
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>>87667510
Flapper Harley is for the distinguished gentleman.
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>>87663771
>My voice!

I miss this show so much
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