October 2016 Comic Book Sales Report: Doubleheader Edition feat.

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TOP 10 GRAPHIC NOVELS & TRADE PAPERBACKS

> 1. CHAMPIONS: NO TIME FOR LOSERS #1 (MAR)
> 2. THE WICKED & THE DIVINE VOL. 4: RISING ACTION TP (MR) (IMA)
> 3. EAST OF WEST VOLUME 6 TP (MR) (IMA)
> 4. TOKYO GHOST VOLUME 2 TP (MR) (IMA)
> 5. LOW VOLUME 3: SHORE OF THE DYING LIGHT TP (MR) (IMA)
> 6. UNBEATABLE SQUIRREL GIRL BEATS UP THE MARVEL UNIVERSE HC (MAR)
> 7. DOCTOR STRANGE: FLIGHT OF BONES TP (MAR)
> 8. COLOR YOUR OWN STAR WARS TP (MAR)
> 9. TREES VOLUME 2 TP (MR) (IMA)
> 10. BATMAN: THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS BOOK & MASK SET (DC)


>>BookScan Top 20 Graphic Novels in October 2016

> 1. THE WALKING DEAD VOL. 26 (IMAGE COMICS)
> 2. MARCH: BOOK ONE (TOP SHELF PRODUCTIONS)
> 3. TOKYO GHOUL VOL. 9 (VIZ MEDIA)
> 4. BLACK PANTHER BOOK 1 (MARVEL COMICS)
> 5. THE WALKING DEAD BOOK 13 HC (IMAGE COMICS)
> 6. SUPER MARIO ADVENTURES (VIZ MEDIA)
> 7. BATMAN: THE KILLING JOKE DLX ED (DC COMICS)
> 8. MARCH TRILOGY SLIPCASE SET (TOP SHELF PRODUCTIONS)
> 9. MARCH: BOOK THREE (TOP SHELF PRODUCTIONS)
> 10. THE WALKING DEAD COMPENDIUM VOL. 3 (IMAGE COMICS)
> 11. THE WALKING DEAD COMPENDIUM VOL. 1 (IMAGE COMICS)
> 12. MONSTRESS VOL. 1 (IMAGE COMICS)
> 13. ONE-PUNCH MAN VOL. 8 (VIZ MEDIA)
> 14. AMERICAN BORN CHINESE (MACMILLAN)
> 15. SAGA VOL. 6 (IMAGE COMICS)
> 16. MARCH: BOOK TWO (TOP SHELF PRODUCTIONS)
> 17. HARLEY QUINN VOL. 1 (N52) (DC COMICS)
> 18. TOKYO GHOUL VOL. 1 (VIZ MEDIA)
> 19. SUPERMAN: AMERICAN ALIEN (DC COMICS)
> 20. ONE-PUNCH MAN VOL. 1 (VIZ MEDIA)


Sauce: http://icv2.com/articles/news/view/36032/october-2016-bookscan-top-20-adult-graphic-novels

Now we wait for the drop

>>87623846
>Champions had a Scholastic push
>still couldn't beat Big Trouble VS. Escape NY

Huh...well then

>>87623846
So Marvel won again? Top lel.

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Publishers' market shares for October 2016

>Marvel's quality at it's lowest.
>Still beats DC.

House of Ideas baby!

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>>87623846
>1. BIG TROUBLE IN LITTLE CHINA/ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK #1 (BOO)

>>87623846
DC is dead again! Go Marvel!

>>87623846
>>87623886

Wait wasn't DC beating Marvel sale.wise and Retail Market-Share?. What's happening?

>inflated Champions numbers still can't get the top spot

>>87623941
Loot crates; the only way Marvel can outsell DC nowadays.

>>87623941
Champions is getting like 300-400K this month due to Scholastic bullshit.

>>87623846
justice league vs suicide squad next month. Enjoy the sales bump for now marvelfam

>>87623941
Champions also was ordered by scholastic. Expect a huge drop now that they realise that it's not kid friendly. Doctor Strange got a movie+relaunch bump.

>>87623846
YES! MARVEL'S BACK, BABY! DC BTFO! HOW WILL THEY EVER RECOVER NOW?

>>87623849
Is BP the only trade Marvel can sell damn

>>87623958
I have quickly imagined a crossover title: CRATE LEAGUE VS SCHOLASTIC SQUAD

>>87623846
>>87623849
I can only assume DC's titles are now all or nearly all direct-only once again after their disastrous foray into sale or return. Next month their share of dollar/unit will be lower again if there are any sale or return titles left - they'll all be gone by then.

It's bizarre that they even tried it without pushing a simplified newsstand line - even just quietly exempting the main Batman title from crossovers and keeping it free of continuity clutter would have worked out for them - but nobody other than LCS owners was ever going to order the bulk of their titles, so making them returnable was never going to be sustainable. Under the sales figures all publishers enjoy there's a lot of unsold and slow-selling books that are the retailers' problem. The fact that Diamond's shitty reporting is incapable of accounting for returned copies probably has nothing to do with DC's reasons for trying it out.

Can't say I've been keeping up with October's cover prices either, but I wouldn't be surprised to see Batman went back up to $4 along with other solid-selling titles. That would certainly prop up their dollar share for a month or two, but eventually - DC fans apparently being those who think $4 is too much for a comic book, regardless of the facts - the sales will slump back to around 100k/issue. Regardless, they're gonna do it if they haven't already.

Honestly? I can't help but feel DC could put out half as many titles and still get just the same unit/dollar share if they targeted the right books for cancellation. Half the production cost, same profit, and they'd almost certainly (legitimately for once) occupy the top 10 every month with actual sales.

But what do I know? Giving out pizza on company expenses at cons is clearly the way to go.

>>87623846
How the fuck is big trouble in little china on number one ?

>>87623998
Nice pasta, Marlel.

>>87624002
Lootcrate most likely

>>87624015
BOOM! is an exclusive client of Diamond so all floppy orders must go through them.

>>87623846
>Marvel over DC again

Wow, what everyone said would happen, happened. Incredible. Truly unprecedented.

>>87623998
what the fuck are you talking about ? its only a 5% boost and its because they literally had a relauch

>>87623846
Those LCS owners bitching on twitter must be crying tight now.

M-Marvel is finished, r-right?

>>87624027
Not really, this happened because champions was ordered by scholastic

>>87624027
most people saw this coming. Champions has inflated numbers.

Civil War not being able to beat Batman is still a thing.

And even then, they WANT people to buy Marvel, for obvious reasons

>>87624037
>>87624027
>>87623998
>0.10 $ have been added to your account

>>87624020
>all this DC damage control

>>87624027
>Big Bang Comics on suicide watch

>>87624042
They still have Doctor Strange and The Sorcerers Supreme and Civil War 2 as high sellers.

>>87624070
>Doctor Strange and The Sorcerers Supreme
Because of the movie.

>>87624049
Civil War II with Carol Danvers as a lead not beating a Batman relaunch shouldn't really be surprising

Both books are trash tho

>>87623846
>> 1. BIG TROUBLE IN LITTLE CHINA/ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK #1 (BOO)

This deserves it. It's an amazing crossover.

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>>87624081
>>87624058
>>87624069
>if Marvel sucks, so does DC!

>>87624079
Movie sales translate to tpv sales not floppies. And even still, it sold, it's #3 after two titles with inflated numbers.

>>87624058
All I read from DC is Sixpack & Dogwelder, I don't give a shit. I'd be honestly surprised if someone didn't realize this would happen. It's pretty much the same thing as how the New 52 went. Few months of being #1 then dropping back down after Marvel drops a few big books.

>>87623882
>So Marvel won again? Top lel.

HAHAHAAHA no

Rebirth is finally dethroned? Are people finally starting to realize how shitty it is?

>>87624017
Lootcrate orders from Diamond.

>>87624093
Garth here is such a qt.

>>87624101
>>87624113
And that makes you a happy marvelfag, of course.

>>87623998
>But what do I know?

exactly

>>87624098
>trade paperback volume

>>87624114
TO clarify because of you:
>All orders of BOOM!'s floppies must go through Diamond

>>87624113
It's just mediocre really with a few stand out books here and there.

My favorite title is Aquaman personally.

>>87624081
It's Batman #8 and #9, not #1, #2...
And it's Civil War 2, a crossover event, sequel to one of their most well known crossover and it comes after their billion dollar Civil War movie.

Also, Batman is great.

>>87623941
Marvel pulled every trick in the book to get Champions big numbers for #1. Now it'll drop by 80% and no one will remember it even exists.

>>87624095
Marvel's CEO is a Trump supporter.

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>>87623846
>1. BIG TROUBLE IN LITTLE CHINA/ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK #1 (BOO)
I did not see that one coming.

>>87624079
I thought comic sales were affected by the movies though.

>>87624113
I hate Rebirth but it's still better than Marvel's lineup.

>>87624181
Retailers.

>>87624181
*weren't

>>87624162
So these sales are actually gerrymandering?

Marvel is dominating DC again.

>>87624185
>>87624113
>>87624144
>I hate Rebirth
It's DA KEWL thing to do, baby.

>>87624207
They aren't dominating DC the same way DC weren't dominating Marvel

Marvel were dominating DC last year though

>>87624098
It's a #1 with a movie out. Even if customers don't end up buying it retailers are going to order a fuckton.

>>87624214
Bonus if you hate King's Batman.

>>87624217
Shh, let them shill. It's their unpaid job.

>>87623886
The only thing that matters is the comparative sales here. Year-to-date shows that comics really are growing instead of dying.

>>87623941
DC's boost was due to a relaunch, they don't have any big #1s this month and Marvel does.

>>87624214
Nah, the cool thing to do is be a little sheep. Rebirth is beyond boring for me and just because Marvel is worse doesn't mean I'm going to sing Rebirth's praise. If I count minis, Hanna Barbers, Vertigo and Young Animal then I can find almost a dozen genuinely good DC titles, if I'm looking strictly at Rebirth I can barely name 3. and the upcoming titles don't sound too good either.

>>87624181
>>87624195
Movies don't convince new people to get into comics, but movies do trick more sales out of the suckers who are already into comics.

>>87624276
Yeah but it's okay when DC does it.

>mouseketeers run out of arguments
>better post ugly pics
Bravo Marvel.

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>>87623846

>This can't be happening! I'm in charge here!

>>87624419
>they spill over the thread about the latest Frank Cho interview

>>87624462
And company wars threads: >>87624452

>>87623846
Yeah, I don't like Marvel but I'm ok with this. Their biggest mistake this year was Civil War's interloping with all the books making a lot of them unpleasant reads. Now that it's winding down and there's interest in the likes of Riri Williams and the return of the Spider-Marriage to the mainstream, business will be picking itself back up

>>87624485
You can thank Drumpf for that. All the sjws are buying more Marvel after the election.

>>87624476
>comic book sales threads are company wars threads by default
>implying that shitposter is the same faggot who posts NSFW pics here

>>87623941
#1's and events are the only reason Marvel outsold them this month, also Champions got a pretty huge boost.

I hope they permaban this fucker posting these images

>>87624462
>>87624476
>>87624419
So... what you mean is that's actually a shitposter, huh?

Then, why, I dunno, REPORT THE FAGTRON, you imbeciles?

>>87624516
So which are you? The mouseketeer or the NSFW pic poster?

>Marvel does well in sales
>DCfriends scramble to make excuses and call anyone saying anything pro-marvel a shill
>posting non-work safe images in an attempt to get the mods to delete the thread

this is why sales threads are cancer

>>87624520
Isn't that the same reason why DC was outselling Marvel

>>87624534
Neither.

t. OP

I'm out of this thread. for a different reason.

>>87624528
Hey, I did that three times already. I don't know how many times I can do it until they wanr/ban me for "abusing" the system.

>>87624546
>Marvel does well in sales
lol
>anyone saying anything pro-marvel a shill
Well, yes. Marvel doesn't have fans anymore, only shills.

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>>87624562
>Well, yes. Marvel doesn't have fans anymore, only shills.

>>87624594
When you have so many fans abandoning ship, what remains? Exactly, the employees of the company trying to pass as fans.

I'd give it until January to really see if Champions actually has lasting power or if it's a one hitter quitter. I honestly don't expect it to sell gangbusters at all and probably settle around 40-50k.

>>87623998
The salt is real.

>>87624308
Oh yes. Now this is very true actually.

>>87624550
Yep. It's just sweet karma, this is all.

>>87623846
Man, sales threads were a mistake desu.

>>87624550
DC's #10's also oversold Marvel, so nope.

>>87624736
>DCcuck
You better get a new IP, sonny.

>>87624768
I used to go to sales threads to see how my books were doing but now it's just shitpost central.

As a comics fan i have the mental capacity to enjoy marvel books (moon girl, Ultimates) that are good and dc books that are good (dec, deathstroke). Why is co so autistic? The shill meme reads like little kids crying at each other. Just be happy comics are selling well.

>>87624777
What are you trying to achieve with your shitposting?

It won't last past the month but whatever.

>>87624842
>EVERYTHING'S FINE! NO NEED TO PANIC!

>>87624784

How is anyone shitposting?

Marvel is on the shitter with only maybe 6 good books that are not selling.

I'm a marvel fan and I would have been weirded out to call myself a ''DC fan'' since I loved too many marvel characters.

Today? Marvel is shitting the bed so much that I have no doubts now that I'm a DC fan

>>87624901
>How is anyone shitposting?

You just ignoring the MARVELKEK, DCKEK and the guy posting porn/anal prolapse?

>>87623846
>> 5. BATMAN #8 (DC)
>> 6. BATMAN #9 (DC)
>>87623846
>> 9. ALL-STAR BATMAN #3 [*] (DC)
Damianfags kill him.

>>87624320
>>87624320
Yes because DC books are good while Marvel doesn't promote their good books

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>>87624859
now this is shitposting

>>87624914

Yeah but everybody just ignores that shit and moves on, I mean beyond that I don't see people shitposting when we talk the truth about Marvel

>>87624940
>Marvel doesn't promote what they don't have
Well, duh.

>>87624916
Duke and Harper dead of Batman .

>>87623846
Hmm, so much for Marvel being on suicide watch, I suppose.

>>87625132
Just wait until the scripts start making """subtle""" jabs at Trump winning

Rebirth titles are still bleeding sales. Each Batman is still selling less than the previous one.

Rebirth is looking like New 52 Part 2: Electric Boogaloo.

>>87625216
>still on damage control

All this damage control... on both sides of the fence...

>>87625216
>Duke and Harper

>>87625277
Yeah we should post... retarded ellipses instead....
........................................................................

>>87625277
>on both sides of the wall
Fixed.

>>87625216

Nice bait, but you were trying too hard 4/10

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>>87623846
>> 9. ALL-STAR BATMAN #3 [*] (DC)

>>87625304
Okay... you seem to know what's best I suppose...

>>87625385
Hi Hillary, can I get your autograph?

>>87625385
Hillary you should have bowed out and let Sanders take the nomination! But no, can't let 30 years of running for president go to waste could you!?

>>87625406
>Batman in the middle of armagedon
>Whole city is on the brink of destruction
>Many people are probably dead

I see Snyder continues his "Good" batman run

>>87625468
Link ?

Good job Champions

>>87624276
Whut last month they had a bunch if not number 1s in the top 10. More than #1s

>>87624300
>Using the term sheep.
>In 2016.

I feel for you, man.

>>87625468

Bleeding Cool is a DKEK circle jerk.

>>87624528
This idiot thinks mods are competent

>>87625524
BUT Bleeding Cool ALWAYS RIGHT

>>87624027
Yes, that LCS owner that ordered 250 Champions #1 is surely crying.

>>87623846
>3. DOCTOR STRANGE AND THE SORCERERS SUPREME #1 (MAR)
Movies have no effect, they said. No effect on sales whatsoever, they said.

>>87625563
It has no lasting effect, but it does get one significant boost. The fact that it's a #1 also helps.

>>87624617
Just because /co/ hates Marvel doesn't mean everyone else does. Die hard fans and movie casuals exist despite your autistic delusions. You're only making DC fans look like retards

And people thought Marvel would possibly ever learn from the success of Rebirth. No, they will just continue on their destructive path that they begun with the original Marvel Now.

>>87623846
>> 9. ALL-STAR BATMAN #3 [*] (DC)
I dislike Snyder. I said I'm starting to actively dislike Duke because he's a bland, useless character that's being pushed in not one, but two Batman titles in favor of better, more interesting characters.

>>87625931
Aw, Damifag just evolved.

>>87625807
She didn't get the electoral college but more people overall voted for her.

>>87623849
>Ellis is still wasting time on trees
Welp.

>>87625544

http://www.bleedingcool.com/?s=bestseller+october

Read Bleeding Stool's October sales reports for a good laugh.

The comments section is also mysteriously shut off for their monthly sales report today. Strange. It worked the last few months.

>>87625971
That NO ONE BUY THE BOOK FOR DUKE.

>>87626047
Thruth to be told, I can't say that I hate Duke, because there has been occasions where I have liked him (ending of Robin War, for example), but unfortunately he is the culmination of everything I don't like about Snyder's Batman.

OCs replacing old, established characters instead of co-living with them, charactirization off, non-stop world destroying action that simulatneously takes too long and too little time to happen and character development that is told instead of shown.

And seriously, yes Robin does not necessarily need Batman as Damian (and his solo) has demonstarted, but too bad that Duke ain't one, as he desperately needs Batman to stay relevant on and off-page.

>>87626071
The book trops like a stone

>>87626086
Exactly. I totally agree. Its only been 3 years. No one has ever been able to write a characters personality in such a short time, ever, let alone a good one. Give it a decade or two, im sure well get a decent duke story before 2030.

>>87626040
Rich probably just hasn't seen the thread here yet to steal.

>>87626040
I can't imagine why.

>>87626013
No, more people, over all, voted for people OTHER than her.

>>87624214

I thought DA KEWL thing to do was to storytime every Rebirth comic regardless of quality, endlessly ghost-bumping them throughout the week, shitpost in Marvel storytime threads, also cry about how oppressed you are by the SJWs.

>>87626522
Fuck off Marvel shill. People keep those Rebirth comics bumped because DC keeps innovating and pushing the medium forward into new and interesting places while providing affordable but hard hitting masterpieces and genre-defining works.

Maybe your threads wouldn't get so many shitposts if they weren't all blatant SJW pandering garbage.

Name a single Marvel comic that even comes close to the brilliance of Deathstroke, Superman, New Super-man, Batman, or Hal Jordan and the Green Lantern Corps. Not to mention Sheriff of Babylon and Flintstones which are arguably two of the greatest comics of the modern era.

Face it, Marvel's finished.

>>87626522
>I thought DA KEWL thing to do was to storytime every Rebirth comic regardless of quality

This isn't exactly a company specific thing.

>>87623882
Marvel always fucking wins baby

>>87626591
>keeps innovating and pushing the medium forward
With "back to basic" approach? Yeah, that's right

>>87626591
>Deathstroke, Superman, New Super-man, Batman, or Hal Jordan and the Green Lantern Corps
......really?

>>87623846
>lootcrate and others making sales bigger
>#1s
>Batman x4
>event
>Star Wars
>TWD because of the new season

So everything is back to normal?

>>87626591
>Hal Jordan and the Green Lantern Corps.

Nothing brilliant about this garbage, it's just more power level wankery.

The rest I'll give you though.

>>87626692
Praise the mouse.

>>87626748
marlel isn't publishing anything half as good as Deathstroke. The post you replied to is from a baiting marvel lackey undercover though, I hope you know that.

>>87626768
Back to normal, just higher numbers.

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>>87623846
Massive DCfag here but this was expected, they couldn't use the momentum Rebirth created

>Completely ignore the Manhattan reveal and return to status quo
> Constantly push the OCs no one cares about
> Books like Batman, Flash, Blue Beetle are underwhelming
> Most books like Wonder Woman are decompressed as fuck
> Put Wally West storyline into a D-list book no one knows about and stain it with Booth art
> Make Teen Titans about Damian with the Kid Flash nobody likes
> Shitty crossover event killed the momentum of Bat-books
> Put FUCKING HITCH on JL

It was fun while it lasted but DC blew it again.

>>87626955
Once they release Supersons and SHAZAM!, they'll be back on top. Just you wait. Those are the two standout Rebirth books that everyone is the most excited about, so they're just waiting for shit to lul a bit then they'll release them and blow the doors off of the sales charts and cement themselves as #1 for all time.

>>87626955
Not like Marvel is doing anything good though....

I wonder how little ole Raven is doing...

>>87626982
>SHAZAM!

I like how you tried to sneak that one in there as if this will ever actually happen, good one Anon.

>>87626982
I dunno man, I want DC to stop shilling mediocre writers like Orlando and Williamson immedately or we are going to get another Winick age in DC.

>>87627031
B-but Johns PROMISED!

>>87627076
Johns is a Goddamn liar. Don't fall for his ruses, his promises always fall through.

>>87627072
Orlando and Williamson are still significantly better than all the garbage writers at Marvel, so I don't see what the problem is. Just because they're not on the level of Morrison or Johns, doesn't mean their books aren't still extremely good and well worth buying.

The beauty of Rebirth is that it can bring the best out of even the most mediocre writers. Just look at Lobdell and Humphries. Their Rebirth comics are fucking amazing! Green Lanterns and Red Hood are two of the most entertaining books I've ever read.

>>87627072
Orlando is fine despite his stilted dialogue. Williamson, Humpries, Abnett, Seeley, Lobdell, Tomasi or Percy are worse.

>>87627114
Being better than shit doesn't make you good. Marvel are incompetent in their scouting, they have the opportunity to really retake both the industry both in sales and quality of only they'd actually go out and find good creators and if they actually throw their fans a few bones/titles.

>>87626955
>Massive DCfag here
Heh, sure. All DC haters like to pass as DC fans.

>>87627115
Are you fucking kidding me? Tomasi's Superman is already ranking among the all-time best Superman runs.

>>87627179
It's the only tactic Marvel shills have left now that everyone has seen through their tricks and lies.

>>87627114
>>87627115
Orlando is terribly generic. I haven't finished Midnighter yet but his Supergirl and NoMM were terrible.

Joshua Williamson is Pre-Rebirth Lobdell tier dude, down to narration boxes. He is not hated only because he is new.

They should push Tim Seeley more instead. I'm glad he's getting a shot at JL in january.

>>87627179
>>87627202
OP here, nah dude, only marvel book i'm reading now is deadpool (and that's only to waste time). i'm not really into their comics.

>>87627202
That, and pretending that they have read every DC book ever.

>>87627242
This, lol. Marvel really is finished.

>>87627228
>backpedaling
Like clockwork.

>>87627203
Tim Seeley is fucking horrible. You accuse others of doing narration boxes and you give this castrated sjw a pass? Enjoy having your intelligence insulted.

>>87623941
>>87623962
>>87623998
>>87624027
>>87624069
>"I don't know how a chart about preorders works": the posts

>>87627270
>being a homophobe
>in 4chan

>>87627266
>>87627242
>>87627257

Jesus Christ guys, we really can't criticize a company now? I'm enjoying Superman, Titans and Young Animal for what it's worth, that doesn't mean I'm enjoying EVERYTHING.

>>87623846
Wait, why are Mouseketeers crowing so hard? We knew Champions would have bloated numbers from the direct sales to Scholastic's Book Fairs, but we've already seen that Champions is tanking at retail.

Doctor Strange is in the same boat as Black Panther was back when Civil War launched- a movie tie-in #1 that falls off dramatically. After that the only thing on there from Marvel is Star Wars and their giant company-wide event.

Am I missing something? How is DC #btfo?

>>87627332
But I'm not a homophobe and I never once implied I was a homophobe in that post.

>>87627334
No, because every time someone attacks DC he turns out to be a Marvel shill.

I'm going to the gym. You people should do the same, to cool down. I hope that loli I saw last Tuesday is back

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>>87627270
Most comic writers are sjw these days, if i stopped liking a guy's writing depending on their politicial views, i wouldn't have been able to enjoy anything.

This is a terrible way to defend Williamson, who is also a SJW by the way. He's still forcing me to read about black Wally.

>>87627395
I'm not defending Williamson, he's worse and relies on his "le epic twist gimmick", Frostbite #1 was painful to read despite the fact that I love the artist.

But Seeley is still bad and inserting your sjw agenda into your work is always a bad idea. Him coming out and saying that tumblr is right and he shouldn't be writing a black teenage girl was cringe as fuck.

>>87623941
Marvel was smart enough to sell their comic to scholastics which is a realm DC cant touch without pissing off its fans

>>87627365

well, seeing as how you actually suffer from a learning disability, I'll break it down for you.

1st: DC Relaunches with a bunch #1s
2nd: Sales spike predictably
3rd: DC's retarded fanbase assumes they've entered a golden age where they'll be on top forever and aggressively shitpost the board
4th: Most /co/ users tell DC fans they're being fucking retarded because they only have a sales boost because of a relaunch
5th: Relaunch ends, DC Sales slump as predicted
6th: /co/ gets to enjoy saying "told you so" to retarded companywars faggots.

Did you get all that? I wouldn't want to leave any child behind, after all.

>>87626955
>> Make Teen Titans about Damian with the Kid Flash nobody likes
Tim pls you are dead .

>>87627372
>No, because every time someone attacks DC he turns out to be a Marvel shill.

When they go throught loops to make it seem as if DC is also shitting the bed, that their sales are not that great, that marvel does listen to their ans while DC doesn't, that's when you know that shills are in the thread.

>>87627651
>Most /co/ users
This is where you fail, most of /co/ is actually behind Rebirth and most are also shitting on Marvel for making bad comic after bad comic.

Champions.
Civil War 2, all of it and that's like 30 books.
Turning Kamala into PCmala.
Pushing Carol and failling every time.
Pushing the Inhumans and failling every time.
Shitting on the X-men.
Shittion the Fantastic Four.
Almost 5 bucks for literally who comics like Solo, Mosaic, Ocupy Avengers.
Replacing classic characters with PC versions of them.
Gwenpool.

I love Marvel and I hate that I hate Marvel.

>>87627686
There's plenty of marvelfags that instead of criticizing marvel because of their low quality output they just eat up anything marvel shits their way, however, it's true that every time you try to criticize Rebirth you get "fuck off marvel shill" tier replies. This is the worst period in comics, at least, the worst from the last decade or so.

>>87627651
>sales were only high because of the relaunch
>Aquaman #10 outsells literally every single comic Marvel put out that weak
You're either delusional or getting paid extremely well to pretend to be retarded.

>>87627732
>Gwenpool
But Gwenpool is great and generally beloved by /co/. The fuck are you on about?

>>87623954
>>87623961
>>87627595

What is scholastic.?

>>87627732
>most of /co/ is actually behind Rebirth

Only if you go by DC fan's "safe space" threads.

>>87627270
I liked his Witchblade.

>>87627794
Company that sells books to children. A lot of elementary and middle schools in America will have "Scholastic Book Fairs" where Scholastic will come and set up a shop full of books to try to sell to kids. Scholastic ordered a bunch of copies of Champions #1 to sell at book fairs.

Which was probably a bad idea considering Champions #1 really wasn't all the kid friendly what with the Underage Juggalo Sex Slaves.

>>87627795
As you can see, some DCfags like to call you marvel shill if you dare badmouthing it.

>>87627372
>lolis
>existing in the 3dpd world

/co/ is fucking stupid.

>>87627825
I doubt they care, those issues were already ordered so it doesn't matter to them how they are received or sold.

>>87627651
Oh, so you're just retarded.

>>87627890
What do you expect from a Marvel shill? They're out in full force trying desperately to save their failing company. At this rate, they'll probably all be out of their jobs within the next year or two.

Rebirth Wave 1 was a crippling shot, but Wave 2 will be a finishing blow.

>>87627825
Why DC didn't do that with Gotham's Academy and Teen Titans?

>>87627365
Mousefags are just super desperate. Marvel is pretty much dead as a comics company, which is why they can only sell books through methods that don't require people to want to read comics (Loot Crates, shilling to corporations to buy in bulk, variants.)

>>87627760
again with the stale bait

>>87627795
>"safe space"
You mean storytimes of actually good comics?

Yes, those are safe spaces for people that actually like comics

>>87627784
No he doesn't. His book was at 22k when DCYou ended. Or are you actually retarded enough to try to pass off TT #1 as if it's an indicator for how the book will regularly sell.

>>87626982
>Supersons
Dude, I think the idea of this is really fun, but freaking come on. It's still a book about bunch of 10 years old kids running around and it's honestly undeserving of the hype surrounding it.

>>87628028
But what if there's a beach issue and we get to see Jon without his shirt on?

>>87623846
Did Schoolastic buy up any #2s, #3s etc?

>>87628039
Pedos please leave.

>>87627979
>again with the stale bait
Have you actually read it or are you just assuming it's bad because of the name?

>>87628028
Can't be any worse than Waid's #woke faggotry. Besides retarded fun is what comics are made for.

>>87627270
This. Seeley is an average writer.

>>87628046
Pretty sure this is just gonna be a one time thing, senpai so don't expect it again. At least not for this title.

>>87628074
He's still better than all the garbage writers at Marvel though.

>>87628083
Why did they do that in the first place? This title is not good for kids.

>>87628121
Sheer incompetence on Marvel's part, I'd wager.

>>87625468
Nigga that's literally just anecdotal, store to store stuff. Every week it says Superman is outperforming Batman even though Batman comfortably sits in the top ten while Superman continues to sink.

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I think King's Batman is alright

wish he was on Suicide Squad though

>>87627825

>Which was probably a bad idea considering Champions #1 really wasn't all the kid friendly what with the Underage Juggalo Sex Slaves.

This is the same company that published Animorphs.

>>87628162
>Every week it says Superman is outperforming Batman

No it doesn't.

>>87627270
>this castrated sjw
Okay anon how did he hurt you?

>>87627934
they arent owned by Disney. its good to be in the know

>>87628162
>Every week it says Superman is outperforming Batman
This literally never happened.

>>87628153
It's not like Marvel set out to make the book Scholastic-friendly. They made the book, advertised the fuck out of it, then Scholastic decided to order a bunch thanks to Marvel hyping it up as "the next big thing! teen heroes for the NOW 2.0 generation! Please dear god buy this book!"

Either way, Marvel got the sales with all the costs being off-loaded onto Scholastic and its unlikely that Scholastic would have bought any non-#1 issues anyways since that wouldn't work with their business model. Scholastic Book Fairs happen like twice a year, so doing a monthly continuation isn't something they're interested in.

It was a golden opportunity for Marvel though and Waid botched the damn thing. Either way, this is probably going to have extremely good first issue sales (thanks to scholastic, variant covers, and #1 boost) then a massive drop in issue 2 and another massive drop in issue 3 until steadying at a respectable but middling 35~40k.

>>87628378
he touched my heart

>>87628245
I wish he was on Flash. Or Green Lantern. Hell, I'd take King handling the whole Superman line. Suicide Squad would also be a good fit.

But Batman was a mistake.

>>87623998
>I can only assume DC's titles are now all or nearly all direct-only once again after their disastrous foray into sale or return.

What in the fuck are you still talking about? When DC announced it was offering returnability it was to the direct market. You're that idiot who keeps thinking "DC IS OFFERING RETURNABILITY THEREFORE THEY'RE FOCUSING ON THE NEWSSTAND" which is bullshit. DC is still doing newsstand sales but they work differently than direct (all newsstand titles are $3.99 regardless of the comic)

They even outright said around the time the whole thing started that returnability would be for the first six issues of the $2.99 titles and first three issues of the $3.99 titles. You keep conveniently ignoring all of these to push made-up bullshit from your head.

>The fact that Diamond's shitty reporting is incapable of accounting for returned copies

They deduct 10% off on the charts for comics that have returnability.

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>>87628344
You're not wrong.

>>87628426
They're owned by AT&T.

>>87626591
>DC keeps innovating and pushing the medium forward into new and interesting places while providing affordable but hard hitting masterpieces and genre-defining works.
Can't tell if trolling, shill or genuine. Hard to tell these days on /co/.

>>87623846
>> 1. BIG TROUBLE IN LITTLE CHINA/ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK #1 (BOO)

I have to admit I didn't expect this to happen.

But I did like that comic the most out of the ones on that top 10.

>>87628687
It's just the same person pretending to argue with himself.

>>87623876
>Champions sold at Scholastic book fairs
>issue 1 deals with sex slavery and the team getting one of the sex slaves killed with their incompetency

>>87628344
As dark as Animorphs got, it wasn't "teens fail to stop sex trafficking" dark.

Didn't the people at Scholastic read the book before placing those orders?
It's clearly not suitable for children, what with Cho tongue kissing Viv and all.

>>87623846
>four DC books on top 10 and all of them are Batman
Top kek.

>>87629056
Seems Rebirth hype is finally dying down and things are going back to the way they always were.

>>87629056
The question is how much the others are selling comparatively. If they're all near Batman, then it doesn't really matter at all.

>>87628811
>and the team getting one of the sex slaves killed with their incompetency
The underage sex slave was already dead days before the champions of social justice got there.

>>87629090
Don't speak too soon. More Rebirth premieres on the way while Marvel continues to beat the dead horse that is progressivism.

>>87629140
>near Batman
Let's not go crazy here.

>>87623846
>> 1. BIG TROUBLE IN LITTLE CHINA/ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK #1 (BOO)

I'm okay with this.

>>87628881
>Didn't the people at Scholastic read the book before placing those orders?
Obviously not considering these orders have to be placed 2-3 months ahead of release. The book probably wasn't even done yet when the orders were placed.

>>87629178
This. Now that Trump has been elected, Marvel's days are numbered.

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>/co/ having bizarre Puritan fantasies

great

>>87629232
I liked it too but since their placement is due to Loot Crate it'll fall far lower on the chart to whatever number an average Boom title does.

>>87629202
Let's just say that maybe half are above 70k (and I'm being very generous here), then it's perfectly fine for the Batbooks to dominate the top 10 with its 100k+.

>>87629338
>implying Trump cares about these funny books.

Reminder that Marvel's CEO is a Trump supporter. If this were actually true, it would be DC who is finished.

Judging from retailers talking about actual sales for Champions the drop for #2 is going to be fucking insane.

>>87629907
Yeah, a lot of the sales come from scholastic, even if it was popular the sales would fall hard

>>87624070
>issue #1's
>big movie to help push it
>scholastic
>Marvel's big event book for the year being outsold by two regular issues of Batman

>>87627651
the delusion is fucking real

>>87628699
Loot crate.

>>87624098
Do you seriously not remember Black Panther #1?

>>87623849
>> 9. TREES VOLUME 2 TP (MR) (IMA)
Any here actually like trees? It's a decent political thriller but vol 2 really dropped the fucking ball being extremely decompressed with about 2-3 issues of plot stretched out into a whole book with really nothing important happening

>>87629907
This. There's plenty to indicate that this month is just an outlier

>>87630046
Doesn't that book have solid holds, all things considered?

> 4. DARK KNIGHT III: THE MASTER RACE #6 (DC)

This is still going on?!

>>87628245
What if he will be on Red Tornado?

>>87630151
So far but Marvel has a few other titles launching this month. Renew Your Vows, Invincible Iron Man, Avengers, and I think some other stuff. If this week's launches do well (I'm waiting to see the Bleeding Cool Bestseller list and what Big Bang Comics and others say on Twitter), then it'll cover for the sales drops for Champions and others.

>>87626982
We are going to get Young Justice book too.

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>>87630452
>I'm waiting to see the Bleeding Cool Bestseller list and what Big Bang Comics and others say on Twitter

>>87630151

Marvel has won sales for years except for a couple months this year and now they're back on top. The outlier is DC over the last couple months.

>>87628811
>kids should never be exposed to more complex, dark or politically relevant themes

test

>>87623998
Are you posting from the 1980's?

>>87630468
source?

>>87623846
>Ike the Jew is a Trump supporter
>Marvel takes back their top spot after Trump wins the election.

Really makes you think.

>>87626692
but they didn't win?

>>87623941
Champions. Otherwise DC beaten Marlel again, which is something anyone knows, who follows weekly sales threads

>>87624259
Graphic novels seem to be going down a bit however. I take it that is referring to trades and hardcovers, right?

>>87624037
yup. it was a pretty shitty month for marvel. if IvX doesn't sell, then there won't be any xmas for them

>>87624101
nothing happened you idiot. If you deduct Champions from marvel, they basically lost to DC by over 30%

>>87624070
except they don't. but what can you know?

>>87624113
it still isn't. november will be the ultimate tie-breaker

>>87626522
I've thought that shilling was a joke.
How's mosaic and solo going?
Oh wait, they don't

>>87630176
Story adjustments + slower penciller and inker for thr main story

>>87624594
sorry that truth offends you.
marvel lost most of its support when they dumped x-fags for inhumans

>>87626040
It all works for me. Don't know what you're talking about

>>87626955
>the sky is falling
did you even read the chart?

>MARVEL COMICS DOLLAR SHARE 35.89% UNIT SHARE 36.58%
>DC ENTERTAINMENT DOLLAR SHARE 30.70% UNIT SHARE 34.76%
The fact that Marvel had their big Scholastic book Champions #1, Doctor Strange And The Sorcerers Supreme #1 (with the new movie to boost interest) an issue of their big 2016 even book and the final issue of Darth Vader all make the top 10 and still barely beat DC by less than 2% in unit share is fucking insane.

What this shows is that DC's regular books are actually having prolonged success.

>>87627061
Liefeld is still salty that Snyder roasted him via TWitter that one time, isn't he.

>>87627365
marvel shilling. it's real. go to the movie threads, and you'll now I'm right. dr strange was a failure, but god damn, say a bad word here, and you'll get shitposted to death

>>87627365
>Am I missing something? How is DC #btfo?
They aren't. Marvel sells their crap for bigger prices and they had the advantage of the loot crate. We will have a bigger picture, when we have the full report. I wouldn't be surprised if barely any marvel book entered the top 50.

>>87627372
most of marvelfags hate marvel (including me), so yeah, anyone who praises marvel currently is a shill.

>>87627795
2muchsalt4me

>>87629145
Pretty sure she was implied to have been alive.

>>87631103
>if you leave out their top books, they lose!

No shit. Same would happen if you drop Batman books for DC.

>>87626419
More people, overall, voted for OTHER people than Trump. Wow, such a shocker.

>>87629530
it's like you are too retarded to understand how it works. I bet that Bendis, Slott, Alonso and Queada are also Trump supporters, right? I mean Ike the Kike is the one who is responsible for editing and writing the books, right?

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>resurexion will sky rocket marvel sales as never seen before
>tfw i am a x-fag but i like DC since rebirth

I am conflicted.

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>>87631240
Eh, they still talk. Even after his shots at Brevoort they still interact sometimes, too. This was like three years after that incident.

>>87630151
We all knew that Champions #1 sold for 400k, thanks to scholastic. If you deduce this book, marvel would do the same, if not worse than last month. ALSO, keep in mind that they gave Mosaic #2 for free to some LCS and voila, the numbers agree.

It's easy to make fictional win, but it's hard to keep the readership in the real world. I myself literally stopped reading any marvel book. ANY. And I feel pity for those, who still read marvel. As a matter of fact, I want to hug them out of pity.

>>87626768
BTiLC/EfNY was good, but Im legitimately surprised by it's sales. How does the whole loot crate thing work?

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>It looks like Marvel PR has been leaning on Diamond Comic Distributors’ press folks a little.
That is so fucking sad.
>attempt to manufacture some good pr by getting the number 1 selling book in October
>get Scholastic to buy a fuck tonne of copies
>still get beaten
>"w-we're totally number 1 guys. highest selling book in October" if you only count odd numbered books sold on a Friday by people wearing blue
It's like those shit movies that put quotes on their covers from reviewers saying how awesome the movie was, only to find out the quote is from some Bangladeshi blog.

>>87631344
Batman keeps selling MONTH AFTER MONTH, YEAR AFTER YEAR.
Champions only sold ONCE, because Marvel gave THE FREE COPIES, you idiot.
I would like to see Champions reaching the same issue number that Batman does

>>87631387
>I myself literally stopped reading any marvel book. ANY.
I stopped 2 years ago. No regrets.

>>87631234
shhhh... you're ruining the narrative

>>87631395
I think what they're saying is that "Champions" #1 was the highest selling book of the highest price tier. Which is to say, it's the one that brought in the most money for Marvel, and by extension Diamond.

>>87631375
don't worry. it won't. I didn't read DoX, and I'm happy. And I don't care for resurrxion. I will not be satisfied, until marvel is hit really hard in their ass, for what they did to x-men and mutants

>>87627365
>why are the marvel shills crowing?
>thread is full of DC fags

>>87631422
It took me a while (because I still love the X-Men), but yeah, I feel the same. Imagine my shock, when I started reading DC books and felt the same enjoyment that I used to have with marvel over 10 years ago?

I genuinely thought that all cape books were like marvel. Yeah, I'm a retard

>>87631447
I get that's what they're saying. It's just really pathetic because not only is is completely manufactured success thanks to Scholastic, but it's moving the goal posts in terms of awards.

It'd be like Diamond congratulating DC on having the highest selling Batman book for the month. Technically it's true....but it'd be a fucking bullshit achievement because no one else puts out a Batman book.

>>87631466
>thread is full of DC fags helped by Marvelfags who hate what marvel had become
ftfy

I only want to inform you, that marvel literally has no support from their fanbase.

>>87627707
>"you probably haven't spent enough time on /co/ to tell"
>unlike me, who is clearly not a newfag

>>87627732
>most of /co/ is actually behind ReBirth
>anon only posts in Rebirth circle jerks

And I thought we hated safe spaces

>>87631574
compare storytimes of marvel to storytimes of dc.
I don't even go to storytimes, but one look in the catalog is enough to tell which is more popular.

>>87631599
Marvel?

>>87628811
>wontsombody_PLEASE_thinkofthechildren.jpg

>>87631621
nope. try again.

>>87631263
>dr strange was a failure

How did it do? I've not paid attention to the BO

>>87628858

No, but it did have child murder, serial killers and rapists. And thats just from the human side of things.

>>87631651
cont. I also wont to point out, that most of marvel books aren't even storytimed, btw

>>87631666
Dear Satan, the joke is that no one follows, therefore no one knows, because no one cares.

BUT at least the visuals were good

>>87631489
>I genuinely thought that all cape books were like marvel. Yeah, I'm a retard

Yeah, a lot of people are like that. I've noticed that a lot of people who hate superhero comics only read X-men and Spider-man until they got bad, and think that's what all Superheroes are like.

>>87631724
Really? Fucking why?

>>87631767
Because Spider-man and X-men are accessible

>>87631724
To my defense, I always read some other capes, it's just that I was never really well-versed in DC mythos (and I probably never will). It's just that the last few months were really comfy. I always loved Jurgens, and it's amazing that after all these years he still writes Superman. I have patchy knowledge of Superman, but it's hilarious that every decade I decide to pick up Supes, Jurgens is writing him.

I am aware that there was Morrison among others, and etc.

But in all seriousness, maybe except Deadpool (and Duggan really dropped the ball hard), there is literally nothing good out of marvel, and I hate avengers, with their assemble poses, and how they always jump on the threat like in the movies. It's really lame and boring.

>>87631724
What really gets me is when I'm having a discussion with my non-reader friends about how bad Marvel comics are these days, they say things like "This is why I don't read comics". Come on now. Don't treat all comics like Marvel comics.

>>87631767
Because Spidey and Mutants are the only things that are constantly worth reading from marvel.
Sure, you have also Ghost Rider and Punisher. But sometimes you have GR book, and you don't, so it's not stable.

And given the current politics, there isn't any real diversity at marvel, as all their books are quirky, EL OH EL lowest common denominators. You don't see variety of styles, storytelling or the atmosphere. Everything is disneyish, and apparently, X-Men will join the mouse style in spring

>>87631833
It's very sad that Marvel became the face of comics.

What's worse is the people who constantly say "sure Marvel is bad, but DC is just as bad!"

>>87631833
True. But frankly, the comic book readers are a lot to blame. Not enough was done to praise other companies, like, cough, Dark Horse, Image, Valiant, AMONG OTHERS.

and let's not start about european comics....
or 2000ad

>>87631651
Neither. They're both full of people bitching about inconsequential things.

>>87631862
We're talking about popularity. If one thread barely makes 50 posts, and it's an X-book, or Avenger book, while random DC books gets around 120 posts, then yeah, one is not like the other.

Let it sink for a while. Flintstones threads regularly reach the bump limit.

>>87631410
>Champions only sold ONCE, because Marvel gave THE FREE COPIES
What? Marvel didn't give away any free copies. The only book they're giving free copies for is Mosaic #2.

>>87631887
>Flintstones threads regularly reach the bump limit.
So? Flintstones is the best book that DC is putting out. Obviously it's going to reach the bump limit.

>>87631948
Thank you for agreeing with me. The only marvel storytime that reaches the bump limit is Civil War, which is an event book, where nothing happens.

Look, I don't really know what people think about the books, because I avoid storytimes. But every week, when I check the catalog, I see a trend of Distinctive Competition company having numerous storytimes that last for a day, and the other company, which threads die quickly, and it's a trend that happens for last few months.

I don't know if Batman, Teen Titans or Superman are considered good. But they sure as hell are more talked about than Gwenpool (which I admit, used to gather a lot of people in the past).

Also, and this is interesting, every time I check the catalog, when people talk about marvel, it's mostly some butthurt, and it takes like, 25% of the catalog? Or more? At the same time, rarely there is some butthurt towards DC.

>>87623846
>Marvel is on top again
No shit, i's their annual relaunch and they had a new movie. But thing is, 5% is not that big of a margin. During October 2015 thay had a fucking huge lead and DC looked completely finished by ANAD. Right now they're grasping for sales but they don't even have a half of their usual big hitters. Not as many actual #1s (that big red #1 over a fouteenth issue doesn't fool enough people) and some of them already started to flop. I doubt that IvX and Monsters Unleashed can break big numbers.
DC will lead again during december and january, at least considering solicits. Stop the damage control, faggots.

>>87632378
>DC take a lead because of their latest line reboot
>LOL MARVEL IS OVER

>Marvel retake the lead
>i-i-it's j-j-just because of a relaunch guys...

Comics are dead, just read manga and get it over with.

>>87633450
Most anime/manga is just edgelord, self insert shit.

>>87633450
Can't deal with all that moeshit, I'll pass. Also I'm not some pedo.

>>87634292
>>87634050
Your ignorance is showing.

>>87634472
This from someone who says that "Comics are dead"?

>>87634618
It is tho

Not even a weeb. France's market is bigger than ours despite the huge population difference.

>>87635321
French comics are comics, therefore "comics are dead" is a false statement.

Your ignorance is showing.

>>87634472
>implying I wasn't /a/ before I got into comics a few years ago
95% of modern anime/manga is total and complete shit. Literally the only good series that's aired in the last 4 years is JoJo and that's based on an older manga series. Miyazaki was right

>>87635444
『Pingu Pongu the Animu』

>>87635511
>implying sports shit can be good
I bet you like Kuroko.

>>87635549
And I bet you like JoJo.

Fuck, I bet you're so far gone that you like CoCo.

>>87623846

>Lost to fucking Loot Crate

And 2016 just keeps on giving. Marvel barely beat DC on their relaunch with a 400,000 book at $4.99

>>87632378

How is DC going to retake the lead? Marvel can release a ton of #1s because they have more heroes and teams people care about.

Teen Titans had a #1 issue in October and it didn't crack the top ten. DCs roster of relevant heroes isn't half as deep as Marvel.

>>87635648
>things casuals say

>/co/ acting like this is good

So you're all retarded or memeing? Only being ahead by 5% when you had a relaunch that has books which are either 1 or 2 dollars more expensive than your competitor is pathetic especially when you consider that the flagship title had massive inflated sales and will see a 80% drop by issue 2. Fuck DC even has as many titles in the top 10. It seems inevitable that DC will be back on top by December

>>87635648

>How is DC going to retake the lead

Marvels sales are all inflated with variants, 1's and the massive scholastic push of Champions this month and they barely won out. DC has JL v SS launching soon which is weekly. That will be enough to pout them back on top

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>>87635899
>DC has JL v SS launching soon which is weekly. That will be enough to put them back on top

>>87633403
>Reboot
Stopped reading there learn what words mean before using them incorrectly dumbass.

>>87635941
Marvel barely managed to beat DC in October (less than 2%) despite having Champions #1 (with it's huge buy by Scholastic) the Doctor Strange spin-off #1 (with the movie push) Civil War II (their big event book for the year) and the final issue of Darth Vader.

All that and they still barely managed to scrape across the line for the number one spot.

DC's books are actually selling past issue #1.

>>87627651

That isn't what happened at all you spastic. DCYou saw DC's sales at an all time low and Rebirth brought them right back up. Also sale retention was incredibly high unlike any relaunch from DC or Marvel in years. Literally nobody believed DC would beat out Marvel this month. Look at that top 10. Literally every single of those books was $4.99 with the exception of Vader that was $5.99. And unlike Rebirth where reports from retailers were really positive, Nower is apparently DOA on the retail level so orders will tank hard.

>>87635941

I honestly have no idea why you're laughing. Marvel has nothing in December while DC is launching their first Rebirth event

>>87636115
>nothing in December
>what is inhumans vs x-men #1

>>87636150
>inhumans
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>87636150

Nothing. Death of X didn't even crack the top 10

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>>87636150

>>87631503
>is is completely manufactured success thanks to Scholastic
Everyone keeps saying this but where did this Scholastic shit come from? I know they get trades like Moon Girl and Ms Marvel but I never heard of them getting floppies

This is just like the elections.
Sure, Marvel had the most sales because of their dirty tricks with the Champions.
But they did not reach the top, did they? No, an underdog did.

>>87636150
Who are the Inhumans?
Does their own mother know them?

>>87636822
Actually this is a pretty good question. I think Bleeding Cool said it and Marvel didn't confirm it outright.