Can we all agree that Spider-man's villains are objectively

>>87530149
I don't know, I think it depends. You can't tell me Will o' the Wisp is better than Two Face.

>>87530149
>inb4 Flashfags

>>87530149
Obviously, and they don't have to be turned into grimdark fags in order to be interesting either.

>>87530255
>You can't tell me Will o' the Wisp is better than Two Face.

>"Oh no muh face is scarred I better flip a coin!"

Two Face is a fucking joke. There's a reason he's never anything but a loser minor bad guy

>>87530149
Surely this is a joke thread?

>be scientist
>have lab accident
>put on animal costume
>"grrrr I hate Spider-man!"

>>87530149
>inb4 they only use the shittiest variants of the spiderman villains

>inb4 they handicap all of them while keeping the batman villains the same if they don't make them stronger

>inb4 they try to justify this and any other bullshit they do with calculations that poorly mask the fact that they chose the winner out of bias

into the trash it goes

>>87530381
Wow, you must really like Scorpion and Lizard, being that those are apparently the only characters you know.

>>87530149
What a shit thread, obviously Spidey's villains take it. So I'll propose a better one. Who has been more influential, Green Goblin or Joker?

>>87530418
>Scorpion
>The Lizard
>The Volture
>Doc Ock
>Rhino
>Jackal
>Electro
>Mysterio

>>87530381
I think you've managed to describe literally none of Spider-Man's villains
That's a miracle.

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>>87530381
>be crazy person
>get exposed to chemicals
>Put on carnival outfit
>"grrr I hate the Bat!"

>>87530399
The fuck are you talking?

>>87530345
And what the fuck is Will o' the Wisp? Interesting?

>>87530295
>spider vilains
>interesting

People just laught at them.

>>87530490
sorry, i'm just salty about the whole death battle thing and how screw attach does it. it's always what i said before or something that is obviously one sided

>>87530458
>The Volture
Not a lab accident, and spelled wrong.

>Rhino

Not a lab accident.

>Jackal

Not a lab accident, but still shit.

>Electro

Not a lab accident.

>Mysterio

Not a lab accident either. If you've only seen the movies why even come to this thread?

>>87530149
I love Spidy, but Batman';s villains are objectively better. Joker himself have more better stories than all of them.

>>87530149
Yes, if you're brain dead, I can see why someone would think that.

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>>87530488
Unrelated. Superman has unparalleled taste.

>>87530418
>who Doctor Octopus, Vulture, and Rhino

>>87530527
People laugh at Batman's villains too, your point?

>>87530564
But Schocker has a car and MEMES!

>>87530564
Well, when your villain is never allowed to die and keeps coming back for DECADES-
You're bound to get a few good ones out of it somewhere.

>>87530149
Do people actually like Spider-man villains, or do they just like Spider-man?

>>87530603
Only one of those are lab accidents.

>>87530613
And what's Bane got? A chiropractor's office??

>>87530606
No, people find them interesting, because they appear on better cartoons, on better movies and better comics.

>>87530452
You're asking whether Green Goblin or Joker is more influential?

When there are killer clowns on the loose and some guy dressed as Batman to beat them up?

>>87530661
So, literally just Joker and Tom Hardy's Bane, then.

>>87530647
Bane has /tv/

>>87530624
So what is Spidey's rogue gallery execuse?

>>87530673
I was referring to the lore of the characters. Who impacted their rival more?

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Hahah hey guys im i hate "Batfag' to
lol do i fit in on /CO/?

>>87530680
>What is arkhamverse
>What is DCAU

>>87530661
Yes, people always find Firefly interesting.

>>87530680
And Penguim, Rhas, Harley, Riddler among others, also better videogames - I had forgot them.

>>87530691
>execuse
You get two more tries but then that's it

>>87530673
Don't forget the woman trying to get men to kill themselves being called Poison Ivy.

Let's face it, Spider-man villains are cultural nobodies. You're never going to see people IRL dressing up in yellow mesh suits and shaking shit, or people dressing up as space wizards and setting off smoke bombs.

>>87530691
What are you on about? He's clearly talking about a specific character.

>>87530647
Bane does not need memes. He's a big guy.

>>87530723
He was GOAT on The Batman cartoon. What Spidey got? Fucking VULTURE? The Walrus?

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>>87530736
>Penguim
>Rhas
Ohohohohohohohoho it's in full bloom tonight
I'm creaming desu

>>87530738
Excuse*

Sorry mother.

>>87530775
nigga you never even watched Spec, did you?
Doc Ock is godtier, stupid batfag

>>87530781
>muuuh Rhino
>muuuh Vulture
>muuuh Chamaleon

Patethic.

>>87530791
It's okay, my child
THIS time
And their excuse is that they haven't been around NEARLY as long as the majority of DC's roster. So a smaller amount of notable stories is pretty natural.

>>87530694
You have to admit the green goblin has sucked ever since he came back. His character was only really good for one great story before becoming another generic villain. His only appeal now is that he had that one really good story and that somehow makes everything he's in supposedly better despite being practically a different character.

>>87530796
Well, that's the thing. No one watched this shit.

>>87530816
>CHAMALEON
>PATETHIC
Are you trying to get me off, anon? Because that is how you get me off.
I need more.
It's a drug now.

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Batman>Spiderman=Flash>Xmen>Superman>Fantastic Four>>>>>>Avengers

>>87530796
Not even better Ock version, pleb.

Batman's rogue gallery is still better. Name to me THE iconic Doc. Ock story. Please, one that doesn't revolve around fapping to midgets.

>>87530836
And whose fault is that? Spider-Man, or Marvel and Sony's fairly incompetent marketing staff (and the random af switching of TV and movie rights)

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>>87530855
>Batman>Spiderman
Batfags will always be worst cancer in capeshit

>>87530863
Uh, I guess there's the one where he tried to scorch the surface of the planet.

Mysterio is literally the only good and original Spider-Man villain

Green Goblin is just Lex Luthor + Joker sometimes
and Black Cat is literally Catwoman

Here's the difference between Batman and Spider-man's villains.

When people think of the concept of an arch nemesis, they think of Joker. When they think of the concept of a femme fatale, they think of Catwoman. When they think of a villain who is smart, they think of Riddler. Hell, when they think of "guy who pretends to be other people," a lot of people will generally think of Clayface, or think of Two-Face when it comes to "a good man gone bad."

Nobody in the world thinks about Sandman, Shocker, or Electro. Spider-man's rouges gallery just hasn't made any kind of cultural impact.

>>87530890
>not randompool fags
You just hate superior things, anon.

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I think Batman has better villains (notable stories anyway) in comics but Dafoe Goblin and Molina Ock btfo every /tv/ Batvillain

>>87530850
Nigga is a shit tier shapeshifter.

Mystique >>>>>> Chamalefag

Fucking aunt May raped his unconscious body after drugging him.

>>87530903
People know who Clayface is?

Spider-Man villains suck because the vast majority of them could easily become multi millionaires through their tech or skills without resorting to crime. Why are they robbing banks wearing equipment more expensive than what's in the vault? Aren't they supposed to be smart?

>>87530928
Anybody who grew up with BTAS does.

>>87530920
You don't even realize what I'm mocking.
I might climax right here, right now, honestly.

>>87530863
I'll do you one better, I'll give you three.

>Death of Captain Stacy
>Unmasking Spider-Man
>Web of Death


>Doc Ock marrying Aunt May

>>87530917
Neeson Ra's > Ledger Joker > Molina Ock > Big guy > Scarecrow > Sandman > Dafoe Golbin

>>87530934
Do you like Flash villains?

>>87530822
>huuuur its the time

Bulshit.

Tell me them Namor iconic vilains, because he is almost as old as Batman.

Anyway, the fact that Spidey has more than 60 years with barely any iconic story with a speciphic vilain, is telling.

>>87530890
He's clearly comparing their rogues gallery, and he's right.

>>87530896
>Black Cat is literally Catwoman

This is how you can tell that someone doesn't read comics.

>>87530976
Oh, God, dude.
Ra's?
Neeson Ra's was horrendous.

>>87530890
Spiderfags are the worst chatacterfags tho, literally worship the chatacter in a patethic way.

>>87530920
>Chameleon
>Shapeshifter.

You're joking, right?

>>87531007
He was awesome villian in terms of nolanverse which is awesome as elseworld. Liam did a great job.

>>87530255
>I don't know, I think it depends. You can't tell me Will o' the Wisp is better than Two Face.

That's as fair a comparison as Doc Ock and the Ten-Eyed Man.

>>87530998
Freeze is Batman's only good villain.

>>87531020
You clearly have missed all the bat wank threads.

>>87530985
Namor has never been popular. It's not comparable.

Anyway, "barely"? What about the Death of Gwen Stacy, the Death of Captain Stacy, the Master Planner arc, the various Hobgoblin arcs, Kraven's Last Hunt-

>>87531020
>this complete lack of self awareness
The batfag proves the point. Bravo.

>>87530977
They usually do it for hobby, Spider's vilains are just dumb.

>>87531048
>Kraven's Last Hunt-
Only valid thing, the rest is far from really iconic or good.

>>87531021
Yes, nigga can't even shapeshift.

>>87531080
>They usually do it for hobby
That's a stupendously weak excuse.

Is there any good stories about spider's villains outside of superior foes?

>>87530985
>BULSHIT
>SPECIPHIC
Are you for real
I'm so turned on right now desu

Marvel shills on suicide watch

It must suck when Superman and Batman have all the iconic villains and people can't even remember anyone from Marvel except Loki because of meme actor bait

>>87531040
>>87531058
There is a difference between batwank and this >>87529219

>>87531108
Better than "because they are idiots".

>>87530149
Of course. Spider Man's enemies are varied, interesting, with their own powers. They also number Venom among the, the best villain in comics. Batman has a dozen varieties of psycho for enemies, it's boring.

>>87531127
Axis Carnage and Hobgoblin
Scarlet Spider

>>87531155
Nah, that's kinda equally sad in my book to be honest

>>87531048
What villain is Death of Gwen Stacy a story about? As somebody who doesn't read Spider-man the only thing I know about it through cultural osmosis is Spider-man kills Gwen by catching her wrong.

I think everybody knows Killing Joke is a Joker story, Knightfall is a Bane story, and Heart of Ice is Mister Freeze though.

>>87531155
You're right. Batwank is still worse than anon's autistic love for spidey

>>87531175
You cannot defend that. That's a shit-tier excuse, dude.

>Spiderman: "Uhhhhh.... can I just ask... how many of you guys are doctors and or professionals with degrees? Most of you? Jeebus! I... have trouble making rent. Like, you guys could've gotten a nice jobs. How much does it cost to pay for a giant nutcracker robot? I bet more than you make knocking over a jewelry store!

>"I fight guys who are down on their luck and blunder into super powers, guys who can't afford dinner much less henchmen! What the fuck are you doing with your lives!? What is your standard of wealth? Is your superhero nemesis a billionaire or something?"

>>87530999
>This is how you can tell that someone doesn't read comics.

This. Black Cat is just a bootleg Catwoman.

>>87531192
Thx, I'm gonna check em. But that's not really much.

>>87531208
Autistic love is autistic love, no matter the cape>>875311

>>87531199
The Green Goblin.

>>87531213
Tbh, Riddler, Ivy, Scarecrow and Mr. Freeze could work for goverment or some labs. Pinguin could just own Aiceberg.

>>87531155
You're acting like Batfags aren't like this either.

>>87531213
based anon

>>87531219
Based on what? They both dress as cats and are theifs? They act completely different.

>>87531213
>Spider-Man ends up talking down all of Batman's villains and turns them into outstanding citizens.

This is the most likely scenario.

>>87530149
Batmans villians are better as actual characters. Also theyre DC, which automatically trumps them to marvel.

>>87531263
Ivy is a sociopath who usually hate humans. Scarecrow want to do things that would never be allowed, Riddler went straight for some time, but he is a nutjob. Penguim often want more money and influence, most realistic among them.

>>87530149

there is a serious case of the same faggin this thread

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>>87531222
Superior Spider-man counts too I suppose.
Scarlet Spider should keep you busy for a while though.

Here's some symbiote stuff if that's what you want

>>87530890
first of all, it's true, and second of all, he's talking villains, which is also true.

>>87530855
The Avengers really only have Ultron and Kang. Everyone else is just from one of their member's rogues galleries (like Zemo).

>>87530149
Lessee...Rocket Racer, The Kangaroo, The Jackal, Stegron, Rhino...

No.

>>87531347
>Scarecrow want to do things that would never be allowed
Anon we're talking about comic book governments

>>87531385
That's hardly fair, what with the Polka-Dot Man, the Ten-Eyed Man, Crazy Quilt-
Fuck, even shit-tier Spider-Man villains get cooler names than that.

>>87530149
Let's see variety vs psychopath and/or rich dude.

Gee, /such/ a hard choice.

>>87531347
Ivy is not so sociopath for long time. Also she doesn't need to work with humans much in some lab. Also he has her own arc where she worked in some university pretty successful until obvious shit happened. I bet goverment would allow Scarecrow to do some military shit. Riddler is pretty stable if some bitches will not fuck him up. Penguin actually, yeah, he is pretty much realistic.
>>87531367
Oh, man, thanx. I like sybmiotes since spider man 90s cartoon

This thread is /v/ console wars tier shit

>Jackal
>Hammerhead
>a couple others I can't really make out
Really stretching to fill space by the end there eh.

Shit they might as well doodle Judas Traveller in one upper corner and write "You win, Batman" in the other

>>87531452
ur mothr is shit

>>87531471
Is that sorry excuse for a response what qualifies for a criticism 'round these parts?

Because that's pretty fuckin lame anon

>>87531452
>Batman has no villains other than Joker
Batman literally is a PS4

>>87531263
Riddler actually has gone straight. He went back because he has a psychological compulsion to prove he's better than people.

Penguin nowadays isn't often an active theif at all unless he snaps aka Pain and Prejudice. He's a power broker and crime boss who has his finger in everything. Batman doesn't generally go after him as hard because he stabilizes the crime situation in the city.

Ivy wants to actively drive humanity to extinction. Scarecrow is a sociopath who couldn't work in any position that has any degree of medical standards. Mister Freeze is so desperate to save his wife at any cost that he's not willing to compromise his mission for other people's morality.

>>87531404
Crazy Quilt is fucking cool though. He's got a laser hat and makes costumes for people. He's like Tim Gunn fused with Cyclops.

>>87531498
>pointing out the Spidey pic is loaded with unremarkable/shitty villains
You won't see me defending Prometheus but own up to it.

>>87531471
Jackal isn't in that image though, also Hammerhead is based as fuck.

>>87531562
still weak af

>>87531550
And somehow Rocket Racer or even someone as ridiculous as Will 'o the Wisp can't be cool because of their damned powers?

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>>87531623
Didn't say they can't. I said they aren't. People didn't like Quilt but they went on and made something of him in Titans.

>>87531618
>hammerhead
>spider-man
He's a fucking Dick Tracy villain

>>87530149
Of course. They are the superior foes after all.

>>87531209
That's why Black Cat does it too.

>>87530903
>"when people think about femme fatale they think about cat-woman."
Batfag please

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>>87530149
Spider-man's arch enemy is better.

Green Goblin is far superior to The Cavalier.

they both have there ups and downs but I prefer Bats rouges they feel more unique. through i will admit there are a few too many "crazy mobster in a nice suit" characters running around gotham.

>>87530149
Batman obvpusly

>>87532165
He is right tho.

Regarding cape comics.

>>87530149
Pete's gallery is widely agreed to be the worst of any A lister for a reason. It's like if Batman's rogues were terrible and boring and had no relation to him beyond an animal theme.

>>87535511
This.