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Why doesn't Hollywood realize that sometimes in the pursuit of ***REALISM*** you make a redesign that appeals to no one?
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If Hollywood worked that way we'd be better off. But it's not, there are a few very powerful people with some success behind making movies 20, maybe 30 years ago going off of cherry-picked focus groups but ultimately what they think is the way to do things. It's more about the whims of the powerful than any measure of what the masses want.

That's why you get bland movies and that's why you follow formulas.
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>>87472989
That doesn't look realistic.
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Wow that is a totally shit-tier Megazord. It makes the Bayformers look like great designs.
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>>87472989
That actually looks less realistic then the original.
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>>87473083

More realistic than this according to Hollywood.
That's why they updated this into that.
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What am I looking at here?
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>>87472989
Jesus, that is ugly as fuck.

I do kinda like the head though. The visor's cool as fuck.

Everything else is garbage though. Fuck this trend of realism in my capeshit movies.
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>Tiny wings that will obviously get energy feathers to be bigger
>Tiny shield that will obviously expand an ergy field to get bigger
>Tiny wrist knife rather than a fucking broad sword so rather than slice the enemy in half it'll do a ***TOTALLY COOL STAB THROUGH THE HEART***
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>>87472989
>>87473138
It's not about realism, it's about the constant attempt to make something irrelevant relevant again, aka recycle an old idea in a new package to normies

Power Rangers is probably the smallest demo of "retro" geek shit there is, you had to be kidding yourself if you thought they were actually making this movie for the fans
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You are right OP, those millionaires should realize they immensely succesful movies apeal to no one.
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>>87473355
The question that arises is WHO do they expect to watch this film?

Kids won't want to watch it because it looks so dark and boring.
Nostalgic fans won't want to watch it because it lacks any of the charm that the old series had so they can't get nostalgic over it.
Regular people won't go watch it because it looks like just another dumb sci fi movie like Jupiter Rising and pass on it.

Who the fuck are they targeting?
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>>87473138
In retrospect, this Megazord had a bitchin' design.
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>>87472989
What the fuck is that?

>>87473138
Wait, really? I never would have guessed.
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>>87473463
They're throwing shit at the wall and hoping it sticks, that's all
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>>87473463
I think you're underestimating how many Redditors and normies love the whole "gritty realism," thing. I've talked to multiple people IRL who were excited for it, because "Power Rangers is finally dark now," or something like that. Like it or not, that shit sells.
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>>87472989
I need a source.
Googling "2017 megazord" just brings up outdated links, and reverse searching the image brings up "toy".
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>>87473892
https://twitter.com/powerrangers/status/794679992059727872
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>>87472989
Everyone who pushes "muh realism" in Hollywood should be marched into gas chambers
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Compare that to the OTHER 2017 Megazord
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>>87473404
>immensely successful

you mean like

>Ghostbusters (2016)
>Robocop (2014)
>Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2014)
>Terminator: Genisys
>Friday The 13th (2009)
>The Lone Ranger
>Conan the Barbarian (2011)
>Ben Hur (2016)

yes all these were massive successes
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>>87474095
I really wanted to like what that guy was doing but couldn't get into the mech's aesthetic.
Trains from the year before and this year's minecraft are okay in my book.
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>>87474145
I've only seen one movie in this list and I'm not afraid to say I enjoyed it.
Lone Ranger
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>>87474149
We're probably not gonna get either of those in PR because the next Sentai is SPAAACE-themed
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>>87474208
>the next Sentai is SPAAACE-themed
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>>87473463

You're overestimating kids and the parents who drop them off to be rid of them for a few hours of peace.

And never underestimate hipsters. Worked for Transformers.
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>>87474262
>Worked for Transformers

And didn't work for >>87474145
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What's that? The final boss of Federation Force?
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>>87474208
>the next Sentai is SPAAACE-themed
Who told you that? It's not in the /m/ Sentai general.
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>>87472989
It's not really realism, it's just Hollywood being so deathly afraid of using properly iconic appearances, and always hiring new artists who want to try way too hard to make it big by being 'unique', yet all they do is copy awful design philosophies of other bad designers.
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>>87472989
i have no idea what this is but i kinda like it.
>>87473109
wait, WHAT?
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>>87474208
COULD IT BE?
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>>87472989
.... what the fuck.
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>>87475012
Uchuu Sentai Kyuranger was trademarked a month ago.
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>>87474262
There hasn't been a single reboot/re-imagining/retelling/etc. except for said Transformers that was actually successful or made it past it's second movie.
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>>87474302

If this and the next abortion of a transformer movie doesn't make bank feel free to say I told you so
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>>87474208
>Sentai

You mean the actual Japanese show, right?
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>>87473122
The boxy designs made sense for giant combat vehicles, if you think about it.
This weird alien shit is dumb.
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Mmmmm
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>>87475676
Yes. The next Japanese Sentai is space theme
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>>87475700
I love how they really, REALLY had to stretch this to get it to look like anything even roughly approximating what we see in the movie.
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>>87472989

I could eat a bunch of LEGOs and literally shit out something that looks better.

Everything about this Power Rangers movie sucks so hard that it makes the original look like a work of fucking Tarantino in comparison.
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>>87475703
I wonder if the Japanese folks ever got around to seeing Power Rangers in Space.
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>>87474145
Those were mistimed - they're all based on franchises from the 80s or older, and the earliest of them is from 2009. The 80s nostalgia wave had already crested by then, but companies kept going after them. They're only just now realizing there's more money to be made in pandering to 90s kids, who're now the same demographic as 80s kids were in the oughties.
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>>87475700
I kinda like the pink head and wings

Pink zords are rarely pink and they aren't usually this visible on the Megazord

Not sure why they switched Black and Yellow's positions
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>A TV show designed to sell toys
>Adapted from a TV show designed to sell toys
>Belonging to a FIFTY GODDAMN YEAR OLD franchise designed with the EXPRESS PURPOSE of selling toys
>With a very specific design philosophy of making toys to sell
>And making sure the toys being sold look good

>LET'S MAKE A MOVIE
>WITH DESIGNS THAT CAN UNDER NO REASONABLE CIRCUMSTANCE LOOK LIKE TOYS THAT CAN BE SOLD

One job.

ONE
FUCKING
JOB.

I don't even feel like I'm asking for too much. I'm not saying you have to be 100% faithful to the source material. You don't even need to go full on "Primary colored bricks" with the megazord.
Just go watch Pacific Rim. Or the recent Godzilla. Both movies had a perfect balance between on-screen believably and being fundamentally toyetic. It's not fucking hard.
Pacific Rim is a perfect visual template for this kind of thing!
But no.
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>>87473852
Mang, if they want edgy power rangers, tell them to just go watch Jetman or Liveman. Jetman has multiple on screen deaths and a apartment building that eats people with gore rising up through the drains while Liveman opens with a whole academy being blasted to pieces with again multiple on screen deaths and only gets worse from there.
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>>87476123
Those kind of people think Japanese shit is too far into the nerd hole, but somehow their Power Rangers and Dragonballs are immune to that scrutiny.

I know too many people like that. It's infuriating.
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>>87476001
Forty
It's only been about 41 years
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>>87475628
Jungle Book, I guess? That's the only one that comes to mind.
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>>87472989

They tacticool'd the fucking Megazord...
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>>87472989
I don't want to knock them for trying something different, but that's just not working for me at all.
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This is my favorite example of Hollywood design philosophy.

This is from a school teaching art for films, on a project to redesign Bubblegum Crisis. Flip ahead to 2:27

https://youtu.be/XKLZ7VSR9qw
>This is an old IP, so we need to update this for today's audiences, like Transformers.
>So we need to make the suits more "real world" so they don't look plasticky. We need leather and carbon fiber!

These people are cancerous.
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>>87475965
>every reboot failed
>clearly the problem is that we need more reboots!
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I think you guys under estimate how popular PR is.
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>>87474095
meanwhile
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>>87476881

Fuck that guy with a rake.
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>>87472989
Who;'s the fag that approved this?
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>>87476881

Why I can't speak for him as he's clearly doing that all I can say is more often than not producers have the final say on the design regardless of how much we try to get them to maybe consider something to make the fans happy

>worked on PR concept art
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>>87477504
>worked on PR concept art

So this is your fault.
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>>87474095
only Shinobimaru was decent.
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>>87474145
Friday the 13 is underestimated. it was nice to get back to human jason.
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I don't get why they don't hire japs when it comes to mecha design.
They have guys whose jobs are literally to design mecha.
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>>87477100
Zyuohger is a good show
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>>87472989
Why the fuck is Hollywood so bad at mech design? They just repainted a Pacific Rim jaeger and even kept the hand sword. And jaegers are no great shakes themselves.
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>>87478131
because muh realism
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>>87478328
This. No fun allowed.
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>>87478131
>>87478328
Answered it perfectly.
Audiences eat it up sadly.
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>>87473852
God damnit. I could tolerate this garbage if there were alternatives, but they crowd them out and take up funding, not even getting their fair market share. Good content is a miracle that rarely happens.
I remember how those critiquing remakes as "soulless" were mocked over 20 years ago when I was a teenager, but they were right. I wanted to be open minded about new things, but it's not new.

>>87473065
I think it's fluctuates. Powerful people with bad taste overrule the marketing when they feel like it, which is why you get shit, and why the carefully crafted ones are so successful, at least when the market research is done properly.
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>>87472989
It looks cool but less realistic than this:
>>87473138
Which also looks cool. What's going on here? The second one would be more "realistic" in the sense that it looks less advanced and would be more likely to be made in real life.
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>>87472989
>pink ranger is now the head
thanks tumblr
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>>87473065
The Warner Bros Entertainment story
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>>87474145
because they all lacked one thing transformers and power rangers have, giant robots
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>>87480773
Head AND wings based on >>87475700

I guess it's better than being a kilt?
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This is the ugliest fucking toy I've ever seen. Fucking unnapealing and mesh together like it was thrown in a fucking blender. Jesus Christ this looks like ass.
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>>87480773
That was also the case for the Ninja Megazord, you retarded /pol/fag.
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>>87474149
I hate that Toqger isn't getting PR treatment.
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>>87477949
> Obari Megazord
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>>87481149
Ninja Megazord's head was a white ranger in the original, hence the heavy white theme. Same reason the Shogun Megazord is depicted with a white arm in the original until they made it pink for the toy.
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>>87472989
I'll just say what just about everyone on /m/ said about it already: why does it look more like a guy in a suit than the version that actually is

>>87477100
Zyuoh mechs (and Toq who had a similar design gimmick) make pretty good suits in the show but the toys look horrendous because of the individual parts being big cubes that stack and unfold. The whole thing ends up incredibly, well, blocky.
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>>87473138
On one hand it's a poor man's Grendizer. On the other hand Grendizer's design is so awesome, even its inferior version looks awesome.
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>>87481817
The White Ranger's Falcon Zord wasn't even apart of the initial Ninja Megazord. Pink Crane was the head and White Falcon attached to the back and folded its wings between the arms to act as laser cannons.
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>>87483041
Oops, I meant the Falcon was the wings for the Ninja Megazord and folded between the arms of the Shogun Megazord.
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>>87483041
The Falcon zord was a completely separate zord in the original Sentai, it wasn't part of the same set as the Ninja zords. The White ranger just had 3 zords which is why the Falcon zord could combine with both the Ninja Megazord and the Shogun Megazord
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