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Alison was right. Although she currently fails to reconcile

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Alison was right.

Although she currently fails to reconcile her internalization of moral obligations with the action of compelling Max's assistance, that does not render her actions and intended results any less ideal.
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preston or whatever his name is can eat my dick
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>>87310306
i mean max
w/e
he can eat my dick
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>>87310306
>that does not render her actions and intended results any less ideal.

She gave her telepathic, supervillain not-boyfriend a massive power boost. He's probably a full blown mind controller now which is problematic seeing as he's an aggressive business exec with no sense of ethics or scruples. Her friend who is a serial killer also got a massive power boost.
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>>87310553
It's clarified that Max's ability was used world or even country wide. If it was that long-reaching, why even transport him at all?

But yeah, fuck mind-reader guy serial-killer chick.
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>>87310306
DAMMIT WOMAN! SHAVE THOSE LEGS!
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>>87310646
*isn't
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Why are her legs hairy enough to merit little skitch marks but not a single man has had arm hair, chest hair, stubble, etc. pronounced enough to merit them this whole comic?


What a mysterious sequence of events, I say.
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>>87310848
Narrative shorthand.
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>>87310306

Max should have try to overcharge into a bloated mass of of cancer.
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>>87310306
Yeah, I get the point. She did a bad thing to one guy to do a good thing for millions, and it was so EASY, and now there's gonna be this whole slippery-slope thing, how far is too far, yadda yadda. But there's a gigantic hole in this set-up that just shatters my suspension of disbelief.

If Feral's capable of regenerating entire organs in minutes, how the fuck is any surgical team going to keep her open long enough to get them out? You want a heart? Good luck, when the breastbone is constantly closing itself up every 15 seconds or so. Hell, good luck getting past the first incision!

This power boost shouldn't have helped anybody, hell, it should've screwed Feral's infinite-organ-donor schtick completely over. And yet it has and does, purely for the sake of Allison's character arc.

The world is revolving around making a set series of events happen to a character to give that character a reason to feel a certain way, when the world should be responding to the character's actions logically and delivering believable consequences, and THEN that character responds to build their development.

Instead, the writer's built an arc, planned everything around that arc, fucked up the delivery, and the comic as a whole has suffered.

For an example of a slippery-slope descent into villainy done better, see pic related.
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Wasn't there another thing where someone with super-healing essentially became a permanent organ donor? Pretty sure it didn't end well for them.
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>>87311627
That's them right there in the OP.
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>>87311800
>wasn't there ANOTHER thing

I think you missed a key word in that question.
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>>87311626
I don't even get the organ donor thing. You have a being capable of puling absurd quantities of mass from bloody nowhere. You would think it would be more worthwhile to figure out how the hell and a half she's doing that.

"Well, we could like, get organs and shit from this chick...or figure out the root of her powers and revolutionize nearly everything ever."

The implications of a power like that are staggering. It completely ignores conservation of energy and makes entropy cry bitch tears. Even if the only thing that could be done was to replicate the generation of living tissue, that's still absurdly useful. The entire meat industry could be overhauled, and that is literally thinking as small as possible.

There are beings capable of straight up ignoring fundamental laws of the universe. Why would conventional surgery be the first course of action instead of attempting to understand how the fuck her abilities, and the abilities of others, function?
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>>87312036
I mean, the same could be said of literally any other character with a healing factor; or any superpower at all, for that matter.

This is why Cape comics usually don't deal with their characters' powers revolutionizing the world - because it just breaks too much shit such that it doesn't resemble the reader's world anymore.

I admire the fact that the comic is at least trying to attempt that, even if it does it in a half-assed and not-fully-thought-out way that leaves a bunch of plot holes.
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>>87310306
Unless the power boost turns out to be temporary. And when Alison returns to Max, he's done the only thing he can do to take back control of his life and killed himself.

Which leaves Feral having to go back into constant surgery, and any good that might have come from Max's ability lost.
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>>87313700
>And when Alison returns to Max, he's done the only thing he can do to take back control of his life and killed himself.

or hire super villains to protect him in exchange for more power.
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>>87310306
what is this comic?
tried reverse image search and got nothing
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>>87312036
Are you joking? "Figure out the root of her powers"? Have you ever read any kind of superhero fiction in your entire life? Powers just work. If there is any kind of mechanism to them it's usually just "genes" or "magic". The only way anyone is going to replicate a superpower is if they have a superpower which allows them to do that.
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>>87314746
Strong Female Protagonist. And no, the title really isn't used in irony.
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>>87314746
Strong Female Protagonist.
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>>87310306
Filthy cave dwelling legbeards.
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>>87314787
It is a double entendre though.
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>>87310306
When the end results are so perfect and the costs are so understated, it is almost like someone is trying to hide the ugly parts.
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who keeps making these threads
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I stopped reading this at the part where she went to that intersectional conference. I was able to tolerate the progressive politics up until then because the comic is intelligently written, but that shit was just silly.

Should I pick it up again? Or is it still riduculous
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>>87314880
>Patrick's telepathy becomes so powerful he is rendered unable to function in society as he can no longer distinguish between something said something thought
>Moonshadow can now make herself completely undetectable by any means, leaving her free to murder as she fits
>Cleaver is now a giant, immobile mass of tumors unable to die
>Paladin's intelligence has increased to the point where she is unable to interact with other humans and spends her days creating bizarre, Roadside Picnic-esque devices
>Feral is crippled by continuous autoimmune disorders as her immune system goes haywire
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>the most narratively satisfying thing to happen would be if this slowly backfired and turned into a fucking horror comic about the hubris of this superhero girl basically making everything shittier because she didn't leave well enough alone, classic Greek myth shit
>instead none of the interesting or even logical things will happen because this is a comic that pretends to be a deconstruction and an exploration when really it just has a pre determined stance on the morality if the world and everything will warp itself, even in unsatisfying and annoyingly contrived and convenient ways, to fit that stance
>doesn't even have any noteworthy artistry ir spectacle to make up for it

What a masturbatory waste of everyone's time
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>>87316610
The moment the comic mentioned that due to demographics the majority of supers were born in severe poverty or in the third world and never brought it up again is the moment I realized the comic was a giant waste of time. It inadvertently highlighted how the series is basically "upper middle class white girl problems" with superpowers. Alison can't ponder the uselessness of superheroes to change the world if a Boko Haram biodynamic massacres a military base or Brazilian biodynamics burn down Sao Paulo as collateral damage in a superpowered gang war.
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>>87317328
This comic pisses me off more than Sinfest and Walkyverse combined, because SFP is so fucking close to being good. It's so close to beautiful deconstruction but falls short every fucking time and I hate it so much.
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>>87312036
They've tried. However they just can't crack it. Sort of like how in real life the best treatments for cancer we've come up with is nuking it.

Also the whole point of this particular person is that she is short sighted and wants to help in a big way in the fastest way possible. Being an organ bank is pretty damn direct vs. being poked and prodded for a potential future discovery.
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>>87314199
Alison is this universe's supermen/wonder woman. The strongest and most invulnerable person. Super villain protection wouldn't save max.
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>>87310306
this has to be the dumbest thing ive ever read
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>>87317476
I'm not part of the anti-SJW/feminism crowd, but even I get downright annoyed by this comic at times.

I think your reasoning is mine, too, ultimately.
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>>87317518
>>87312036
They won't keep her under to harvest new organs, but how about this- what if they kept her under, took out her organs and then just dropped them into a turbine that could generate electricity

You have an infinite form of mass that can create 10 hearts in a minute (300g average heart weight * 10 3kg). That's 3kg in gravitational energy every minute with the heart alone.

Any engineers want to try estimate how much energy you could generate that way?
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>>87317518
Strictly speaking there is nothing stopping people from poking and prodding her while she's being an organ bank.

>>87317476
Other things far more interesting in the comic include the fact that biodynamic children are legally adults for the purpose of contracts which would mean that you could have a strong legal argument that statutory and age of consent laws don't apply to them. Patrick has functionally enslaved another biodynamic. And world governments have a conspiracy to cover up Feral's organ donations that would include gross lapses in medical ethics.

The idea that most superpowers aren't really beneficial to crime fighting and that any supervillain who isn't bulletproof is going to get shot by cops in short order was a great starting place, it just fizzled out.
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>>87317571
Honestly, his best course of action would be either:

a) Get Super HERO protection, explaining exactly what his predicament is, just leaving the identity of his oppressor undefined, while being completely up-front about what she's doing to him. Then have Alison have to deal with that when she shows up next time, even if she can obviously beat them/try to explain herself, and have word get out to the hero community/dead heroes to explain away.

b) Getting his congresswoman mother to extend him a Secret Service protection detail. As above, but have Alison have to beat up government agents, instead.

They won't beat her, but there would be consequences.
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>>87317787
All he really needs to say is that after finding out he had the ability to boost superhuman powers, Alison assaulted him and threatened to kill him unless he boosted her powers.
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>>87313038
It makes sense in that one company's universe where giant ancient spacemen exist, at least.

I mean, those folks are the only sentinent creatures that evolved naturally, so they work in line with unlimited energy and lossless mass-to-energy-conversion the universe has going on. Everybody else are species they seeded and consciously stunted so that half of the universes' natural laws don't even apply to them.
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>>87317869
Doesn't even need to lie. "Unless he used his power for her".
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Ok, wild idea here, but what if we shipped Lizard Girl to Africa/India and solved world hunger?
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>>87318079
World hunger is more of an issue about logistics than the actual amount of food available.

It would basically be the same problem as getting all the organs delivered, except with the additional caveats of humane food preservation, making sure the delivery isn't co-opted by local warlords, nutrition (because lizard girl jerky doesn't have a lot of vitamins), and a whole lot of other shit that I don't remember because I haven't taken World Hunger 101 in years
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>>87318153
The answer is that Alison will solve all those problems. Food preservation? Just hurl the cases of Feral jerky across the world. Co-opted by warlords? Rip and tear. Nutrition? She just tortures Max until he boosts her powers enough that she can beat up vitamin deficiencies.
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>>87316296
>>87310553
where are people getting this from? why do you think Max boosted everyone's powers, not just the person whose bed he had to go stand next to?
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>>87318773
I dunno, it isn't implied at all.
Maybe people can't accept that an act is wrong even if it has positive consequences simply because the means were wrong and they want their to be bad consequences too?
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>>87318153
I get the logistics part, but we could make a little mobile meat packing/preserving van, right?

Let's say she has 4 limbs and weighs ~160 lbs from being so full of muscle and waifu material. Google says that an arm is about 5.3% of bodyweight, a leg, 17.5%. Her arms weight 8.48 lbs each, and each leg 28.48 lbs. If her heart weighs takes 8 seconds to rejuvenate, let's say each limb takes 20 seconds. 86,400 (seconds in a day) / 20 (seconds for a new arm) *4 (number of limbs) = 17280 (limbs donated) * 2(8.48+28.48)=

1,277,337.6 lbs of food she produces a day, just from limbs.

At that rate, she might just solve the energy crisis if we use her as firewood to heat up steam.

But we have over a millions pounds of food to work with (I'm including bone for the marrow). It's very simple to make some device to distribute food across the continents.


>Pic related: Operation End World Hunger (Pat. Pending
>1. Van for driving
>2(a-d) Blades (saw or otherwise) to cut limbs individually
>3. Lizard girl
>4. I forgot 4
>5. Optional dicking hole. If we really want to be efficient, we'll have multiple drivers take shifts. Think of this as entertainment, or a sold service to guro enthusiasts to help offset the cost of Operation: EWH.
>6. Support standing bar on outside of van for 5.
>7. Harness to hold 3. down
>8(a-d) Holes and chutes to distribute limbs among the roadside as you drive through the villages and cities. Want food? Literally pick it up off the ground, the van to end hunger stops for no one.

We don't even need to preserve it, we're working with so much food. There will be food to spare.

Did I just make a venture into Guro/charity porn?
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>>87319053
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>>87317764
Well as far as I know a heart (and blood) would be pretty useless as a working fluid and solids aren't really used in turbInes. So none.
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>>87319053
Anon you have probably put more work into that picture than the author has into the entire plot of this comic.

>>87317764
>>87317771
See above and >>87317476

The author is working with/laying down the ground work for a very interesting world. But its pretty damn clear that she is too narrow minded/incapable of capitalizing on it. I don't want to say she is trying to get SJW points as the entire special powers arc read like a mocking comedy skit. Rather she just seems to focus on Alison at the cost of the far, far, far more interesting world.
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>>87318773
>>87318814
It's a funnier and more interesting scenario.
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>>87319053
Well, any self respecting Utilitarian would have to agree to that plan, right?
The net value isn't negative, so let's do this thing.
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>>87311626
>>87312036

You idiots are so arbitrary. It doesn't merit an explanation, it just is.
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>>87319053

Anon, you need to stop. You're advocating for like 60% of humanity to go cannibal.
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>>87319896
Carbon costs for the van and potentially from cooking fires would need to be offset. Perhaps grab a fire/heat generating super to travel with Operation: EWH to flash cook the limbs before they're distributed.

>>87319363
Given her regenerative capacity you could extract a theoretically infinite amount of blood from her.
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>>87311626
It could just be as easy as holding her open with like chunks of metal tha she can't heal around,
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>>87316296
>Roadside Picnic
Get out of here, mah stalker!
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>>87317869
>>87317787
Except Allison can prove that he only boosted Feral, and talk about what Feral has done.

You really think the public would be on Max's side with "My plan was to let someone suffer forever and thousands of people die due to organ failure because I was afraid my life MIGHT be in danger, and also objectivism." They won't be, and Max fucking knows it.
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>>87320295
Except now she's back to force him to do someone else without his consent.

Besides, Feral doesn't exactly have a reputation as a sane or well-minded person with her whole martyrdom bit. Forcing him to help her be even MORE of an insane martyr isn't exactly the same as 'not letting someone suffer'. She could've stopped at any time.

Plus, he can mention the death threats and the physical torture, and she wouldn't be able to deny it, because she's too much of a psychopath to be able to lie convincingly.
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>>87310306
>Cellulite and unshaven legs

I will never understand the need to draw this.
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>>87319053
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>>87310306
Haso Max even tested his powerst before ? How does Allison know Feral and the people she donates too won't turn into giant masses of cancer?
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>>87320723
She knows it is safe because some random doctor who has no way of testing Max's power or knowing of his existence says so.
Feral is also an universal donor and the donated organs are better accepted than close genetic matches normally would be, because the comic says so.
Also, one single person is able to cover the entire world's need for donor organs, while still not regenerating quick enough to make surgery on her impossible, because the comic says so.
Stop thinking, the comic says it's all perfect.
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>>87310306
of course she´s right, she a mary sue
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>>87320505
>getting upset that a girl named Feral is hairy
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>>87320943
To be fair with the surgery bit, that's usually how regenerators work in most mediums. If shit is still attached but hanging off by a thread (like a pried open rib cage or an arm hanging by a thread) the body doesn't usually regenerate a new set since that would leave a "duplicate"

Because really, those of you saying she'd regenerate back through surgery are basically saying she'd end up with two rib cages. One that grows over her organs and the old set that is pried open but still attached
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>>87320723
He had to have used it previously in order for them to figure out what his power actually was.

Of course, that was a long time ago, and he's made a point of not using it since. But given the gradual changes everyone else has been experiencing with their powers, I wouldn't rule out it all going horribly wrong still.

Could easily be that accelerating her regeneration also reduces her lifespan.
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>>87321141
Huh, how dead is the guy whose powers Max first boosted?
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>>87320411
Technically she's being less of an insane martyr since she's spending less total time being harvested even if her output increases.

Also, Feral seems bizarrely resistant to suffering from ceaseless torture for at least several months.Does her healing somehow extend to mental damage as well as physical? Because if that's the case then that makes the ethics of it more complicated if Feral can't suffer permanent mental trauma.
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>>87320943
>while still not regenerating quick enough to make surgery on her impossible
So the regeneration doesn't start immediately. She repairs damage abnormally fast, but the processes that initially react to it are still normal.
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>>87321333
>be superhero
>small powers, basically early superman.
>really strong, but it's all muscle growth
>can't fly, just jump really high
>guy contacts me, claims he can boost my powers
>does some ghost voodoo glowy things
>suddenly feel more powerful
>open door
>don't even feel it, just rip it off hinges accidentally
>worldofcardboard.mp3
>try to jump back home
>jump into orbit
>haven't come down yet.
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>>87321407
Good people doing good things for good reasons don't get PTSD from trauma related to those good things.

Good social workers don't get burnt out, good doctors eternally harvesting Feral while she's conscious don't get PTSD, good soldiers defending foreign civilians don't get PTSD when said civilians get blown up by suicide bombers in front of them, good super heroes don't get PTSD from being carved up like a fucking turkey with no anasthetic for months on end.

Only rape victims get PTSD.

But only the, you know, pussy rape victims, not the tough ones.

And definitely NOT male victims of violence and threats of death inflicted by unstoppable super-powered women. Because it was for a good cause!
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>>87321547
Man, this fucking comic.

It makes me post like I'm from /pol/, even when I halfway see the upside of that whole 'I should just kill everyone from /pol/' fantasy line of thought of the very character I post angrily about half the time in these threads.
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>>87320295
The organ donation is secret, remember?

Plus Max's moral argument is the same if Feral was forced into the organ donation scheme.
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>>87321333
Depends on their power. Not everything is going to be detrimental when you crank it up to overdrive, like the big blade guy.
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>>87321649
I'm saying that Max (or, more specifically, his mom) had whoever he boosted assassinated to protect Max's secret.
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>>87317787
Didn't she already threaten to kill a whole group of people on live TV, with no consequences?

They know there's nothing they can do to stop her, so they just keep her placated.
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>>87321627
I'm pretty sure it's not, only Feral's location and the people she specifically donates to is a secret.

Remember there were huge protests where her location was leaked, a man with a flamethrower killed a bunch of doctors, so Allison murdered him and then threatened the crowd?
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Still doesn't make sense that only her organ regeneration got the boost, and not the rest of her tissue. But then again, this entire story line is designed to console the reader. Alison makes a 'hard choice' and picks the 'greater good' over one rich man's personal autonomy.
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>>87321547
I've been saying forever that it should really fuck up the doctors who are doing that to Feral, even if it's fully consensual on her part. Especially if it's consensual, because, even if somehow Feral is perfectly sane, it'll probably still feel to the surgeons that they're taking advantage of a mentally ill person because what Feral is doing is hard to rationalize.

>>87321775
Eh, they just need to keep her flesh held open. Also it's not really consoling the reader, it's meant to be complicated. Like would the universe bending over backwards to make things go badly be better writing? I say it would be even worse.
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>>87321775
The storyline isn't over yet.
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>>87321847
>Like would the universe bending over backwards to make things go badly be better writing?

Depends on how they go about it. Alison's plan actually making it more difficult for them to continue harvesting Feral is a perfectly fine alternative outcome.

>>87321725
Nobody thinks about ways to harm her other than brute forcing it.
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>>87310697

She's been in constant surgery for months. There'd be no reason for them to shave her legs for her. But I hope she keeps them natural anyway. That shit's hot.
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>>87319483
>she
the writer is a dude
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>>87311626

She has super-healing, but she's not super-strong or super-tough. There's no indication that simply holding her ribcage open with clamps or whatever wouldn't work.
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>>87314880

This whole chapter has been teasing that Alison is going to go down the road of a "I can make everyone happy if they just do exactly what I say" style tyrant.

That wouldn't be the case if her actions showed immediate blowback to the extent that she can easily say "oh, well I guess I shouldn't do that then".
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>>87321916
it's not like there's going to be unforeseen consequences here, it's not that kind of comic

or if there are unforeseen consequences like Feral turning into an immobile mass of cancer cells unable to die, Alison will blame power-boost guy and be portrayed as right to do so
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>>87322273
You're an idiot if you think that. The comic spends half its run talking about how Allison is really sort of an idiotic tyrant who just wants everything and everyone to be perfect without any real perspective on people or the world.
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>>87318153

I don't think even "one heart a minute" tier regeneration is enough food to solve world hunger. You couldn't feed a single country's homeless with that.
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>>87322379
and yet she has yet to face any consequences or even anyone who isn't portrayed as wrong telling her she's being an asshole. The comic's been running for 4 years now and she's still in the same place as she was at the beginning.
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>>87320505

What cellulite?
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>>87321407
>Also, Feral seems bizarrely resistant to suffering from ceaseless torture for at least several months.

I thought that too. Of course, she just woke up. She's probably still high off of the initial release right now. You'd probably have to let her get back down to "normal" before you see the long-term effects.
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>>87322216
I thought the immediate blowback was that she headslammed a dude into a table and resorted to death threats and torture.
Those are the ugly parts I'm sure she wants no one else in the world to know.
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>>87321627
>The organ donation is secret, remember?

Not THAT secret. I can't remember if the receivers know whose organs they're getting, but when Feral started surgery, protestors lined up in front of the facility screaming about freak organs being implanted in unknowing human beings.
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>>87322379

Where's the payoff then? It's been 4 years, and Allison is still missus "always right" and madam "beating up the evil patriarchy".

I can't wait until she's enforcing privilege checking patrols across the city, and she's portrayed as a hero for it.
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>>87322379
i could buy that if there was any meaningful negative consequences from Alison's actions. all that's happened is characters who we're supposed to hate keep calling her out and that's it
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>>87321847
>Like would the universe bending over backwards to make things go badly be better writing?

Except it wouldn't be bending over backwards. Like others pointed out, if she's regenerating so fast she puts Deadpool on his best to shame, how are they keeping her open?

Also, it would make sense withn the story tone. That's one of the main points isn't it? You can force people to do shit, you can't punch your way into solution, and that's what she did by threatening the guy.
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>>87322595

Yes, but while she clearly feels guilty about it, it's not enough to stop her from doing it again.

Some of /co/ thinks the author is trying to say Alison was 100% in the right because Feral isn't immediately going full Akira.
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>>87322496
This part of the comic has been extremely drawn out, but that also is a recurring flaw of the character. She has absolutely no perspective of the world or other people precisely because she faces no consequences for her actions, and everybody but her knows she never will. Even lots of her close associates don't really involve her in things, because they know she doesn't understand complicated situations or imperfect people. When there's somebody she doesn't like, even if they dislike her for completely legitimate reasons (which the comic sometimes waffles on but not always) they are immediately removed from her life. If she commits criminal behavior or causes outright destruction, she isn't arrested because the world straight up does not know how. If she is seen to be wrong on an issue, she just leaves whoever dissed her and bitches to somebody who will call her right even if she isn't. She's completely sheltered and ignorant, and will remain that way as long as she's willing to stay that way because, as the invincible Superman, she has absolutely no way to have consequences or fallback inflicted upon her by someone else.
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>>87322710
Nah, the tone of the comic is unintended consequences usually, but the theme of this arc is clearly questioning whether doing the right thing means doing good or sticking by your ideals. Allison betrayed her ideals and acted as a violent tyrant, but that got her exactly what she wanted. That's a more interesting dilemma than if it had all screwed up and turned Feral into some sort of cancer-monster. She can't call what she did a clear mistake because it worked, but she also can't be proud of it or happy with it because she knows she was a straight up supervillain there. It calls back to Mr. Psychic and his amoral heroics agenda.
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>>87322814
She's Russia or America rolled up into a single person.

All the power necessary to bully and kill anyone she wants, no one can defeat her with force, and if they were to try too hard, there's the fear that she'd snap and completely fuck up the world irreparably, killing millions, or even billions, in the process.

No matter how selfish or wrong she may be acting at any given time, nobody can actually FORCE her to do anything, or not do anything, she doesn't want to/sets her mind on doing.

Hell, that's not even a good enough analogy, because there isn't another roughly equally dangerous person out there to act as a check on her behavior at the most extreme edge of things. From what we can tell, the actual US and Russia can't even threaten her.
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>>87310306
This comic sucks.
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>>87323007
I dunno about that. If she actually snapped, a nuke would probably wreck her.
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>>87323007
>"Miss Green, you are under arrest for destruction of property, several cases of negligent homicide, threatening of large crowds with death, assault, and flying in restricted air spaces."
>"I did those things to make the world a better place. You can't arrest me, I have to safe the world."
>Cop pulls out device.
>"What's that, a superweapon? Don't make me laugh."
>"Sort of."
>Cop's phone dials directly to Alison's family.
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>>87322967
The arc literally just started. Given that Alison was shown to be a more sensible and cautious person back when she was 16 years old and the general theme of the comic, It' be crappy writing if it didn't backfire somehow. Maybe Max will snap and either kill himself, or amp up a bunch of villains. Maybe his powers have some weird side effect.
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>>87323939
>The arc literally just started
>Issue 6, Page 93
If anything, it's nearly over. This arc started with the philosophy class, not with the power boost.
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>>87310306
So wait what happened?
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>>87319957
>It just is!

Ah, yes, the slogan of any literary masterpiece.
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>>87321407
I'd also worry about the doctors. I mean, they're literally having to vivisect someone for hours at a time, over and over and over again. That's gotta fuck somebody up in the head.
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>>87325131
power boost man boosted Feral's powers so now her organs regenerate so quickly that they can pop out a bunch in a couple hours

and everything is fine
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>>87323801
You cannot possibly be this stupid.

If threatening one person to save Feral and help a lot of people is wrong, then threatening multiple people to make Allison do what the Government wants can't possibly be morally correct by any measure.
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To throw in an actual comic analogue, did anyone ever give Elixir shit about not making more people cancer free, or effectively immortal?

Hell, I'm sure there's been at least one "Why don't one of Marvel's many resident super-geniuses cure cancer, world hunger, or AIDS instead of creating sweet power armor" discussions floating around.
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>>87326828
Except Feral was doing it by her own free choice. She didn't do it to save Feral, she did it to be more convenient for Feral. Threatening multiple people she she'll comply with government demands is the correct thing to do, as Alison is responsible for several deaths and extensive amounts of property damage, from a moral utilitarian view. Also I'm pretty sure the phone call to Alison's parents is an attempt to get them to talk Alison down. At the very least, formally attempting to arrest Alison would mean she'd be resisting arrest and being a wanted fugitive.
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>>87327174
Logically speaking the Marvel and DC universes should be much better off than our own, but most comic book writers aren't -that- creative and editors don't care enough to keep it consistent.
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>>87328849
For awhile before Flashpoint the DCU was depicted as being slightly more advanced than the real world. The MCU, but not the MU, isn't stated to be more advanced, but has functional nuclear fusion and bioprinting.
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>>87329038
>has functional nuclear fusion
Wait what?

Shouldn't that change... a lot?
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>>87329384
The Arc reactor is a tokamak reactor. It's especially obvious in the first movie.
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>>87327174
Well, tying it back to the philosophy class at the beginning of this chapter, any time someone has tried to make a big change in the Marvel world, they have been a villain, because you cannot force people to act in the better interests of the entire world.

The Pheonix 5, The Maker, etc. If people would just shut up and be ruled by benevolent dictators, the world would be much better. But noooooo, governments have to be elected by the people, because the electorate knows whats best for themselves, and corporations definitely don't own congress.
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>>87329689
but a benevolent dictatorship is what led to the fall of Rome
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>>87329689
>>87329868
There is also the fact that four of the Phoenix Five went mad with power and the Maker could have easily secured control through non-violent means within a few years due to sheer economic advantage.
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The last I saw of this comic posted on /co/, the titular character was manhandling somebody and threatening to drop him into the ocean if he didn't give up his regenerating organs to people who needed them.

So what did I miss between then and now?
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>>87330030
No see, someone with regenerating organs was already giving up her own to people who need them, and in the process essentially being vivisected continuously.

The guy the main character was threatening has the power to boost other's abilities, and the main character wanted him to use it on the regenerator so she wouldn't need to be in constant surgery. He didn't want to, so she threatened him. It looks like her gambit paid off.
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>>87316610
Welcome to modern storytelling, anon.
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>>87330340
Oh.

Wait, did you explain it right? If an amplifier like the guy being threatened were to help a person with regenerating organs, then the most they'd be able to do is let them regenerate organs faster. That would just put them in more surgery if they choose to go in more often; all that would really change is the wait time between surgeries.
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>>87330460
She's apparently at the point where they can just rip her torso open and chop out organs without a care. Even before she got boosted she would have been clearing waiting lists in a few months. Given the way it works she'd probably wind up forcing herself into more surgery as plentiful organs for donations with zero risk of complications or rejection means that getting a new organ is now the most effective method of treatment. Why get a bypass when you can get a new heart? Diabetes? New pancreas. Don't worry about quitting smoking, they'll just pop some new lungs in you.
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Put the fucking title of the comic in the thread title you fucking cunt. I have that fucking shit filtered for a reason. My blood pressure spikes to unhealthy levels when I even see a thumbnail of this fucking shit. You will genuinely kill me if you keep this shit up so please, have a heart.
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>>87330818
You've got some stress issues, man. You should see someone about them. Talk to a counselor. Get some Xanax. Start chain-smoking. Toke it up. Drink heavily then point a gun at your head while singing "Happiness is a Warm Gun" and pulling the trigger only to have it fall on an empty chamber as you start crying because you're too much of a pussy to go through with it. Take up stamp collecting. Hire a decently priced hooker to do all the sex shit you're too afraid to bring up in a relationship.
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>>87330790
Exactly. If the problem to solve was keeping her out of surgery, boosting her powers seems like the opposite thing to do.
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>>87331192
did you even read the last couple pages, or the page that was posted in the OP
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>>87331542
The latter.

I'm going off of what >>87330340 said, that the regenerator didn't want to be in surgery as often as she was.
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>>87331542
He's saying the demand for organs would increase due to them being easily available and because of their nature it would make organ replacement a more attractive option than other forms of major surgery.
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>>87331626
Not quite, but that's also a valid point.
With organ replacement becoming more viable and, over time, possibly cheaper than surgery, a person whose lifestyle results in the destruction of organs could simply just schedule a replacement and go back to the way they were. An alcoholic whose liver is destroyed could just walk in and out with a fresh new set of parts and go right back to drinking. A smoking addict with black lungs could schedule a surgery for a new pair between smoking breaks.

It would cause organ failure to become a symptom rather than a consequence.
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>>87331586
Nah the regenerator wants it, because she wants to do the most good in the easiest way possible, also she's killed people Wolverine style and feels really bad about it.
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>>87310306
Going by the math at the top of my head I very much doubt that it can be a thing of the past.

Also one does not live forever and is clearly not a true source to rely on nor has society made the effort on there own, were as cloning organs can do a hell of a better job than whatever the fuck this is.
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>>87331956
A lot of regenerators are immune or at least really resistant to senescence though, aren't they?
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>>87332070
We know she can age, as she got her powers in utero.
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>>87332113
Well the thing with a lot of regenerators is that they can age, but once their body reaches peak development it stops growing and no longer ages.
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>>87332561
True, she'd probably continue aging until her mid-20s. Also, on a completely unrelated side note, why hasn't the government killed Feral yet? She's arguably having a far more massive impact on the globe than the kid who can talk to viruses.
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>>87320002
Chill out, anon. It's just a modest proposal.
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>>87330460

The regenerator was already in constant, around-the-clock surgery. Now, they can regenerate organs so fast that they outpace the global need (according to the doctor), so they can afford to have some time off.
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>>87332687

She would have a massive impact, but probably not an impact that would threaten any major landed powers.

Any government pulling in mad dosh from the organ transplant industry probably gets it from the storage, transport, and implantation of those implants, not from the scarcity of organs.
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>>87333422
Immunosuppressant drugs cost between $10,000 and $15,000 per year per patient. Storage, transport, and implantation is chump change when compared to long term revenue. Then you've got to consider the decline in drug revenue from medications that keep chronic conditions under management.
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>>87333422
Government powers, no. Criminal, most certainly.

As soon as somebody realizes that they can control the entire world's supply of organs for transplant by kidnapping one person...
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>>87332687
Well A: Feral is really hard to kill and B: It'd make Allison really REALLY angry.
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>>87335220
Eh, the flamethrower thing probably would have worked if the guy hadn't been interrupted. The government could pull it off, no problem. Making Allison angry is the real issue
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>>87314965

Right now it's going through this decompression thing where it's taking two months to show the effects of Alison forcing this power-booster guy (who she was obviously supposed to bribe, I mean wtf else was the point of her getting a check for 25 million along with that guy's information) in order to make super-healing lady solve the organ donation crisis.

The intersectional conference was farcical to the point of self-parody, but it at least moved at a reasonable pace.

>>87317476

Same, anon. Looking at the issues raised in Watchmen from a leftist perspective could be really interesting, but the pacing, the plot holes, and the moralizing without any nuance drive me nuts. And all of that to apparently come to the same conclusion as Watchmen: We need an Ozymandias.

Comments aren't moderated anymore though, so there's that.
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>>87333166
You are aware of what Kuru is, right?
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>>87336446
you should google a modest proposal, anon
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>>87333166
Had a right giggle at that one mate, good show
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>>87317476
This! So much this! I could see this comic actually being decent, I don't dread updates like I do other, more SJW comics. This one at least TRIES to be balanced, but in the end the author has too much of a boner for his creation, and every time he starts down the right path he managed to bungle the whole thing up.
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>>87336446

Irrelevant to this discussion?
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>>87325277

Consider: Feral is totally okay with being in endless surgery, not mentally ruined after months of it, even eager to get back to it.

She's a masochist. The entire time they're in there carving her up, she keeps screaming "HARDER, DAMMNIT!"
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>>87326828
Who said anything about threatening?
Her parents are Good™ people. Don't you think they would have something to say about everything Alison has been doing?
About the threats, the torture, etc?
They are probably the only people that could shame Alison into going to jail, and they probably would because they aren't calous bastards.
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>>87329384
It should probably either massively stabilize the political landscape of the entire world or cause a global breakdown.

But HURR DURR, strong people punching each other really hard while making jokes is way more interesting to read!
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>>87336390
Was that really the conclusion of Watchmen?

I mean, Manhattan at the end heavily implied sacrificing millions was merely a temporary relief from global annihilation.

I thought that was the whole point of Ozy sacrificing Bubastis to stop Dr.Manhattan, only to have him come back five seconds later, making the sacrifice meaningless.
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>>87311626
>If Feral's capable of regenerating entire organs in minutes, how the fuck is any surgical team going to keep her open long enough to get them out? You want a heart? Good luck, when the breastbone is constantly closing itself up every 15 seconds or so. Hell, good luck getting past the first incision!

The comic specifically said that they had special equipment designed to keep her open. It's probably just a big machine constantly grinding away at her as she tries to close up.

>This power boost shouldn't have helped anybody, hell, it should've screwed Feral's infinite-organ-donor schtick completely over. And yet it has and does, purely for the sake of Allison's character arc.

Personally, I'm glad the power boost didn't instantly backfire or something, like making Feral heal too fast to donate. That would've been too much of a heavy-handed morality play, showing Alison overstepping a moral boundary only to face immediate consequences and no benefit.

The way it panned out, Alison knows what she did was wrong, and that she is filling the "dictator" role the philosophy professor accused her of, but it also worked out really well. She's taken her first step toward Justice Lord.
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