/swco/ - Star Wars Comics & Cartoons

Rogue One previews

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https://youtu.be/HUb_zpdyDpU
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What is she, /swco/?

>>86931683
a Wewuzayy

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>>86931659
BIG GUN
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So what I've never really been able to get is why Han and Leia wound up naming him after a guy whom Leia never met, and Han's entire relationship consisted on mocking his space wizard religion.

>>86931664
So is Donnie Yen a Jedi who escaped the purge or is he just another random asshole with the force.

Because i'm pretty angry about how Disney treats the prequels.

Imagine a world where the prequels were more loved. All these movies would be better.
TFA would have had Coruscant, and Luke training a new order, Leia being a Jedi etc...

If they sucked off the PT as much as the OT the movies would be entirely better films.

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>>86931774
Because REFERENCE.

Jacen>>>>>>>>>"Ben" (the real Ben is Luke's son.)

>>86931774
Maybe they didn't and they just liked the name Ben

>>86931782
No, I know, but it makes sense if was Luke's kid. I just can't see an in universe reason for it is all.

>>86931777
Neither. He's a blind dude who is apparently not force sensitive, but believes in the Force and its philosophy.

But we know that even if a person isn't has typically force sensitive like a Jedi, you can still call upon it unconsciously when you are skilled in what you do. That's probably what Donnie Yen's character is, he'll probably have an awakening moment to explain his magic stick actions. How else could he fire BIG GUN? >>86931760

>>86931777
>So is Donnie Yen a Jedi who escaped the purge or is he just another random asshole with the force.

No. He's just a blind guy who idolizes Jedi Knights. He's not even force sensitive.

He's a Jediboo, more or less.

>>86931777
I honestly hope not, I'm kinda excited at the prospect of a Star Wars movie where the plot isn't entirely advanced by space wizards.

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>>86931816
Ben was Luke's son's name in Legends.

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>>86931832
It still is though.

>It was Shnoke, he sheduced our shon.

>>86931774
They could have given Luke the honour of naming him. It happens that a close relative or friend will sometimes name a child. Could be a Jedi thing too, a kind of blessing.

>>86931683
The world may never know

>>86931774
Han and Leia met each other because of Ben. It's not uncommon for parents to name a kid after the person who introduced them.

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Vader really seemed to be moving with a purpose here. Then we see Krennic disheveled. Think Vaders murdering him?

Also, I hope they kept the bacta scene.

>>86931777
>So is Donnie Yen a Jedi who escaped the purge or is he just another random asshole with the force.
He's neither a Jedi, nor even Force sensitive. He's just deeply religious and believes in the Force. Basically, his character is a space shaolin.

I want some glory for the empire. Vader turning rebel scum to dust and leading loyal bands of stormtroopers.

What are the best runs for that?

>>86931843
We're talking about RO though.

Also you can tell Carrie Fisher is trying to hold back her laughter in that scene.

>>86931865
Technically it was R2 that did, but yeah I know what you are saying.

>>86931777
He's not Force sensative, but he is a member of the Church of the Force, just like Lor San Tekka.

>>86931872
muh empire

>>86931902
>Church of the Force
gay
the new canon is so boring

>>86931777
JJ =/= Disney/Lucasfilm

>>86931915
Non Jedi/Sith Force religions were in the old Canon as well anon.

>>86931902
I don't think he's a member of the Church, just an independent Jediboo.

>>86931872
Lords of the Sith, Tarkin, and Lost Stars for books.

Vader Down, and Star Wars #21 for comics

>>86931937
Yes, but they were not used in leiu of Jedi stuff.

Face it if the prequels were popular Donnie Yen would be a purge survivor.
But Disney has to follow the money.

>>86931973
Gareth Edwards specially stated from the beginning that this movie isn't about space wizards coming to save anyone. This has nothing to to with any Jedi/Sith whatsoever. We'll probably see little of Vader in action too.

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>>86931870
>Think Vaders murdering him?

Yep. I seem to recall reading an interview (probably with Edwards) months ago that part of Krennic's motivation is that he's afraid of Vader showing up. That bit is probably at the end of the movie after everything went down and just before Vader leaves to where the Death Star's plans were transmitted. Krennic gonna get that he's probably been trying to avoid the whole movie.

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>>86931997
>We'll probably see little of Vader in action too.

Nope. Supposedly Vader has no action scenes. He's purely a plot device for the Imperial characters.

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>>86931973
>>86931997
In addition, if you want to watch something with a blind Jedi purge survivor fighting in the rebellion, that's literally Rebels right now.

>>86931915
Church of the Force is a George idea. Was gonna be a part of that live-action show that never got made.

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>>86931973
Disney knows where the money is anon. They're not avoiding anything. If an individual creator wants to avoid the prequels (cough-JJ-cough) then they can, but otherwise, there is no rules banning content from the prequels.

>>86931659
looks boring and there are too many characters with accents. I'm not going to be able to understand what anyone is saying

>>86931997
Just thinking out loud here, but my broader point is that if the PT was as loved as the OT, we'd get spin off movies about the time in between Episode 1 and 2 with Obi and Ani, or the time before Episode 1 with Qui-Gon and Dooku.

the prequels have so many more stories that could be told around them than the OT. The OT was small scale and meh outside of when Luke and Yoda or Luke and Vader or Luke and Ben were in the same room. Everything else is fun, but there's no meat to it. The prequels are 90% meat. Maybe the OT is more technically competent, but the prequels are more interesting.

86932069
(you)

So if we take Galen's comment about whatever he does being for Jyn's safety, I think we can assume he's responsible for the exhaust port's being the deliberate structural failure, in the end leading to the Death Star's destruction.

>>86932052
>all George's ideas are good

>ewoks
>Jar Jar
>approving Ahsoka

>>86932093
All three of those are perfectly fine ideas.

>>86932093
Those are your own personal issues that you need to deal with

>>86932100
I mean, none of them are terrible, but they're a far cry from good.

>>86932069
There is closed captioning for the handicapped like you, anon.

>>86932081
>we'd get spin off movies about the time in between Episode 1 and 2 with Obi and Ani
We did get a comic focusing on that very relationship.

>or the time before Episode 1 with Qui-Gon and Dooku.
We are getting an upcoming comic issue focused on Yoda before Episode 1.

Not saying I wouldn't like a movie, but that content is already in the pipeline.

>>86932113
Ewoks were a good concept, but left a bad taste in peoples mouths because they seemed too cute to be able to defeat the Empire, rendering the Empire a joke.

Jar Jar was just a comic relief character for kids.

Ahsoka is one of the strongest and best developed characters in the franchise.

>>86932113
Two out of three of them ended up being good.

>>86931659
Still airing with Doctor Strange?

>>86932129
>missing the point
My point is Disney keeps making the same movie because they follow the money.

The one better thing about the post ROTJ EU is that when the prequels came out, they embraced it big time.
The post ROTJ world felt imtamitaly connected to the prequels, from worlds to characters.

Disney will just keep making OT nostalgia grabs forever.

>Han Solo spin off

>>86932137
Jar Jar>>>>Ewoks

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>>86931683
Dead.

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>>86932148
No, here is the new trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC9abcLLQpI

>>86932149
*intimately
wow I messed that up

>>86932134
>they seemed too cute to be able to defeat the Empire

They were too cute to beat the Empire. Did no one notice that the Ewoks were loosing in the end? Once the Imperials got over their confusion they were breaking the Ewoks and were chasing them into the woods.

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>>86932157

>>86932134
>Ahsoka is one of the strongest and best developed characters in the franchise.

But she doesn't FIT in the franchise.
TCW as a whole just doesn't fit.

>Grevious announces he was trained in the jedi arts by Dooku to Obi Wan
>Obi Wan acts surprised when Grevious's arms split apart.

>>86932149
>The one better thing about the post ROTJ EU is that when the prequels came out, they embraced it big time.
>The post ROTJ world felt imtamitaly connected to the prequels, from worlds to characters.


Really? I kinda got the opposite impression. The PT kinda contradicted a shit ton of post RoTJ EU.

>>86932173
nice headcanon bruh

>an ENTIRE LEGION of my BEST TROOPS awaits them

>fucked up by teddy bears

I can't believe this is going to be so much better than fucking Kyle Katarn's version of events.

I also like how Jyn has turned from a catty ssstrong rebel girl into a girl trying to save her father. These trailers have been good at developing her character into one that matters both to herself and others

>>86932173
I think it's the initial attack that throws people off. Seeing these trained soldiers overwhelmed by teddy bears made the Empire look like a joke, and that mentality hasn't ever really changed since. The initial idea of Wookiee's would have probably gone over better with people. Ironically when George finally realized that in RotS, the Wookiee's got rekt.

>>86932192
>But she doesn't FIT in the franchise.
How?

>TCW as a whole just doesn't fit.
It fits perfectly fine.

Obi-Was was surprised because Greivous usually waits until he needs the upper hand to use all of his arms. Obi-Wan somehow not knowing about Greivous having 4 arms would make less sense.

>>86932149
I don't disagree with your point but I admit I did miss it for a moment , but unfortunately I guess the best thing we can hope for is the other media works in this unified canon to foster that interconnectivity in place of the films.

>>86932201
>once the prequels came out
read

Del Rey post ROTJ EU is where they embraced the prequels. The contradicted the bantam stuff sometimes, but NJO was originally not going to be in continuity with the bantam stuff at all.

>>86932208
>I can't believe this is going to be so much better than fucking Kyle Katarn's version of events.

nice bait
even if you believe it, you posted it to bait people into getting butthurt

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>>86932192
>But she doesn't FIT in the franchise.

Um.. yes she does. Shit, I remember a time when the OT was all the Star Wars we had (er, I had), and Ahsoka is just as significant a character to me as Luke or Han. She very much fits in the franchise. Especially with the kind of female characters that George likes.

Which is appropriate, since he and Dave created her.

>>86932237
You took the words out of my mouth. Ahsoka is the most fitting female character in Star Wars since Leia.

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>>86932225
"Because she wasn't seen or mentioned in the movies"

>>86932237
>a time when only the OT existed when you liked Ahsoka

what

>>86932226
>best thing we can hope for is the other media works in this unified canon to foster that interconnectivity in place of the films.
Which they have been doing. We've had post RotJ comics take place on Naboo, hell, even Aftermath reference TCW. To say nothing of what gets revealed in Bloodline.

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Was killing Ahsoka Filoni's final test? Did he have to let go of his own waifu in order to take an apprentice (Justin Rídge)

>>86932251
*in episode III

And yes, that's the reason.

>>86932251
In one movie when plenty of other shit was going on to distract the characters. I mean if you want to get real nitpicky you can also point out how Greivous' line about Anakin's age doesn't make any sense when he could've seen a picture or hologram before

>>86932235
Partally, yes. Dark Forces is a boring slog compared to this. The theft of something like the Death Star plans shouldn't be left to literally one person alone. Kyle was better once the Jedi Knight series proper kicked off

>>86932265
>TCW
I want prequel stuff though.
I, personally, hated TCW.

Rebels is much better, imo.

>tfw you finally get to see Vader move a little faster and more fluid thanks to technology

I teared up a bit at the trailer, and not just for that, I won't lie.

Also were the chest panel not even lit up, or was it just the lighting?

>>86932266
Nice rule-of-two and order-66 double dubs.

Also, if it was, did he fail?

>>86932266
He didn't kill Ahsoka though.

>>86932277
You don't get to ask for inter-connectivity, then reject references to some things because they're not the right things. TCW is prequel territory.

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>>86932284
He didn't.
>>86932285
>He's an optimist.
That's nice anon, but she's dead.

>>86932251
>>86932268
>The movies are the only source of the Star Wars story.
130+ episodes of the show changes that.

Out of universe reason is that she was created during the production of ROTS.

In universe, there's no reason to mention her at all. She left the order, and the events of that movie leave the characters with different things to focus on then giving a throwaway line.

>>86932208
>I can't believe this is going to be so much better than fucking Kyle Katarn's version of events.

Isn't Kyle a liar and con-man in-universe though?

>>86932268
If that's legitimately your reason, then you are simply wrong. Contrary to popular belief, it wasn't an afterthought.

Not only did TCW go out of their way to explain why Ahsoka wasn't mentioned in Episode 3, but Lucas even started coming up with the TCW and Ahsoka (Ashla at the time), months before Revenge of the Sith was even finished, so Anakin having an apprentice was always on his mind.

If Lucas didn't think mentioning Anakin's apprentice was necessary for the movie, then that's that. But it doesn't mean he didn't believed Anakin ever had one, because he clearly did.

In an interview, Lucas's original understanding of the situation was that Ahsoka would die before the movie took place, hence it being a touchy subject that wouldn't be brought up in the movie. Filoni convinced him that they could keep her alive and make it work.

>>86932266
Lost, the waifu is. Just as the waifu of Lord vader was lost, so too is Ashoka. Grown in strength, Filoni has, soon he will force Ridge to create his own waifu. Destroyed, in turn, she will be.

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>>86932283
>tfw you finally get to see Vader move a little faster and more fluid thanks to technology

What technology? You say that like Vader was an animatronic puppet and not some guy in a suit.

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>>86932326
Excellent

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Tell me your lewd Star Wars related fantasies anons.

>>86932304
Yes, but TCW keeps being the thing most referenced in that era.

I like the films much more. I could give a shit about some guy from TCW being last minute named as Forest Whittaker's character after he signed on as a character with a different name.

I want to see a movie about Mace Windu before TPM.
I want to see a movie about Obi Wan as a youngling in the temple, being selected by Qui Gon an going on a mission.
I want Hayden back in a Clone War story, without Ahsoka..
I want an Obi Wan on Tatooine small budget movie.

I

>>86932322
If anything mentioning her would have been confusing without the context of TCW

>>86932335
Technology was a bad word huh? I guess advancements is what I was getting at, I can't imagine the suit is as clunky as it once was, and some things can be adjusted with CGI.

>>86932350
If all those stories were in a television show instead, would you say the same thing?

>>86932349
>>>/aco/
there's a star wars thread there

>>86932351
Babbies whined that the movies were confusing anyway.
>wahh these internally consistent politics don't make sense wahh
George would have put something in there if the idea was serious at the time.

>>86932371
Live action show i'd settle for.
No more being relegated to the cartoon ghetto for the prequels.

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>>86932349
If I had made TFA, I would have had the Emperors daughter be the behind the scenes villain instead of Snoke, played by Antje Traue (faora).
And so in the final film of the trilogy its a full power Rey vs her.

>>86932335
If you think about it, Vader simply never has a reason to move exceptionally fast in the OT. Even during the fights, he is always in control (until, you know, Luke's freak out), and he moves slow and imposingly.

The misconception for a long time was that he simply couldn't move fast, but thankfully the newer Canon books and movies are ending that myth.

>>86932371
I don't mean to be snarky, but I doubt that anon would. Anakin Clone War stories? We have a show for that. Smaller Obi-Wan Tatooine stories? We have the new comics telling them. We have those stories being told, but that Anon sounds like the only thing he wants to see are movies.

>>86932335
I think he meant in the sense that Vader in the original trilogy was limited to what David Prowse could pull off in the suit.

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>>86932380
If George put mentions to every idea he in the works in all the movies they'd be full of half cocked ideas just thrown together

>>86931664
>I've been recruiting for the Rebellion for a long time.
Is Cassian Andor a Fulcrum agent? That would be dope.

>>86932389
I consider TCW the best Star Wars content we have. Freddie Prince Jr said in a stream once that Maul/Visla is his favorite lightsaber fight, and that the fact that it is animated shouldn't ever sway your opinion.

I don't see why you think that these stories being non-live action somehow makes them worse, or lesser.

>>86932406
>they'd be full of half cocked ideas just thrown together
That's what everyone acts like they are anyway.
He had nothing to lose by mentioning Ashla.

>>86932389
>/co/ - Comics & Cartoons
>I hate stories told in other mediums
Come now, anon. Just because it's not live action doesn't mean it's bad.

>>86932412
>I consider TCW the best Star Wars content we have.
yikes
>>86932412
>Freddie Prince Jr said in a stream once that Maul/Visla is his favorite lightsaber fight
yikes

I guess I just don't have a lot in common with you guys.
My favorite SW stuff is the PT, force aspects of the OT, and the post 1999 EU.

>>86932402
Yeah that's what I meant, I'm just bad at explaining myself sometimes.

>>86932432
I love comics. Cartoons not so much, but the fact remains that SW started as a film franchise.

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>>86932416
>Your daddy will never carry you to the beach in a slutty slave outfit

>>86932390
>Rey, I am your mother.

Can't we all just like what we like without being autists/shitposters about it?

If someone likes TCW a lot, let them.
If someone hates TCW a lot, let them.
If someone likes the Fetts being Mandos, let them.
If someone likes Sabine being a Mando more, let them.

You get the point, just don't be autists about it like the dude on deviantart over Boba. I mean shit everyone has their opinions and likes/dislikes. Hell I like the prequels, I realize they aren't without their flaws very much like the OT, but I still like them quite a lot. Same goes a lot of stuff, whether it be current canon or Legends.

In the end we all love Star Wars, some more than others, some less than others. Lets just have fun and enjoy the myriad of things we've been given over the decades and just enjoy ourselves.

>>86932442
And the fact remains that SW has expanded into other mediums. The cartoons are the second largest medium of Star Wars content, you may not like them, but you can't dismiss them when they give you the opportunity for the stories you want to see.

>>86932451
Considering I'm a dude and a foot taller than my dad that's fine
It never seemed like an option

>people are literally only liking the trailer for Vader

>people will literally only go to the movie for Vader, forgetting there's a whole nother movie taking place around him and that he's at best a small part of it

>all because muh Vader

I love Vader too guys, but come on. This is exactly why TFA was so uninspiring

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>>86932364
>I can't imagine the suit is as clunky as it once was,

It was never clunky though. The only solid/non flexible parts were the helmet, gorget, cod piece and grieves. The rest was fabric, leather and whatever the fuck the jumpsuit and gloves were made of.

>>86932393
>but thankfully the newer Canon books and movies are ending that myth.

I don't think that's what he was talking about.

But I am glad of that bit thouhg. It's nice that Vader still commands the same kind of agility he had before his prosthesis.

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>>86932466
Are you new here?
That's the life blood of this thread
I bet you actually like Star Wars
You're no real fan

>>86932478
>people are literally only liking the trailer for Vader
I liked all of it. In fact I'll dare say I really liked some of the shots and things they did with Jyn quite a bit.
>people will literally only go to the movie for Vader, forgetting there's a whole nother movie taking place around him and that he's at best a small part of it
Not everybody, sure a lot of people will, but a lot of people are going just because its Star Wars.
>all because muh Vader
See above.

You really overestimate how many people actually think the movie looked good even before Vader.

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>>86932489
Meme time?

>>86932478
I don't know where you're getting your information, but it clearly hasn't been these threads.

>>86932493
>I bet you actually like Star Wars
Y-yes...;_;

But seriously though, its alright to criticize something you don't like, but sometimes people get a bit too much with it like we're on /v/.

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>>86932501
Wanna hear a sick burn? Your face

>>86932157
I meant "so this is airing with Strange, then"

>>86932496
Not from what I'm seeing, dude. Facebook, Twitter, all awash for more Vader as if he's the only thing that matters in all of this.

>>86932511
There's a difference between
>I don't like this thing
and
>This thing cannot and should not be liked
which is what a lot of the "criticism" in these threads consists of.

The one is an opinion, and the other is shitposting.

>>86932496
>>86932506
I'm aware of your reception, no worries. Wasn't really blasting you guys. It's mostly on social media. If I'd mentioned it on those feeds I'd be attacked

>>86932567
Normies are normies, nothing you can do about it.

>>86932544
Which is why I made the point of saying, do it without shitposting and that it was fine to say you didn't like something.

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>>86931843
>It was Shnoke, he sheduced our shon.
This shit still gets me.

>>86932543
>>86932567
When the first trailer dropped I saw tons of people on Facebook/Twitter talking about how good it looks. I mean yeah sure its all about Vader now that they know he's in it, but they were still excited for it before they knew, at least from what I saw.

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I'm not watching this since I didn't like TFA.

I'd make love to Aphra though.

>>86932642
That doesn't make any sense anon. What does this have to do with TFA?

Also we'd all hold Aphra's hand and then give her a big hug afterwards.

>>86932654
They're both new SW movies

>>86932642
>>86932654
>you will never have rough, drunken sex with Aphra then spoon while she tells you how she double crossed Darth Vader and lived to tell the tale
Why even live?

>>86931774

Ben doesn't sound like a Star Wars name to me, but its in the original so I'll shut up

>>86932642
>that shirt

S-she's supposed to be wearing an unbuttoned henley...

>>86932654
>big hug
I'd give her more than that if you know what I mean

I'd give her a sensible dinner as well. She must work up an appetite adventuring

>>86932042

I demand a source

So out of all the canon novels, which ones have good endings? I need something happy to pick me up after Lords of the Sith.

>>86932730
A New Dawn

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>>86932501

>>86932679
>Luke
>Cody
>Rex
>Finn
>Fox
>Owen
>Rey
>Quinlan
All of those are regular names, more or less. You're going to have to expand your list.

>>86932672
Yeah but it doesn't mean that if you disliked one you'll dislike the other.
>>86932676
>you will never come home one day to a greasy half naked Aphra wet over her newest creation
There is no point in living anon, not until proper VR happens.
>>86932694
I hope its a nutritional dinner for her pregnant body that you can nurture and raised a beautiful family together eventually on Dantooine with a white hologram fenced house.
>>86932730
Kanan's probably has the happiest ending.

>>86932696

Test screening rumors. According to them, Vader shows up at the end of the film and has only dialogue scenes.

>>86932642
Honestly, I hope they show up in later seasons of Rebels. Krrsantan especially.

>>86932730
You feel good when you finish Aftermath. :^))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

>>86932795
Well we see him twice in the trailer, doesn't seem to be the same scene as Grand Admiral Fuckface isn't wet in one of them and talking about the power of the death star.

>mfw I realize Jyn's flashback takes place not long after RotS

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>>86932093
>>ewoks

I know there's the bit where an ewok in a hang glider drops some rocks on imperial people and it's cartoonish, but the rest of the film treats the ewoks as a proper culture with elders, babies, young and old, even superstition.

They were gonna eat Han Solo!

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>>86932851

Scenes, anon. Plural. Not one scene. The one where Krennic is talking about power and shit is probably a scene where Vader's just arrived and Krennic is trying to save face. The next one is probably where Vader had enough of his shit.

>>86932730
Fuck, I think A New Dawn is the only one.

>>86932893
The culture is fine. Comfy, even. Where it breaks down is that sheev sent "an entire legion of his best troops".

I don't buy that teddy bears beat that much force.

>>86932883
Well it could be taking place during the Clone Wars. The only thing we know for sure is that Jyn was born before the Clone Wars. How long before who knows.

>>86932883
We're getting early Empire in screen, boiyos.

>>86932956
It's like you don't realize that by the time those movies were made, that the US military had been beaten by rice farmers. The Empire at that time was modeled off the Imperial Nixon Presidency.

>>86932956
They didn't, if you pay attention you realize that it is only by the good fortune of Chewbacca capturing an AT-ST that the rebels were able to win. An enraged wookiee in a chicken walker beat the imperials, the ewoks and rebels only distracted them.

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>>86932956

Yeah, RotJ is one of the more strange star wars films.

It's got the most fairy tale elements. The message of the film is basically about taking risks involving getting captured and then hoping things turn out okay.

Jabba's palace is like a double-blind rescue of Han, and then Luke tries the same thing with Vader and the Emperor. And it works!

Leia, Han, and Lando remain static characters for most of the film, though Leia gets a spiritual freedom with the war "over" and her love for Han. Lucas was definitely exhausted with the franchise at this point.

But there's also my favorite scene of all time in star wars: Luke confronting Vader on the balcony. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en8bh60K7m8

>>86932157
no one else sees the Jedi statue with the broken saber?

>>86933072
No not at all
What are you talking about?

>>86933062
What is going on in that picture? Did she just go off on Han for being fresh with her or something?

>>86933072
People should focus more on why one of the hands on the hilt is upside down.

>>86933062
>"It is, too late, for me... Son..."
Most underrated moment of the entire franchise?

>>86933093

She's saying "keep your heads turned away as I change my clothes"

and Chewie is like "yeah ya pervs. be ashamed"

>>86933105
>Chewie can get away with watching Leia undress because he's a different species
Being non-humanoid has its advantages

>>86933099

It's such an amazing scene because there's so much going on.

It's a duel of words. Luke tends to be a bit spacey or blank as a character, and for him to become like a priest arguing for the spiritual salvation of his father is fairly profound character growth.

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>>86933119
It's nothing more than a filthy alien.

>>86933163
Shut up, Threepio. You're just mad no one likes a buzzkill

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The only thing immeasurable is the Force.

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>>86932746

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>>86933151
As terrible as Mark's accident was, I feel its results did well to sell the idea of an a mature and wisened Luke. There's no way he could have sold this scene with the prettyboy babyface he had in ANH. It also shows in TESB, where he looks and feels more alert and wary of things around him.

And then in Shattered Empire he finally makes the transition to the humble, kindly cryptic

>>86932192
Grievous's line is weird, but you could just say that he was preparing for this battle. Also, Obi-wan did not look surprised. He had a look of amusement on him.

>>86933212
>Tfw for the longest time thought the scars on Luke's face in ESB and ROTJ were just really good makeup
I used to think he just got them from the Wampa attack on Hoth. I never knew about Mark's accident until years later

>>86933212
I fucking loved him in Shattered Empire

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Kel Dor?

>>86933256

That's Edrio Two Tubes, they call him that on account of him having two tubes.

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>>86931659

>Darth actually get's dialogue
Well I wasn't expecting that

Very, very nice

>>86931664
>Save the Rebellion
>Save the Dream
Sal is going to die and it's going to hurt.

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>>86933247
We're done here

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Thoughts?

>>86931870
I hope Krennic's chat in the trailer is him mocking Vader and this is the end result.

>>86932482
>The rest was fabric, leather and whatever the fuck the jumpsuit and gloves were made of.

The arms and legs were made out of some kind of costuming material that had a limited amount of stretch, which is why you get Vader's T-Rex arms fighting style.

>>86933322
#SavetheDream

>Revan vs EU Luke (NJO/FotJ/LotF)
Who wins?

>>86933339
LUKE OF MURDER

>>86933362
EU Luke.
EU Luke was a great character, man.

>>86932060
JJ included flags from the Podrace at Maz's. Kylo mentioned a "clone army". It's not like the film went out of its way to purge that memory.

>>86933362
EU Luke. Dude was able to force crush black holes and all sorts of ridiculous nonsense.

>>86933379
>JJ included flags from the Podrace at Maz's

>he doesn't know

>>86933362
Don't you know EU Luke could do anything with force just about?

>>86933379
>JJ included flags from the Podrace at Maz's.

He had them removed when he realized what they were.

>>86933379
>He doesn't know about the flags

>>86933378
>>86933381
>>86933407
but muh Revan

>>86933412
He also removed Sabine's flag as well.

>>86933379
>JJ included flags from the Podrace at Maz's
Oh, boy.

>>86933346
He looks better with the hair and beard

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>>86933379
Reminder

>>86933379
The animators added the flags. As soon as JJ found out, he had them digitally removed.

Not even fucking joking m8.

>>86933422
it was Muh Luke before that
Revan is fairly new
Luke's been here since the beginning

>>86933362
EU Luke could fly the Falcon while firing its guns better than Han, deflect AT-AT laser blasts, and fight with several lightsabers at once.

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>>86933441

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>>86933441
>it was shit on purpose
bravo JJ

1/2

>>86932207
They were ferocious teddy bears. People can't handle that, but can handle a green elf-frog being a leet Jedi in the same series.

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>>86933482
2/2

>>86932255
Is English your third language or something?

>Shit, I remember a time when the OT was all the Star Wars we had (er, I had), and Ahsoka is just as significant a character to me as Luke or Han.

I feel the only way to make Chirrutt's death worth BIG GUN'S accidental spoiler is to have him die in a futile duel holding off Vader. Anything else would be a great disservice to Donnie Yen

>>86933441
I liked TFA, I did. But JJ Abrams is like the definition of an OT Purist. Really, it would breath more life in the franchise and universe, by removing the very things that add to it?

You've made some great movies JJ, but jesus fucking christ.

I feel like people that still cling to the OT Purist mindset that hard are the ones that have actually lost what makes Star Wars, Star Wars.

>>86933503
Oh I get it.

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>>86933487

The script mostly required Yoda to sit and talk. And his way of speaking combined with his wisdom added layers to his character.

The Ewoks by comparison are obviously more clumsy. Throwing rocks in slings and hang-gliding to victory come off as a little preposterous.

>>86933353

I don't think what it's made of would be the problem. Ill fitting measurements would be to blame if the suit's sleevs are restricting that much.

>>86933529
When Luke left to go to Cloud City, do you reckon Yoda thought, "Left that X-wing at the bottom of the swam, I should have."

>>86933450
But in my defence, FotJ and LotF are post KoTOR

>>86933462
>fly the Falcon while firing guns
Not that I'm going to particularly this argument, but Rey was able to fly it without a copilot.

>deflect AT-AT laser blasts
Kanan and Ezra could deflect TIE Fighter blasts, though.

>several lightsabers at once
Source? h-how many?

>>86933538
The suit has been notorious for how hard it was to move in. I think the only one that had actual problems with it not fitting was Hayden, which they played off that he was still getting used to the suit and it was clunky.

The original suit though that was a notoriously clunky and hard to move mess. Where they had to actually bring in some other people so they could do the fight scenes just because it was so clunky.

>>86931777
Not everyone has to be a Jedi or a Sith, you know. There should be lots of people who believe in the force even though they never learned how to use it.

>>86933556
Probably something like "Reckless, like Anakin he is. Love he has, not misplaced. Failed we did in the Clone Wars. Understood Anakin we should have."

Wait, was Hayden in the Vader suit in RotS? Why?

>>86933611
Well they had him in the suit when they raised the him off the table after the helmet got put on.

>>86933611
Because he fought for it. It was originally going to be some stunt guy or something, but Hayden pressed until George let him do it.

>>86933611
Hayden wanted to wear it. I mean would any of us pass up the opportunity to be in the suit in a movie?

>>86933577
>Where they had to actually bring in some other people so they could do the fight scenes just because it was so clunky.

They got someone else (Bob Anderson) for fight scenes because Prowse had no sword training and was just a big guy.

The Vader suit was not clunky. Storm trooper suits were clunky. Dengar was clunky, 3PO was clunky. Vader was not clunky. Restrictive for it's own reasons, maybe. But not clunky.

>>86931774
>Leia wants to name the baby Bail Solo
>Han wants to name the baby Kessel Run Solo
>Luke bursts into the room
>N-NO YOU HAVE TO NAME HIM BEN

>>86933611
Because he was Anakin

>>86931870
>>86932003
Please no. Vader killing Krennic would be the most obvious thing to ever happen in a Star Wars movie. Literally everyone expects it so his death would just be meaningless.

It would be much more interesting if Krennic were to commit suicide or something. He's the main villain so he shouldn't die like some incompetent officer.

>>86933611
He practically begged for it. Wouldn't you?

>>86933611
meta-poetry

>>86933670
Baby dictators are terrible people.

Almost as bad as people who want salads for dinner

>>86933713
>He doesn't want to pretend to be healthy

>>86933747
Why pretend when you could be?

>>86933685
Reminds me of that one Star Wars comic where the Imperial officer hears Vader is hailing his Star Destroyer after he just failed his mission.

He asks his second in command for a gun and shoots himself to avoid facing Vader.

>>86933795
I will never really understand the execution trope.

It just gets silly after a while.

>>86931760
And then he dies when he points the wrong end at himself.

>>86933571
When Luke became one with the force it was said by the people he was fighting it seemed as if he was wield 30 sabers at once.

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For a moment I thought this might be Stygeon Prime, but there's no snow. Would've been a neat reference, though.

>>86933957
Yeah, it's probably Jedha or something, but I could see the Empire using Stygeon as a template for other maximum security prisons.

>>86933957
How snowy was it in Rebels? I remember there was a blizzard in the Maul comic, but not in Rebels. Maybe it was just "winter" in the Maul comic.

I don't really see a reason why that couldn't be Stygeon, aside from it being unlikely for there to be ANOTHER planet on top of all the ones we see in the trailers so far. But you never know.

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>we're getting this instead of Kyle Katarn and Jan Ors
dropped
reported to FBI
closed browser
shut off computer
throw computer out window
throwing self out window

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What is the most misunderstood and underrated Star Wars film and why is it AOTC?

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What kind of Space station are they fighting at? It looks pretty futuristic.

>>86933994
It wasn't actively snowing, but you could still see snow on the mountains and the cliffsides.

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>>86934001
>throwing self out window
by all means, go right ahead

>>86934028
Is that the rebel fleet in the background?

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>>86934028
Jedha is looking more and more interesting
Upcoming webm raises even more questions

>Dodonna cameo
Neat

>>86934039
Yes, see: >>86932177

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>>86934043
Webm related, is Jedha like the reverse of Korriban/Moraband, this location looks a lot like the Valley of the Sith lords.

Inb4 Jedha is Korriban

>>86934084
>The Valley of the Jedi Knights
Rock hard.

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>>86934084
Last but not least

>>86934001
Good, this is much more momentous and indicative of the Rebels first victory over the Empire

>>86934084
>is Jedha like the reverse of Korriban/Moraband
Sort of. It's like a Jedi Mecca/Jerusalem.

>>86934028
These 2 seconds have convinced me that this is going to blow that piece of shit excuse for a space battle in TFA out of the water.

>The Rebel Fleet in the background
>The Hammerhead from Rebels

DIAMONDS

>>86931760
>this is a shot of him accidentally killing Chirrut WITH the big gun

>>86934107
>Good
stopped reading there

>>86934132
Er, killing Baze

>>86934098
Pacha edit, when?

>>86934046
I noticed that, too
You can see some Alderaan dudes dressed sort of like Bail did in the prequels, but I didn't spot Bail

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>>86933713
>Almost as bad as people who want salads for dinner
Delete

>>86934084
This shot is becoming one of my favorites in all of Star Wars.

The explosion and colors seem somehow incredibly other-worldly, and yet still grounded and fitting for this story. Gorgeous.

And some (probably) unintentional poetry, but this is very reminiscent of the Second Battle of Geonosis in TCW, where they blow up the droid factory.

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>>86934140
, this is much more momentous and indicative of the Rebels first victory over the Empire

>>86933379
>Kylo mentioned a "clone army".
And that was it, just one line. They literally never brought it up again or elaborated on it. It felt forced.
You know it's wasn't added in right when the majority of TFA fans actually believe that the stormtroopers including Finn are actually clones.
I'm not even kidding.
Since Kylo Ren used that line as an insult, I'm starting to think JJ added that line in just to take the piss out of the clones being CGI since he bragged about using real stormtroopers before the film's release.

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>>86931870
>we see Krennic disheveled
Do you have any screencaps of that?

Damn it /swg/, I don't want to Husbando Krennic, but it's happening.

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Remember, one more waifu for the chopping block, piece by piece.

>>86934233
Looked more like Galen Erso. It was Mikkelsen's face

>>86934181
It's fine to have a salad WITH dinner. But if you want one FOR dinner, he's right, you're just terrible.

>>86934230
>I'm starting to think JJ added that line in just to take the piss out of the clones being CGI
You know what, I suspected as much too. He was constantly declaring how the Stormtroopers were real actors and shit in BTS stuff.

Didn't change anything though, as far as I can tell, the kids still don't give a shit about Stormtroopers.

TCW has permanently solidified Clone Troopers as the cool ones.

>>86934230
It was definitely a jab at the PT by JJ. It was basically like "Well if you don't like it, why don't we go back to Clones, bet you won't like it even more then, butthurt faggot."

That was basically what it boiled down. Which is funny because The Clone Wars were mentioned in RotJ.

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>>86934046
Yep, there he is. That might be Bail to his left, it matches the brief shot we saw of him in the sizzle reel.

>>86934260
>TCW has permanently solidified Clone Troopers as the cool ones.

As a kid, I always thought clones were better.
AOTC wowed me. Especially Kamino.
TCW gets more credit than it deserves.

>>86934230
I don't think so.
The Empire and its citizens have been pretty clear about no-one liking clones, particularly not ones from the GAR. Clones were effectively disowned and sent into mining camps to die after the War.
It seems perfectly in line with the New Order being an Imperial offshoot.

>>86934276
>That might be Bail to his left
HOLY SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTTT
I didn't realize that Jimmy Smits was in the cast.
Hype mounting.

>>86934260
Clones have honestly always been cooler. Stormtroopers are cool, but Clone Troopers had a more rounded design, felt, and looked like they were actual soldiers more.

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>Tfw I was just about to sit down and watch the trailer but then realized I left my earbuds at home
Fucc Bois, what do?

>>86934260
It's kind of funny that FO stormtroopers are meant to be superior to the recruited stormtroopers from the OT era, and meant to be on par with the clontroopers according to Daddy Hux because they were raised to be soldiers from birth.

And yet they're the most incompetent ones yet.

>>86934260
Well Clones do have a better record of actually hitting what they aim at.

>Galen Erso
>Galen Marek

Hmmm, HMMMM

>>86934281
Oh yeah, sure, me too. Loved playing as them in Battlefront, before Episode 3 even came out. But TCW really defined the Clones and what they can do, and gave them personality that will likely never be matched. Not even Rebels is developing Rebel soldiers in the same way as the Clones. And yes I understand why. I just think the Clones in TCW are above and beyond what we're ever really going to get again. While the Clones were cool pre-TCW, the show really made them beloved to children and adult viewers alike. No other faction in Star Wars has had that.

>>86934318
Use the speakers?

>>86934334
>Ben Solo
>Ben Skywalker
>stole plot off Jacen Solo

hmmmm, HMMMMMM

>>86934260
>Clone troopers are the only troopers that can run

>>86934318
>Fucc Bois, what do?
What do? Fucc Bois.

>>86934327
TRAITOR!

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>>86934240

>>86934327
>And yet they're the most incompetent ones yet.

They didn't seem to be much more incompetent than the original Stormtroopers.

>>86934356
homosexuality is a sin

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>>86934251
>He doesn't want to eat salat once in a while

>>86934356
I'm gonna fucc you if you keep talking gay shit like that

>>86934373
They had about the same success rate as they did in ANH- they're clearly the superior fighting force at the beginning (Tantive IV/Jakku village) but stop being effective later on.

The one thing the ANH troopers have over the TFA troopers is that the heroes escape from the Death Star because they were allowed- in TFA, they don't have that excuse.

>>86934331
I think having access to the source material helps rather than conscripting from the masses.

>>86934334
>>86934353
>Darth Vader
>Darth Sidious
>Darth Maul
>Darth Tyrannus
>All are evil

Hmmmmmm, HMMMMMMMM

>>86931870
Isn't the chest panel supposed to have green/red lights too?

>>86934411
N-no anything but that! Please don't pin me down as you force your throbbing hot pipe into my tiny little anal cavity! I'd hate to feel your hot body pounding me as we get sweaty and climax together!

>>86934416
They're also kind of goofy at Takodana. Han kills one of them without even looking.

>>86934473
Oh that's it

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>Saw's lair is collapsing in the background as he screams "Save the Rebellion! Save the dream!"
Why the fuck would they show a major character who has had around 4 hours of screentime's death in the trailer? This is seriously pissing me off.

>>86934578
They are all going to die anon.

No one in Rogue One will survive the extraction.

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>tfw the hope hits hard

>>86932795
There have not been any fucking test screenings. Disney go hard on shutting down spoilers and leaks for Star Wars. I have no idea why people believe this shit

>>86934578
>being surprised that any character can die
Did you really expect them all to live?

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>>86934611
>tfw the feels hit hard

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>>86934634

>>86934643
>REN
>DIS GUY
>[Motions to Donnie]
>DEAD

That was some hardcore cringe man, it ruined my entire weekend.

>>86934625
Well we know Saw doesn't actually take part in the theft of the plans which means that it would be very likely that he survived. Saw is a really huge character who has already had around 5 episodes of a tv show made about him and now we know that he'll die in an upcoming movie because they showed his death in a trailer. This is like if the trailer for Episode 8 showed Finn getting slashed in 2 by Kylo and they excused it with "Well did you expect everyone to survive the second movie in a trilogy? This stuff happens all the time!"

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>>86934671

>>86934671
Literally the only "new content" in the entire comic.

What a disaster.

I wonder if Phasma survived somehow, or if she (like Han) will only be in VIII via flashbacks.

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>>86934687

>>86934650
>Han makes a pretend gun with his fingers
BANG
>>86934687
>Kylo plays like he got shot

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>>86934578
>death in the trailer?

In this moment, Bodhi resolves to break cover and fire into the stormtroopers so that the others can escape. He gets cut down by blaster fire.

>>86934668
>Saw is a really huge character
no

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>>86934711

>>86934693
She's probably alive

>>86934715
This is how it should have gone down

>>86934693

Gwendoline Christie has been confirmed as returning in Episode VIII for almost a year now.

>>86934719
>Had around 4 hours of screentime
>Was trained by Anakin Skywalker
>Was likely the very first Rebel cell to ever exist
>Now may take part in the theft of the Death Star plans in some form
>Not important

>>86934667
it was awful

>>86934719
>part of the main cast, front and center on the poster, played by the biggest actor in the entire movie, and is the only character (in the main cast) recurring from something else in the franchise
He is a big character anon

>>86934743
He'll get the same treatment as Vader. Shown to be very important and crucial, but won't get much screen time at all.

>>86934671
>Harrison Ford looks into the camera right at the audience
"Does this planet happen to have a trash compactor by any chance? Similar I fall into during the original film 'Star Wars™'?"
>He smirks because he knows the audience has seen the original Star Wars™, and he is now referencing it
>John Boyega responds
"Yeah it do"
>He too smirks, because he too has seen the original Star Wars™, and understands the reference Harrison Ford is making

>>86934741
They also confirmed Harrison is returning, and that there would be flashbacks. Hence why I speculated she could just be returning in flashbacks.

But she'll probably escape the trash compactor though.

>>86934719
The union of Dodanna's group and Saw's group is a major part of what makes the rebellion a Rebel Alliance. He is one of the Founding Fathers, if you will.

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>>86934719

>>86934755
for you

>>86934764
I meant in The Clone Wars.

>>86934772
One of the big reasons to why I hate TFA. It's too meta.

What was going on with that line in the trailer about Jyn's father being the one to develop the Death Star or something?

>>86934826
He's a scientist. Apparently he did some of the crucial work on the super-laser.

>>86934847
Ah, okay, so he just worked on certain parts, then?

>>86934826

Presume ably he was kidnapped by Krennic to help build the Death Star laser.

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>>86934671
>was in one of the first set photos released
>spent so much time advertising her
>have cool armour that's apparently made of metal from sheev's ship
>have her do pretty much nothing in the film with less than a few minutes of screen-time, only to have her say a few lines and not even an attempt to escape from being held hostage by an old man, a wookie and a janitor
What a lame character.
When they bring her back I hope she had a GOOD reason for letting herself get thrown into a trash compactor.

>>86934743
>Had around 4 hours of screentime
He was in four episodes, even if he was onscreen for every minute that would give him like two hours at most

>>86934826
This. >>86934847
He invented some way of (probably) harnessing the power from Kyber Crystals.
>Galen's energy-focused research has captured the attention of both Krennic and his foes, making the scientist a crucial pawn in the galactic conflict.

>>86934864
Yeah. The overall design is still the Geonosian plan.

>>86934878
That's what the Empire wants the rebels to think, Galen Erso was really captured because he's great at sucking dick