For those who missed it yesterday, the new Nova book is offi

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>>86847069
>[Laughs] What’s it like bouncing Sam Alexander off of Richard Rider? How would you describe their initial dynamic? And how do you think Sam views Rich?

>Loveness: So far in the writing and the co-writing that’s been some of the most fun stuff to play with. They’re huge opposites and they play off of each other really well. It’s fun writing this almost buddy cop dynamic in space. [Laughs] That’s what it’s been so far.

>To Sam, Rich is like the superhero. You can’t think of a bigger Nova in the universe. It’s almost unfair to Sam how successful Rich Rider was. He was Nova Prime. He had the entire Nova Force. He stopped the Annihilation Wave, and then he gave his life saving the universe from Thanos and the Cancerverse. So it’s almost unfair that Sam had to fill those shoes.

>I kind of like playing with the fact that Rich is almost this untouchable hero who does everything perfectly while Sam can’t really catch a break. We also have the inverse of that though in that I feel like we’re setting Rich up to be in a very interesting place. He was this huge superhero. He literally saved the universe, but now he’s back and it’s almost like the universe has moved on without him. Think of how many huge Marvel events have happened since “The Thanos Imperative.”

>So Rich Rider has been gone a while. Thor and Captain America are not people that he’s very familiar with at the moment, and the Guardians of the Galaxy have gone through so many changes. He’s really stepping into a world that maybe he doesn’t recognize anymore. So it’s fun to give him more uncertainty than he used to have.

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>>86847100
>Ramon, as an artist what’s your sense of your title characters? Which of Rich and Sam’s qualities do you really want to make sure you capture in your depictions of them?

>Perez: Riffing off of what Jeff said, you have young Sam who is almost like the Spider-Man of yesteryear. He’s like a young Peter Parker. He’s an awkward school kid that has this set of powers he chose to take on in the search for his father. He’s also inexperienced in life, not just with being a superhero. He has bad luck with girls. He’s got kind of a broken family dynamic. Then you have Rich Rider who is this great hero who saved the universe coming back, but like Jeff said, the world has changed.

>So how do you display that through body language and expressions? That’s the backdrop on how I’m playing with those characters. So things like how Sam interacts with his school friends or how he visually wears the mantle of Nova will play a big part in the presentation as well as how Rich is brought into the panels and his heroism. When Rich dons the helmet again how does it feel?

>I’m going to try and play off those things in so many ways, but another thing I’m trying to do is bring a kinetic energy to the book that seems to have been missing for a while. “John Carter of Mars” early on at Marvel had these flowing, beautiful cosmic landscapes and these grandiose, operatic battles. We’ve got some fun, big ones too.

>What can you tell us about Sam and Rich’s respective status quos when you pick up with them in “Nova” #1? Does Sam know Rich returned to Earth at the end of the most recent volume of “Nova”?

>Perez: We can’t say much there without spoiling things. Jeff, what do you think?

>Loveness: Yeah, all we can say is that Sam Alexander and Rich Rider will cross paths over the course of the “Nova” comic book.

>Perez: [Laughs] It’s inevitable. Otherwise it would be a flip book with two separate stories going on.

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>>86847134
>Loveness: [Laughs] A “Choose Your Own Adventure.” Oh, that would be fun. Let’s put that in our back pocket for like issue #44. [Laughs]

>One of the appeals of Nova is he’s a character with one foot in the superheroics of Earth and one foot in the cosmic sci-fi of the Marvel Universe’s interstellar empires. How much balance between those two areas will be in your “Nova” series?

>Loveness: That’s definitely one of my favorite things about the Nova world. I love how you can have the relatability of like a street-level Marvel hero like Spider-Man, Ms. Marvel or Daredevil, but then you can go have these wild, intergalactic adventures. I really love the balance between the two, and we’re only a couple issues in, but it seems like we’ve got a great balance. I just finished writing a page about a telepathic space dog giving Sam Alexander advice on how to deal with high school girls. So hopefully there’s some nice compare and contrast between the two worlds.

>Perez: Yeah, I think we want to keep a balance because a book that’s out there too much in the galaxy might lose the touchstone of being on Earth in the Marvel Universe. So going back and forth and keeping it balanced is what we’re trying to strive for.

>Mentioning Cosmo, the telepathic space dog, is a nice segue way into my next question. What can you tell us about the supporting characters and antagonists your Novas will encounter in the series’ initial issues?

>Perez: We’re diving through the back catalog of villains and Nova’s rogues’ gallery. I’m a big fan of bringing back a lot of classic villains that we haven’t seen in a while. We’ve got some fun ones in our first few issues. I don’t want to mention any of them by name though because it would kill the surprise. We’re going deep into the Marvel Cosmic universe though, for sure.

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>>86847159
>Did you get a chance to do any design work on the villains you’re bringing back?

>Perez: Definitely. That’s one of my favorite things; to be able to draw some of these designs from the ’70s and the Marvel aliens. There’s such a rich and somewhat tacky [Laughs] history of characters from the ’60s and ’70s that you can bring back, update, and have fun with. We’ll be touching on some contemporary characters too that were in the last couple of series as well. It’s all about combining the tapestry of our Novas’ histories.

>So that includes Sam’s family and friends then? They’ll be regular supporting players in this book?

>Perez: Definitely. Like Jeff said, we’re touching both on the personal level in Arizona and the grand, galactic cosmos. So we’re definitely going out of our way to make sure that his family and friends are much a bigger part of the supporting cast then they were previously.

>You already teased a little bit about the look of the book. One of the things I enjoy about your work is your chameleon-like style that changes to suit the book you’re working on. So how does “Nova” compare to some of your most recent work on, say, books like “All-New Hawkeye”?

>Perez: “Hawkeye” was very much a personal, street-level story. “Nova,” like I said, is bigger and grander because we have the entire cosmos to play with. Then you also have the local stuff in areas like Arizona, New York, and L.A. where we touch base with different characters.

>>86847187
>So I’m still playing around with it, but a lot of big influences on my decision making have been series like “Akira” and the great series that Stuart Immonen did years ago, “Nextwave.” That book had this kind of nice, fun flavor to it. I’m really trying to go out of my way to separate it from the last two “Nova” series, which had very classic looks to them. They were traditional Marvel super hero books, and though I’m grateful for what they were, but, especially with the return of Rich and how these characters will interrelate, I want to make sure that our series stands out a lot in the visual sense from the other two.

>Whenever you launch a new series featuring prominent and fan-favorite characters, readers are always interested in seeing them interact with some of the other familiar Marvel U heroes. What kind of role will the larger Marvel Universe play in “Nova”? Are you interested in having Sam interact with his teammates on the Champions? Or having Rich meet up with his associates in the Guardians of the Galaxy?

>Loveness: We want to keep the story pretty tight on Rich and Sam as they both acclimate to this new world they’re in, but we’re both such die hard Marvel fans. So there’s a fair amount of guest appearances so far. As far as the Champions go, I’m a die hard Cyclops fan. [Laughs] So I will find a way for him to show up somewhere.

>Perez: I think it’s inevitable, too, with Rich who was such a grand part of the Marvel U. If he’s coming back from the dead you have to bring in people from his past because they’re going to want to see him and know what happened. He’s going to have to deal with that too. So it’s going to be inevitable that we’ll see a lot of his friends from the past and different series. When and where they’ll appear? I can’t say, but they definitely will make an appearance.

>>86847200
>Loveness: Plus old enemies will return as well! Saving the universe earns you some enemies. So I’m excited to play with the fact that when you come back you also bring with you all your old dirt and baggage.

>It’s also going to be fun to broaden out the “Nova” world as well as explore the past. I’m excited to build up Sam Alexander’s rogues gallery. Every great Marvel hero needs like six great villains to go along with them. So I’m excited to kind of broaden out the bullpen a bit for Nova.

>Perez: I totally agree. He’s definitely lacking in the regular villains department. So we’re going to bring our A-game in trying to give him some good ones.

>Finally, it sounds like with “Nova” you guys are building a book that’s one part buddy space opera and one part superhero duo book where your characters will navigate both the turbulent Marvel cosmos and complicated post-“Civil War II” landscape of the Marvel Universe’s hero and villain communities. Is that a fair summation?

>Perez: Yeah, I think that’s a good summation. There are some dark elements, but we’re trying to keep the book fun as well. We want a little bit of everything to create a nice diverse flavor for the series.

>>86847069
>Yeah, the “Annihilation” event is where my — and I think a lot of other fans’ — feelings about Rich changed
What? He was a little bitch for like 85% of Annihilation. Why would People like him for that? Rekking Annihilus at the end doesn't make up for all the time spent on MUH WORLDMIND M-MUH DEAD NOVA CORPS.

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>>86847134
>Sam Alexander Loeb fought cancer in the real world
>Sam Alexander fights the cancerverse in comics
Pottery gotta rhyme

I can't get excited for this. Not with Marvel in the state it's in nowadays and Loeb and Brevoort's open, very vocal hatred of Rich.

So, when it's revealed this is a bait and switch, what should we call the fake Rich?
I think Ghost Rider works

>>86847417
Wait, since when did Loeb hate Rich? I thought he liked him, he just liked his dead son more.

>>86847514
I don't think Loeb had any opinion on him. He just saw a vacancy

Is any of Sam's shit even worth reading? I remember his original run had a promising start, but kept getting stonewalled by events and I haven't even bothered with the current run.

>>86847439
What do they even expect from a bait and switch other than a mass drop in sales?

>>86847563
Sam's first run was fun and comfy and had one of the best AXIS tie ins. Read it.
Current run shits all over continuity and is only good for issue #9, with the Captain.

I'm actually way more into this than I thought I'd be, between the creative team and the interview.

>>86847159
>Cosmo giving Sam girl advice
Jesus fuck this interview makes it sound like the book's going to be everything I want in a Sam!Nova title, so I just know it's going to suck and dash all my hopes.

>>86847417
I kinda feel you in that I don't want to get invested in a new Marvel book at this point without knowing what kinda direction it takes, but so far things look hopeful at least. If it starts strong I'll definitely pick it up.

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>Rich is Sam's big brother and it's a semi-comedic trip through cosmic and Nova history
Why did you make me wait so long for this Marvel?

>>86847563
No. I read it because I wanted to stay positive about Nova's situation, but it was waste of time.
Everything about Sam is a mess.

>>86847200
>Namedropping Nextwave
Stop it stop it I don't think I can handle anymore Sam disappointment after Champions

>>86847563

No. He's utter shit in team books too. You can tell no one actually likes him, even at Marvel. He's just around because he's Loeb's dead son.

>>86847731
Bendis says he likes him, but I think that's just because he hates Richard

Are the Sam's solo stories any good? I never read when he was introduced because I was butthurt about them killing off Rich but bringing Starlord and Thanos back.
But some of the screencaps of him interacting with other heroes are pretty funny so now I kind of want to read him.

>>86847563
Sam's first run is fantastic. Disregard shitposters like >>86847699

The most recent one was okay but the author clearly hadn't read all of the prior volume. Highlights were the CW2 tie-ins which had suffering porn and the Captain teaching Sam that no good deed goes unpunished.

>>86847790
It's pretty bad.
Vol 5 was boring for the most part, and vol 6 is fucking atrocious

>>86847249
Wtf are you talking about, Rich literally had no time to mourne anyone, the worldmind itself was the one that demanded a vessel to protect it's knowledge, until Rich convince it to help him fight. Rich was only in aftershock after A WHOLE WORLD FULL OF COMRADES DIED AROUND HIM yet hi still was willing to man up to the situation even if it was with pressure from Draxx. Also did you forgot that every nova centurion who tried to carry the entire nova force before Rich went fucking insane.

>>86847790
His introduction during AvX was pure shit. His solo was decent even when Loeb was on it. And it got better when Loeb left the title. Not sure about the latest volume though.

>>86847699
>>86847731
Why you lying though?

>>86847790
The run that just concluded by Sean Ryan is skippable, but the one before that which is mostly by Duggan you should definitely check out.

What about Rich? Is any of his stuff pre-Annihilation worth taking a look at? I don't remember him being all that popular or prolific until the big string of DnA Cosmic events.

>>86847850
Why you shilling, though?
Sam is a disaster that causes every book he's on to have laughably low sales.

They forced Sam too hard, just like they're forcing Kamala and Miles too hard. Marvel desperately wants their own trilogy, but they have no idea how to do it.

>>86847069
Wait, what? When has Rich ever been a Han Solo type? He wasn't even really Cosmic until Annihilation.

This guy sounds like he has no idea what he's talking.

>>86847907
The thing about Miles and Kamala is they have the numbers to back up their push. I don't care for them, but they've been received a lot better than Sam.

>>86847850
>The run that just concluded by Sean Ryan is skippable
Aside from the Captain and Rich issue

>>86847920
Nice catch, I didn't see that before. I have no clue what that dude is saying. Of anything, Rich was closer to Luke.

How mad is Tom Brevoort right now?

>>86847867
His first run is very standard superhero type stuff and only lasted for 25 issues but it's definitely worth checking it out.

>>86847907

The thing is that Kamala and Miles actually do fairly okay both sales and popularity wise. Sam's books barely skirt cancellation numbers every time and you never see anyone talking about him other than to laugh at how much writers make him suffer.

>>86847943
I never read the next wave issue, but the one with Rich was shit.
Nobody on the boom could be fucked to just check a wiki to make sure they were getting it right.
Starstalker acts like bumbling moron and sleeps in a dumpster, even though he's synthetic
"Rich" acts way out of character and Ryan thinks he was powered by his helmet

>>86847980
>Sam's books barely skirt cancellation numbers every time
He's sold well below 20k for a while now. That's way lower than cancelation threshold

>>86847159
oh fuck no, please don't bring back the sphinx.

>>86847835
He was too shell-shocked by the corps' annihilation to do much of anything early on (which, while understandable, wasn't handled in an interesting way) and just got dragged around by Draxx and his side ho and then Quasar, and didn't get out of that funk until he'd let Wendell get fucked by Annihilus, and from that point until killing Annihilus he had almost no characterization. I read Annihilation for Rich because I liked Sam so much, but he was like the least interesting part of it.

>>86847816
Fuck off

>>86847883
>A different opinion than mine is a shill
>Low sales mean a book is bad
>>>/trash/

>>86847920
>>86847952
Star Lord was the Solo to Rich's Skywalker

>>86847980

Nova is currently below the cancellation line and has been for a while. The only reason it's still around is Loeb.

>>86848055
>Someone with a different opinion than me is a liar and shouldn't call me names
Fuck off. I've read this trash and it deserves these pathetic sales

>>86848055
>accuse others of lying
>get offended when called a shill
I like Sam too, but fuck off.

>>86847980
His first book was doing okay (not great, but okay) for most of the run, though. It's only his current book that's in cancellation numbers.

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>>86848088
Sure man, sure

>>86848171
Around the second half he was at 23k and dwindled from there to about 18k

>>86848212
Have some fucking respect. Mettle doesn't deserve to be dragged into your petty bullshit

>>86847956
Why would he be mad? Brevoort loves Rich. He just despises Rich's fans

>>86847920
It's the artist who compared him to Han Solo. The writer compared him more to Buck Rogers.

>>86849109
The artist is co-writing, anon.

>>86849117
Crap, you're right. Still Loveness even sounded like he was trying to correct him with that statement. I'm still staying positive about this book which is more than I can say about the rest of marvel at the moment

>>86847159
>segue way
>segway way
English is so wonky with pronounciation even natives can't write it properly it seems.

>>86847224
>We want a little bit of everything to create a nice diverse flavor for the series.
Sounds great if they can pull it off, but it might also become a really slow moving book if they overdo it.
All in all they seem to have a decent set of ideas going into this.
Let's see if it works out. And then let's see whether book doesn't get fucked over by editorial. And then let's finally see, if the series stays alive and in good hands after the first year.

>>86851379
>it might also become a really slow moving book
We live in an age where the average comic arc is 6 issues thanks to the popularization of decompression and writing-for-the-trade. Slow moving is practically the default.

>>86851485
There's still differences. Take New Avengers for example where most things get wrapped up in about 2 issues or 3 and stuff moves on pretty quickly.
Sure it's still decompressed by 1970's standards, but it's a far cry from Bendis' usual 16 page abominations that contain about as much plot as an average Dragonball Z episode.

>>86851740
A common complaint I see about New Avengers is that it "moves too fast." This is a genuine complaint I've seen multiple times both on /co/ and from talking to people at my LCS.

>>86851776
People are idiots. It's like people shitting on stylized art.

>>86851821
>People are idiots. It's like people shitting on stylized art.
Shit man that thread we had for the story time of Luke Cage's new book fucking proved that

>>86847069
does anyone care? they both suck

>>86851776
That terrifies me. Did these people read comics before decompression?

>>86852497
Well I can't speak for the /co/mrades, but no. A lot of these people started reading comics with stuff like Ultimate Spider-man, and USM is like the quintessential decompressed book.

>>86847417
When did Loeb hate Rich it's more like this anon said >>86847537 and he even had Gamora shit on Sam about how he was being a disgrace to Rich's legacy at some point.

Brevoort is an ass and King troll more than anything but Annihilation and the DnA GotG happened partially because of him.

>Dan and Andy and Keith deserve all the credit in the world for the success of Guardians, and another unsung hero in this was Tom Brevoort. Andy Schmidt—who of course also deserves applause for getting the Cosmic ball rolling again at Marvel—had championed and built “Annihilation”, which was all created under Tom’s guidance. Tom was now overseeing me on “Conquest” and I was bouncing everything off him and taking his advice, and he contributed immensely to the Marvel Cosmic books during the run from “Annihilation” to the “Thanos Imperative”.

http://www.multiversitycomics.com/interviews/the-secret-origins-of-2008s-guardians-of-the-galaxy-revealed-with-editor-bill-rosemann-interview/

I honestly think he was more angry with dealing with hardcore Dickfags.

>>86853378
I don't know what Tom was expecting
Sam has one of the worst introductions a character can have and was basically a slap in the face to Nova's fans.
When they were upset, Brevoort was like "Yeah, well fuck you assholes". Just built up from there.

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>>86847835
>Also did you forgot that every nova centurion who tried to carry the entire nova force before Rich went fucking insane.

This, Dick Rider took the whole load and not just anyone can do that.

>>86847867
His first run plus New Warriors

>>86849499
He said he had Han Solo's confidence, Han is a very confident character and Rich is more complicated in that department because when it comes to his personal life he tends to doubt himself a lot but if it comes down to fighting a bad guy he will go full force at them and wing it confident that he will win.

>>86847069
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>>86847134
>No eight point Nova Prime star

WTF is he back to being a centurion?!

>>86847200
Pls keep Meme-Lord and the Bendis Guardians away, Rich can go meet with the New Warriors tho.

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>>86847790
It's nice

>>86853507
What was his introduction like, anyway?
I never read it.

>>86853828
He fell from the sky flying drunk and Captain America took a selfie with him.

>>86847100
>that cover
Man, I hope Rich or Worldmind tricking itself into being Rich is sorted out quickly, I just want a cool team-up

>>86855787
They are treating it like it's Rich for the moment and it's that and not a bait n switch.