>most people nowadays complain that "adult" cartoons

>>86766859
Just take a normal adult story and have it animated. Unless it's a comedy then people would call it a kids show if I left off the occasional shock and swear.

Look at Steven Universe, the episode where Greg was just trying to clean out his storage unit, it's pretty obvious Amethyst took advantage of him sexually in the past with her shape shifting, never mind his son almost died to shape shifting recently. Amethyst sends him into shell shock again with her shape shifting. This is all kinds of fucked up to an adult with more than two brain cells. But it had no swearing and it kept the horrible part of it subtle and implied, so this horrific form of psychological and sexual abuse against a grown man was considered child friendly.

...so what's the issue here...

>>86766859
political debates but animated

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>>86767015
>Steven universe

>>86766859
A cartoon without shock humor and swearing

>>86766859
I would animate Oglaf

Rick and Morty and Bojack Horseman.

Actually have adult and dark themes, but not too dark that it would count as being edgy for the sake of edgy

>>86766859

I would make a noir murder-mystery because that's what I am in the mood for right now. I want a noir cartoon that isn't an anime.

>>86767114
Given as an example of a 'kids show' with some extremely fucked up events but it's considered a kids show because it lacks what the OP describes as prevalent in adult cartoons.

Without swearing and shock value it's considered a kids show and people let kids watch it.

>>86767015
Yeah but normies don't brand the show as an "adult" show because they don't watch it and it's on Cartoon Network, so that doesn't count.
Frisky Dingo is a better example of a show that used less gratuitous shock humor (usually), barely any swearing and was all about the banter and dialogue.

>>86767202
So what kind of story would it be?

>>86766859
Isn't it simple really? Just go further than what kiddy cartoons could.

>Plot about relationships and sex
>Plot about jobs and it's stability
>Plot about friends and society

Sure I may have made generic examples, but people could think more if they tried for longer.

I want an adult Looney Tunes cartoon. The original shorts were aimed at adults yet they didn't have sex jokes, drug jokes, swearing, etc. It wasn't until the 70s or 80s that Looney Tunes became seen as for kids only.

Political thriller set in a setting I've been working on. Like game of thrones minus the rape and Warcraft minus the utterly retarded parts.

>>86766859
Like any average cartoon except the characters can now say fuck if they stub their toe or lose someone important to the icy grip of death

Also allow death to be shown if it does occur, thought not in an over the top shock value sort of way. Just accept the big bad actually killed the person and not leave it ambiguous and up for debate

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>>86766859
Dilbert is a great example of an adult cartoon. Something along those lines that touches of work environment and political issues of the current generation.

Adult cartoons? You mean anime?

Here's the problem: If it's not reliant on edgy bullshit, it's considered a kid's cartoon.

As for all those "good adult cartoon" plots? You know, like >>86767286 suggested, there's no reason for them to be cartoons. It's be completely possible, and far cheaper, to make it live-action.

Is King of the Hill considered adult?

How did King of the Hill get it so right and have 13 seasons and there's still nothing like it?

>>86767308
The 2011 series was aimed for adults.

>>86767404
I think you should kill yourself, Dilbert.

>>86766859
Something like gumball or zim, just more guts were there can be, some more rude jokes like rocko, and fan service when warranted

>>86766859
isnt the new samurai jack gonna fix this?

>>86766859
Kinda like kids cartoons but with less restrictions, there's no need to be over-the-top edgy.

>>86767440

I hate this. It's true that live action is cheaper but the fact that animation is regulated to kids media is annoying. I don't mind kids cartoons but I wish cartoons targeted all demographics and genres like live action, literature, and music does. There's literally no reason animation should be only for kids. There's nothing inherently kiddie about it, it's a socially engrained idea.

>>86767467

So why was it on Cartoon Network and marketed at kids?

>>86767424

Most anime are actually not aimed at adults. Even in Japan liking anime as an adult is weird. Naruto, Bleach, DBZ, and basically everything on Adult Swim is aimed at the 8-17 year old crowd. Genuinely adult anime - seinen and josei - are comparatively rare.

>>86766859
"adult" just means "not for kids"

>>86766859
King of the Hill

>>86767805
King of the Hill could've been done in live-action.

>>86767847
like they could find good enough kid actors or a man with no shins

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>>86767015
>adult show
>look at Steven Universe

>>86768115
>what is makeup

A contemplative exploration of various sexual fetishists, living together under one roof.

Contract Obari

Angel Blade season 3

A 25 year old woman gets booted out of her parent's house because she is too lazy to do anything and ends up working for the king as a knight, gets fired because she does a sloppy job killing the dragon destroying the castle regardless that she was the only one to be in good if not great shape when everyone else got burned to a crisp.

She ends up becoming a freelance knight when living with a magic cat girl who not only runs a shop but the shop is also her house and a male freelance knight who left a boarding house due to a augment with it's owner.

All 3 characters are 25 years of age and it is a mix between Gummi Bears and Futurama.

How is it?

>>86768192
Well, Steven Universe is the Ocarina of Time of television. It's the greatest show ever.

>>86768416
It is not, that will be Mighty Mouse The New Adventures.

>>86768464
But it is, maybe Mighty Mouse will become the Wind Waker of television.

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>>86767227
>Samurai Jack
>Sym-Bionic Titan
>Ben 10
>Invader Zim
>Avatar
>Justice League
>Batman TAS
>Superman TAS
>Batman Beyond

>>86767227
you just replied to a post showing that cartoon, m8

>>86768488
No, thats Ren & Stimpy (Dic Beany & Cecil is Majora's Mask)

Sandman animated series
Y'know, take advantage of the medium

>>86768416
>Steven Universe is the Ocarina of Time

So two things I found boring as fuck?

>>86768494
No.

>Mighty Mouse The New Adventures
>Ren & Stimpy
>Tiny Toon Adventures
>Animaniacs
>Pinky And The Brain
>Freakazoid
>Darkwing Duck
>DuckTales
>Gummi Bears

You are right about Batman & Superman however.

One word: eldritch.

>>86768610
No, two things that are unmatched and unrivaled in high quality. You just don't understand.

>>86766859
>How would YOU make an "adult" cartoon /co/?
Why do people still have this fucked up idea that I can't be unsatisfied with somethin unless I can do better?

Should I swallow any shitty song that is on radio because I can't sing? If I order a steak and they burn it should I just eat and pay anyway because I would bur it too? Should I not complain about bad shows because I'm not a writer or animator? I'm the consumer,I have the right to be a annoying cunt and I wiill use it

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>>86768635
No, far from it, pic related.

Bob's burgers

>>86768565
This, there's a lot of comics that could be adapted and change people's perceptions on animation- there's fun stuff and serious stuff to work from.

>>86766859
Johnny Bravo reboot on Adult Swim.

>>86768380
Shit

A 25 years old woman in the times of knights castles and kings should be a grandmother already

>>86768676
Flintstones is like the Super Mario Bros of television.

>>86768635
Ocarina isn't even the best Zelda game

>>86768735
It takes place in modern day Ireland (or a parody in other words).

With smart phones and tablets.

>>86768744
Bob's burgers is incredibly well animated sometimes.

>>86768771
But it is. And so is Steven Universe being the best thing on television ever.

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Just do normal sitcom, but animate it.

>>86768416
So, fucking overrated and not even the best thing that came out from its creators? Accurate.

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>>86768766
More like Donkey Kong.

Speaking of those 2.

>>86767440
One massive advantage of animation is that characters behave exactly like you intend them to. No retakes, no hiring expensive actors who know how to act. You just have voice actors. The pursuit of perfection is much closer.

You also have a fluid transformation into fantastical elements that doesn't rely on special effects, which comprises a lot of budget for modern movies nowadays anyway.

A simple story that I'd do:

A kid's perspective on his dad. His dad is one dimensional and makes silly dad jokes that make his son cringe. He works all the time and doesn't get out much. The son grows up and applies to go to college but learns that something isn't quite right with his paperwork. He finds out that his dad doesn't have legal paperwork. They resolve the paperwork and now the family decides to visit the dad's country since he can travel.

The son learns that his happy cheerful dad was a person who suffered a lot, and to mask his pain he acts in plain stupid ways to forget the pain.

>>86768854
You are wrong, good sir. Ocarina of Time is the greatest game ever, and Steven Universe is the greatest television show. They are unbeatable and unrivaled in high quality.

>>86768795
No, not good enough for adults.

This is what adults want in terms of animation quality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWnWwN1z_UM

>>86768793
Oh, then that's ok I guess

>>86768900
Steven Universe is not Tiny Toons.

>>86766859

Adapt a historical setting to the fucking letter. Make it feel adventurous, epic and exciting but also dont shy away from showing vruesome and horrific elements. None of the pop culture shit, make it as close as possible and contextualize everything throught storytelling. Don't take sides.

>Life of Alexander the great
>The Punic wars
>The Hunnic invasions
>The first crusades
>The 100 year wars

>>86768957
But Tiny Toons is the Superman 64 of television.

>>86768928
Good.

>>86768957
Go home, Famicom.

>>86766859
The same way I'd make a children's cartoon, except without being the limitations of avoiding swearing and heavier violence/sexual themes. Just focus on telling a good story

>>86769075
Like with this >>86768380

>>86768380
Sounds like my life.

>>86769156
I see.

>>86767847
Yes, and?

>>86766859

Litterally just make a regular cartoon but don't dumb it down or make something feel obviously censored. Add some more complex situations/themes and that's it.

>>86769229
In short, watch this.
http://www.b99.tv/video/russian-rhapsody/

>>86767015
>It's pretty obvious Amethyst took advantage of him sexually in the past with her shape shifting
Nice headcanon, dawg.

>>86769298
Gogo Dodo was the son of the original dodo from Porky In Wackyland.

Also those gremlins were doing the same things to the Axis plains as well and that gremlin was in Journey To The Center Of Acme Acres and Night Ghoulery, both Telecom efforts.

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>>86767015
>Look at Steven Universe
Here's a better idea! How bout I open a kickstarter and use the money I get from children to buy professional bullies?

You better look the fuck out son because I'm gonna commission your bad time. My men won't leave until your prostate resembles a shopping center.

>>86769440
Thank you for bestowing me with this knowlege, anon. I should seek out more Gremlin episodes, I thought there was only one.
Actually now that I think of it I remember one of the gremlin episodes of TT at least. Not much just a snapshot in my brain.

>>86769535
With "THAT" gremlin, there is only 1 (Falling Hare), but there was another gremlin short (Russian Rhapsody).

>>86766859

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>>86766859
You don't.

You don't try to make a "kid's show" or try to make an "adult show". You just try to make a show that doesn't treat its audience like they're either
a) Mentally retarded hyperactive six year olds who can't go five seconds without fart jokes or strobe effects or
b) Mentally retarded edgy teenagers who can't go five seconds without tits or gore on screen

Kids can handle big stories, big ideas, drama.
Adults can enjoy simple stories, casual narratives, comedy.

You don't have to go all the way to one extreme or another for a show to work. That's why all the best animated shows are the ones that find a happy middle ground

>>86769509
If you're too weak to do the bullying yourself then they won't listen to a faggot like you.

>>86770626
>i live a humorless life

>>86768986
Tiny Toons convinced me that referencial humor can be done RIGHT.

Watch "Hollywood Plucky".

>>86767847
With how injury-prone they were I don't think so.

>>86769426
>>Muchichi
You... BAKA gaijin!

what if there were a bunch of food like food in the store and they could talk and fuck eachother huh huh huh

>>86770518
Teddy Ruxbin was my first memory of a cartoon that gave a flying fuck about continuety. I loved that show, i never had the toy, wasn't interested in a teddy bear with mechanical parts because not as huggable but I'm glad we had that on our four and a half Farmervision channels.

>>86768317
>>86768494
i feel you guys have done pretty well in summarizing adult cartoons.

>>86766859
Basically I'd just make a normal cartoon, only now I wouldn't need to worry about censors for anything, but really nothing else different at all.

>>86767472
Hey. I want you to go to this website. It's called W-W-W dot N-F-L dot com. Go check it out.

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I'd argue that a fair portion of the adult swim line up are actual decent examples of Adult cartoons, but then, I imagine most people here would jump down my throat for several reasons.

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>>86772186
Football is gay and you should feel gay

>>86766859
rick and morty but with slightly less reddit

>>86772277
I don't know what feeling gay is like. Perhaps you should train me, what with you being an expert and all.