Why the fuck is /co/ supporting an Inception ripoff? They are

Because console wars kiddies are one track minded.

>>86581670
I'm gonna laugh when this movie makes less than Suicide Squad but is still considered a "success."

>>86581670
Remember when that BvS trailer with Doomsday came out and it had the "is she with you?" line and then /co/ fucking lost it's shit because "GOD DAMN DC IS GONNA FUCKING MAKE IT A QUIP FEST TO MAKE IT LIKE THE MCU QUIP OF JUSTICE REE!"
I remember.

Hi /tv/

>>86581670
>jokes

OH NO

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>tfw these arguments are even more autistic than console wars because you're not spending $400+ to watch a movie

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>>86581741
That was like one of two quips in the whole movie, and it was actually fine in context.

Unlike Marvel.

It was already going to be a ripoff of Dr Strange comics, what different does it make it if rips off something else in the process as well?

>>86581806
>MCUck logic
get your head checked

>>86581822
Why do you think I'm a MCU fan? I'm just saying, it's not like you haven't already read a Strange origin before. Unless you're an idiot who thinks live action is superior to comics or something there's no real reason to think about the movie at all.

>>86581804
I can't understand that there were people that didn't get the joke.

>>86581936
Why?
I didn't get it and I'm an American who played sports as a kid.
Orange slices is not a thing.

>>86581804
>reading comprehension
>I dont have it
>replies anyway

>>86582148
That was an obvious false flag though.

>>86581777
OH YEAH

>>86581777
Nice, pretty nice.

>>86581741
Except they literally reshot half of Doctor Strange to add more quips and RDJ

>>86582401

>half the movie

Come the fuck on.

>>86582401
source

>>86581670
I hope you enjoy your Batman featuring the Justice League movies

Oh I'm not supporting it. As a general rule, I don't support any movie whose publicity includes posters with a teal and orange color scheme.

It's almost as bad as "back of guy facing a really really really big thing" type of posters

>>86582545
Who wouldn't be looking forward to more kino?

>>86582770
People who enjoy comics.

>>86581727
>Marvel Studios movie
>fresh RT inevitable
>less BO numbers than critically panned SS
anon, c'mon now...

>>86581670

>Why the fuck is /co/ supporting an Inception ripoff?

>Guys, apples are things you put in your mouth and orange are also things you put in your mouth!

>So apples are rip offs of oranges.

You're that dumbass that thinks Lord of the Ring's rips off Harry Potter too aren't you?

>>86582531
Marvel leaks.
If those are true then Thor 3 will be capekinographe.

>>86581670
"This movie looks to be filled with jokes. >:("

>>86582026
It's a soccer thing.

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>>86582786
>mfw I love DC's comics AND movies.

Been reading DC for 16 years.

>>86582823
>Winter Soldier: 717 million
Suicide Squad: 731 million (without china)

really makes you think

>>86581670
>Inception was absolutely the first time the concept of bent or illusory imagery has ever been used in any medium

>Using a general visual concept is ripping it off

Well, I guess every movie that has ever featured a car chase is just ripping off Bullitt

>>86582786
>>86582948

Same here, family.

>>86582861
>city buildings folding in on themselves
>anything but a blatant, shameless Inception rip off

Look, I'll post in this thread, but this movie console war stuff has gotten really lazy.

>>86582866
>Marvel leaks
>no legitimate source

Fuck off

>>86583006
I know. People are really getting desperate to get their egos off. I guess it's just years of bitternes.

>>86582966
Solid point. I would argue, however, that the general public didn't really care much for Cap, as his first movie was seen as mediocre and his portrayal in Avengers was dogshit. SS has the benefit of featuring Harley Quinn, who is DC's new hot thing, and the Joker, who is often considered the most iconic and beloved villain in all of capeshit.

>>86583034
Counterpoint: SS was immediately critically ravaged and made a buttload of cash anyway, while Winter Soldier has like 80-90 percent from the word go.

>>86583031
Agreed. I don't understand the appeal of getting invested in X or Y company and fervently championing it as if it was a member of one's own family. It's like the modern corporate American version of religious zealotry (which is also incidentally alive and well in America). Does not one of these console wars types have anything better to invest in? I mean fuck, at least the religion shit makes sense because those people believe that the shit actually exists.

>>86583061
In all fairness, the first trailer for SS looked like dogshit in motion.

>>86583061
You got me there. Another well made point.

>>86583107
While I agree, most of the people I talked to (and apparently a fair number of youtubers, who most casuals seem to use as a yardstick for quality and interest) seemed to think the first trailer was great and it seemed to generate a fair amount of buzz. Add onto that all the Jared Leto crazy method shit that intrigues people, and I think it was a sure hit, even with negative reviews.

>>86582986
It was a half a minute scene in Inception, not the whole damn movie.

>>86583034

And to be fair Winter Soldier came off the back of one of the highest grossing and loved movies of the past decade while SS was coming out after the critical failure of BvS and was savaged by critics itself.

The average for Cape flicks is about 700mil these days. These Box Office fights are getting a bit to toxic for me. It's not like any of us have shares. My favorite comic movie of the past decade is Dredd and it was a complete flop

>>86581670

The movie actually looks good, but it does try too hard with the Hollywood factor and mom-look-I'm-clever jokes. You know Hollywood, it takes a gimmick and beats it to death for a period of time. Remember the Inception noise or robots with huge, spinning flames in their chest fad trailers had for almost a decade? Yeah. -_-

Captcha: NO PARKING

>>86582604
>"back of guy facing a really really really big thing"

When was the last time we got one of those?

>>86582882
>>86582882
>It's a soccer thing.

So it's out of place

>>86581727

This movie will make at least double, if not triple of
Suicide Squad I bet (domestic). Go home, DC.

>>86583176
>Box Office fights are toxic

Hell yes, brother. I'm so tired of this shit. I really wonder how this got started on /co. Was it imported from /tv, perhaps? Is it a result of the assinine 24hr online news cycle that has to set up movies as if they are covering a boxing match, so that we can have winners and losers?

>>86581670

This movie looks really expensive. They aren't going to lie like they did with GOTG and say the budget was only 170mil are they?

>>86581804
>Fine in context
>Bruce saw the Lexcorp archived footage showing WW and forwarded it to her
>Asks if she's with Superman for the most forced quip in the entire film anyway

???

>>86583230

It's not just /tv/ but they make up a big part of it. I just hate people who lay obvious b8 like this >>86583221 asshole.

I think Doctor Strange will be the best cape flick this year but the chances of it making double what SS did are low

>>86583240

Big actors and constant Inception style special effects. Yeah.

I rarely go to movies, but will beseeing it in IMAX 3D becuz I'm a magus. :3

>>86583221
Is this what passes for bait these days?

These threads are getting really pathetic.

Remember Constantine with Keanu Reeves? That was a cool movie.

>>86583197
The first Dr. Strange poster.

>>86583289
>>86583240

How did CW cost so much with such inferior effects? I'm betting 50mil of that budget went straight to RDJ

>>86583265
>100+ year old being

>wonders if she's an alien like Supes

YOU CAN'T BE TOO STUPID FOR CAPESHIT

>>86583284

Hey, we are all comic fans here. Movies are great! I wished we had this shit growing up, and where is the harm in ruffling the feathers of a fellow rival, huh? Trash talk is fun, and we get it, too.

>>86583316

Hollywood with budgets is like Washington D.C.: it just gets out of hand.

>>86583290
Not even bait, tongue in cheek smack talk.

>>86583320
>Alien like Supes
>Supes is supposed to know every extraterrestrial being because he himself is one.

Okay, isn't batman supposed to be the world's greatest detective? I don't think assumptions like that are what gave him that title.

>>86583323
>>86583284

I'm pretty sure Strange will have a lot more competition than SS did. The lack of competition is why Suicide Squad is still making millions at the weekend 2 months after release.

>>86581727
Marvel drones are great at mental gymnastics, so they'll find a way to explain it away

>>86583284
I'm hyped but trying to keep expectations low to avoid potential disappointment. The more they talk about Ditko and doing real interdimensional shit, the more I get a little turned on though.

>>86583363
>I play dumb on the Internet

7/10 i'm actually kind of angry

>>86583364

Nice, I heard it dropped off after opening. Also, competition is a factor. Who knows, but my gut was telling me in the long run it will be double. I might be a little bias, too. :P

>>86583370
Funny with how DCfags rave about Snyder's 2deep4me capekino I'd figure they'd be the ones to try to find an explanation in anything.

>>86583394
>:P
Troll or tourist.

Either way, pls leave and never come back.

>>86583364
>Films to be released in November 2016
>Fantastic Beasts
>Arrival (Something about aliens)
>Dr. Strange

>>86582531
http://collider.com/doctor-strange-reshoots-dan-harmon/

>Doctor Strangeis taking a trip toHarmontown. Principal photography already wrapped monthsago on the latest Marvel Studios movie starringBenedict Cumberbatchas the Sorcerer Supreme. However,Communitycreator and writerDan Harmonhas been hired to pen script pages to be used for reshoots.

>>86583370
See what I mean?
>>86583284
>>86583323

Pffft.

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>>86583429
>Communitycreator and writerDan Harmonhas been hired to pen script pages to be used for reshoots.

>Marvel keeps sabotaging themselves
I'm okay with this.

>>86583176
>Winter Soldier came off the back of one of the highest grossing and loved movies of the past decade

No it came after Iron Man 3 and Thor 2 which both sucked

>>86583429
Every movie has reshoots? But I already knowent has this is going to go.

>>86583323
I have no doubt that everyone gets trash talk, but I think that what might be a little fun to some gets waaay too real for some on this board. There's banter and then there's autistic raving.

>>86583415

Tourist, and honestly I'm really appreciating the crowd here by bringing me back to my cartoon roots along with seemingly lots of intelligent, sardonic wit. So, thank and fuck you. It's refreshing.

>>86583415
You first, asshole

>>86583460

Yeah, no. Not autistic.

>>86583230
>>86583284
I think it may have been /frz/ who started box office shitposting here in general. I don't really remember it before then. Maybe /tv/ brought it for comic adaptions though.

>>86583452

Yeah man everybody hated Iron Man 3. It's why it made over a billion fucking dollars

>>86583446
Dan Harmon has been working with them since TWS.

>>86583446
>Sabotaging themselves

How so? They had the Russos, who cut their teeth making Arrested Development and Community episodes, direct what is arguably their two best movies.

>>86583394
>I heard it dropped off after opening.

Not really much more than anything. The drop offs are always huge because everybody wants to see it opening week. I think CW had something like a 60% drop

>>86583482
I'm not saying you personally. But you have to admit there is a lot of that going around on this board.

>>86583505
And it shows. Need that Whedon replacement.
>remember that REALLY OLD movie?

>>86583508
And their movies look like tv shows.

Huge Marvel fan. The trailers for both X-Men: DoFP and Thor 2: DW made me cry. Then the movies made me cry in a totally different way...

You can thank the masses for that one.

Is it me or do other people think Singer sucks as an overall director? He does gimmicks well, but his cohesion sucks being unbalanced IMHO.

>>86583552
Fuck off with your weak ass bait.

>>86583555
>Thor 2: DW

That always looked like shit. And DoFP was a great film, the fuck are you talking about?

>>86583555
X-Men 1 and 2 were only good because of Hayter.

>>86583394
Every movie drops after opening. Civil War dropped almost as much as SS.

The reason that the number of viewers seeing a comic book movies drops from the first week to the second should be obvious- most comic book fans go to see it on the opening weekend. This is also why these movies have huge openings.

>>86583490
It's definitely strong on /tv/ right now. I find it fascinating that a board who members are all about "kino" and "cinema" and disdain for popcorn movies, spend so much time arguing about the profits of exactly what they claim to despise.

>>86583590
>what is DOFP

>>86583575
>DofP a great film
It had two good scenes, everything was completely forgetful anon...

>>86583614
Ok, you got me there. It's overrated still.

>>86583614

And First Class.

And The Wolverine.

The Last Stand and Oranges: Tangerine are the only real shit ones in the series. Even Apocalypse is more wildly uneven then outright bad.

>>86583616
>everything was completely forgetful

what

>>86583575

Their Trailers pacing, and plot looked perfectly balanced.

Man, I cherished the fuck out of the X-Men cartoon DoFP. The movie trailer seriously touched me, but it was like he made a sloppy pizza when it came to the whole movie. I think he does parts well, but his overall vision is lacking or gets side tracked in its execution.

>>86583651
I liked Apoc.

>>86583552
>look like tv shows

That's another common thing to sling around both /tv and this board that I disagree with. I would argue that they look no better or no worse than any other action movie out there today. Are they as visually striking as Snyder's movies? No. But that doesn't mean they are poorly shot. I have yet to see any convincing argument other than random, out of context screen shots with no elaboration on what makes them "bad".

>>86583616
>It had two good scenes, everything was completely forgetful anon...
Anon, that's not how you spell Apocalypse.
>>86583651
First Class was Vaughn's movie.
And The Wolverine was crap.

>>86583594

That's not what I meant, I meant largely.

>>86583651

First Class was overall enjoyable, I admit.

>>86583687
Apoc had only one good scene, and it was pretty much the same as one of the two from DoFP.

>>86583677

I liked it while fully admitting it's a mess of a movie. It feels like the season finale to an X-Men TV show more then an actual film. It's a handful of excellent moments strung together by almost no plot, there's so little narrative the film wastes like 15 minutes on a Weapon X sequence that means literally nothing to the main story.

>>86583687

>And The Wolverine was crap.

baka desu senpai

>>86583727

>not the nuke sequence
>not magneto destroying Auschwitz
>not Jean becoming the Phoenix

I'm still pissed Apocalypse's voice was nasally.

I get him being a scrawny kid at first (like in X-Men: Evo), but GOD DAMN they should have found the biggest black man with a Michael Clarke Duncan voice they could find to play the final product.

>>86583686
>very thoughtless blocking, almost no interesting framing

>shit color palettes
They look gross, my man.

IM2
IM3
CW
TWS
Avengers 1
Thor 1 and 2

All look look bland as hell.

>>86583755
>not Jean becoming the Phoenix
Looked like a PS2 game.

>>86583773
They should've at least gotten a theater actor. Apocalypse was missing the deep voice, but more than that he needed that loud, theatrical delivery. Isaac's not a bad actor but he's not the kind of guy you get to play this larger than life character. Even he seemed to realize he wasn't right for it- he kept trying to make up for his lack of bass by trying to put on this Marlon Brando-like whisper that kind of works at times, but then he tries shouting and it falls apart.

>>86583820
stale meme

>>86583825

To be fair it's going to be hard for anyone to really act under 40 pounds of latex.

>>86583820

Still a striking image.

>>86583370
>How good a movie is is more important than how much money it makes
>DCfags consider this mental gymnastics

I guess maybe from the perspective of a DCfag that's some really fancy braining.

>>86583825

YEEES

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuVxCwNdWhg

>>86583774
I appreciate you actually elaborating. I would agree on some of these but not most. IM2 was shot by pretty much the same director and crew, so I don't see how that film would look inferior to the first (it was overall though). CW and WS were somewhat too desaturated for my taste, but then again MoS and BvS were also hella desaturated, so i didn't care for the color palette of any of them. But that's what they were going for to achieve that "gritty" "realistic" look. I would be interested in some more specific examples of poor blocking/framing, if you don't mind. I'm curious to learn more about your take on them.

>>86583555
>Singer sucks as a director?

I haven't seen one good movie from him since Usual Suspects.

>>86583885
I'm going to download a bunch of yify rips just to explain my opinions.
Sorry.
Claim victory or whatever.

>orange and blue
AAAARGH

>>86583897
You haven't seen X-Men, X2, or DOFP?

Get on that son.

>>86581670

>inception rip off

This keks me every time. Just thinking of all the normies who believe Nolan invented psychadelia and surrealism. Probably the same Chads who vote TDK a top ten movie on IMDB. Nolan truly is the idiot's auteur. Bravo.

>>86583955
Not him, but:
X-Men was decent but hasn't aged well
X2 is an aimless mess and I've never understood the love for it
DOFP was alright but not really solid

>>86583966
see
>>86582986

>>86583939
I'm not interested in claiming "victory", bro. No need to to grab rips and get clinical, just looking for a specific example and explanation. No one is going to "win" anything here, I'm just trying to understand.

>>86583989
>hasn't aged well
This is almost always a nothing statement.
Opinion discarded.

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>>86582986

Yeah, no. Go to bed.

>>86584007
Okay gimme a sec.

>>86584010
Wow, you showed me.

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>>86584029
>ignoring th identical color pallete of the inception ans strange scenes

Marlel cuck on suicide watch.

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>>86584030
>Downloading YIFI

>>86584116
Look at the shadows, kek.

>>86584007
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq4KGOMMgn0

Just in this video we see 2 things.

We see that none of the structure of the airport is ever used to create a visually intesreting shot.
It's all medium shots or close ups, and when they do pull back, it looks flat and lifeless.

2. It barely looks color graded. It looks like raw footage from a dslr. There is nothing cinematic about it.
And with Spider Man and the airport itself being 100 percnet CG, there is hardly ever any depth to the image.
It has that video gamey flatness.

Even the ending fight, while set in a cool location, does nothing interesting with lighting or framing beyond looking professional.

I'm honestly curious about the reception this movie will get. I don't really see people talking about it other than /co/ and even then I can count on one hand the amount of posts I've seen here about it.

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>>86584148
Now we're getting somewhere! See, these are valid points. Now, is there anything from a marvel flick, especially civil war, that you do think is well shot? Or could you contrast this with a good shot from other capeshit?

>>86584148
Take note, this is how an actual argument is made. Specific examples, elaboration, etc. This allows an actual discussion instead of shit flinging and company wars. God bless, you anon.

>>86584259
I think IM1 looks great.
More energy in the camera, and more saturated colors.
The CG looks better than the newer movies as well.

I though Apocalypse was beautiful.

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>>86584336
fug forgot pic

>>86584298
Thank you m8.

>>86581670
>looks to be filled with jokes
I only saw one over the course of two trailers, but why is this a bad thing?

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>>86584259
>>86584336
Here's an example also.

Ignore what the webm is about (armor), which was some guy trying to troll.
I didn't create this.
Focus on the colors and framing.

It does show the difference in style between IM1 and IM3.

>>86582026
You're just retarded. I'm an American who doesn't play sports and even I know this is a thing. I know football players soccer players and even basketball players who did this.

>>86584148
To add to this, while it probably started much earlier as anon mentioned here >>86583774 it definitely became more noticeable in Avengers 1 and onward.

I kinda suspect that might've been because Whedon set something of a precedent that the rest of the movies followed in suit. While Whedon isn't necessarily a *bad* director, his strength is mostly in dialogue and he isn't much of a visual thinker and his cinematography's always been a little bland for the most part as a result. A good chunk of Avengers 1 consisted mainly of mid-shots and over the shoulder shots that are staged with the main focus in the direct center of the frame, with the occasional interesting shot like the 360 team shot or the 180 staff shot thrown in.

The rest of the movies have more-or-less followed the same pattern ever since.

>>86584508
This.
TIH and Iron Man looked more cinematic.

>all those wide shots of that shithole favela thing Banner was living in
unff

>>86584545
You forgot First Avenger.

>>86581670
As long as this movie doesn't flop like SS then I'll be happy

>>86584557
I did indeed. Johnston is a pretty good director.

I was disappointed in Lockheart though with Thor.

>>86584545
>>86584580
>>86584508
I hope that Dr. Strange changes this somewhat. From what have i seen, the cinematography looks decent if not good.

>>86584643
It does like a bit more nicely staged.

>>86584545

TIH was helped by the fact that Leterrier is a pretty damn solid action director. So while a lot of the conversations and dramatic moments are pretty flat, he really wakes up for the setpiece sequences.

>>86584643

Derrickson has a lot of issues as a filmmaker, but he's never made an ugly film in his life.

>>86584508

>The rest of the movies have more-or-less followed the same pattern ever since.

I think Iron Man 3 showed a lot more visual creativity in the action then the average MCU film, whatever issues you have with the script aside.

The Iron Legion battle is probably my favourite of the big MCU monster mash finales.

Paprika was better than Inception.

>>86583034
not to mention 2 A list stars

>>86581670
Does someone actually give a fuck about cuckold strange? The premise of the character is basically that some 8 year old tried to invent his own superhero so its a cool badass wizard guy with an even more homo version of supermans costume

>>86584566
Suicide Squad didn't flop though.

>>86583686
Even if I'm a MCU slut, the movies really do look like tv shows. And it sometimes feels on purpose since Marvel keeps hiring TV people and structures the MCU like a long, multiple hours long TV series.

>>86588762
which is why it needed 20 threads a week since release defending itself?

>>86588713
the guy knows magic so he could technically beat superman with a level 1 spell

>>86588967
It's just bait threads of people looking for (you)s.

>>86588909
Avengers looks like a TV show, definitely. Whedon is no good with visuals. But none of the Iron Man movies look like TV, none of the Cap movies, neither of the Thor movies, Ant-man didn't, and GotG definitely didn't. You're full of shit, bro.

>>86584222
It'll do fine but I don't think it will be a giant blockbuster, like 400-600m worldwide.

>>86589383
>But none of the Iron Man movies look like TV
>>86584404