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New She-Hulk series http://www.avclub.com/article/marik o-t

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New She-Hulk series

http://www.avclub.com/article/mariko-tamaki-launches-new-jennifer-walters-hulk-s-242792?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=Main:1:Default
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>>86390917

>Jennifer Walters has had a rough summer. She suffered near-fatal injuries and the death of her cousin, Bruce “The Hulk” Banner, in the pages of Marvel’s Civil War II crossover event, and that trauma is the foundation of Walters’ new ongoing series debuting in December from writer Mariko Tamaki and artist Nico Leon. Hulk will explore how Walters’ turbulent emotional state impacts her efforts to resume her life as a lawyer and superhero, and ditching the She-Hulk marks a major shift for the character in the Marvel Universe.

>“The title She-Hulk evokes light-hearted stories about a Jennifer Walters who is at peace with herself and in full control of her powers,” says Marvel editor-in-chief Axel Alonso. “This isn’t that book. On the other hand, the title Hulk implies all of the baggage that comes with that comic’s 50+ year history—the ongoing battle with the monster within—and that’s why it’s more appropriate for this series. Jen went through major trauma in Civil War II, and Mariko and Nico’s story will deal with the fallout of that trauma—the anxiety and anger, sometimes self-destructive, that comes along with it. If there is light at the end of the tunnel, Jen is going to have to search hard for it, and she’s going to have to battle with some pretty big monsters—including the one within—to find herself again.”

>Mariko Tamaki’s work on books like Skim and the Eisner Award-winning This One Summer makes her an exceptional choice of writer to handle this new phase of the heroine’s life, and she has a talent for telling thoughtful, emotional stories about the human condition. She’s also shown that she can find compelling angles for licensed characters with her TMNT: Casey & April and Tomb Raider comics, and Tamaki makes a big move into superhero comics this December with both Hulk and her Supergirl: Being Super miniseries from DC Comics.
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>>86390917
Sweet, hopefully it isn't the stake-less, quirky, "fun" shite that plague most of Marvel women.
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>>86390946

>“Jen is absolutely shaped by the trauma she’s experienced,” says Tamaki. “Much of it was inspired by thinking about how different people deal with the hard things that happen in their lives, how memory, trauma, can infuse our whole being, be a physical presence in our lives. I was really into the idea of a Hulk, of the ability to transform into something close to monstrous, that’s still human, and heroic. It was interesting to think about what’s human about Hulk and vice versa.”

>Nico Leon has become one of Marvel’s most promising up-and-coming creators with his art on books like Ms. Marvel and Spider-Man, and Hulk is his first series debut at the publisher. “Nico Leon is an awesome artist,” says Tamaki. “I love the expressiveness, the speed and power, of his work.” That speed and power make Leon a great fit for superhero comics, but he’s most excited to handle Walters when she’s not in crime-fighting mode.

>“I love to draw normal life,” says Leon. “I am very excited to be able to draw the day-to-day life of a superhero who needs not to be a superhero all the time. And I am super excited to explore how her new status quo will affect her life and thus her personality and how it will manifest through her body language and interactions with common people and heroes alike.”

>“I think one of the most interesting and unique challenge in drawing her in this series will be to share with the readers her inside struggles,” says Leon. “All heroes have their own internal struggles, but in this series, Jen will be dealing with something new and huge that is happening inside her own mind. The great challenge will be to share that feeling with the readers. It is a serious topic and it needs our most careful approach.” This creative team’s track record suggests that Hulk will be handled with sensitivity and sophistication, and readers can join Jennifer Walters on her new path when [She-]Hulk #1 debuts in December.
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I don't want Hulk starring Jennifer Walters though.
I want She-Hulk (without terrible art).
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>Nico Leon
Okay I guess
>>86390953
But She-Hulk is actually a character suited for being a lighthearted comedy character....but I guess not as of late.
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Creative team:
>Writer: Mariko Tamaki
>Artist: Nico Leon
>Cover Artist: Jeff Dekal
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So is Amadeus getting de-powered or is the Totally Awesome title sticking around?
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>>86390953
>I hope She-Hulk won't be She-Hulk
okay
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>>86390953
Anon, a She-hulk omic SHOULD be light and fun.

Except from this interview, it seems like this is going to be "edgy and serious She-Hulk" which is absolute bullshit but hey, I'm sure your happy about it.
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The Hulk is now a woman. No more She-Hulk (because dats sexist), Jen is 'the' Hulk now. The trend continues.
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The Soule series was awesome, so my interest is piqued. pls don't fuck this up marvel s m h
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I don't know these names please educate.
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>>86390994
Totally Awesome is sticking around. TAHulk will be Amadeus. Adjectiveless Hulk will be Jennifer.
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>The title She-Hulk evokes light-hearted stories about a Jennifer Walters who is at peace with herself and in full control of her powers,” says Marvel editor-in-chief Axel Alonso. “This isn’t that book. On the other hand, the title Hulk implies all of the baggage that comes with that comic’s 50+ year history—the ongoing battle with the monster within—and that’s why it’s more appropriate for this series.


Oh cool, so it's not really going to be worth looking at. Nice
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>>86390994
>or is the Totally Awesome title sticking around?
Yes. #13 and #14 will have Jeremy Lin and has guest artist Luke Ross.
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>>86390994
Are they actually calling it Hulk though. It seems kind of noncommital, at the very least the article writer doesn't know whether or not to call it She-Hulk
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>>86391003
Only in the super hero genre, do fans want characters to stay the same for over 40 years. You're the reason Spider-Man sucks right now.
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>>86391019
Casey and April is probably the worst IDW TMNT mini.
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she gonna look like this again?
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>>86391035
>The title She-Hulk evokes light-hearted stories about a Jennifer Walters who is at peace with herself and in full control of her powers,”

Well we can't have that!
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>>86391048
See cover
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>>86390953
Fuck off.
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>>86390979
>Writer: Mariko Tamaki
I do not know who this is.

>Artist: Nico Leon
>Cover Artist: Jeff Dekal
Neat! At least the art should be decent.
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>>86390975
what the fuck even happened to this character? TMS was sucking major Marvel dick when this character got announced.
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>>86391076
>Tamaki
>literally who
For this board only.
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>>86390917
>Mariko Tamaki

Holy shit. I pray we get a Jillian guest issue.
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>>86391035
>Oh cool, so it's not really going to be worth looking at. Nice
Why? Because it isn't the same type of tone it's been for almost 40 fucking years. Because a character is actually going though an arc?

Fuck this genre an its fans
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>>86391019
The writer is some fatty Canadian lesbian who hasn't done anything noteworthy.
The artist has recently done some issues of Ms. Marvel and (Miles) Spider-Man which looked nice, so he's better than the last one they had working on She-Hulk.
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>>86391103
Because "We're treating She-Hulk like Hulk now after Civil War 2" is really a great direction and worthwhile character arc.
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>>86390963
>Hulk will be handled with sensitivity and sophistication
>sensitivity and sophistication
YUP KEEP STEERING THE COURSE MARLEL NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE.
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>>86390917
Okay, this is getting RIDICULOUS and STUPID. What the fuck is wrong with calling a female Hulk, She-Hulk? Are you embarassed she's a woman or what?

What's next? When's Jessica Drew gonna start calling herself Spider-Man?
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Yeah, this is a definite "buy the trade if it actually gets good word of mouth, otherwise ignore".
I don't particularly mind it being a more serious Jennifer, mostly because Marvel is overdosed on quirky lighthearted girl comics.
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>>86391092
She was a character in that one Black Widow YA prose nose. That back-up story was set-up for the novel and just to clarify that, yes, it was going to be canon. I don't think it was ever intended to be anything beyond "hey, buy this book."

From what I hear the novel itself wasn't very good but I never read it though so I can't say for sure.
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>>86391076
looked her bio on wikipedia. Canadian of Japanese and Jewish descent.
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>Nico Leon (tumblr style bullshit)
GOD DAMN IT!
>>86390975
>>86391003
>>86391005
>>86391074
Fuck you
Fuck you
Fuck you
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I'd love to get excited for a new Shulk book, but my cynicism for Marvel books is too high at the moment. I can't help but expect some stupid shit about the "pay gap" and how no one takes Jenn seriously because she's a women
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>>86391053
>You're the reason Spider-Man sucks right now.
But the reason why Spider-Man sucks right now is because they changed him.
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>>86391150
I think Red Widow is coming back in the Wasp book
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>>86391166
>My Avengers salary was always less than the other members because "She" was in my superhero name
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>>86391174
Yes the changed him to something nostalgic and familiar.
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>>86391176
In Ms. Marvel #12 first, in a back-up story.
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>>86391142
Read the interview. It's because this isn't really a She-Hulk book (which are usually light and fun that take the piss out of the Marvel Universe, maybe with some light 4th wall breaking) but a Hulk book (so edgy I AM A MONSTER LEAVE ME ALONE, STRONGEST ONE THERE IS bullshit).
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>>86390917
Anything is better than Soule, but this looks terrible.
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Ok, thank god, the artist can do cheesecake.
The question is will she?
Burn the fuck in hell Marvel if you don't let her.
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>>86391125
>The writer is some fatty Canadian lesbian who hasn't done anything noteworthy.

Jesus Christ this board. This One Summer gets genuinely meaningful awards and recognition from the comics community and the literary community but you only recognize the mediocre superhero artists.
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>>86391199
Being Iron Man is nostalgic and familiar?
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>>86391199
A billionaire is nostalgic and familiar? Or are you,talking about the black one?
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>>86391208
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Hopefully this sells better than Captain Marvel so Marvel can reconsider which female lead needs to be their wonder woman.
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>>86391220
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>>86390953
>I have never read a She-hulk comic now let me tell you what a She-hulk comic should be like
Did you get lost on your way to /tv/?
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>>86391223
>what is Universal Pictures
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>>86391166
This. The writer choice is nice but this is coming after the announcement of Supergirl Being Super so it just feels like more of Marvel trying to copy DC.
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>>86391208
I think she did the Bombshell Spider-Man issue
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>>86391006
No, Cho is 'the' Hulk. Jennifer is still She-hulk, the book is just called Hulk because it's tonally closer to a Hulk book than a She-hulk book.
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Thank Christ it won't be silly meta garbage.
I have been praying for a serious She Hulk book since RSH ended.
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>an angsty She-Hulk book
>called Hulk
This has to be a parody
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>>86391242
>what is wishful thinking

Let me dream anon
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>>86391208
>The question is will she?
See >>86391132
You really think NuMarvel will allow cheesecake in [the current year]?
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>>86391249
You know that comic books don't get pitched, creative teams attached, and finished to the point that they can start a december release overnight right?
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>>86391200
Well that's dumb. Why not put her as a back-up in Black Widow?
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Haven't read She Hulk since the John Byrne days, does she still know she's a comic book character?
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>>86391150
It was meant to be canon for MCU, not the 616 comics.
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>>86391295
It's 2016 you sperg. Have you been living in your basement without any outside contact for so long you don't even remember what year we're in?
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>>86391285
Do you want to wait for the distribution rights of future solo Hulk movies to revert to Marvel Studios?
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>>86391275
>X-Women book
>called X-Men
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>>86391310
I said it feels, not it is.
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>>86391339
For the most part no, Dan Slott's run had some winks at the audience that she still remembers but that was like a decade ago.

She knows she's in a videogame in Marvel vs Capcom though, so people still remember.
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good bye good old shulkie, you shall be missed
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>>86390953
The problem with this kind of statement is that She-Hulk is a character where that's appropriate.

It's best to tell the type of story that suits each character instead of forcing them into things (good or bad) just because of a trend.
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>>86391385
Why don't they just make a pornographic She-Hulk series?
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>>86391208
Let her? Probably but this book doesn't sound cheesecake friendly, I'd wager the most you can hope for is a flashback to when Jen was fun.
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>>86390917
>>86390946
>>86390963
But Cereal King already did edgy Jen. It's not new.
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>>86391375
Oh cool, when was that? MvC Shulk was great.
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>Civil War
>in the aftermath lighthearted character goes full edge
>literally Penance 2.0
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>>86391439
It's actually at least 3 times between both versions, all with Deadpool.

She mentions that if the game was made in 1991 she would be the one wacking people with a health bar.

She affirms to Wade that she can break the 4th wall as well in UMvC3, also mentioning that she'll kick his ass in MvC4 if it's ever made after a match.

She also had the best voice she would ever get.
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>>86390953

they will give her a black boyfriend. Mark my words.
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>>86391436
Hot damn.
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>>86391493
Wizards of Waverly Place was finally good for something.
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>>86390917
Hope the coloring here means we get a sexy gray She-Hulk and that this means she'll have her own version of Hulk's Fix-It personality. Because that personality was still fun despite being an edgy, gruff bouncer and quasi gangster Hulk.
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>>86390953
>I don't know anything about She-Hulk
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I hope she is bit beefier than usual.
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>>86391537
What does that have to do with Jen?
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>>86391406
Shut up Goyer.
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>>86390946
>>“The title She-Hulk evokes light-hearted stories about a Jennifer Walters who is at peace with herself and in full control of her powers,” says Marvel editor-in-chief Axel Alonso. “This isn’t that book. On the other hand, the title Hulk implies all of the baggage that comes with that comic’s 50+ year history—the ongoing battle with the monster within—and that’s why it’s more appropriate for this series. Jen went through major trauma in Civil War II, and Mariko and Nico’s story will deal with the fallout of that trauma—the anxiety and anger, sometimes self-destructive, that comes along with it. If there is light at the end of the tunnel, Jen is going to have to search hard for it, and she’s going to have to battle with some pretty big monsters—including the one within—to find herself again.”

Is this what anyone WANTS to read in a Shulkie book?
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>>86391582
Voiced by Maria Canals.
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>>86391126
Not that anon but you sound quite autistic. Just because whatever happens in Civil War and whatever the quality of it does not in any way dictate how the spin-off will turn out. Ellisbolt came out of Civil War and it was fucking good.
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>>86391436
Man he sure knows how to write a crap story every now and then
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>>86391635
Oh yeah, I only know her as Hawkgirl.
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>>86390917
I mean, the fact that she received loads of damage thanks to both the ANTI-THANOS MISSILE (Bendis patented, TM) and actual Thanos, and how Hulks can usually transform due to damage too, it's obvious She-Hulk would change too, but...

Is it really necessary to have her in a sorta grim book?

I mean, it might end up with her trying to live in peace and actually dealing with, and changing everyone's bullshit view of Banner and Hulk per se, but if it ends up like with >>86391487
then it might as well be a mini only, so that it might be forgotten like all the stupid bullshit Marlel is recently doing to their brand.
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>>86391612
>he doesn't want She-Hulk porn
What a cuck
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>>86391142
>I didn't read
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>>86391066
So what made her go berserk here anyway?
Only thing I remember is she looks like a roided up version of the Williams Sisters and Beyonce's failed splice clone
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>>86391637
There is no reason to be optimistic about upcoming Marvel titles. Marvel has not given us any evidence they want to improve from their current creative rut and pandering habits.
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>>86391208
>will she
Not a chance
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>>86390917
>>86390946
>Making She-Hulk be like the Hulk
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING?
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Man I'm worried this'll be Savage She-Hulk and not fun lawyer adventures.

glad we saved shulkie from bendis
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>>86391928
Empowering the women by removing their character in favor of taking over a man's legacy, check your privilege.
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>woman writer
>PTSD
>will get triggered throughout the book

No fucking thanks.
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>>86391901
Yeah but writer is competent and art looks good. I'm going to be slightly hopeful.
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>>86391892
Bendis and Dissembled. That's all you need to know.
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Mariko Tamaki is an interesting choice.
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>>86390917
Wasn't The Hand gonna resurrect Banner over in Uncanny Avengers?
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>>86391217
>some pretentious shit gets recognition from pretentious faggots abloo bloo bloo
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>>86391631
Apparently that's what >>86390953 wants to read.
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>>86391948
>I'm worried this'll be Savage She-Hulk and not fun lawyer adventures.
Read the greentext from the article. This is literally what they're planning.
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>>86392048

yeah i know, that's why i said that. I'm gonna give Tamaki and company benefit of the doubt until the book hits tho.
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>>86391539
See:
>>86391574

That's the look she's going to have in the new book.
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>>86391153
>Jewish decent
dropped
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>>86392027
Yeah. He'll get brought back as Mummy Hulk in November's issue.
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>>86392040
This is the same faggot that'd shill out Omega Men as this generation's Watchmen.
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>>86392092
deal with it soon we'll all be goobacks...
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>>86391208
>scrambling for little cheescake panels
>in a post trauma , grimdark she hulk
>in the current year

dont be a fucking idiot

just because an artist capable of doing it, doenn't mean the artist will do it, especially with the tone this book is heading
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how many series and mini series has shehulk had?

How many of them have been good? One. And was it good or was it just a comedic novelty?

Exactly. She's just not a good character.
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I remember when the "and..and...AND?" page happened people were excited for a ppssoble angry takes no shit Shulk .

But I can't trust Marvel when it comes to female writers. Its like they are all hand picked ones with agendas or styles that will appease the tumblrettes
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>>86391035
So Bendis damages yet another upbeat character and leaves them for another person to deal with. So we got Dazzler, Hawkeye, She-Hulk. Am I missing any?
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>>86391217
>comic book awards
>genuinely meaningful
lmao
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>>86392319

she's had a couple of great runs? Byrne and Slott come to mind.
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>>86392319
>Shulk had just one good series
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>>86392482
>>86392494
>replying to obvious bait
Off yourselves, queers.
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>>86391233
Oh god that Felicia is doing things to me
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>>86392461

If awards and accolades don't matter, then what does matter? How do gauge we quality in the comics community and beyond?
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>>86390917
>>86390946
Wasn't Cho the Hulk Now?

Is it because he's asian? Pretty racist of Marvel's part if you ask me...
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>>86392699
By /co/'s unanimous circlejerking obviously. Snyder's run a shit.
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>>86392807
Cho is The Hulk. He's appearing in "Totally Awesome Hulk."

Jennifer is She-Hulk. She's appearing in "Hulk."
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>>86392933
Also, Bruce is coming back as Mummy-Hulk over in Uncanny Avengers.
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>>86391208
Second panel: if you want the readers to understand the character is doing a kick, show her fucking leg moving. Here it looks like she's assaulting Spider-Man with her butt at first glance.

Art is nice otherwise.
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If they'd try to get her into the MCU with the name "She-Hulk" a certain part of the internet will probably blow up with how problematic and outdated that name is, and it would probably confuse casuals who don't know what she's actually like. Does anyone have a good idea for an alternative name for Jennifer?
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>>86391158
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>>86393297
>Here it looks like she's assaulting Spider-Man with her butt
There's no reason to think she's not doing exactly that. I mean, just look at Spider-man's "dat ass though" expression. Maybe she had to fart super bad to the point that it came out as a concussive blast.
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>>86391219
The black one isn't spider-man
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>>86393480
She's probably just never going to appear in the MCU. If she does, they'll just call her "Jennifer Walters" even when in her hulk form. Remember, Wanda is never once actually called The Scarlet Witch at any point in the movies. Same would probably hold true for Jen.

I mean, She-hulk is a pretty silly name and all, but it's kinda too late to change it now. Even in this book she's still She-Hulk, even if the book itself is called Hulk.
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>>86391153

>Says nothing of her work, just her racial background

/pol/, pls
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>>86393539
Ok, so if she'd ever get like a show or something. What would the name of the show be?
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>>86393522
Yes he is? Right now there are three spider-men:
>Peter Parker (aka The Amazing Spider-man)
>Miles Morales (aka Spider-man)
>Miguel O'Hara (aka Spider-man 2099)
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>>86391295
It would likely trigger the writer to see such things and she'd be off to Twitter and such to harass the artist till they left the industry.
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>>86390979
So we have a female japanese writer.
Nice.
Don't know a shit about her.
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>>86393573
See that's the thing though, she literally can't get a show because of how the rights are tangled up. Universal owns distribution rights for Hulk solos. Presumably that would include She-Hulk solos.

So Marvel can't make a She-hulk series/movie or a Hulk series/movie. They can only use them as supporting characters in teams or other people's movies. That's why Planet Hulk is getting relegated to the B-plot in Thor: Ragnarok.

But given a hypothetical where they were going to make a She-hulk solo series/movie, it'd have to just be called She-hulk. Sure it might piss off some feminists, but they get pissed off at everything anyways.
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>>86393673
Apparently she wrote some highly-acclaimed award winning graphic novel that none of us have ever heard of because it's not a superhero comic.
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>>86391496
Didn't Luke Cage smash already?
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>>86393722
It's been storytimed here a few times, some of us have actually read it.
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>>86390917
>>86390946
>>86390963

>A She-Hulk ongoing that isn't fun.

What's your P-P-P-P-POINT
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>>86393906
Drink 5 hour energy. Drink Drink Drink.
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>>86393864
>anyone on /co/ actually reading comics
That seems highly suspect. Are you sure it wasn't one of those storytimes where the OP storytimes it with no responses follow by a couple hours of posts solely there to bump until eventually he gives up? Because that tends to be the case for most storytimes that exist for anything beyond baiting.
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>>86391487
I liked Penance in Ellisbolts
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>>86390917
>Written by a woman
>not a comedy book even though it's good ol' Jen Walters

Please be good. I don't know whether it's Marvel editorial meddling or simply because they keep hiring females based more on gender rather then talent; but I cannot think of single female writer that Marvel has on their current payroll whose output isn't anything above mediocre or forgettable

And yes that includes G. Willow Wilson
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Glad to see Marvel still doesn't know why people liked She Hulk in the first place.
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>>86393906
See:
>>86390953

Fun is too tumblr for modern audiences.
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>>86394792
>I cannot think of single female writer that Marvel has on their current payroll whose output isn't anything above mediocre or forgettable
The same could be said for male writers that Marvel has on their current payroll. There's Ewing and Conway, that's about it.
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>>86394792
I'm fully expecting it to be about non-issues and non-conflicts with boring art like Hellcat or Squirrel Girl at this point really.
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>>86390946
>she has Hulk in the name, so that means she gets angry and scary, right?
For fuck's sake
Worse thing is that this could work as the start of a long character arc, but 12 issues is all a Jen "ongoing" is gonna get
>>
So Marvel gave Tamaki this and DC gave her Supergirl Origins...
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>>86394876
And they gave her actually talented cousin nothing.
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>>86394843
I really enjoy Pak most of the time. And Spencer is a pretty good comedy writer. Lemire can also be great but he's been coasting on mediocre ever since he started at Marvel
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I'm interested. Mostly because I like grey Hulks.
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>>86393480
How about "Green Meanie?"
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>>86391406

There's been porn parodies, but she was played by Chyna.
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>>86395113
The one who could beat people to death with her clit?
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>>86390946
>>86390963

I liked This One Summer and I love Nico Leon's art, but I'm not sure if turning She-Hulk on her head is the best direction to go with the character. Still, I'm cautiously optimistic about this.
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>>86394899
RIP in pieces
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>>86395113
>>86395127
I jerked off to it multiple times.

And I'm a little ashamed to say once more after news of her death.
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>>86395127

Yeah, though someone else played Jennifer Walters.
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I remember this gal winning an Eisner so we shouldn't get the Ta-nehisi effect where the words are beautiful but don't bond with the images too much

>>86391132
Best Hulk stories actually are the ones that handled him with sophistication, and more often than not sensitivity. Cases in point: Sal Buscema, Peter Allen David, Bruce Jones, Jeff Parker even. DUMB EBIN FUN like Pak is entertaining, but it becomes boring after a couple of arcs.
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>>86391006
>I'm already so angry about the cover, I don't even need to read the blurb!
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>>86395216
Isn't she dead?
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>>86391053

The thing is, this sounds like a complete 180 in tone. I know she had a near-death experience, but that was bullshit in the first place so it doesn't really fell good to have a character suffer radical long-term changes as a result of it. It's like someone wrote, I dunno, the Vulture brutally murdering Aunt May and then Spider-Man turns into a wall-crawling Punisher who never jokes; character development isn't development if the character turns into something unrecognizable.

Hopefully the actual comic will be a more nuanced than just "Bruce Banner 's struggle with a vagina".
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>>86395373

There's absolutely no reason they can't just hit reset after giving this a go like every other different comic run ever.
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>>86391487
These few pages were perfect.
Was this Waid?
And I'm glad that Robinson brought back Speedball's cat in the best possible way
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>>86391125
>The writer is some fatty Canadian lesbian who hasn't done anything noteworthy.

Leave this thread and don't come back until you've educated yourself, you fucking toad.
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>>86395373
>Spider-Man turns into a wall-crawling Punisher who never jokes
Fuck you, Spider-Man Noir is based.
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>>86391217
>>86395437
>tumblr gets triggered
Another day in /co/.
>>
I fully expected a Savage She-Hulk series when I first saw >>86391574. The title is a bit unexpected and I thought it would have a typical middle of the road writer instead of a newcomer to Marvel, but for the most part this was telegraphed from miles away.
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I really hope this is just "serious lawyer Jen" and not making her as conflicted and tormented a character as Bruce was plus added gender politics. Because that would be a mistake
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>>86395373
>Autism the post
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>>86393703
Apparently even brigitte nielson has some parts of the movie rights of she-hulk.
Because she was supposed to play the role in the 80s in a movie that got cancelled.
And even after all these years and her being old now, she still wants to do that role
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>>86395437
>pretentious indieshit about MUH NORMAL PEOPLE DOING NOTHING WORTH READING ABOUT AND TALKIN BOUT MUH FEELS
No thanks. If I wanted help taking a nap I'd just put on a Friends rerun.
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>>86393486
>Maybe she had to fart super bad

Well what do you know. Leave it long enough and eventually anything will become funny again.
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>>86395493
You and everyone else
My doubt was about the possibility that she could do something before the end of CWII after learning what's happening around her, maybe even something that completely disproves a prophecy by Ulysses or something. But it seems that we've already seen most of Shulkie's involvement in that mess and her development will only start again in the new book.
Actually, although the Hellcat book is a consistent 5.5/10 with shit art, Leth's knowledge of lore and how gutted she's shown Patsy to be, I'm half tempted to want that book as the first place where nuJen shows up
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>>86395536

Why?
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>>86395473
>I'm ignorant and proud of it
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>>86395746
Yeah, I never went to Tumblr College.
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>>86391066
Probably at least one spastic hulk rampage will happen, yes.

>>86391069
You know that by the end of this series she'll be more at peace and progressing back to that again. Its okay to have dark periods sometimes to contrast with the light as long as it isn't sticking around forever or pointlessly dark. I've enjoyed the one emotion focused book from the author I've seen before so it might be okay.
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>>86391928
Because Amadeus is being the She-Hulk book. It is a temporary inversion of the usual themes.
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>>86390917
>Mariko Tamaki
Reminder that this is a fat dyke who's at least partly responsible for the fat acceptance movement and is probably going to make Jen a rug muncher as well.

Also that set up/status quo sounds fucking awful. It's amazing how, to get hired to write or draw for the big two at this point all you need is some garbage indie book that won an award more because "it's important" than its actual quality and be part of the Cool Kids Social Justice Club. Sort of like how the likes of Kate Leth and Erica Henderson keep getting work despite nothing they do selling worth shit.
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I'm just wishing for two things
>Daredevil and Shulkie court battle
>Spidey runs into legal trouble with his company and needs help, and it devolves into evil conspiracy shits and giggles
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>>86395746
You can't deny that "Fat acceptance" is a pretty dumb meme, at least.
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>>86395616
Old memes are best memes.
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Tamaki sucks, she's just one of the many shitty Rain telgemeier wannabes.
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>>86397181
>is probably going to make Jen a rug muncher as well.
As long as she rapes Carol hard with a Hulk fist then I'll be OK with it.

The whole fat acceptance movement is weird though. Since it's She-Hulk, how about a buff women acceptance movement in the book? Oh, and also #Hulklivesmatter too.
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>>86395265

He's telling the truth.

They took out what made She-Hulk who she is and is giving her Bruce Banner's personality and conflict, essentially making Jeniffer a Hulk with titties.
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>>86397181
....You don't actually read comics, do you?
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>>86395113
>There's been porn parodies
:)
>but she was played by Chyna
:(
>>
>>86395572

This post is so terrible.
>>
PLEASE let it be good. The last she-hulk solo was such ugly,boring garbage. I just want my girl to have a good ongoing again.
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>>86395431
It was Slott, back when he had talent.
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>>86396280
>You know that by the end of this series she'll be more at peace and progressing back to that again. Its okay to have dark periods sometimes to contrast with the light as long as it isn't sticking around forever or pointlessly dark.

You say that, but look at what happened with Daredevil. Or Speedball. Or the Teen Titans.
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Wish Stuart Immonen was on art :/
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>inb4 it sells so well that the grim thing sticks and we end up getting a dark Shulkie movie/show
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>>86399746
>ugly
Please Javier Pulido is, one of Marvel's best artists right now.

> m-muh faces
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>>86401717

God, that fucking text.

Now I remember why I didn't read this title. It wasn't the faces and it wasn't the subject matter and it wasn't even the quality of the writing, so to speak, it was that they writer had obviously forgotten comics are a visual medium and benefit from visual storytelling.
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>>86401901
>God, that fucking text.

That'sTheJoke

He's a lawyer using rambling jargon to get She-Hulk out of his office.

There's a reason some of it is too small to read, your eyes are just supposed to gloss overt much in the way Jennifer probably did just hearing it
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>>86401717
That's horrible though and not just because of the faces.
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>>86401717
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>>86401717
Nice paneling.

Too bad the art is still hideous garbage.
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>>86391217
>>86393722

>Jesus Christ this board. This One Summer gets genuinely meaningful awards and recognition from the comics community and the literary community but you only recognize the mediocre superhero artists.

It was posted here. It was the standard zero stakes slice of life tripe. Like Ghost World or Blankets, but with less going on.

>>86392699
You read the damm thing. There are awards that are practically anti recommendations at this point.

>>86393673
From her work, moot is more japanese than her.

>>86394780
Have more faith in your fellow anons. It went the distance. It was just poorly regarded.

>>86395219
I'm going to predict a failure mode in that Jen spends all her time moping, and jack shit happens, other than, say getting Jen an eating disorder..

I would love to be proven wrong though.

>>86397543
Bisexual Jen would be at least SOMETING. Hell, a full on romance comic is something.
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>>86402078
What else don't you like about it?
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>>86390917
So this going to along side Totally Awesome Hulk?
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>>86391223
If She-Hulk's solo outsells Captain Marvel by a lot, then the best you could get is She-Hulk laying the smack down on Captain Marvel for what happened to Bruce. Maybe something with Captain Marvel being trapped in a confined space with no chance of absorbing any energy. Carol looks worried as she takes more that Shulkie is more muscular than usual. She-Hulk cracks her knuckles. Its Carol's turn for a visit to the hospital.

As far as the movies, no way. Captain Marvel is getting her movie.
>>
I might read it if they put She-Hulk back into blue jeans again. I really like that look.
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>>86403224
>Maybe something with Captain Marvel being trapped in a confined space with no chance of absorbing any energy. Carol looks worried as she takes more that Shulkie is more muscular than usual. She-Hulk cracks her knuckles. Its Carol's turn for a visit to the hospital.

I'm sorry Anon, but that is definitely not going to happen. That sounds downright psychopathic.
>>
>>86391208
Wait, I thought Black Cat was just a human in a costume. She has superstrength?
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>>86403553

She was originally just a cat burglar with poorly-defined luck powers, but somewhere down the line she got artificial superpowers like strength and agility. I think it was the Kingpin that did it.
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>>86390917
>Mariko Tamaki
This is fucking weird. Hoping this turns out pretty good since I can't recall Tamaki doing any sort of monthly work, let alone fuggin supers.
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>>86390946
>>86390963
>All this because she took a missile to the boob
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>>86391220
So she mercilessly punches his head through the fucking ground and he responds by punching her fucking hair?

Smells like sexist bullshit.
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>>86403671
when she first appeared she had bad luck powers
when she started dating Spider-Man it got retconned into her just being really good at using sleight of hand to set up simple traps with her surroundings
Peter wouldn't shut up about how she was gonna get herself killed, so she went out and begged everyone she could to give her powers, but since she was a felon all the heroes refused.
She ended up getting actual bad luck powers from Kingpin
those powers started to try to kill Spider-Man though (by Kingpin's design), and they'd had a big messy fight, so Peter went to Dr Strange without talking to her about it and got him to remove all the bad luck wrapped around him. Since it was still connected to her, it made her powers freak out (during a fight with Sabretooth across town), but her metamorphic field or whatever managed to stabilize the fluctuating power into basic cat totem stuff. enhanced speed, strength, and acrobatic ability.


much much later, after Peter had married MJ, Peter in a moment of weakness got a guy to remove his powers, but it was a trap, and Blak Cat helped him get to the machine that did it to reverse the process. But doing so caused her to lose those powers.

So she just went out to Tinkerer and bought some cybernetic upgrades.

way way later, post OMD, she went to some schmuck or another I forget who, who also got her bad luck powers back.

the cybernetics haven't been mentioned in decades, other than her using the claws in fights, but theoretically she still has all of them
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>>86391385
what are you talking about? old shulkie is back!
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>>86405242
it's just foreplay
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>>86403278
agreed. it's my favorite look for her other than lawyer suit. looks way better than the leotard on its own
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>>86395373
>this sounds like a complete 180 in tone
it's not a new idea at all. It's bee well established that while Hulk is what he is because Bruce has major repressed anger, Jen is more emotionally balanced apart from her low self esteem. however if something REALLY pisses jen off, she starts to resemble her cousin more. It would be much weirder if she just went through a normal grieving process that didn't effect her powers.
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>>86397860
oh I'll show you Hulk with titties
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>>86406018
did they use sylvester stallone's face as a reference for that cover?
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>>86395373
>the Vulture brutally murdering Aunt May and then Spider-Man turns into a wall-crawling Punisher who never jokes

that happens on a semi-regular basis. someone goes too far and Spider-Man goes from 50% nerd rage 50% guilt to 200% nerd rage.
>>
>>86406322
Hell the most recent instance was just the other week in Deadpool & Spider-Man
>>
>>86405242

Have you seriously never seen the "land a crushing blow right beside the villain's head to intimidate them into surrendering" move before?

Is this your first time reading a comic? Is this the first time you've seen any sort of pulp violence?
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>>86406322

Yeah, but usually not for long. And it's usually crap.
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>>86391574
Her best look yet.
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>>86405026
>and fisted by Thanos
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>>86390917
>>86390946
>>86390963
I feel like I'm just pretty thirsty for some She_Hulk so I'm willing to forgive or ignore a heap of bullshit that usually seems like warning flags just to get a sip.

Let's see where this goes.
>>
>>86390963
>>“I love to draw normal life,” says Leon. “I am very excited to be able to draw the day-to-day life of a superhero who needs not to be a superhero all the time
Sounds like more Hellcat slice of life shit.
>>
>>86390917
So they're keepin the grey scarred look huh...

I keep bitching that marvel's female comics are too archie like, and goofy, but aside from that time she was bounty hunting with super-skrulls daughter that's what her books were always about, don't know how I feel about this.
>>
>>86407614

Hellcat isn't really slice of life.

To be honest, I don't really know WHAT Hellcat is, but I don't think it qualifies as slice of life.
>>
>>86403224
>Maybe something with Captain Marvel being trapped in a confined space with no chance of absorbing any energy.

Knowing how these fights usually go, odds are on Carol charging off of the ambient gamma radiation all Hulk-types give off, especially when angry. If done WELL, tho', it'll just be enough to keep Carol from getting decapitated, with Jen saying something like "Oh, good...you've got just enough of a charge so I don't have to pull my punches" or something.
>>
>>86391249
Because being the damn Hulk has always been an uplifting and meaningful honor for Bruce, huh?
What better point in time for a dark time in your life than right after getting bombed into a coma, having your cousin shot like a dog, his killer lauded for it and the hero world fallen into civil war?
Being Hulk has never been much about fame and a lot about anger, violence, guilt, and isolation. Being She-Hulk has always tended towards angry lawyering, violent sex, fun and breaking the 4th wall.

If they declare this to be a Hulk book, then explain the above, I don't think they want her to take Bruce's place, but to fill his type of arc as Marvel has a ton of cute, funny books and Cho will be about walking the fine line in a mostly fun way.
>>
>>86407673
it's situational comedy
>>
>>86409021
What this guy said. I've been a Shulkie fan since the Byrne book, and I kinda want to see her go through a Planet Hulk/"Green Scar" phase now, so long as it's an arc and not her new status quo.
>>
>>86409112
I want her to end this with Bruce coming back somehow, embracing him and saying she couldn't have done his job a day longer while winking at the viewer.
>>
>>86392933
>Mummy-Hulk
Just how many flavors of Hulk were there in Marvel's history?
>>
>>86410770
>grey hulk
>green hulk
>mr fixit
>maestro
>breaker of worlds
>savage shulk
>sensational shulk
>grey shulk
>red hulk
>red shulk
>leader
>red leader
>chulk
>red venom ghost hulk

off the top of my head, and I know I'm missing a bunch
>>
>>86410770
Lesse...Bruce had grey, green, Professor, Green Scar, and Doc Green. Jen had regular, rage-grey, "Disassembled" rage-green, and now her Green Scar phase. Rick had Teen Hulk in the 80s, not sure if A-Bomb counts here or not. Ross had Rulk, Betty had She-Rulk (agan, not sure if Gorgon counts here or not). There was that red-headed daughter of Hulk, Bruce's son, and now Amadeus Chulk.

If we count Jen's new phase, that gives us 15. I miss anyone, folks?
>>
>>86410805
Scratch it, this guy got a few I missed. Good show.
>>
>>86390917
But will she be barefoot?
>>
>>86410805
>A-Bomb
>Skaar
>Banner's dad (can't remember the name)
>all the other hulk variations inside Banner's mind (like the evil hulk and the monster hulk)
>Hulk from fear itself

And ofc the edgy Kluh
>>
I love She-Hulk. I am already dreading this.
>>
so who wants to bet that this book crashes hard?
>>
>>86411093
Not crashing hard, but probably goes under the radar after the first arc with slowly declining sales
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>>86411996
Like every other She-Hulk series, you mean?
>>
>>86412028
Actually, scratch that: like very other comic book series ever, I mean.
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>>86390917
>Find Word
>Frank Cho

Into the garbage it goes
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>>86403224
Why would she attack Carol? Clint killed him, Carol did everything she could to save his life.
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>>86395265
>I'm ignoring Wolverine, Thor, Iron Man, Hawkeye!
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>>86391206
>Anything is better than Soule, but this looks terrible.

There is no nadir to Marvel's creative abyss.

This is another publicity stunt that will sell 60,000 at launch & then deflate down to 20,000 in 8 months. Reboot when?
>>
>>86397200
>>Daredevil and Shulkie court battle
Soule tried that. It was garbage.
>>
>>86391259
Why the fuck is a she-hulk book being written to be closer to a regular Hulk book?
Last time we had Savage She-Hulk it was Bendis fuckery and it sucked.
>>
>>86390953
new-fag detected
>>
>>86401517
>Netflix is going to have a Shulkie series

You just -know- it's going to be grim dark.
>>
>>86390953
this is a problem for most female superheroes, but she hulk should always be fun
>>
I'm just here to see if we'll get more shulkie cheesecake.
>>
>>86412452

You're obviously hovering around the cutoff for being considered "literate" so I'll make this as short and simple as I can.

Jen is not 'the' Hulk now. Jen will still be called She-Hulk. No one said or thinks that 'She-Hulk' is sexist. Her series will be called Hulk because it will feel more like a Hulk comic than a She-Hulk comic.
>>
>>86391574

I'm STILL pissed that the following page wasn't Carol leaving the earths orbit.
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>>86391574

The next page should have been her putting Carol through the floor.
>>
>>86413657
>>86413948
So you agree on the punching, but not the direction.
>>
>>86413102
Probably nothing official, but the new look is fetish-y enough to encourage good artist to do more of that
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>>86390917
Fetish fuel?
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>>86410826
>I miss anyone, folks?

There's technically the Devil Hulk who is yellow and who Bruce has repressed, but he still shows up from time to time.

>>86417159
I want someone to lick her scars. Or maybe her scars grow brighter green when she's getting aroused (or angry or both). Cheesecake shit like that please, pervert artists.
>>
>>86412220
Cause Carol organized the whole operation which was dumb from the start and still believes the day was saved by Hawkeye's premature murder of Bruce. I bet we also find out that She-Hulk was talking about Ulysses when she told Carol: don't let "him" decide our future.
>>
>>86409072
It's mediocre shite is what it is.
>>
>>86412220
The whole thing is Carol's fault.
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>>86410805
Wasn't there also a Captain Universe Hulk at one point.
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>>86419248
Get help, Tony.
>>
So is she trans now?
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>>86412951
I mean, this still kinda is Bendis fuckery, even if he's not the one writing it since this is all spinning out of CWII.
>>
>>86409002
>Carol absorbs off enough of Jen's gamma radiation so Jen won't have to hold back. Carol lays some good hits on her, knocking Jen around a bit, but gets weaker as the energy boost dissipates. Carol throughs an earth punch at Jen's jaw, but Jen looks more losses than hurt. Carol punches her in the stomach, but Jen barely clinched. Carol throws another punch, but Shulkie catches it. She grabs Carol by the neck with her other hand and runs her through several walls and just beats her unconscious.
>>
>>86415220
We can have both, Anon.

Jen could just be warming up when she ckokeslams "Earth's Mightiest Hero through the floor.

If Carol is still conscious in this little warm up session, then Jen really lets loose and knocks her into orbit
>>
>>86410805
2099
>>
>>86420073
>>86420208
Jen's on Carol's side, though.
>>
>>86420381
Sorry, I have a fetish.
>>
I like it when Jen has muscles.
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