Box Office: 'Suicide Squad' Is Now Leggier Than 'Captain

Huh that's neat. I saw this when it came out, but I've been absent for awhile. I figured /tv/ would've liked to enjoy its success since it btfo'd the """critics""". Didn't care much for it myself, but it had some elements I enjoyed.

But it didn't cover 800 millions they put in marketing.

>>86264114
Also will smith salary were another 800 gorillions

>>86264091
I think you're getting too wrapped up in pointless drama. It was an ok movie, best of the DCEU so far but that's not saying much. I just think with each consecutive "ok" movie they make, it lowers peoples desire to see the next one. I saw Suicide Squad it's 2nd week in theaters. I won't be paying to see it's sequel.

I don't understand why anyone would want to go and see this movie

>>86264114
Of course as we all know they spent millons of dollars hiring an advertising firm to come up with the idea of having jared leto act like a retard for clickbait it totaly wasn't something some guy working in props came up with.

And dont forget dc apparently pays more for advertising space then other companys.

>>86264124
>best of the DCEU

Absolute bullshit.

>>86264091
The movie costed 700 million and 99% of the money goes to the cinemas, they spended a billion on marketing

>>86264124
BvS was better, and

>with each consecutive "ok" movie they make, it lowers peoples desire to see the next one

wtf? How does that make sense when more people went to see BvS than MoS? And more people went to see SS than MoS?

>>86264124
I agree the movie was not very good but it has still been hilarious seeing the people scrambeling to come up with bullshit to try and say it floped.

I hope the suicide squad storytime arrives soon

>>86264148
>99% of the money goes to the cinemas
Cinemas don't really make money off of tickets.

>>86264156
It's even funnier to have people justify why the movie didn't suck even though every critic WB tried to bribe chose to spill the beans about the movie instead of taking the money. Hurts your street cred

>>86264146
So... it's billion in marketing?

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>>86264091

>mfw /co/ said this would flop
>mfw it was revealed it wouldn't open in China /co/ said it would do worse than X-Men

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>>86264091
this just keeps getting better

>>86264190
>even though every critic WB tried to bribe

This is why people don't take you seriously

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>>86264211

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>>86264227
>disney
>two of the biggest hits of the year
>three of the biggest bombs

>warner
>five of the biggest hits
>one of the biggest bombs

hmmm

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>>86264091

>>86264148
>billion

more like gorillion

>>86264227

I don't see how that has anything to do with what I said. Do you think I'm triggered that other films did better or something?

>>86264242

At least link to the article, dude.

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>>86264091
>Where are your meme maths now?
>Where are your "lmao no legs big drop"?
>You failed to predict the opening. You also failed to predict the legs. Now what?


MY BOX OFFICE PREDICTIONS ARE ALL MESSED UP

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>>86264258
i was confirming your statement

>>86264091

There was a fag just a few days ago saying that "Suicide Squad is front loaded like all DC films"

>>86264269

Ah. I've only seen people use that to b8 about Civil War doing better. My bad man

>>86264242
Of the summer. . .

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>we live in a universe where SS is doing great while BvS underperformed

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>>86264273
"front loaded" is how they try to get out of the fact DC movies have massive openings.

>>86264091
No surprise there. It's the better film.

>>86264237
For lack of trying

>>86264285
Well SS had batman and the joker in it unlike BvS

>>86264154
More people saw BvS than MoS because it was basically a Batman movie that tied into MoS. More people saw SS because it genuinely seemed like they had something great. People are going to start realizing that these movies aren't that good and they're going to lose interest. But maybe I'm giving people too much credit.

>>86264291

Oh yeah then he talked about the drop. Then when he was told Civil War had a 59.3% drop he decided that 60% was the magical failure figure

>>86264285
That's because BvS is abysmal and SS is only bad.

>>86264091
But Civil War has made more money, so who cares?

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>>86264285
snyder is objectively bad at directing plots and goyer is a very, very bad writer.

>>86264091
It's still a shit movie lol

>>86264110
>I figured /tv/ would've liked to enjoy its success since it btfo'd the """critics""".
When someone already hates a movie coming out and critics bash it they just cite the critic anytime someone says they even mildly enjoyed something.

>>86264320

> But maybe I'm giving people too much credit.

You sure as fuck are buddy. revenge of the Sith made 848mil in 2005 and all the hobbit movies just scrapped under a billion each

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>>86264091
N...no....

This can't be happening....

>>86264324
I was there. That was some good shit.

I was the one that pointed out Civil War's drop

I'll never understand why people wanted to hate this movie into oblivion. Specially people here at /co/.

There are some guys called Midnight's Edge that do all these videos about superhero movies and shit. They're generally okay but they're obviously huge Marvelfags.

After Suicide Squad came out and was a success, they made a video talking about how it used mind tricks to make people THINK they liked it. It was kind of pathetic.

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>>86264091
That's good to hear, this movie deserved those nice earnings after the disaster that was BvS.

And yeah. while the movie has its flaws (then again, so do most movies of the MCU, you can't deny that) at least it actually delivered in what people that wanted to see it expected.

And this is from someone who loves both Marvel and DC, so I know what I'm saying in this case.

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>>86264091
Reminder that this movie had critics like AVCLUB falling to their knees begging everyone to not see this movie pounding out essays on their keyboards about how triggered they were at Margot Robbie wearing spangled short shorts while unconditionally sucking CW's dick.

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>>86264407
It's got a blue logo instead of a red one.

There's a bunch of people here on /co/ that are only here for MCU movies, or factoids about Marvel to show off to their MCU-viewing friends.

>>86264320
They were good movies, SS was just as fun as any marvel movie and a lot of people genuinely like BvS and MoS. Don't think your taste is the one above all.

>>86264365
IT'S
NOT
FAIR!

>>86264425

>After Suicide Squad came out and was a success, they made a video talking about how it used mind tricks to make people THINK they liked it.

You're fucking me. This is some tele-evangelist type of shit.

http://www.avclub.com/article/weekend-box-office-finally-something-other-suicide-241808

>Weekend Box Office: Finally, something other than Suicide Squad

>Our weeks-long national nightmare of watching worthier movies underperform as Americans gave away their hard-earned dollars on the Moloch-esque sacrificial altar of the Suicide Squad hype machine is over. The feature-length DC Comics trailer fell to No. 2 with $12.1 million this weekend, beaten by a well-received R-rated genre film made for a fraction of Suicide Squad’s budget: Don’t Breathe, which took $26.1 million to land at the top of the box office.

>>86264328
>But Civil War has made more money

If you apply /tv/'s meme math Civil War made fuck all

Budget + marketing = 375 (It was almost certainly more expensive)
Domestic take 408 / 2 = 204
Foreign take 744 - 70% = 223
204 + 223 = 427
427 - 375 = 52 mil

Fox kicked the shit out of everyone this year with Deadpool

>>86264356
Is that the NaNa/Paradise Kiss artist?

>>86264358
Tru~!!!!!

>>86264148
Best live action since Nolan, at least. They had two whiffs and now a solid hit. Didn't knock it out of the park, but at least SOMEONE is on base. They haven't struck out YET.

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>>86264459
http://www.avclub.com/article/weekend-box-office-suicide-hotline-bling-240763
>The film did plummet 40 percent from Friday night—when all the biggest superhero fans presumably saw it, took selfies in front of the cardboard cutout in the lobby, and raved to the guy in the polo shirt holding the iPad how great it was afterwards—to Saturday, and then saw another 20 percent drop from Saturday to Sunday. So maybe critics’ vitriol will be proven right in the end.

>>86264457
Nope. It was legit.

It was something like "they used music so that you'd feel good about what you were watching, while critics are immune to mind tricks and saw through their scheme."

>>86264467
IDK, got it off Pixiv

>>86264496
>DChads

do you have the one about "furiously typing out essays about Margot Robbie's hot pants?"

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>>86264497
>while critics are immune to mind tricks and saw through their scheme."

Has the entire world lost it's mind?

>>86264503
its in the first paragraph of the same link. around there

DC/Warner Bros should just embrace the critics and general population hate and harness it for their future movies. Just be as offensive they can with their material. Own that shit, like Harley said.

What can they do that'll drive people crazy? Have a torrid sex scene in The Flash where Barry anally fuck Iris while screaming he owns her black ass? Could that work? Splash that shit in all the trailers and sell the movie as this really hot and controversial teenager + super-hero movie full of forbidden passion and lust about a white pasty girl fucking his black hot sister.

http://screenhype.com/posts/Karen-Fukuhara-Wants-To-Explore-Katana-s-Backstory-In-Suicide-Squad-Sequel

>Karen Fukuhara Wants To Explore Katana's Backstory In Suicide Squad Sequel


>Suicide Squad was met with divisiveness from critics when it initially released, but that didn't seem to keep the film from netting over $700 million at the worldwide box office. With numbers like those, you can bet a sequel is at least being considered, and if it does happen Katana actress Karen Fukuhara is up for it.

>The actress shared what she would like to see further explored in a potential sequel during the Suicide Squad panel at Rose City Comic Con (via 411 Mania).

>“I would love that,” she said about the possibility of reprising the role. “For the first movie I think we did a really good job of showing snippets of each character’s past and history, but it was just a glimpse. And for the sequel I’d like to show a lot more about her relationship with Soultaker, her sword, and her relationship with her husband and where she came from.”

>Fukuhara was well received in the Katana role, but her screen time was rather limited. It's understandable when you have so many characters to cover within the timeframe of one film. She impressed in the time she did have, though, and hopefully, the producers and David Ayer will further explore the soultaker aspect of her character. Granted, that is if Ayer decides to return for the sequel.

>Suicide Squad was produced on a budget of $175 million (not counting marketing) and has made over $307 million domestically.

i do find it funny that even in positive articles, they have to mention the "not counting marketing" thing. I have NEVER seen that done for any other movie.

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>>86264496
>when all the biggest superhero fans presumably saw it, took selfies in front of the cardboard cutout in the lobby, and raved to the guy in the polo shirt holding the iPad how great it was afterwards

We've been called alot of things: DCucks, Battered wives, but Chads? Fucking polo shirt sporting Chads?

>>86264466
Well yeah, Deadpool made loads but I think CW ended up making just under $400 million for Disney >>86264227 plus all the toys and stuff. Nobody is really buying toys for BvS and SS and I don't think Fox has the merchandising rights for Deadpool and the X-Men, so it's actually Disney making the money there.

>>86264091
Yes, because Captain America made 35% more on its opening weekend than Suicide Squad, and finished about $90m higher than Suicide Squad will domestically (and about $400m higher worldwide).

Neither movie has particularly strong legs because of that opening weekend problem - the higher it is, the harder it becomes for a movie to be considered "leggy".

>The fact remains that Suicide Squad still ended up with a relatively healthy multiplier (for a fan-friendly franchise installment in 2016) despite taking a brutal 66% second-weekend plunge.

>Suicide Squad fell 67.4% in its second weekend of release. That is the 149th-biggest second-weekend drop of all time and the sixth-biggest plunge for a $100 million+ opener. The others, by the by, are the last Harry Potter movie, Twilight 2, 4, and 5, and Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice.

Did you even read the rest of the article? He's not praising it, he's calling it out as a rare example of a movie which didn't flop outright despite a huge second week dropoff. He even goes so far as to point out that they included previews from Wednesday and Thursday in their opening weekend total to artificially inflate it so they could claim a record weekend, when in fact they just had an extra couple of days of release and didn't report them properly. Take that out and it would, ironically, be a much leggier movie. But that's not what WB care about. They care about records because they sound impressive and help drive sales before word of mouth can spread.

tl;dr you really should try learning to math instead of pretending it's all a memespiracy against your precious garbage, because this guy is laughing at you, OP

>>86264121
It would be surprising if he's not getting gross points as well, but his basic salary will have been included in the production budget.

>>86264285
The sales have been largly proportional.
BvS was a lot better then man of steel and made more.
Suicide squad was a lot better then bvs and made more.

If this pattern continues they will make an absurd amount of money when they put out a film that is auctualy good.

>>86264227
Whait, what is with Zootopia?

>>86264527

Imagine a Flash movie where the whole movie is 60% sex and 40% action, with everything focusing on the fact that Barry is white, Iris is black, they're brother and sister, and they shouldn't be fucking for all the reasons stated, they know this, everybody know this, but by God, man! They're going to do it and do it a lot! It would be like BLUE IS THE WARMEST COLOR, but with the Speed Force.

I'd watch it.

>>86264146
For what, a two year ad campaign on a two hundred million dollar project? Yeah, they'll have paid an agency a few million for that.

Are you just butthurt about them paying over $10m in the two weeks prior to release just for domestic tv spots? Because that's a thing that happened. They paid more those weeks because those were the weeks they needed to be more prominent than anything else. That's how advertising works, anon. You show people what you want them to buy from you. It's not even up for debate, it's a fact - this is something that all studios do ahead of release. Go ahead, check last week's big spender - it's all right up there if you look for it.

You can't even pluralize "companies" properly. Do you really think you know how advertising works? Because it's not what the guy in props came up with. First off - he's not in props. He's a private contractor who has his own site, like pretty much all crew, and he's not getting paid to come up with ad campaigns. You want someone to come up with an ad campaign, you call an agency. You pay agency rates. Start with working out what that's going to cost. Remember, they're not going to give you one guy for an hour and come up with two years' worth of campaign.

http://adage.com/article/agency-news/survey-finds-digital-agency-execs-bill-clients-creatives/236527/

>A senior digital executive at a New York-based shop bills clients an average of around $350 an hour. Senior creatives on the traditional side of Madison Avenue can bill nearly twice as much.

>>86264576

>Nobody is really buying toys for BvS and SS

Dude, people are going crazy about SS merchandising.

>>86264576
>Nobody is really buying toys for BvS and SS

SS sold loads of merch with the hot topic crowd

>>86264497

>they used music so that you'd feel good about what you were watching

That's a legit thing though. Guardians, Deadpool and X-Men all did it too.

>>86264320
Yeah thats pretty much it.

Hover each film has been better then the last so i can see people still turning out for wonder women (and even if thats worse then squad they will probably still give league a chance)
If neither league or wondy are good the dceu is probably dead with the next film.

>ITT: The hot topic crowd is proud of how much money their shit movie made

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>>86264576
The toys are doing alright. The big thing with Squad (and honestly BvS) is that they're driving tons of other merch sales, like high-end collectibles, clothing, etc.

Marvel sees a lot of merch sales as well, but they market their characters WAY more than DC does; the toy sales are actually a big deal for DC.

>>86264358
Its not shit its just kind of bad.

>>86264614

He's making it sound like a Jedi mind trick

>>86264618
Hot Topic also sells MCU, & MLP graphic tees. And don't forget Big Bang Theory, because that show is totally grunge, right? Hot Topic is a Spencers store without the gag paraphernalia

>>86264626
>>86264576

It's like this. Remember when Phantom Menace came out and every fag in the theater was waving around lightsabers. George made 10X mnore moeny on those fucking sabers than he did movie tickets.

/co/ and /tv/ need to stop caring about the Box office for cape films because it's all about how much merch you sell. Unless something is legitimately a massive flop and not a "flop" like Suicide Squad

>shitty movie takes fucking forever to become almost as profitable as a third film from another franchise
MARVELFAGS BTFO
HOW WILL /tv/ RECOVER?

>>86264666
don't listen to the devil

he lies with every breath

>>86264599
Yes every film does that suicide squad paid for the trailer and advertising and whatnot but no more then any other company for a similarly sized campaign.

But no nobody was paid for that leto damaged shit.

>>86264666
It still didn't flop despite hearsay that it would. Anything else you say is just changing goalposts, beelzedud.

>>86264124
>with each consecutive "ok" movie they make, it lowers peoples' desire to see the next one
Explain the success of the MCU then.

Can we stop with this meme that SS needs a bajilion dollaru to break even?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhughes/2016/08/12/suicide-squad-dominates-despite-medias-gloom-and-doom/#6972501d6f4e

>So, all of the box office numbers so far look great. How does this stack up against the film’s costs? Well, first of all I can tell you that these $800 million “break-even point”claims floating around are false.

>The film needs to do about $600 million in global ticket sales to cover the shooting budget (including reshoots) plus marketing costs, since the studio will only get about half of the box office receipts to cover the combined costs that total roughly $300 million.

>Claims in the press of marketing exceeding $150-200 million are gross exaggerations, as are rumors of costly reshoots that pushed the filming budget closer toward the $200 million range.

1/2.

>>86264425
midnights edge have always been faggots though, but that's definitely a new low

http://www.pajiba.com/think_pieces/no-suicide-squad-doesnt-need-to-make-800-million-to-break-even-.php

>I reached out to Edward Jay Epstein, the author of The Hollywood Economist and The Big Picture, to get his read on the Suicide Squad $800m figure. His response: “It’s too high.”

>“If film grosses $500 million [domestic], the distributor gets $275 million minus advertising and other distribution,” Epstein said via email. “[Those costs are] about $75 million. So it has at least $200 million foreign plus a back end (which will be huge). Ergo, it will be very profitable.”

>Epstein used $500 million domestic as a nice round number. Studios get a little more than half the domestic box office grosses after theaters snag their percentage. Subtract another $75 million for marketing and distribution. Whatever’s left over, plus the foreign grosses, equals studio profit.

>If Suicide Squad finishes with $300 million in US box office, the studio gets roughly $165 million. Again, the budget is $175 million. So WB is $10 million in the hole right there. Figure another $125 million for marketing and distribution (I upped Epstein’s estimate just to be safe). Damn, they’re $135 million short.

>Remember, though, there’s still foreign grosses to consider. As of Monday evening, the film already earned $133 million overseas. Warner Bros. just drew even. Every foreign dollar the film earns from here on out goes directly into studio coffers. Television rights and international/domestic video sales easily could add another $100-$150 million to the bottom line.

2/2

>>86264720

Easy. For the most part MCU movies start out as "feel-good" films with sympathetic or likeable characters. Once audiences are engaged with the films and the characters from that, they start upping the stakes to capitalise on their emotional investment. It's a pretty shrewd formula. Marvel has basically built their films in such a way as to draw Joe Public into caring as much about the characters as the die-hard fans already did. DC usually just kinda trot out their characters and expect the public to give a shit, without trying hard enough to actually engage the audience. That worked back in the 90s, sure (Batman, X-Men), but not so much these days. Suicide Squad is the first film where they've really pushed for the audience to engage with the characters, either through using fan-favourites like Harley (ala Deadpool) or going for sympathetic characters like Deadshot or Diablo (as with Iron Man and Starlord), as well as going for a more humourous approach.

>>86264091
Why should I care? Since when did /co/ give a shit about box office results?

Has /tv/ fully taken over now?

>>86264897

/co/ gives a shit when it proves their tastes are superior. Both camps are guilty of this.

>>86264091

That's surprising, since it saw it last week and it was hot garbage.

I don't get it. Did the few who liked this constantly rush back to see it? It was shot horribly.

>>86264744
"If Suicide Squad finishes with $300 million in US box office, the studio gets roughly $165 million. Again, the budget is $175 million. So WB is $10 million in the hole right there. Figure another $125 million for marketing and distribution (I upped Epstein’s estimate just to be safe). Damn, they’re $135 million short. "

>I ask expert to give his view
>He does
>change his numbers because I don't like this movie

>>86264918
>It was shot horribly.
no it wasnt?

>>86264946
Take a look at when Joker's helicopter crashes. moves so rapidly and cuts to a slow motion falling Harley for a few second and then goes back to fast speed. It happens in the span of 5 seconds and it's confusing.
Or how the final fight has so many wide shots of everyone with a lot of empty space around them, showing how hollow the final fight is.

>>86264946

I liek how the fans have goen from saying they liked it but admitting the editing was awful and the thrid act was a mess, but now they're denying even that. It's exactly what the BvS and Gotham fans did too.

Just keep Big Brothering yourself, fanbase. Maybe if you all change your stories and pretend the world is out to get you, the movie will magically become better.

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I don't get it, does the money it made mean it is now a good movie?

I actually went to see this movie out of curiosity, so I contributed to its gross. But it was just another disappointing failure of a superhero story in pretty much all elements.

Seemed up there with the last Fantastic Four as an example of someone with at least some sort of vision being forced to make the movie worse because executives got nervous about doing something even slightly different. I bet there is a much better cut of this movie somewhere on the editing room floor. And it likely won't be coming out on the inevitable director's edition of the DVD.

That being said, I actually did enjoy the film some, but because it was good. Mostly because of all the questionable scenes that were fun for me to pick apart logically.

>>86264969
>Take a look at when Joker's helicopter crashes. moves so rapidly and cuts to a slow motion falling Harley for a few second and then goes back to fast speed.
there was no problem in that, only you were confused

>Or how the final fight has so many wide shots of everyone with a lot of empty space around them, showing how hollow the final fight is.
examples?

>I liek how the fans have goen from saying they liked it but admitting the editing was awful and the thrid act was a mess

I like your spelling. Doubt anyone with even casual interest in film thought the editing was good, in fact most fans would like to see ayers version anyway.

> the thrid act was a mess,
first time i have ever seen this complaint brought up.

>but now they're denying even that.
Denying what? the film had good visuals, choreography and damn good uses of cinematography at times.

>It's exactly what the BvS and Gotham fans did too.
So you're an autist with an agenda

>Just keep Big Brothering yourself, fanbase. Maybe if you all change your stories and pretend the world is out to get you, the movie will magically become better.
no really, are you autistic?

>>86265127
>someone disagrees with me, better call him autistic

>>86265127
>there was no problem in that, only you were confused

Is there some ability that people get these days where they can process shit when it's shot really fast and awkwardly

>>86265086
>That being said, I actually did enjoy the film some, but because it was good. Mostly because of all the questionable scenes that were fun for me to pick apart logically.

meant to write but not because it was good.

>>86265152
if you write like you're autistic i'll call you autistic.

>>86265162
no, you're just a bit slow in the head

>>86264593
Maybe they're not sure how much Zootopia's marketing and budget cost. And counting all that money in Chinese too.

>>86265052

Or maybe you've been talking to different people on an anonymous woodcarving board, rather than everybody changing their story at once. People are capable of fully enjoying a movie despite its inherent flaws.

>>86264091
Not surprised.
I saw the movie on week two on a packed theater with my dad on my right side, and some random tumblr Harley fan girl on my left. And both of them seemed to enjoy it, my dad said he liked it better than Independance Day 2.

>>86265271
>my dad said he liked it better than Independance Day 2.
Well, that's not saying much.

>>86264904
We need more people who like both. This Marvel VS DC thing is obnoxious. Can't we like both? And throw in some Dark Horse for good measure.

I'm still interested in seeing what movie pundits will make of Suicide Squad's box office what with it never opening in China.

>>86265295

>I'm still interested in seeing what movie pundits will make of Suicide Squad's box office what with it never opening in China.

It made money because it had no competition and the trailers made it look different from every other generic blockbuster this summer had shit out.

Hell I saw it because of the trailers and I fucking hated BvS. I was hoping the rumours were false and that Ayer had managed to overcome WB and make something worthwhile, I got rused by the marketing.

>evans.webm
the person running "leggier" in a race is the loser m8

Funny how only DCEU has such an extensive shill squad. This is the 10th+ thread I've seen this month trying to defend this flop. I don't recall CW needing daily threads about how it didn't suck

Live and let die!
Fight!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlaB-PnUP5Y

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>>86264091
>stupid people like shitty movies as long as Superman isn't a grim-n-gritty necksnapper
We've known this for a long time, anon.

>>86264124
>best of the DCEU so far
Well that's just sad.

>>86264576
Deadpool made a lot of money but X-men apocalypse under performed enough that I think Fox is basically saying we need deadpool in everything which is going to be a problem in its own way

>>86264589
>He even goes so far as to point out that they included previews from Wednesday and Thursday in their opening weekend total to artificially inflate it so they could claim a record weekend, when in fact they just had an extra couple of days of release and didn't report them properly.
That's how opening weekends are reported for all movies, bro. The fact you can't even get that most basic of facts right pretty much invalidates everything you say in your essay.

>>86265592
>flop

still trying to push this meme, are we, mousenigger?

>Literally no competition
>hyped to hell
>can't break 800 mil
sure thing buddy

>>86266638
the salt is real

>>86265359
I contend that people actually liked Suicide Squad.

>>86266638
Not WB's fault no one releases blockbusters in august even though its a part of summer too

Still
Sausage party
Don't Breath
War Dogs
Kubo and the two strings
Pete's Dragon

All have come after suicide squad

>>86267353
legs ie the multiplier a film makes over its budget domestically
Civil War had a higher budget and opened bigger but didn't make so much money apart from its large OW

>>86267772
None of those are really blockbusters.

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>>86264091

DELETE THIS

>>86267847
Pete's Dragon was supposed to be. It just flopped hard.

>>86266638
>>hyped to hell
>literally a 27% in RT with critics literally tipping their mouse hats
>entire articles begging people not to see the movie

Face it man, there is going to be cutbacks in the Mouse shilling department. Good luck next time lol

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>>86264356
You know what Snyder SHOULD direct?

Fourth World.

Now hear me out. The plot is simple enough even he couldn't fuck it up, there are not really any deep themes for him to miss the point of like with Watchmen.

The best part of Fourth World is the visuals and the inherent coolness of the characters and concepts. I think Snyder proved with Watchmen that he's really good at adapting the comic imagery to the screen, and even though MoS and BvS were lacking in that department, I think he could pull it off.

As long as they get a good screenwriter to adapt the plot with oversight from Johns and hopefully some Kirbyfags like Giffen and Didio and of course the Kirby estate to keep them from making it look like... Whatever the fuck Steppenwolf is supposed to be, I think it could be really good. Granted it would probably end up long as fuck and overblown like the Watchmen Ultimate Cut and BvS, but that's kind of what I want from a fanservice movie like this.

I'm rather bummed to see that Star Trek Beyond is going to lose money in the long run. It wasn't a bad movie and was the best of the reboot movies.

Did Into Darkness really shit the bed that much?

>>86268729
It MIGHT break even or turn a small profit if the home video sales/rentals are good. Also might depending on how much the movie channels pay for it.

But damn, I knew the remake of Ben-Hur was going to be a bomb but it might end up being on the top 10 biggest bombs of all time now.

>>86264091
Eh

This movie was alright. It's pretty much like a dumb goofy action movie like Deadpool or a Jason stathem movie.

I enjoyed it but I really don't think I'll see it again unless my friend who will
Buy it will have a movie night.

It's better than a lot of shit like independance day 2 (worst blockbuster of the year), but it's not "muh CAPEKINO" or whatever.

>>86268729
Yeah man that sucks, I guess into dankness and the sabotage trailer turned off so many people. Shame because it's far better than the JJ ones

>>86264589
You sound SUPER mad, friend.

>>86268729
Into Darkness soured a lot of fans. The mystery box concept JJ is famous for backfired badly.

The big problems that kept it from doing better:

1) The horrible first trailer and complete fuck up of the marketing. Things went silent after that and that first trailer stayed in the public consciousness for months. We only really started seeing new ads and marketing weeks before the release.

2) Paramount is in terrible financial shape right now. They literally couldn't afford to distribute and release the movie worldwide. Even now it hasn't opened in a few major areas. A good quality cam rip/screener hit the net right after the US premiere. Basically destroying large amounts of revenue it would have made in those territories.

>>86268729
>the one good new Star Trek movie will bomb meaning the new ones will be Star Wars knock offs or none at all
>paramount will make more shit transformers that will make billions

Paramount was a mistake

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>>86264734
>Can we stop with this meme that SS needs a bajilion dollaru to break even?
Indeed.

Why are people happy that a bad movie is doing okay-ish?

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>>86269008
Also...
>INB4 LOLOLOL LOOK HOW MUCH CIBIL WAR AND DORY MADE LOLOLOL
... Disney either hits big or loses big. When they lose big, it eats massively into their profits.

>>86269008
>>86269034
Jesus paramount stop hitting yourself

>>86264091
It's had the advantage of coming out in an absolutely dogshit summer season.

>>86268934
>Paramount is in terrible financial shape right now

This is true and it's quite possible that Paramount as a studio won't exist in the next 3 years.

They are hemorrhaging money and didn't have a single successful summer movie this year. Plus talent (directors/actors) are actively avoiding them. Due to troubles securing funds after green-lights are given.

>b-b-buh Guardians!
>Deadpool and Suicide Squad beat Guardians of the Galaxy if you subtract China

Hows that little chink dick taste marvelfags?

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>>86264576
This post right here.. is the delusional Disney mousketeer. Youre just gonna assume nobody is buying BvS and SS toys because why??

>>86264091
I just find it funny that the only DCEU film not directed by Snyder, and the most Marvel-like is the only one that has been a success.

>>86270165
>the only DCEU film not directed by Snyder
Well yeah there's only been 3 movies so far.

>and the most Marvel-like
Yes, Marvel invented action films with comedy in them.

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>>86264269
>>86264291
>>86264313
>>86264318
>>86264331
>>86264336
>>86264344
>>86264350
>>86264356
>>86264413
>>86264437

Man, Japan FUCKING loves the movie

>>86264091
Civil War was still better though

>>86270165
MoS and BvS were financial successes, though.

>>86269231
Why would you subtract China?

>>86270721
BvS had a bigger net loss than MoS

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-04-08/-batman-v-superman-seen-earning-less-profit-than-superman-alone

>>86270942
Suicide Squad is banned from China because of Katana's inclusion on the team.

>>86270959
>BvS had a bigger net loss than MoS
The article says it's estimated to earn a $278mil profit, which is down from an estimated $300mil, which is a 7% drop. Could it have made more? Sure. But compare that to the estimated profits of the 10 biggest winners in the summer (typically where studios can earn the most money) here >>86269008 and that's still more than considerable and a big reason why WB is easily the #2 studio this year. Hell, if you if you actually look at the budgets they've invested for their movies, WB actually leads the pack when it comes to what they've earned per dollar spent. They'll tweak and work on their DC movies for maximum profitability, as evidenced by basically letting DC Films be their own branch now under Jon Berg and Geoff Johns. But acting like that's a terrible result is laughable.

>>86271123
No gotrillions, no profit.

>>86270165
>most Marvel-like
That'd be Green Lantern

>>86264091
b-buuuut...you faggots said it was a flop...

>>86265271
>my dad said he liked it better than Independance Day
ASK YOUR DAD HOW MUCH HE WAS PAID BY WB TO SAY THAT!

>>86271464
Its is a flop when you include the gorillions it took to market, the reshoots that lasted 2 years, and the fact that theatres take 80% of the money. The theatres must be burning all that cash because they are all inexplicably going out of business.

>>86271774
But independance day 2 is the worst blockbuster of the year by the poor mans michael bay

Hell, people get triggered over the ghostbusters remake but even that was better than id42

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>>86264666
nice trips

>>86265283
Dark horse hasn't had a movie made in years.

The film was utter fucking trash who gives a shit.

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>>86264091

>>86264091

Ive been wrong about the movie going audience for about 3 years now. Capeshit has thrown me off. Id never have predicted jurassic world having such a big opening, or the fast and furious franchise holding so well. Secret life of pets and other animated things.

I will admit, I HAVE NO FUCKING CLUE WHAT IS GOING ON. I don't know what will sink or swim, but I do know, just because a turd floats, doesnt mean it isnt a turd.

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>>86270666
>Man, Japan FUCKING loves the movie
>All that is by the same artist
>Lower opening than Civil War, BvS and Deadpool

What do you know? Japs managed to have better tastes than us for once.

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>You can argue that we shouldn’t necessarily be applauding a movie for being about as leggy as The Incredible Hulk, but it gave me an excuse to dive into the world of second-weekend freefalls. And once again we’re looking at a situation where opening in so-called offseason can provide protection for a frontloaded movie in a way that opening in the heart of the summer cannot. That will be something to watch over the next few years.

So a film that opened at the tail end of summer with no competition is leggier than a film that opened at the front end of summer where it had more competition. Why is this news exactly? Especially when its dropped like a rock once the fall movie season began and got beaten by a low budget horror movie?

>>86264237
poor Star Trek Beyond

>>86272036
I'm glad this reshoot and marketing meme is getting this ridiculous

And yet Civil War still made a LOT more money than Suicide Squad.

>>86264091
In the end neither movie is worth caring about

>>86264091
/CO/ BTFO

B T F O
T F O
F O
O

>>86264237
>Kubo is a bigger loss than Ghostbusters
I'm fucking triggered right now

>>86264741
I thought their Ghostbusters videos were ok but that does sound like shit.

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>>86264091
>read this good news
>live action is going to be banned from /co/
Pity, things were going back to normal. But I'm happy for DC and for this board.

>>86264413
You think she'll get her powers back?

>>86277336
What the hell did they expect.

They released a kids movie when kids were going back to school.

It's like they were purposefully trying to make it fail.

>>86264433
Only for women to go out in droves to see it mostly for Harley. Poetry!

>>86269010
Company wars

>>86269231
>Deadpool and Suicide Squad beat Guardians of the Galaxy if you subtract the part where it didn't

>>86264537
This movie triggered more people than BVS and MOS combined.

>>86272079
Will made the right choice in passing on that shit.

>>86277698
You obviously weren't here when bvs was being disscussied than

>>86264285
People tried really hard to shill against BvS and it paid off.

>>86264237
Wait, was BFG bad..? I loved that book as a kid, yet to see it but it flopped?

>>86264626
Not to mention Snyder's Ultimate Cut.

>>86277841
True

People will shit on squad but at least he's not getting any shit for it.

If he did ID42, an obvious 20 year nostalgia cash in, he'd so much egg on his face

>>86274410
>>86274544
casual reminder not to reply or respond to the /a/ fag marvelcuck

I don't care that it made money, I don't care how much money any movie makes unless it's a movie I adore that needs another installment. I don't care if suicide squad makes 2 billion, I just won't see the sequels because I hated this one

>>86264285
>BvS underperformed
>872m

It did just fine.

>>86278368
They wanted 1 billion but didn't get it

Like how everyone said ultron underperformed because it didn't make more than avengers despite making like a billion dollars

>>86267955
Do shills get paid based on effectiveness or per post? Bad time to be a Disney shill.

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so many ass blasted disney shills

>>86270705
Civil War was a flop.

>>86264091
Every single superhero movie released in the past six years has been terrible. But you wanna know why they get sequels? Because each and every single one of them makes a assload of money. And you wanna know how they make so much money? They're all created by a focus group dedicated to making the film appeal to as many people as possible. Why? Because it sells, Corporations care about profit more than anything else in the world.

They're franchises that people see as "safe", making a habit of watching what's essentially the same film every year, fearing to diverge from the dominant culture. In a way they're similar to old Spaghetti westerns, though unlike the classic Cowboy movies which were written and directed by people who actually cared about the mythos, superhero flicks are just corporate MREs made to sate a populace hungry for entertainment.

Superheroes were meant to be a archaic piece of americana. A artifact of the twenties, thirties, forties, fifties, and even the sixties when magazines like Weird Tales were in old magazine shops. Not as symbols of America's gradual intellectual and artistic decline.

OP looks like a kid that's bullied in a game, hold a grudge and comes later to have the last laugh when everybody is already playing a new game and not giving a shit to the old one.

>>86278787
>Because each and every single one of them makes a assload of money.
This is pretty much the only reason why blockbusters get made in Hollywood.

I'm always somewhat baffled by why we nerds take so much pride in how much money something earns, as if it somehow validates that if the movie's not good then at least it's popular. These topics always devolve into armchair box-office economics, and I don't know why, even though I've probably engaged in the same argument more times than I can count.

I mean it's not my money, I'm not making hundreds of millions of dollars, and in theory I'll be the person spending money rather than making it. So the connection is always really fucking weird.

>>86278787
Superhero movies were a mistake

>>86278949
and so were (you)

>>86270705
Civil War was literally a retraced BvS.

>>86275032
Sex appeal. Seriously why is this so fucking hard for people to understand. Is Suicide Squad a good movie? No. But it is a fucking sexy movie, and when was the last time we got that? Seriously when?
This movies gonna be the Batman Returns for a new generation. In ten years teenagers will be talking about all the fetishes Enchantress gave them and all the Harley Quinn scenes they used to leave on pause till they put themselves in traction.

>>86279360
Well that's not the right reference.