What makes South Park's social commentary entertaining,

Execution

one is jewish, the other isn't

>>86033249

It is a matter of angle. Family Guy wants shock value, South Park wants witty satire.

>>86033249
One of them takes the piss out of both sides while the other has a clear bias and agenda.

south parks talks about an issue

family guy pushes an agenda or chooses one side

>>86033249
Seth's retinue is made up of lame Ivy League graduates.

>>86033277
ppphhhhffft

>>86033283
This, right here. South Park does it for the sake of making a statement. Family Guy does it for the sake of making a spectacle.

>>86033298
>>86033303

Family Guy is liberal and South Park is Conservative Libertarian. Just because you don't know the politics of it, doesn't meant they aren't there.

>>86033298
>>86033303
>implying South Park hasn't consistently shat on Scientology while praising Mormons

And all the episodes about global warming being a joke or fake...

Family Guy is preachy and at times disregards humor altogether

>>86033249
Family Guy tries to be clever while South Park actually is clever.
Also South Park never tries to push an agenda but makes fun of everybody.

Serious question and not looking to get into a political argument but is there a point where family guy became so liberal and why did it? Also why so much atheism stuff?

>>86033249
lack of ego. seth is so smug and trying to sound smart, matt and trey are just telling shit like it is
they arent always right, but they do point out shit where "everyone thinks" one thing yet the minority that thinks otherwise have disproportionate control
>>86033344
dude, sciencefags change their story every year. remember el nino? it's pretty damn clear they dont know what theyre talking about. That doesn't make their opposition right, it just means they need to shut up
and they never praised mormons, they use them as the butt of jokes because they're so damn likeable. they go commit random acts of kindness door to door. whereas scientologists literally murder people.

the only shit i can remember south park getting wrong is the cigarette thing (basically they got fooled by the false flagging done by the "anti"-cigarette shit funded by the tobacco companies) and basically anytime they were like "well shit gay is fine but pedos are gross and wrong and obviously so"

>>86033478
Seth is a BIG atheist. Like, to the point of funding Neil DeGrasse Tyson's show just so he can have a whole portion about how why need God when science is something we can all agree on?

>>86033478
two words dude. the war.
you know when they finally shut the fuck up? 2010-ish, when all of TV suddenly seemed to get a lot better, even shows that had previously sucked.
they all collectively slipped up again in the next election, but for the most part they realized nobody wants to hear that shit anymore

which is why the next election after that was custom rigged for controversy. they NEED the ad money from that shit, even if everyone's sick of it

>>86033249

They both sucked and went downhill after their movies when they started doing current event/political shit

>>86033478
If I had to guess it was basically Seth realizing he had a popular enough show to preach his opinions through. He was always a liberal and an atheist.

>>86033337
>Conservative Libertarian.
Made up bullshit name, embarassing.

>>86033249

South Park's "social commentary" stopped being funny after the 4rth season.

South Park doesn't use Non Sequiters.

South Park won't have Stan and Kyle stand there and repeat "laura bush killed a guy" while looking at the 4th wall.

Cartman and the others, always get their comeuppance for the bad things they did.

>>86033249
They are both really cringey, and if you think either is entertaining then you are too young to post here.

>>86033607
You mean like they did with Bruce Jenner?

>>86033298
>One of them takes the piss out of both sides
This is what pisses me off about South Park. It's that incredibly irritating refusal to take a stand and mocking fucking anyone who does anything while acting like a smug cunt because you're too lazy to actually offer anything of value to the conversation.

>>86033607
I couldn't help but hear this in MrEnter's voice for some reason

Cartman always gets away with shit, as well as the other boys to a lesser extent

Can't I like both shows? South Park is a little better, but they have less shows per year, so I don't see it as a huge difference.

Maybe /co/ needs to stop picking shit apart and just enjoy a fucking cartoon.

>>86033658
what about that time South Park sided against George Zimmerman because Trey's black wife was going to make him sleep in the cuckshed if he didn't?

>>86033683
>Letting other people hating a show define whether or not you can like it

With skin this thin I'm surprised you don't cry outrage at the mere existence of either show.

>>86033683
>/co/
>enjoy

>>86033658
>you HAVE to chose a side!
>i love supporting the lesser of two evils!
>everything is black and white, what do you mean there's more than two sides??

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>>86033249
when South Park approaches an issue its always new to the characters, so you get some good interpretations of an issue by different characters. it just makes sense, they're kids you know
as for Family Guy, Peter is always playing the ignorant guy, but usually Brian, Stewie, and sometimes even Lois, they know something and already have an opinion on it when its brought up right away. making them feel like a writer's mouth piece

>>86033303
I would rather have the chosen agenda that transsexualism is okay pushed on me than have another drooling Jenner running over someone recurring gag talked down my throat.

>>86033731
But the kids of South Park are mouthpieces of manchildren.

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The difference is that SP has actual clever input on social and political issues and puts them across in an entertaining way.

FG is just Seth spouting his smug nonsense. It has a bad case of telling the same story over and over again.

Both shows get preachy as fuck, but South Park at least makes an effort to keep it's writing top notch. Family Goy just stop trying.

>>86033249
Family guys usually is out of place like an episode will just be super serious (like the time they killed the guy beating Quagmire's sister) & despite Kyle's speeches it feels way less preachy. Probably because it is part f the shows format and into just some topic they feel like bringing up in the middle of the randomness. He learns from the ridiculous situation he is in while family guy will just have one of the main characters make a sarcastic comment about how messed up something is.

>>86033727
You don't have to choose a side, you can excuse yourself from the conversation or present your own solutions. What makes them look like cunts is that they sit on the fence and mock anyone who actually gives a shit. That viewpoint is absolute fucking cancer.

>>86033478
sometime after the revival (season 4) Brian gets specifically liberal in his views
he was always a tad liberal and a metaphor for someone dealing with prejudices before, but they forget the clever nuances in the latter, and just make him a full anti right wing and liberal mouth piece
sometimes they play it for laughs like him being to liberal, but a lot of the time you don't really see the writers having any insight on the character and just make him the mouth piece

>>86033650
The thing bad about the Laura Bush one was that they kept repeating it like "hey is that true? Guess I'll look it up" & the whole point was they just wanted to put it out there. The Jenner situation was just a running joke they didn't continually have Kyle talk about it.

>>86033249
Because Seth MacFarlane is cringe-y and lame.

>>86033837
When anyone that gives a shit deserves to be mocked then I don't see what's wrong with that.

>>86033658
>>86033837
It's called being open-minded. You should try it sometime.

>>86033249
Because Matt and Trey are actually intimately involved with South Park and Seth McFarlane is basically on autopilot while he cashes the checks for whatever turd he pinches nowadays. As for the actual content of the political stuff, Family Guy tends to suck because McFarlane is a stereotypical obnoxious libtard that puts an emphasis on the message rather than the joke while South Park only uses current events to accentuate the comedy and rarely get preachy.

>>86033658
but there is no value to the conversation

>>86033283
South park had more than their fair share of shock value and gore early on, though they eventually took a hint and scaled it back while family guy would push limits much later on in their run.

>>86033337
>South Park
>Conservative

>>86034035
Shitting on people for caring isn't being open-minded, anon. It's being a smug prick.

>>86034067
>>86034025
So we should just sit around sniffing our own farts and doing fucking nothing about anything because stupid people make discussion difficult? Nothing would get done if we all just wallowed in our own smug superiority like they do.

>>86033727

>sure Hitler did some bad things but what about all the bad things the Jews did?

Some issues do have a right and a wrong. Not everything is relative.

>>86034196
i don't think you have to 'take a side' but you should acknowledge that just sitting on the fence pointing fingers only reinforces the status quo

no one's really generally neutral anyway, it's just a front to avoid conflict

>>86033505
What the fuck are you talking about and what does that have to do with anything in this thread?

>>86034290

It makes perfect sense from a marketing point of view. If it turns out your personal beliefs are in the wrong on an issue nobody will know what they are if you're mocking all the players equally.

Their formula is to basically build giant strawman arguments for each side and then sit back and say "see how stupid it is to have a core belief. Look at how stupid they all are."

>>86033743
Neither Family Guy or South Park handled that subject very well Quagmire's father was referred to as an it after her sex change, Brian vomited for an extended period at the realization that they had sex. This was supposed to be a sympathetic portrayal as well.

Mrs Garrison and the treatment of Caitlin Jenner are both bad as well. The sex change being compared to wanting to be a dolphin or a black guy. Mrs Garrison acting as an odd stereotype of women while seemingly not knowing she still lacks a uterus. I don't like Caitlin Jenner one bit but that was a harsh portrayal. For someone her age the sex change came out looking better than most yet she is portrayed a bulky disfigured man with long hair in a dress. She is called a weirdo even by Mr Garrison.

>>86034617
Caitlin Jenner still got away with murder so fuck that ugy

Family Guy has a lot more tasteless jokes than South Park. Take Joe for example, he started out as a capable cop despite being handicapped, his backstory was sympathetic, his handicap was never holding him back and though there were plenty of jokes none of them were offensive. Now? All his jokes are about him wanting to commit suicide because he is so useless, apparently he is no longer capable of doing useful police work, and they even changed his backstory to make him more pathetic.


They also rely a ton on shock value humor like this horrible bit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSmzjTGbXmc

>>86034617
The Mr. Garrison shit is the lowest point of the show but I don't feel bad about them mocking Jenner after the undeserved dicksucking she received by the media.

>>86033249
South Park actually puts in effort into making their show.
Okay that was mean, but considering current Family Guy I feel it was justified. To be honest though, even in it's heyday Family Guy never was one for good social commentary. I mean you can see it in a lot of early American Dad too that their commentary came off as a little preachy and not as witty.
Now what early Family Guy and later American Dad do well is wacky situational comedy. Especially modern American Dad does a great job of doing really ridiculous story-lines where the characters bounce off each other well and make for a funny series of events. South Park does that good as well, of course, but where South Park starts to shine is, as OP points out, their entertaining take on social commentary.

>>86034648
Got away with what? She got into an accident that wasn't caused by speeding, texting or drunk driving. There isn't anything to charge her with. These accidents happen, and have happened to thousands of people since then who weren't charged either. I don't get the obsession with this accident when other car crashes by celebrities are instantly forgotten while I've seen conspiracy theories going as far to suggest she transitioned in order to not be charged or to sway public opinion even though she wouldn't have been charged and the public had already forgotten. I don't like Jenner and the rest of the Kardashian trash either but calling Jenner a murderer is just ignorant.

>>86033337
>Scrotie Mcboogerballs argument

Like clockwork.

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>>86033249
Here's the difference, South Park makes fun of everybody, Family Guy just mocks conservatives and many of their conservative jokes just seem easy as fuck, South park on the other hand is more of satirical spoof on American life, which makes its satirical jokes more complex and wittier. Some episodes will deal with social-political stuff and then some will deal with certain aspects of American life, such as : wrestling, driving Hybrid's, underage girl parents, etc. Also I think at this point Mcfarlene no longer cares, SP has its fair share of shock humor, but at least there is a punchline, as for this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSmzjTGbXmc [Embed] its less dark humor and more like poking at a piece of roadkill for amusement.
>>86034617
I kind of like the fact they war hard on her, same thing with they treated Trump. Again, it goes back to its mocking of American life. What Trey and Matt are saying is: you people treat these celebrities as if they were these gods among men, when in reality they are deeply flawed assholes.

>>86033249
Because family guy either tries to be offensive, force a moral, or be deeper than it actually it. south park is stupid humor for it's own sake with social commentary sprinkled in there, and combine that with them putting in the creativity that family guy used to have

>>86033249
See, now you're starting with the assumption that South Park's social commentary isn't cringy and lame sometimes too.

>>86033249
Because after family guy's second revival seth realizes that the show show will never die but only transcend

>>86033249

well actually be timely helps a lot. Most shows or comics don't get on shit till like at least three months late

>>86034194
South Park shits on everyone as a means of accentuating general ways of thinking more than making clear-cut political statements.

Family Guy is just "HEY I'M AN IDIOT AND I LOVE JESUS!" over and over. And never in the actual episode's plot, but rather some smug cutaway.

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>>86033416
>South Park never tries to push an agenda

>>86035313

You seem to be confusing expressing an opinion with pushing an agenda.

Seth seems like a guy who hates on Christians and calls them evil while defending Islam and Muslims

>>86035704
That one episode of American Dad shat all over Islam's flaws.

>>86033249
South Park's humor is more organic because its humor comes from situations relevant to the plot. It has characters with consistent personalities (or at least moreso than Family Guy) and it tries to make the overall situation funny instead of having a normal story punctuated by irrelevant humor and cutaways.

>>86035395
You seem to be confused thinking that those are different things.

>>86035704
>>86035822
plus an episode of Family Guy where Peter befriends a Muslim who recruits him for a suicide bombing. Also frequent muslim jokes. He's friends with Bill Maher who is openly anti-religion and critical of Islam.

>>86036022
>He's friends with Bill Maher
I guess it makes sense that 2 of the most obnoxious and childish atheists would be friends.

>>86034617

Mr Garrison had a sex change in a 2005 episode That was still far and away a distant time compared to current-year-limey-fuck. Trannies were hardly even realized to be a thing by most people outside of drag-queen sort of situations.

You also sound like you're rather sensitive on the subject. Why should they be nice about transexualism and not nice about Christianity Liberalism Islam Matt damon driving hybrids wresling gay people (look at the leading gay characters - a bondage leather-daddy and a lisp hello sailoorr~ guy) mexican day laborers jews poopsocking gamers or gamers of any variety atheists and anyone else they've shit on in the past.

South park isn't an afterschool feel-good special.

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>>86033325
Truth.

>>86033344
>praising Mormons
What?

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>>86035988
That depends like your mother being a slut. One could say she is a whore they mean the same thing, but one gives it up for nothing and the other gives it up but wants cash first.

>>86036149

How young must you be to think trans were invented in 2005?

There were transsexuals in the news back in the 1970s.

>>86036245
There was that one scene where an angel declares Mormonism to be the correct religion, but it was obviously taking the piss out of religion writ large.

>>86035704
He's pretty openly anti-Semitic and racist for a liberal these days. Most try to hide their bigotry.

>>86033344
>praising mormons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu4y7x9LRyY

>>86036245

a running joke is that Mormon is TRUE religion but it's pretty obviously a gag

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Soth Park and familiy Guy are zombie tier show, it's not even funny at this point.

>>86033765
I thought Randy was.

>>86036486
>Sitting right next to somebody with your breast hanging out
She could've just moved instead of being a complete cunt about it.

>>86036417
They do have a bias towards Mormons. Both their religion and Scientology had them both believing in ridiculous things but Scientologists were malicious while Mormons are perfect and sweet. Even Book of Mormon had mild jokes about them being intolerant but glossed over it in favor of them being well-intentioned.

Family Guy fans are dumber then Dane Cook fans on average, this alone makes the show trash.

>>86034971
An episode about a raunchy story that makes people vomit uncontrollably was too smart for some people, I guess.

>>86036486

Wow... this webcomic is painfully unfunny. Did it end when she killed her baby because of postpartum depression or did her kids just grow up and want nothing to do with their mom who thought she was a cow goddess?

>>86036365
Reminder that God in South Park is still a Buddhist despite only allowing Mormons into Heaven and that Super Best Friends show that the major world religions are all true.

Trey and Matt said they don't want to be considered conservative or liberal because that would mean people would associate them with nuts like Glenn Beck and Michael Moore, respectively. It's not that they hate both political sides, but that they think leaning too far onto one would make their jokes seem less like jokes and more like pandering to those kind of people. So they take a stand in the centrist ground, hence why the last episode made arguments like "social justice is okay as long as you don't act like a massive dick to white people about it" and "gun ownership is all right, but people who turn guns into some kind of sacred cow are crazy".

>>86033249
Neither are good. Family Guy is shock value and South Park is soapbox: the show.

>>86036599
well, one is a global scam that tells you that you have shit wrong with you, that sues for the smallest slights and cost them a long-time cast member, and the other is a silly, but ultimately harmless religion that advocates family values and positive attitudes.

I wonder which would get shit on more.

>>86036705
You have no idea how horrible Mormons can be, do you? You might want to look into this a little.

>>86036705
I see you get all your info from South Park because, just like all religions, Mormons have an absolute shit side to them, too.

>>86036721
>>86036729

yeah, let's paint everyone with the brush of a small group on the whole.

I wasn't even talking about the people, I was talking about the religion itself. scientology offers personality tests and by becoming a member, they offer to cure you of the problems they themselves diagnose.

the worst shit mormonism as a religion advocates is polygamy, and really, what a couple(or more) does in their bedroom isn't any of your business anyway if it's all consensual.

>>86033249

Family Guy is funnier at this point, it has basically become looney tunes + the simpsons

>>86033277

but they're both written by ethnically jewish people, anon, not an argument

>>86036721
Well, give us a link to how horrible Mormons can be. Besides FLDS, because even normal Mormons realize those shitters are crazy.

And Trey wrote an entire musical that went "Yeah, Mormonism is really fucking stupid when you think about it, but its followers are pretty nice and friendly, and we need more nice and friendly people." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYTpd8QOSA0

>>86036741
hell, that's the lesson of the south park episode too.

>>86036599
I think they're open about their bias since one of them was introduced to Mormonism because he dated one and most Mormons they know are nice functional people. But did they really show Scientologists as malicious? The only one who had malice was the guy in charge who was a scam artist but they portray Joseph Smith as a scam artist as well.
>>86036674
Wait what episode has sacred cow guns? I don't really remember a gun episode apart from last finale and the only joke was they seemed to be they were mounting a very precarious situation where everyone had guns on each other but in the end they civilly talked everything out but with guns on each other....and then PC Principal punched Lesilie through the head.

>>86036772
I think the problem scientology had with it was they showed off a bunch of the inner secrets of scientology(all that stuff about xenu), while also calling the religion a scam.

this pissed off the church so much that all but forced isaac hayes to quit, which inspired The Return of Chef

>>86036741
>give me a link to how horrible Mormons can be, except these Mormons because they don't count since they don't support my view
Okay, whatever. I don't think you'd accept anything I posted.

>>86036740

and to add onto this, if you think family guy is still liberal, you haven't watched it in the last few years, back when season 7 was airing, the political climate and issues were a bit different to what they are now

>>86036789
>except these Mormons because they don't count since they don't support my view
yeah, and westboro baptist church is a great example of christianity, and ISIL is a great example of islam, right?

Extremist groups are not, and should not be, examples of the religion as a whole.

>>86036737
>the worst shit mormonism as a religion advocates is polygamy
>forced child marriages
>fraud
>persecution of gays

etc. etc.

>>86036796
I don't think I ever said anything about Mormons as a whole, but since that's what you're arguing against, I guess that's my position after all?
Seriously, what the fuck are you even saying? You're obviously agreeing with me, and yet you're trying to argue against me. Why?

>>86036806
B-but those don't count because!

>>86036808
I'm saying it makes complete sense that Matt and Trey are far more openly supportive of Mormonism than they are of Scientology.

you tried to insist your point was being dismissed because the other anon was exempting an extremist group from your claims.

>>86034617
They went all in on Jenner because literally nobody else would dare speak a single ill word against her.
They were basically making up for all the glorious praise and dicksucking she got for months on end.

>>86036847
>her
>she
Stop that.

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>>86036847
>dicksucking

>>86036847

I don't know what dick sucking you're talking about. Most LGBT people I know can't stand Jenner. Just because she's trans it doesn't make her a decent person or even a role model.

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>>86036861
You missed
>dicksucking

>>86036861
>>>/pol/

>>86036876
Fuck off with your bogeyman for once.

>>86036870
>Most LGBT people I know can't stand Jenner.
And basically everyone else would not shut up for MONTHS about how BRAVE she was, about how much of an AMAZING WOMAN she was

shit, she won bravery awards for coming out over decorated soldiers who got their legs blown off saving comrades.

>>86036885
you first, mate.

>>86036889
>you first, mate.
How can I if I didn't even mention or blame some bogeyman in the first place?

>>86036889
All that was before Jenner came out as a Republican. Now they hate her.

>>86036900
>transgendered people should have their mental illness completely ignored and we should keep insisting they be referred to as their original gender
>>>/pol/

>>86036486
last season of SP and the game were fucking great

>>86036915
Jenner is a shitty person, give me one legitimate reason why I should respect him enough to call him what he wants to be called.

>>86033249
South Park is and was NEVER funny.

>>86036944
>Jenner is a shitty person
agreed
>give me one legitimate reason why I should respect him enough to call him what he wants to be called.
because dismissing Jenner's transgender issues also belittles and demeans all the other not-shitty trans people out there.

>>86036944
>caring enough about jenner to activaly refuse to call her a women
Drake I thought you were in jail what the fuck.
I guess you found a way.

>>86036959
I'm pretty sure I can pick and choose who I want to belittle and demean.

>>86036975
and I'm pretty sure I can point you to where you'd belong more.
>>>/pol/

>>86036986
If you so desperately need an echo chamber, why don't you go to tumblr?

>>86037001
If you so desperately want to prove you don't care about whether or not something is acceptable, why don't you go to >>>/pol/ ?

>>86033249
South Park isn't really as issue-oriented as people make it out to be.

It focuses more on telling a coherent story within the context of its episode. The story is often about something pop-culture or a social issue of the day, but there's still more of a focus on telling a coherent narrative rather than making the point they wanna make on the issue.

>>86033249
I think it's a matter of structure. South Park has a much wider and more diverse cast of characters which allows Matt and Trey to approach subjects from several different angles, and Family Guy just doesn't. Plus Family Guy really struggles with finding a tone that allows it to be both joking and earnest, something that South Park mastered a long time ago.

>>86034194
There's literally a phrase called "South Park Conservative"/"South Park Republican" to refer to their brand of lolbertarianism. (To some degree painted as centrism too, but ultimately it has a Republican voting tendency even if it's not outright LET'S BOMB IRAN tier.)

Fucking libertarians. They get so close to the right idea. "Yeah, the government shouldn't stick it's nose in where it's not wanted" and you go "Yeah, that's cool." and then they immediately start going "Well yeah, I'll vote for the guys who back the PATRIOT act so long as they cut taxes!"

It's always fucking taxes taxes taxes. You have a good fucking idea and then you blow it because all you fucking care about is the taxes. Civil liberties can take a hike so long as you get to keep more of your cash.

>>86033480
>we believe in tolerance and all that gay stuff but dude, fuck you

It's a good line and is true

>>86033337

>South Park

>conservative

They're libertarian

South Park does not have any real social commentary.

For the most part all it does is stand in the middle and laugh at people for taking anything seriously. The fact that anyone considers South Park to be intelligent or groundbreaking goes to show how immature American politics are.

>>86036861
>Getting so triggered you feel the need to censor how someone else speaks
Huh.

>>86033480
>sciencefags change their story every year
It's almost as though science is a constantly changing and improving field of study. It's almost as though predicting the weather with 100% certainty is a near impossibility. It's almost as though you're completely incompetent.

>>86035395
It's pushing an agenda if I don't agree with it. It's expressing an opinion if I do agree with it.

>People in this thread think transsexuals aren't mentally ill
So /co/ really has become tumblr

>>86039345
>Mom come quick, I posted it again!

>>86039345
who said that?

Hell, I was the one who got in the actual disagreement with the faget getting triggered over calling jenner a she, and I straight out called it a mental illness here >>86036915

Southpark adds jokes to its social commentary, while in Family Guy, social commentary is the joke.

>>86033480
Science has been wrong before. Part of what makes it great is admitting it's wrong. That doesn't mean scientists aren't fuckwits, because they are. Look at Randy Marsh. Randy is a dumbass.

Or you have entrenched old men defending the WRONG orthodoxy of prevailing opinion. But SCIENCE can take change. Although sometimes it takes cranky old men dying out of academic and scientific society posts for it to happen.

Depends what it is of course. Some practical things can have a much faster turn around time, if they don't shake things up too much. It's the really basic things that get huge resistance, things that question our understanding of physics, or the order of the universe on a largish scale like that.

The characters of South Park have morals and have lines they're not willing to cross unless they have to.
Peter doesn't give a shit about who or what he hurts in his attempts of comedy, even Cartman doesn't go out and commit crimes willy-nilly, he has a goal, Peter just seems to do whatever the hell he wants.

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>>86036903

Go Figure.

It's not winning awards that were never hers to win or killing someone and not giving a fuck that made American turn on Jenner.

But coming out as a Republican.

BRAVO LIBERALS!

>>86033743
Southpark gave you both.

>>86033480
>sciencefags change their story every year.

because that's how science works you fuckwit

they collect data and change their position according to the evidence. which is overwhelmingly in favor of humans affecting the composition of the atmosphere and causing a mean increase in temperature worldwide

>>86034617
>There's a huge difference between transgendered people and Mr. Garrison. Do you understand, son?

>>86036245
>praising mormons
>there are people that seriously think this
>when matt and trey made a fucking broadway musical making fun of mormonism
/pol/ and /x/ get out.

>>86033478
What's hilarious is after a while the show got so shitty and self-loathing it's become extremely conservative in turn.

>>86040706
I don't think they're purley doing it to take the piss out of mormonism though.

Heck, Mormons even praised Matt and Tray for representing their faith accuratley, both in the South Park episode and in the Book of Mormon.

>>86033249

An interesting question. Both of them are based on ridiculous caricatures of the people they vilify.

However, in the execution, you get the sense that SP isn't taking itself very seriously. The caricatures seem more like the creators of SP shit-talking than honest criticism, and the show knows it.

Family guy, on the other hand, uses extremely bland, tired satires, on the level of "CHRISTIANS ARE NAZIS LOL", and acts as if it totally believes these criticisms are extremely accurate. `

On SP, the humor is supposed to be derived from two levels:

1. The ridiculous over-the-top nature of the satire
2. The show openly recognizing how ridiculous and over-the-top the satire is

On family guy, the humor is one dimensional: It's simply "People who disagree with us are bad and we ourselves are witty and intelligent."

>>86033658
>muh fencesitters

you have been on 4chan for too long, distance yourself from this vile pit

>>86036403
>The creator of Family Goy
>Literally "Fuck Anything That's Not the Liberal Status Quo: the Show"
>Anti-Semitic

Give some details; I'm genuinely curious.

>>86033337
>Just because you don't know the politics of it, doesn't meant they aren't there.

Everything has a bias to an extent, family guy wears it on it's sleeve.

>>86043302

The anon is probably a cuckservative who thinks that jewish jokes or criticism of Israel are ANTI-SEMITIC OY VEY

>>86035313
lets correct that to south parks agenda pushes are more tolerable and less sanctimonious.

For a show with a serial rapist as a regular character family guy spends a lot of time on it's high horse.

>>86043366

MULTIPLE serial rapists (quagmire and old pedo)

>>86043348

It tells jokes involving stereotypes with the assumption that there's a layer of irony present in the same way Wile E Coyote walks along thin air sometimes with the assumption that there's ground.

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>>86033325
South Park goes daily to the land of Meaning, while Family Guy is just entertainment. Silly Family Guy every show needs a meaning!

>>86043366
But at least they never made fun of the great and beautiful hero Caitlyn Jenner. Oh the horror!

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>>86036903
is that really true. holy shit that's hilarious

>>86036903
>BUCKLE UP, BUCKAROOSTH

>>86036365
That's obviously a joke considering an older episode basically ripped into the religion itself pretty hard, probably just as bad as their Scientology episode. It's pretty obvious Trey and Matt don't actually think Mormonism is the "correct" religion considering they're not religious themselves, it's just they think Mormons are nice people for the most part.

>>86044234
You're referencing a movie whose entire purpose was to express butthurt.

>>86036599
That's because Scientology is a borderline cult. Mormons may have their fair share of seedy history, but it's nowhere near the amount of shit going on behind Scientology.