The Great X-Men Storytime - Vol. 4: Mutant Massacre (Part 22)

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Sorry about failing to check in yesterday, I had a surprise visit by a friend.

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This little "The Twelve" sub-plot won't be resolved until much, much later, and by then I'm not even sure if it's even the same plot.

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>No, I meant "The, mutants. The"

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>I swear I'm not crazy! I mean, yes I am hearing voices and seeing things, but other than that I'm not crazy!

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>Wait, so you're married and you keep a sexy picture of ANOTHER woman?

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I can happily say I've never had the displeasure of tasting burnt popcorn.

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Scott loves Maddie! Scott loves Jean! Angel loves Jean! Jay-zus. Is there any wonder why people call X-Men the biggest superhero soap opera?

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Oh no, it's Ike Perlmutter!

More Simonsons try to fix X-Factor!

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>What are you, anyway?
Uh, definitely not a mutant! No siree, no muties here!

Simonson's Sentinel design with the crown is so cool.

>>85997965
Simonson cyclops is best Cyclops

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Oh c'mon, not now Internet.

>>85998344

what's funny is they say that about Claremont.

>>85998421
>>85998491

now this is some fucking Scott ANGST

>>85998359

hell yeah, kids realizing Xavier is a garbage person

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Finally, Jesus Christ.

>>85997965
>What's up, mah muggas?

Exiles Anon hit Claremont Exiles, reminding me why I am not at all a Claremont fan these days.

Welcome back, OP. Bitterness over Yet More Inhuman Bullshit subsided a bit?

This issue is the GOOD SHIT.

>>85998117
You still planning on backtracking to that Hulk annual or whatever it was?

>>85999024

i feel bad for not jumping on that. Exiles should be my shit, like alternate universe adventures!, but something about it..... (same with New X-Men or w/e that kid generation is)

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>>85999024
>Welcome back, OP. Bitterness over Yet More Inhuman Bullshit subsided a bit?
Yeah, I'm OK now. At least RESSUR(X)ION (kek) implies something a bit more hopeful, so we'll see.

>>85998169
That joke is evergreen.

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>>85999058
Oh, not tonight, sorry. I am tired af after going to a birthday party. Like last time, tomorrow if this thread is still around. I'm 100% free tomorrow so I can definitely deliver this time.

>>85998226
He DID just go through the Mutant Massacre and I'm pretty sure that's the kind of thing that IRL causes PTSD.

>>85998269
Is it cheating if one's a clone of the other?

>>85999136

not to mention Jean everything.
and Sinister has been mind fucking him too for god knows how long now

>>85999069
Exiles is remarkably solid... until Claremont.

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>>85999069
It starts out fun but it gets pretty bad later. I'm honestly not sure if it's worth reading at all since you don't get a full story if you quit before the shit hits the fan. I wholeheartedly recommend Parker's Vol 2 though, nice little 6 issue self-contained story.

Also, Blink with pigtails

>>85998311
You are lucky to have a good microwave.

Since Orville Redenbacher switched to their "bowl bags" I burn almost every one.

>>85999187
>>85999204

oh i've heard it's fine-good things, it's an irrational reaction

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>>85999136
I'm just the guy a hard time, I completely sympathize.

>>85998379
Walt draws good skellingtons.

>>85998488
White X-Factor suit is best suit.

>>85999262

I feel like setting this in an oil field is a "Screw you people who think Scott's blasts are firey"

or it will end as expected

do the 12 get revealed? because if not crack idea of where Scott has been

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>>85999243
Honestly, I've only eaten microwaved popcorn twice, all the other times it's been at the movies when I want one of those promotional cups and such.

>>85999347

Scott, Xavier has faked his death like 5 or 6 times at this point

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>>85999315
>do the 12 get revealed?
Yep, in the fucking mid-late 90's.

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Oh noes!

>>85999426

>googles

oh they made it a whole event.

>>85999487

man i expected it to be like Cyke, some names, and then randos but turns out it's the opposite problem.

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>When there's some mutie in your neighborhood...

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On the one hand, oh no! But hey, ass.

>>85999597
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHSDb-oI808

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Oh c'mon, it's not like anyone would miss Sheev Palpatine over there.

>>85999771
Actaully, I'm pretty sure it is SOMEBODY's fault. The Marauders. (And by extension, Senor Sinestro)

What's the best way to collect Claremont's X-Men work?

>>85999839
The omnis are probably your best bet, although there are some trades that collect different hallmark parts of Claremont's run (Dark Phoenix Saga, Mutant Massacre, etc.)

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>>85999930
Whoops

>>85999839

Omnibuses probably which go up to #175. There's an Epic collection that has #189-198. Then an old collection called Ghosts that has #199–209. Then mostly they're collected in Event books Mutant Massacre, Fall of the Mutants, etc etc.

Also old Marvel Masterworks or Essentials (which are b/w)

In theory eventually the Epic collections will have it all.

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>You couldn't even save the Angel from the humans' mutilation!
To be fair, like anon said, that's mostly on the Marauders.

>>86000000
Booooo wasted.

>>86000000
Thanks.

Nice get.

>>86000036

>recommending some of the best cape comics ever
>waste

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>spooky scary skeletons

>>86000062
He's probably from /sp/ and was trying to get a dank meme.

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>>86000036
Screw you, that's a great get. Also, proof that /co/ is a mutant board!

Angel they left your best mutant power alone! (being insanely good looking)

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Yuh-oh.

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>that War
Pick out two.

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>>86000107
kekle

>>86000000
Witnessed

it's strange Jean's the only one running around in the costume

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>More torture!
>More guilt!
Well, at least they're up front about it.

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>>86000255
It does wonders for her figure.

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Aw shit, surprise Mazzucchelli!

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>that pearl necklace
Now I'm getting Year One flashbacks... flashbacks!

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>>86000000
Fucking beautiful.

>>86000192
Why the hell does even a society of outcasts put up with an asshole like Masque?

so looked up the upcoming X-Men related epic collections. First volumes of New Mutants, Excalibur, X-Force, X-Factor, and the start of Claremont 94-110 plus odds and ends all in first 1/4 of 2017.

also some lee/kirby this December but...

>>86000273

reminder this is all kurt busiek's fault

>>86000000
Amazing to think it's been 85 million posts since Hank Scorpio claimed 1 mil get from an exploding board...

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>>86000404
No idea, even from a tactical point of view he's utterly useless and only makes the rest of the Morlocks look bad by association (sometimes literally).

>>86000353

AH SHIT

>>86000330
>Artie in the infobox

I love it.

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>>86000441
Hey, at least they're still reprinting X-Men.

>>86000461
Yeah seriously, I have no idea why Callisto didn't just shank Masque for all the trouble he caused.

>>86000441
>reminder this is all kurt busiek's fault

Boo hoo.
Busiek's not ruined half the books Claremont has.

>>86000000
great get
relevant post too for extra points

>>86000461
He's nothing but trouble, and yet he somehow is still around EVEN NOW.

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Too hot for him to handle I guess.

Mazz is too good for this, jesus.

>>86000461

i like this page kinda pointing out they should be teaching at Xaviers which would be the exact same.

>>86000494

i was just making a joke about lee/kirby not being that good. There's also a Wolverine collection that's got Wolverine 133-149 and a Wolverine/Cable mini. They're actually doing a good job of X-stuff, at least with the Epics 5 outta 13 so far in 2017.

>>86000541

I mean destroying the X-line is pretty impressive.

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>>86000595
That's one character I wouldn't mind getting M-Pox'd.

>>86000598

these kids are a superior Rogue/Gambit huh

>>86000541
Busiek hasn't created a third of what Claremont has

>>86000648
And then they decide to tell Earth to fuck off, and Holocaust eats Rusty, leaving Skids to forever languish in 'occasional appearances' limbo.

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>>86000741
Spoiler alert!

>>86000772
Well, hey, if we can talk about Monsieur Sinestre, I think's it's fair play, innit?

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Aw, that's... kinda sweet?

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>>86000830
Touché.

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I like that little detail with the force field leaving behind a trail.

>>86000441
So would that be a better route to go than the Omni's?

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>>86000942
Probably, at least for the purposes of actually reading the actual issues. Omnis have proven to be quite... unwieldy in that regard in the past.

>>86000928
She 'skates' along it like Iceman.
Skids and Iceman should both have nice THICC speed skater thighs.

>>86000956
>Masque has the mutant power to turn people into Kirby Golems.

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I'm sure this will end well.

>>86000942

probably? imo get marvel unlimited if you wanna read it and buy those to collect and support. (and dl what isn't on unlimited(which is like mid 40s New Mutants, most X-factor at least)) also who knows how long it'll take for the whole run to come out and 20$ a pop or whatever.

also if you google some you can probably find more in depth lists.

i wonder if New Mutants 50 will have reprinting problems because of micronaunts cameos.

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>>86000000
Praise kek, he has the mutants under his sight

>>86000639

>YOU WANNA DIE UGLY!?

ok now I love masque

>>86000703

>only ten years since X-Men started

ahhhhhhh!

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So, obviously the Simonson titles crossed over a bit. We didn't read that Thor issue because this is the Great X-MEN Storytime, so I try to stick to X-Titles only, with a few notable, necessary exceptions of course.

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Also, that previous page is hella gay.

>>86000752

>panel 4

so is this when Hodge starts being revealed as evil?

>>86001217
Basically Bobby got kidnapped and ended up getting a power boost.

>>86000928

Took you long enough to put it together Skids

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>>86001244
Yeah, he doesn't seem very torn-up about it, does he?

>>86001243
Human Hank is still such a jarring sight.

>>86001244
No, Weezie's been subtly doing that since she took over writing, likely because the premise for this series is insane.

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Well gee, thanks Cameron.

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Aw, Artie and Leech.

it's criminal Weezie isn't as well known as Walt

>>86001326

this is the first i've noticed. knowing that ahead is hard to unknown/unsee in him because yeah otherwise this is insane and makes so little sense

>>86001217

>DIE MUTANTS DIE

So inhuman issue?

and that title reminds me, Scott fucking one v oned the Master Sentinel in one issue

it weird to think at the time some people thought Angel was actually dead.

>>86000000
Nice

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>>86001393
Yeah, even in that CBR list of best female writers, KSD, Simone and Wilson were over her, the fuck.

>>86001297

>maybe they went into space, they do that sometimes

& Scott when did you abandon someone in Space? that was your dad.

where are the xmen rn? still licking their wounds in England?

>>86001485
>Yeah, even in that CBR list of best female writers,

I feel like that list was probably written by newfags, and I can't remember the last big book Louise had. Steel?

>>86001485
I am a big fan of Skids' tiger print pants.

>>86001523

more like no sense of history/pre-00s comics. /co/'s slightly better but because of forcing old storytimes for years.

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>>86001458
This was before the Death of Superman killed death in comics.

Also, I just noticed Weezie introduced the Morlocks to the DCU in her MoS run kek

>>86001576
>more like no sense of history/pre-00s comics

Well, yeah, that's basically what I meant.
They're new, and genuine faggots for dismissing anything that isn't the biggest name stuff from before they started reading.

KSD is the first female writer Marvel ever hired, etc.

>>86001599

i wonder if it came across as obvious that he's who Apoc has

>>86000404
>Masque
I'm certain Masque will prove very useful sooner or later in some storyline to come.
After all, body reshaping is technically a default healer ability, Mystique uses her cosmetic-alteration powers for espionage rather effectively, Old Blue Hank McCoy could have swallowed his pride and asked for help from Masque at any time over the years, cosmetic alterations aren't the last thing that mutants like Kurt would find useless... at least before "mutant and proud" became a theme...
I can think of lots of mutants that wouldn't mind a makeover. And hell, reshaping a body that had ...say... just had two wings amputated wouldn't have been the most useless power.

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>>86001576
Yeah, /co/ is full of newfags too. Mostly /tv/ shitposters though, the actual noobs that are interested in comics tend to keep their traps shut.

>>86001644

Kurt's been Mutant and Proud from like the start

now i wanna storytime that awesome X-Men Classic story with him and Wolverine at the bar.

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>>86001507
>where are the xmen rn? still licking their wounds in England?
Yep, these issues are contemporary to those UXM issues we read a little while back.

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>>86001684
Go ahead, anon! Make this board a better place with one more storytime.

>>86001692

>Giving Caliban an X-uniform

Awwwwwww!

>Has a mask

goddammit guys

>>86001650
We reading Fallen Angels next then?

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>>86001724
Hey, at least it's a badass mask. Could've gone full Bombastic Bag-Man.

>>86001644
You're ignoring Masque's contrarian, belligerent personality in all that, though.

He's a total dick.

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>>86001755
First the X-Men VS minis, then Fallen Angels.

>>86001724
Let's be fair.
All their uniforms have masks too.
But they have less... distinctive faces to cover.

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Omega mutant perks yo

I'm trying to remember how/if this comes up when the X-Men get to San Fran get a bit

>>86001864

ok when did everyone level up

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>>86001892
A while ago, they just forgot to spend their perks.

>>86001892
They all got bonus XP for roleplaying well during Angel's death.

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>C'mon Iceman, the mike's icing over!
kek

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Alright, that's all for today. Tomorrow: Fantastic Four vs. X-Men!* 'till then!

*and that Hulk annual!

>>86002000
Thanks for the storytime X-Anon.

>>86002000

i haven't read any of those but in my mind they're all Magneto vs the Marvel U

>>86002000

never read them but i refer to those as Magneto vs the Marvel Universe

>>85998193
>>85998247
>>85998491

Holy Glob! I had no idea the "ProfessorX brainraped all his child soldiers" awareness went this far back.

>>86000000

Cyclops proven right again!

>>85998226
Black Cyclops would have been shot in that last panel.

>>86003859
Well, he *IS* being arrested just for being at the scene of an explosion without any other justification at all for the arrest. And despite obviously being delirious and irrational, no attempt whatsoever is made to get him medical attention.
At one point the rookie shouts out "He's reaching for a gun!" when it's obvious that he's holding a baby toy.
Sound about right?

>>86000000
The digits have spoken, let it be known.

>>86000404
I think he's(?) mostly there as a reminder that the Morlocks could leave at any time, but prefer living in a shitty sewer to dealing with the rest of the world.

ugh marvel used to be so much better, it was always shittier than DC but at least it was DECENT with an occasional really good book up until the mid 90s

>>86000135
>Maybe we can get X-Factor to hunt us up a few just like him!

It's a million dollar idea. An X-Factor brothel.

>>86000595
>He's nothing but trouble, and yet he somehow is still around EVEN NOW.
What? I remember someone killing him a long fucking time ago. They actually brought him back?

>>86004763
(Masque is trans)
There's actually a whole backstory where the Morlocks have been manipulated into becoming "us mutants vs them humans" with Masque being the means of making living among the "pretty" humans impossible.

>>86004891
Yeah didn't Cable blow his head off in one of the early X-Force issues?

>>86004891
>>86005028

Mutant mortality. It is what it is. Or isn't, as the case may be.

In a way it's kinda comforting that it's not just the X-Men who just won't stay dead.

>>86001326
>the premise for this series is insane.
It's really not that insane. Unsustainable perhaps, but all in all it's just what the X-Men did except they take calls in from asshole Marvel Civvies and charge them a hefty fee for finding them new recruits.

>>86000000
WASTE

>>86005504
Not exactly, the Professor's original idea was that the X-Men be an ongoing publicity stunt where his team mutants are associated with superheroes like the Avengers.
That way the public sees that not every mutant is a monster and that the ones who are will be dealt with by mutantkind's X-Men, in a self-policing function.
However, because Hodge has removed the "good mutant" aspect from the narrative with the X-Factor team, the public now sees it as heroic humans vs. monsterous mutants only.
With a nation-wide advertising campaign to push that negative and confrontational message.

>>86004093
Sorry, I was making a joke because there is a black Cyclops from X-treme X-Men

>>86005021
Masque might not be a transsexual, he or she (?) was originally just really really ugly and ironically couldn't use his or her body altering powers on himself or herself, that's why he or she is such a jerk/beouch.
Then there was a story where Masque somehow inexplicably an (obviously) temporarily gained the ability to use those powers on himorherself, transforming herself into the spitting image of Marilyn Monroe, and then transforming himself into the spitting image of James Dean, etc... etc...
This was, of course, because the writer didn't know the character's backstory, so who knows if that genderbending is going to be treated as canon when Masque isn't even supposed to be able to use those powers that way and was last seen with the ugly face that they don't want.

>>86006376

yeah Xavier's whole thing was showing mutants can help by being heroes and training new mutants to control their powers and live in society.

Pretending to be human and fear mongering is the opposite?

>>86007419
Well, Charles Xavier also lived in the mutant closet pretending to be human.
It wasn't until his evil twin Cassandra Nova outed him in Morrison's 2001 run that he lived openly as a mutant.
But when the world thought he was human he was the world's leading expert on mutants and mutation.
X-Factor is literally doing what their hypocrite idol taught by example, that's probably why they didn't kick Cameron Hodge's ass on day 1.

>>85999839
Essential X-men has the entire Claremont run in 11 volumes

>>86000303
>Boy, bet you feel bad now, huh, Peni?
Kek

>>86007967
Did you read the letter where they ask if Bobby's going to find himself a girl anytime soon?
BonusKEK!

>>86007376
Claremont created Masque and wrote the story where Masque was suddenly a girl (and alive;the character had been stabbed to death by Cable in liefeld's X-Force run).

It was a clear example of Claremont not giving a flying fuck about other writers work (case in point, the story in question also had Guido reverting back to his dumb humorless thug persona). Especially since not only did Claremont ignore Masque's death/all previous stories involving Masque but implied that Masque had been a girl for quite some time, as far as him showing up as a girl not phasing Storm.

Claremont ATTEMPTED to cover his bullshit with an asspull claiming that he was forced to cut a scene where Masque is explicitly stated as being a tranny/wearing a rubber real doll mask, as well as claiming that Masque could now altering his flesh (since at the time, circa 2000-2006, a lot of mutants were given brand new powers that were handwaved as "secondary mutations"), in violation of what was overtly established as Masque's main motivation for his being evil: that he could only change other peoples faces.

Brubaker eventually used the later when he brought Masque back following that Claremont story to explain away Claremont ignoring his own past stories: Xavier outright states that Masque's powers changed to allow himself to change his own flesh, due to a secondary mutation and he was shown using them on himself, as he used them to briefly impersonate Leech

>>86008097
That is so sad.
If he had only done his homework like a real writer he could have twisted, tweaked, adjusted, and edited those story elements and have made something that could be canon.

This crap happens with a lot of minor characters, they get the chance to move up to the big leagues but some writer who doesn't care about canon comes along and BLAMMOE!
...and then it's retconned away and the character can't be used again until the readership forgets the whole ugly mess.

>>86000430
>Hey, Rusty! Where's the fire?
Scott you son of a bitch

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Professor X learning about X-Factor

i was reading uncanny, how Madelyne learns about x-factor is insane

>>86001772
Did Scott just straight up murder the people in that chopper?

>>86008913
Self defense is still a thing.
You ARE allowed to protect yourself and others when the asshat terrorists that are about to destroy a city are firing rockets at your aircraft.

>>86008780
If you think that's insane, you should see the situation when Jean first meets Rachel

>>86001410
fuck off Cali no one wants your creep ass to come with them, no matter how useful you are

>>86008576
How dare you post that! His mother was a saint! (a saint who died wearing PrincessLeia's metal bikini... but still a saint!)

>>86009535
She did give birth to a son who was absolutely right about everything. But she also gave birth to Scott (and Vulcan I guess).

>>85997965
Thats a really cool sentinel design, why dont they use it more?

>>86008097
he does that crap all that time. He ressurected the Neo in the nightcrawler series with no explanation when Fraction killed them off.

>>86011282
Bump

>>86012443

Is reading the Avengers Annual where Freedom Force beats the shit out of the Avengers important to read?
I fell off the wagon.

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>>86000000
nice

>>86014852

Annual 10?
It introduces Rogue I think but really it's Claremont trying to fix Avengers 200

>>86016344
Too bad I'm shit at writing. Applying for a job at Marvel to jerk off character I like and do amusing bullshit and make ends to plots left dangling sounds cool.

>>86000598
This is too real.

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Alright, as promised, here's Master Mold's previous appearance before X-Factor.

>>86018765
>>86018733
Warren is living the dream.

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>>86019503
Not for long!

While the creation of X-Factor is regrettable, it is kind of nice that my three favorite muties (Cannonball, Cyclops and Nightcrawler) were each major in one of the three ongoing titles.

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>>86019437
Dude wtf. I was a huge story time of your new mutant and beginning of X-factor story-time; then you up and dipped out with no return in sight..

Now you're back and all these dead links. Wtf! how can I catch up to your feverish pace!?

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>>86019700
Use 4chan X? Or put the post numbers in desu, I'm too lazy to do it myself lol

http://desuarchive.org/co/thread/84957128/

Uncanny X-Bump

>>86019309

fucking bad guys and their tubes