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Would the Harry Potter films be as big as they are if they went

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Would the Harry Potter films be as big as they are if they went with the original plans of them being animated?
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>>85985066
No.
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>>85985066
>They wanted to animate Harry Potter but could not be fucked to animate A Series of Unfortunate Events and The Spiderwick Chronicles in favour of shitty live action.
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>>85985110
Didn't they make those live-action specifically because HP was so successful and they just wanted to mimic them? Turning a popular dark kids book into a live action film trend at the time? Golden Compass also came out around that time. I'm sure a few others, too.
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>>85985110
Diana Wyne Jones at least had one of her books animated, even if it was kind of over adapted for the Japanese Audience.
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>>85985066
>animated films ever being as succesful as popular live action films
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I think we all should ask how much more popular they would be if they went with the original intention to make Hermione black :^)
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No, but they would probably be better
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>>85985676
This is the weakest bait of this week. You should feel ashamed, I'm literally ashamed of you.
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>>85985842
It's an ironic joke, lad, as prompted by the :^) :^)
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I wonder how the early version set in America and starring Haley Joel Osment, potnetially directed by Steven Spielberg and condensing several books into one plot would've faired.
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>>85985885

terrible.
its why it wasn't done.

I don't understand movie studio thinking of "I like this, but want to change everything about it"
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>>85985905
"Kaneda is a bartender in Neo-Manhattan."
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>>85986055

you shut your dirty whore mouth
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>>85985905
They only like something because it's profitable, they don't don't know what's good.
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Didn't Rowling refuse to have them animated, for whatever reason? Like that was suggested and she was like "never, fuck that."

The earliest books especially actually seemed like they'd translate well to animation though.
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Absolutely not. Most of the appeal is the empathy and similarity between you and the characters, animation removes a significant portion of that.

Would be interesting to see how an animated movie fared from 2000 to 2012 or whenever the last one was though. I'm not sure it could compete or stay relevant with all of the competing CGI.
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>>85985066

Five years after the film franchise and nine after the books and I'm still ready to give them money for Ilvermorny and Fantastic Beasts.

Did you think there was gonna be regret here? Nah, son
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>>85986314
She's basically a dumb housewife so to her suggesting her books be animated probably sounded like an insult rather than a respectful idea.
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>>85986332
It was Harry Potter and people love Harry Potter. If the first ones were popular all of them would have been.
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>>85985842
>he replied
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>>85985066
I think animation would have age better. How long till the inevitable remakes?
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>>85986474
If only Harry Potter had an animated series worthy of one like Deltora Quest.
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>>85986432
Ilvermorny would have been really good as a movie. I'm excited for Fantastic Beasts because the Nundu sounds based. The cool creatures were one of my favorite parts of the books/movies.
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>>85986496
Lol, no.
Among kids, yes.
But general audience, no.

People automatically dismiss animation as for kids and manchildren.
It would have been popular enough to get a live action adaptation tho ;^)
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>>85986533
I see BBC doing season long remakes of each book in at least 10 years. Possibly when Fantastic Beasts is all done.
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>>85986474
I think it's rather because she always planned for the books to get much darker as time went on.

The first four would have made great animated films but after Cedric dies it definitely moves out of kids territory.
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>>85986563
Except there are plenty of animated movies that make assloads of money :^}
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>>85986572
They transitioned from kids books to teen books but you can still make stories for teenagers in animation
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>>85986572
>death is taboo for cartoons
>but I swear toons aren't just for kids
It's a dilemma
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>>85986563
Lots of Pixar and Disney are widely admired by both adults and kids. Look how many adults love the Finding series because of Ellen Degeneres, or how many young adults love Wreck It Ralph and Zootopia.
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ITT: /co/ pretends they know showbiz
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>>85985066
if it meant getting another beautifully animated 2d film, i´d love it even if i´m not a big harry potter fan, the nintendo game also sounded really cool
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>>85986572
>but after Cedric dies
B-but Mufasa's death...
Like I know Lion King is still relatively kiddie after that with Timon and Pumbaa, but that doesn't negate some of the dark stuff in that movie. I mean, Scar gets eaten alive at the end.

Big Hero 6 also had a really good funeral scene. And I think the climax to Monsters Inc is so goddamn effective despite having outdated CG that it still makes me tear up, because I see Sully tearing up.
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>>85986589
And they're more popular and make more money in live action.
Animation is inherently limiting to market to everyone, but then one can argue most blockbuster summer flicks are largely animated, though with CGI instead of toons.
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>>85986648
it´s denial because we don´t want to believe that when executives make bad decissions they make it out of spite for the fans every time
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>>85986569
>Eight seasons of Harry Potter rounding at 45 - 60 minutes an episode

God yes...
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>>85986624
>>85986589
Surely yer not manchildren enough to believe animation does not carry a stigma and live action is still not the preferred visual medium by most everyone, surely.
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>>85986690
Having your movie about a wizard school limits your movie to basically the same audience as cartoons anyway.
The main readon teens watched HP sp much is because they got hooked as kids.
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>>85985066
Well, Op, let's compare live action capeshit to their animated counterparts, which ones are bigger??

Mind you, I personally feel capeshit should animated and not be made into tedious summer events...
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>>85986734
Animation does, but Disney and Pixar can bypass it pretty easily. Not that they're going to start making Coonskin films, but Harry Potter is still a family series. A dark one, sure, but so is a lot of what Disney-Pixar make already. The Incredibles has its share of dark shit, too. Tarzan and Up! also have some tragic moments.
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>>85986801
You'd be surprised, the first time I heard about HP movies (not the books) was on Howard Stern show way way back when.
Old as fuck dudes will watch the stupidest shit in live action, but walk out if it's a cartoon.
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>>85986819
Making them in movie form is really dumb, you never get enough time to flesh out the idea of the characters, but cinema carries a lot of importance in culture so it's more profitable to make them that way
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>>85986850
>the inevitable Incredibles adaptation
Kill me now
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>>85986734
That poor baby, she has those needles up her nose.
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>>85986474
>>85986314
She refused because the animated movies would apparently have to be set in America.
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>>85985066

Yes, if not more so. It would have given the studio greater control over things like actors schedule, size ect. The release dates, the budget. everything could have been consistent and better. Its Harry potter, it's huge.
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>>85986920
Incredibles is getting a sequel, so by the time it gets a live-action adaptation you should be well into your late 30's or mid-40's. Hopefully you'll have been numbed down to what Hollywood does.
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>>85985066
Animation is for children.

Live action is for adults.
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>>85986801
Have you forgotten they printed the HP books with "adult" variant covers so that grownups wouldn't feel stupid reading what appears to be a children's book in public?

Harry Potter was an insane phenomenon m8, everyone was reading the books, not just teens or kids
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>>85986951
>Hopefully you'll have been
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>>85987005
Hopefully, anon... Hopefully.
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>>85986572
Yeah, that's kind of what I meant. To her saying the books would be good animated is the same as saying that they're saccharine garbage for small children.
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>>85986928
So what, the movies were piss poor depicting British shit anyway.
Everything interesting and funny from the books were sanded away, watered down in the films to the point it might as well have taken place anywhere.
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>>85987001
Not the other anon, but I did not know this. Just searched it up, are these them? They also list these as the international covers but I only got these as the result.

Literally makes them look like they're part of the Game of Thrones series.
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From the Harry Potter film series wikipedia page

>A demand Rowling made was that the principal cast be kept strictly British, allowing nevertheless for the inclusion of many Irish actors, such as Richard Harris as Dumbledore, and for casting of French and Eastern European actors in Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire where characters from the book are specified as such.[12] Rowling was hesitant to sell the rights because she "didn't want to give them control over the rest of the story" by selling the rights to the characters, which would have enabled Warner Bros. to make non-author-written sequels.[13]

>Although Steven Spielberg initially negotiated to direct the first film, he declined the offer.[14] Spielberg wanted the adaptation to be an animated film, with American actor Haley Joel Osment to provide Harry Potter's voice.

Frankly the book series is so quintessentially British placing it in the US or having the lead character be an American would have been a shit decision.
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>>85985066
No, Probably because Harry Potter was easily one of the dullest franchise in the history of movie franchises. Each episode following the boy wizard and his pals from Hogwarts Academy as they fight assorted villains has been indistinguishable from the others. Aside from the gloomy imagery, the series’ only consistency has been its lack of excitement and ineffective use of special effects?all to make magic unmagical, to make action seem inert.

Perhaps the die was cast when Rowling vetoed the idea of Spielberg directing the series; she made sure the series would never be mistaken for a work of art that meant anything to anybody?just ridiculously profitable cross-promotion for her books. The Harry Potter series might be anti-Christian (or not), but it’s certainly the anti-James Bond series in its refusal of wonder, beauty and excitement. No one wants to face that fact. Now, thankfully, they no longer have to.

>But at least the books are ggood though!
The writing is dreadful; the book was terrible. As I read, I noticed that every time a character went for a walk, the author wrote instead that the character "stretched his legs."

I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that phrase was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Rowling's mind is so governed by cliches and dead metaphors that she has no other style of writing. Later I read a lavish, loving review of Harry Potter by the same Stephen King. He wrote something to the effect of, "If these kids are reading Harry Potter at 11 or 12, then when they get older they will go on to read Stephen King." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you read "Harry Potter" you are, in fact, trained to read Stephen King
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>>85987077
>Frankly the book series is so quintessentially British
I would argue the fact that Fantastic Beasts takes place in the U.S. (Granted with a British main character) and it still looks and feels like Harry Potter, that is partially untrue.
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>>85985905
>implying movie studios like things
>implying they don't just see something raking in money and want money for themselves

They don't even know the story or characters beyond the most vague plot progression map.
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>>85987061
The books are written at the same level as Devinci Code, so I don't see why not.
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>>85987098
Are you suggesting that Spielberg is talented or artistic, and not just a greedy Jew with an eye for garbage with mass-appeal?
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>>85987166
>Snyder makes Spielberg look like Kubrick
Wizardkino whenM
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>>85987098
>not having the picture

shitty attempt.
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>>85987077
>allowing nevertheless for the inclusion of many Irish actors
But the Irish are British. Just British in denial.
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>>85987061
The versions I remember had some stylized black and white photography on the covers, pic related might be it.

But yeah they sold the books in both the official colourful kid's books -style covers, and the more dark "adult" cover variants, and apparently had several versions of the "adult" covers too. I remember seeing loads of people reading them on public transport, both the kiddie and adult versions. Some columnists wrote on the phenomenon and commented that it's stupid, that if you like the book you should be happy to read it regardless of the cover, but the darker adult cover variants apparently sold really well, making the series appear more "serious". They clearly went for some serious grimdark fantasy or crime novel feel in the adult covers, heh
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>>85987238
Does anyone else think life seems super dull after Hogwarts?

After seven years at the greatest place in the world, you spend your adulthood working a boring job while dressing like you skinned your grandmother's couch.
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>>85987115
Lol, nah. Fantastic Beasts is a spinoff and not really a part of the series proper. I didn't know it's placed in the US, but I'm guessing that's to please butthurt Americans who can't stand some popular franchise not being about them. But trying to insist that HP isn't British because one british side character travels to the US in a spinoff story is retarded, come on
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>>85987054
Well the "British" are kind of piss poor depicting British shit so....
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They would have fucked them up, but I wanted them to be animated. I guess I'd rather have the entire series be live-action and somewhat mediocre than have the first three or four books butchered beyond belief in cartoon form, only to go to production hell or something.
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>>85985413
Howl's Moving Castle is an interesting enough film on its own. Even with Miyazaki's obligatory heavy-handed antiwar crap. But it's a garbage adaptation.
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>>85987294
>"hey what house would you be?"
>"nigger I'm 24 years old"
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>>85987343
I'm saying that most of Harry Potter is a fantastical made-up world and could easily be translated worldwide. The initial creation gives credit to a British author, what with how Hogwarts functions as a school, but at a certain point it stops being about "The schooling system is similar to British schools" and moreso "Oh, you go to Hogwarts? Yeah you go there for eight years!". Anyone in Japan, Africa, America, etc can understand that. Yeah sure, some of the now established aesthetic feels very "British", the boulder hats that characters wear, their attire, etc, but way more of the visuals are just "magic". Cloaks, pointy hats, Dumbledore's entire appearance.

What I'm trying to say, if I'm saying it very poorly, is that Hogwarts and Diagonalley I don't think would feel very different if they were American or British. At the end of the day they're both fictional places and as long as they followed JK Rowling's instructions on how it looks, it wouldn't matter much if the people walking around had an accent or not.
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>>85987294
>not becoming a magic cop and putting your life on the line to capture dark wizards every day
>not becoming a magical-creatures-diplomat, making sure the Centaurs don't rape every berry and mushroom-picker in England and dragons don't set up a nest at Fort Knox
>not becoming a curse-breaker making sure that the Egyptologists don't unleash plagues
>not getting rich designing magic treats and gadgets with your brother

The only thing dull is your imagination.
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>>85987524
>Boulder hats
BOWLER HATS goddamn me and my lack of double checking.
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>>85985066
It would be remembered like The Magic School Bus or Bill Nye or some shit. Like a "this was my shit back in grade school" but not something you'd actively pay attention to when you're older.
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>>85985066
I want an HP animated series where all the characters are voiced by Stephen Fry. It would be the comfiest thing ever
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>>85986699
It's also ignorance in thinking internet anons can run a movie franchise better than executives. Sure a lot of them make a lot of awful decisitions, but they've also allowed a lot of great ones to come through (which of course no one ever acknowledges). It's easier to think all of Hollywood is run by morons and that us intelligent internet users are more competent than them.
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>>85987524
I disagree strongly with that. There's a rather strong britishness in everything throughout the books, and putting it in a different culture would really change it. It's possible you're not so familiar with British things that you don't recognise it, but it'd really suffer from being placed elsewhere. Or maybe not suffer, but it'd be a very different series. It's not just about how it looks, and it's not really about just the visuals.
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>>85985885
>>85985905
I'd love to hear more about this version that never happened. At the time all the British tabloids were in outcry over "Hogwarts High complete with cheerleaders"
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>>85986569
My God that would be amazing. Can't wait for their version of HDM
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>>85987061
Those are the second, better adult covers. The original ones had very little to do with the contents of the books
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>>85987866
>Beedle-The-Bard-stylized animation exploring Wizard tales, narrated by Stephen Fry

Could be really good.
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>>85986332
>Most of the appeal is the empathy and similarity between you and the characters, animation removes a significant portion of that.

What? People can easily feel empathy for fucking stick figures. What are you doing on this board?
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>>85987156
Can't even spell DaVinci and criticizes the writing...
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>>85987524
It's true that at some point the fanyasy elements start to transcend certain real world elements.
However having it take place in America would rob it of some of most important aspects of the world and story.
England is essentially where the western world, and the secret Wizarding world was born. The history of the school and some of the Wizarding world's greatest events stems from England and other parts of europe.
If it were set in America, they would have to change history to explain why the Wizarding world didn't come to be until the Americas were colonized, or explain that all the coolest historical stuff happened in Europe, and that just leaves us wishing we were there.
Then there's the cultural disparity in the books. Hogwarts is full of kids from all around the UK with different accents and speech patterns. If it took place in America, they'd all just be American, and while that's not necessarily a bad thing, it's not quite as interesting or fun to explore. They'd also have to rework the tri wizard tournament, since it wouldn't make sense why they would hold it in America when almost all the major Wizarding schools are European.
It's not simply because the author is British that it takes place in England, it also makes the most thematic sense.
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>>85985066
Maybe then the students wouldn't have started wearing normal clothes in the later movies
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>>85988281
What were they suppose to wear? The only had two outfits: their uniforms and their casual wear. Why would they wear their Hogwarts uniforms when they were running from Hogwarts and family and give their identities away?
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>>85985066
U r stoopid.
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>>85988145
>Then there's the cultural disparity in the books. Hogwarts is full of kids from all around the UK with different accents and speech patterns. If it took place in America, they'd all just be American, and while that's not necessarily a bad thing, it's not quite as interesting or fun to explore.
Americans have that too, it's not a homogeneous country or culture.
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>>85988281
The normal clothes was a good choice though, the uniforms are great for being fantastical but the main characters (Harry especially) were supposed to be kids who were being immersed in and introduced to this weird wizard world the same way we were.
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>>85987418
>heavy-handed antiwar crap
meh he sucks at anti war shits it so stupid and forced
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>>85987877
eternal truth
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If they were well animated, and had skillful art design they wouldn't have made as much money, but I bet they'd have had better critical reception and be more remembered 10 years from now.
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>>85989837
They consistently air on TV and have continued to do so long after their theatrical running. A marathon is happening right now, in fact it's been happening every weekend on ABC Family for a long time. The books are still popular and the franchise overall sells extremely well, I'd say the films are pretty damn well remembered, especially the first one.
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>>85987061
I hate modern covers. They look so utterly shit. Give me one of those lying things that show the hero fighting a monster with a scantily clad girl at his feet over this bland garbage any day.
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>>85987288
They are literally not. Britain is the big island, they live in Ireland.
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>>85990132
Those still exist, they just aren't the dominant and sole image you'll see anymore. Nor is there a binary of "unoriginal pulp" and "bland crap" unless the only thing that can get you off is a mediocre knockoff of Frank Frazetta.
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>>85987077
>quintessentially British
>everything takes place in a suburb and in a castle that could be anywhere
>the most Limey thing about the characters is that Ron says "bloody hell" instead of "fuck"
That's pretty much it. It's not like half the school were pakis, characters were arrested for carrying a butter knife or Islamaphobia and everyone was a teen alcoholic, a chav or a slag. Now that would have been British.
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>>85990250
>It's not British because it doesn't have my /pol/ memes in it
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>>85985110
>not liking Emily Browning and her perfect lips

What are you? Not attracted to beautiful young teens or something?!
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>>85987292
>mfw these fucking covers

In order:
>History of British steam engines
>The rise of the British automotive industry
>The horse with it's head up the eagle's ass: history of modern British-American diplomatic relations
>The opium war
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>>85987238
Who originally said it?
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>>85990302
I feel your pain. If only that movie wasn't shit, she might have become another sex icon like Emma or Chloe. But the the next big movie she was in was that trainwreck Suckerpunch and it was 7 years later and she was far too old by then.
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>>85985066
It would actually be interesting to see if HP stands the test of time or sink into obscurity like so many once popular series. We will at least see a resurgence of interest in it when the people who grew up on it will become a profitable target audience for the studios to try and reboot the series for some nostalgia bucks a la TMNT and Bayformers.
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>>85985066
It'd be even more obvious how much of a ripoff the concept is of Books of Magic.
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You know I honestly I'm not sure. The books are cultural phenomenons that maybe they would've worked as animated films. However then again the Lord of the Rings had an animated film too and let's be real here if you were to tell people that, a good number of them would be surprised to know that.
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>>85986547
This.

Pukwudgie da best.
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>>85987532
Being a magic doctor?

Body horror, all day erryday.
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>>85986314
>>85986474
>>85986928
>>85986572
It's weird that she despises animation but is completely fine with video games. Normally people like her would hate video games.
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>>85991064
>when the people who grew up on it will become a profitable target audience
these people already exist. They are the twenty something of today.
And they're not going to like it because in most people's mind, it's Daniel, and Emma and Rupert and everyone else, and a new version will not be accepted unless it's another medium like comics.
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Maybe. The books were a huge phenomenon on their own after all.
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>>85991297
Not if they're older than thirty. (And grew up nerd)
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>>85991297
Only because the live-action films so utterly dominated the scene

For decades the cartoons were all fans had
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>>85991966
And the radio play. Which were insanely popular in their own day and influenced the movies in some ways.
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>>85987001
The adults who read it were womanchildren, HP is basically the female version of comics.
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>>85992593
>the Bakshi cartoon and the BBC radio play are responsible for the Black Rider sniffing out the Hobbits scene, the Balrog design and the casting of Ian Holm

good shit.
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>>85991875
Oh, you mean how the fans of Transformers and TMNT didn't like it? Because that made no difference and those pieces of shit made bank. Real fans will hate it, casuals who don't really remember much of the books aside from reading it once upon a time will watch it all day long. And you're forgetting that they threw a lot out for time, so other than the key plotpoints, the movies can be very different by utilizing different events.
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>>85985066
No, but it might have been fun.
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>>85991191

We where both just ripping off TH White
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>>85991297

The animated film was also unfinished. It was a successful movie but by no means a smash. However if RoTK was made it really would be a lot more well known
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>>85987380
You do know Catholics and Protestants still fight like fuck in Scotland and Ireland even through the terrorism has stopped
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>>85991064
>It would actually be interesting to see if HP stands the test of time or sink into obscurity like so many once popular series

The 8th book sold 2 million copies in it's first two days of release and that's just in the US and Canada.

Comparing Transformers cartoons and mildly successful TMNT movies to the Harry Potter franchise is absurd. To all the people who grew up with those movies Dan, Rupert and Emma are Harry, Ron and Hermione. It would by like Marvel recasting Iron Man after RDJ leaves and expecting the same results
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>>85990378
A book series about magically powered steam locomotives when?
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>>85995542
I always had a suspicion Rowling might be ripping off the Disney version, But I haven't read the book to compare.
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>>85987877
Agreed. The key to becoming successful in entertainment is to know what people want before they know they want it. Everyone thinks they know what they want...
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>>85987294
We've only seen the Harry Potter world from the perspective of Hogwarts

Being a Auror or a Magical historian seems interesting as fuck

I mean even Mr Weasleys civil service job seemed interesting
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>>85995927

We need some expanded universe comics. So much potential in that universe. I'd read a book about the Goblin Wars
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Harry Potter would have worked much better in animated form. Magic doesn't work in live action, it always looks terrible. And if they animated it, they'd actually be able to get good acting, rather than gambling that the children they choose as actors actually grow up to become good.
But it'd have to be done by Japan. America would just make it shitty CG, Dreamworks faces, and "ironic" circle tool eyes, and would look overal bad. Japan is the only country capable of good animation.
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>>85995765
Not that anon, but it's why HP recasting could only work yeaaarrss long after the films. Like, I can see reboot and shit happening in 2030. Reeves was also THE Superman for awhile but audiences still went to go Superman after him because enough time had pass.

And I do think HP can stand time. Its world building and general interest is as big as Star Wars. And despite the original prequels, the new movie still did amazingly. Yeah sure they had all the old actors, but I think they would have done well with Han and such. The brand alone is enough to carry it.

Like, I love HP and the films and would still be hyped as FUCK if Netflix announced a series where they'd be retelling the books in episode formats, because that just means more world exploration, even if the kid actors are new.
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>>85990250
>everything takes place in a suburb and in a castle that could be anywhere
Because America is just full of castles right?
As for the suburbs, you have to keep in mind that THE Dursleys were an exaggerated negative stereotype of British suburban families. The phrase "what would the neighbors think?" personified. That's not a big stereotype of American suburbs. If the Dursleys were American, they'd have to be reworked to be conservative Christians who think witchcraft is heresy, or nationalists who'd never let Harry go to school anywhere outside of America.
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>>85996889
>That's not a big stereotype of American suburbs.
Yes it is, though. Small town mindset, nosy neighbors, fuck watch King of the Hill where Hank is embarrassed of what others might think from Bobby's mundane activities like practicing magic outside of the house.
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>>85996962
First of all, king of the hill is garbage, and secondly, it's a poor example. Hanks is worried Bobby's nonsense will embarrass him, because theyre seen as stupid or unmanly. But he doesn't mind associating with paranoid wackos like Dale, sad sacks like Bill, or complete mysteries like Boomhower. Most of the time Hank doesn't like whatever Bobby's getting up to because he just doesn't understand what kids are into.
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>>85995765
It's precious how naive you are. Hunger Games sold millions, Shades of Grey sold millions and people are already forgetting those. And then we can remember shit like in-line skates, frisbees and hula hoops which were HUGE and are barely a shadow of themselves now.

The only thing that can show us whether it will stand the test of time is TIME. Whether it made enough of an impact on people to give these books to their own kids, whether the books are written in a way that will appeal to future generations as well, etc.
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>>85996337
I think traditional 2d was still big enough when the first film came out that they could've made it without having to do CG. But then you'd have the problem of them wanting to consider switching to CG before finishing the series in a consistent style, or not finishing the series at all, or taking too long between movies.
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>>85996889
Nigger, did you even watch Scooby-Doo? Apparently America is riddled with castles. But there are also a fuckload of other countries with castles. Pretty much every single European country and most of Asia and north Africa.

>>85997448
>I don't know shit, but I spouted an opinion and I'm sticking to it
Are you retarded? Caring about public opinion isn't an English thing, it's the hallmark of every single conservative small town or suburban family across the globe.
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>>85996337
>teenage weeb, the post
Lots of countries are capable of good animation, America especially, it's just a question of money and Japanese/Korean cheap slave labor.
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>>85996337
>Japan is the only country capable of good animation
Take your weeb glasses off
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>>85996337
>Japan is the only country capable of good animation.
You IRL.
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>>85997448
Because Hank has been their friends since high school and has learned to deal with it. Strangers who do weird shit he gives the stink eye to. And look what happened to Bill when he dressed in his ex-wive's clothing: everyone stared and laughed at him. Hank tried to snap him out of it, when he couldn't, he dressed up alongside him to help out his good friend and get the attention away from him. But regardless, there WAS attention and negative staring that if it happened in somewhere like NYC or LA wouldn't have had a single head turn.
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>>85985066

Wow, who cares?
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>>85998055
Why would he make friends with them in the first place if he has such a problem with weird shit?
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>>85996337
As an American I can safely say with 100% honestly that the french are the best animators in the world you fucking weeb shit.
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>>85998352
Dale was the only weird one as a kid. The others were fine. Bill was a goddamn proud, buff, American soldier. I don't know why they became friends with Dale, but either way, in your youth, you can be way more accepting of weird shit than when you get older. Hank even berates teens for doing shit he used to do all the time.
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>>85990378
I'm fucking crying.
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>>85998402
Ouibs are truly superior to weebs.
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>>85999851
>America popularizes animation
>Japan is influenced by them
>France is influenced by Japan
>France becomes the greatest in 2D animation

How did that happen. At least we still have the best CG tech and thanks to Laika, the best stop motion tech.
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>>85986606
>you can still make stories for teenagers in animation
But you sure as fuck can't sell them except to a niche audience of autistic man-babies.
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>>85986606
No such thing as teen animation. There can be teen movies that are not exactly for kids but too stupid for adults, but animation has always been kiddy, family, or adult. The closest thing you have to teen animation is edgy newgrounds crap: for teen by teens.
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Who is best girl and why is it Luna Lovegood?
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These covers are the pretty great, probably the best ones i have scene since the original art
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>>86003664
Even in the movies she was the best even thought she had a smaller role
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>>85987418
I didn't mind the anti war message, it's like his signature. I was just disappointed at how white washed Howl and Soffie were as characters. They were both far too nice.
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>>85990132
Get yourself some Baen Books titles, then, anon.

We do lurid well.
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>>85987418
>Even with Miyazaki's obligatory heavy-handed antiwar crap
Well, to be fair, DW Jones had that in the book, if not QUITE so prominently. Which is weird because she also wrote the Cart And Cwidder series, the first book of which is almost Heinlein levels of "duty, honour, country" and war.

I'd like to see the Honor Harrington series get an anime treatment, frankly. Japs do space opera very well.
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>>85987524
Feh. The school itself is so intrinsically Brit it hurts. It's fucking Eton with less buggery and more gay men.
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>>85995542
>>85991191

And Susan bloody Cooper, don't forget THAT, damn you, Rowling. If you're going to make English magic, at least do it honestly and well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Is_Rising_Sequence
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>>85991297
>However then again the Lord of the Rings had an animated film too and let's be real here if you were to tell people that, a good number of them would be surprised to know that.

Only if you're a filthy fucking millennial. Or, even then, lived under a rock when Cartoon Network was still good. The old Hanna-Barbera LOTR was on all the time.
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J.K. Rowling is the new George Lucas
I would have anticipated a "Rowling Raped Our Childhood" song but then I remembered how Harry Potter fans are PC
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REMINDER
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>>86003995
Nah.
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>>85985110
All I wanted was some animated Song of Ice and Fire.
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>>86005084
This doesn't make any sense because by all counts muggleborns are equal to pure bloods in capability. Hermione was a muggleborn and fucking Voldemort was a half-blood.

Where you get your magic really has no bearing on how well you can use it. Some people are born better than others, but it doesn't seem like it has any correlation with blood purity.
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>>85985110
Hey, at least Netflix is allowing A Series of Unfortunate Events to get a second chance at adaptation and it's shaping up to be pretty good.

>>86003995
>>86005255
There's plenty of good covers. My favorites(in order) are:

>15th Anniversary Covers
>Danish
>Swedish
>Ukrainian
>Digital
>American
>British Kid Editions
>2014 UK Editions(Besides Harry seemingly not aging)

I like the Illustrated Edition covers too, but they're still being made so I can't really place them yet.
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>>86005899
Forgot image
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>>86004316
>they cut out the weedkiller scene
I read the books after watching the movie, and now I get a little sad whenever I watch the movie and see how much good stuff was cut out from it.
Mostly, I'm angry Miyazaki cut out all the references to Howl being Welsh. I wanted to hear Calcifer singing Sosban Fach, damnit.
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I heard dc got the rights to start making potter comics, imagine Morrison or Ellis on a ongoing title.
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>>85990302
I met the kid who played Klaus. He was a cunt
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>>85990250
You realize the books took place in the 70s or 80s right? The epilogue takes place the same year the first book came out.
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>>85997482
Its still a series that sells a ton of books. It has two theme parks. Is getting a spin off movie series. And JK is writing a few more books. Look at the hype the play got just because it was HP. For a series that started almost 20 years ago its still very popular. Might be the millennials Star Wars.
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>>86008253
No, Harry was born in 1980. The books are set in the 90's. The epilogue was set this year, just days ago in fact.
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>>86003995
I'd probably go with the Swedish covers.
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>>85985413
>There are weeaboos out there who think that Howl's Moving Castle is an original animated film
I was reading the book in public and one of my classmates asked me why I was reading the book when there was already the movie.
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>>86008557
I was so surprised when I found this out after watching the last film, not sure why I didn't notice it throughout the books and the films.
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>>86008605
I first heard about the book when I read that it was going to be Studio Ghibli's next movie back in 02 or 03 and decided to read the book. I quite enjoyed it and when the movie came out, I enjoyed that too even if it was different from the book.
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>>86008671
The films made no attempts to convey the timeframe. They even show the destruction of a bridge in Half-Blood Prince that doesn't exist yet at that point in the story.
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>>86008557
That's right, battle of Hogwarts was year the first book was released. Haven't picked up the books in a while. They are all first editions and I'm scared to touch them now.
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>>86005924
>fappi notter
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>>85992593
>And the radio play
That thing is amazing. Still my favourite version of LOTR
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>>85995667
>However if RoTK was made it really would be a lot more well known
They did eventually make a ROTK cartoon though
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>>85995808
>A book series about magically powered steam locomotives when?
The first one came out in 1945
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>>86003664
>Not wanting a sporty ginger waifu

Bonnie Wright was not good casting at all
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>>86005255
Oooh, I didn't realise America got new covers as well. The new British covers are pretty comfy as well. Both are far better than either country's original ones
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>>86006014
>They cut the bizarre parallel universe jaunt into 80s Britain.
To this day I don't understand what the point of that scene was, other than to satisfy DWJ's fetish for magical parallel universes, but as a child it blew my mind.
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>>86005924
>No Finnish covers
You do not know true masterpiece.
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>>86005924
What is that in row 2, because that is pulpy as fuck and it is beautiful
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>>86008557
>The epilogue was set this year, just days ago in fact.
Nope. JKR can't into maths. Epilogue is next year
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>>85990302
You know, she had a lot of chemistry with her brother in that movie. They weren't supposed to be incestuous siblings, but it sure came off that way.
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>>86010277

Really makes it feel like Britain.
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>>86010298
That would be the Danish covers
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>>86010258
Why is the British cover so anime-like?
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>>86010275
I fucking loved all the parallel universe bullshit [spoiler[mostly because I'm a filthy welshman and I love seeing Wales get any mention in my books
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>>86010337
KEK
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>>86005924
>that bottom line
Harry Shota is cute as fuck. Jap doujinshi when?
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>>85995503
The différence is tmnt and transformers fans in the big audience dont actually watch or read the original stuff anymore. HP fans are much more numerous and vocal, and they still consume thé books and movies to this day.
A new version of thz movies will face a big case of not muh
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What I want
>original story by Rowling
>animation by laïka

Although I wonder if she lost her touch. How much of cursed child was actually her? Because that was a mess.
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>>85996889
>As for the suburbs, you have to keep in mind that THE Dursleys were an exaggerated negative stereotype of British suburban families. The phrase "what would the neighbors think?" personified. That's not a big stereotype of American suburbs
This is how I know you've never lived in an American suburb.
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>>86010258
Why does Harry still look eleven in the last two covers?
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They might be better if they were. The movies we ended up getting are just so bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-6GPUtuPk8
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>>85987294
>Does anyone else think life seems super dull after Hogwarts?
Wasn't Hogwarts pretty damn dull for everyone else in the years before and after Harry's time?

When there is not a dark lord constantly scheming to return and use one of the students as their vehicle into the world, I imagine it's more of a typical boarding school only with magic. Sort of how the working world is a typical office only with magic.
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>>86005850
magic probably is some recessive trait. see squibs.
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>>86008605
I've met weeaboos who thought Witchblade was originally an anime that was later adapted in the west.
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>>86010277
So what's the story here? Do Brits look like they have massive snouts to a Finn or something?
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>>86010277
I like how ridiculous they are but theyre not among my favorites.

>>86010298
Danish covers

>>86011182
That needs to happen

>>86011461
Just the basic story was, but John Tiffany helped with the story too.

Jack Thorne wrote the script
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>>85985885
Look at The Seeker: The Dark is Rising and you have your answer
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>>86008578
My nigga
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>>85985066
The story is stupid, so no.
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>>85986474
She made the right choice.
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>>85985633
>Toy Story
> Finding Nemo/Dory
>How To Train Your Dragon
>Frozen
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>>85985633
Most of the top-grossing films this year have been animation.
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>>85987931
Are they making one?
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>>85995927
The shit Mr. Weasley must see on his job. Didn't he once have to fix a bathroom where muggle toilets had been enchanted to spew shit?
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>>86003664
What's going on behind that newspaper?
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>>85986332
>Most of the appeal is the empathy and similarity between you and the characters, animation removes a significant portion of that.
If animation removed empathy then Pixar films wouldn't get nearly the emotional responses they get nowadays
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No point in animating it. So little action and shit tastic fight choreography anyway.

Reminder Alan Rickman is dead and the entire series rested its haunches on his skill in performance.

>>85995927

Swear she picked the dullest character to follow. Harry's a scrub with nothing interesting rattling around his brain. tbqh I'd rather something set in the marauder age or very early hogwarts.

>>85987418

>garbage adaption

It was pretty. It couldn't smash the entire book into a movie, so they just went with making it pretty, and it worked. It's a gorgeous film.
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>>86003664

>cho is a traitorous whore
>ginny is a cunt and coalburner
>hermione is an insufferable cunt
>no other females get screentime

Well duh. Real question: what is best house and why is it Slytherin?
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