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DC doesn't pander, they said. DC is free from political

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DC doesn't pander, they said. DC is free from political stuff, they said.
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>>85963509
>DC doesn't pander
What fucking moron said that?
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>>85963509
They don't in ongoings. That's an OGN, the writer can do whatever the fuck they want.
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DC does pander.
They just do it less than Marvel.
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>>85963509
I don't think anyone ever said that.
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>>85963509
>DC is free from political stuff
Who the fuck has ever said that?
Nigger the comic you posted is a sequel to the fucking DKR, a comic that did politics 30 years ago.
Fuck off retard.
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>>85963509

I could see batman intervening if the cops were beating the shit out of someone- but they're literally just telling him he's being arrested, and he's starting to run away.

Like- what? He's going to attack every cop that someone is running from?
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>>85963550
Exactly. Best post of the month!
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>>85963637
Did the comic compel you to call OP a nigger? Are you.. Are you a racist?!!
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>DC doesn't pander, they said
Somebody post that issue of Batgirl that they edited because people said Babs was transphobic for assuming the female villain was a woman.
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>>85963615
I have seen several people say that in different threads.
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>>85963509
No one said that though. It's just nowhere near as bad.
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>>85963509
You are confusing politics with the feminist agenda. DC has always done politics, they just usually don't do ham fisted mouthpieces where the writers try to push their agendas onto you.
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Superhero comics have always been political, you faggots would know this if you didn't start reading only 2 years ago.
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>>85963746
People were calling for fucking their fucking transphobic heads because she says "But you're a". Oh, I'm sorry, you're surprised by the fact your close male friend wants to be a woman? You are literally worse than Hitler.
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>>85963530
DCucks say it all the time, you should lurk the board more man.
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Nobody without massive bias ever said that.
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>>85963968
>>85963550
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>>85963509
>they
Meaning every idiot who attributed the boost in DC's sales to any factor other than the fact that relaunches always see a boost in sales?
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>>85963961
And after.
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>>85963961
>calling for fucking their fucking
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>>85963981
Mate that argument doesn't apply 3 months later. They also didn't "just" see a boost in sales. Rebirth sold 12 million copies. It's the largest boost in sales comics have seen in a decade.
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>>85963509
Scott Snyder pet Duke Thomas ,
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>>85963658
Yeah this is kind of dumb. Wish there were more context, but I doubt there would be more info in the comic. Basically, don't run away from cops if you don't want to get shot.
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>>85963615
I still don't understand this. If the lasso of truth can't stop mansplaining, does that mean mansplaining isn't wrong?
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>>85964009
>Mate that argument doesn't apply 3 issues later.
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>>85964081
Try 5 issues later. Stay butthurt.
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>>85964074
The lassoo doesn't make you tell the truth; it makes you tell what you believe to be the truth.
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>>85963550
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>>85963509
This would be accurate if the African American youth was threatening the cops while slowly approaching them despite their guns drawn.
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>>85963509
>>85963615
>out of continuity and digital trash
post from relevant books pls
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>>85964097
>Stay butthurt.
Whut.
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>>85964119
And you find that grounds to open fire? Top kek. Every unarmed killing has been because the cops were too fat and trained inadequately. Any 2 cops should be able to nonlethally subdue one civillian. If you can't you should be fired for not keeping yourself up to par in terms of being in shape.
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>>85964105
So if you fool yourself into believing you didn't commit a murder you actually did commit, then what?
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>>85963658
Shooting someone in the back is cowardly
Cops should be held in higher standards
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>>85964148
>Any 2 cops should be able to nonlethally subdue one civillian. If you can't you should be fired for not keeping yourself up to par in terms of being in shape.
Well there we have it folks, the end to female cops. Finally!
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>>85964148
>Implying shooting an armed thug isn't subduing them
Looked pretty subdued to me, and no innocent bystanders got hurt in the process!
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>>85964184
Isn't there a difference between knowing you've performed an action and believing a generalisation about a given group of people?
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>>85964206
Mate I do Kickboxing and there is a female there that I guarantee would knock your ass out in less than 30 seconds.
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>>85964148
>African American walks up shouting that he is going to murder the cops
>the cops ask him nicely to please stop and turn around so they can put handcuffs on him
>African American male gets within arms length, pulls out a gun, and kills both cops
>African American male runs off to brag he just killed a couple of pigs in blue
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>>85964203
The job of the police is to enforce laws, not enforce chivalry.
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>>85964258
So two cops can't take down one unruly criminal?
Pathetic
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>>85964293
Are you falseflagging to make the opposition sound retarded?
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>>85964203
>Shooting someone in the back is cowardly Cops should be held in higher standards

1. depending on the state shooting a fleeing felon is 100% OK
2. there was no indication the cops were going to shoot and Batman just wrecks their shit
3. It plays into the narrative Cops just shoot blacks for no reason and outside of the on incident in Chicago every cop involved death was 100% the black person fault for attacking and/or fighting with the cops.
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>>85964258
Do you know what a taser is? It's this really neat weapon that's standard issue, that can be fired mid range, and completely subdues the individual without killing them! What an amazing invention! Why don't cops carry them? Oh wait....
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>>85964184
You'd be fucking schizophrenic or something, which would probably be apparent to Wonder Woman.
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>>85964279
show me in the law where people should get the death penalty for running away
Also show me where in the law it says that cops are judge jury and executioner

Todays cops are undertrained, they're pathetic
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>>85963509
>DC doesn't pander, they said. DC is free from political stuff, they said.
Nobody said that. They just do it less and better than Marvel.
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All I know is, cops contribute far more good in the country than blacks do.
If they need to kill some blacks, innocent or not (usually not) I'm alright with that.
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>>85964224
Me personally maybe, but every possible citizen? Basically that guy is advocating that all cops need to be Batman level, and for a female it just isn't going to happen.
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>>85963509
Batman has beat up corrupt/bad cops before. If the issue of the day is them viciously gunning down people unnecessarily, then I say it's fair he mix it up with them until good old Jim Gordon reforms the Gotham PD.

I mean, look at year one. the GPD was mostly a giant piece of shit. He was more than justified beating them like rented mules.

Think of this as a socially relevant Year One type of thing. The corruption and misconduct will be ousted when Gordon comes in and gets more influence/becomes Commissioner, and after the current shitheel and Bad Mayor are out.
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>>85964312
No, this would be falseflagging to make the opposition sound retarded.
>>cops can't even use their sweet karate moves to disarm and handcuff the 7' perp without so much as giving the perp a menacing look or saying anything that might hurt his feelings
>pretty pathetic cops you have America, desu
>fufufu
>*sheathes katana*
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>>85964328
So the Joker is immune to the magic lasso? That's pretty crazy.
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>>85964343

>it's okay when DC does it

Well, at least you guys are finally admitting this is how you think.
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>>85964385
>It's okay when X does it

Go back to /v/ and take your console wars with you.
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>>85964329
>show me in the law where people should get the death penalty for running away

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee_v._Garner

When the fleeing felon poses an immediate danger to the public
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>>85963615
Didn't the writer get fired for this?
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>>85964006

Why are the mentally ill so butthurt?
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>>85964407
No? Why would you think that? Steve Liebers wife wrote that and it was a digital only series.
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I don't understand why people don't like polticial issues in comics Consdering that's been a thing since the medium started
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>>85964009
>Rebirth sold 12 million copies.
That's all the Rebirth titles added up. It sounds less impress when you break it down into individual titles.

For comparison, in 1991, X-Men #1 alone sold 8.1 million copies.
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>>85964359
Cops have a multitude of non-lethal tools they can use to even the odds. A good cop is trained to use all these tool and doesn't just automatically shoot someone for being slightly threatening. Cops in other countries have no problems not killing suspects I don't think its impossible for US cops to learn how to better utilize their given tools
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>>85964224
anecdotal evidence doesn't change a wider trend. If that female kickboxer could knock out the average guy in 30 seconds, she could knock out the average chick in like 5.

If there were very strictly enforced, regular fitness tests for cops, without any different scale for men and women, you can be sure that 90% of the cops that would lose their jobs due to failing said physical tests would be women.
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>>85964224
No you don't and no she couldn't

The greatest disservice martial art instructors can do to a woman is tell her she can beat a man in a fight
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>>85964324
What kind of idiot would keep on threatening cops when the cops have guns drawn?

Oh right, the wastes of oxygen known as ganstas..
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>>85963550
I'd say they just don't roll out the carpet and toot their horns for the pandering they do like Marvel does
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>>85964397

Anon, they just said it.
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>>85964445
>>85964447
>people actually believe this

Go to any kind of martial arts gym sometime. I guarantee there are at least 5 teenage girls there that would beat your ass.
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>>85964445
Its a good thing that cops are supposedly trained on how to deal with large suspects without killing them then and a lack of this knowledge would support insufficient training is a problem that should be solved
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>>85964443
Cops in different countries also don't have the same type of violent, usually armed criminals they have in the US. The kind of criminals US cops face in American inner cities would be handled by anti-terror units or SWAT teams in Europe. So obviously these cops are way more on edge. They are basically patrolling the streets of a 3rd world country.
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>>85964447
Well he was talking about me. I could be a cowardly weakling cuck for all you know. At the same time though, I could be a master of Hokuto Shinken with over 300 confirmed kills and a 0% loss rating.
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>>85963509
>>85963615
>2 examples
WHOOOOOOAAAAAAAHHHHHOOOAAAAA SHUT IT ALL DOWN!

Marvel has pages upon pages of pandering examples. Pick up any single Marvel comic printed within the last 5 years and you will find yet another example of pandering. Just last night I saw a panel from a Hyperion comic where some bitch asked him if he was "ace".
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>>85964445
>90% of the cops that would lose their jobs due to failing said physical tests would be women.
I think you're greatly overestimating the number of male cops that would pass strictly enforced physical fitness tests
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>>85964499
>what is sexual dimorphism
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>>85964434
It's because 1. Most wirters can't handel it well and more importantly 2. They don't agree with the message
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>>85964379
Joker is immune to everything. One time Spectre tried to judge him and Joker is so crazy that not only did it not work, it gave him all of Spectre's powers. The literal wrath of God did less nothing to him.
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>>85964016
Black man cannot escape the Yella.
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>>85964531
He may have good tastes in artists but it's likely to get more prevalent with Khouri as an editor.
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>>85964443
We all want a better world.
More cops, more green energy, better healthcare.
But nobody wants to pay for it. Everybody talks about change, but nobody is willing to commit too it.
While corruption and criminals work tireless for there own gain.

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.
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>>85964499
> I guarantee there are at least 5 teenage girls there that would beat your ass.

Maybe it's you who should visit a martial arts gym some time. A real one where they train grappling or full contact sparring. You are delusional as fuck. There is a very good reason why women and men don't compete with each other in martial arts.
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>>85964534

Which varies.

How big is the man?

How big is the woman?

How fit are each of them?

Have they both been in a fight?
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>>85964343
>Nobody said that.
Multiple people have said this.
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>>85964568
I don't understand why everyone here hates Zoe Quinn so much. After all the terrible shit she's said about trans people, you'd think she'd fit right in.
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>>85964579
No American*
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>>85964499
>I guarantee there are at least 5 teenage girls there that would beat your ass.

No you are full of shit first of all most McDojos are total crap.
I taught assault and rape prevention classes for years, there were cops and COs and ex military types all teaching the class and the thing we stressed was "We are not teaching you how to beat a man in a fight, we are teaching you how to survive an attack, disable or disorient your attacker so you can flee to safety" even women with many years of martial arts training loved the class because they realized the bullshit they had been taught.
many were shocked at how unprepared they were to simply being tackled and how much the difference in upper body strength and center of gravity between men and women made.
They would be shocked to learn that the guys we used as aggressors and attackers had little or no fighting training other than being taught how to tackle and sit on people and how futile all their training was.
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>>85964009
That's mostly related to the new cost and release schedule (it's much easier to drop a comic if you wait one month compared to two weeks), since Rebirth has a ton of awful series, either on the art or story department There are also many good series, but it's not like suddenly DC started publishing masterpieces after masterpieces
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>>85963509
Political shit is ok, pandering is not.

Also it's fucking miller.
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>>85964681
How did you know I wasn't an American?
Oh shit, the green energy must have tipped you of, right?
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>>85964660
google gamergate and ignore the top 20 articles
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>>85964695
What if they pander to you or the group your apart of?
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>>85964184
That's a plot point during an arc of the second New 52 Teen Titans comic, the one where they give Wonder Girl her old background

The villain had used her power to convince herself that was doing what she was doing for a good reason, so she was able to trick Wonder Woman's lasso
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>>85964660
same reason you see anons hating muslim women for wearing shorts and smoking despite how much they go on about how immigrants need to acclimatize and integrate into the local culture
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>>85964584
The original point was that the guy said cops should be able to beat everyone in combat, so it would mean that the woman has to have the capability to defeat the strongest man. Obviously this is ridiculous, so weaponry should be allowed, which causes accidents to happen but is still preferable to having all our cops get mowed down.
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>>85963509
Those are both indeed incorrect, but to infer that doing either is somehow inherently wrong is just idiotic, and you're just making yourself look silly if you have to cry about it on a Taiwanese woodblock boatd.
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>>85964531
Wow, you saw some panels posted on 4chan, surely that reflects every single issue made since 2011.
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>>85964755
>same reason you see anons hating muslim women for wearing shorts and smoking

I have literally never seen that even once.
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>>85963509
>Implying that Batman would not be racist against cops, they literally tried to kill him a lot when he started.
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>>85963509

There's no such thing as media free from political stuff.
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>>85964727
Pandering is wrong unless it's for the fans, and not some outside group that doesn't even consume the media pandering to them. That's just a waste of time and energy.

However, pandering to fans can be bad too. That's how you get things like Korrasami and Derpy Hooves becoming canon.
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>All this cop-worship.
Why do self-styled anti-authoritarians always fall over themselves to apologise for agents of the state?
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>>85964807
Different Anon, but it goes on all the time.
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>>85964755
>>85964807
I hate those types of people even if they aren't Muslims. Those people are bad.
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>>85964531
>>85964531
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>>85964833
But Korrasami WAS for the fans, literally no one except the most retarded denizens of Tumblr wanted Mako to get with Korra again...fuck it, the real problem of Korrasami, outside of not being show front and center during the last season, was that you people are contrarians on a fundamental autismal level.
YOU faggots wanted Korrasami a couple of weeks before it happened, but the moment it did it became terrible....fuck you all.
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>>85964427
>Steve Lieber's wife wrote that

Nepotism, not even once.
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>>85964859
>m-maybe we should actually look at facts and be reasonable before we assume that all cops are racist, trigger happy murderers hunting innocent black youths for sport
>cop worship

kek.
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>>85964866
Please continue to post AU examples like those other ones. It makes me laugh at you more. You know she doesn't get blacked in that story right?
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>people are so triggered they are actually DEFENDING corrupt institution like Gotham City police department

Just think about that for a second.
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>>85964879
>it goes on all the time.

Where and why? Are you sure those people complaining about muslim women dressing in skirts and smoking aren't... well... muslim men?
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>>85964906
>But Korrasami WAS for the fans
That's literally what I said in my post though. It's an example of fan pandering gone wrong.
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>>85964905
The mom was right. She's a great role model. Did they ever find a cure for him?
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>>85964531
>>85964531
>>85964531
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>>85964928
She'd been a writer for 10+ years before that Anon. Leiber doesn't have that kinda pull anyways.
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>>85964981
>>85963615
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>>85964951
I think they're defending real life cops, actually. Comparing cartoons to reality in any way is a bit silly to me.
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>>85964940
How could he have possibly savored it quickly enough to react in such a way? He was already preparing to do that before he even put it in his mouth. What if it ended up bad?
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>>85964951
We don't see any corruption in those panels that would make us assume those cops aren't just doing their job.
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>>85964531
>>85964531
>>85964531
>>85964531
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>>85964324
They got into a lot of trouble a few years back using them everywhere. "Dont taze me bro" and all that.
Ironically, now that they're just as likely to shoot, ae haven't heard about taser incidents.
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>>85964998
in which case they completely miss the context
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>>85965006
It's mayonnaise. It's kinda like Hijikatas schtick.
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>>85964956
Hey that actually makes a lot of sense.
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>>85963961
Man. Dagger Type is such a clever name wasted on Burnside Batgirl...
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>>85964727
Political shit is ok as long as it makes sense with the character:

Green arrow adressing poverty: OK
Batwing and violence in Africa: OK
B'wana beast and the apartheid: OK
Aquaman and contamination of the seas: OK


Superman and BLM: Wrong
Wonder Woman and Man spreading in the subway: Retarded
Flash and trans gen bathroom rights: Retarded
Batgirl and Gamersgate: Wrong
Harley Quinn and donal trump: Absolutly retarded
Batman makes an interesting reading when it tackles wealth distribution and drug problems in gotham. Hawkman fighting Isis in the middle east to save ancient ruins? Great!

But Superman talking about the right of israel to exist or Wonder Woman fighting evul russians in ukraine? Fuck that.


Political comics should be born from storytelling oportunities that are natural for the character and challenge the writer's own political stances, pandering is born from the idea that something is popular among the readers and trying to give confirmation Bias that the character cares about the same stuff.

Propaganda and Pandering are cancer, but political content can be great. Meaby i'm wrong but i really get mad when people confuse pandering with political content
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>>85965007
This is funny. Well now she just lost two friends because they have no reason to interact with her anymore now that she's worthless.
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>>85965020
I know. This thread really looks like a debate between Black Lives Matter and logic-focused thinkers to me.
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>>85965008
It's GOTHAM. Reasonable assumption.
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>>85964425
Because being chronically upset is the only thing they ever have going for them.
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>>85965008
unless it's Gordon ir Crispus, GCPD cop is by default crooked. Even people like Harvey Bullock have done shit like arrange the guy who shot Gordon to get whacked by made men.
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>>85964973
The mom is wrong, it's natural, as in happens in nature, it's not notmal since its not the norm, and is not right, he should kill himself.
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>>85965009
Keep trying. You'll find something valid eventually m8.
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>>85965105
>>85965069
Also, for some reason this post came up twice with a different image both times.
I just dont know anymore.
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>>85964956
>Where and why?
In threads with Muslims, oddly enough.

>Are you sure those people complaining about muslim women dressing in skirts and smoking aren't... well... muslim men?
Are you sure you aren't being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian?
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>>85965110
It's not natural as in it's not proper human nature. The disconnect comes from people using "nature" equivocally.
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>>85964998
>defending real life cops
As if the devil doesn't have enough advocates.
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>>85965078
>>85965084

Yeah, but GCPD corruption is more along the lines of "This italian mob boss has us in his pocket". Not "Hey, let's go shoot some unarmed black kids for fun!" That's not really corruption, that would be just sociopathy.
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>>85963615
>punching someone who can't fight back
You go girl!
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>>85965111
>your only response is "lol keep trying"

I think my point's been proven.
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>>85964660

Despite all our moral shortcomings, /co/ still frowns upon domestic abuse.
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>>85963509

Lets be honest, that's Gotham PD. I'm willing to believe that batman is busting those two for being crooked cops, and the fact that the other guy is even there doesn't ping on his radar.
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>>85965154
Well, cops are being attacked by the mainstream media, the attourney genera and their own fucking president.
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>>85965173
Why are you defending the worst police force in the DC Universe (bar only Hub City, which may not exist anymore)?
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>>85965182
Not the same anon, but I think you're mistaking being inclusive to pandering. DC doesn't do this enough for it to be called pandering.
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>>85965173
GCPD is exactly the type of place where trigger happy beat cops are allowed and encouraged to shoot first, ask questions later.
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>>85965244
Who is encouraging them? Is Gordon not the commissioner in this comic's timeline?
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>>85965066
But one of the most famous periods of Green Lantern history was about caring about poors and blacks together with Green Arrow
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>>85965216
>Hub City
>Actually having a Police Force
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>>85965283
Gordon's long dead, bubba. This is when Bruce is like, ninety.
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>>85965323
It's famous because it was one of the first series to throw them into that type of situation. Hal shouldn't have ever given a shit about that in the first place as he's above "street" shit like that as he's protector of the cosmos, but he got shot by a Qwardian retcon ray trying to save some scientist and it made his will shatter for a few years.
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>>85965228
>inclusive

Nice way to spin "it's okay when dc does it". You elitist faggots impress me every time.
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>>85965323
And that's why that post says that is good. But onw key element of that arc is that O'neil isnt a retard, he actually knows his political shit, he isnt PC or got educated by the daily show. Some writers can do pretty good stuff, Hal was a trigger happy cop in the 70's, hal was also a good guy that is an absolute moron so the green arrow arc was great, but that's not the case for most writers and most characters.

Imagine Johns trying to adress the migration crisis in europe using shining knight or Loeb doing the same with Captain atom and the Venezuelan crisis.
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>>85965402
I dont actually even much like or watch Marvel.
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>>85964184
If the lasso of truth made you tell the absolute truth, it could be used to solve all the mysteries of the universe. Just tie someone up and have them rant about whatever topic you want to know about.

The other way is far less slippery. It doesn't make someone know something they previously didn't
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>>85965215
It's a start.
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>>85964206
Cops have tasers, nightsticks, handcuffs, and pepper spray for a reason
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>people wanting a reason to get mad SO BAD they are upset Gotham PD is shown as garbage
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>>85965460
You can't trust most of that stuff with niggers on drugs
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>>85963509
the difference is that it's not drawn by an incompetent pink haired fatty that would struggle getting people to watch her shit on deviantart
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Shut the fuck up white male fuckers.

You don't know what oppression is.

Notice how no one speaks up that in 60's DC straight up white washed Blue Beetle.
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>>85965460
And guns.
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>>85963509
>the man don't need a reason
>dindu noffin
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>>85965453
Towards anarchy? Yes it is you murderer & rapist supporting mother fucker.
Burn in the darkest depths of hell.
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>>85965154
Did a mean fascist cop tell you that you couldn't skateboard in the mall Trevor?
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>>85964515
Police in the US are also stuck dealing with a bunch of incredibly conceited and pandered little shits with a rampant sense of entitlement.

I had a neighbor once who tried to literally force his way into my front door because I was "in his parking spot" (our townhouse complex didn't have assigned parking and the idiot just claimed the closest spot was his. Also: he didn't own a car, and I had lived there longer) My front door was all bashed up and he had thrown a rock through my window, and then stomped in my windshield later on that night. Cops came by and couldn't do shit, because he was in his house, pretending to not be home.

So shoot these toxic pieces of shit, police. Please do it. Fuck Batman, society needs your help.
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>>85964981
Don't hit him so hard, you'll get straw EVERYWHERE, beating on your stupid strawman like that.
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>>85964427
How could a woman that uses the term mansplaining ever marry a man? He would never be able to tell her anything or have an opinion because he is a man. He must be the most miserable man on earth.
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>>85964343
>less and better than Marvel.
Every girl Batman encounters is bi or lesbian.
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>>85965486
>>>85965460
>You can't trust most of that stuff

This.

PCP, bathsalts, crack, etc, etc. Tasers might work, and you have to get within lunging range to try it. Pepper spray is even worse, and do YOU want to go into melee with some cannibalistic freak on bathsalts?

A 10mm to center of body mass solves all those issues immediately.

That said, there are some cops who shouldn't be trusted with a gun, ever, for any reason. Get those fucks off the force.
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>>85964866
>Wonder Woman raped a defenseless black man
OUTRAGE!
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>>85965795
>How could a woman that uses the term mansplaining ever marry a man?

She's bisexual Lieber on the other hand is a pretty cool dude. Comes here every so often to talk about cons and his new books.
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>>85963509
/pol/ fuck off seriously your shitposting is getting old real fast
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>>85965795
The concept of mansplaining is more about how they explain things.
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>>85963509
Im having flashbacks to the movement comic
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>>85964279
>The job of the police is to enforce laws
Something the American police is really bad at doing
>>85964258
>the cops ask him nicely to please stop and turn around so they can put handcuffs on him
>Cops are arresting someone for expressing his first amendment right
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>>85964531
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>>85965756
>Police in the US are also stuck dealing with a bunch of incredibly conceited and pandered little shits with a rampant sense of entitlement.
So, themselves?
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>>85966018

I think they're talking about the people who rush to the defense of dead violent wife-beaters. But only when they're black and try to assault a police officer.
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>>85965433
That is his point.
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>>85966068
He means Americans
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>>85966018
Shut up Trevor
Skateboarding IS a crime when you do it on private property and you are told to stop.
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>>85965009

D'awwww
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>>85964866
Black Steve turns her down real badly though so there's no evil big black bull white girl sex

>>85964905
Wait so gay black guys also trigger you?

>>85964981
This was so shit, I agree, but in the end they cancelled it for a reason and it never went beyond a shitty digital sales. DC did try to experiment with the SJW crowd but they knew it was shit.

>>85965007
This has been done even with gay men turning down women, nothing new

>>85965009
I guess anything besides a white man and a white woman would be panderinf to you.

Beside the Sensation Comics example this isn't anything DC hasn't been doing since the 80's. Gaiman had a trans character in Sandman, The Authority and Infinity Inc had gay men. There was Renee Montoya, Maggie Sawyer and later Batwoman.

All of that before the SJW were even a thing.

There was Sir Ystine in Demon Knights who might have been a hemaphrodite but the SJW never touched or acknowledged that comic.

Does DC pander? Hell yeah they started pandering to Wallyfags, Legionfags nostalgiafags etc... But they been writing about regular fags and race for a long ass time.

Have they pandered specifically to the SJW though? They did with Sensation Comics by hiring mostly womem who didn't have much experience in comics and some older women writers (one of them who pissed off the SJWs) and they also had Batgirl of Burnside as well.

But surprise surprise both titles are gone (Sensation was nostly digital anyway and at least DC had the sense not to put that trash in the regular WW title although they had another shit writer at the time)

But really out of the shit I just reply only Sensation is SJW pandering, everything else has been nothing new for DC.

Also at least DC has characters being annoyed by Ollie's liberal attitude, and some right wing and conservative heroes that they don't ridicule, hell they have Rorschach and Comedian both characters that are loved by liberalfags, especially Rorschach just fucking look at his tumblr tag.
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>>85964660
such as?
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>>85966018
more like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zHRQn_IShw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuVMz50H4KY
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>>85964006
>>85963961
Remember when trannies threw a bitchfit about Airboy, and they ended up having to change the dialogue in the trade because of it?
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>>85966117
>Also at least DC has characters being annoyed by Ollie's liberal attitude, and some right wing and conservative heroes that they don't ridicule

I've read almost every single DC comic book since Flashpoint. This hasn't happened once.
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>>85965007
That's actually pretty funny.
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>it's another /pol/ shitposting thread

People complain about Tumblr on here but it's /pol/cucks are the ones making the threads
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>>85965066
>Superman and BLM: Wrong

Why is that wrong? Do you know anything about Superman?
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>>85966117
bend me over and call me nenncy
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>>85966250
And they bring their sacred cows with them.
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>>85966254
yes he does and I don't think sups would side with idiots calling for all prisons to shot down or for dead cops. did you read the demands list?
>>85965066
>Batgirl and Gamersgate: Wrong
what about batgirl and revenge porn sites
>Harley Quinn and donal trump: Absolutly retarded
what about loki running for prez
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>>85966272

Oh god, why
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>>85966117
>hell they have Rorschach and Comedian both characters that are loved by liberalfags
You mean libertarians (or propertarians).
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>>85966174
But on the other hand

https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/6915773/DOJ_Baltimore_Police_Department.0.pdf
>One African- American man in his mid-fifties was stopped 30 times in less than
four years. The only reasons provided for these stops were officers’ suspicion that the man was “loitering” or “trespassing,” or as part of a “CDS investigation.” On at least 15 occasions, officers detained the man while they checked to see if he had outstanding warrants. Despite these repeated intrusions, none of the 30 stops resulted in a citation or criminal charge.
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>>85966347
Why not?
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>>85966324
>I don't think sups would side with idiots calling for all prisons to shot down or for dead cops.
>Black people are a hivemind
>BLM is one group of people

Okay bro.
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>>85965938
It's a sexist way of saying someone's being condescending and even then some people misuse it to mean "a man explaining anything to me."
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>>85966324
Do you even rules for radical bro? It's all noise just to get and direct attention towards the shit they actually want to talk about.
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>>85965066
>Superman and BLM: Wrong
The same Superman who forced a corrupt mine-owner to experince life in the mine and an arms manufacturer to experience life on the front? Sounds perfectly consistent.
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>>85966347
old news
>>85966372
2 characters have nothing in common and maybe its better not to hook up everyone with everyone. maybe its better to have iconic romances instead of x men style clusterfuck
>>85966388
BLM are not gamergate or some other leaderless organization. its a clear moment with leaders, demands and even some soros funding. maybe you are not up to date or something
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>>85966372
Because Peeg's tits are too small.
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>>85966254
Yes, more than you apparently, the BLM is a retarded movement that makes no sense, superman could care about illegal mexicans, but not about a dumb movement of retards.
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>>85965938
which often can be subjective and in the idea of beholder while being known as a mansplaner in your social group can have negative results
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>>85966456
>Clear movements with leaders
Wrong. It's nothing more than a hashtag.
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Does someone have the link to that thread where some guy posted like 30 pages of pandering from marvel? I don't remember the subject.
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>>85966456
They both own companies and Peej was just using him for sex and tech to get back home.
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>>85966479
>makes no sense
The disenfranchisement of black Americans make no sense either.
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>>85966456

Please name those leaders for the uninformed among us.
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>>85966452
>>85966452
And you think those things are comparable?
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>>85966371
yep, when there is a disproportionate amount of crime coming from 1 area some profiling maybe wise. all the rioting and disrespect does not help things. also different states have different cops
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DC tried the SJW pandering but they shitcanned the titles that were SJW pandering and quarantined Benett to Bombshellls (and they didn’t back from that even after the mini shitstorm about Benett not being in WW).

DC has always been doing stories about gay people, women issues, and black people issues at a time where Marvel only had one female title and SJW and tumblr weren't even a thing.

The difference between Marvel and DC is that Marvel goes to the View to advertise their shit and they pat themselves in the back about it for being oh so progressive.

They have SJW after SJW writer and artist and the titles failed but they keep putting new ones. They fucking brought that shit poem writer to Blacl Panther because she's a black woman and made a big deal about it when years before that DC had already hired a black woman, who had years of experience writing for TV, to write Teen Titans and they didn’t make a spectacle out of it.

Hell the DCYOU staff was more diverse than Marvel's mostly white people staff and they didn't advertise their talent as being diverse or pointed to their gender, race or anything, they let them speak for themselves.

And yeah the SJW didn’t notice because surprise surprise the SJW don't fucking really care about diversity unless it caters to their fetishes, agenda and victim complex with most of them being bored rich white girls and white Knight white boys trying to feel important.

That said DC is not perfect and they have their shit but they never were bad about SJW pandering like Marvel who are already losing so much money because of it and because people are tired of Bendis.
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>>85964866

Man, the part where she revealed her bondage kinkiness in that book was gold.
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>>85966494
Which is a terrible character arc for her. I hate how Huntress and Power girl were Earth 2 refugees cause it's fucking shit right off from the gate.
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>>85964006

Is this edit real?
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>>85966519
Yes.
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>>85966534
>also different states have different cops
Yes

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/24/chicago-police-detain-americans-black-site
>The Chicago police department operates an off-the-books interrogation compound, rendering Americans unable to be found by family or attorneys while locked inside what lawyers say is the domestic equivalent of a CIA black site.
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>>85966452
sups that grew up on a farm, respecting authority. sups that rebuild the same factory after it blew up instead of making eco friendly. yep I don't think this sups would be with blm
>>85966510
go read for yourself
https://policy.m4bl.org/
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>>85965036
More like Dagger Trap.
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>>85966505
The police brutality is a reaction to the Black population tendencies of both being overly violent and general inclination to crime.
BLM gives no answers and doesnt face the problem. The police is an authoritarian institution that isnt needed in a civilized world, But American society is fucked up.

Why would Superman care about BLM when he knows both police rections and protests are symptoms of much bigger issues?
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>>85966494
>They both own companies
that sounds more idiotic than "they both have lighting powers". its ok if you ship it but don't pretend that its good
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>>85965083
They're like Anon in that respect.
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>>85963961
I like this one because it makes Dagger a sassy queen.
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>>85966610
>overly violent and general inclination to crime.
In the nineteenth century, this is exactly what the bourgeoisie said about the white working class.
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>>85966591
let me guess. its blacks only? given how unconstitutional that would be I question the plausibility of such claims
>theguardian
ah the same site that has articles about how democracy is garbage or how there is an incestuous mom and daughter couple that want to be married.
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>>85966610
>the police brutality is a reaction
Now it's a not, it's a clear example of abuse in authority.
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>>85963509
I actually like this
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>>85966610
>BLM gives no answers and doesnt face the problem.
it gives retarded answers. hoteps maybe to hung up on the "we were kings" and are black focused to a racist level(self interest is not bad but it does not look good from the outside)
but they at least have workable suggestions
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>>85966695
Ooh what radicals.
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>>85966666
>Well, I can't actually find anything wrong with the article, so I'll just dismiss it on the basis of some other articles.
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>>85966666
>its blacks only?
No, but mostly blacks.

But that's what catches your attention? Not the fact that the police has a something that's the same as a CIA black site? Not the fact that the police has something that rapes the fourth amendment up the ass

I thought you Americans cared about your amendments.
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>>85966738
Ooh, what passive-aggressive bitchiness.
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>>85966579
One issue has one side that in the absolute wrong, where one single guy is the evil guy and that can be solved by superman fairly easily.

The other is a mess product of decades of social decline and failed integration, where there's no single bad guy or anything superman can do.

You are a retard
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>>85966658
except its true. you could blame it on race or socio economics and the fall of the family unite (its most likely not race) but its undeniable that its happening
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>>85966673
its not abuse when you are being an uppity cunt and they won't take your shit.
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>>85966666
>there is an incestuous mom and daughter couple that want to be married

That sounds pretty hot
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>>85966272
There are way more white woman and white man couples than interracial, and again interracial coupled have always been a thing since the 80's even in Marvel. Why are you triggered? That says more about your insecurity than anything

>>85966231
Maybe because New 52 Ollie hasn't really been liberal until recently in Rebirth

>>85966368
True, although Rorschach does have some conservative values though and goes against a lot of SJW principles.

Comedian tried to rape a woman and he killed a pregnant womam and he gets love from a lot of tumblr SJWs which I find hilarious.
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>>85966762
If you say so.
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>>85965007
Source? Reverse image search doesn't work.
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>>85966695
Who's the one voicing that. Wondering since BLM seems to like a particular head nationally.
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Marvelfag here, no DC fan has ever said that.
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>>85966868
see >>85966594
here https://policy.m4bl.org/
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>>85966695
>>An end to capital punishment.

Doesnt solve their issues and more important isnt their solution, is something that is a reality in every first world country

>>An end to money bail, mandatory fines, fees, court surcharges and “defendant funded” court proceedings.

Retarded

>>The demilitarization of law enforcement, including law enforcement in schools and on college campuses.

Absolutly stupid. Take Chile, a third world country i south america that is SAFER than America thanks to their highly militarized police, that also means NO PRIVATE POLICE, jails etc.

>>An immediate end to the privatization of police, prisons, jails, probation, parole, food, phone and all other criminal justice related services.

That is great, but you know what? it doesnt solve the problem: blacks commit more crimes, all what they ask here is better rights for the criminals, something i agree but doesnt solve anything

>>A reallocation of funds at the federal, state and local level from policing and incarceration (JAG, COPS, VOCA) to long-term safety strategies such as education, local restorative justice services, and employment programs.

You can't fix the problems in nigger communities with more money, the ammerican educational system is a total mess and the only solution for the past 40 years had been trow money at it. You idiots waste 16 times more money on education to get the same score results as your average poor european and several times more to get lesser results than asians.


>>A cut in military expenditures and a reallocation of those funds to invest in domestic infrastructure and community well-being.

Something that is actually a good idea. But for them translates into Gibe me.
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>>85966222
>Remember when trannies threw a bitchfit
you mean young white boys and girls with first world problems?

Most trannies don't shit their pants at shit like that. They worry more about how little is done helping them in the day to day world.

Armchair activists helping those poor helpless people by stopping non issues like what a comic book with a readership in the thousands have rather than actually getting of their asses and doing something real in helping others.

Sorry I'm just getting real tired of these narcissist idiots thinking censorship does any good in the world.
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>>85966901

Chile has two police forces, and has tons of corruption issues within them.
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>>85966771
It all comes down to the unstunning fact that people living in poverty are more likely to turn to crime to keep themselves afloat than people who are wealthy, for reasons that are generally lost on the wealthy.
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>>85966695
>“defendant funded” court proceedings
court is paid for by the state. you only pay for the lawyer and if you don't have money for one you get one for free.
>An end to money bail
Why? you get the bail money back, if you don't break the rules. would you prefer house arrest or jail?
>capital punishment.
What does death penalty have to do with anything?
>The demilitarization
They said defunding, not demilitarization. as we can see here
>A reallocation of funds at the federal, state and local level from policing and incarceration
people bitch about how cops don't have enough area coverage and can't get to locations on time but you want them to have less money for training and hiring?
>incarceration
so jails should be shit? What will you do with all the people that are there? oh and lets not forget "community oversight" which will end up with cops too afraid to do their job because oversight people and the criminals are from the same hood
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Remember when Peggy Carter got blacked?
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>>85966901
>thanks to their highly militarized police
Wait you want your police to walk around with military grade hardware?
>blacks commit more crimes
Yeah about that, it's been proven at this point that the police will jail blacks for crime they wouldn't jail a white person for. It's also a fact that many blacks go to jail for drug related crimes, like getting 10 years for smoking weed.

Then as the Baltimore report shows sometimes they will make shit up or frame blacks for crimes.
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>>85966739
implying I even clicked it
>>85966752
The story is made up. If such thing was possible guantanamo would have been in ohio
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>>85966947
And it triggered the Red Skull?
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>>85966926
And that current dream of Federalizing the Police would only worse corruption and make them even less accountable.
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>>85966944
>so jails should be shit
They aren't already?
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>>85966947
>Welcome to the flood
Surprised it's not shooped into
>Welcome to the hood
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>>85966752
>I thought you Americans cared about your amendments.
>not even American
>thinks he can talk about US cops
How about you go live in those states for few yes and then tell me your ideas on cops and gun control. Do you think Russia is anti gay?
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>>85966953
>Yeah about that, it's been proven at this point that the police will jail blacks for crime they wouldn't jail a white person for

It most certainly has NOT been proven you fucking lying piece of shit.

Go to a poor white neighborhood and walk around no problems
Go to a poor black neighborhood and walk around PROBLEMS
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>>85965982
You don't have a First Amendment right to threaten other people.
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>>85966927
yep so when some black girl jacks a car and gets eaten by crocodiles the narrative should not be "its not theft because keys were still in the car" or some shit like that. We must look into the upbringing and see what could have been changed with compulsory social programs/education
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>>85966916
>That image
Why is it that right-wingers always apply this "taxation at gunpoint" rhetoric to government welfare but not state military spending?
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>>85966953
>Wait you want your police to walk around with military grade hardware?
No, i want the police to be instructed as the military, highly professional, highly dedicated to the community, country wide the same.

militarization isnt just what they use to beat your ass, it's also the education they have. Police work should be more than a job.
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>>85966991
Red Skull is a true hero. even steve sees it now I know it was a ruse but just roll with it
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>>85966965
>There are no gas chambers. They're putting them on trains to ship them abroad.
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>>85966953
>Yeah about that, it's been proven at this point that the police will jail blacks for crime they wouldn't jail a white person for.
yeah sure they would. lies like that is how you end up with British cops who are unable to do their job out of fear of being called racist
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>>85966965
Come back once you read the article
>>85966999
>Do you think Russia is anti gay?
To a certain degree yes but not in the way that the media is painting it
>>85967010
http://www.twincities.com/2016/07/13/st-anthony-police-data-shows-disproportionate-arrests-of-blacks/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/true-crime/wp/2016/08/10/excerpts-from-the-justice-departments-report-on-practices-of-the-baltimore-police-department/
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>>85967049
Because they don't consider many of these welfare programs part of the Constitutional duties of the federal government while maintaining a military is.
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>>85966139
Cancelling a charity women's game programming contest transgender women entered and they aren't real women, doxxing a 15 year old transgender kid because as a former male, she was inherently misogynistic, publicly outing a bunch of transgendered people, that time she glassed a transgender woman for talking about her transition. She's kind of a massive cunt.
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>>85967035
Yes you do, just like radical speech is protected by the first amendment.
>>85967108
oh for fuck sake are you really that stupid and guidable, did you really believe that sorry excuse? Are you so stupid that you can't see that they were doing a incredibly shitty job to cover up the fact that they were taking bribes?
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>>85967120
So based Zoe was the good guy all along?
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>>85967111
This muh per capita shit again. Just because African Americans disproportionately commit these crimes, doesn't mean the system is out to get them.
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>>85967038
Poverty has zero to do with upbringing. This is the same woolly thinking that surveyed the London East End in 1888 and concluded that the real problem was that there were too many public houses and not enough churches.
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>>85967049
Way to entirely miss the point you ignorant libtard
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>>85966575
Yes. They went through and changed every single reference to gender. Including one page where it originally said something like "You go girl" and they changed it to "Awww yeah, make sure you get lots of series"
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>>85967115
Absolutely fucking destroyed.
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>>85967082
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>>85967049
Short answer is everyone can give and help others to some degree
Military? Not so much unless you make it mandatory that all citizens join the military for 2 year service
Then you could cut back on spending
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>>85967111
>To a certain degree yes but not in the way that the media is painting it
well its the same with US cops, gun laws and many other things
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>>85967145
Radical political speech is protected but telling someone you're going to kill them is not protected speech, especially if you're marching towards an officer who has a weapon drawn and declaring you're going to kill him.
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>>85967115
So what?
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>>85967217
The thing is that justice is supposed to be blind, which it certainly isn't in America.
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>>85965756
You're supposed to shoot them when they do stuff like this. Police don't have teleportation devices so you have to defend yourself of it happens. Police are mostly the clean-up crew.
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>>85966575
yeah, it's changed in the TPB
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>>85967049
Because what stops you from giving? What stops you from helping others?
You are asking the government to play daddy and mommy for everyone but demand everyone pay into it.
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>>85964660
Her sins are to grate great. + I don't mind the trans people as long as they are actually transitioning and understand 1.not everyone will be comfortable with having sex with them 2. they should not hide their previous state from their sexual partners. I only hate the gender fluid,etc crowed
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my only question desu is how he had time to pull out his phone and take pictures
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>>85967235
So that's the biggest factor here
As a government they need to focus on the county as the forest not the trees
The people need to be focusing on the trees not the forest.

that would lead to a better operation of money used and people receiving help

but humans are selfish brats on both sides so we just have a forest fire and everyone is to busy pointing figures.
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>>85967174
>>85967214
http://democracyjournal.org/magazine/32/the-voluntarism-fantasy/
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>>85967255
>>85967323

>>85967344
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>>85967301
The spirit of the electric jew moved through him
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>>85967217
Look it's one thing when the media does a report on it. But a completely different thing when the FBI and justice department does it
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>>85964866
That's the opposite of pandering. He took the strong black male stereotype and made him Diana's bitch toy.
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>>85966231
>>85966826
Isn't the Question supposed to be a conservative or am I imagining that?
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>>85963509
Batman hates bad cops almost as much as Gordon. Now Gordon would have raped them in the ass.
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>>85967344
Explain the countries that don't have that then doing fine

Also that link is focused on healthcare which has gotten worse now thanks to that forced hand demanding everyone has to payout because what a shock, the greedy business still didn't want to lose money to help them so they cut staff, cut availability for employment, and raise prices.
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>>85967451
We're talking about people, not countries. A country can "do fine" while the poor go to the wall.
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>>85966272

If you guys would read the comic would know that Power Girl after getting stranded in the main universe became a huge slut who constantly thought of riding cocks, and that she used Mister Terrific with her pussy game in hopes that he'd know how to get her back to her original universe, which is what happened.

The whole point was that Power Girl was a slut who used her body to get back to her original universe by using Mister Terrific, a grieving widow.
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>>85967441
Ditko's Question was libertarian.
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>>85967530
and that is good?
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>>85967562
US Libertarianism is essentially right-wing.
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Serious question here, do capeshit threads EVER get deleted for being political bait? It seems to happen frequently with cartoon threads.
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>>85967604

I don't know. But to be honest Power Girl wouldnt't fuck just black men. She would fuck white men, Asian men, Latino men, Alien men, Women with penises and so on.
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>>85967530
Man Peeg, that's kind of a shitty thing to do.
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>>85967613
US libertarians don't want to kick people out of their respective country like European conservatives want to. American conservatives do tho.
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>>85966272
Is Mr. Terrific wearing lipstick?
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>>85967668
Libertarians are fags.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xlmU9LvtAs
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>>85967668
The attitude towards poverty is exactly the same, though. There also tends to be the same high degree of cop worship, since they regard the police as the great defenders of property.
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>>85967714
>those comments
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I actually like the idea that Nu52 Power Girl grew up a sheltered life due to being the daughter of Superman in the Earth-2 universe and that when she found herself stranded in the main Prime-Universe alone and free for the first time in her life she decided to open her legs to any men basically treating her stay there as a long Spring Break.
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>>85967714
Libertarians don't actually care about immigrants for humanitarian reasons: they just view them as a source of cheap labour, and a means of driving down wages in their own country.
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>>85967782

DC basically made all the fan arts and fan comics where PG is a major big titty slut canon.
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>>85967716
My point is just that American conservatism is like European conservatism. It's not like European conservatives are a reasonable version of American conservatives or straight up libertarians.
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>>85964722
Because Green energy for the most part is a scam. Unless it's hydro.
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>>85967873
>solar and wind aren't renewable
U fuking wot m8?
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>>85967714
>>85967762
As a non-American, non-English-as-first-language anon, what does PC stand for?
I keep reading it as basically a synonym to SJW, but for basically all my life it just stand for personal computer
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>>85967865
>It's not like European conservatives are a reasonable version of American conservatives
I know plenty of European conservatives who consider a mixed economy and state healthcare essential to the wellbeing of the populace. In the US, they'd be considered Marxists and devil-worshippers.
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>>85967829
And it was a major victory for feminism because she lost the boob window.
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>>85967929
Politically incorrect.

coloured people = politically incorrect, apply for a /pol/ membership you racist
people of colour = politically correct, apply for a low-paying job at Starbucks or some such place
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>>85967929
"Political correctness", one of the big bogeymen of the Right:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_correctness
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>>85967929
Politically correct
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>>85967911
He means you spend millions of dollars on something that can run a few toasters when the conditions are right.

I exaggerate but that's the core of it.
Too expensive for few results
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>>85967562
Regardless, have they kept his political stances or changed them? If GA stays liberal, Question should stay whatever he was.
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>>85967911
People on bicycle powered generators are renewable too, being renewable doesn't mean you can power any decent sized country with them though.
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>>85968015
>People don't change over time.
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>>85967929
Politically correct.
Something PC is something that's not racist, sexist, ableist or any sort of other discrimitory
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>>85967982
>>85967992
>>85967995
I could have probably got there myself yet I couldn't
Thanks, anons
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>>85966539
Coates (Black Panther writer) is a man not a woman. Shows how much you know.
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>>85966916

That image is such melodramatic bullshit.

There will never be enough soup kitchens and donations to the red cross stop as soon as the latest big disaster's coverage trickles down. Nobody gives enough of a fuck about the homeless or underemployed or starving children to help them on an institutional level. Thus, government steps in. It's been this way since the Great Depression, because people were fucking dying and the rich responded with some bread and soup lines.

Charity is a great thing. So is compassion. I'm proud to pay taxes to help lift up my fellow Americans, pay for education, protect our environment, keep our troops armed, all that shit.
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>>85968095
or googled it like "What does PC mean" first result
PC
piːˈsiː/
noun
1.
a personal computer.
"you can download the software on to your PC"
abbreviation
1.
BRITISH
a police constable.
"PC Bartholomew made his report"
2.
politically correct; political correctness.
adjective: PC
"PC language"
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How new can you be? Its a staple of Batman that the cops not under Gordan are pretty much corrupt to the bone.

Are you really so fucking stupid to think corrupt cops might also be bad people with little quarm about shooting first?

8/10 bait. Heres your >>85963509
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>>85968093
>Something PC is something that's not racist

Are you stupid?
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>>85966752
>I thought you Americans cared about your amendments.

Havent been here in a while have you?

Merica aint America no more.
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>>85968273
She can't have AIDS
Ruka has shown me that she's far too perfect, powerful and pure for something as little as HIV to be able to defeat her
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>>85968290
That's literally what it means.
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>>85968060
Well for balance purposes yeah. Unless you want Superman to be a super-conservative.
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>>85968361
No you idiot. What is PC now isnt the same as what was PC 15 years ago, and what is PC in your country isnt PC in other.

Fucking /co/mblr
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>>85968273
is it so crazy to think that not every cop not under gordan would be a murderer?
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>>85968015
GA isnt liberal, or at least shouldnt be, he was fine being anarchist with socialist tendencies, not your standard american "liberal"
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>>85968361
Racism could be politically correct.It means having social adaptable views and not challenging them
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>>85968361
It was politically correct to make black people sit at the back of the bus and drink from separate fountains at one point.
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>>85968403
Bro if you Google political correct it even says one of the synonyms is "nondiscriminatory"
The hell do you think PC means?
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>>85967668
>American conservatives do tho.

Point of order: If America wanted to kick anybody out of their country, any country at all, we'd have done it already and there's not a damn thing anybody could do to stop us.

The hard fact is, America doesn't give a shit about the rest of you fucks, aside from using you for cheap labor and struggling to suppress our annoyance at you so we don't fucking kill the lot of you.
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>>85968015
O'Neil's Question really didn't get into it and everyone's followed suit then. New 52 Question isn't even Vic Sage, and Vic Sage was just a meddling editor stand-in in Suicide Squad who ended up arrested for treason.
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>>85968455
And Americans also think lefty and liberal are synonims.
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>>85968405
How many issues of batman center around the cops shooting innocents and being untrustworthy.

Now compare how many issues do.

When you stop playing tumbler jr. maybe you will realize how much of a faggot you are being.

Hell you'd have a bigger point of how bat-man constantly portrays straight white males as being idiots at their job who can't guard a fucking prison or do anything without a guy dressed up in a bat costume.
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>>85968361
It's what it means to the Right, despite the fact that right-wing political correctness is a thing.
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>>85968555
Are you saying that gordan's dick sucking is not cartoonsih?
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>>85968432
>he was fine being anarchist with socialist tendencies, not your standard american "liberal"
Bear in mind most Americans think "liberal" and "socialist" are synonyms.
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>>85968499
>New 52 Question isn't even Vic Sage

Glad I didn't read that trash then. So much of New52 is bad, what's good in it? Superman had a couple of good stories of I recall correctly.
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>>85968499
>O'Neil's Question really didn't get into it and everyone's followed suit then.
Didn't O'Neil's Question go Buddhist and quit smoking?
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>>85968555
Gotham WAS a white mostly city before new52.

I really hate how now it seems to be pretty much new york.

I reelly hope Gotham can go back to be it's own city instead of reflecting bullshit real world cities.
Gotham should be mostly irish, italian, polish, russian, chinese and jap with just a tiny black and "latino" population.
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>>85963509
>The other company is doing it too you see I got proof
And?
What does this achieve?
DC also panders. Whoopidido, what are you gonna do, stop reading DC?
>implying you were reading DC to begin with and not just assblasted from another Marvel thread
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>>85968792
>stop reading DC?

You can stop buying. It's always a good idea.
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>>85965009
Wiccan and Hulking are cute! CUTE!
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>>85966916
>if we stop making laws to help people, then the rich will start helping them
>even though that has literally never happened in the history of forever

libertarians are literally retarded
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>>85963509

>the man dont need a reason

Translation: "I robbed a liquor store and then made for the police officer's gun when he tried to arrest me."
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>>85968405
>is it so crazy to think that not every cop not under gordan would be a murderer?

Have you seriously never read a Batman comic before?

LITERALLY one of the most consistent facts is that almost every single cop is corrupt as fuck.
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>>85968897
To bad they're a shit.
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>>85965402
inclusive = gay character

pandering = gay character beating up homophobes and preaching about how it's okay to be gay while doing so
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>>85968705
>I really hate how now it seems to be pretty much new york.

It's New Jersey.
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>>85968931
I'm so happy there's no blacks in my country
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>>85968955
Gay characters shouldn't exist except as villains. Because they're morally bankrupt.
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>>85968958

It's in new jersey, it's not new jersey.
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>>85963509

>comics JUST STARTED pandering TODAY, this has not been clearly happening the whole fucking time comics have been around!

here have a picture of a superhero based off the the fucking american flag, punching Hitler in the face. hope it's too political for you.
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>>85969259
That's PROPAGANDA
Not panderism.

Fucking retard

>>85965066
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>>85968955
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So would Superman move BLM protestors out of the way if they were messing up traffic for no reason? I think he would.
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>>85969308
>messing with someone's freedom of speech
Someone call Batman.
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>>85969308
Yeah, that's kinda shitty. A smart writer would've just had Bunker ignore the guy.
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>>85969308
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>>85969308
>Superheroes physically threatening regular people

>because they found what they're saying offensive

What terrible fuckign writing. Heroes aren't allowed to act heroic when there's "bigots" around.
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>>85969283


>Pandering is the act of expressing one's views in accordance with the likes of a group to which one is attempting to appeal.


>Propaganda information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view:

boy it's like night and day!
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>>85969461
You really don't see the difference?
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Since when has Batman NOT been against corrupt cops? We all know corrupt cops exist. Gotham PD had an entire arc about it that led to Renee Montoya's downfall and alcoholism. Are corrupt cops only okay to acknowledge when it's in Serpico or when it's in cool old school NYC Italian films and not today's shit?

Batman literally constantly beats the shit out of thugs and hoodrats and petty criminals and low-lives all of the time and sends them off to prison. He also beats up mentally ill people and sends them to mental health facilities to hopefully be rehabilitated. Why would he not beat up cops sometimes? It's not like he does it on a regular basis.
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>>85968974
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51vFbsZkhXU
:)
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>>85969318
I don't see why not. If they aren't hurting anyone or people aren't in immediate danger from them at the very moment, there's no reason to use physical force. But if they're disrupting civil society it makes sense to talk to them or just politely remove them and move them elsewhere. But let's face it, messing up traffic is just fucking annoying but it's not some huge disservice. There have been mass protests and strikes (like the airline industry one reagan dealt with) that have disrupted people's lives in greater numbers and in more urgent situations.
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>>85963658
Strictly looking at that one page without any other context, it really looks like the cops just pulled guns on him out of nowhere.

Which, I don't know, that seems like exactly the kind of thing you should expect someone to run away from.
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>durrhurr im so PISSED that batman is beating up a trigger happy cop, those don't exist in real life it's only DUMB CHIMP THUGS rrreeeee

stop being retarded. if this was some pattern that kept happening in batman comics then you get to sperg out, but until then stop crying about everything. you guys are all embarrassments that think you're some counterculture truth warriors at the slightest thing you deem "tumblr"
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>>85964405
>When the fleeing felon poses an immediate danger to the public
>poses an immediate danger to the public
And that's the issue.
Because otherwise you may NOT use deadly force to prevent escape. That is NOT allowed.
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>>85963658
batman is against killing, retard, especially when a suspect can just be brought in peacefully. in bruce's eyes, there is no need to turn your gun on someone who is running from you and has their back turned on you in this case. that's his own discretion.
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You guys think that maybe writers aren't pandering so much as they just believe differently than you and see social situations differently than you? And that there being a bunch of issues of corruption in the police department isn't exactly some new trend that Gotham books are hopping on? Bribery, drug trafficking and straight up murder and framing have all been a part of the GCPD since the late 80s. Gotham Central, Det Comics, and Red Robin all had this in the early 2000s.

I live in a country where the corruption in the police makes US police look like little pussies. And sometimes it even works in our favor. But other times we know exactly what they are and there isn't a need to white knight all of them. Some are scum, some are noble, that's how it always goes with the badge.
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>>85964125
That was from the main Wonder Woman book.

Dark times.
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>>85963550
DC is Marvel
the exact same fucking thing
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>>85969890

That's the thing, the police isnt him, he is better than them and he knows it. He knows the limitations of the police
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>>85969890
>batman is against killing
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>>85964905
>blacks being slightly homophobic in any way in a comic book
OUTRAGE
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>>85970017
>You guys think that maybe writers aren't pandering so much as they just believe differently than you and see social situations differently than you?
But Anon, that sounds too much like common sense.
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>>85966272
nenncy
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>>85963615
>written by Steve Lieber's wife

pls marry a comrade instead steve we can bake you cookies
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>>85970073
Yeah you said that yesterday too.
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>>85970084
It's true, I think it's stupid for him to beat the shit out of a police man rather than just talk to him. But I didn't see any more of the page. If he's not wailing on him and just hits him once because it's the only thing that can stop a trigger finger or a totally unnecessary escalation on a fleeing subject, then I don't really care or mind. He knows the limitations but he probably knows plenty of amazing police, which is why he always delivers criminals into their hands. He trusts them. So when there's a dumbass that might cause a totally preventable death there's nothing wrong with knocking a bit of sense into them.

I guess I come from Brazil so I don't understand the concept of cradling the police like they're little babies from any criticism or admitting that some are straight up murderers. It's not most of them at all, most are good imo, but there's enough to ruin a lot of lives.
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>>85970073
But that can't be because DC produces higher quality content more consistently.
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>>85970087
>Earth-2 Batman
What's your point?
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>>85967992
>bogeymen
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>>85970120
Problem is, they shouldn't see situations through their own lenses but through the lenses of the characters they are writing. You shouldn't write Batman as an SJW or a Green Arrow as a /pol/ poster just because you see things that way.
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>>85967992
Weird how political correctness used to be a boogeyman of the Left.
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>>85970318
I'm pretty sure those policemen are more likely to investigate you if you do a death threat or start loudly sympathizing with terrorists.

Like they would if you did it out loud in the middle of the street.

When are we going to get used to the idea that the internet is essentially a public place and not some secret clubhouse? Because you assholes still don't seem to get it.
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>>85970339
>Problem is, they shouldn't see situations through their own lenses but through the lenses of the characters they are writing.
This is how superheroes have always been written.
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So many things these days are just guided by some swinging moral pendulum. I guess that's how it always goes. The reactionary religious right movement happened after the hippie shit and the civil rights movement, the failure of the liberal dream was answered to by a drug war and a bunch of conservative evangelical bullshit, then it swung back to nihilistic struggle, then post 9/11 patriotism and reactionary bullshit, then to a new form of sanctimonious social justice and band-aid liberalism, and now with the failure of Obama to satisfy basically any social group and not be a shit president we have Alex Jones style crying about every little move the SJWs do to take our freedoms and so on.

Does anyone else kind of get tired of being some dumbass culture warrior on either side? Just acknowledge reality and acknowledge injustices exist while also understanding that there can't be a movement based on "social justice" because it puts every day individuals as the arbitrators of what is just and unjust, which leads to them creating rhetoric and loopholes to exonerate themselves of bigotry or fallibility.

Anyway the crying about this comic is retarded desu senpai
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>>85965009
>tfw no superhero bf
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>>85970339
Anon superheroes were literally created for American jingoism and patriotism, they always were mouthpieces against whoever we were at war with, against commies, and to this day are constantly showing shithole countries filled with terrorists and evil villains and corrupt leaders. They generally depict drug dealers as assholes that deserve to get beaten up in a pile of their lackeys and pushers, they depict pimps and thugs as bad, they don't really question laws or crime and mostly have criminals making every day life hard for law abiding citizens...

This is nothing new, and the way it's used encompasses every side of the political spectrum.

Pic related, it's Dick Grayson and Donna Troy beating up a bunch of black and brown guys for pages in the 2000s, all because they were going to try and rob them. And having fun with it too. Just for shits and giggles.
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>>85967631
Pretty sure cape threads never get deleted ever. Moderation gives them a free pass on everything.
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>>85968974
Nice try ché
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>>85970220
That's not BATMAN,

Read the comic.
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>>85970816
I will. And if it isn't, then why the hell do people care so much?
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It's amusing to watch you guys complain about this every time it pops up.
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Remember when Joker was like ":( I can't work with a nazi even I hate those guys it's not funny"

this stuff always happens just chill out /co/ BLM isn't taking over your life I swear
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>>85970042

No, it wasn't. It was from the digital Sensation Comics Featuring Wonder Woman.
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>>85970906
Yeah I hated that. The Joker should say that the holocaust is a great pratical joke instead. At least that would make sense with some iterations of the character (the ones that like killing people).
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>>85970906
>>85971023
>>85971126


You idiots, it was sublte, but the point was that the JOKER is a JEW.
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>>85971250
He's not a Jew, he's AMERICAN, and all true Americans hate the nazis
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>/co/ supports black lies matter
I thought /co/ had reached peak tumblr when all you retards rushed to the defense of every weepy tranny that came panhandling on patreon, but this takes the cake. You're all faggots
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>>85971250
H E H

Well played.
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>>85971302
Not crying and shaking over a comic page doesn't equate blindly supporting an unorganized movement that doesn't even have a reasonable mission or solution to anything. Some of us just aren't acting like Glenn Beck sobbing retards over shit.
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>cops are arresting you
>"I'm going to run from the cops, running from the cops is a good idea"

Why would anyone think this, why would anyone think I would be sympathetic to a dumbass who decides to run from the cops while knowing himself to be innocent?
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>>85971293
I can guarantee you're not a true American, go back to Europe you annoying cunt
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>>85971250
I thought it was because he takes pride in being crazy, and the Nazis also killed the mentally ill?
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>>85971351
Did you know that Beck has his own TV channel? I was amazed to find out while channel surfing.

>>85970906
Nazis and Soviets are clear objects which can be easily reviled because they were the big bad genocidal dictatorships of the 20th century and while it doesn't make sense for a mass murdering psycho like the Joker to say "whoa murder for ideological reasons is GOING TOO FAR" it isn't nearly as retarded as this
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>>85970858
>stopping radicals from attacking a girls school

What's stopping those radicals from attaching a ton of explosives to their truck and ramming it into the school in a suicide bombing? This is why transformers should just stick to gi joeesque human villains instead of trying to "get real"
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>>85967812
Gary Johnson and other Libertarians are largely autismoids who think that we should have open borders and little to no government because this will be max freedom or something retarded
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>>85964579
>The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

The best argument for democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. It just depends whether average joe is a liberal or conservative and whether you're a liberal or a conservative.
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>>85971594
The fact that you only see two options ruins the point you're trying to make. The more uninformed the public is, the worse the case for democracy gets.
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>>85965152
It's not normal, but that doesn't mean it's wrong
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>>85967155
No Zoe Quinn is just an exemplary of the problems with a large part of modern liberalism, which is the white non-LGBT liberals end up putting themselves up as the champions of all minorities racial and sexual and respond very poorly when those minorities get uppity against them

Conservatives at least tend to be more homogenous so anyone advocating some religious stuff or advocating for white people is probably religious or white themselves and not speaking on behalf of a group they don't really have a stake in
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>>85967049
Because welfare is designed in such a way that it is more profitable to be on welfare than to seek to gain a promotion at McDonald's, because it would cost you welfare benefits

Hence it results in people working less but earning more than they otherwise would

Military spending is completely different because of the value people place on hard work, it is also worth noting that many of the people who come from poor backgrounds but refuse welfarism go into the military and end up using the provisions of the GI bill to attain a useful college degree and move up into the middle class

There are numerous other military spending benefits, like the incest between the military and industry which ensures a lot more factory jobs stay in America which also benefits the non-college educated people

Hence the military becomes an engine of hope for advancement for lower class people while welfare is a mire of stagnation which incites the jealousy of middle class people who dislike their tax dollars benefiting people they view as slackers
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>>85968393
Given that he's still a devout Methodist on sundays Clark Kent arguably is super-conservative

The fact here is that when you say super conservative you're saying it from some weird point of view where you think all devout religious people must be like the Westboro baptist church
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>>85968543
Because they are. American English is a separate dialect from British English and hence has different definitions.
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>>85965066
>apartheid

There are many reasons why that's retarded
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>>85971844
Actually I just meant it as a pun on how many of his superpowers have "super" as a prefix.
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>>85964515
Being a cop is the safest it's been in decades. They're more likely to die in a traffic accident than anything else.
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>>85971594
The actual best argument for democracy is a five-minute conversation with a monarch.
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>>85963509
>DC is free from political stuff
fuck off newfag
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>>85965066
>Political shit is ok as long as I personally agree with it.
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>>85971645
The issues are too complex for the vast majority of voters to understand in full, so they usually latch on to one or two issues they really care about and stick with the party which represents those issues

Complaining that the coal miner or the mcdonalds employee doesn't have an opinion on some obscure issue that only someone who was a highly educated politician like Sir Winston Churchill might consider vitally important is idiotic

In any case Churchill's whining about democracy largely derives from the fact that when he was about 40 years old suffrage was extended to all British men regardless of class which lead to his beloved Liberal party getting fucking annihilated in the polls by the massive working class voting block which supported the Labour party, hence his butthurt about democracy
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>>85971960
Violent crime has also been the lowest it's been in a long while. The murder rate in Chicago is not even half as bad as it was in the 90s.

But that's not going to get the voters clamming for you.
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>>85972070
You mean with a dictator

Dictators aspire to power and are willing to do awful things to keep it, the worst monarchs tend to just be completely careless and clueless because power is something they inherited and thus don't usually spend too much time trying to genocide their people to keep them in line- most of their struggles are against the nobility instead
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>>85971385
This might shock you, but some people think that others don't deserve to die for being afraid (for whatever reason they are afraid) and running. Especially not from law enforcement. Watching COPS I saw plenty of idiots running from law enforcement and making their lives harder and getting caught in a fence or having a dog take them down but I didn't think they deserved to be shot and killed. It's called civil society. You don't have to be a weeping bleedingheart pussy liberal to think that someone shouldn't die even if they're acting like an idiot. Running while innocent is literally harming nobody. Stupidity should not be punishable by death, especially in minors.
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>>85971960
>>85972143
Which correlates with the rise of zero tolerance and three strikes policies which have resulted in the US currently having something like 5 million people imprisoned and 9 million total having served time

If you put all the bad guys in jail it turns out they can't commit crime
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>>85972173
I guess it's a good thing that there have been maybe only few dozen cases in the past 5 or so years where a cop was found to have brutally gunned down a fleeing suspect, and that it turns out that even if you decide to be a cunt and flee the cops don't shoot you 95% of the time
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>>85965066
But who could organically address BLM then? Gotham City Police Dept are known crooks and many of them are corrupt, even if a lot of good cops exist too. So if Batman is not able to tackle that, then who could tackle the issue of excessive violence and police brutality that wouldn't make people go full retard and say that DC has an agenda? IF it was a black character it would be even worse of a reaction and he'd just be hated and alienate a bunch of crowds that want to feel victimized. He'd also be defined by "black issues" so it would be shit writing.

No matter how you feel about a reactionary movement, don't pretend that police brutality (which has existed and been an issue of all races and against the poor as well for a long time) is on par with trrans rights in a bathroom or "sexism in gaming".
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More like political shit is ok as long as it makes sense in the story and with the character, Aquaman and Environmentalism can go hand to hand regardless of the writer, just like Jaime Reyes and Illegal immigration could make sense. Captain America destroying nukes in Iran? That's propaganda, Wonder woman beating sexist gamers? That's pandering, wonder woman rescuing girls kidnapped in the congo? That's in character and ok.
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>>85972232
It's a good thing that the cops that don't shoot and kill fleeing innocent people don't get their names brought to the public and don't get people protesting to put them to justice en masse. Who is saying that cops kill all fleeing suspects? It's a thing that happens and when it does it's often met with impunity, but the majority of the time they don't. Which is why I mentioned watching COPS. They basically never killed all kinds of idiots running, from white trailer trash to your average thug.
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>>85972150
Both work. Monarchs in particular because it's literally just that one average voter you'd talk to for Democracy, just without all the other voters to counteract them.
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>>85972252
It's ok to adress police violence, and corruption, but i don't think is right to side with BLM
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>>85972181
This is a very simple and stupid way of looking at things. Learn2statistics and data research and that there's debate about this going on to this day.

>>85971960
You're also more likely to die as a fisher. Or logger. Or flight engineer or pilot or roofer. Garbage collectors too, steel workers, taxi drivers, guys in construction, maintenance workers all have higher death rates. Being a cop is a scary job, but a lot of unglorified jobs are way scarier and the room for error is even more dire.
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>>85972343
Why not? Just wondering. You do know that BLM is totally fractured, like the Tea Party (but even bigger and more fractured), and doesn't have any real clear mission statement or solutions or focus. They fight about reforms versus complete abolition, some advocate for body cameras and political lobbying, some want to shun that altogether. It is not a cohesive movement which is why it's not really going to get anything done other than annoy people for a few more years.

It's not some official group you have to be accepted into. You can just walk around screaming hands up don't shoot and try to flip over a cop car or loot a store and someone will say you're the same as the protestor who is a university student and is peacefully sitting down in front of the police or even conversing with them.

BLM has no real leader and is just a shitty and fractured "movement". But people are very reactionary in it and outside of it, so tackling police violence and corruption especially against black people in particular will automatically seem like siding with BLM. Just like before people being maligned and thinking that if you believe the LAPD beating of Rodney King is fucked up and want to talk about it it also means you condone the LA riots and violence.
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>>85972305
No, monarchy is a completely different system from dictatorship

Inheriting a throne that has been in your family for a thousand years is different from being a mountain bandit or a failed artist who then murders millions of people to gain absolute power and creates completely different styles of ruling
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>>85972461
BLM really does make no sense as a movement. Not what they're upset about, but their goals and methods and strategies basically amount to nothing more than bad press and attention whoring. If they had an actual smart leader maybe it would be different but I guess all of their smart leaders are dead. Now it's just young people with too much time on their hands not getting anything of value done.
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>>85972488
You are arguing completely unrelated things for seemingly no other reason then to show how great your feelings are. How evil the person running a system has no relation to how poor the actual system is. The thing that both monarchies and dictatorships have in common and which both differ from Democracy is that they both have a single point on which the entire system rests, any weakness in that single point, whether through incompetence or malice, brings down the whole system.
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>>85972375
>

Mass incarceration and the drop in crime rates correlate with each other, the legalization of abortion may also factor in but you're a retard if you honestly think putting everybody in jail doesn't solve the problem
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>>85972593
You're talking about absolute monarchy. The bulk of monarchies throughout history have not been absolute monarchies. Furthermore there isn't any demonstrable proof democracy is a better or more stable system than monarchy- in fact monarchies tend to outlast democracies and republics.
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>When you see useless myrmidons sucking police dick, acting like the US criminal justice system isn't a mess of corruption, graft, perverse incentives, and bullshit
BTW, not blindly trusting the passive voice "explanations" cops give out after a plainly bullshit encounter is not "SJW". You can distrust cops without thinking blacks need reparations. You've ironically bought into the bullshit spin the media has made, where they act like it's a purely racial problem, whereas it's mostly class with a touch of racism.

Daily reminder that cops have treated being possibly filmed by phone camera during their duties as a "war on cops"
>Wahh, i can't beat someone cuz someone might film it and prove I'm perjuring myself in court when I lie about it
Cry me a river.
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>>85970468
The conservative student movement was actually bigger than the hippie/ hipster movement.

The Young Hippy movement was the one that did shit by taking over positions in Colleges. They were kids who went to the Height-Ashburry as teens and bought into buying $10 dollars of LSD for enlightenment.
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>>85972734
Sadly you won't get to say this here without people thinking you believe in reparations and want to loot cities. Cops are white knighted everywhere and people are melodramatic about them constantly.

>>85972694
I'm saying there's debate over causation and if that's really the best way to approach things, especially with the punitive vs rehabilitative methods and high recidivism rates. This is in every 101 class for law and justice studies, people rationally debating various methods to law, philosophies of it, and what to do about the "criminal class" it creates. Everybody in jail certainly gets violent people off the streets but also fucks up a lot of nonviolent people and fucks up their futures. Much crime rose because of the drug wars and having to support a habit or rob peter to pay paul or defend turfs all cause a rise in property crimes, petty theft, armed robbery, drug trade, and eventually violence.
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>>85972461
>Why not?

It dates the story.

Is that simple. Think Kony 2012.
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>>85972721
Increasing the amount of points of failure needed to bring down a system by definition makes the system more stable. Going from a single point to a few dozen points to a majority only makes it require more and more of the system itself to be corrupted before total failure occurs. It takes one bad person to ruin a dictatorship or absolute monarchy, it takes a few dozen bad people to take down an aristocracy, it takes systemic corruption of society to take down a democracy or republic.
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>>85973139
You're right on that. Also,
>kony 2012

I didn't need that laugh.
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>>85972343
>but i don't think is right to side with BLM

Yeah well, I don't think it's right to side with the people who shoot people and close ranks to protect themselves from the consequences of said shootings.
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>>85973139
>>85974046
kino 2012
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