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is there any comics or cartoons involving a human and a monster

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is there any comics or cartoons involving a human and a monster or nonhuman creature in a romantic relationship?
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What the fuck?
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>>85924469
Creature From the Black Lagoon: An Axel Braun Porn Parody.
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>>85924469
Neonomicon by Alan Moore
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>>85924520
>Creature From the Black Lagoon: An Axel Braun Porn Parody.
Toppest of keks
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>>85923988
anon, mind breaking a girl is not romance
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>>85924750
She seems to like it
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>>85924520
For real? Either way I'm googling it
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>>85924830
This. Cthulu cultists WANT to be diddled by fish-men.
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>>85924750
Actually, she isn't mind-broken. She did that to avoid being raped by the monster.
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>>85924897
Thats hot
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>>85924849
I know I read it Does not she end up mind broken? working for fish people as an insider and seening the fish guy with a veil over his mouth or something like that?
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>>85924897
I saw it once and it made me sick. Now i aint clicking it
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>>85924897
I didn't understand this story at all.
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>>85925833
I think its about the tragedy of female condition in the 17th century
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>>85924897
Ugh, I HATE when writers take interspecies relationships down the "realistic" route
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>>85923988

Uh…
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>>85926063

It's a horror comic, I think realism wasn't their first priority.
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>>85923988
>a human and a monster or nonhuman creature in a romantic relationship?


Avengers
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also runaways
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>>85925038
she does, but that's the stated ability of those fish-dudes: they can breed with humans, and their cultists want to because of mind control

it's not something Moore came up with
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>>85926408
fuck you John Byrne
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>>85926523
What is your point? I did not say moor came up with it, Im just saying mind breaking /control is not romance
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>>85923988
Swamp Thing.
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>>85923988

Do "nonhumans" that look exactly like humans with a nonhuman skin tone count?
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>>85926594
wellll that's kind of what marriage is and it's kind of not
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>>85926285
100% human-appearing "aliens" don't count.
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>>85926661
Yes
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>>85923988
come on people...dorohedoro??
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>>85926933
Then Steven Universe.
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Beauty and the Beast, at least up until the end of the movie
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>>85923988
Moore-Collins Swamp Thing
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>>85923988
Tank Girl fucks a kangaroo person.
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If it weren't off board, I'd love to extend this question to video games.

>>85927577
I recall Tank Girl being a complete tease that never gets around to any actual fucking.
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>>85926594

Dude, love is mind-breaking.
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>>85926618
YOU ARE AMAZING
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>>85926408
>a human and a monster or nonhuman creature in a romantic relationship?
That's not nice. Scarlet Witch isn't that bad.
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>N52 Demon Knights

>Etrigan & Madame Xanadu
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>>85925038
>fish guy with a veil
That's motherfucking Nyarlathotep. Do you even Lovecraft?
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>>85924469
Anon has a furry fetish. He just substitutes one animal for another
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>>85923988
Savage Dragon.

Some stranger than others. The half-human half-alien hooking up with a magic robot was one of the stranger ones. Then again, Malcolm and this chick are kinky as hell.
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>>85930225
I think it's mentioned that they couldn't actually fuck each other, because Xanadu would die in the process.
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>>85930999
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Best human/non human couple coming through. Two seasons of romantic bulid up and sexual frustrations in a great couple. This was the shit.
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well...
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>>85923988
What is this from?
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>>85931130
Alan Moore's Necronomicon.

Basically taking an approach to HP Lovecraft that is, depending on your view, either parody or whatever Crossed is.

Most people regard it as shit, but some people see it as one of the worst comics ever written for various reasons.
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>>85931130
Alan Moore's Neonomicon.
It's... not good.
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>>85931130
Thanks! Think I'll go read something else.
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>>85931160
>>85931164
thx
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>>85931100
c'mon, just cause she has a manface there doesn't mean she's a monster
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>>85931160
That was one of the worst I've ever read. Its up there with a few of the storytimes of pain. Not the fun ones. Im.... sad that exists and that I spent the time to read it.
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>>85924469
alan moore has become a total senile neckbeard and nerds are scrambling to justify shit like OP's pic
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>>85926063
>>85925833
>>85925072
>>85925007

All these responses to deleted posts.

It was the fly comic, wasn't it?
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>>85931037
Was this show any good?
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>>85923988
Anyone who thinks Alan Moore has talent only needs to read Neonomicon. Literally singlehandedly undid all his accomplishments. How anyone can call him "the best comics writer ever" is inconceivable.
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>>85925038
The Comic Implies that when she gives birth it will be Chuthulu.
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>>85926665
Howard Philips, pls
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>>85932278
Yes, holy fuck yes. Skip the Goliath Chronicles though.
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It is not good but neither is it that horrible.
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>>85932311
That's what I thought of The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.
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>>85930957
>20 year old life

I somehow feel this is not as it should be. Isn't the Savage Dragon assumed to be way older than that?
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>>85932504
>Says he wants to explore themes lovecraft was scared of, such as racism
>Black dude get's shot in the head
>called nigger
>Have people threaten to rape his corpse
Amazing writing by alan moore!, you don't get many writers who can subtly work dark issues into their comics in an intelligent way
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>>85932311
Every major writer has at least 1 bad comic.
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>>85932772
>Says he wants to write a book about girls "Exploring Sexuality"
>It's Alice from Wonderland, Wendy from Peter Pan and Dorothy from Oz all talking about how they all love to get raped. Mostly gang raped.
>Holy shit it really is just girls talking about how they love to be raped.
>Moore says it's porn, all his fans call it "high art"
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>>85932894
Almost no comic book writers have written fish rape stories
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>>85932894
Moore has shit the bed WAY more than once.

See >>85932932
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>>85923988

Swamp Thing.

You should read Alan Moores run. His wife is arrested for being involved with a monster and taken to Arkham. Swamp Thing fucks with the entire city and beats the shit out of Batman until they release her
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>>85931160
Moore is truly our Shakespeare.
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Homestuck.
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>>85931160
>>85931164
I will never get why people are so triggerd by Neonomicon. I mean yeah.. I get that it can get a bit iffy but thats what Moore was going for. Also , if that was the worst comic you ever read, read more comics
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>>85932311

Alan Moore is a fucking hack. So many of his stories involve rape that I'm surprised he hasn't been investigated
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>>85923988
Superman, genius.
Teen Titans
Doom Patrol
Deadpool
Green Lantern
Astro City
Guardians of the Galaxy
Oban Star Racers
Star Wars
Gargoyles
Thor

The list goes on and on and on.
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>>85932976
>I don't like reading about a girl jacking off a fish
>Lmao u triggered?, you clearly couldn't understand his artistic vision
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>>85933030
Do you know anything about the Cthulhu mythos ? Have you read the courtyard ? Did you read any of his Yuggoth cultures stories ?

Also: Explain to me why having a Deep One rape a woman (something they are known for) is bad storytelling ? The whole comic is a riff on Lovecrafts work and putting the things back in that he was to puritan to include like sex and violence.
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>>85933071
I didn't say it was bad storytelling, i said it was hamfisted and forced for shock value, same as the gratuitous racism
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>>85932894
Neonomicon is so far beyond just being bad that just calling it "bad" no longer accurately describes it.

And anything he did after like... 2006, or so, is just flat out irredeemable.

Even Frank Miller has only made like two or three genuinely bad comics, but none of them come even remotely close to the levels of Neonomicon. Plus Miller can still (co-)write cool shit like DK3 and The Last Crusade.
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>>85923988
So, that's cum?
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a lot of the things that can be said about neonomicon can also be said about savage dragon's stupid, web comic-ey sex bullshit, yet savage dragon is lauded.
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>>85932700
This is the Savage Dragon's son, taking over family heroics (and the series) when dear old dad suddenly remembered that he used to be an evil alien warlord and went evil alien warlord on everybody.
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Wasn't the whole point of Neonomicon is that Moore needed money so he wrote edgiest lovecraft story he could think of in half an hour ?

Also Providence proves that he can write story that relies on subtle horror instead of just shock value
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>>85933612
Yes
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>>85933174
I don't think he went for shock value. It's like Moore did his best to make it less shocking. I mean, it's an horror story, of course the initial reveal of a rape-monster is going to be scary, shocking, creepy or whatever, but after that things flow overall in a weirdly calm way. The masturbation scene, as silly as it was, it's a proof of that, he used her sex addiction to make her situation less hard for the character and to some extent the reader

My point is you don't have 10 pages of gratuitous "OH GOD PLEASE MAKE IT STOP OH NO I WANT TO DIE THIS IS HORRIBLE OH PLEASE MY VAGINA IS BLEEDING AAAAAAAAAAH", the worst you get is "my vagina is sore", there's no focus on the gruesome side of things a-la Crossed
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>>85931100
What ever happen to that Skrull thing with their baby? Or was that retconned or something?
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>no The Will and The Stalk
Over before we even really go it.
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>>85932979
This. He's just like shadman when it comes to rape
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>>85926908
>100% human-appearing
you don't know what he has down there
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>>85934621
Is this real or a joke?
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>>85934638
it's not published by DC, if that's what you mean
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>>85934568
Wait there are humans in Saga?
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>>85934638
>http://nebezial.deviantart.com/art/first-time-is-always-awkward-XD-494768437
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>>85933071
I want you to prepare yourself for the overblown rage I'm about to lay down upon your ignorant ass. Old, biblical nerd rage. Multiple, unnecessary posts.

>Do you know anything about the Cthulhu mythos?
>proceeds to list only stories Moore himself wrote as evidence

Rape has never been a part of any Lovecraft stories. The closest one gets is marriages of convenience. And the only reason we know anyone at all in Lovecraft stories had sex is because they end up having kids. Having kids was the singular reason any sort of sex, never even alluded to outside of their being physical evidence of it in the children, ever happened in Lovecraft, and it was with perhaps one or two stories where it's more vague what anyone's intentions were outside of kids. Given the rest of the stories, that it possibly have been read as rape was probably beyond Lovecraft's ability to comprehend.

Children and bloodlines are the focus of the stories. Those Deep Ones? "Known" for raping women? Never raped. Ever. It was a voluntary exchange of partners as part of a trade agreement between a fishing town and the Deep Ones to get secure fishing hauls each season. The Deep Ones wanted to mingle bloodlines to have agents on the surface. In fact, the first person to mix with the Deep Ones is the male sailing captain who found one of their cults on an out of the way island. Most of Lovecraft's human/monster pairing, when they showed up as there were only a small handful of them, were men and monsters.

Monster rape is only tied to the mythos by filthy fucking secondaries who saw monsters and hybrids and the B-Movies that aped them, which in general had erotic themes of sexual assault as part of their overarching genre. And now people who've never cracked open a Lovecraft story think they know how it works because a bunch of people who can't write a single story with a visible sexual theme worked in a few visual traits or plot points from Lovecraft's stories.
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>>85934902
It's like telling people who dislike how Elves are always cliche pompous eco twits in modern fantasy that "what, that's just how elves are, didn't you read Tolkien?"

>>85933071
Oh and we're not done yet, you stupid fuck.

>The whole comic is a riff on Lovecrafts work and putting the things back in that he was to puritan to include like sex and violence.
>putting things back in
>all stories need sex and violence and any that didn't were just written by people too prudish to include it

Go fuck yourself you plebotic piece of pus. Not every story needs to have sex nor is adding it in some fucking ground breaking commentary on a story. Anyone with a passing familiarity with Lovecraft's story can immediately call Moore out a someone who had no fucking clue what any of the works were actually about.

Yes, Lovecraft was a crazy, racist puritan who probably woke up afraid of his own shadow. I mean, like genuinely afraid. But his stories weren't sterilized by him somehow removing the "logical" sex and violence (and there's still plenty of the latter, just not in anyway visceral). Not all stories need it, and his stories were never even remotely about the sex or violence. He wrote stories about a fear of the unknown. A fear of your own family history. A fear of people too insane or too selfish fucking with the lives of others and powers they could not control. Sometimes his heroes won, quite often in fact, but always at a cost to their mental health for having to deal with it. He also wrote stories about comedy, about an appreciation for the colonial aAmerican architecture and life and also being hilariously racist. Dreams. The importance of dreams, the world within them, the value they held for someone who was confined to a lonely house for most of his childhood. Stories and history. Living life through them.
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>>85934925
>>85933071
They're not perfect works, and many are flawed in pretty fundamental ways. I enjoyed many all the same, in all their actually wide and varied genres and tones. Like all authors, stories, or franchise that develop a substantial awareness in the public mind and affect lots of stories, the originals offer something more than the watered down interpretations they become known for. They're not works for everyone, and I don't really care that people have the wrong ideas nowadays. But when some blind, retarded, head up his own fucking ass ignorant idiot dares to defend it by condescending to others about "the true Lovecraft," you can bet I get mad.

Alan Moore when he wrote Neonomicon was a fucking pled who had zero idea what he was trying to do and the only reason he ever saved himself from that laughable disgrace is he wrote Providence, a real examination of Lovecraft's work and mythos after getting a fucking clue. Anyone who considers reading Neonomicon outside of the first passable story or for giggles should just read Providence instead. It actually does something with what Lovecraft wrote and is just a better put together story to begin with.
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>>85933030
I find the fishman hot and even i know its fron a shittly written story.
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>>85934925
>getting this mad over being proven wrong

y tho
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>>85934655
It's been awhile, so I don't know offhand. Probably a Star Wars type of thing, where they're human, but don't have any connection to humanity as it is in real life. Just exactly the same except for wherever humans come from in that story. As far as I know, The Will and his sister aren't in anyway noticeably different from regular humans, even if they aren't actually "human."
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>>85931100
Which one of them is the nonhuman? I genuinely can't tell.
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>>85934956
gay
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>>85935304
Thank you
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>>85932976
Yeah I read it last night,
It's certainly not like an amazing life changing read, but I feel like people counting it among 'worst comics ever' are probably just normies who only read big 2 stuff.
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>>85933386
Well now we know you're trolling. Neonomicon is better than that crap miller puts out, last good thing he did was daredevil. His batman stuff is just atrociously bad.
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>>85927577
>>85927720

She also fucks and gets knocked up by her tank.
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>>85935332
Took me a while but i get it.
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>>85935332
What is she drinking?
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>>85932932
This better be a real thing.
Because I'm going to be looking for it now.
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Would this count, considering that she was born an ape?
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>>85935698
Yes, it counts
>>85935706
I wanna fugg that bugg
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>>85934568
Is this book just porn? Wasn't another issue drawn by a furfag porn artist
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>>85935739
>Is this book just porn
Not really no. There's a good amount of sex and sexual imagery, but really anything above a normal erotica level.
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>>85926934
Why would /co/ be aware of that?
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>>85934947
Providence is pretty damn good though, and it has like three or four monster hybrids show up
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>>85932957
Thanks, that was basically what I was going to write.
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>>85933071
I forgot about all the times Lovecraft and his cronies showed us fish handjobs
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>>85932932
>>Moore says it's porn, all his fans call it "high art"

Didn't he write it with his wife? It's basically him working out his kinks and a weird treatise on female sexuality.
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>>85934902
I honestly wonder how voluntary it was on the women's part though.
Like, not saying that you are wrong about the basics of Lovecraft's writing, but there are several ways to read that.
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>>85936114

The thing about Necrominon is that the fish monster is more like an overgrown child with a huge dick. It's not actively malicious like the humans are.
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>>85936193
Yeah the running theme in Moore's Lovecraft comics, even Neonomicon although is more overtly maligned, is that the tribes and cults of the Mythos are really just doing what they feel is right.
Bringing the world back to the natural state.

It's only the fringe groups that fuck it all up.
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>>85934568

Saga was a such a cocktease. I wanted actual sex with monster girls, not tumblr-tier romance.
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>>85936225

I loved the end with the woman being pregnant with an eldrtich monstrosity and the original cultist freaking out at the revelation Best bad end
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>>85936266
It's even worse in Providence when Robert Black has a premonition of her nine months later and she is described as bulging and already about to go into labor.
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>>85926408
I wonder if she has curly bottom also.
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>>85936285

Is Providence also Avatar?

Is it the same universe?
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>>85936328
Well..yes.

It's a prequel and a sequel to Courtyard and Neonomicon. Given the relfective nature of time and the main character being a latent psychic.
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>>85936346

Thanks.

Avatar's art/inking always put me off so I never read that much from them.
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>>85936372
Providence is probably the best art they've ever had.

It's Jacen Burrows but he's stepped his game up about 30 notches.
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>>85936346
>Courtyard

Could someone storytime that, please? I have Neonomicon on my shelf, and am planning to get Providence when there is a complete volume, but this is the first I've heard of Courtyard.
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>>85935581
He is talking about Lost Girls
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>>85936532
The trade of Neonomicon should have Courtyard in it as the first 2 chapters.
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>>85935739
You are probably thinking of Island
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>>85936540

Yes, it's basically Alice in Wonderland and co. learning about their sexuality in trippy colors.
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>>85935445
>last good thing was daredevil
>TDKR and on miller was bad
hello hipster
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>>85936193
look at that prud papa
>honey were gonna have a child!
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>>85935698
How about when just their genitalia are from a baboon?
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>>85935825
>fuck a talking vegetable
>somehow you're worse than pederasts or guys who jerk of on piles of laundry

That's a great story-line but the collective IQ of the population drops to Marvel civilian tier for some reason.
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>>85936095
He entirely set out to make porn. Which his wife then illustrated. Criticise his penchant for rape or who the best he can do with the Cthulu mythos is just fish rape, but Lost Girls was entirely something he made to jerk off to.
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>>85937031
>Lost Girls was entirely something he made to jerk off to.

So? A lot of artists end up jerking to their art. A lot of mangaka started off doing porn, like the author of Hellsing.
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>>85934568
Well it looks like he's in a relationship with Gwen now so it still counts.
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>>85932976
just shits on Lovecraft thats why i hate it. Also moore is a guy who could do it better so like wtf
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>>85932976
It's shit.

But then Moore's subsequent prequel, Providence, instead of vindicating it, just makes it look even shittier by comparison.
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>>85923988
Beauty and the beast?
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>>85934925
Racist, xenophobic wasp(ish) and misanthrope, probably not that crazy or fearful. He traveled as his budget allowed, and was described as an adequately excellent lover by his ex-wife. He was puritanical, but only out of the sense of propriety. He wasn't religious at all. One of his biggest things was preferring things he considered aesthetically superior and pleasing. Usually antiquarian things and classical architecture. His taste in literature was old fashioned before he was even an adult because he grew up reading old books in the family library and imitating them, although he burnt the earliest works because they kind of sucked and were juvenile.

He generally liked architecture, books, and cats more than people, for instance. He also liked ice cream as I understand. He would regularly travel a reasonable distance to get ice cream at a local store. His longer travels were to see the antique and historic buildings of other cities. He initially liked the sweeping majesty of New York's buildings, and the charming brown stones, but grew to dislike it and be fearful and resentful because of the large number of immigrants who were taking jobs out from under him, jobs he felt an intelligent gentleman such as himself ought to be able to do.

He saw himself as a gentleman, you see. Generally capable, well bred, basically decent. No particular talents or experience per-se, but also a generally respectable and well rounded member of society. Of course, yeah, he was misanthropic, and haughty, and had no real experience. So of course he didn't get a job and eventually went back home.

Although time, and the experience of marrying a Jewish woman and separating amicably because he felt sort of unworthy or whatever because he couldn't find work or something else, softened him some.
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>>85937212
I think there's some slight vindication.
It does a great job setting up the world.

Nothing can salvage Neonomicon's main flaws, but a rising flood raises all boats.
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>>85937150
Frank Miller admitted he created Elektra as jerk off material because he couldn't afford porn and wanted something sexy to look at.
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Large female monster + human male is the best combo.
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>>85935502
Horse semen.
Jizz is actually high in protein......that's the joke.
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>>85935637
Still disappointed in Fry for not hitting it.
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>>85937286
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>>85923988
I remember reading this during a superbowl party in 2014. Totally one of the worst choices possible.
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>>85930957

Man, Savage Dragon sure has changed a lot, since I stopped reading it a decade ago.
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>>85937286
10/10 taste anon
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>>85932278

As long as you avoid the Goliath Chronicales, Disney's attempt to make a Gargoyles zombie.
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>>85937662
Or the comics, Greg's attempt to do something... anything... something...
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>>85937828

Greg's life is suffering.
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>>85937882
he is a hack
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>>85937272

Elektra is basically Miller's waifu.
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>>85937314
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>>85923988
Techincally Mallah and the Brain.
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>>85937286
+ human FEmale
Fixed it for you.
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>>85936230
Then you didn't read.
>put it in my spinneret.
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So, is Savage Dragon just like "sex life of a green freak with big dick"?
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>>85939664
No
It's more like adventures of a dude who everyone wants to kill but can't with the occasional side plot of dude everyone wants to fuck
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>>85935332
S-sauce?
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