Just finished Gravity Falls. Why did /co/ hate the ending and

>>85899541
I honestly liked it for the most part. Mostly, its down to a lot of wasted potential. What we got is a fine, serviceable ending, but what we COULD have gotten was a lot more.

Scrapped ideas from Season 1 they hinted at
Rushed ending with plot holes
Stan's memory returning without any tension ruining the ending
Season 2 being only 20 episodes
Most of those issues seemed more like Disney pressure than what Hirsch's imagined, though. The plot holes, scrapped concepts and rushed plot were probably because of Disney only funding 2 seasons, and Stan's memory was probably so that the kids wouldn't get too sad.
All and all good mystery cartoon, though. People just got salty because they expected more.

>>85899541
they got mad cause they overanalized the story and characters when in the end it was just a comedy show with some plot,not a lore filled drama.

>>85899670
>Scrapped ideas from Season 1 they hinted at
Like what?

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>>85899670
Except Disney wanted more seasons because GF is a good seller. Alex only wanted 2 seasons, not Disney. ALex almost canceled GF after the first season because he's a bitch. Mabel never learns anything, and Dipper has to clean up everything. If your answer to Mabel being a fuck up is that she's a kid, then why is Dipper (a kid) the one pulling the weight? Why does Stan get his memory back with no sacrifice? Why did all of season 2B suck ass where everything before it lead us to believe is would be the chosen one?

Before you post about how Disney didn't do things, try pulling your head from your ass. Alex was the hack all along.

-Love a /gfg/anon

>Underdeveloped characters
>Underanswered questions
>Hastily rushed conclusions
>Filled with plotholes

Take your pick.

His memories came back way too fast.
I don't mind that they came back, I mind that they came back all at once. It should have been shown that he's just starting to recognize somethings as the kids are leaving, so it can be hinted that Ford can slowly guide him through healing his amnesia, both creating a happy ending for Stan, and allowing them to rekindle their relationship as brothers.

>>85899821
>>Underdeveloped characters
Didn't feel like that
>>Underanswered questions
Like what?
>>Hastily rushed conclusions
Didn't feel like that
>>Filled with plotholes
Such as?

>>85899541
/co/ hates anything good

>>85899541
GO TO BED KERI

>>85900084
That's a handful of half-assed answers, Alex

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I think /co/ just really really wanted more Pacifica action. She's their waifu
as for me, I got what I wanted. I still can't believe our fanart came twoo.

>>85900255
Just answer my questions cucko

S2B is a litmus test for standards, if you thought there was nothing wrong with it then they're low as fuck.

>>85899541
There was literal years of build up and for that, the payoff felt lackluster. Especially when you consider that there was originally going to be 3 seasons and a movie

Combine that with Hirsch acting like a douche on twitter around the time of the finale and you can see why people turned on him

>>85900508
>Combine that with Hirsch acting like a douche on twitter
What'd he do?

>>85900546
started blocking people on twitter for no reason at all, even if they weren't being mean at all or had no malice intent

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>>85899541
Most of the ending was solid, and I legit started tearing up from pic related till the end.

... it was just a little rushed and oddly paced.

>>85899810

A gold plot point where Stan and Bill talked about it frequently, and was even hinted at in episode 1 with old men with gold chains magazine.

Also the "Eenie meeny miney you", Stan having a much more direct relation to Bill, etc.

>>85899541
Felt really rushed.

Personally I liked the ending as a concept, but not so much the execution. For a dream demon of unimaginable horror, Bill's weirdmageddon felt really cliche. It felt really underwhelming to have him end up just wanting to sit on a throne and rule and I wanted more abstract insanity from weirdmageddon than just ears and feet all over the place with some random monsters. Was also disappointed that the henchminions basically did nothing except get their asses beat by the shack in a few minutes.

What really bothers me is that the ending felt so rushed and they still wasted an entire episode on Mabel's bullshit dreamworld. It wasn't interesting, it made her seem like a shitty person, and they should have been able to just explain to her that she needed to leave her comfort zone because everyone she loved was out there suffering.

The final part of the ending was good though.

>>85900624

>This image

It just felt so wrong after having been on the ride for so long to see that room so hollow.

I still miss the show and I still miss the magic that came with it.

>>85900508
buildup is disney's fault. you have to think of it like you watched it all in a row

>>85900284
because she got better character development, Wendy is just a blank-slate throughout the show

it could have also been so many hiatuses that also affected Hirsch

>>85900762
>For a dream demon of unimaginable horror, Bill's weirdmageddon felt really cliche. It felt really underwhelming to have him end up just wanting to sit on a throne and rule and I wanted more abstract insanity from weirdmageddon

This was it for me. Bill was more threatening when he lacked power than when his plan was successful. I was never actually scared for any of the main characters like I was scared for them when Bill was just on the scene and he could change their characters irrevocably.

Because killing a main character for no good reason and then bringing him back to life for no reason is cheap forced drama.

>>85900624
>>85900768
The music is what did it for me. Both the sad tune starting from when the empty room is shown, and the music during Dipper's final monologue.

I fucking wept.

>>85899632
That was my general opinion as well. What we got was good, but it felt like they set things up for a whole other season.

Would have liked to see characters like Ford and Pacifica have time for more of an arc.

>>85900894
Wendy's fine, but being hyper-competent and constantly pined after by Dipper held her back a bit from being a fully developed member of the main group.

>>85899670
add "the circle meant jack shit at the end"

>>85900084
>>85900379
>Underdeveloped characters
We never got a proper Wendy episode, even fucking Pacifica got one
>Underanswered questions
Can't speak for everybody here but i wanted to know more about Bill's dimension
>Hastily rushed conclusions
Dipper and Mable's argument, time baby dying so easily, the prophecy meaning jack shit after being hinted since episode fucking one, Bill's death being pretty much meaningless
>Filled with plotholes
See the above, some autist probably listed all of them and i am too lazy to counter this

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The order of the holy mackerel doesn't exist for one, except that there was a promo about it existing and it was a plot point in one of the earlier flash games. There's an example of something that was supposed to exist but got dropped.

In Mabel's dream world, instead of trying to do anything serious with the idea of being stuck inside a false world, we got Mabel being some cunt. We could have had something harkening to The Wall, The Matrix, or even Evangelion's instrumentality, something that would have given Mabel a legitimate reason to stay, and another strong reason for her friends to get her to leave. We got, yeah I know things are bad outside, fuck you guys. Mabel started as the best character, and while she didn't become the worst, she had the largest dip in quality. At least we have lewd Mabel, the only good thing to come of this shitty season 2B shitshow.

>>85899541
The hirsch hate is left over from the cabin fever from the hiatuses

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>>85900624
>>85901203
>>85900768
>Empty room
>The goodbyes
>Dippers monologue
>"See you next summer"
>The music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3RSyC5EVEo

All good, but right here man just that final shot got to me. As much as I hoped they somehow would have stayed, I knew it wasn't going to happen. When that bus went over that hill and we saw that final shot of Gravity falls lead into the credits. I had some tears coming out with a smile, after 4 years of watching this show with /co/ and the live threads. I feel empty just like when UBW part 2 ended.

Well today is their birthday, guess I'll watch the last episode tonight before the summer is over.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rK2XHepSadI

>>85899541

If you have to ask you didn't really finish it.

>>85899541
It was alright. I liked their final solution to destroy Bill. It was a clever plan and used pre-existing plots well. I did not like however the rush to finish up the show thanks to the cut season 3. People turn on Alex because he could have gotten a season 3 and Disney would have loved to keep the show around, but he was the one who wanted to end the show early. As result, Ford ended up as a character we barely knew despite his importance. Some fun filler episodes that usually fill these seasons would have gone a long way to helping with that. Also delivering one of the worst episodes of the whole show right before the finale didn't help.

>>85900284
Watching this makes me depressed. We will never see Wendy again or learn anything about her family for that matter.

I hope your happy with your shitty new Family Guy clone on FOX Alex you beady eyed jew hack.

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>>85900084
>Didn't feel like that
the characters were developed enough, and did enough to flesh out a lot of characters beyond their first impressions after the 1st season, but Wendy ironically was reverted to a Mary Sue in season 2 when she was more 3 dimensional in the 1st season.
They also reverted Pacifica in Weirdmageddon despite her getting enough character development for her to be on better terms with Mabel
>Like what?
what was Ford doing all those years
what was Gideon's deal with Bill
what happened to Blendin?
>Didn't feel like that
are you kidding?
the pacing in Weirdmageddon was trash, especially how easy it was for Gideon to turn good after a speech from Dipper, a guy he had no reason ever to listen too
>Such as?
how'd Stan get him memory back so easily?

also a complaint is a lot of the half baked morals and the clear biases the writers have
Those being straight up hate for the rich, particularly old money. It just comes off as petty and jealous
"Roadside Attraction" was a whole mess
and especially Mabel and Dipper's entire relationship

Gravity Falls gets points for not being more of the same and trying to avoid over used tropes, but in a lot of ways it just runs back into them as the series progressed

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>>85902963
I miss oppaianon

>>85899541
>Why did /co/ hate the ending and turn on Alex Hirsch?

Because /co is part of 4chan, and 4chan is the internet hate machine.

If you think /co is a 'nice board' you are one dumb fuck, who has been dragged in by the camouflage.

This is the worst fucking place on the internet.

If you're gonna stick around, you better toughen the fuck up and get your hate on, faggot.

>>85901729
>time baby dying so easily
not him
but Time Baby was a jobber, to show how powerful Bill is

>>85903053
I think Time Baby was killed because Alex thought it would get him a (You) from the censors that he hated at that point, but even they knew the time travel characters were all a shitty aspect and didn't care.

>>85901495
her purpose in the show was basically gone after she dump him

>>85899819
>/gfg/anon

thanks for invalidating everything you said

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>>85903169
thanks for the (you) dumbshit here's yours

>>85903044
I bet you own a Guy Fawkes mask too, huh!?

Gravity Falls isn't just a show for me, it's very much a chapter of my life. It took so goddamned long to finish that my summer with the Pines lasted during the most difficult downward spiral I've yet to go through. When it started I was a happy go lucky college freshman with healthy relationships and as it went on I lost everything. Not my blog, but I am positive I can't be the only young adult on this site who underwent a stressful amount of life changing during GF's run.

The ending was a little rushed and as the final pieces fell into place, the serialization STILL took a backseat to antics and shenanigans. All of the twin-peaks meets the Simpsons build up ended a lot more simpsons than it did twin peaks and that just kind of gave me mystery blueballs.

I'd wager a lot of /co/mrades jumped onto the steven universe lore ship after that, and now nobody is happy.

>>85900792
No. Disney only delayed GF for so long because they desparately wanted Hirsch to make that 3rd season, and get it in production while the show was actively running.

>>85903225
>jumping on the SU trainwreck

you lost me, other wise, yes, GF was a very large chapter in life. I got my gf through a mutual GF like, and now I get poon on a very infrequent basis. I can't simply forget what GF did for me.

>>85903053
>but Time Baby was a jobber, to show how powerful Bill is

That's not good. If you have to resort to jobbing then you've failed as a writer and yes this applies to both Wolverine and Worf too

>>85903312
it does but they also had to write out the time people out of the plot

>>85903326

Meaning they wrote themselves into a corner which is again, a sigh of a bad writer.

Honestly I don't think Weirdmageddon was gonna happen at all and I really doubt Bill was gonna be THE major antagonist.

I think they where setting something else up (Maybe involving aliens) and then Alex said "fuck it let's just have a big fight with bill"

>>85903348
Bill never did feel like a a real villain
every time they meet him he lost, comically
Gideon was a better villain overall

>>85903225
Was with you up until you plugged Fatass Universe.

Now, my life has gotten better, and I'm over this show. There are a few cartoons I watch like Gumball, Star, and Loud House, though they can't match the level of hype Gravity Falls generated besides a few select episodes.

>>85903401

It was just weird that he was suddenly ALL POWERFUL except not really EYE POKE!

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>>85903416
I'm sorry, can't handle that we got all the lore you never did?

>>85899541
As with most of /co/ hate, it's just a very very loud minority.

>>85903416

Reading compression, nignog. Whether or not you like Steven Universe doesn't change that people looking for lore heavy children's shows migrated to it. Don't get so huffity-puffity triggered.

>>85903287

Now that you guys mention it, I actually do want to compare GF to SU. I know that Steven Universe is very divisive, but I think there is something critically important that Steven Universe does: it's written in more-or-less real time. This isn't an opinion. It's objectively true that Steven is aging and that the show is changing as time changes. That is not good or bad, just a fact, so bear with me you fucking jackals.

Gravity Falls was not written in real time. And gravity falls was never supposed to be. It took place over a single summer, and to the characters that was only three months. I don't want to justify flat writing, but Gravity Falls is definitely consistent from start to finish-- it's just, we, as an audience weren't. When the ride is that long, I think we all kind of wanted things to be a lot more grandiose than they wound up being.

>>85899541
Some of it are legitimate gripes and flaws from how the finale was handled.

A lot of it was amplified by /co/ being the pathetic waifufags that ever existed and white knighted for Manzi when Alex broke up with her.

>>85903584
>>85903650
Fatshit Universe lore is dripfed tepid garbage, mate.

Don't try to use this shows failings as a chance to big up your own, you vultures.

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>>85903709

very sorry to have triggered you, ma'am. will make sure to mark the appropriate tags on future reblogs.

>>85903740
You keep using that word.

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>>85903650
Now I won't completely trash you post like >>85903709 but you have to consider that the audience of SU is much different than GF. The tone of each series is much different. I've always disliked Rebecca Sugar's writing, because in Adventure Time, you was always some shit about crying over something that really didn't matter. Obviously AT tanked for a number of reasons, but in Sugar's own show, instead of getting a mix of Sugar's horseshit and what once was other good stuff in AT, we get a consistent concentrated dose of crying over stupid shit. Even if SU can recognise that it happens with in universe meta, that doesn't mean that we can simply say, they know their own cartoon is shit and move on. SU is much less serialized than GF, even though it really should be the opposite. in SU I get every villian ever shoehorned in as a redeemed character, but why? Why should I care that blue water rock lesbian is fighting for the protags side? Why should I care that small autismo is now awful comic relief. Instead of tackling real things in SU, like Sugar's influences, we get little baby shit. You can clearly see that Sugar is influence by magical girl shows, and for fucks sake we got a direct Eva reference, but SU fails to improve on it's influence's ideas, or create it's own with any semblance of worth. I won't argue the fanbase is shit, because GF had a similar thing, but in GF I like the the porn. To each his own. SU, unlike it's competition, never started strong, and can't close to gap between comedy and serious.

>>85902963
>how'd Stan get him memory back so easily?
Also if he was just able to get his memory back, how does that kill Bill for good? Clearly his memories weren't completely destroyed.

Also there was a lot of missed potential with the way Mabel and Dipper's relationship mirrored Stan and Ford's. Dipper going home to be with Mabel played into that, but there was no reason why they couldn't both just stay at Gravity Falls. Surely Mabel could have worked for Stan and enrolled in Gravity Falls school while Dipper did his apprenticeship with Ford.

>>85904004
>Mabel could have worked for Stan and enrolled in Gravity Falls school while Dipper did his apprenticeship with Ford.
Just like Stan, I'm sure that Mabel would be plenty happy if her brother just took her with him, education or not.

Plus, she probably has more friends in Gravity Falls.

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>>85899541
>the ending
Bill is so dumb. He scored 0/0/0.
How could that fucking triangle lose with all his shits?

>>85904004
>Mabel could have stayed in Gravity Falls
this is objectively wrong. Where Dipper would be working under someone with multiple doctorates, D&M's parents would have expected that they would return at the end of summer. Dipper gets an exception because of the real opportunity, but what kind of parent would let their kid just stay at a vacation spot, to live there for the remainder of their childhood? It's not a realistic conclusion. Even Dipper staying if questionable, due to his age. Mabel doesn't even get the benefit of consideration, there would be no real reason to have her stay is GF outside of the summer.

>>85904193
>but what kind of parent would let their kid just stay at a vacation spot, to live there for the remainder of their childhood?
The same kind that dumps them off at a secluded relative they hardly even know for three months without checking up on them once.

>>85904193

Kids go away to school all the time. Fuck a lot of countries send their brats off to boarding school.

It's not unrealistic if Mable and Dipper find a place they can actually fit in for a change that their parents would let them stay and instead of having summer break in GF they come home

>>85904321
>kids go away to school all the time
since when were dipper and mabel boarding school tier. Boarding school is some thing yuropoors and saudis do. American's don't just whisk their children away prior to the completion of high school.

>find a place where they fit in for a change
[citation needed] how did Mabel not fit in before?

It's unrealistic, and you have failed to make it a realistic scenario.

>>85904435
>since when were dipper and mabel boarding school tier.

it's an example you tit.

>how did Mabel not fit in before?

well for starters no one's putting gum in their hair and they have friends who aren't each other.

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>>85903880

>>85904477
see
>>85903205

>>85904528
He should shut up and stick to porn.

>>85899810
off the top of my head, Bill rather casually implied that Soos knew way more than he was letting on.

then Soos became Repairman child and nothing came of it.

>>85902507
Her moms dead, Her dad built the Mysteryshack, and the NorthWests kinda killed alot of her extended family.

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>>85904528
This shit and the episode where Dipper gets fucking chastised for just trying to build confidence with girls was when I realized Alex was a fucking cuck

>>85901136

This and Wendy getting no character development bothered me the most probably, along with Mabel's character getting screwed over. Bill was a meme character yes but also before, there was a sense of paranoia with him, the characters faced real character conflict when he appeared, and the AMA as him had some R & M style humor that was pretty good but once his plan succeeded he mostly sat around doing nothing but making stupid mistakes and the apocalypse wasn't very weird or threatening. The huge Mabel dramatic moment that made the Internet explode also fizzled into absolutely nothing.

It wasn't bad, it was good, but I feel like it could have been better, now maybe parts of the show were only good because the crew over exerted themselves and fought Disney which mostly wants safe mediocrity.

>>85905164

seriously Mable spends ALL SUMMER doing this shit to the point where she has a scrapbook of her attempts

>>85903401
I don't know if I agree with that because Gideon was never scary and got instantly redeemed in five seconds for no reason. I think Bill could have been a good villain and also once they had an actual plot was actually intended as the main villain of the show, but all the massive foreshadowing and ciphers for him didn't really pay off, say the wheel didn't actually mean anything, you thought he had this massive intricate keikaku but he just wanted to throw a little party which the PPG did years ago. Which could be funny but Bill's character was already sort of built on the idea of a silly thing being scary and for a finale that's also kind of a copout. All the lovecrafty/horror fan art for Bill is edgy but I would have preferred something closer to that. Or at least a more Shiva figure.

>>85899541
>Manzi
>Trump
>no Padippica

That's why.

>>85899541
Joke's on you - i hated the whole thing

>>85905733
I don't think those trivial things are the reason why people who invested four or so years into being fans suddenly turned on it around the same time the finale was released.

>>85904528
Yeah, I hated this shit and it gave me a bit of a dislike towards Mabel, she fucking caused the weirdmageddon and the only punishment she got from it was that she had to come out of her fucking delusion sphere

>>85905866
>I don't think those trivial things are the reason

this is 4chan

>>85906076
>she fucking caused the weirdmageddon
Found the retard

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anyone got a link for all the episodes? i need to catch up.

>>85906231
https://mega.nz/#!3pgVlaKS!HhBd73-50AugTxz67Yqe597-RU4u-hMyK2GfhdbpYWI
Both seasons and the shorts, I think it has the Between the Pines special too but it has been a while since I uploaded this, enjoy

>>85902963
>what was Gideon's deal with Bill
Revenge and to get Mabel, that's why he had the key to the bubble.

>what was Ford doing all those years
>what happened to Blendin?

All of those are in the journal.

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>Why did /co/ hate the ending and turn on Alex Hirsch
I think it's obvious

>>85899541
Bill was horrible in second season.
It suddenly went all pimp nigga instead being majestic crazy gentleman

>>85906542
In fact Bill was big attraction of the show but at the end bill is just disappointment.

>>85899541
>Dipper seems to have ended up with Wendy, despite being established, twice, that they're not romantically meant for each other.
>Pacifica essentially got the short end of the stick in terms of character growth, despite warming up to Dipper in NMM. While the ship is not outright sunk, it still went nowhere, no thanks to the creator's health.
>The forum likes to scapegoat Mabel for causing the apocalypse, without taking into account how much of a role each member of the Pines family played in the grand scheme of things.
>Bill's death and Stan's sacrifice were rather pointless, to say the least.
>The Cipher Wheel was a lie, even though I respect the creator for his share of plot twists.
>Even if some good came out of this finale, all those flaws have ultimately sapped our ability to appreciate the realistic ending as highly as we would have liked to.

tldr; In my opinion, a good finale with some story elements that really needed to be properly ironed out.

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Alex sounds a lot like Billy West when he does Bill. I always thought it would be amusing if reincarnation turned out to be non-linear and Bill wound up reborn as Fry. It would be a fitting karmic punishment.

>>85901897
>The order of the holy mackerel doesn't exist for one

It does according to the journal. Or did, anyway. There's a page in it from after Ford returns detailing his thoughts on his brother's appearance, and notes that Stan's fez was actually the one their dad used to wear while a member of the Order of the Holy Mackerel. Sadly, it gives no further details about the Order.

>>85906765
What pissed me off was, the only fight left in Paciffica at all should have been for the necessary 1 against Bill (enough suspension of disbelief that she wouldn't just be a broken gibbering wreck by that point), but it's like the writers went out of their way to keep her being an ass-hole. It looked shoehorned. Just goes to show how writers of Disney shows always cling to their original intent with antagonists and don't really let them evolve in another direction no matter how much the character tends toward it.

>>85900084
>>Underdeveloped characters
>>>Didn't feel like that
¿who is pacifica?

>>85907093
That's what bullying does to people, Hirsch never expected Paciffica to get over with the audience.

>>85907152
Her role would have been planned out long before the redemption arc anyways, and given the burden on Season 1's production, sticking with his original intentions was probably the easier choice, but even then, that excuse is kind of moot.

Hopefully, should he return back to Disney one day after wrapping things up with his show at FOX, and any success that the new Pikachu movie finds, Hirsch would learn from his mistakes with the finale, and has enough experience to flesh out Pacifica's arc a lot better, even if it's as little as a new book, short, or even a spin-off.

>>85907201
>flesh out Pacifica's arc a lot better, even if it's as little as a new book, short, or even a spin-off.
Now that's pandering.

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>>85907230
As long as the redemption goes somewhere, it would hardly matter.

A man can dream, though. A man can dream.

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>>85902963
>Those being straight up hate for the rich
Nothing wrong with that

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>>85906765
>>Dipper seems to have ended up with Wendy, despite being established, twice, that they're not romantically meant for each other.

Are you retarded? Fucking seriously? Giving a hat for someone is suddenly a promise to fuck in the future? The fuck is wrong with you autists?

Also, shipping was NEVER seriously important to the show, Pacifica and Dipper is the only "canon" one and is only implied.

You ship obssessed fucks are cancer.

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>>85907201
You forgot crossover appearances.

>>85907434
Did you mean to say Candy or is your post that ironic?

>>85899541
We turned on Hirsch long before the ending m8.
Long, long before.

>>85907434
The triggering and salt is strong with this shitpost.

>>85907434
Seriously why the fuck do these nerds care so much about fictional dating? Is it a self-insertion thing?

>>85907565
When he couldn't get his shit together enough to do a mid-tier flash show for cable and Disney in decent amounts of time.

>>85907655
Personally, I had even less respect for cable in general over this. People paid $90 a month + installation fees + got commercials on the channels and cable can't even manage something that's clearly at the level of the kind of show you used to see for free on broadcast? Real mystery why people think nothing of pirating, huh?

>>85907520
I don't get it.

>>85907599
I just despise shippers in general. I really don't know how anyone can read Wendy exchanging hats with Dipper as anything other than a demonstration of friendship, given the context.

>>85907627
A lot of them don't have much experience interacting with humans.

>>85907400
Just comes off as petty anon

>>85907905
>I don't get it.

>>85907434 points out what stupid shipper logic it is to call Wendip canon and calls Padipica canon in the next sentence.

>>85899541
because they are autistic

>>85902351
or maybe they just are not a dumb-ass

>>85904528
> Mabel in a nutshell

>>85907905
>A lot of them don't have much experience interacting with humans.
Makes sense

>>85907434
>shipping is stupid
>Padippica is the only canon ship
>no fucking confirmation of any feelings in the show and only vague hints in some game and book tie-in, characters hate each other in most eps
>not Melody and the gay cops or Dipper's one-sided to Wendy

shot yourself in the fucking foot there

I admit that coming here sometimes sours me on Padippica

>>85908150
>calls Padipica canon in the next sentence.

It IS canon that they have feelings for each other, it is on the journal. Never implied more than it.

>>85899541

Because /co/ spent too much time theorising and created their own headcanon that they were upset when hirsch didn't use it

I watched GF since the very start before it got big and never went on /gfg/, and I thoroughly enjoyed the show the whole way through

>>85910030

I've read the journal, Dipper just says, "Is it just me, or was there a weird vibe there?" and that Pacifica "smells nice, that's it. Pacifica also gets embarrassed that she hugged Dipper in one line of the video game. I wouldn't even call that enough for a confirmed crush on either side, let along "canon." Vague potential for something to happen one day maybe, but not canon like Dipper's crush on Wendy is canon. Hell Candy and Dipper is more "canon" since they had an onscreen "date."

Bitching about Padippicaa seems especially ironic because Alex said that Pacifica was meant to be 100% horrible and that any good traits or depths were fans projecting and the two "redemption" episodes and tiny Padippica nods were all to throw said delusional fans a bone. Seeing no Padippica as a "flaw" seems fucking weird, and calling it more "canon" then Wendip makes no sense.

>>85910003
>>85910030

Also, no one "shipped" the characters that you were talking about. Melody was there for one episode, the same that stabelished her relationship. Hardly "shipping", and nobody usually even mention her.

Dipper one sided crush was that, one sided, treated as hopeless since the FIRST time that they mentioned it. With Pacifica it is obvious what the writters were doing, and they leave hints of deeper feelings for each other o suplementary materials. So closest we have to an actual canon ship for Dipper, the only one that the creators treat as a serious possibility.

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>>85910265
Ok, this is when I stop arguing with these people, if they can't get obvious intent of the writters, while they use common and well know tropes of children’s cartoons, and believe that the relationship of a younger character (that can't even reach Wendy's knees) is more likely to happen on a fucking Disney channel.

>>85910369

Why are shippers so fucking deluded? Padippica, a serious possibility? More like a little shout-out to said shippers. Guess they shouldn't have put that. You're calling Wendip shippers delusional? What the fuck?

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>/co/ hated the ending
Doesn't surprise me since /co/ seems to have as much shit taste as /a/. Gravity Falls had a terrific ending that was well thought out, didn't get resolved with a shonen or heroic cliché and was believable in the terms of Bill Cipher, the most power being in the universe, being beaten by a bunch of humans. The only thing that seemed like a cheap throw in was Stanley losing his memories then quickly getting them back. Other than that, Gravity Falls as a whole is a solid 9 and it's one of the best shows I've seen in a long time.

Also, happy birthday Dipper and Mabel.

>>85910548
Is there ever going to be a sequel series? Is so I hope it isn't Korra tier.

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>Mfw people thought that Wendip was REALLY going to happen.

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Happy birthday GF

>>85910548

>/co/ seems to have as much shit taste as /a/
you have to go back

>Gravity Falls had a terrific ending
/co/umblr is real

>also, happy birthday Dipper and Mabel
>>>/trash/

>>85910778
It'll happen when Hirsch runs out of merch money and finds out he's a one and done.

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What is the nip obsession with this series that they're tweeting all this crap like it's a national holiday?

>>85903287
He's not wrong though. SU's fanbase is composed of GF lorefags, ex-bronies and a fair share of stereotypical SJWs.

>>85911288
Tbh GF is a lot easier to get into than SU.

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Here's hoping the inevitable live action reboot gets a proper season 3

>>85911288
And I have a feeling the gay chubby chasers will be migrating to SU now that the Gravity Falls is over like the shotafags migrated to The Loud House

>>85911490
Why would anyone want this?

>>85911586
/co/ has shit taste.

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>>85911586
>not wanting a reworked S2/S3

>>85911490
trevor larcom is real life cartman

>>85911490
I would fap to that Wendy all night. Not that I don't already do that with the cartoon Wendy.

>>85907400
You are a tremendous faggot and should become a Buddhist monk to at least spare the world from your edginess.

t. forever a poorfag

>>85910792
I legitimately wanted Pacifidip to happen

>>85903650
>>85903709
>>85903880
Why does everything single thread have to turn into shitting on SU? Can't we find something else to talk about? I swear, half of the anons here are just /pol/acks in denial.

>but in GF I like the the porn.
Okay then.

>>85911555
Where will us triangle/monster fellows go?

>>85910841
This makes me a little sad.

>>85912203
Why does every thread have to have some tumblrite bring up shit universe? If you don't want someone shitting on a piece of shit, don't shoehorn it into the thread.

>>85904263
where were you when they called when stan lost the mystery shack to gideon fuckwit

>>85912424
I dunno, man. Comparisons and inferences are one thing. Shitposting and trolling are an entirely different game, I reckon.

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>>85912399
>implying it isn't explicitly show that Timmy ends up with Tootie acording to what is show on the future.

>implying that anything on Pacifica was OOC or retconed later, considering that it was implied that she had a better side on a previous episode and no other episode focused on her after this

>comparing FOP with GF, when one has a linear plot, and the other is random gag show that doesn't care much about continuity

>Caring about shipping on fucking FOP, of all things

Damn, shippers are retarded. Is it hard to get that the only thing that matter is the source material and what is produced by the creator?

>>85911490
I am.... More okay with this than I thought I would be...

>>85913244
>huge Padippica shipper calling shippers retarded

ok

>>85913459
Because FOP is a comedic show that DON'T care seriously to shipping, unlike shippers.

And I also don't get your complain. Pacifica went to ridicously rich, to just super rich, and you treat it as a tragedy.

>>85913244
FOP actually did more with its shipping than Gravity Falls did. There wasn't an episode where Dipper had to actually make a choice.

As soon as a fandom or worse a show focuses on which "couple" will end up together it inevitably turns to shit.

I appreciated Pinecestfags and other crack shippers who never expected anything (minus a few trolls here who who posted "Pinecest should have happened" bait, since that was just bait).

This was a comedy show about kids.

>>85913631
And what kind of development came out of it?

What kind of lasting effect?

>>85913578
The thug is that I just don't care about who Dipper stick his dick, I only care about what the writters intended and the canon. If Dipper had showed the same hints with some shit like Gideon, I would say the same thing to people who would have shipped him with Pacifica.

>>85913767
>the point about Pacifica was that the storyline promised with her in NWMM never materialized, and the development she got took several steps backward.

What the hell army you talking about? I think that you are kind of injecting your headcanon here, there wasn't any promised storyline apart from the implications tgat her family worshiped Bill, and thus there was no backward development, because again, she barely appear or regress to her previous characterization on the next episodes.

>>85913676
I'm not saying that there was any actual development, there really wasn't because of status quo. I'm saying it had episodes that encourages shipping just as much as this. None of the implied romance between Pacifica and Dipper ended up mattering and despite attempting to discredit Wendip several times, it ended on a small hint between them.

>>85913768

The writers gave a nod to Pacifica/Dipper fans in the Journal but were always consistent saying there was no real shipping with the kids in the show because in their mind they were too young and Pokemon and Poptarts nothing was actually going with anyone. That's what was canon and what they intended. Alex said in an interview that a tiny crack had opened for the twins to not completely hate Pacifica now but that is all. Pacifica in the canon probably still mostly think that they're losers and Dipper thinks she's not all bad but that's hardly enough to say Padippica or Mabifica or even them being friends or anything are "canon."

>>85913975
>the promised storyline was pacifica redeeming her family name,

No? It just promised that Pacifica would try to do it by being a better person than themost, but it never is implied to be some arc that will be devoted to.

>>85912209
Monster Musume?

>>85911763
No, the new actor playing Ben in the IT remake is real life Cartman

>>85914104
Holly shit man, don't br autistic. She went from cartoonish rich, to just incredibly rich, and you are talking like Mcguget didn't worked hard as fuck to deserve what he got.

>>85914110
Not monstrous enough for me.

>>85914164
Stop trying, you are arguing with a bunch of women.

Reminder that Wendy's hat gonna be full of white stains by the end of 2016.

>>85914437
>sorry Pacifica, you now can have only ONE PONY.

The entire joke was them making fun of treating becoming slightly less rich, as being a huge tragedy.

>>85914370
More like wendip shippers

>>85899541
I know many people that quite liked the ending, including myself. Some people I know thought it was predictable but still not bad.

I mean I wanted more WenDip and Pacifica and Padippica, and I wanted a redemption arc for Mabel... sorta. But still, it was good what was done.

>>85913975
>the promised storyline was pacifica redeeming her family name, which she ended up doing fuck-all to do

You mean like when she let in the party guests in NWMM

>>85911220

>Symbolism

The same reason we are obsessed with evangelion .

>>85899686
it's a spoof of Twin Peaks, and you think people shouldn't have expected deepest lore?

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>>85910792
>Mfw people thought that Wendip was REALLY going to happen.

>>85914881
>well, we dont actually see the conditions they are reduced to, so its a loose ending.

You are retarded.

>it seems to just be a joke to make pacifica still look materialistic? again, part of the backpedalling of her character in the finale.

What is the problem of she being still heavilly materistically but also a better person? It actually makes much more sense, she isn't going to change her entire behavior because of one episode.

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>>85914370
>>85914703
>a bunch of women.
>wendip shippers

You'd actually be surprised at how much of the female audience
A) identifies with/self-inserts as Wendy and
B) finds Dipper adorable.

>>85902507
More like I hope you're happy with writing a Detective Pikachu movie.

>>85915159
He didn't even get the gig.

>>85915093
i've never run across any. i've run across lots of female padippica shippers but the only people i've seen who like wendip are guys into /ss/

>>85915647
tumblr

>>85914370
/co/ is /cgl/ confirmed.

>>85903880
Why is Sugar such a hack?

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>>85906331
>69%
>LOL BROWSER STORAGE IS FULL
the fuck?

>>85899810
The silly President was going to be more involved in the plot.
The key he gave dippers was supposed no be very important.
Most popular theory is it was supposed to be used on that keyhole friend of Bills. What it would do is beyond me but it makes sense.

>>85900083
That seems like asking for the moon for a show like this.

>>85906765
>dipper seems to have ended up with Wendy
You are just making shit up now.

>>85911635
>using a weeaboo anime reaction image on /co/

>>85900613
but what were those people saying? elaborate

>reminder that Alex took so long to go ahead with Season 2 that 60% of the crew, including a large amount of storyboarders and every writer but Matt Chapman, left between seasons

>>85918783
First I've heard of this, but googling it it seems to be a common problem people have had with mega, perhaps see if they offer a solution somewhere