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How's Your Webcomic? #311

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Share your comic with others!
Link your website and portfolio!
Critique and comment on others' work!
Previous thread: >>85773083
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Scrub Authors GOODIE Bag
Here’s a short list of sites that any new webcomic artist or writer will find handy:
>*-Struggling to find that perfect FONT? Create your own using this link;
http://www.myscriptfont.com/

>*-Don’t forget to brush up on that ANATOMY:
http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
http://www.quickposes.com/pages/timed

>*-What’s a list without some reference STOCK IMAGES?
People: http://senshistock.deviantart.com/gallery/
Scenery: http://www.shutterstock.com/

>*-Here's a big fat compilation of CHARACTER DESIGN REFERENCE:
http://www.pinterest.com/characterdesigh/

>Links to get a rough WEBSITE started up:
Easy to use tumblr webcomic theme:https://www.tumblr.com/theme/39018
Do’s and Don’ts for starting a site:http://pastebin.com/kNR2W5mV (embed)

>Contact sheet if anyone wants to put information down, like their site and webcomic:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwfOSHXfrgvcf--PkPz9jXL6p5RqIsrYvXYwgQpgT3k/edit#

>DISCORD CHAT going on,
Ask for an invite in the thread.

>Wise words from John Cleese:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j-Lz0D5_ck

>Invisible Ink:
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_1.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_2.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_3.pdf

>Paper Wings
http://chrisoatley.com/category/podcasts/
https://web.archive.org/web/20140625035030/http://paperwingspodcast.com/

>Fonts for your webcomic on Blambot:
http://www.blambot.com/

>Writing Resources:
http://www.cienciasecognicao.org/rotas/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Robert-McKee-Story.pdf

>Guide to promoting your comic:
http://miss-melee.tumblr.com/post/143483233951/

>Comics for makin' comics!
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/9pf1nwwa92lbp/Comics_for_making_Comics
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>>85898163
Oh yeah, that dude.
Well he's short, has brown hair, practically no eyes, and not to mention he lacks the glorious chin that Brenner has.

Also, Danger Dave isn't even Raven's character. Woah, now that's something to make you think.
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Updated today! Having a lot more fun with it after taking a few weeks off

https://m.tapastic.com/series/The-Tuneful-Tales-of-Milly-Melodia
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>>85899385
awww an urchin!
hey, that shade of pink works with the white text, but I think you should use a darker pink when it's appearing alongside black text, yknow
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>>85899385
Nice style. I like the colors as well. I think k the monologue is a little too long, because I felt like I already got where it was going before finishing it. The idea could have been conveyed in only one picture and lesa sentences, but overall looks pretty good man. There's movement and interesting camerawork.
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Hi /hywc/. I don't have anything for you today, just like I had nothing for you yesterday, or the days before.

I'm too fucking depressed to work on comics, even though working on comics is all I want to do. I don't think I'm cut out for this industry, for any of this. I don't know what to do anymore. I'm just not good enough and I don't know how to be good enough.
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>>85902034
depression sucks
try being okay with not being good enough. none of us are, after all
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>>85902034
>I don't know how to be good enough.

Work on your shit.
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>>85902034
https://youtu.be/CVEuPmVAb8o

Why don't you try doing something else? When you find the field you are good at you are bound to be happy working on it.
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>>85902702
I really need to do this. I need to start from the ground up again. But then, I feel like that will get me even more behind my peers, and I'll still be a failure as they continue to soar past me.
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>>85902880
>all the things i'm good at don't make money because i lack the additional talents and skills that allow me to monetize the ones i do have, even though i have tons of massive skills and talents
fuck
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>>85885876
hey, sorry i missed your reply in the last thread. thanks for all the links and stuff, i'll check those out.

i've actually read the whole scott mccloud understanding comics series when i was younger, but it's been so long most of my memory of it is gone so i'll go ahead and read those again.

i don't have a website up yet as i just started working on this a couple weeks ago and i'm just doing test pages atm, but i'm planning to put it up eventually.

thanks again.
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>Finally start webcomic, already got to that "Holy shit I already see improvements from my old pages" stage
>Still haven't finished prologue, and don't wanna post here until then
>Because I don't post here, literally nobody knows about my webcomic other than friends
>Desperate for attention, yet scared for /hyw/ to see my stuff without the entirety of this prologue

Am I being too much of a faggot here? I'm honestly scared to post my stuff here without the right context to some stuff, because without alot of the context alot of my stuff is a little bit retarded
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>>85903336
Prove any of our initial misconceptions wrong as it goes. We're pretty much forced to keep track of it if you post it in here regularly with an attractive enough thumbnail.

If you're easily discouraged wait it out, though.
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>>85903336
I don't get why people are so afraid of posting on this thread, this is a huge hugbox for the most part.
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>>85903706
Just because you said that, I am going to make the worst webcomic ever in spite and update it daily on these threads.
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>>85903566
I'll gladly start posting my stuff once I'm happy with how my stuff is after a while. This will honestly be the first place I'd post my stuff, because 4chan is the perfect place for my awful humor

>>85903706
I have no clue why I'm afraid to be honest. Maybe because the fact that if even the hugbox hates you, then you have some major problems
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>>85903336
What >>85903706 said. Hell, when I posted my comics here nobody commented half the time. And half of half of the time they did it was to comment on how androgynous one of the characters looked. Nobody is going to attack you unless it's the typical /pol/ SJW shitposting that seems to plague every thread on /co/ now.
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>>85903336
You're being a little bit too much of a pansy, yeah. that, to be honest, doesn't actually help with the whole 'scared to show us stuff' part. a little humility goes a long way, yeah, but acting that scared just puts everyone on edge, yknow? like when you're trying to calm a scared animal and it makes sudden jerky movements, now YOU'RE scared

Your idea to give context is absolutely valid though. Context is the difference between a good and a bad impression, especially when posting to a community instead of an audience that willingly went to your site. So by all means, give us that. Give us goddamn paragraphs of text explaining what your creative process is like. Some of us find that really really interesting. Others don't give a fuck, and they will just ignore it
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>>85903780
Well, Bones did that for years as a hobby. Nothing new here.
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>>85903817
I'll gladly be a pansy now than an idiot forever, and if you want context being dead serious my entire comic is basically an excuse for me to make fun of my past self, so a lot of the characters are literal shitty OC's that I made over the years, including edgy fucks and almost literal memes that I had to rework the designs of to be a little more presentable. So far in the prologue it just seems like they are all seriously my serious characters, which is why I don't wanna post stuff because people would be asking a lot of questions
There is an actual story too, but that's for another day
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>>85903960
that actually sounds pretty clever. my suggestion is that you never get too mean-spirited about it. have fun with your past self, gentle ribbing, not too cruel.. because a lot of us had that past self, some of us still are.
that, and make a legit story at the same time. don't just ride that premise for the whole comic
just my two cents
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>>85904019
No don't worry, that isn't the main purpose of my story, but it's sortof how I designed all my characters, and it's the reason they all sortof work off each other, because in the end the majority of them are basically me.

Also while I'm at it I can summarize the main plot of the story, this isn't the first time I've done this on these threads either so this might sound familiar
Basically there is some online game, this game being some big MMO hangout spot for a bunch of losers. One day the creator mysteriously disappears and everything starts slowly going into chaos as a bunch of admins and moderators have to use what they got to fix everything themselves
If you see someone within this year posting a comic like that just assume it was me. If you don't just assume I was a pussy and either never continued making it or I never posted it here
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>>85903887
Well shit.
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>>85903336
You're most likely to get ignored.
But, If you want replies post a girl with a big ass.
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>>85904124
ohh i remember you mentioning that idea! It's really interesting. Pretty damn cerebral, sure, not going to be super engaging as a plot, so it's going to have to ride on the character interactions, their feelings, their behaviors.. but it sounds like you have a lot of shit to draw from, so hopefully they'll be interesting. I'll give it a try either way
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Still need to clean it up, but here's the lines for the next page of Lido.
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>>85904534
i like how she's so freaked out that she's not paying attention. also those are weird leaves.
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>>85904130
great strip keep it up
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>>85904560
She's the contemplative type. And they are! I love the tree they come from, it's really fascinating.
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how do i into backgrounds
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>>85900186
>>85901799

Thanks for the feedback! As for the pink, the original intent was to go with something pulled directly from her color palette, but I'll play around with a darker shade next time
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>>85905422
That's better than what I can do.
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>>85898224
>Wise words from John Cleese
You put the wrong link in there. This is the proper link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfl6Lu3xQW0
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>>85898194
>>85898224

Good to see the real "Wise words from John Cleese" back, despite what any chuckling Master Rusemen say.

However, this is /hyw/ #312, not #311.
The next thread will be #313.
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>>85902880
>Prager U
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>>85906181
>Good to see the real "Wise words from John Cleese" back
But it's not the real one. See >>85906150
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>>85905422
It looks like you started following the rules of two point perspective with the counter in the foreground and then gave up on applying it to the rest of your scenery. Having a reference would help consistency in scale like your really large cash register there.
You'd be better off sketching out your composition with the position of your characters in mind before drawing this clean, hardline illustration.
Look up how most concept artist start sketching their compositions. They usually have 6-8 small rough sketches before moving on to the real deal. The more you practice that, the easier it'll be for you to develop interesting backgrounds.
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>>85906315
I was wondering when a leftist fag would leave a comment about the channel, but I could never have expected the tarnishing of my favorite show, being used as a bad reaction gif by aforementioned faggot.

Well played.
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These threads are a good idea. Let this not be the last.


Those of you with Clip Studio Paint (aka Manga Studio 5) may want to take a look at "Learn Clip Studio Paint".
http://www.learncsp.com/

Of particular use to me was how to make and organise a font list, so you can just choose from a hand picked selection (eg all comics lettering fonts), rather than scrolling through every font you have.
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>>85903706
When they acknowledge you.
I dumped a wip last thread and didn't get jack.
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>>85905422
That's not bad.
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>>85903706
Because it's a hugbox. That's no way to improve, look at Dobson for example. The guy complains about getting negative criticism online for his work after being so used to receiving praise from his peers and loved ones. Now he just seeks an audience that won't bring up his shitty fetishes or hypocrisies every five minutes.

Also this >>85909053
I've asked for feedback on sketches before, but the threads usually die before I get anything besides "That looks good."
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Opinions needed.

How does the idea of a guild owned by a single individual sound? I wanted to originally call it a business but thought a company of the scale it's going to be in a fantasy setting would seem off.
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>>85909248
Agreed. /hyw/ was a mistake. I declare this to be the last thread. May no OP make another.
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>>85906081
No offense to that anon, but it isn't as hard as it looks. You could nail the basics in a day or two and have them as part of your tool kit forever.
Simple perspective is nowhere near figure drawing levels of difficult. For one thing, it is 100 times easier to fake. With a little practice you can just about eyeball 2 point.
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>>85909248
Actually, all I got was a Bleach joke and a knock at using animal characters. This place is very kind to finished work, but snarky to WIPs. The problem isn't either as much as the lack of content behind comments.
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>>85909638
Look, I'm not saying I hate these threads. I just prefer lurking more now than sharing. I still draw inspiration from seeing peoples work, or at least I get to understand what other people are struggling with. No need to go full sarcasm about it.
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>>85909248
It wasn't always pure shit. I've gotten some good and harsh critique here. Not for a few months, though.
It is hugbox, sure, but it is also a dedicated troll thread of the worst sort. I've got a guy who usually post within minutes to tell me I suck. His low hanging fruit style of posting gives him away every time.
Dude, I know.
Otherwise, I just get ignord.
However your main point stands. The thread isn't really helpful right now.
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>>85909763
It is one of the dedicated shitposts, anon. It isn't personal or even an attempt at sarcasm. It's this threads equivalent of rain.
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>>85909464
How would a privately owned guild work? Are you calling it a guild to make it fantasy sounding?
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>>85909464
Worrying about a concept not sounding old/mysterious enough for your fantasy and sticking to the usual terminology is how you write a fantasy world everyone's seen a million times before. What's the point? Modern concepts make it more immediately relatable and there's a twist in the expectations of the reader with it. If "business" matches their intentions better, by all means, call it a business. Put them in a medieval office building with a moat around it and a drawbridge. Have some fun.
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>>85909770
You're not helping it any either with a shit post like that, champerino.
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>>85910398
>champarino
What a smug little faggot you are.
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>>85910185
coo, I might do that
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>reading some Nth article about making sure your characters are unique so I can share it with a scrub friend
>External goal, internal need
>realize one of my protagonists' internal need is too nebulous or just not there
Fuck. What now?
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>>85909248
Wait, I think you are missing the point of my post... I am talking about the people who don't post here because they are afraid we will mock them, trash their work. They think we are savages on these threads, they don't know it's actually pretty much a hugbox.
If there are other type of people who don't post here because they know it's a hugbox, that's a totally different problem.
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>>85911090
Think about it and figure out who they are
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I'm planning on doing a 50 page comic and I'm in the process of writing the script.

any tip?

It's about a girl who gets a gift from her grandma, is teleported to a trial place filled with monsters and now she is separated into two bodies, each one with an oposite personality (ice-fire), she then learn to deal with her own self and return to the world, but now separated.
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>>85911310
Don't start with a page goal unless you understand why you're shooting for it.

Start by actually drafting out the story without worrying about page count. Then revise and structure it into pages. Then determine how many pages you want and revise accordingly.

Whether you're an artist or not, I recommend making a visual guide to understand your composition and how pages and panels relate to each other

From there, you just keep revising.
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>>85911216
I tried.
I think that I'm having trouble because I can't really figure out how an overly assertive, hyper-social person would come to be. Especially if she is under her 20s.
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>>85910801
At least I possess basic spelling skills, "champarino."
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>>85911410
I don't think starting with a set pagecount from the get-go is neccesarly a bad idea... that's how comics tend to work in the profesional world- usually editors tell you "we have x pages, do something with them".
Of course, webcomics don't have that limitation, but I think saying "I can do x pages a month so I'll do a x pages story" is as good a starting point as any other.
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>>85911446
I actually dated a girl just like that. She was insufferable.
She was literally a clone of her mother. I could see the progression in my minds eye, it was like one of those fucking posters where they show the evolution of humans from apes.
She was 19 at the time.

Some people are literally born that way.
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>>85911446
If you can't understand what an aggressively assertive person want for themselves vs what they want from others, you either don't understand people very well or wrote a shit character. The very nature of a person like that is usually a feedback loop: they exert control over other people's lives in order to maintain a feeling of control over themselves, but since they cause friction in acting in this way and CAN'T control other people they feel as if they lack agency in their own lives, which means they try to assert control.
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>>85911574
If you're working with an understanding of schedule or limitations, sure. That's not what anon is doing. They appear to have grabbed a number out of the air. That's bad when it's as high as 50.
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>>85911473
I bet you can do your ABCs pretty good too. The bitches you must pull, amirite?
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>>85911310
Characters with a theme of duality always fascinate me. Are you going to favor either side in the narrative as the protagonist, or are you going to make sure both sides are balanced in representing the girl? Is she emotionally unbalanced or otherwise self-loathing prior to the split and learning to like her other half will act as a metaphor for her mental health? Will the way back home be immediately apparent, and if there are trials, is there going to be a central antagonist in charge of them?
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>>85902980
Who cares about what anyone else is doing. I don't know what metric you're using to define peer, but it's usually age. If it is, don't fucking do that. Judge your improvement against yourself. No one else.
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>>85911742
pretty well*
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>>85912108
I dunno lol.
But I'll try to put some emotional conflict as they reach the rewards of the path of trials.
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>>85912146
Stud. Your todally wynning thys.
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>Will never be able to make a character with the same name as you because people will assume its self inserting
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>>85913211
My name is uncommon so it's actually impossible. But it's a stupid name so I wouldn't use it anyway.
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So I usually draw and write when I have an idea or inspiration, but I want to get more work done. Do I have to force myself to make ideas? And whats a good way to do this? Cause I read that companies like Marvel and DC have people coming up with new content like all the time, and I feel worthless for struggling to come up with ideas for my own projects.
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>>85913211
My name is one of the most common names in the English-speaking world so it's not an issue for me.
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ever turn strange conspiracy you have about friends and people into stories?
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>>85913211
>made a character of my story a Chicago bears fan
>Friend said I was self inserting because I'm a Bears fan
>mfw
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>>85906181
oh god dammit, i was wondering if i fucked up the numbering
>>85906315
yeah that was a neat surprise. i'd go watch the rest of the videos but, yknow, I don't need a bunch of shit supporting what I already know. I know some easily-coerced people who could benefit from it though
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>>85913396
Anon don't force your ideas, that's not how it works. If you want to get ideas just go outside, be active, etc. being in a new environment will make you more creative. im a bit lucky in the idea department because I'm constantly having dreams that I can refine to make sense.
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>>85914804
calling bullshit on this. many writers are shut ins. im looking at you oda
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>>85911446
Probably positive feedback. being social has given her lots of friends. having friends makes her happy. the fact that you cant figure out a deeper inner need for her indicates she probably doesn't have one. she's been riding on social support her whole life, and if her friends left her she'd be a husk. use that.
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>>85914736
>Character is a fan of the same team as you and another 30 million people
>Self insert

How?
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>>85914834
The only time I go out is to go to work and eat with my friends once a week. Like I said, I'm lucky in the idea department because my subconscious is fucking weird. You don't have to go out, it just helps. If you "force" an idea you end up with shit.
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>>85914870
I dunno. The only things this particular character and I have in common are that we're both male and fans of DA BEARS
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>>85914696
Sometimes, but they're usually really boring.
I have a bad habit of thinking "ooh wouldn't it be a nice twist if it turns out (complicated network of lies that mislead the reader and satisfy them as they find out how it really went)?" and then it's so hard to come up with appropriate people, places, and events to suit that, because I'm not greg weisman. But does that mean I shouldn't use the one really good one I thought up? in the end, I use them, it comes off as really artificial and lame. that's the problem with a webcomic being used as a general allpurpose creative outlet
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>>85914696
actually yes.

At my college my roommate would always go hang out in the underground tunnels underneath the campus and he was always real secretive about it. I'm sure he was just doing drugs or something but I wrote a short story about students forming a cult.
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>>85914834
Meeting a new scenario does have a way of jogging your imagination though. Makes you think in new ways and adapt to weird situations.
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Abnor 29, for all of you who love lots of words per page!

Also again, for you Anon, I am really sorry I took so damn long to respond your email.
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>>85914870
>>85914949
Who ELSE but a bears fan should write a bears fan?
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>>85915041
That's brilliant.
I'm too polite for my own good. I never poke into other people's binnis, I don't know where they go or what they do.. I leave them alone.
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>>85915049
Loved this page so much. Nice when a fantasy comic makes me think of Punchout instead of just RPGs. Tadeu is a goddamn laugh riot.
Loving the comic strips. Shouldn't these be up on the site? They're great. I can't believe how much work you put into backgrounds
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>>85915084
>It says here that you don't like DA BEARS. Care to elaborate?
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>>85915327
by the way, strip 21 should probably say "my grandpa WAS cured, not IS cured"
strip 24.. you don't really say 'an armor', you say a suit of armor, or just armor.
strip 25's first word balloon baffles me. Is that supposed to be "as you know,"? also, it's ragtime gal, not ragtime girl
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>>85914736
What's the character and setting?
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I've always wanted to draw a webcomic as a hobby (like update it occasionally after work and stuff) but never ever tried to draw comics in my life. So for practice I've been doing a Pokemon Nuzlocke comic that I never intended to upload anywhere. Maybe someone could tell me if I suck or not? I'll post a few...
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I've been doing one every day, just for practice.
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This is the last one I'll post so as not to spam.
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>>85915702
An American student teacher in a European Academy.
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>>85915936
Why would a local sports fan move from his local area?
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>>85915327
>>85915517
We offer these strips as first tier reward on Patreon, I am glad you like them! Not many readers have access to these, so it always a pleasure to hear feedback on them.

I'll be sure to fix this stuff, thanks, man!
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>>85915956
Are you serious?
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>>85916015
aw man, well I guess you gotta make yer money somehow.
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It's going ok. Never posted in this thread before, but this is the most recent strip I did. And a link if you're interested in seeing some more:
http://stoopidcomic.tumblr.com/
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>>85916913
This shit's pretty funny, and frequently gets nice and meta, but I feel like your punchlines are largely absent and there's often a lot more panels than there need to be, ending on just an empty panel
Then again I get the feeling it might be my problem
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So, I wrote the script of the first chapter of the comic I'm working right now, if you guys could read and give some advice would help me a lot
http://phantombiird.tumblr.com/post/149711034204/gkf-chapter-1
I also put some of the stuff that is planed out to be in the comic http://phantombiird.tumblr.com/post/149702548339/gkf-things-that-are-in-the-comic
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>>85911604
That was sort of how I was writing others' reaction to her. She does mean good but she is an obnoxious character.

>>85911631
Thanks for the insight.
I just haven't known people that act like that for enough time to know how they think though I have met some when I think of it.
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If you like cartoon animals with action and humor, you are welcome to read:

https://tapastic.com/series/Fighter-Dan
http://fighterdan.cfw.me/
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>>85917354
>shilling this blatant
Fuck off.
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>>85917930
>shilling
>on a thread about showing your webcomics
Unless it was to some extreme extent I don't think you can shill something
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>>85918019
yeah the issue isnt blatancy it's the silly formality of it as if we don't already know this guy
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>>85919638
Are you kidding me? Literally everything about this place would be better if we all typed like hyperformal advertisements.
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>>85920554
only if you're good at it though and you go really funny with it
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>>85920731
Shut the fuck up and let people promote their comics. That's what these threads are for.
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Do people here only draw "rly maeks u thnk" comics?
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>>85917930
>literally the first line in OP is "share your comics with others!"
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>>85921689
hey man i'm just trying to help people do it right
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Let's spice this thread up. Who wants an in depth critique on their webcomic? Will review first three (you)s.
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>>85922153
false flags ahoy
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>>85922153
Brian, is that you?
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>>85922153
Review mine. You have to guess which one it is though.
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>>85922243
Sorry, I'm not as skilled a reviewer as Brian. I'm merely a bored lurker.

>>85922287
>>85922202
It's an offer, take it or leave it.
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>>85915722
>>85915746
>>85915758

Anon, these are very cute and well-drawn. Do you have an art blog?
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How do you write mute characters? Is it hard or rather easy?
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>>85922684
dunno, never tried
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>>85922595
Thank you. I don't have my art hosted anywhere. I'm not all that confident in my drawing ability.
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>>85922684
BODY LANGUAGE!

>>85922736
Aww, shoot. I hope you set something up soon, because I really adore what you're getting at in these strips. Your expressions especially are really funny.

if you set up a blog sooner rather than later m-maybe i can b-be your first follower b-b-baka
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>>85922684
Have you read Koe No Katachi yet?

Mute characters are as easy or hard to write as any other characters. If their muteness has relevance to the plot amd/or their relationship with other characters you'd do well doing some research on that topic. All in all it really depends on what you want to do with it. A mute person will be written differently depending on the genre. Don't play it for laughs in a drama on that topoc and dom't explore it's psychological side in a gag strip.
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>>85922796
Well thank you. That's very kind of you. Maybe someday I'll set something up. Right now i just plan to practice.
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>>85922684
It helps if you give them great body language and expressions. You notice characters like Pom Pom and the Poopsmith have no personality because they just stand there blankly, whereas although you can't understand The Cheat, you still have a hold on his personality. to an extent.
or for a live action example, harpo vs mr homn
I love this comic https://tapastic.com/episode/398475 and it has a main character who rarely talks
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I was thinking about starting up a comic using a sort of stylized graffiti-esque look? Similar to that of Jet Set Radio? Any opinions?
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>>85923955
graffiti is usually either a lot neater than that or a lot messier
but i like the dude at least.
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It's going great. Here's the premise.

A boy falls in love with a girl.

Unable to confess, he is gifted by a deus ex machina with the girl's phone number. Never minding the strange area code, he immediately calls her, and is overjoyed to find out that she has a crush on him as well.

But, the next day, when he recounts the previous day's confessions to the girl, she only looks at him with a perplexed expression. After some investigation, he finds out that the girl he called is not the same girl he fell in love with. In fact, she doesn't exist in this universe at all. She is the girl's alternate universe counterpart, who has fallen in love with the MC's own AU self, who too is blissfully unaware of her crush.

Hijinks ensue as the two strike up a deal to give each other their darkest, most private secrets in order to equip the other with the weapons they need to conquer the heart of their other selves. While the two chase their respective loved ones, DRAMA ensues as they begin to fall in love with each other instead and question the NATURE of LOVE.

OP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycfdfinG_P8
ED1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXDNGS9V4Us
ED2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4DyTjrruVo
PV: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcVGDV67L-g
EP 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_rz1bluG_k
EP 13: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLUjMWRCzic
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>>85924483
Looking good.
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>>85924501
Anon, please...
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>>85924483
Stop posting that because it's already a thing.

https://www.fictionpress.com/s/3206139/1/
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>>85924483
This is the only thing professional level in this sorry thread. Well done, anon. A tip of my hat to you.
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>>85924483
Also here's the mock up animated preview.
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>>85924483
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>>85924483
ALWAYS
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>>85924532
ANON, PLEASE...
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>>85924483
>>>/a/
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>>85924516
>>85924603
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>>85924625
ANON!!! PLEASE!!!
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Finished this page!
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After writing chapter scripts since February, I have finally finished writing the 261 chapters.
I have been going over the chapters with my artist friend and rewriting/reorganizing the chapters.
My friend is the character artist (I can't draw people), and I'm the background person (she can't draw things).
We're beginning to work on paneling and layouts and also wrapping up character designs (she's been drawing them while I've been writing).
I feel super good about this process since Novemebr is when we start drawing chapter 1. We plan to launch our first chapter in Dec 2017, so we're well on track to keep it up as long as I keep focused.
I'm pretty psyched, but the reason why I'm blogging all this bullshit is because of all of you. I see you all working hard and read what you're up to and it inspires me to keep it up, too.

Thank you, /co/
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>>85924768
GOOD WORK, ANON! I hope I can reach that level of hard work one day.
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>>85924768
>261 chapters
Why that specific number?
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>>85924857
That's just where it was when it ended. So far we've deleted two to rewrite them and added three so I guess we're at 262 now.
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>>85915041
You know nothing of our workings, J.
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bumples
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WIP of the first page of chapter 19!

I'm super proud of this page so far!
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>>85926835
oh shit it's like that samurai jack episode. nice.
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>>85926896
Huh, I never really watched samurai Jack.
Probably should, gennedy is one of my major inspirations.
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>>85922684
As others have said, body language is key. Have him "talk" with his hands a lot more than other characters, if the character is more animated it'll be easier to read them without having to talk. Sign language is always an option.

It will however depend a ton of the story itself, because sometimes a character doesn't ever need to talk. The more we know, the easier it would be to assist you. If you have a genre or pitch, that would help greatly.

>>85922243
Always weird/nice to be name-dropped.
Working on some stuff, trying to change up the format for speedier releases and to give people more of what they want without turning it into blatant advertising handjobs. New day job situation hasn't been helping timely releases, not to mention working on more scripts for the Sisters, Pump-Action Sunset, and some comics other artists have asked for my pass on.

>>85922153
Honestly? Could always use more eyes on the Sisters. First story arc is done with, and I'm aware of the issues there. Second story arc is finally starting to get somewhere, this week's update will really establish -where- it is going (and the end of this issue will certainly shake things up). If I could get one that focused more on character dynamics and what you see as working, not working, or not yet established to you as the audience that'd help me.

>>85921893
I don't think anyone here does that. Subtly shifting people's views or making them think deeply on a subject is hard enough; I'd argue harder than ever due to how deeply entrenched people can get in their poli-clubs nowadays. Most of the ones that exist here exist for the purpose of entertainment alone.

Now, if they tell a good story or tell their story well would be a more interesting question.

>>85916913
That was pretty good.

>>85913396
A shift from the norm can assist in getting inspiration. Or write about how you lack an idea, it can help you get one.
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>>85927153
oho, a review of the reviewer. that'd be cool and extremely fair
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>>85924768
You're spooking me, anon.

I've got an identical story, except a hundred less chapters, and we're starting to draw shit in December instead of November.

Good luck, friendo.
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>>85927193
We could always use more reviews. I'm gearing up to write the next issue and could use the insight on where to focus things. I've got the plot skeleton outlined, but things can always shift if need be.

>>85924768
While you should be proud and psyched, don't get caught up in the amount you've written because a lot of it will need to be rewritten once you really see it all come together. For better or for worse.

That's why I don't try to write too far ahead anymore, because you end up scrapping a lot of content. I hope your styles mesh cohesively.

>>85923955
I can sort of see where you're going for, but without a full body/dynamic pose, it is hard to tell if the stylized look will work. If you're working with heavy shadows you should check out some of the articles Mignola has written. I think there was an old Dungeon Magazine article where he talked about how he does his shading for graveyard scenes.

>>85914736
Given the context, I could see how your friend might think that. The only audience viewpoint character having the same love for your team. Doesn't make it a valid complaint, but I guess it depends on how blatant it is. Or if you're willing to do anything funny with it.

I could see him wearing a jersey or a hat and getting hit on by some gay Germans who think he's advertising his role. Like, if you're going to put yourself in (even if you aren't) you may as well poke fun at it.


Whole reason one of my characters is totally terrified of bigfoot. It is a stupid fear I have, and it is played as a sort of silly background event that they talk about, but not to any great depth, and that is added levity.

>>85914696
Yep. Perception is an interesting beast.

>>85904534
I like these lines a lot. Interested where this is going.
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>>85917248
Glad you liked it. I find it funny when things just kinda end with dead air, and I read that Monty Python would take out/avoid punchlines while writing their sketches, so I ripped off that mentality for my comics. Whether or not I'm even remotely successful at doing it is something else.
And you're not the first person to say there's a lot more panels than there needs to be (believe it or not the strip I posted was almost twice as long originally). Brevity is something I certainly need to work on... as I type this long response.
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>>85929315
ohhh i see. Viewed through that lens I think I get it a little better now
I suggest you alternate really really absurd comics so people get in the right mindset
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Finished this page!

Colors are crazy because shit's about to GET crazy.
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>>85924532
Good one, memeposter. A twist of the regular posts built on top of another memeposter. bretty good 8/10
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How the fuck do you design shoes for a character?
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>>85930738
what kinda shoes? or do you mean in general? because in that case, go look at pictures of lots of kinds of shoes
if specific, pick a model that looks good and add a few lines you think it should have but doesnt usually. I'm find of a lighter-colored round patch on the toe, and thick ridged soles that have a little trapezoidal lip that comes up over the front
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>>85930790
in general. I'm looking at images of shoes, shoes from characters I like, I just don't know how I want them to look.

All I know is that I don't want them to look too generic, but not too out there either. As if every part of the shoe that was designed was given thought and care to.
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>>85930826
Shoes are shoes. They're made to cover our feet so we don't stab them with pebbles and shit. I'm not gonna tell you to not try and give your characters at least nice looking shoes (like, don't just stick em' in loafers), but you really shouldn't worry that much about making them look special.

Unless the shoes ARE special of course. Like, they're important in some way. But if they're just a part of the character's usual wardrobe, just give em' some common tennis shoes or sneakers or something. You can snazz them up with a custom pattern I guess, but it's really nothing you should give yourself an ulcer over.
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>>85930826
Well, give us more specifics on setting and the kinds of characters you want to design them for. Do they prioritize comfort or style? What colors and styles might go nicely with their outfits? Are they manual laborers or white collar?

If you have mostly dudes in the modern era it's a much easier task. For women... hypothetically you have thousands of specific combinations of features, but only if they're the dressier type.
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>>85930826
>>85930928
yeah. just have a default. I have my defaults
>Mario shoes
>Doug/Tails shoes
>Link boots
>Homer shoes
>Goku boots
they're just whatever, but they get the job done. Don't have to think about them, they just appear in drawings.
Then it's like, every once in a while I write down some footwear I think looks cool
>ski boots
>wrestling boots
>go-go boots
>KISS boots
>Just wrappings or spats like some total turtles or thundercats-ass shit
and then use those later when I remember
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>>85930928
I know but, I just feel as though I cant just give them plain shoes, they need some spice or something.

Like you ever hear the saying, "shoes make the man," or "you can tell a few things about a man by his shoes"?

>>85930987
Modern setting. pretty much just casual wear. something like regular running tennis shoes
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>>85931059
Obviously give him a pair of Sky Davis Air Jets, or some equivalent top-quality high-tops
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>>85931059
You could find a particular pair of running shoes for each character and jazz up the colors a little. There's a few different styles of sneakers, so you could give one character running shoes like the picture attached, one a pair of hightops, one a pair of those laceless Vans, one a pair of Keds, etc. Tailor it based on what you think each character would go for. Toss in shit like loafers or oxfords if you want.
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So if you guys are interested on getting someone to review your webcomic the writer of Psycho Babble has opened up a blog where he takes a look at other webcomics. See more over here, his reviews and contact info (beetlesharke.tumblr.com). All you need to do in return is give a shoutout to their comic (beetlemilk.com) somewhere in your social media.

Oh yeah and I updated my comic as well
tapastic.com/series/Numb
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These threads are a good idea. Let this not be the last.
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>>85933047
you are a madman anon
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>>85927153
>>85927576
Is it possible for you to write a single post that isn't a fucking essay? Jesus Christ.
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>>85933552
As a huge offender of the essay posts myself I have to say, can't you just not read it?
He's not even making one huge reply, he is making short replies to multiple people, just ignore it and move on, dude.
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Hey /hyw/, does your webcomic have a themesong? Do you put together playlists of music to draw/read to?

What kind of music inspires you, and what kind of music would you want people to listen to while reading your comic?
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>>85934673
Cliff Martinez is my latest found jam while doing comic pages. Especially his stuff on the Neon Demon soundtrack. Also Mica Lev, Goblin(Suspiria), jazz and other moody stuff would make my comics ost.

It's great fun to imagine a scene with certain song in the background and then try out how it would play out with different tune.
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>>85931509

You are in dire need of figuring out some other way to do your text.
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>>85904130
>>85904607
Will do.

2/??
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I made a strip, now I don't know where to go from here
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>>85934896
I see you have improved the art a little bit, even better strip
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Did 2 WIP test pages for my first attempt at a comic. Having a hard time figuring out how many panels I need to properly show an action without it feeling either too choppy or too drawn out. Right now I think it might be way too choppy. Would love to hear some critique and opinions.
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>>85935084
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>>85933640
Not an argument.
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>>85935305
Terrible bait. Meme better.
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>>85935084

Not bad, nice clean lines, and interesting character shapes. Action-wise, it seems fine.

You could probably combine Page 1 Panels 4 and 5 into a single half width panel, and move panel 6 up a row which would give you room to show the thief the guards are chasing.
Row 3 would then have a little more room for a chase action panel. Flip panels 7 and 8, so the action flows left to right. P8 could be narrower (no need for all that brick wall on the right hand side) to give more room on the rest of the row.
The guards in panel 11 seem a bit light on their feet for heavyset guys who've been running in metal breastplates. A more tired, plodding stance would emphasise their "Ah, fuck it..." attitude.

Page 2 Panels 2 and 3 could also be combined into a single panel, showing multiple actions (just remove the gutter).
Panel 5 already shows the thief walking out of the water to the rocks, so have p6 show him sitting on the rocks and looking in the bag. I'm not sure the seagull inset panel adds anything, as we can already see plenty of birds around.

Good stuff, keep going.
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>>85921893
It's seems like a good amount TRY
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>>85935084
>>85935098
Pfft
Dude
Fucking nice
Direction is clear
Art is nice
Any negative comment directed to this guys comic is deemed retarded from here on out.
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>>85935084
Don't hide the tip of the spears in P5. They are indicators of threat.
P7,8: Why fall to the left? Every panel has the kid moving to the right.
>>85935098
I'm not sure what the mini-panel with the seagulls contributes. Is it to lighten the mood or as exposition?
The panel with the bag looks odd. Show perhaps the kid throwing the contents to the ground.
Is the final panel supposed to anticipate something happening to the right? Move the kid farther to the left if it does, make it a bit wider, so as to create an imbalance.
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>>85935655
Thanks. That's exactly the kind of crit I was looking for. Especially that I messed up the left to right panel flow in the chase sequence is really obvious now that you mentioned it.
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>>85935084
>>85935098
Not very original I gotta say, it's like you have this scene subconsciously in your head from numerous forms of media including comics , try to have more "vision" when setting scenes up or you'll just end up looking very generic.
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>>85935084
A modern purse?
And an underground sewer system?
ummm I don't think that's how it worked
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>>85935880
I'm with this guy, kind of generic, lines look good though
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>>85935347
Are you going to make an argument or no?
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>>85936581
Trolling used to mean something. Now, it's so hollow and sad.
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>>85936581
How about you go first. You yourself don't have an argument, you are annoyed Sisters guy's posts are big, and I am telling you to chill out, they are not a problem.
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>>85936725
>Trolling used to mean something. Now, it's so hollow and sad.
>Trolling used to mean something.
It didn't. You were always hollow and sad, you just didn't realize it back then.
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>>85936991
Hey look it's the anon who just looks for someone to pick a fight with every thread!
Rock on bro!
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>>85936784
Only a turbo autist would write a post that long, and only a turbo autist would read it.
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>>85937467
I was responding to about 11 different posts.

You could tell this because some parts of the post have numbers and are red and hyperlink to other posts. You use those to respond to people and you can do it more than once a reply post

I hope this was informative.
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>>85937639
lol
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>>85936784
No, you're responding to bait.
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What's the standard canvas size I should be drawing at for a web comic?
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>>85938252
It depends entirely on if you ever want your comic to see print.
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>>85936784
It's not so much the size but he's a flat out retard.
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>>85933552
>three or four sentences per reply.
>sometimes only one or two
>a fucking essay

Because reading is a real chore, right?
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>>85938252
A4 300 dpi at minimum if you're aiming for print.
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>>85938694
I would like print to be an available option if the opportunity comes up.
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>>85939231
Thanks anon.
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>>85933552
If you break it up into separate posts people get mad
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I know several people here applied to SpiderForest. Anyone get in?
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>>85934917
I can think of some things i'd like them to do..
fuck if you're so nihilistic what does it matter whether light does or doesn't reflect off of certain parts of you back into my retinae?
>>85935084
everyone loves a kid thief. This is fantastically drawn
>>85935655
just my two cents, i loved the seagull inset panel. but that's personal.
>>85938252
something over 3000 at its largest dimension, unless it's a long strip, in which case something over 2500 at its smallest dimension
When you're done, shrink it to 1000 wide, but save the larger version, man
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>>85939466
wuzzat then
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Here's some base colors before clean-up. Might add more trees to the last two panels.
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Any of you who use the discord: do you think it helps with your motivation/discipline/morale?
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Are there any comic publishers doing open submission soon? I somehow completely missed DC's and don't want to miss another. Isn't Oni going to do another one in 2017?
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>>85940436
Drawing is like my good place. I havenot required extra motivation in forever.

I find, though on days that I am not feeling it, that excercises like drawing free hand straight lines or elipses or smooth curves really helps to get me there.
Think of minimum, even if it is just a half hout drawing circles- and do it every day.
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>>85941200
According to their FAQ, Oni won't be doing another open submissions until at least 2018.

Boom Studios have an open submissions facebook page for people to post samples on, but it's very much "Don't call us, we'll call you".
BoomStudiosArtistSubmissions on Facebook
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>tfw shit writer but also a perfectionist
Never going to get anything done.
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>>85898194
Hey, denizens of this land, I want the Discord invite.
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>>85903960
now I honestly want to this comic. it sounds interesting and something I can identify with ( i.e making fun of past self)
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I never post here but I might as well try and advertise my comic more! The site is http://nandeno.com/ and I've been working on it for a year and a half now.
I suggest reading from the start, it's sort of a slice-of-life comic about a group of friends with a lot of crude humor. I plan on making it a lot more story-oriented soon (the first 65 or so pages serve more as an introduction). The art has also improved in the past year.
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>>85933552
I am guessing this jackass lives on the East Coast and posts from work. That special something he brings to the thread ends at around the same time every day.
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>>85943029
Oh yeah, I like this comic, I've been meaning to make fanart of it for a while.

Maybe even a guest comic if you take those.
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>>85943239
You sound upset.
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>>85943029
>first seven comics
i am hooked. you should really post.. I dunno, some pages or excised panels or something, when you advertise this. Because this? just this banner and this description? this didn't do it for me. I had to hear Dewd say he liked it before I even noticed the post. But reading the actual comic.. shit man. You need to learn to advertise better
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>>85943543
Haha, sorry I'm just kind of embarrassed. my art isn't amazing looking, but I guess that's the point of the thread isn't it? haha. I'm glad you like it.
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>>85943609
i mean yeah the art has only one job here and that's being funny, and you've managed that.
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>>85943284
I've thought about guest comics for a while, but I'm not sure yet. I always love fan art though!
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>>85943029
ew why is he black
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>>85943297
Hi!
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>>85943029
here's a typical page, but it's kinda old by now.
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Dont suppose it has to be something you made yourself,
as an anon i could be the guy who made this, but i'm probably not.

it matters more what was said than who
But the kiwisbybeat mirror just got more of the lost comics a few days ago and Modern fried snake is pretty good
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>>85945275
>Dont suppose it has to be something you made yourself
That's the idea, anon, hence the "your" in the thread title.
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Would it be to confusing to have one character change his name part way through and some people refer to him as one name and others the new name?
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>>85946196
this
however it's still nice to hear they've found more of the lost comics. once in a while we do share webcomics news, briefly.
>>85946639
as long as a few of them say one then the other, and the name change is mentioned out loud and made clear
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>>85943977
Heh.
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>>85903706
I really love this post, keep up the good work
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The Sisters Updated. Four pages.
This week: Beth fucks with Guy. Because what else can she do? She's dead.
http://thesisters-comic.com/
https://tapastic.com/episode/445456
Next week: Back to the kids.
Sammy tries to be diplomatic..

>>85946714
>share webcomic news.
I kind of miss when we had a topic comic we could discuss the benefits and detriments of. I think the time QC was the example killed that thing entirely.

>>85943977
That panda brought it to a dark place. I like this, I'll check it out. Seems to be within the wheelhouse of things I find funny.

>>85939466
Didn't apply, but a friend of mine got in. They seem pretty chill.
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>>85948020
Which friend is that? I got rejected but I'd like to know what got in.
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>>85948020
oh great. that would have been a little more useful when he could have fingered the perp! fuckin slowpoke ghost.
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>>85933552
>so one actually posts well thought out content
>retards like this are enraged
You are everything wrong with these threads.
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>>85949101
A little, but Guy was down on the Jersey Shore for that time and Orea is not exactly a qualified witness.

If Orea brought it up she'd just be crazy. Not that Guy would look any better, what with having a manslaughter charge. "I know who killed the victim" is not something you can generally say to the proper authorities when they all still think you shot your girlfriend in the face.

We'll get into the nitty gritty of Scott and Beth next issue. Mostly because we're introducing Julius and the lawyer/will thing is coming up shortly. But the short-end of it is that Scott's pretty bad at being dead, unlike Beth; and that Beth shot herself in the head with a magnum while she and Guy were fucking. Because they were supposed to be edgy hardcore fucks and Guy totally didn't sign on for that sort of relationship.

Next week is more pukwudgies and Sammy trying to be the party diplomat, while Jam tries to play the muscle, and Chel gets to be cute.

>>85948582
My friend who does Monstrous Mimi got in.
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>>85949492
oof. that is fucked up and a half. like, other suicides, you can tell yourself 'oh well she had a low moment of brain chems' but if you're literally on the highest you can be and you chosoe that moment..
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>>85949405
There's a fine line between "well thought out" and "autistic megaposts."
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>>85949623
U mad, bro?
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When was the last time either the Green Knight guy or the Carrion Girls guy posted in /hyw/?
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>>85949896
I'm pretty sure Green Knight guy said he was going to take a break from comic-ing for a while to improve his art.Not sure about Carrion Girls.
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>>85950150
Yeah but he wouldn't quit the thread for that too. His site is still updating after all.

And Carrion Girls guy is definitely gone. The latest page of his comic never had a single WIP posted. He hasn't been here in weeks.
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>>85898194
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corpsevapors, i only got 5 comics done in august. s'posed to be twice that many.
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>>85950819
well shit, that means I need to start reading from his actual site
apologies to that guy i was arguing with, looks like you were right this time. but he DID specifically deny the last person to say he had quit the threads.
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>>85951691
to be fair, its a long complicated page, not a bunch of 3-panel punchlines like some comics
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>>85951783
oh yeah you're right. If I think of it as trying to get 80 panels done a month, I managed... 66. That's not nearly as off-course
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>>85940126
I like the colors you chose for the lighting coming from the trees. Those little highlights are nice.
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>>85950819
I did always wonder why people posted all their pages in the thread. I've rarely had to go to anyone's page to keep some track of their comic.
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>>85952953
I still believe in you.
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>>85954699
Sometimes I like that. In this case, yeah, I never bookmarked CG before. But I sure will now
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http://www.theduckwebcomics.com/Dark_Champion_Shader/

Here's my tokusatsu inspired comic.
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>keep redrawing panels to fix the flow of the page
>nothing is working
>time to go back to formula
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>>85955084
it's not exactly pulling me in, but I did like the part in the middle I randomly skimmed through where the guy tries to pull the suit off of him and can't, and is surprised it doesn't have a zipper. that's the kinda stuff nobody ever thinks about.
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Not working on a webcomic, but would any drawfriend be interested in drawing for a thing I wrote? It's a simple 'Hero's Journey' adventure with anthro furry characters. I've written it as a screenplay, and can post a pastebin tomorrow if anyone's interested.
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>>85950819
I'm nobody (Cosmic Tales) but I think I am just about done as well.
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>>85955602
that's a shame, i was really looking forward to watching how you improved over time, with your unique style and all. but I have noticed nobody really has any good tips for you
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>>85955624
Yeah, I don't think what I do is intersting to many people ( and that's on me) and my art style is... Yeah.
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>>85955652
it's interesting! i mean, the art is interesting. I tried to find the comic interesting but I don't recall character or story details at all..
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>>85955711
It's a mess. I am tightening it up, but at 40 pages things should be more clear already. I would drop it, but it is a practice comic, so I may as well see it to the end and learn from my fuck ups.
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Ta ta, /hywc/.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51kFdeXESx4
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>>85943029

Pretty solid comic!

What theme are you using for tumblr? Your page looks good, and is really clean and straight-forward.
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>>85957141
Sorry, I just woke up. The theme is Redux.
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Stay the course, /hyw/, we'll all get there together.
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>>85960239
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>>85960251
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>>85960176
No you won't. In 5 years, 90% of comics currently posting in /hyw/ will be dead.
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>>85960406
during your RL story arc, you became "that guy"

goodjob. you are a parody/throwaway character to fill in a page gap.
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>>85960260
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>>85927576

I'm really just trying to find out how to pull off that high contrast style. Really I'm just goofing around to see what sticks. I want that cel-shaded, 2-tone, punky grunge feel to it.
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>>85960498
Confirmed for buttblasted comic artist who knows deep down that he won't be doing his comic in 5 years.
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>>85934896
>>85934988
Not hugbox enough.

3/??
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>>85961598
Hi! You doing okay today low hanging fruit anon?
I really like what you bring to thread.
Say something mean!
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>>85961598
Dude, I don't have all day.
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>>85961762
>>85962137
Look what happened to Chaos in the Tropics and Among Us. And that's just the past 6 months. The majority of people here won't make it and their comics will be dead soon.

You're welcome to prove me wrong by sticking to your comic for the next 5 years, though. I dare you to do it.
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>>85961598
Well, ideally most people shouldn't be working on the same comic they did 5 years ago. I think too many aspiring comic book artists are too obsessed with immediately starting their magnum opus masterpiece that will run for 20 years, when it's perfectly fine to have a bunch of failed, shorter comics where each one was a learning experience and an improvement to the next one.
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>>85962199
The creator of Anon's World here. I'll see what I can do.
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>>85962199
But my comic is intentionally a practice comic, my frugavoris friend. I never intended to take it past 100 pages.
Now will I be doing a comic in 5 years? Sure if I'm not dead, but that isn't even a matter of proving you right or wrong.
Now be mean again!
I command it.
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My comic is finally getting to the end of it's first chapter, so it's a good time to come in and check it out. its a sci fi kung fu kinda thing! It has a fat guy decking a shark man off a motorcycle! I like it.

http://junkyardheroes.com/
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>>85962230
>ideally most people shouldn't be working on the same comic they did 5 years ago
haha
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>>85962362
Hurhurhur.
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>>85962322
Very clean art. Nice.
I usually like a little more in the BG, but that's a minor compliant.
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>>85962199
Douchebag bump.
Don't leave us, anon. We need your cutting insight into the workings of the universe!
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I propose a little exercise to get some creative juices flowing..
Post a picture and other anons need to come up with a setting/story based on it.

I'll start.
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>>85960406
Yeah, cause I'll have finished and moved on to some other project. I'm not interested in a story that never ends.
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>>85924768
>261 chapters
You will literally die before you finish unless you pump out a full chapter every month.
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>>85960807
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>>85915758
>>85915722
>>85915746
your art and style is honestly pretty simple yet GOOD ENOUGH to make a webcomic. i'd say go ahead, i love your stuff
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>>85922736
I'd also like to follow you, whenever you get something set up. You're pretty good, already enough so that you could get paid to do strips freelance.
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>>85960985
yeah i'm starting to see it now. This is looking nice and graffitilike like you wanted
>>85961700
eat tha poo poo
>>85962258
you mean frugivorous?
>>85964414
>modern quirky scifi horror writers try to envision a flash mob. they are all arrested
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>>85966220
You mean that?
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>>85966971
>how am I supposed to see something that I can't even see at all?
No other comic has this kind of writing. Bless you
Hmm if Anna was bleeding out couldnt she/she just put a metal plate over the wound?
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>>85967146
Well I did say 'starting to'
right now I'd work on tighter line and shape control. What's going to make or break this is your ability to get those slick edges and shapes.
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>>85967172
Well, if anna formed a metal plate and put it over her skin, then that would pretty much be ripping off more skin to cover up that other skin and would result in even more blood loss.
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>>85962322
>Is she like your girlfriend or something?
>No, not at all
Aww. Great read anyway, though
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>>85967359
oh i see, body mass has to remain constant. so shifting hands into blades is one thing but holes in skin can't just close up. i suppose that makes sense.
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IVe recently updated my comic today, I'm shocked I've been able to keep a consistent schedule so far. I want to make the shading more like something out of a cartoon but I feel like i could be going about it a better way, anyone has any experience with this sort of this over here?

tapatastic: https://tapastic.com/series/Magicat

webtoons:http://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/magicat-/list?title_no=37270
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>>85967650
well it's appropriate on the cat, but the dragon has much softer shading. any reason you wanted to do that?
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>>85967194
>tha
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>>85967827
yeah it was more like 'da' wasn't it
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>>85967172
>No other comic has this kind of writing
There's a reason for that.
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>>85967801
I think when i was shading the serpent here i wanted to soften the shading because when i put it there before i may have thought it looked harsh at the time but it probably would have been fine but cant go back on this page now.
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>>85964975
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>>85940126

I don't understand this, is she crying? What are those under her eyes?
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>>85967384
they're not with each other but that doesnt mean that they wont get with other characters in the future
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>>85962764
>>85967384
Thanks a lot! its nice to hear people liking the story
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>>85968476
cel shading is indeed harsh, especially at higher contrasts. but it's hard to see how it's going to look until it's finished
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baughmp baughmp
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An anon added a pretty cool filter on my comic in the last thread, it looks pretty awsome. Wish I could've thought of it. It really makes everything more weird. How'd you do it? How can I create this filter? Is it watercolor?

I'm a big fan of Megg, Mogg, and Owl, and I've pretty much fell in love with the hopeless style and ambience the comic emanates. Ever since reading them I've been meaning to somewhat emulate the style while at least bringing something original to the table.
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>>85972195
Looks like they used stock watercolor image? You pick out an image of watercolor on paper (you can find tons of them on deviantart), and then place it on the topmost layer of your comic file and change the setting of the top layer as overlay or multiply mode or whatever you think looks best.
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>>85916913
You're style reminds me a lot of that rpg maker game, Lisa. Pretty cool! However, you should try adding some color at some point, maybe to bring more attention into the strips.

>>85923955
Sounds like fun, just don't make it all style and no substance. If you got an interesting story to tell go for it. That style's always fun to do, very energetic.

>>85924483
Nice, sounds like a very interesting and enjoyable story to follow. I'm not that big into anime/vns/manga so this type of story structure is fairly new to me.
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>>85972452
>very interesting and enjoyable story to follow.
if only it was real and not a meme
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Was going to make a character based on me as the MC because I know what I'm like and it'd be easier but I feel like that'd be egotistical. What does /hyw/ think?
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>>85969205
Weird hair. It doesn't fall vertically.
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>>85973101
are you making the comic to live out a fantasy? because it's hard to make that interesting for others.
if you're just doing it as a way to examine a character deeply by already knowing everything about him, that's great. don't pull any punches though, paint the entire picture.
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>>85943835
This desu
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>>85973448
It's a bit of both, really. While someone based on me in the centre of the story is cool, it's mainly because I fit the criteria of the character I need for the story to make sense. And because I know everything about me it makes the small things a lot easier to fill in.
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>>85973101
Why not make a character based on literally you?
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how you feel about diary comics /hyw/?
my therapist says a diary would be good for me, and drawibg it out could be both practice and fun (nothing too personal or depressing of course)
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/hyw/ was a mistake. This is a mercy kill.
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>>85975601
we all love Let's Speak English after all
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>>85975716
I don't love it.
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>>85969561
It's meant to be sweat drops, but I can see what you mean.
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>>85951516
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>>85976525
>watch this. i take off my sunglasses...
>and now they're a small paper bag. dig it.
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>>85977430
its a snack crate bro reading comprehension
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>>85955439
Did everyone ignore me or is furry off-limits here
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>>85979528
if youre looking for an artist for your project, im not sure that this is the best place to ask for one, as most artists that post here have their own projects theyre focusing on
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beep
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>>85980115
boop
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>>85979528
are you going to pay or is it for """"exposure""""
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>>85980395
>exposure
>exposfur
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>>85979975
I thought this was the most appropriate thread, considering the drawthread is for more one-off things. What thread could I post in for someone help me out?
>>85980395
I'm broke, nigga. If it makes money, and I'm doubting it will, I'd give half.
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>>85980485
You didn't sell it very convincingly and every writer has a story they're begging artists to draw for them. Why would you open with "it's a very typical hero's journey kind of story" without elaborating from there or even trying to sell any artists on a character? Who'd want to read your screenplay if that's all you have to say about it?

Work on your presentation and keep your hopes very, very low if you're not willing to part with any cash. Anyone with a keyboard can write a script, halfway decent art is a learned skill and it takes many times longer to draw a panel than to type out the description for it. Drawing in an artist for your pet project would require investment that you're just not putting any effort into.
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>>85980643
>Why would you open with that without elaborating
Because it's my first, and I didn't want to clog the thread with half-a-page of stuff most people won't read anyway. That's why I offered to upload a pastebin if anyone wanted it. And I've only got 3 chapters of work after a month of half-assed writing at 3 AM and procrastination

But, since you cared enough to write that much...

It's a standard hero's journey romp, yes, but I plan to have it range from comfy af to brutality and rampage. The main character is a young kid who's never been keen on change, and prefers diplomacy over fighting. Her friend is someone who always jumps head-first into problems and never backs down from a fight. The twist is they're one and the same, akin to Fight Club: the main character, and by extension the reader, would interpret things differently than how they actually happened. The big bad is an evil warlord who has seen the fall of his people and will stop at nothing to return them to their former glory.

I've got absolutely no problem accepting this if it fails, but I'm hopeful and determined to see this through.
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>>85943029
ok yeah thats cool and all but wheres the fucking mommys boys reboot at goddammit
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>>85980643
>why I learned to draw the post.
Seriously, it takes years just to get mediocre. Nobody's giving that shit away.
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>>85972195
yeah I like your style a lot anon keep on this way, you're kind of inspiring me
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im writing a comic called the anal sex chronicles and its about all the bad times i put it in the butt
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>>85982060
cool, i can see it becoming the new oh joy sex toy
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>>85972195

That was actually generally kinda creepy and freaky, awesome work.
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>>85984217
Not really the kind of criticism you might be looking for, but a nasty thought just cam by me.

You are a mother and still got a secret ID from even your own family.
You surprise your child masturbating to picture of your alter-ego.

What do?
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>>85984217
Why is her family retarded?
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>>85984217
Not really about the page (although, a full page to establish "he made this when we were young, but he still doesn't know who I am" seems like a bit much) as much as the context behind it existing.

We've seen Mark a few times, but up until this page where you tell us directly it hasn't been clear if the book is trying to portray him as actually oblivious or faking obliviousness. Now that our protagonist has told us we're supposed to see him as oblivious...if we take that at face value he comes off as an ass or a moron. His not knowing isn't presented as a gag, Jan's disguise doesn't have any truly obfuscating elements, and we haven't gotten to know Mark so we can't tell if he's naturally spacey or bad at recognizing people. So instead, it feels like he's either too dumb or too much of a douche to recognize his own wife.

On the other, way-more-obvious and likely hand, he could just be faking...which is also a problem. Mark has been entirely devoid of character. His reactions don't betray any part of his personality and we don't really know shit about his disposition. You can't go back to the first chapter and go "it's SO CLEAR he's faking now!", he doesn't seem contemplative, he isn't spacey, he's not especially excitable. He's nebulous. If you reveal he knew all along it lacks any impact because it doesn't shed new light on his character: we don't really know him.

And on top of this, the fact that Jan thinks he never realized over 20 years but this hasn't impacted her impression of him or their relationship is very strange. This whole setup, regardless of where it goes, comes across as awkward because of the preceding material.
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>>85905422
Manga studio/Clipart has some good perspective tools.
Beyond that, just use photo reference for authenticity in details, and have your environments look less sterile, and more lived in.
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I want to draw clothes before the body.
>Noooo! Your people will have messed up anatomy, and we're all of a sudden /ic/ now!
You should draw the skeleton before drawing the body
>Get a load of this try hard. If you fixate so much on anatomy, you'll never progress. Go back to /ic/!
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>>85985548
Did you post this in the right thread?
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>tfw you have a three day weekend with no obligations and all the time in the world to work on your comic but no motivation
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>>85986081
get a new hobby you actually like then
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>>85986978
you've never actually created any artistic thing do you ?
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http://bug-quest.tumblr.com/post/149887444000/

I've been very Tardy recently, with shenanigans all day and night

ill try and wrap this up by the end of the year.
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Best way to shill your comic? Is it even worth investing in adspace since most people use adblock nowadays?
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>>85980125
I'll be honest I can't tell what's happening in these pages whatsoever
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>>85981127
we gave up on that. it's too much of a hassle and we're all too busy. jo and ken might do something but i want to focus on my comic and school for now. old podcast is gone forever, i wanna let it fade into obscurity.
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>>85987004
i work professionally, lol. if you wait for "inspiration" to hit you, you'll never get anything done. you have to make it a priority. and if you don't, you clearly never cared enough about it in the first place. so sick of all these le lazy depressed artist memes - make something or don't.
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Been a while since I posted here so I figured I'd post a page.
As always, please feel free to tear it apart.
Known issues I'm working on
-Perspective
-Anatomy
-Shaky line-art
-Color Theory
But more specifics would be appreciated.
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>>85988032
>i work professionally
Nice try, nobody in /hyw/ is even close to professional level.
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>>85984217
aww he built her bike. I friggin love the flashbacks. and i like this guy. definitely one of the cooler husbands-of-the-main-character around
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>>85988331
This meme is getting old. Professional can mean a lot of different things. For me it means that my main source of income comes from a job in a creative field - and it does. My main job isn't comics, but I do make the majority of my income on creating images.
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>>85988032
The definition of professional just means "paid for work"

I could draw horse dicks all day, but as long as someone pays me to do it, I'm a professional
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>>85985386
This is a thoughtful, informative critique anon.

Why did you even bother? You know the writer isn't going to give it a second thought.
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>>85988032
professionnal =/= artist
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How am i supposed to get over self-awareness and actually start learning to draw? sure, i can stick through it, i can draw all those cylinders and connect them to balls and it's all very impressive as i do each little piece, and then i'll compare it to what it's supposed to look like and i'll be impressed because even though it's shit it's impressively close for the fact i know fucking nothing.

Then i'll look again and realize that everything is shit and sub-deviantart tier.

How the hell am i supposed to get through that? it's true. it sucks. it's awful and terrible and abysmal, and i can't even say "haha it's just a joke" because it isn't, it's not a joke it's a genuine effort and i failed, i failed horribly. worse, unlike the deviantart users i am not a 12 year old child: i am a man. i knew i couldn't make the damn thing and i tried anyway because by god i wanted to learn, and i know full well this is part of the process but jesus i knew i couldn't do it and now i've created something horrible. if another human being saw this i would die of embarrassment because it's terrible, it sucks, it's just plain bad and i knew it would be.

And that's just for practice sketches. imagine how bad things would trying to put together a scene. awful anatomy, piss-poor perspective, offensive objects and cack-handed colouring. by god what a nightmare.

The worst part is that if it was as simple as that, even, it might appear doable: this is the only way to draw, the only way to convey your ideas. but it isn't. you can always just say fuck it and draw the thing without any construction - it's not good enough for a comic and it'll still be awful but at least it didn't take very long, was low effort, at least you can say to yourself "haha, i knew there was a proper method but i didn't use it. i could always have done better if I tried..." but you're limited in how far you can go: to draw properly, you need to learn to draw properly.

So what am I to do? Practice drunk?
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>>85988051
you've gotten so much better it's outstanding
>>85988643
some work professionally, some are professional-level. sadly the two don't overlap as much as they should
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>>85988728
>>85988870
The entire point is that I have created "artistic" stuff time and again because I make both my paid and personal work a priority and I have zero sympathy for folks who cite "no motivation" as their reason for not having a product.

>in b4 "I'm mentally ill/depressed/etc"
Literally me too but it's just an extra thing we have to learn to manage because it's not going away until we do. If you can't manage it on your own, get help.

>b-but anon, I'm too poor to get help!
I admit there aren't enough resources out there, but they are there. You must make it a priority to find them. And if it's not a priority for you, then...

See what I'm getting at?
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>>85988946
You suck it up and push through it.

You draw shit. You post it. Maybe you get feedback. Maybe you get laughed at, wind up in cringe threads, and lose all your threads. Then you draw shit, post it, and repeat it thousands of times until you're good.
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>>85988946
maybe drawing isn't for you
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>>85988946
just get rich and pay someone to draw your comic for you, it's not that hard.
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>>85988946
>i knew i couldn't make the damn thing and i tried anyway because by god i wanted to learn, and i know full well this is part of the process but jesus i knew i couldn't do it and now i've created something horrible. if another human being saw this i would die of embarrassment because it's terrible, it sucks, it's just plain bad and i knew it would be.

This is every day of an artist's life. This is what they think every time they finish creating something.

All you can do is keep drawing. Every day, whenever you can. Don't try to be better than other people; the only person you have to be better than is who you were yesterday. Even if if it's just 0.05% better. All you can do is keep going.
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>>>85881967

>black borders look better

Sorry for the late reply, but yeah, you're right. Hadn't even considered the region outside the borders. Are there any good tips to keep in mind on when to color or fill in with black?
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>>85989428
Any time the white would be causing too much contrast and blinding you to the details of a dark scene I suppose. It's always best to stick with black or white I think, maybe light gray, because anything else would just blend too much and muddle the panels
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>>85988032
I agree with this anon. Art can be inspired, but comics are one part inspired and 99 parts doing the work.

If you want to make art for money, to any degree, you have to treat it like a job and do it. All the little shits around here that can barely manage a page a week, take breaks, and or quit entirely need to get in the right frame of mind to get shit done or stick to single images.

>>85989033
If people are willing to pay them that's all that matters. Not some nebulous idea of skill level.
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>>85989703
being too pragmatic is as dangerous as being too idealistic
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>>85989742
no it isn't
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>>85989773
hello yes where are the proofs
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>>85989041
100% agree.
You don't get to a professional level of skill by treating this shit as a hobby, either.
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>>85989703
>Page a week slam
Speed is a skill too, whch takes tme to build, just because someone is slow doesn't mean they aren't working.
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new page my dudes
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>>85990308
A page a week isn't even slow.
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>>85987953
>look at the channel
>all the old episodes are really gone
i guess its true what they say, all good things must come to an end
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>>85990858
This is true. I've had people comment on my comic talking about how they love how quick-updating it is...at one page a week.
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>>85990939
pisses me the hell off. nothing should ever go offline
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>>85990858
>>85991009
I hate that we have comics that update so sparingly that a page a week is fast in comparison.
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>you start your comic
>"keep working at it anon, you'll get an audience"
>6 months later, no readers
>"you're still new, don't worry"
>1 year later, no readers
>2 years later, no readers
>3 years later, no readers
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>>85992670
Maybe it's time to write something else.
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>>85992965
But anon, all that poster knows how to do is write feelposts!
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Sorry, you're stuck with the shitty fairy.
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>>85994366
oh god dammit
i love this comic
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>>85994366
POR QUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE?
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>>85992670
Post your comic
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>Been trying to keep low-key and unambitious and avoid being pretentious and wordy and stuff.
>Short, punchy, always humble.
>Pretty positive-lukewarm response.
>Just for a moment, briefly, go full Words Words Words and pretentious as a character rants, and do some infodump setting building
>People are reblogging and liking all over the place.

???????????????????????????????
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First time I've posted artwork in these threads. These are some WIP headshots for my characters.

There's still a lot I need to learn about drawing, but how are these looking so far? If I cleaned up the lineart, would you read a webcomic with this kind of art?

pls don't bully me TOO hard
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>>85995625
Just headshots alone aren't a good basis for judging the quality of someone's artwork. There are lots of people out there who can draw decent faces but are absolutely horrible at everything else because they always stay within their comfort zone.
On the other hand, someone who hasn't been drawing for too long and is trying to build up their skills in every area might not be a great artist but mediocre enough at everything to start a comic.

Show us some actually finished drawings of more than just a few faces. Full body, background, color if you want to include that in your work.
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>>85995518
it's not healthy to pay attention to the immediate effects of what you do. step back a bit, look at things over the course of years.
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>>85996205
>Just headshots alone aren't a good basis for judging the quality of someone's artwork
Fair enough, here's a full body sketch. I'll just come right out and say I suck at hands, legs and feet, so I'm currently in the middle of learning them. Like you said, I won't get stuck in a comfort zone, but I guess I was trying to gauge how what I can currently do looks.

the things around her are my idea for what ghosts will look like in my comic.

I didn't bother coloring it because my coloring is also undeveloped (complete shit), but I will work that into my learning as well
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>>85996979
looks to me like you're gettin' there. movin' right along.
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>>85995625
>>85996979
You know about drawing the body first, then drawing the clothing over that, right? Because that one leg doesn't look like it actually connects to her torso.

Based on what I see here, I'd say you aren't good, but you aren't awful either. You have some things going for you, like an appealing style, some variety with your faces, body generally seems in proportion, etc.
It does seem like you're hiding stuff you aren't sure about behind sketchy-ness though, which won't work once you clean up your drawings.
Look up some reference if you don't know what something looks like (like, you know, a suit for example). Not to copy the picture exactly, just to get an idea of how certain things work.

Other than that, you seem to have a good idea of where your weaknesses are already, which is good. Now you just have to work on that stuff.

If you feel like starting a comic now would help with that, then do it - learning by doing can be very effective, that way you'll at least always know what you're struggeling with and what you need to work on.
I wouldn't recommend going for your magnum opus right away, though - start with something attainable.
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>>85992670
I wish feels posting was a permabannable offense.
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>>85997423
This was exactly the kind of feedback I was hoping for, thank you anon
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>>85997834
if janitors actually did their jobs instead of deleting anything fun, they would help us out with spammers
they did in the early days of these threads, then they gave up
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>>85999106
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>>86000386
Just let it die. /hyw/ was a mistake.
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>>86001486
>she "Goodnight Gracie"d the ship name
ffff I love you Hazel
Christ his eye looks terrible. I guess that alien had some disease.. some alien disease.
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>>85961700
Sorry for late upload.
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I've been meaning to start a webcomic but some past experiences were keeping me from doing it, i'll guess i'll give it a try
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>>86003185
Wrong file oops
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>>86003185
thought she was bearded for a second. i dig the alien though
>>86003217
well this is good too
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Finished this page!
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Slowly but surely... I'm trying to improve on my drawing as I go along, so I'm really taking my time on sketches.
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>>86006168
this lighting is doing weird shit to annabeth's hair. also... when did it grow long enough for a ponytail? also always thought annabeth had dark greyish red blood. this is a lot of coloring surprises.
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>>86006736
Like I said, shit is pretty real right now, thus the color change, It's kind of a stylistic thing.

Also the pony tail sticking out of the costume has always been a thing since chapter 13
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>>86006912
oh okay so it's just part of the costume.
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WIP of the next page.

Watching OPM while doing this one really got me going.

maybe a little too much now that I realize it's now 3am.
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>>86007873
heh, nice mislead
2nd panel's blood trail doesn't make a lot of sense though, unless anna has quickly run in a circle and then back onto the existing path
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>>86007924
Yeah, Annabeth was stumbling around.
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>>86008266
oh okay. well it might be a little more clear if it was more jagged and the trail behind was also weaving side to side. More like it is in the fourth panel (which seems to only be that way so it doesnt get overlapped)
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scandy nudes when
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>/hyw/ in a nutshell
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>>86009287
Awww someone is bitter
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>>85985386
oh god the salt in this post

I partially agree with this but it's cute
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>>86009287
i guess this place is full of fags

kek making webcomics and circlejerking
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>>86009287
Let this be the last /hyw/.
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>>86010638
no
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Hey there, I've got a question for you guys. Are the last three panels ok? I feel they're a bit over saturated and the action doesn't translate very well.
Maybe I should change the last two and have her laughing in the middle one, and getting her hand grabbed in the third, leaving the yank scene for the next page.
What do you think?
Also, sorry about the first panel, you know how this is.
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>>86011161
is this porn?

pls be porn
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>>86011471
I'll answer your question of you answer mine :^)
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>>85985386
>>86009847

Woah woah wait what? kind of reminds me of this guy in the batman drawthreads that always redlined people's stuff. Shit was helarious, he was usually wrong and pissed people off
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>>86009847
>>86012595
What are you guys on about?

There's no salt here, that's just how I feel. Whether he knows or doesn't know, it doesn't really follow through in a way that makes sense or feels gratifying.

If I seem butthurt or you don't agree with my critique, could you just tell me what's wrong instead of just...saying I'm salty? If I'm wrong, tell me what's wrong so we can have a discussion furthering our understanding of comics.
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>>85985386
I agree mostly. Mark needs more character establishing moments. I'd like to know how he feels about superheroes and why Janice hasn't just revealed her secret. Janice was just wondering how the fuck Mark doesn't know. I'm thinking he knows and it will be revealed later when the stakes are higher and we know more about their motivations and why they both would pretend all these years. OR: I hope Mark has some other secret, whether he knows about Janice's secret identity or not. Especially if Mark doesn't know, that fact should complicate things somehow.
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>>86014938

I dont know maybe ive been on youtube too much but i smell me some drama
Keep it up i wanna see more when he posts again. This happens every week right???
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>>86015700
Fuck off.

This is for webcomics.

Not drama.

If drama is what you seek I kindly ask you to never post again. Chemical castration should also be considered.
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>>86015700
>Someone gives criticism.
>"It must be drama, lol keep it up bro ;)"

Well, I guess that's one way to respond.

>>86015616
I think it's still possible to make it work, yeah. Just kind of wish we got it before this, because now this part reads weird.
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>>85924483

Some day someone is going to make a movie out of this and make millions. Mark my words. I'm going to watch the movie just for kicks.
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>>85898194
I have a few strip scripts I want to test.

Premise: Son of comic book owner/landlord houses, Kirk, 3 superheroineswho are his buddies - a supernatural-based heroine named Sidhe, an alien with a convoluted origin named Delta and the daughter of a supervillain named Naga... they discuss dating lives, social circles and the like. Father is absent and has left the place to his discretion - he's know the girls for years. The series focuses on their lives. Their normal lives, discussing how super hero antics at logic would apply at a coffee table.

Main Characters:

Kirk Jordan - Average, """slightly""" overweight college sophomore doing a degree in "Useful with a minor in Applicable". He also runs a comic books store that doubles as a boarding house for three women, who are superheroines of differing power sets.

Sidhe/Emma Griffin- Irish-descended, cheerleader for the Cleveland Browns by day, caterer to the needs of the Netherworld by night. A Supernatural-based hero whose brunt of troubles come from sports fans refusing to die until their teams win something. Has an on-again off-again relationship with Black Cloak, a... troubled individual.

DELTA/Delta Green- An alien hero of... undetermined origin. She was either created in a lab, was the result of a union between human and alien, came from another dimension as a sort of Messiah-figure, is the last of a people from a dying planet... the list goes on. Her family, the group of scientists that raised her - and the ones that can't agree on which origin actually happened - work on an outpost on Mars. An Alien-based hero.

Legiona (Formerly)/Naga/Honey Cutie- Former supervillain, daughter of a supervillain - The Underlord. She's agreed to turn a new leaf and is best friends with Sidhe - a friendship that's lasted since before she turned "good". Is really bad at trying to be nice and playing "team", but listens to Kirk and Emma. A Tech/Normal-based hero.
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>>86018089
>self insert wish fulfillment harem shit
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>>86018123
...Um... it's not.

The story is specifically about the three girls and the guy throwing each other views about their love lives.

It's a play on the premise that guys don't get girls and girls don't get guys and are trying to understand each other, but, you know, through superhero metaphors. One of the running plot points, in fact is Kirk trying to impress a girl in his class but the three girls give him really shit advice because not all girls LIKE the same things.

Like, not all girls like Zandorfenian Miclopsus Flowers... because, you know, they infest populations and turn things into hiveminds.

And Kirk gives Sidhe advice on how to cheer Black Cloak up: "Bring him to a football game. Guys like football". His paranoia almost ends up destroying the place.

Then, Kirk takes Black Cloak's advice and tries to act angsty but comes off as a turd.

And DELTA is the meta girl who literally wants to know how the fuck things escalated to that extent.
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>>86018089
Where's the conflict?
What's the thrust?
What's supposed to make me want to read this instead of flipping through Love Hina or Monster Musume?
Why are all your character descriptions about jobs or what characters look like?
Do these characters even compliment each other?
If it's about their daily lives, what's your end goal?
How do you plan to keep your comic from spiralling into an unending pit of stories with no progression or resolution?
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>>86018211
I don't want you to take offense, but you just listed a bunch of plot points instead of explaining how your protagonist isn't a self-insert-ready character or how your story isn't a harem comedy.

I'd suggest either taking some night classes at your local college or just looking up creative writing lessons online. You need to try and understand the fundamentals of writing before you just start throwing characters and stories together. You should also try, for your first stories, to limit yourself to something with a clear and simple goal. You're never going to get it right on your first try, so you'll want to keep things brief so you can finish, look it over, and decide how to improve.
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>>86018327
>Why are all your character descriptions about jobs or what characters look like?
Because he's not a good enough writer to pass the Plinkett test.
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>>86018327
Each of the characters has a driving plot point:

Kirk. He wants excitement, to be the guy, but he's "settled". There's a lot of repression going on in there, but he wants be the Horatio, the Einstein and he knows he can't. He also wants to know where his father's gone.

Sidhe's role is mainly the person that Kirk throws his ideas on and who throws the ideas back. They play off each other. She's attractive and blonde all that, as per the normal superheroine characteristics and serves as the Instigator to Kirk's actions.

Naga is the socially awkward girl trying to fit in and is the other "victim" - mostly to Sidhe's advice. Is very much trying to do good and do it well... but she takes up the Charlie Brown role for the comic.

DELTA's role is to bring up the comic book commentary on events such as dates, talking about movies with Kirk and Sidhe and comic book time. I'm undecided on whether she should have reader awareness.

Format's 6 panels 3 up 3 down, newspaper style. Slice of life.

No endgame thus far. But I am adamant that between the four of them, it's friendship so no ships. I'm drawing on my experience talking about the other gender and what the other gender talks to me about, just blowing it up for the strip. It's meant to be light-hearted, like ROSE in the papers.
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>>86018455
Fine.

Kirk: Average joe. Provides the male side of commentary on how "guys" do work. Turns out, he's wrong most of the time.

Sidhe: Classic superheroine commentary. The one who gives advice to Kirk on relationships. Turns out, she's almost wrong most of the time, just like him.

DELTA: The meta person. The sensible balance between the both of them and jokes involving her generally involve one or two pokes at certain events that have occurred, commentating on them via parody and reversing the expectation.

Naga: Anti-hero commentary. Handled by Sidhe. Her role in the strip is to handle the social awkwardness and fitting in. She is in the process of redemption.

I want to put out a strip where characters can commentate on relationships from an unnatural angle. I chose superheroes and capeshit, whatever you want to call it. Social awkwardness, getting to know the opposite gender and trying to just apply yourself are themes.
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>>86018455
The comic idea revolves around 3 general settings. No overarching plot, but 3 ideals:

1. Kirk and Sidhe's opinions on how to "get" the opposite gender. "Guys like X" and "Girls like Y" is a major theme that runs through. Kirk is mainly trying to impress a girl in his class and Sidhe is trying to maintain a recently-acquired relationship with a Batman-esque character. It plays one to the other.

2. DELTA's overlaps with Kirk's and Sidhe's. She's the one that brings the commentary on certain events, maybe certain pastiches of books and throws them at Kirk or Sidhe. Also, family is a big theme with her. Her position as a SUPER also links her with the Superhero community, who have their own opinions on certain things like "who pays on a date", "what you should wear", etc.

3. Naga's is a direct link to the world. Her presence grounds the place into the setting of villains, the world's they operate in and the like. If we delve into an "adventure" or "setting", it will be Naga's job. She's also the one that can't get into social situations as well as she likes. She's usually a victim to DELTA and Sidhe's misconceptions on what is acceptable.

The crux of it is the male vs female POV and how we really just don't understand each other as well as we think and how your social norms aren't someone elses or just how hard it is to just "GET" people.

>>86018573
I got 2000 fucking characters and I'm trying, okay. It's hard to push character by character when I have this small space to put everything with a brigade.
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how often should dynamic panel show up in your page count?
1 everypage? does it fucing matter?!
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Anyone remember that webcomic that got dumped in here with the author's self-insert DBZ character that looked like Gohan?

I've been searching for hours and I can't remember its fucking name.
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Soo... I'm doing Artist's Alley at NYCC this year. First time evert doing an Artists Alley at all.

I have a webcomic that's fairly new. As in I only have 5 strips up. They're a bunch of single page comic strips. I'm working on 3 more comics and I was planning of printing all 8 comics as a small comic book at the convention.

If I get the 8 page booklet printed, I was going to sell them for $3 a piece with the notion of "comes with 3 comic strips not on the website yet!"

Or... should I just pass them out for free as a sort of preview since it IS a webcomic that people can read for free online??
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My currently using tumblr to host my webcomic. Should I get a domain name instead of using "comicname".tumblr.com?
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>>86019578
Try a dollar apiece. I've parted with a buck for some pretty mediocre looking preview comics just because it's so easy to part with a buck for a chance at something decent.
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>>86019578
$3 for 8 pages of a comic you can read online for free won't get you many takers, to be frank. $1 or Free would get more interest (as long as it doesn't cost more than $1 to print).
For $1, have 8 pages: 6 strips, a front cover, and back cover with a strip synopsis, urls, social media, and other information.
For a free giveaway, just 4 pages: 3 strips and a back cover with information, in b&w.

NYCC is just over a month away, so you've got time to get more strips queued up online, and/or make a mini-comic zine which won't go online (at least not straightaway). You can make a credit card sized 16pg micro-comic out of one sheet of copier paper, if you have a guillotine and long-arm stapler (8pg at twice that size).

Offer to do sketches as well to generate additional revenue, if you can, with some original art on display (and for sale). Have a speciality gimmick if you like; I've seen some artists offer to draw people as a sloth/goldfish/other thing, while I do D&D characters as a speciality to tie in with my FRPG themed comic.
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>>86020017
>you've got time

Unfortunately, I work a 9-5 fulltime job which is an hour commute back and forth. So not really.
I've been utilizing this weekend to get as much work done as I can though.

So 8 pages, which is 6 comic strips and a back and front cover, as opposed to 10 pages, which is 8 comic strips and a back and front cover?
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>>86019667
Buy a domain name and link it up with tumblr.
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>>86011161
the yanking is good where it is. good page-ender
i assume she's talking in the first two bottom panels so theyre listening to her then it cuts to her finishing her first thought
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>>86014938
It's like
it's accurate, but it's saltier than most accurate criticism is. Which in turn makes it seem weirder because usually accuracy establishes enough confidence that you don't need to get so negative.
It's just weird when a critique is more about what's missing than what's present, yet presented as if what's present is that offputting
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>>86018089
I hope at least there's a running gag where everyone thinks Sidhe is called "She" in some kind of feminist move, because that's how it's pronounced. and she has to tell them it's an irish fairy thing and it's spelled sidhe and everyone's like ... no it's not. that can't be how anything is spelled
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>>86020174
>8 pages, which is 6 comic strips and a back and front cover

Yes. Printing for saddle-stitched (stapled) comics and zines is in multiples of 4. Get two pieces of copier paper and fold them in half together; that's your 8pg zine.

If you've never made minicomics and zines before, then it might be easier just to go for a 4pg, single sheet giveaway (3 strips, plus info).
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>>86021478
You're saying "salt" and "so negative, but I'm not seeing it.

There's a paragraph presenting the problem and why it's a problem. And then another with a different angle and how that also has problems. And another problem and an affirmation that I think both possibilities have issues. And it's neutral: never implying the author sucks or the writing is bad or even that it isn't GOOD. The worst I say is that Mark lacks character...which is barely even an opinion, as the guy has barely existed in the comic up to this point.

I don't get where you're coming from because there's not even any quality judgements or rude remarks. It's just an explanation of problems I had.

And I don't even get
>It's just weird when a critique is more about what's missing than what's present, yet presented as if what's present is that offputting

Like, what?
The issues I have aren't about the page's writing on its own, but what the preceding content causes. This does not mean "my problems are divorced from this page" because it doesn't become a problem until this page. When it's directly brought to our attention the audience has to take this ignorance as part of the character. If it had happened later, after Mark is established enough, it wouldn't even be a problem.

So, yeah. I'm saying the page causes problems because it causes the problems I talked about.

Please, just give me an example or something because I'm just not seeing the negativity you're talking about and I can't be constructive if my critique comes off as salty.
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>>86022123
nah that's fine, you just keep being you. we need this kinda crit too. just be aware that's how people see it, no big deal
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Would it be a good idea to upload my webcomic to about like 3 or so websites?

I plan on uploading every page I finish on tumblr as my main page, but only upload full chapters on other websites, that way viewers will be compelled to visit the main page if they don want to wait until or if ever I finish a new chapter or so.

Iunno, I was hoping to be able to capture some of that nice publicity just starting out
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>>86022516
i dont understand why people do this, but people do this. a lot more work, and I don't get why people can't just visit one site..
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>>86022516
Totally, posting to Tapasric, Webtoons, Smackjeeves, etc. as well as your main site expands your audience by a lot. I have like 2 followers on my tumblr for my comic, but like 400 on webtoons and 80 on Tapastic. Different people are gonna prefer different sites for comics, so posting to different sites will help your comic immensely.
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>>86022660
I mean, I was thinking maybe there are some people out there who only visit certain websites for their webcomics, so if i only uploaded somewhere else, then those people would miss it.

So i imagine that having a few pages up on the website they often visit would serve to spark their interest more than some random guy saying, hey check my thing out.
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>>86022660
People do only visit one site and that's Tapastic/Drunk Duck/ComicFury etc. They'd rather visit one site to read all their comics, than several different ones.
Our problem as creators is getting those eyeballs on our strips, so we'll often have to meet them halfway and put our strips where people have a chance to come across them.

>>86022516
Depending on how much additional work you want to do, have the strips on the secondary sites at a smaller size or resolution than the ones on the primary site (largest and highest quality images should be kept for your Patreon).
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>>86022946
>I was thinking maybe there are some people out there who only visit certain websites for their webcomics
like, can we find those people and kill them?
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>>86021966
What are the best services to use to print comics?

And how many copies should I print? Is 200 too much or too little? I'm not expecting to sell every issue, but NYCC gets a LOT of people. I'm also going to be there for all 4 days. (and praying I don't die)
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>>86023321
I refuse to believe that those people are anything more than a negligible minority.
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>>86023383
It's one thing if it's tumblr, I get that that has its own mechanics and shit. shitty as they are
but are you going to tell me drunkduck and comicfury have a 'all your favorite comics kept track of for you, right here on this site!' functionality?
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>>86022990
well since you brought up Patreon, how does that work even? I honestly wouldnt even know what to reward any patrons with. I'd feel bad if people were paying me and im not even producing content at an semi-constant,and efficient rate.
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>>86023383
>>86023321
If you want to get your comic out there you have to come to the audience rather than having the audience come to you. Unless you're already an established artist with a strong following, you need to make it as easy as possible for people to find your comic if you want anyone to read it.
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>>86023439
Look at a bunch of other Patreons and steal the gimmicks they use that you like.
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>>86021966
Problem with printing and selling a comic that's 6 pages or less, especially for a webcomic, someone could come up, read the whole thing and not pay for it and just say "I'll check out the comic online!" Even if it's only $1.

Unless you put them in plastic and say you can't open them without paying.
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>>86023511
what the shit is easier than a hypertext transfer protocol link on the worldwide web? why are we fixing what wasnt broken?
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>>86023511
That's what marketing and networking are for.
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>>86023511
That's the one thing I hate about social media platforms. I get that it's a great way to get more people to follow you, but at the same time, it's a pain to manage every social media platform and keep it up to date.
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>>86023605
>it's a pain to manage every social media platform and keep it up to date
No it isn't.
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>>86023518
But would that even work? I dont know much about other patreons but im assuming it has something to do with merchandise and printed comics.

I mean I'd like to do something that I can manage and doesn't overwork me. I mean, im just starting out.
I dont even know when would be a good time to set up a patreon even.
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>>86023381
>What are the best services to use to print comics?

I couldn't tell you, as I'm from the UK, so don't know anything about US printers.

For a simple 4 or 8pg flyer, a local print shop should be able to do that. Make a mock up at home to show them.

If you have a laser printer, then printing at home is an option; I probably wouldn't consider it if you have an inkjet printer.

>And how many copies should I print? Is 200 too much or too little?

I have no idea what the crowds are like at NYCC, so can't advise there either.

With a 4pg flyer (ie a single sheet printed on both sides and folded), you can bring the masters to a print shop and get them to make more copies if you run out.
Assuming you can find one that's open outside of con hours, or you can spare the time away from the show.


>>86023528
Them's the breaks, there's always going to be one or two freeloaders. Most people, however, aren't like that.
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>>86021453
Yeah, you pretty much got the gist of what's happening.
So, the yank stays in this page, I guess I can move on with the dialogue next.
Thanks a lot!
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>>86023439
I only started recently with Patreon myself, so am not an expert. But I'd say comic wise, larger images and early access would be the way to go, with the free version at standard size a week or so later on the main site. Patreon exclusive sketches and director's commentary are also an option.

Think of it like this -
Primary website: 720p, normal schedule.
Patreon: 1080p, 1 week in advance of normal schedule.
Secondary sites: Standard Definition, 1 week after normal schedule.
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>>86023836
That's what pretty much everybody on Patreon has been doing since after the first 6 or so months of Patreon existing. Just look at a bunch of other Patreon pages and copy what you like.
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>>86024320
that's so boring though. i'd like to give Q+As, behind the scenes shit, alternate takes.. random simple requests.. asks.. but i've gotta already have a following for that
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Monster Lands updated. Eren creates her first monster and hangs out with it.

http://www.monster-lands.com/
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>>86026103
this is why I love this comic so much
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>>86026103
Aww, this is adorable. I really oughta read through all of your comic sometime, I like what I've seen on hyw.
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>>86025745
>i'd like to give Q+As, behind the scenes shit, alternate takes.. random simple requests.. asks.
...that's what everyone else does.

You want to do things you find to be boring?
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>>86027475
nobody does that shit.
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>>86027629
I see a ton of comics that do that shit on Patreon. You're just a stupid faggot who's FUCKING BLIND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>86027629
everybody does that what the fuck are you talking about
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>>86027915
>>86027886
that's not what I ever see on people's patreons. They just have hi-res files, extra art, early access to the same comics, pinups, gift art, and individualized custom requests
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Somebody get a new thread ready, and remember, according to >>85906181 , next thread is #313
I'm not sure how I fucked it up, but i did it in my comic so too so fuck me
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