>Everybody loves a hero. People line up for them, cheer them,

>>85791436

you know, i'm gonna miss old as fuck Aunt May. makes monologues like this more powerful

>>85791469

>muh hero cake!!

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>>85791436
>Stop invincible son!

>>85791532
Why didn't they go the heart attack or vague medical reason, it's been the standby for decades.

>>85791436
this one rings more true

>Well, to each his own. I chose my path, you chose the way of the hero. And they found you amusing for a while, the people of this city. But the one thing they love more than a hero is to see a hero fail, fall, die trying. In spite of everything you've done for them, eventually they will hate you.

>>85791436
>Oh that reminds me of a long, boring story about your Uncle that will only make you feel guilty and make the wrong decisions in life.

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>>85791436
>It doesn't mean I don't care anymore. I don't want to let you down, honest, but... but it just doesn't hurt so bad anymore. You can understand that, can't you? Look, I can give money to the city - they can hire more cops. Let someone else take the risk, but it's different now! Please! I need it to be different now. I know I made a promise, but I didn't see this coming... I didn't count on being happy. Please...tell me that it's okay.

>>85791573
Because it's to show that no matter the powers that Clark has he can't always save everyone and there's going to be moments he can't do a damn thing.

>>85791573

it's just staggeringly fucked, like they got he had to die and Supes couldn't save him to teach that lesson but did it the worse way possible

>>85791740
But this was literally a moment where he COULD use his powers to do something.

>>85791740

THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT OF A HEART ATTACK DEATH

Some things Superman can't punch to death

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>>85791714
Ffffffffuck man... I'd forgotten that one.

>>85791573
because that would reinforce Superman not being able to save anybody in a believable way, instead of a contrived one.

>>85791589
completely not true

there are people who were regarded as heroes their entire lives and after theyre dead, people still regard them as heroes

>>85791436
I fucking love Raimi's Spider-man movies.
They really encapsulated a regular joe trying to do everything he can to do right by himself.

>>85791816
I meant everybody, but ironically anybody actually does fit with the movie.

>>85791740
>Because it's to show that no matter the powers that Clark has he can't always save everyone and there's going to be moments he can't do a damn thing.

You're saying that Superman could stop a heart attack/illness but couldn't move someone out of the way of a tornado?

>>85791436
SHE'S

TALKING

ABOUT JEEEEEEEESUSSSSSSSSS

>>85791981
No, she's talking about Peter.
She's always known that he was Spider-man.

It's not even that Jesusy.

>>85791532
One of the stupidest things I've ever seen

>>85791714
What is this from?

>>85791755

What's so wrong about this?

We don't know if Superman had enough powers to save his dad at that point, so Jonathan was affraid that his son was about to reveal his identity for nothing.

''B-but the dog-''

That's just nitpicking, dogs sometimes get scared and hide, its not so unrealistic to think that it might happen.

>>85792002
I subscribe to the theory she found out after Peter told her about Uncle Ben's death, when she was preparing to move out of the house and found Peter's old Spider-Man costume sketches from the first movie.

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>>85791714
>... I didn't count on being happy.
Welp.

>>85792650
It doesn't matter what Jonathan did.
It makes sense for his version of his character.
He wanted to protect Clark over everything.
Even his own life. That's fine and good.

The problem was that Superman didn't try to help anyways.
Even if he failed, Clark should have accepted the risk of being exposed and tried to save his dad anyways.

Because that's Superman. He looks at the risks and if he sees that they're only to himself, he does it.

Even in MoS, Clark saves that bus even though he knows he risks exposing himself.
Why did he do that and not save his father?

Clark should have ran towards his father and try to save him. Whether he does is inconsequential. He should have tried.

>>85792626

Mask of the Phantasm brah. It was pretty great.

https://youtu.be/H_KcFFqLggY

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>>85791981
>"People line up for them, cheer them, scream their names. And years later, they'll tell how they stood in the rain for hours just to get a glimpse of the one who taught them how to hold on a second longer."
>mfw I realized she was referring to seeing Hitler's rallies during her youth in Germany
Raimi was subtler than people give him credit for.

>>85791436
I wouldn't call it dramatic, but it's still a great scene nonetheless.

>>85791589
his delivery on the last line stuck with me all these years

>>85791589
I loved that scene because it showed the villain's influence on the hero. Peter tried so hard, but got no credit, and it showed how thin the line can be between hero an villain. That rooftop scene is still one of the best scenes between a superhero and a supervillain.

>>85791532
I was baffled when I saw it. So melodramatic it hurt.

Snyder honestly can't make anything feel genuine, no matter the actor. He's so obsessed with "memorable" shots that every scene he does feels like a false attempt at emotion.

>>85793219
>Fucking ovendodger
Jesus Raimi

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>>85793072
>that scene where Aunt May slaps the shit out of a banker trying to pocket a loose shekel during the Doc Ock fight

>>85791532
Even ignoring the whole aspect of Pa not wanting to be saved by his invincible son, I remember thinking this scene was so retarded in a visual sense. Of all the fucking things he could die by, they made him peacefully drift away into a fucking tornado.

>>85792776
you realize RIGHT after he saved the kids from the bus, the parents started saying that their kids saw clark do it, which led Pa Kent to tell Clark NOT to expose himself in the future.


God damn you are dumb.

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>Raimi will never make another superhero movie

>>85793373
You always do what your parents tell you?

Fufufufu, pathetic

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>>85791714
>I know I made a promise, but I didn't see this coming... I didn't count on being happy.

>>85793333
Honestly I'd even be fine with the stupid "drift into the tornado" shit if he'd died for a fucking reason.

He dies saving a fucking dog. I mean jesus at least have him go back to save a kid or a family or something.

>>85792650
There could of been a scene where he tries to save pa kent using his normal human speed. That would let him see how helpless everyone around him is and how important it is he save people

>>85791714
>you now realize he fucked Babs because her red hair reminds him of Andrea Beaumont.

>>85791532
What if he saved him anyways?

>>85791436
Why cant we have this aunt may back? why do we have too have sexy aunt may when shes a character who dosnet conventionally need to be sexy or young shes supposed to be old.

>>85794414
I just want wise Aunt May back.
The ASM May was an annoying bitch who didn't offer anything but distraction.
The Raimi May was a wise old woman who (likely) saw through Peter's bullshit and told him what he needed to hear.

Age helps with that, but isn't necessary.
If the MCU May is like that, then I'm OK, but if she's just another pseudo-antagonist, then it's shti

>>85794414
The thing is, she's supposed to be Peter's aunt, which means for her to be old Peter will also reasonably have to be older as well.

>>85794682
Its ok to not make total sense, this is the problem with hero films today they take themselves too seriously.

>>85794682
I thought it was generally believed that Ben and May are actually Peter's great-uncle and great-aunt.

The tension of this scene gets me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRCM0jWEQjQ

>>85794394
There was a really cool podcast on manofsteelanswers.com with a theory on what would have happened. I thought it was nearly spot on. Basically the government would take him and trick him into working for them, which makes sense. Pa Kent shouldn't have suppressed his powers though, or he may have been able to save him through use of his super speed.

>>85794463
MCU May's gonna be completely fucking worthless. The fact that the casting for her seemed more concerned with her appearance than her acting ability should say it all.

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>>85793279
>this actually happened
>/tv/ was right

>>85794753
Well congratulations, you got yourself a (you).
Now what's the next step in your master plan?

>>85794825
Marisa Tomei won an oscar, bro.

>>85794825
She's like a 40+ year old woman.
Her appearances matter shit all.

Everyone knows that once a woman passes 35, her looks are done

>>85794910
I DON'T FUCKING KNOW THESE PEOPLE

>>85791573
Because that's not edgy enough for Snyder.

>>85791436
Man, I bet Rosemary Harris sucks a mean dick.

>>85793333
>peacefully

They probably found pieces of him scattered around the town for weeks.

>>85791981
Zack pls. People aren't always talking about Jesus.

>>85793894

Who says he wasn't helpless at that point? We don't know how much powers he has at that point.

We are not sure that a flyng piece of wood won't kill him if it hits him in the head

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>>85791469
>>85791532

I actually cried the first time I heard this scene.

>>85792911
>I don't like the Joker's voice here

Man, Siskel really was the worst of the two eh?

>>85791589
>fail, fall, die trying.
Love this delivery so much.

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>>85791826

You think May knew he was Spider-Man?

>>85799258
It's certainly heavily implied.

>>85794722
>>85794682
Even if they aren't his great-aunt/uncle it's pretty common to have reasonably old or young aunts/uncles.

>>85791981

I liked to imagine she was talking about Captain America

>>85794825

>talking shit about Marisa Tomei

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Da7GSy-6mJY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dh0210A-VZo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Da7GSy-6mJY

>>85791714
Then she ends up leaving him and that scene where he dons the cape and cowl for the very first time. CHILLS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6K1qNsE9v0

>>85791740
WHICH IS EXACTLY WHY THEY USE THE FUCKING HEART ATTACK