Is shipping the single most important aspect of every cartoon/comic?Why

Shipping is a substitute action. Find me a shipper who is in a healthy relationship, I fucking dare you.

Shippers are the worst part of a fanbase for anything

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>>85755795
But shipping and waifus/husbandos are the blood and life of a fanbase. Without it, barely anyone even cares.

Just look at shows who have no big shipper fanbase. Nobody talks or draw anything about them.

>>85755764
A lot of the older shippers on tumblr are married with kids.

It's just a side consequence of a good story. When the characters come alive in people's minds and they start to care about them, they want them to be happy, and finding love and romance is part of that

>>85755826
This. It's not good storytelling, but it IS a great way to attract legions of rabid fans.

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we the fans have adventures

we can talk sci fi or action or adventure or whatever


but we don't have girlfriends

so that is what we fantasize about.

>>85755877
>A lot of the older shippers on tumblr are married with kids

Kind of had to believe that, even more compared with 90% of the fanbase of most shows.

>>85755826
Fanbases are the most cancerous thing about any cartoon.

>>85755826
It's almost as if a 'fandom' is just a form of socialising where the intellectual property brings people together in a manner similiar to working in the same building or frequenting the same bar.

>>85755877
I secretly implied that any relationship where one or both persons are shippers is by definition not healthy.

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>>85755879
Its not like they dont find a way to put shipping on works that have nothing related to it at all.

>>85756031
Horrible.

>>85756031
Took me a minute to realize what the fuck i was looking at. Then i threw up.

It's basically a sport

>>85755826
The closest recent show I can think of but it's not /co/ related that fits that is Breaking Bad and that was a pretty popular show.

I mean yeah people wrote smut about characters and shit and people felt the need to defend Jesse but there weren't any major "x/y vs x/z" character ship wars.

>>85756031
While shipping/humanizing characters is cancerous, this is actually pretty funny/clever. Plus the art is good.

>>85755795
True, I mean liking two characters as a couple and hope they end up together is one thing but wanting them to end up together at all cost and disregarding each character's individual personality? That's usually what hardcore shippers do.

Honestly I am more into character chemistry than romance, two characters can love and care for each other and be totally platonic and never kiss/fuck and I would totally be OK with it, likewise if they are antagonist and just complement each other very well.

Although if the relationships are good but the plot and story are shit or not going anywhere I can't enjoy the whole thing and I'll lose interest in the story as a whole.

Maybe it's just me, but I feel like shipping is a lot worse now than it used to be.

>>85755984
I don't understand that mentality though. Why do you think that liking a story or franchise storyverse so much that one is in a fandom, and being touched by fictional characters so much they become whole characters in your mind to the point that you start imagining how their lives and relationships would go makes one unhealthy?

Do you think that writers of books, movies or tv shows, for example, who get so into thinking of fictional characters and their actions and lives and relationships that they're actually able to make money off writing it all down are all by definition fucked up in the head and never have healthy relationships?

>>85756823
Internet and social media ruin everything

>>85755917
Well, nah. I mean the older people are a minority in fandoms anyway, but people approaching 30 can easily have husbands and kids, but they still enjoy Disney movies or Star wars or whatever, and if a pairing hits someone it hits someone.

Though it's probably a different kind of shipping than the crazed teenaged type, calmer and more amused by it all, they don't tend to get so dramatic about it - but nevertheless, I've seen several shipping blogs talk about their husbands and kids amongst the blogging. They're not the majority but it's really nothing extraordinary

Shipping fags are cancer.. why can't you enjoy something without playing little soap opera relationship games that arent even present in the actual show

Shipping is fine as long you don't shove it in everyone else's faces constantly and just sort of quietly enjoy it.

Of course that's not what happens most of the time though.

>>85755764
I don't know about "healthy" but normie coworkers who are married or dating do it all the time, they're just not obsessive about it usually (although I have actually run into older otherwise normal seeming women with careers and kids in real life who write fanfiction so who knows how obsessive or not they are). I mean people do the same thing with fucking celebrities which I actually find much creepier.

But no it's not actually important unless the work is a romance.

However if people are only doing it for fun it is fine, like any hobby it becomes a problem only if people become frothing psychopaths about it, which happens often.

>>85756851
Not him, but shippers see any kind of interaction as romantic or lustful, not like real humans act.

>>85757174
>Shipping is fine as long you don't shove it in everyone else's faces constantly and just sort of quietly enjoy it.

So not on 4chan.

>>85755720
Shipping is a cancer present predominantly amidst autistic transgingered otherkins and other species of basement dweller that cannot function in an ordinary society but still have the basic human need for social interaction and form "relationships" with fictionalized characters. Shipping is a byproduct of this aberrant psychology a way of affirming their connection to the characters, "I know these characters so well, I bet they're going to end up together!"

>>85757235

I think sometimes confuse shippers who put whatever two characters together just to fuck around with those who seriously think everything "means" something. I almost feel like these should be two different things since the first version is just the Lego playset version of shipping while the latter is literally sports teams.

>>85757235
There are different kinds of shippers. There are some lunatics who ship characters who've never met, and there are some people who see subtext in the relationship between two characters that may or may not be there, and there are people who ship characters who are confirmed to be in a relationship already. You can't lump them all into the same group of fanaticism.

>>85757235
Well there's shippers and shippers. You have the crazy mouthfrothers but some people ship in a sane way that accepts and respects who the characters are and how they interact and just like the idea of a pairing and the potential storylines.

That's a bit too wide a generalisation. Being a "shipper" can mean many very different things. I mean the crazy "die for my ship" end of the spectrum is legit crazy, it's true, but it's a bit unfair to label everyone with the same stamp

>>85757174
>you're allowed to have this opinion, as long as you never express or discuss it in any way

So how exactly is that different from "you're not allowed to have this opinion"?

>>85757384
True, case in point >>85757258

And it's the same shit in every thread where someone mentioms Carol.

>>85758354
Because you are obnoxious while doing it.

See here >>85758410

>>85758354
While I don't agree with the quietly enjoy it part shippers shouldn't spam their ship in every discussion especially when it's obvious no one wants to talk about it.

>>85758518
Ah yeah that sort of stuff is annoying yeah.

Although - in show generals, for example, if there's not a lot of other discussion going and it doesn't really disrupt anything, it's not perhaps so bad. And sometimes it's really nice to find another person who shares your interest and geek out by posting it, especially if it's a smaller ship and it's rare to find someone else who also ships it.

But yes, excess unrelated spamming is bullshit, it's true

>>85755720
it's because the writing gets progressively worse and worse for cartoons and comics (as if it wasn't bad enough already), so the viewers retardedly "ship" the pathetically-thought out characters in order to feel as if the garbage they watch/read is worthwhile

>>85755877
>on tumblr
The initial question said healthy

>>85755720
I think it's got to be related to why creators and executives feel the need to have romance subplot in most fiction.

>>85759992
Tumblr isn't a monolith, dude. There are some perfectly ordinary people there.

>>85760779
Looks more like they try to convey what fans will do anyway.

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Shipping destroyed Arrow and try to make a voltron thread without some random schmuck dumping pairings. That Forever after high/monsters high general is 99 percent shipping.

>>85756823
It's always been awful. Louisa, the writer of Little Women, got harassed because the Jo and the guy who was interested in her didn't get together.

Though I do wander if the awful behaviour fluctuates, I remember a lot of fuss over shipping sometime in the earlier half of the 2000's.

>>85761102
But why do people feel so strongly about romance?
This has been going on since stories where first being told.

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>>85761200
Sokolowski

>>85756823
>>85761319

Have you seen the Olicity fandom attack Stephen Amells wife because they think him and the girl who plays Felicity belong together in real life too, Made up bullshit rumors about the actress who played Black Canary to portray her as an evil witch and even attacked Ben Percy because he didn't write in Felicity in and whats worse they're being awarded for it.

>>85761319
There'll always be drama and agendas. In recent years it's been trendy to shit on other ships because they aren't progressive enough, or acting smug because one's pairing of choice is more oppressed/progressive than some other popular pairing. It's bullshit, but it's basically an outlet for human aggression that'd come out anyway in different forms.

>>85755826
Jojo has generally minimum amounts of waifus. They're entirely absent from their eat trilogy, start appearing during Part 4-6, and appear here and there in the later parts.

>>85761457
Ech, I'll tolerate every kind of ship out there but even I draw the line at doing it to real people. Bringing drama into it is just beyond the line.

>>85761457
That being said I might need to emphasise the point of my post was that Little Women was published in the 1860's.

>>85761514
Anti-shipping isn't new but it used to be more about proving that one ship was superior to the others.

Now it's about proving that another persons ship is worse than others.

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>>85755720
>Not Trunks x Mai
>I know this isn't /a but shit ship

>>85761969
Why does Trunks look like a deformed alien?
Trunks/18 otp.

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just remember kids if you ship hard enough, it will become canon

>>85762374
Batman/Harley is better.

>>85762374
This is why we need to shove our ship in EVERYTHING!

>>85762428
batman/harely/ivy is better

>>85762428
>>85762582
Batman/Loneness is better

>>85761371
Remember, love and marriage are often portrayed as a goal. The ultimate "happy ending." This is understandable because fellowship (and by extension, love) makes people really fucking happy. We LIKE being cared about, caring about others in return, and seeing our friends and family being cared about.

On top of this, most shows, books, etc, allow you to see a character's deepest thoughts and secrets. In real life, when you know somebody that well, they're most likely your best friend. So shippers want the "happiest possible ending" for their "friends". And they get overzealous about it, because that's another thing we like doing.

>>85762374
is this the bombshell comic booK?

Is shipping basically waifuing but by proxy? I just can't wrap my mind around the thought processes behind the phenomenon. There's plenty of media I've been very invested in, but I've never even thought of shipping anyone.

>>85763012
yep

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I like individual characters, and the thought of them having sex with other characters I like, but I've never really cared for picturing them in a relationship.

>>85763116
alright thanks,

>>85763108
See >>85762920

>>85762920
Basically this. Good post anon

>>85762920
I agree on how shippers want the best ending for their favourite characters.

That being said what about when shippers don't want their pairing to be end-game?

I know there's a couple of pairing's I'd be pretty horrified to see hook up but am still very invested in their interaction and relationship.

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>>85762920
>The ultimate "happy ending."

But what about the countless pics of Bill dominating, hurting and goring the hell out of Dipper?

>>85763108
Well it just kind of happens. Or well - I'm sure that some morons just pick a pairing to ship in the same way you'd pick a team to support in every franchise they follow, because they want to interact with the shipping community, or whatever their reasoning is.

But for me, I ship seriously and only ship the pairings I get a really strong gut feeling for. The first ship I ever got was Hans x Elsa from Frozen. Until then I'd never ever shipped any pairing, just accepted canon pairings, and couldn't quite understand how passionate some people would get about something that clearly wasn't canon.

But then I saw Frozen and boom. I can't explain it. You just get invested in the characters, you want them to grow and be happy, you feel they'd be great together and you want to see that interaction.

It may have unlocked something, because recently I got dragged onto another ship from Steven Universe. It makes absolutely zero sense because to this day they haven't properly talked to each other. I just feel like the personalities etc would match well, but it's not a conscious process and figuring out the reasoning behind why it feels so right comes afterwards. I just find myself shipping something. It's bothersome, but I can't help it.

But if you ask if you self-insert into one character and ship them with the other, nah it's not like that. You just want the characters you care about to be happy.

>>85759992
>a massive blogging platform with over 300 million blog accounts worldwide
>popular among illustrators and other visual arts professionals because of the very easy interface, among others

>hurr everyone on tumblr is mentally ill

Tumblr is fucking huge, anon. The crazy sjw mires are indeed filled with crazy, but there are also lots of perfectly sane people. The arts / illustrators side is quite nice, for example.

Saying that everyone blogging on tumblr is crazy because of the sjws is like saying that every single US citizen is an insane redneck teaparty religious fundie because look how loud they are in the media, they even have a political party, surely everyone in the entire country is exactly the same. Or like claiming that everyone in "Europe" is the same and thinks the same, when in reality there are huge differences between countries and social groups and whatnot.

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>>85763935
>But what about the countless pics of Bill dominating, hurting and goring the hell out of Dipper?

But that would have been the ultimate "happy ending."

No I think people forget that people ship for different reasons and in different ways. There is also crack shipping, people who don't care what the show is doing either way, people who don't want their ship to be canon because they think the show would ruin it, people who would be horrified if their ship was canon.

I don't think anyone over 7 years old ever expected Billdip or for that matter Mabill or even Billford to be canon and its fans probably would have been confused and upset if it had.

Some people just like "ships" they find funny, weird, entertaining, or that gets their imaginations going or appeals to their fetishes or whatever. I usually find them more easygoing and less irritating then people whose entire enjoyment of something is just if their ship is canon and have a meltdown if it doesn't happen.

My only knowledge of a cartoon fandom where shipping takes more precedence than anything else is Star vs. the Forces of Evil.

The main ship ('Starco') is so huge that it's practically the hook of the show (or at least the 'will they won't they' appeal of it is the hook). It's so prevalent that it was even mentioned in the show itself.

In that case, I don't think you can be a fan, and NOT a shipper. But I'm sure that this isn't the case for ALL other cartoons/comics.

>>85755720
>Trunks x Pocahontas

I've officially seen everything on this monitor.

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>>85755764
Truer words have never been spoken.

I don't mind shipping. Or even crackships.

But I hate it when shippers tear away what makes a character "them" and fills them with their own bullshit. Like turning a super aggro character who normally only ever cares about fighting into this deep brooding fag who secretly desires ALL the dicks. Or characters who genuinely have no reason to be together. Like mortal enemies, people who have attempted to kill one another.

After a certain point, you're just shipping their designs.

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>>85765134
>After a certain point, you're just shipping their designs.

Its all about designs, this is why people turn clocks and notepads into anime characters.

Have you seem anyone ship a character from Uncle Grandpa? No, because they can't masturbate ti them.

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Honestly having a ship is fine for relationships if you aren't one to go whole fucking hog (and those types probably will never have a relationship honestly.) Some people desperately want the "new relationship smell" so to speak back, and shipping is a nice way to get that shallow feeling while not abandoning your current deeper connections. You can enjoy and want to imagine the shallow and cute new interactions between characters without going 2009 atlab fandom though.

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>>85755720
The thing that I hate more is when people pick a show that has NOTHING to do with romance, and project big fucking ships on it, and apparently take ALL their enjoyment of it from shipping what isn't there, and the show don't care. Them when the shit that they like don't happen, they get devasted.

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People who remember the Great Shipping Wars of Harry Potter and Avatar know just how bad it can get, when creators get pulled in and it comes to blows and all other fandoms and even normies are laughing at the fandoms and is like a South American football game.

I don't mind it unless it's that crap which takes over the whole property and even pisses the people making it off.

Something recently that started going that way was Lapidot vs. Amedot but the Zuke fiasco seems to have stopped it.

Another one was Ryouko/Mako and Ryouko/Gamagori from Kill la Kill but that was America fans fighting only, nips don't seem to have ship wars and reblog competeing ships and just say "ganbatte" to Ryumako or Gamako shippers even if they are "enemy" ships, killing each other over ships seems to be a Western fans thing.

>>85755720
sex is a base human instinct

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>>85765134

I don't mind in a sense if it's just something that's totally separate now people play around with, and just being creative.

One reason I can't get into fanfic much though is the number of AUs that are in high school and the characters all have different personalities, aren't superheroes anymore, like all the MCU high school AUs, only the names have anything to do with the MCU. And sometimes even those get changed and you might as well be reading a totally unrelated YA novel.

However if other people enjoy it good on them, it is probably just a way for people to get their original fiction seen and to be honest that is a more productive goal than just watching a movie I guess.

>>85765509
Slightly off-topic, but in my experience Japanese shipyard mostly are fueled between friends. I had two fujoshit doujin writing friends that almost stopped talking to each other because their otp for a game was different.

>>85765716
That is interesting because I had always heard there isn't much animosity there, but maybe some of that and here for that matter are partly really about some personal conflict and the shipping just becomes a sticking point, like roommates who get into a huge fight because one drank the rest of the milk but it's really about shit that's been building for a long time and not just milk.

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>>85762920
>So shippers want the "happiest possible ending" for their "friends". And they get overzealous about it, because that's another thing we like doing.


So..... mental illness? or just having the mentality of a 13 year old girl?

I'm sorry I just don't get it.

>>85764230

You need to find a hobby... that doesn't involve making pretend relationships with fictional characters on online forums...

>>85764426

This is a true statement. theres plenty of decent shit on Tumblr, 4chan is just obsessed with the cancerous tumor on Tumblrs ass.

>>85755965
Yes, but fanbases are important because they help spread awareness of a show. It's not only free advertisement, but the most effective as well.

I personally blame X-Files.

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>>85767355
I refuse

i like FIM green

>>85767678
>they help spread awareness of a show

they help people realise that grownass adults obsess about childrens cartoons.... so yeah, it spreads "awareness"

Why do people think shipping is some sort of projection or attempts to fill in holes that exist in a persons social life? I personally think shipping largely has to do with human empathy as shippers tend to ship characters they have grown attached to. I mostly ship characters that have some sort of canon intimate relation (platonically or not). It's weird because I literally have no other reason for it but

>they would be nice together
>their relationship would be qt

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>>85755720
>i'm going to add meaning to my hollow, boring life by way of a fiction relationship that i may or may not vicariously insert myself into
get a better hobby, fag

I don't care if you like romance. But the people who crackship and see chemistry when it's not even remotely present or the characters outright hate each other but "REALLY it's *sexual tension*" are the worst.

Shippers never actually like good, solid ships, just self-inserting/pairing up the two most attractive characters regardless of anything.

>>85768195
This, hell even in real life shipping of a sorts can still happen. See what happens with celebrities or more mundanely teachers shipping students together.

>>85767766
But that is a good ship.

>>85765601
fuck off shill we aren't slaves to our instincts, they're vestigial. we can kill off our species whenever we want.

>>85757073
This.

>>85765305
why not just shape garbage into the shape of a woman's body and fap to it

>>85768195
>Why do people think shipping is some sort of projection or attempts to fill in holes that exist in a persons social life?

Because shippers are usually sub-human landwhales, usually unrealistically as fuck going by canon, and a lot of time has a obssessive and angry fanbase over children’s cartoons and.manchildren's comics.

>>85768534
I challenge you to make a thread here with this intent. You would have dozens of designs and drawfags drawing porn of garbage-tan.

>>85761200
>That Forever after high/monsters high general is 99 percent shipping.
How did you expect anything else from that

>>85767287
You may have autism, sorry

>>85768701
I don't even know was curious because my niece likes it and it wasn't even a general but I should lowered my expectations

>ITT: manchildren whose hobby is yelling about children's comics calling other manchildren childish

Pot and kettle, come on retards, this is all incredibly stupid and if you're here you're already pathetic and talking abour braindead plots and characters for kids. What non autistic reason is there to even look at /co/?

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>>85769071
>Being this angry over people calling shipping patethic

This is another reason for shippers being cancer, they think that everyone is autistic as them. Go back to your Chris-Chan level fanfics.

>What non autistic reason is there to even look at /co/?

Pirate Hellboy.

>>85755949
this tbqh

>>85769185

I don't even like shipping, but you're delusional if you don't think muh comics are for children and manchildren exclusively, at least stop lying to yourself that comics and especially 4chan aren't prime autism territory. No sane person is proud of posting here.

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>>85769270
>huuuuurrr guys, you are all patethic and autistic because you are here! You HAVE to be just like meeeeee! I said so!

>>85768350
If anything it's considered normal to talk about celebrities or normie sitcom character shipping and autistic/immature to watch cartoons or read comics after you turn ten. It sucks and I hate that shit but it's absolutely true.

When waifufags and shipperfags and /pol/fags take over a thread here? It's horrible, although let's face it, that is 90% of /co/, /a/, and /tv/ and stimulating and even handed intellectual discussion is rare.

>>85761569
99% JoJo art is drawn by fujoshi though

>>85763935
Billdip (and Bipper in particular) is 100% fetish fuel. There is no other justification

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>>85769270
>if you like comics you are inherently a manchild and autist

Seriously that THIS is your argument?

Pretty sure that Mignola, Tom King or Guy Davis are just autistic manchildren!

Seriously, what is inherently autistic about comics and sequential stories? Why such projection?

>>85769453

Mabill and Billdip also just started because people thought it would be and look funny to ship people with a triangle in a top hat. Well it did here. I don't know what Japan's rationale is.

>>85761200
I fucking called that Voltron shit day one and nobody fucking believed me

>>85763116
Bombshell is an alternate universe!

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>>85769414
>If anything it's considered normal to talk about celebrities or normie sitcom character shipping

yes, when monica and chandler finally hooked up on Friends it was a big deal, thats casual water cooler talk at the "office" or whatever job you may have

Making 20 page long fanfiction stories about them fucking... is what a lot of people in this thread have a problem with. Especially when its present in every damn thread involving applicable characters.

For ex. I'd like to talk about the new Nightwing book WITHOUT retards shipping babs and dick, or anti shipping babs and dick or the same only with midnighter or what fucking ever....

why can't you just read the book or watch the cartoon without obsessing over it like you have a mental disorder. Holy shit.

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>>85769614
A show with a majority of men, a reverse trap, and a brown elf please anon we all knew.

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>>85770227
the fuck that's not my gif i meant this one

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>>85769477
>Seriously, what is inherently autistic about comics and sequential stories?

Hmmm I feel the literary establishment generally feels these are subpar or childish or not art because they tend to be genre and therefore do not deal with real-world issues in the establishment's minds, or "great human themes" like Shakespeare.

Note that the Oscars, Emmys, and the like have traditionally snubbed genre related material and dubbed it "nerd" material only...

True "art" is about regular people and the scope of history, that idea.

>>85770664
But it just mean that you are a plebeian regarding comics and a casual, and never read anything from the patrician recomendations.

Also, being genre automatically doesn't make it autistic or manchild, at least this isn't the way that any other media is judged.

>>85770664
There is no such thing as "true" art, fuck off you pretentious faggot, that definition was coined by boring, stuffy old white dudes with no sense of imagination, adventure, or fun, superheroes and superpowers are deeply rooted in mythology, which was the dominant fiction for thousands of years for most cultures.

>>85768643
it would intersect with shrink wrap/suffocation, spandex/gynoid fetish, it would be shockingly popular

>>85755795
Always and forever.

Shippers should be shipped into an active, erupting, burning volcano.

I feel like the only one who just ships all the canon ships and doesn't go beyond that.

>>85762920
>Remember, love and marriage are often portrayed as a goal. The ultimate "happy ending."
I completely understand the reasoning but god I'm so tired of marriage being depicted as the "best possible outcome" when in reality some people aren't cut out for marriage or straight up don't see it as being the "greatest moment!" Or accomplishment in their lives.

>>85768344
>mfw I only ship canon pairings and then people shit on me for it

>>85773981

It's because you're cancer.. but you don't know it.

>>85774561
That's nice, dear.

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>>85762374
I hate how they made Korra another butch lesbian instead of a cute tomboy.

>>85765509
>nips don't seem to have ship wars
They were literally burning volumes of bleach and naruto after their respective endings and cutting up the romantic rival of their favorite girl.
They'll burn expensive merchandise because they are so fucking obsessive.

>>85776198
>They were literally burning volumes of bleach
nips arent the ones doing that

No. Shipping is legit spasm. Anybody that actually has friends or a life would not have to think about any of that shit.

I read books, comics and watch movies in my free time and have never had the need give a shit about imaginary relationships and worry about characters being happy as they don't give a shit if they are. I have people in my life that I do want to be happy however.

>>85755795
THIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIS

>>85776152
can you stop with the shit meme, both of them are bi, not fucking lesbians

Okay but what is the most autistic pairing you can find in 30 seconds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHveMuMyClE

Shipping, in all its forms, is cancer.

>>85777456
normies ship real people instead. that's why every time a woman is seen as close with a man the rumor mill goes "they're obviously having an affair." trust me, I've been "shipped" before. It's annoying. Makes the other person not want to be seen with you.

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>>85769453
>body swap=shipping
what a wasted opportunity to create something cringy.

>>85755720
>Is shipping the single most important aspect of every cartoon/comic?
Shipping is just the fan thing that has no real end to it. It's why fandoms tend to devolve into it over time. It's probably related to why any fiction that goes on for too long tends to turn into a soap opera. The longer a fandom is around, the more people who interested in it for other things get filtered out, while shippers remain behind because they never will actually be satisfied. They just argue endless in their generals and tumblr notes. Things even out if more content is released, but eventually it just settles back down again. And the more shippers there are, the more they drive away nonshippers who want nothing to do with it. They just keep continuing, usually becoming worse and worse over time as they drive out the less insane ones in their midst. There's no actual end point for shipping, ever. No answer anyone will ever arrive at that concludes it. Even actual canon relationships don't stop it. Revealing people to be related rarely does anything but scare away the slightly more normalfag fans, worsening the situation. It's just the gift that keeps on giving.

It rarely has anything specific to do with a show either. Naruto had an absolutely retarded shipping fanbase that far outstripped anything similar in other popular shonen anime (though it was the most popular in the west for awhile). Golden Sun, a JRPG with thin as shit characters and no real shipping moments aside from one, had an infamously shitting shipping fanbase in its prime. Sometimes more relationship fodder drives shipping, but sometimes less does too as fans fill the void.

Humans naturally have an interest in the relationships of others, shipping is just one of many things that takes a normal human interest or thought process and just fucking drives it into the ground.

>>85755720
Ben and Gwen had better chemistry than most canon cartoon ships. They should've hooked up, you can say they shouldn't because they're cousins but I guarantee you that if you look up your family tree you'll find plenty of cousins paired up. It's really not a big deal.

Also one thing that too many cartoons do that really bugs me is forced relationship drama, I had to stop watching both Adventure Time and Regular Show because of the bullshit they endlessly pulled. And one of Avatar's major problems has always been how it handles the MC's relationships, most of the series Katara keeps Aang in the friendzone and then at the end she magically turns into his girlfriend, it was poorly done for the sake of drama Aang and Katara should've been together long before the finale like Sukka or Maiko. But compared to LoK Kataang is the love story of our time, remove pointless relationship nonsense from LoK and the show wouldn't even be two seasons long.

Honestly the only modern cartoons that I can think of that do a good job of handling young love are Gumball and Steven Universe.

>>85755877
>It's just a side consequence of a good story. When the characters come alive in people's minds and they start to care about them, they want them to be happy, and finding love and romance is part of that
/thread

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>>85762004
>Trunks fucking a murder bot

>>85778834
So's waifu/husbando-fagging.

All cut from the same cloth.

>>85755764

>not having a gf you can share and discuss your mutual ships with
A+ relationship for almost a year now, good times.

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>all the shippers on this thread saying "i-its perfectly n-normal and pure! I-its just show that you like the characters"

Usually shippers done give a fuck for characterization.

Shippers DON'T.GIVE.A.FUCK.ABOUT.CHARACTERIZATION

>>85780766
this reads likes some weird callout post on tumblr written by a teenager

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>>85781252
In it you are wrong, I'm a fucking degenerate.

Just saying that shippers don't care about characterization and almost always make them act OOC for the sake of the shipping. If you have to change the personalitty of the characters, do you really like the characters?

>>85755720
Its câncer.

>>85780766
There are loads of different ways to ship, generalizing like that is retarded. Some shippers are rabid morons, some only overly enthusiastic, some care about the characterization and some don't.

>>85767355
Well, shipping got me to
a) start working on my art through drawing fanart, getting better at linework and anatomy all the time and
b) start creative writing, I started to write a fic for my crackship, it's 70+k words now and growing, and I also took some creative writing classes and am working on an original story now which I hope will eventually be an actual book.

So without a doubt, obsessively shipping Helsa has been fantastic for jumpstarting my creativity. Anyhow I don't see shipping, when done right, as being that far from being creative. Writing a novel is somewhat similar - you imagine up fictional characters and try to figure out how their relations would go, how they would feel and why, what they would do. With shipping, it's similar, except that someone else created the characters and the setting, and it's all more romance-oriented.

Whining about shipping is stupid imo. Romance and the search for love is a big thing for humans, an eternal theme in entertainment because trying to find love is such a big deal for many people. So naturally a huge chunk of storytelling will always revolve over the trials of loving. It's part of human nature.

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>>85782847
>Whining about shipping is stupid imo. Romance and the search for love is a big thing for humans, an eternal theme in entertainment because trying to find love is such a big deal for many people. So naturally a huge chunk of storytelling will always revolve over the trials of loving. It's part of human nature.

Yes, how can someone EVEN whatch Don't Hug Me, I'm Scared, WITHOUT considering who the characters are fucking???

>>85765134
I'll admit I have in the past, shipped characters because they're colour palates looked nice by each other.

I don't take shipping very seriously.

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>>85783095

>>85783095
What would be the child of a notepad and a clock?

>>85756739
That's complete garbage are you kidding me

>>85785582

A calendar

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>>85782847

>this whole post

>>85783095
>Yes, how can someone EVEN whatch Don't Hug Me, I'm Scared, WITHOUT considering who the characters are fucking???

That isn't what the guy you were responding to said, but you do you.

>>85788237
Don't tell me, "only mentally ill people write stories or draw pictures about fictional characters"?

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>>85783095
Oh that shit is just for shits and giggles memes/shitposting but since people are actually drawing it's a little better than spamming copypasta here. Not sure why your panties are in a bunch

>>85788186
that's actually clever.

>>85788788
>Oh that shit is just for shits and giggles memes/shitposting


hahahahhahahahaha no.

>>85782847
sure thing bro

>>85788788
>implying

>>85788788
>since people are actually drawing it's a little better

Not if their art is garbage.

>>85791657
Actually you only get good by drawing.

>>85755764
shippers can as well as have too much time on their hands, and they can only find joy through shipping.

>>85791657
>Not if their art is garbage.

But the only way to make yourself not garbage at art is by...making art.

I think shipping is stupid, but I know a lot of people creating/storyboarding cartoon shows today were writing and drawing shipping fan art a decade or two ago, and it's not uncommon for novelists and other writers to start that way now either. So between them and people who spend all day complaining about Jew conspiracies in comics and tv, I know which seems more likely to be a productive member of society in ten years and which is more likely to shoot a few dozen people.