Frozen is only three years old and already the visuals aged like

They rewrote the movie so much they had to rush the animation

>>85677279
because the movie was over hyped garbage?

>>85677279

The Gif you posted wasnt even the final version of movie, dumbass.

>Frozen
>three years old

You're shitting me. It's only been a month or so, right? Half a year tops.

Rushed, rewritten movie that recycled character designs and had not much time to dot the Is and fuck the Ts.

>>85677279
>>85677399
Jesus fuck

Jesus Christ it actually is from 2013. I thought it was a year old at most.

Oh look, another Frozen hate thread for 3 years straight.

Admit it, you all love the movie ;)

It had animation and texture errors on release.
It hasnt aged at all.

The visuals were mediocre on when it was new.
Dumbass fucking kids on /co/.

>>85677438

I'm absolutely baffled. I thought Frozen was from last year or newer, and I was leaning towards newer.

>>85677452
No, it's just hatred. I understand that you want to convince yourself otherwise, with your family situation and all.

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>>85677496

Tell me about my family situation, my fellow /frz/ lovers ;-)

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>>85677279
Twoz a fine film

>>85677480
Hey long time no see

>>85677279
The movie was aged at the time of release. It was trash all around.

Let It Go.

>>85677279
there are ps1 cutscenes with better graphics than that

>>85677669

Give me some examples.

>>85677279
it should have been done in 2d

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>>85677279

Do your research first before shitpost.

>>85677279
If you already hate it and are actively looking for flaws then of course you're going to find them.

I'm not trying to defend Frozen because it wasn't great, but it probably wasn't, like, complete fucking shit either.

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Because it was always garbage and you now just woke up to realize that?

>>85677787
Is this Shrek?

Because it was always garbage and you just now woke up to realize that it was garbage

>>85677279
Let it go

Because 2D always surpasses 3D.

>>85677279
The animation was sub-par already when the movie came out. They kept rewriting and rewriting the plot so that the main bulk of the movie had to be animated in less than 6 months, iirc. Essentially they spent as long animating the 7-minute Frozen Fever short that they did the Frozen movie itself.

From wikipedia
>By November 2012, the production team thought they had finally "cracked" the puzzle of how to make the film's story work,[38]:155 but according to Del Vecho, in late February 2013, it was realized that the film still "wasn't working", which necessitated even more rewriting of scenes and songs from February through June 2013.
(the movie was released in November 2013, and they were still writing in June.)
>In June (five months before the already-announced release date), the songwriters finally got the film working when they composed the song "For the First Time in Forever", which, in Lopez's words, "became the linchpin of the whole movie."
>That month (June 2013, 5 mo before release), Disney conducted test screenings of the half-completed film with two audiences (one made up of families and the other made up of adults)[68] in Phoenix, Arizona,[64] at which Lasseter and Catmull were personally present.[60][71] Lee recalled that it was the moment when they realized they "had something, because the reaction was huge."

Normally Disney movies have a lot, LOT longer to animate. Kristen Bell remembers that the voice actors had been already working for about 6 months before everything was scrapped and Elsa was written as a sympathetic character acting out of fear, and not the villain acting out spite she'd been until then. So Frozen suffered from a shit script that didn't quite work, and the writer-producers just finally found something to make it work extremely late.

So they had to choose between a polished project with a nonworking dynamic and a shit rush job with a working core dynamic. They went for the latter.

>>85677279
That's not from the movie itself, it's an early animation test

>>85678002

But they did make a right choice though.

>>85678027
The movie sucked, but if your only meter of success is how much money it made and the rating, then sure. Who cares about a good story when you make big bucks right?

>>85678027
Yeah, absolutely. Sometimes I shudder to think what it could have been, with onion-hair Elsa just freezing Anna's heart out of spite, having a rap called "cool with me", Olaf being super obnoxious and into eating (Apparently, one of Jennifer Lee's first notes when she was brought abroad the project had been "kill the fucking snowman", as Olaf had been sleazy-gluttonous-obnoxious, I think we see echoes of that olaf in the merch pic related) and the entire second act just being Anna trying to get to Hans to kiss him and not die and Elsa trying to stop her so she'd die or whatever.

Frozen and its success shows that the story is still a bit more important than the animation. If the dynamic works, people will like the movie even if the animation is shoddy and full of errors and clones - as long as you have some nice lighting and some scenes are pretty and the places where people look, like the expressions, are well directed, it'll be fine.

Sometimes I do wish we'd get a finished version of Frozen though. Like one where they spent the same time animating and polishing the scenes that they normally do. But such is life.

>>85678117
It didn't really suck. It had some plot holes but the core dynamic and conflict is touching and managed to move people the world over, which is why it became such a huge hit.

And besides, they rewrote the project even though it meant shit technical quality precisely because they cared about the good story, so much that they were ready to sacrifice the animation quality if it meant the story would be improved. Your criticism is a bit off the mark here.

>>85678264
The movie totally did suck though, the plot and pacing didn't work at all, and the characterization was incredibly shallow and bland. Its success only shows the power of a pop song and marketing

>>85678117

Money wins no matter what people says.

Also the movie is not Justin Bieber tier of bad tho. it was Ok 6.5/10 movie.

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>>85678330

Haters gonna keep hating ;-)

Reminder that Frozen was actually shit.

>>85677279
Because it was never meant to be or devised as a tentpole movie. It was thrown together to fill the winter gap in Disney's schedules and at one point it was going to be direct to DVD.
Eventually it ended up in the cinema with no expectations and it really did look like a weak bomb. People forget that it was being shown for a month or so with not much fuss before it started gaining traction, once it had it took off exponentially for some reason.

I've seen people call it one of the best-animated CGI movies they had ever seen and that blows my mind.

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>>85678330
>Its success only shows the power of a pop song and marketing
You don't really know what you're talking about. Frozen becoming a huge hit caught Disney by surprise, in Christmas 2013 everywhere was sold out of Frozen merch and there were newspaper articles about how desperate parents were paying hundreds for Elsa merch that retailed for a fraction of the price or such.

Frozen initially got marketed just as much as Zootopia or Wreck-it-Ralph. Disney didn't think it'd be a hit, probably because it was such a rushed clusterfuck - hell, the songwriters joked about how they thought that Frozen would pull down their careers and they'd end up working as birthday party clowns. They thought it'd tank.

It's only after they were caught by surprise by the insane demand for merch that they started to push it like crazy. But the marketing push actually followed after the demand, the movie gained popularity on its own, as opposed to for example the Minions which got a crazy marketing effort going for it already pre-release.

Also Frozen sold very well abroad as well, and in my country at least it wasn't marketed that much at all. It got popular on its own strength, because people liked the movie despite the shoddy animation and unpolished plot full of holes.

I'm sure that the crazy tidal wave of merch that followed once Disney swore no customer dollar would ever again slip by due to merch shortage would make one think that Frozen's popularity was due to the marketing, but that's objectively wrong. Frozen has a lot of problems but credit where credit is due, it did get popular on its own, despite its flaws, with the same initial marketing effort that BH6 or WiR or Zootopia got.

Just because you don't like the type of movie it is doesn't mean it sucks.

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Dont care about the movie.

But the girls is fucking hot as fuck.

Would Walt be proud of what The Snow Queen became?

>>85678512
>Just because you don't like the type of movie it is doesn't mean it sucks.
But it's objectively really weak in the script and animation department, even compared to Tangled (not even Disney Renaissance or a Laika movie) it's a giant piece of shit.
Frozen was a sleeper hit, sure, but it benefited from being released right before kids' winter break and its thin characters being designed from the start to be marketable. And don't tell me they didn't pour a bunch of money in putting "Let it Go" everywhere once it was clear that was the movie's main draw

>>85678342
>Money wins no matter what people say
Thanks, Jews.

>>85678571
He would be proud of the box office and merch revenue.

>>85678542
Anon, I worry about you. Every time there's a Frozen thread, no matter the topic, you show up, with the same shit-tier cropped porn images, interrupting the discussion by declaring that you don't care about the movie or the plot but you just want to fap to cartoon girls. Everyone else is discussing the movie, but then you show up with the same pic yet again, thinking anyone gives a shit about what you fap to.

Why? If you don't care about the discussion, why the hell do you insist on getting into discussion threads on a blue board? If all you do is fap to cartoon girls whose stories you don't give a shit about, why don't you go to /aco/? Others like to discuss the movie, why do you try to ruin every discussion they're having? Why be such a retard? Do you have nothing else in your life but jerking off to the same shit animations? That's sad.

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>>85678611

This is (You)

>>85678488
That people seem to think it's a good movie period blows my mind. It was average at best.

>>85677669
>Look, mom! Am I fitting in yet?!

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>>85677279
>Frozen is only three years old

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>>85678651

Keep typing Anon.

Frozen only good for porn only, Movie is meh, period.

Also :

>Not fapping to cartoon girls

You are sad person, anon. I pity you :'(

>>85678652
There's nothing baity about that post, it's exactly how any rational person would feel

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>>85677279
That clip was unfinished and was the first clip they released. It wasn't used for the film, dumbass. Even Anna's model is different from the movie.

>>85678611
>it benefited from being released right before kids' winter break
Disney-Pixar has been releasing movies around that time for a long time though.
Frozen was released on Nov 23 - but Wreck it Ralph was released on November 2, BH6 on Nov 7, The Good Dinosaur Nov 25, Tangled Nov 24, PatF Dec 11, Bolt Nov 28. They all had that same benefit.

>its thin characters being designed from the start to be marketable
Pretty sure every Disney movie has its characters designed to be marketable, it's par for the course. Again, Tangled, BH6 and PatF at least definitely had the same "benefit".

And again, putting in a massive marketing push AFTER it's clear that the movie is a hit is different from claiming that "the only reason it's a hit is the marketing". I'm sure that if Tangled, WiR or BH6 would have shown the same sort of insane demand for merch they'd have received the same treatement. And they tried to put in a hit song in Zootopia, for example, sung by Shakira even, but it just didn't get the same level of hype despite probably having been put in in the hopes of it becoming a hit spurring the movie on.

So it's not just the planning and designing and marketing, there's also the variable of whether the audience likes it or not. And for whatever reason, they liked Frozen despite its flaws, so much it made Disney decide to invest in merch and marketing big time.

And I disagree that LiG was the movie's main draw. It may have gotten a lot of visibility but I'm fairly sure people don't go to the movies just to see one fancy music video.

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>>85678726

>it's exactly how any haters would feel

Fixed :D

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>>85677279

>>85677279
Jesus that hair texturing. They still have that piss-poor quality in some shots of the film & its short.

>>85678782
>And I disagree that LiG was the movie's main draw. It may have gotten a lot of visibility but I'm fairly sure people don't go to the movies just to see one fancy music video.
Little girls do, and they're the ones who demanded to go see the movie over and over. Repeat business was a big factor in its success in US & Japan, and I do actually think the song getting stuck in people's heads was a factor that contributed to that.