Why is this the only costume design that suits Superman? Every

>>85670640

You're stuck in the past Anon.

>>85670640
Because it's iconic?
Because you grew up with JLA?

I'm not sure. Pick your poison

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>>85670640
Because your nostalgiaboner prevents you from accepting change.

This looks good

>>85670698

lol this artist wants the red trunks back so bad.

All other designs are usually inferior.
>>85670698
Not as good as OP though it's better than baby blue lineslineslines

>>85670640
Cause you're a nostalgiafag

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your mind almost fills in the red underwear

Because the redness and length/width of the underwear creates a nice contrast that a belt of any color just doesn't.

>>85670698
>>85670786
>drawing the crotch in shadow
So many artists just want the red shorts back.

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MOTHERFUCKING HOURLY UNFRIENDLY REMINDER THAT THE FAGGOTS WHO WORSHIP THE DCAU AS GOSPEL DO NOT READ COMICS

>>85670698
It looks awkward without any color separation.

In all honesty it seems like a pointless change. Like it was done for the sake of changing something rather than improving something.

I agree with >>85670846 on this. If you want to get rid of the trunks then go ahead, but don't just remove them and call it a day.

>>85670881
This

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Because it's a simple, striking and visually pleasing design that, while slightly 'silly', is both iconic and totally ingrained into the popular culture, as well as being the template that every other superhero costume is derivative of.

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What would you suggest as a replacement? A sailor fuku?

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For some reason most redesigns with it still in this lighter blue makes it feel awkward to NOT have the red trunks showing. While black or gray lends itself well to a dude wearing a sold onesie, it just seems off-putting in that shade of bright blue for nothing to break it up. Some designs that increase the size of his S and give him a strong belt can make it work without the trunks though because as a whole the design balances out more.

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>>85670640
>Why is this the only costume design that suits Superman?
Because you're ignorant.

S:TAS is my favourite DCAU series easy, but it's suit design could be better

Ruby Spears which was a shitty show had better suit that they basically copied from Swan/Byrne's design

>>85670881
The DCAU is good

>>85670640
I also like 1940's serial Supes

>>85671081
never implied it wasn't

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As long as there's a clear separation, you're good.

I'm more concerned with the design of his shield.

>>85670881
DCAU is better than most periods of the ongoings.

>>85671158
that's gross

>>85671026
and so is that yellow belt

>>85671158
Holy fuck this. The one toned onesie suit looks horrendous no matter what you do with it.

>>85670698
That's a nice Ultraman costume

>>85671158
All they have to do is remove the collar and pointed sleeves and I'd be completely down with this.

Because people like to ruin good things for the sake of saying they tries something different.

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Superman needs to get with the current year already.

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Best design coming through

>>85671159
haha
for Bats maybe (MAYBE)
definitely not for Supes
Morrison JLA>DCAU JLA which I think were close to concurrent but idk I haven't watched these Cartoons in years.

>>85670698
Hope Superbro gets this costume when he comes back.

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>>85671226
A very overlooked point to the Beyond outfit is that it's basically a modified copy of the undersuit you see Jor-El wearing in STAS

>>85671158
Why do people love this design so much? It's just as awful as the Nu52 look

>>85671159
>>85671249
I think I'd say it does Byrne Superman better than Byrne, but that's about it. Most modern Superman is still better than STAS even though it was good.

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>>85671333
I don't love the design, I just like seeing a clear top and bottom separation. A onesie with a belt doesn't cut it.

>>85671276
he'll get the trunks, it's the only way this can go

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>>85670640
because from a design pov, it's very well balanced colorwise.

it's mostly blue, but has the red boots, an open neck with the red of the cape up top, and it's divided by the red briefs, that themselves are accented with a yellow belt to match the yellow in the red crest, and the red cape ties it all together by making contrast to the large blue area of his suit

tldr contrast is good and having it just be a blue onesie without the briefs unbalances the design of the suit

which is why adding a larger red belt would do better. something like this, which in keeping with the strongman theme, resembles more of a weightlifting belt, and adds that large chunk of red back to his midsection

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I wish this was the S that everyone used. It's the perfect mix of looking like the letter S, yet still alien enough.

>>85671391
That's why the new 52 Earth-2 costume was good, should have been the main universe costume. I don't know what they were thinking.

>>85671449
>dat pic
Ironic when you niggers shit on Snyder for that exact shot.

Humanity is a joke.

I'll *tip* myself out.

Messing with Superman's design is like messing with Coca Cola's font. Once you hit the sweet spot there is no real reason to keep changing it.

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>>85671508
That gay looking yellow stripe on the boots and fag green shit in the middle, fuck off

>>85671569
>green

anon you should get your eyes checked

>>85671623
Nah I'm with the other anon. That shit's like highlighter yellow-green.

>>85671623
Dude, it's the weird little green diamond, I see it too.

>>85671501
the context is completely different.

>>85671685
And?

>>85671501
I'm just referencing the shield. It was the first image I found.

>>85670640
Because no matter how you dress up your argument, substantial changes to Superman's costume always boil down to "This character is wrong and needs fixing".

It's not a coincidence that the costume changes so often coincide with characterization changes.

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>>85670640
Oh shut the fuck up bitch outside underwear will never come back. Its stupid outdated and pretty gay looking. You don't see Spider-man the most popular and iconic superhero in the world currently wearing his undergarments on the outside.

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>>85671767
Needs red boots

>>85671767
>spider-man
>most popular and iconic superhero in the world

lol close but nah

>>85671767

>spider-man
>most popular and iconic superhero in the world

You wish, Marveldrone. That's either Superman or Batman.

>>85671501
Because more often than not when the comics show images like that Superman's actually, y'know, being a simple of hope.

>>85671767
That picture has the underwear, it's just re-colored

>>85671767
You can visibly see the outline of the underwear in that image.

>>85673053
>too stupid for a summer blockbuster
christ on a stick

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>>85673090
The Superman who's presented as a christ-like figure in the comics is a symbol of hope to both the characters within the story and the readers.

Happy now?

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>>85673131
>too stupid for a summer blockbuster

>>85671718
And contexts matters unless you're autistic.
Example: Everybody poops but if you shit your pants in public you'd better be prepared to ride the short bus.

>>85673226
>And contexts matters
lots of imbligadions here

>>85670863
This. No point in trying to fix what was never broken

>>85671311
Thanks, Anon. That was actually quite insightful.

>>85671501
There's a difference between a few images being Christ invoking and completely retooling the entire fucking story to make him a shallow Jesus allegory hammered over and over in case you impossibly missed the obvious shitty framing.

>>85673271
I'm not much of a fan of adding pointless lines to Flash's costume since his original design is perfect. However, there's something about the N52 look (minus the black logo on the cape) and the MoS look that I really love. I'm a fan of trunks, but I'm a slightly bigger fan of no trunks.

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>>85671508
I like pic related more. I don't know if it's because the blues and reds are darker or what, but it resonates with me.

>>85673340
>However, there's something about the N52 look (minus the black logo on the cape) and the MoS look that I really love. I'm a fan of trunks, but I'm a slightly bigger fan of no trunks.
this

>>85670881
The DCAU is more consistent than comics, and also pretty good. Most of the comics are fucking ass and canon is a shitty mess. That said I do enjoy and read comics.

>>85673433
Not that anon, but I know I can't be alone in thinking that the DCAU is pretty bad. The majority of Batman and Justice league is crap and Superman is pretty forgettable.

Beyond was good though.

>>85673467
this

>>85673433
not this

>>85673467
You're not alone, but I hope you're aware that that is a fairly rare opinion.

>>85673501
it's only rare because so many people are plebs, he's 100% accurate

>>85673501
yeah I know, especially when it comes to Batman. I just can't help but bring it up though since the DCAU is what kept me away from DC for years and years and years. And then I finally find out the comics are actually good! Makes me mad that I missed out on it for so long. Hell, Green Lantern is my favorite superhero character but he used to be my most hated thanks to JL. I still have trouble liking J'onn in JL comics.

>>85673467
>>85673501
>>85673551
the real litmus test is what you think of BvS

>>85671767
>Its stupid outdated and pretty gay looking

>>85673394

>>85673569
>Green Lantern is my favorite superhero

I see, so you are just retarded.
This explains everything.

>>85673467
Superman Animated is really good outside of the Darkseid stuff

>>85673650
Sometimes I wonder if I've the I.Q. of a guacamole.

>>85673574
I like it. It's nothing like the comics, which is exactly what I want from a comic book movie.

>>85670994
He kinda looks like The "Dwayne" Rock Johnson

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>>85673721
>I like it. It's nothing like the comics, which is exactly what I want from a comic book movie.
LITERALLY the right and objectively correct view of BvS.
Proud of you, anon.

>>85673574
it's worse than the DCAU

>>85673786
wooh, at least I got something right.

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>>85673836
AENHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

WRoNG ANswER

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3rd is literally GOAT. 2nd isn't bad either, though.

>>85673938
need an edit with the cape blue too just so I can see where DC is going with this

>>85670640
Because your values and tastes are formed by decent cartoons.

OR:

>>85670689
>>85670698
>>85670774
>>85670915


And: >>85671026
This

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>>85671391

>>85670640
It's because all the times they went with non-underwear Superman designs since the New 52 onwards, it's been marred by something that gave bad first impressions or did not present Superman at his best. New 52 Justice League's first arc, Earth 2, Injustice, Man of Steel, BvS. So now even though New 52 Superman got better stories over time and Pre-FP Superman is back, you associate the non-underwear design with bad attempts to darken the character or make him look ineffective.

>>85671249
It's the complete opposite. Supes was pure shit in the 90s and majority of post crisis era. Batman had had Moench, Milligan, LotDK and no man's land when DCAU was going on.

>>85675906
his claim was not period specific
>>85671159

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>>85670640

It's ok, anon. There's a wealth of information out there for the comic fan about how to deal with the way things change.

http://www.medic8.com/mental-health/autism/dealing-with-change.html

>>85671517
This right here

>>85676154
>>85676226
>if you don't always like all changes, you're an autist

>>85670640
We should ban Trunkfags just like we do with Damianfags

>>85670640
Move the fuck on

>>85670640
Bitch, have you even seen Lord Superman?

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this costume was perfect

>>85676602
Just give him the fucking shorts back. They're just going to give hm another ugly redesign in a few months anyways.

>>85671159
>>85673433
You're casual as fuck and don't have nearly enough experience with comics to say things like "most of the comics are ass".

Your baseless assumptions and preconceptions are not fact. You've read a handful of comics, some pages posted here and probably mostly Wikipedia entries, and yet you act like your opinion on comics is worth anything at all.

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>>85670640

That's funny OP, it doesn't look like image

How come Batman looks great without trunks but Supes doesn't? Is it the color scheme?

I love Superman-underoos threads the way I love waitress-tipping threads.

In both cases the whiners are completely powerless, the only thing they *can* do is go post on internet forums.

Your minimum-wage-making ass has precisely zero power in dictating anything, you can declare you consider 30% to be the standard but it doesn't make it so. And you can declare your love for the red trucks but they ain't coming back.

>>85677042

People bitched about trunk-less Bats too, but its been a common look for him for 30 years now so people have come to accept it as normal. The answer to your question is a simple one, "time".

>>85670640
because you're not a try hard edgy pleb

>>85670640
But the trunks there are black with a red stripe. Timm literally called it that so it's not just shading.

Has any cosplayer tried it?

>>85670640
But the body proportions are shit.

>>85676986
I like how post-flashpoint DC hints to Easter eggs to other continuities, like purple gloves Batman in Zero Year, or
Superman x Wonder Woman like in Red Son, DK2
Superman's new 52 suit with neck part like in Red Son
Superman pre-crisis new costume with boots same color with tights like in Red Son in particular pic related

>>85671623
Maybe it's you fucked up, cause I am already 3rd who see green.

>>85676654
Only in Batman / Superman new 52

>>85676510
>>if you don't always like all changes, you're an autist

If you bitch about red underwear for five years then yes, you have autism. Wapner's on in 10 minutes.

>>85677042
Grey isn't blue.

Most superheroe costumes are pretty silly, but we give them a pass. The whole concept is pretty stupid. Try to make them serious and subdued and you bring it into sharp relief how dumb it is to wear what Superman wears. Only way is to go all the way in like you don't care.

>>85679132
That's not autism, that's good taste

>>85670881
>I unironically enjoyed new 52: the post

>>85679915
insecure DCAU child detected

>>85670881
Comic books existed before 2011 you mouthbreather.

>>85679925
Shouldn't you be reading "DC universe fondles a big blue penis: The Event"?

>>85679915
>>85679936
wew

>>85680007
>let me post this meme response in place of an actual retort

wew

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>>85680067

>>85680093
>can't defend shit taste
>more meme responses

Time for you to go outside and get some fresh air, junior.

>>85680135
>defends children's cartoons on the internet
>talks down to people
really makes you think

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>>85680200
>defends children's cartoons on the internet

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>>85680208
just putting things into perspective 4u m8

>>85676656
THE TRUNKS ARE DUMB

>>85680221
i'm not the guy you were responding to earlier, but you're in /co/ man, everyone here's an autistic manchild.

>>85673433
>The DCAU is more consistent than comics
Probably not if it went for 75 years.

>>85680237
not I
I read and enjoy comics
but I don't obsess over a severely overrated children's cartoon adaptation of said comics

>>85680200
>defends modern comics
>backpeddles with the "lolcartoonsareforkids" argument

You were doing better with the ebin memes senpai-a-lam.

>>85680314
your post makes no sense

modern comics are not for kids

>>85676656
Absolutely this
>>85680225
Fuck off. If you can't handle a little silliness, you have no business reading capes

>>85680369
Sure thing, kiddo.

I get it though. You watched the Nolan Triloghy and got into capeshit. That would explain your shame in reading/watching something for children, seeing as how you only got started with the genre since you were an adult.

I've been reading them since I could read. That would the year 1991 and onward. They haven't changed that much content wise. They're not that much more "adult" then when I was a wee lad. Making an unpopular change to a costume for film synergy doesn't do anything to make it more "mature" either.

>>85670640
It doesn't, you're just being retarded.

>>85679163
>Try to make them serious and subdued and you bring it into sharp relief how dumb it is to wear what Superman wears.
Try to take it seriously and you bring into sharp relief how stupid it is to be who Superman is and do what he does, too.

>>85680592
????

comics haven't been for kids in 40 years

also I started with PAD Young Justice at age 7

>>85671249
Whut Batman in the 90s was breddy great especially Legends of the Dark Knight

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>>85680496
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>>85680681
>comics haven't been for kids in 40 years
>I started reading a comic book marketed for kids when I was 7

Good point.

>>85671182
Swan, Byrne and Quietly all made the Yellow Belt work, and work well

>>85680795
whoops
but YJ really was an exception
PAD said he was told to skew young, implying that most comics are not for young people

>>85679915
>I didn't read the new 52 but am an assmad continuityfag (that I learned about from Wikipedia): the post

>>85680841
You "if you don't read modern dc you don't read comics" fags are the absolute worst.

Sorry if I prefer better comics from a better time.

>>85680969
>if you don't read modern dc you don't read comics
no one has said this though

>>85681000
You just imply it.

>>85677751
>Your minimum-wage-making ass has precisely zero power

Wait, you're on the right side of the Superman issue, but think you can eat at a restaurant and *not* tip? If you can't afford to tip then you can't afford to eat. Keep your broke ass home.

In MURICA of course. If you're in a country that actually pays servers actual money then you're in the clear.

>>85677751
>30%

[citation needed]

The only people who prefer the trunks-less look are new 52 apologists and dceu /tv/ faggots. You're probably both of these.

Daily reminder that everything wrong with DC currently is epitomized by them getting rid of the trunks and those people defending it don't understand comics.

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>>85670902
>done for the sake of changing something rather than improving something

This sums up 90% of Superman redesigns. I do like pic related though

>>85682937
>My opinions are facts and everyone who disagrees sucks dick.

They usually teach grade school children the difference between facts and feelings. How did they manage to fuck up and let this happen?

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>>85671226
This and '93 are the only alternate costumes I like. The suit from the alternate universe episode where Supes and Lex are working together is good too.

>>85683481
You're the genius who presented "facts" as opinions. I just wanted you to back up your claims.

Didn't think you could.

Change for the sake of change is pointless at best.

Spitefully shitting on anybody who prefers the better, original design just means you have issues.

>>85670881
DCAU is consistently better than the comics.

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>no one posting the best superman ever
Shame

>>85684106
>Didn't think you could.

That wasn't me. I'm a third party swinging by to call you an asshole for saying "my opinion is right, your opinion makes you a faggot."

I guess you missed the day they talked about making assumptions too. You just made an 'ass' out of 'u' and 'mption'.

>>85684674
You misunderstood me entirely then.

My opinion's not right. But it is certainly better than your opinion. That's what makes you a faggot.

>>85673346
This would be an instant 10/10 if they went with it. It just feels like DC is intentionally making Superman costumes bad at this point.

Bump for good thread

>>85685122
>My opinion's not right. But it is certainly better than your opinion.

Your opinion about the relative worth of our opinions still isn't a fact. Am I going to hae to draw you a picture? Help me help you. At what age did your teachers give up on you?

After you answer I'll try to use answers that you'll have an easier time understanding.

>>85684638

This guy gets it.

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Not Clark but I always loved Superhombre's design

>>85670640
Because it's iconic

Imagine if Nintendo redesigned Mario without the hat

>>85676704
>your baseless assumptions
says the anon while literally baselessly assuming things about other anons.

though in general I agree with your view of DCAU fans

>>85684638
The costume is inferior to the DCAU one, but that is still the best Superman hands down.

>>85684638
The very best.

>>85671026
>posts the exact same suit
>"this is a better suit"

uh

>>85671226
I never got this emblem. Is that even an S anymore?

>>85690077
>At what age did your teachers give up on you?

Not sure. Memory's fuzzy. I think it was the age I was just starting to dump DNA down your mothers esophagus.

Those were good years altogether.

>>85670640
Ditching the red trunks is bad for more reasons than just nostalgia goggles, without them there's just too much fucking blue. Draws attention to the fact he's wearing tights and makes the cape look odd. Also, just putting a half assed belt there is even more awkward looking. I've seen designs without the trunks that look ok, like this one >>85671023 but they aren't in the comic.

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rate this design I "did"

>>85699878
5/10