>Tumblr says Dick Grayson isn't a male power fantasy

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>>85667598
So?

>So hot women are basically compelled to "rape" him
Do you not think it's possible for a woman to rape a man or

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>>85670516
who literally cares?

>>85667598
No he's not a male power fantasy since girls like him. Just like if an ugly guy hits on her then it's creepy but if a hot guy does it then it's good.

>>85670580
> unwanted advances are creepy

well, they are.

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>>85670475

>>85667598
Being raped is a male power fantasy?

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>>85670621
we're all just looking for love anon
people aren't mind readers, they don't know if someone isn't interested right away
they'll never know if they don't try

>>85667598
>been the leader of one of the greatest vigilante teams of all time
>gifted leader
debatable

anyway he's vulnerable, emotional, and gets his ass kicked frequently, and female readers usually like that kind of thing

>>85670672
You are free to try, and the girl is free to find you creepy.

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>>85670625

>>85670715
This

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>>85670714

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>>85670621
Never said they weren't. It's just a double standard that many girls have.

>>85670672
>>85670715
If a guy wants to get a girl then what's the new method? Obviously the walk up and take one method is now outdated, according to you.

>>85670744
I'm okay with this

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>>85670828
> walk up to girl
> if she's not attracted, she finds you creepy.
> cut your loses and stop bothering her
> she's attracted to you, welcomes the advance
> jackpot

or are you expecting EVERY single girl you talk to to be attracted to you?

Of course he's a power fantasy. The entire concept of superheores and masked vigilantes is inherently a power fantasy. So what?

>>85670905
I'm personally not interested in doing this kind of stuff, what I am interested is what people think they should do. So this means ugly guys can't get girls right? Since every girl will find him creepy? That was kind of the point I was trying to make.

>>85670828
It's not outdated. You go up to a girl, you talk to her, you ask her out. She will either say yes or no, and if she says no, the girl may consider you creepy for trying. Do you consider anything without a hundred percent success rate and 0 possible consequences or repercussions to be outdated?

Also,
>It's just a double standard that many people have.
Fixed. If a hot girl approached you and asked you out, you'd love it. If a landwhale tumblrina did it, you'd call her creepy and desperate.

>>85670868
>using protection
>not making a little Mar'i

gross

It's a shit character straight out some novel for women.
No wonder the faggots here love him so much.

>>85671071
4/10

Bait harder next time

Dick, Bucky, Wally, those guys are all literally insert characters for the readers

>>85670959
Every man to his taste, anon. Girls like different things - ugly but confident? smart? have sexy voice? well-dressed?

Many girls cream themselves over Ron Perlman for example, and he isn't conventionally attractive.

Only absolute 0s find no one.

Tumblr also says Dick is some kind of femboy, despite him being drawn marginally slimmer than most of the other heroes.

Sometimes fandoms just get some strange conceptions going.

Who let /r9k/ here?

>>85667598
Dick Grayson is a female sexual fantasy

>>85670625

Being so desirable that beautiful women want to rape you is a power fantasy, yes. Unfortunately most female-on-male rape is not perpetrated by attractive women.

>>85670516

Just the ugly ones.

Even then the man wouldn't really give a shit unless he's taking on the ass

>>85667598
He is a male power fantasy just as much as James Bond is.

Honestly it is kind of disgusting and I find the men who write this kind of thing pathetic but my female friends love him so I have to keep my mouth shut.

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>>85670868
>two condoms

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>>85671172
I mean, it's not like him being a top tier acrobat has anything to do with that? Right? Right?

>>85670964
I'm not that guy but I would just think she wasn't my type and move on with my life. Creepy is kind of personal.

>>85671441
>I mean, it's not like him being a top tier acrobat has anything to do with that?

Have anything to do with what?

>>85671463
His body being slimmer than other DC heroes anon.

He's a bigger power fantasy than Batman, actually.

He's usually seen as a cross between Batman and Superman, what with being named Nightwing and characters constantly going on that he has the potential to being the best leader the Justice League will ever have and that he's the one guy capable of united all the meta-human community.

Oh, and every female finds him hot. ALL OF THEM.

>>85670964
>if she says no, the girl may consider you creepy for trying

Helluva confidence booster.

>>85671370
>calls writers pathetic
>too much of a pussy to talk about it to a friend

>>85671463

If he's slimmer it's only slightly. He's pretty much always drawn to be ripped.

If you want slim, look at Tim.

>>85671575
If that makes you nervous, you really don't have the confidence to get a girl anyway.

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>>85670625
Being raped is a popular fantasy. That's all.

>>85667598
His main love interest is a cripple

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>>85671511
>He's a bigger power fantasy than Batman, actually.

Woah, woah, woah let's not get carried away. No ones a bigger escape fantasy than Mary-Sue -Man. Bruce is pretty much every nerd characteristic made into being cool.

>Dude you've got no social skills
>N..nuh uh. I'm just aloof and focused and women love me for it.

>>85671677

No she isn't.

>>85671370
You're more pathetic because the writer does his action for money while you do it out of fear.

>>85671695

>Dude you've got no social skills
>N..nuh uh. I'm just aloof and focused and women love me for it.

Huh? No they don't. Where does the whole "every woman wants Batman's dick" meme come from anyway?

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>marcus to isn't gonna be on nightwing until #10

literally why

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>>85671738
>meme

Come on man. Dudes one giant lowest common denominator nerd fantasy. He's not the super speshul deep character you believe him to be just because you feel some kind of connection.

>>85671752
https://www.instagram.com/p/BI5174uDdd8

>>85671810
https://www.instagram.com/p/BHVwvj_DYai

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>>85671595
>>85671735
It's more like I don't want to stir up shit and I just want to let them enjoy what they like. I mentioned it once to one of them and it was obvious she didn't want to hear it so I let it go. Anyways they don't like any of the comics I think of as a female power fantasy so whatever, truce.

>>85671803

uh ok.

>>85670765
Was this run of Teen Titans even good?

>>85671856
Your friends are really so thin-skinned that they get triggered at hearing opinions they don't agree with? I wouldn't want those friends. Why have opinions if you can't defend them?

>>85671982
Absolutely not.

Shit art and Winick was the writer.

>>85672007
Teen titans hasn't been doing good lately huh...

>>85672076
they have like 2 or 3 okay to good runs

thankfully for them said runs are fairly long

>>85672107
Have you read the Starfire solo series? Any good? Her run with Jason Todd and pals was whatever.

>>85670715
that's just mean though, to not want it is one thing, but to think a man is creepy for trying? it says a lot about a person's character to assume so much about another

>>85667598
I love when people defend that he isn't Mary Sue.
>l-look, he has trouble settling down!

>>85670905
i would expect people not to be so shallow

>>85672188
Her solo is pretty good but they made her pretty dumb because most people know her from the cartoon.

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>>85671463
Gymnasts are stronk though. Don't know where this conception that you have to be a twink to be acrobatic comes from.

>>85672306
Yeah gymnasts are short and jacked as fuck

>>85672306

Most Olympic medalist-level gymnasts are pretty small and sinewy.

>>85672255
no one is going to quizz you about your life story for a date. Learn to make a good first impression.

>>85672002
Not really triggered, I think they just don't understand where I'm coming from and don't want to understand. We have more pulls in common than not anyway and have a lot of comics we can talk about aside from Nightwing so it works out.

>>85672431
I know what you mean. It just kind of ticks me off when certain topics are "off-limits" if they aren't personal, you know? I'm not really a fan of small talk and safe discussions.

>>85667598
Not just a human being. I would kill ANYTHING if it meant I got to be Dick Grayson.

>>85670714
operative word here being his "ass"

>>85670714

I mean, you just described Batman...

>>85672353
No they are fucking jacked

Dick isn't a power fantasy because he's best boy, it's just that simple

>>85672306
>>85672353
the diving guys are the twinks not the gymnasts

t. I just spent the last 3 weeks watching the Olympics

>>85673614
>>85673703

Yeah like I said, they're like 5'5" and ripped. They don't have Superhero-esque body-builder mass, they're small, compact and defined.

>>85672229
That's just the world we live in,anon. We can only just make the best of it, and hope they don't think too low of us for trying to find love.

>>85667598
Women are retarded, in other news, water is wet.

>>85671617
LOL LOL LOL

Il really don't getting the appeal of this character. People say they have Mary Sue and this character is the while definition of it

>Competent ask Batman if not better
>Everyone loves him
>He's super hot
>Everyone loves him
>MUH acrobatics
>Dank secret agent
>"he will be the best batman ever"

How more lame can this character be? This guy is pure power fantasy, you wish you were him.

>>85675449
He is a fan service character and some fans like this kind of character (ex: Harley).

I actually think he is dull and only interesting when he's a supporting character to someone.

>>85667598
I don't wanna be Dick, I just want to fuck him.

>>85675486
He's completely uninteresting. His character revolve around wanking

>>85675683
Oh, I totally agree which is why I called him a fan service character.

>>85667598
they want to fuck him. Their idea of male power fantasy vs female sexual fantasy is whether or not he's fuckable purely from their point of view

>>85667598
Doesn't Nightwing have a lot of women fans?

When hes lean and not muscular, Dick Grayson is pretty fucking hot, and also a Male Fantasy, he fits both roles

>>85675764
He does, but it seems that Red Hood has surpassed him by having more fangirls lately.

>>85675791
No, Red Hood just has DT

>>85675486
I feel so too. Grayson was an interesting run to me because of the premise and him bouncing off of the other supporting characters, not because of him. By himself, he's completely dull.

>>85675449
lol no

Batman is the biggest self-insert character in fiction. Hell, Jason gets even more Mary Sue treatment these days.

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>>85675815
>Jason Todd
>Mary Sue
You can only choose one.

>>85675815
No, Batman has been written by a lot of competent who have successfully fleshed out him and his supporting cast, unlike Nightwing or Jason who have been toys for a select few mediocre writers who depend on fan service.

>>85675834
Have you read Red Hood and the Outlaws?

> Jason is the greatest student of some elite assassin organization
> Jason is the chosen one
> Jason can beat Batman
> All the Batfamily forgives Jason because he can do what the Batfamily can't
> Roy is emotionally dependent on Jason

>>85675845
> Wolfman, Morrison, Snyder, King are mediocre writers

>>85670475
WTF I love Dick now.

>>85675449
>>85675486
/co/ really has a creepy hate fetish against dick for some reason

>>85670959

>So this means ugly guys can't get girls right?

Depends how ugly you are really. If you're morbidly obese or a victim of severe burns in the face, yes. Otherwise no, you dont have to always look like Legolas, you can look like Gimli as well if you compensate it with your personality and self-confidence.

Heres a proper confidence boost: All the casanovas and hot men who get the girls tend to get rejected more than scoring when they ask women out. Now the big difference is that the guy who gets the girls does not give a fuck that he gets rejected, he shrugs it off, immediatly forgets the girl and tries to sway another one. Their success rate can be as low as 10-20% but they will get the girl within the night when they have been talking to 10-20 different girls during it.

Meanwhile the shy hikikomoris get discouraged by the very first rejection and think theres something wrong to them to a point they will never get a girl. And it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy because they never try to get one afterwards.

Generally if you're rich as fuck, you get girls immediatly because of all the gold diggers out there. But if you're not, self confidence is the key. You have to both show the self confidence to the girls you're asking out, and you have to have the self confidence to not give a fuck about inevitable rejections. Every man gets rejected at least once per night. The guy who gets the girl in the end is the one who keeps trying.

>>85675973
> telling /co/ yetis that they might get girls

anon please

>>85675889
I did and I don't understand how any of this makes him a Mary Sue?

>Jason can beat Batman
No he can't. He even admitted that he can only stand a chance against him if he cheated.
>All the Batfamily forgives Jason bcause he can do what the Batfamily can't
>All the Batfamily
Did you actually read RHATO?

>>85675988
Did you read RHATO, or do you just reblog the same two Batdad panels over and over again?

The book is stuffed with nonstop exposition of how Jason is some special assassin wizard who can do what Batman can't, followed by "OMG Jason does something awesome" scenes. There's no character progression, outside of flashbacks that handwave in his supposed development. There's a reason why Jasonfags only talk about his "epic feats", and throw rage fits any time a more competent writer (Morrison, King, Tomasi, etc) use him and portray him as anything other than a super special fighter

>>85675988
>No he can't. He even admitted that he can only stand a chance against him if he cheated.
That's just shitty WWE-style hand waving writing used to excuse a character beating someone who's supposed to have a higher power level

"OMG John Cena just beat the Undertaker!"
"But the Undertaker had a stubbed toe!"

>>85676047
He was the only one who didn't beat a talon in the night of Owls crossover and he get saved many freaking times by Kori and Roy.

Yes, he super special aw

>>85676087
k

>>85676157
Me:1 You:0

>>85671112
Nah, Tim is the self insert character.

>>85676221
No, people just want to insert themselves into Tim

>>85671112
>a fictional character can never evolve past a role they were created for 50 years ago

>>85675973
What about the guy on r9k who asked out over 500 girls and then was completely shut out because he got a reputation for asking out girls?

>>85670622
who's hands are those

>>85671609
After all, all women are produced in the same cloning facility.

>>85671281
>they're a man, they'd probably like getting raped unless they're ugly
what a good person you are

What even IS the issue with male power fantasies? Doesn't everyone regardless of gender have fantasies about power and shit? So it's only bad when men have them?

>>85679721
ALL
WOMEN
ARE
THE
SAME

>>85672229
Depends on how you do it. What you say, the situation, your social skills all contribute to whether you sound creepy, friendly or interested.

>>85667598
>9/10 male nerds would kill another human being to be Dick Grayson
But killing is wrong.

It's pretty funny that /co/'s reaction to a character they don't like is to call them a Mary Sue.

What characters AREN'T Mary Sue's?

>>85671278
>wanting women to rape you is a power fantasy
you guys have more issues then i thought

>>85675973
Hell, some girls are really into Gimli.

I mean you see hot girls with ugly-ass dudes all the time, and it's not because they're rich or have a big dong, and it's not because they just have a winning personality. It's all about how you present yourself.

>>85677062
>/r9k/

>>85670959
Do people even take the word "creepy" seriously anymore? It's literally just turned into a synonym that white girls use to describe anything that they don't like.

>>85680404
You seem to have some difficulty with reading comprehension.

>>85680487
>it's ugly women so it's okay
i dont want anyone to rape me, ugly or not

>>85677062
He's stupid.

>>85675973
Why is a virgin giving relationship advice to other virgins on a cartoon board?

>>85680371
Jimmy Olsen

Every super hero ever created was a male power fantasy.