>Short, not a jock Flash Thompson >Non-redhead MJ >Betty

You left out the most important part
>MCU
Which means it'll do great.

>>85587071
Betty Brant was always in high school.

>>85587114
pretty much this. I have my hesitations but I'll still probably pay to see it since odds are it'll be worth it.

https://youtu.be/nMR7zc-wOjs

atleast the costume looks cool

>>85587071
C'mon bro it's Disney. Say goodbye to all your money.

>>85587071
>>Non-redhead MJ
how the fuck do you know this?
you got any source?

because if this is true, then fuck this movie so hard

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>>85587071
>Peter is Tony's Spider-Bitch
That is pretty accurate though. Peter is just a poorman's Tony Stark.

>>85587245
They just revealed the black chick they had cast is mary jane.

>>85587311
You mean that article with unsourced claims after they already revealed the other raceswaps? http://www.thewrap.com/zendaya-spider-man-homecoming-role-reveal-mary-jane-watson/

Sorry guys, it's all my fault. A while ago when they revealed Spider-Man in that Civil War trailer I got a feeling, a bad feeling about the whole Spidey movie. I was glad Peter was finally part of the MCU, but for some reason I didn't felt confident about Spidey at all despite him being my favourite super hero.

Now, reality is arranging things the worst possible way so the movie becomes a mess early, full of controversy and bad decisions so life can spit on my breakfast once again. I'm sorry, lads.

>>85587286
To be fair both Tony and Peter are a poor man's MCU Tony Stark now.

>>85587071
Who's playing Betty Brant?

>>85587407
At least it's not Amazing Spider-Man 3

Why not mentioned the biggest detractor.
The film was greenlit not even a year ago. They are rushing this film together for next year.

>>85587071
It's going to be another pretty good 8/10 Marvel film that the normies eat up and satisfies /co/, but we'll keep shitposting about it until 2019 because FUCKING DIVERSITY GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY COMIC BOOKS REEEEE

>>85587458
I'd take that over this, tbqh

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>>85587311
It is most likely true given the fact that Flash Thompson is now a short wetback instead of a tall athletic perfection.

>>85587493
Feige's not an idiot, I bet they had the script written up a few years ago just in case they got the chance.

>>85587518
Oh okay, sorry

>>85587511
fuck you mother fucker
you tumblrina faggot
what was triggering marvel so hard that they didn't fucking cast mary jane properly
this movie is just another ghost busters and it'll flop so fucking hard

>>85587518
lolno.

At least this still has a chance to not suck. Aamazing Spider-Man 2 fucked all over the franchise the way Tr4nktastick did. It was unsalvageable at that point.

Although, I would unironically take Tobey vs Garfield one billion dollar movie over both.

>>85587609
At least ASM got the fucking characters right. This whole film looks like a fucking trainwreck.

>>85587521
A jock in NYC being a short but athletic hispanic kid(probably a soccer player) seems totally reasonable to me as someone who graduated High school in the NYC area in the last 5 years. There's a ton of kids like that. They all like bantz and alternate between ripping on people and earnest friendship and I thought the casting worked perfectly in that regard. I don't expect anyone outside areas like that to grasp that, but its one of those things that actually gave me an idea of what the movie was going for.

>>85587071
Well it's pretty much Guaranteed to not suck since Marvel Studios is involved.

Still, I can see making a couple character changes to differentiate the universe and appeal to diversityfags. But seriously? MJ being a red head is like her fucking costume, you dont change that shit.

>>85587659
And that means shit because the movie was fucking garbage and no amount of "right" casting can fix that.

That Zendaya chick doesn't look black she looks hispanic, but I don't know it's possible someone who looks like that could have the last name Watson

A bit of history most people forget, when blacks were emmanicipated after the civil war, many of them took new names, primarily European names which is why you have a lot of long-standing black families with names like the ones you see in England.

Personally, I don't care much about the names of fictional characters. They could change it to Mary Jane Margarita for all I care, I'm a Gwen fanboy anyway (except in the Raimi films for MJ was played by the wonderful Kirsten Dunst)

>but she's not a red head

They can dye her hair, it's cool

>>85587071
>Non-redhead MJ
Oh no how will the movie recover

>>85587688
When you put it like that it actually makes a lot of sense, I know exactly the kind of person you're talking about.

>>85587719
>implying marvel studios gives a shit about costumes
Look at Guardians of the Galaxy.

>>85587735
True, but at least those films were trainwrecks that at least got the characters right. This film looks like a trainwreck with no redeeming qualities whatsoever.

Why don't they just dye her hair? It wouldn't even look bad on her.

>>85587071
>zero?
>i'm demanding marvel sends me some of the faith i previously had in them back to me.

I dont know how to feel about this, ive liked what the MCU have been doing but as a spider-fag im very ehhh about this also peoples reactions on Twitter is apuling https://twitter.com/search?q=%22Mary%20Jane%22&src=tren

>>85587719
>Well it's pretty much Guaranteed to not suck since Marvel Studios is involved.
Thor 1 & 2. Iron-man 2.

>>85587803
None of the guardians were particularly Iconic.

When people think comic book red heads 2 come to mind for most people. Jean and MJ.

If they reboot Xmen with an Asian Jean I'd still be mad.

They could have just called her something else. Hell make her Gwen, fake blonde hair on a darker skin chick looks more appealing than fake red hair (if they even bother with that).

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>Marvel cares more about pandering than source material

how novel

>>85587820
>judging the movie as a whole and labeling it a trainwreck before its released, and fucking going as far as to praise the ASM franchise in spite of it because of some casting decisions
Shit, it even hasn't finished filming, not even one trailer out. I understand you're mad because "not muh redhead", but you're being unreasonably retarded. Don't bother replying to me anymore.

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Please stop anon

>>85587867
I got no problem with the casting but I have been getting skeptical of tweets like those.

>>85587891
I'm talking about in the eyes of the majority. I personally think Thor 1 was worse than Green Lantern and on par with Jonah Hex, that doesn't change the fact that most people feel that Thor was great movie.

>>85587779
>but I don't know it's possible someone who looks like that could have the last name Watson

A man by that name marries a non-white woman. There you go. One of my best friends growing up was named Richard Smith III and he was a chubby little Korean kid.His dad was a military officer who met his mom when he was stationed in Korea.

>>85587954
>most people feel that Thor was great movie
Is this true? I mean I actually like literally every MCU movie but the Thor movies aren't very good.

>>85587904
I guess Hawkeye, Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver and lot others aren't also iconic.
Marvel doesn't give a shit about costumes. Hollywood think they are retarded and so are the casuals who pay for this shit. Now moving into the race swap subject, if they can pander to minorities they will, it's the most popular trend in the USA after all.

>fake blonde hair on a darker skin chick
Shit nigga' it seems you don't remember Jessica "cry prettier" Alba.

>>85587982
>>85587954
It was a cute comfy movie.

>>85587982
>>85587954
Thor movies are forgettable as fuck for casuals too. It's safe to assume Thor 2 is actually a bad movie in the eyes of most people.

>>85587998
>Shit nigga' it seems you don't remember Jessica "cry prettier" Alba.

that looked good though

>Raimi spiderman had a terrible Spiderman
>Webb spiderman had a terrible peter parker
>MCU spiderman will have a terrible everyone else except aunt may

>>85588053
Not really. Dark skinned chicks with blonde hair look horrible.

>>85587998
>Shit nigga' it seems you don't remember Jessica "cry prettier" Alba.

That was the best time for /co/, /co/ was so triggered by the interview I spammed it each day just to bother /co/

>>85587846
>WHY DON'T THEY LIGHTEN HER SKIN WITH MAKEUP?

Because they don't give a shit about Spider-Man, you dumb fuck.

>>85587071
I haven't had faith in MCU since Age of Ultron. Literally killed it for me, especially since it was preceded by IM3 and Thor 2.

Everyone's been big on CW, but I honestly have no interest in watching it, even as a big Cap fan who read him since I was a kid. Nothing I heard about it makes me think anything but "commercial for new movies."

>>85588073
>dissing my spider nigga Tom
The guy isn't half bad in the role. The supporting cast looks like hot garbage though. I'm afraid this will be the movie that bursts the bubble.

>>85588073
Don't act like you know what you're talking about if you don't even know the name of the character.

>>85588093
I didn't say anything about skin. The actress has had red hair before and it looks fine on her. Why don't they just do it for the movie too?

Anyway else ever dislike Mary-janes design and feel that the swap addition of a minority cast is more realistic given that he's going to school in Queens, New York?

>>85588079
It's funny how the best part about Fantastic Four movies is the shit that's goes on behind cameras.

>that guy who said he was trank and claimed Kate Mara shat her pants

>>85587915
I'm going to keep replying to you unless you call yourself a butter-licking ice worm.

>>85588146
You know what I want?
Gwen Stacy to be black, and then all the fangirls freak out.

>>85588141
I know you didn't say anything about skin. Because you're an idiot. You didn't notice that cast a black girl as one of comics' most famous white supporting characters?

They don't give a shit. They could have cast her as a boy if they thought it would get more ticket sales. They. Do. Not. Care. What. You. Want.

Yeah I won't be seeing this.

Don't fuck with MJ.

why does Marvel hate MJ so fucking much

>>85588240
You still haven't explained anything. The red hair would work. Why not do it?

>>85588146
Yeah I feel exactly the same way. There's no white people in Queens, NYC. They should have made Pete Puerto Rican and Aunt May a Native American.

Idiot.

>>85588146
natural redheads are a more a minority than niggers are

>>85588113
wasnt dissing tom, i was saying everyone other than peter/spider was going to be hot garbage.
except aunt may. shell just be hot

>>85588273
What part of they don't care do you not understand?

They didn't even bother to make her race accurate. Why would they bother with her hair?

>>85588316
What does caring have to do with whether they give her red hair or not? I don't understand why you're bitching about something I'm not talking about

>>85588270
Mephisto's still pulling the strings.

>>85588335
Because to them her hair colour doesn't matter, just like her personality doesn't matter and her race doesn't matter.

Why would they bother giving her red hair if it's not the actress' natural colour?

>>85587071
190% rt

>>85587521
I thought he was a short curry?

>>85588372
Because it would look good. Why do you think they need to care to give her red hair? Just seems like you're letting the fact that you're upset with the casting distract from the question and I'm not sure why

>>85587779
There's no source for her being MJ

>>85587071
Watch it become the most beloved Spider-Man film of them all while you complain about it without even seen it.

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I WANT SPIDER-MAN IN THE MCU

>>85587573
>it'll flop so fucking hard
>marvel film
>with spider-man
>in 2017

I can't agine being this ads blasted over anything.

>>85588455
underrated post

>>85587071
I genuinely don't see how this is somehow doomed from the start. Literally anything would be better than the shit Somy was planning.

The only people who could be honestly upset are the faggots that wanted 3 Spider-man films and spinoffs, so that Marvel could basically run an entirely seperate cinematic universe parallel to their actual superheroes.

Here, Spidey's a regular hero, doing regular hero things. He doesn't get special treatment, but he doesn't deserve special treatment.

>>85587311
By a click bait bullshit site and by a guy known to just flat out make shit up for hits.

Literally nothing is confirmed until Marvel or Sony says so. Stop being such a gullible cunt.

I don't get it. Aren't gingers pretty much minorities that get bullied all the time? Gingers would get bullied way more than any minority at the schools I went to. Why are all redheads getting BLACKED?

>>85588073
>>85588113
Holland is a terrible Peter Parker, you homos

>All the villains are linked to Stark/The Avengers somehow

Into the fucking trash this movie goes.

>>85589928
>attending public school

>>85590135
What...?

Black Cat will be transgendered

>>85587114
I don't know about that. Spiderman would normally do great, not because MCU, but simply because it's Spiderman... Marvel's most iconic hero.

However, looking at Amazing Spiderman, I don't think it'll be so easy to achieve success with this one, as people already have set several standards they want to be met or surpassed.

Will it sell tickets? Sure it will, just as any other superhero movie these days (hell, BvS and Suicide Squad weren't particularly great, yet they did well at box office). Will it be good? I'm somehow doubting it. They're forcing the Avengers too much on everything these days, whilst Spiderman needs an introduction just on his own, no other heroes involved.

The casting looks terrible, though I doubt that will prevent many people from watching the film, but it will definitely leave a bad after-taste (it already has made a poor impression) since the character won't look and feel they way they should, all because of this forced diversity.

>>85587071
Cindy Moon is apparently in the movie, too.

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>>85591213
fucking source?

>>85591294
Tiffany Espensen has followed Dan Slott and Robbie Thompson.

Who knows...

I'm more concern about the acting and the characterization, I don't give a fuck about forced diversity or else.

MJ was a shit character on raimi's trilogy desu

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>>85587071
Is this a good replacement for the all American, strong handsome jock character, Flash Thompson?

>>85591542
>Flash Thompson now looks more like Peter Parker than Peter Parker

>>85588402
Yeah, racism will do that.

>>85587407
Parker luck bro.

>>85591542
give him a clean shave and ditch the hipster glasses, some good acting might make it work.

>>85590263
>>All the villains are linked to Stark/The Avengers somehow
What?

>>85592100
Apparently the Vulture's suit is reworked from Chitauri shit, which means that EVERYTHING IS RUINED FOREVER.

>>85589846
you realize the Wrap is a hollywood trade

>>85591844
>5'5"

>>85587688
>>85587801

I cannot wait till president trump deports those assholes

>>85592375
I can't wait until your meme candidate looses the election hard to an actual criminal.

>>85592125
God, I wish someone would just put me on ice until spider-man becomes public domain

then maybe we'd have people who aren't retards have a go with the brand

>>85591542
>the all American, strong handsome jock character, Flash Thompson

You realize his being a bully was more significant than being a jock, right? That was the point of the character. They're still keeping him a bully, which is most important. Him being a Jock in a school that focuses on tech-sciences makes no fucking sense.

>>85592125
>Apparently the Vulture's suit is reworked from Chitauri shit

Chitauri shit combined with the Falcon's wingpack, anon.

>>85592512
Ey fogedaboudid.

>>85587659
You mean the ASM with the skater-bro Peter Parker?

>>85587511

>Marvel Film
>8/10

Nigger please. The best marvel films cap at 7/10.

>>85592643
Name 1 friend he has besides Gwen. You literally cannot.

>>85592697
you forgot harry, but apart from those two you are right

>>85592438
>until spider-man becomes public domain
kek, superheroes currently owned by the big 2 will never become public domain.

>>85592766
Harry didn't come into the picture until after high school. Point is, acting like Peter skateboarding suddenly makes him this popular guy shows that you don't look beyond the surface. Besides that 1 thing that wasn't even that big a deal anyway, he's still pretty much exactly like the comics.

>>85587071
lol, if Marvel had not contractually obligated Sony to make Peter Parker white, he'd be black as well.

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>Spider-Man mask logo in the title still doesn't match the one in the movie

How much control over this movie does Sony still have?

>>85587286
> Steve gets Dead Inside Broken Girl.
> Tony gets Happy Go Lucky Kid.

Tony seems to have fared better in the protege department.

>>85592834
You realize it's most likely Disney forcing these race-swaps, right?

>he thinks school bullying is still punching each other in the face or an mma fight like first Amazing Spiderman

No thats called a lawsuit

Cant wait for Reviloi Agent Venom

Ever notice how it's the redheads characters who are all getting raceswapped?

Jimmy Olsen, Wally West, MJ Watson. It's like someone realized that ginger and nigger were anagrams, and thought the audience wouldn't know the difference.

>>85592834
Kevin Feige is behind all of this though

He probably wanted nonwhite Peter for sur

>>85592887
>ginger and nigger were anagrams
Don't spook me like that, next you'll tell me they all have skeletons hiding inside them.

>>85591542
>hand over the churro, gringo!

>ay, dios mio! es Spiderman, no bueno!

>>85592903
IF this is true, why wait to release the news, when they already announced the other raceswaps?

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>Ay, yo. Hol' up. I need some snaps of that nigga Spidamang. Nigga be crawlin' up walls an shiet, got dat gud spliff.

>>85592933
do you see this news on marvel.com dumdum

They havent released anything

I hate to pull the ONE FUCKING JOB line here but being a hot redhead is practically MJs defining trait for normies.

>>85592972
>Yo watcha waitin' for, Chinese New Year?
>Yo my ex-wife called, sez she want alimony, Parker ain't getting paid shit

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I just wanted a silly and fun Spider-Man movie.

I didn't want to watch Stark's Bitch Boy: Homecoming. I guess it can't be helped, that's all Spider-Man will ever be now. Spider-Man is finished, you should abandon all hope of this movie not being irredeemable shit.

>>85589928

>Why are all redheads getting BLACKED?

...Huh, now that I think about it, there really are a lot of ginger comic book characters that get raceswapped. Gingers really do get the short end of the stick.

>>85593099
The "secret" is not fucking up. Marvel mastered the art of competent filmography in Phase 1, and the fact that this has been enough to keep them on top for almost a decade is proof of how bad Hollywood is right now.

When changing the race of the cast is considered the most radical shift in your film series since its inception, you aren't just settling for mediocrity, you've made a bed in it.

In short: Blame DC and Sony for fucking up so bad, and blame yourselves for caring less about artistic freedom than protecting your nostalgia feels. This is the world you allowed to exist.

>>85592854
>How much control over this movie does Sony still have?
Officially Sony has veto power, but they have voluntarily surrendered that right to Marvel for the production of Homecoming. Basically, they are telling Marvel they get to do anything they want for one movie, and the box office would determine if this works out long term or not.

>>85587071
This. Let's see how much this film tanks.

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Why do you guys assume it's Mary Jane Watson?

What if it's Mary Jane Walton? Or Mary Jane Jetson?

>>85593763
Real question: why the fuck would this film tank? Ghostbusters was a mediocre chick flic stamping on the ashes of an established franchise coming for nostalgia whores 5-10 years too late, all between a clusterfuck storm of Internet shitflinging.

There's nothing we know about this film that suggests it'll be anything but another mediocre MCU entry that will make serious money for not being a DC film.

>>85592125
>Toomes's suit is made from scavenged Chitauri and Falcon technology
>"YOU'RE A VULTURE ADRIAN!"
!0 bucks it's gonna be some shit like that

>>85587311
Its Liz Allan you bellend.

Not official from Marvel. She's not mary jane. The sequel will introduce mary jane the first natural redhead cast. marvel always cast the right
People for the big roles mary jane will not be black

>>85587071
>I have literally 0 faith in this film.
That's because Faith belongs to Valiant.

>>85587165
This is why we will keep having capeshit movies for the next decade

>>85593477
Miscating is fucking up too

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>>85587245
No source. People running wild with rumors

>>85587071
Are we going to find out months or years down the line that Sony had WAY more say over writing, casting, and directing then they ever should have?

>>85587163
No anon.

>>85587957
Thank you. Holy shit. What kind of an idiot thinks someone can't have any last name based on their parents. Zendaya even has a white parent. She's biracial. Obviously.