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For a change, let's list the positives of diversifying

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For a change, let's list the positives of diversifying comic characters.
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>>85540783
If it is a legacy character it adds to the hero's family.
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Why is Spider Woman there?
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>>85540783
Am I the only one who wants to fug Miles?
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>>85540783
Why should we when the only positive thing you've listed in that picture is Miles, and to a lesser extent Laura who was doing just fine without the name change.
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Captain Falcon got Sam off the edge of backburner/b-list/forgotten. His book is pretty good. I still think he should lose the shield and upgrade his wings with projectiles and white stripes.
>>85540920
If his bed game is anything like his personality or stories that is the most uneventful lay anyone has ever had.
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>>85540863
Lesbianed, obviously.
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>>85540863
Because /co/ thinks that a pregnant woman existing is political.
But the vilification of the female reproductive system somehow isn't.
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>>85541017
Fuck off, you meme-moron.
Come back when you have more to contribute than a shitpost.
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>>85541266
>anything that doesn't agree with me is a shitpost
Much easier than going through them one by one.

>Hawkeye
Closest thing to a decent legacy, clusterfucked by no one being able to decide what to do with either of them other than "they're both idiots"

>Sniktbubette
Trashed all previous characterization of Laura, went full Bendis

>Captain Falcon
Stopped being his own hero and Cap's partner, will now be known as black Cap

>Miles
Literally the exact same stories as Ultimate Pete except his skin is darker

>Spider-Woman
I don't understand why this is being claimed as diversity. Because she's a mother now?

>Whor
Everyone's on stupid pills - the book
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>>85541203

I haven't kept tabs on marvel for like 6 years. Are these two actually gay/a couple? I see them paired but it's always fan stuff.
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>>85541410
but you hate women and live with your parents and go on pol
i dont like you leave please
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>>85541543
It's a shop
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Isn't Carol the least Diverse Captain Marvel
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>>85541674
>getting so butthurt you actually report someone
wew lad
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>>85540783
Best thing about diversifying characters: /co/ gets more butthurt than Kyle Rayner after a night with Bueno
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>>85541751
Carol's not in the picture, and there's been ~four straight white guys who have been Captain Marvel. Also >>85541203
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>>85540783

It saves me money.
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>>85541789
>Wanting a thread to not be trolled to death so much that you report rule violations. As you are obligated to do in some instances.

Wooowooohoo, "lad".
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Ms Marvel was a good book and made use of the diversity within the story rather than just tacking it on for brownie points.
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>>85541841
Phylla Vell was a dude?
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>>85541841
>four straight white guys
>pink skinned Kree
>white
They're literally the niggers of the Kree man, the fuck you going on about?
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3 of these are a good idea
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>>85541910
Can we even count aliens as white
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thor has some great art
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>>85540783
I like that Logan took a break for a while.
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>>85541947
No. In fact, Carol is the first white Captain Marvel. Mar-Vell and Noh-Varr were Kree, Genis and Phyla were Kree/Eternal hybrids, Hulkling is a Kree/Skrull hybrid, Khn'nr was a Skrull, and Monica is black
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>>85540783
People who don't tead comics won't complain on the internet
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>>85541947
Why not?
Superman's recognized as a white male rolemodel. Nobody questions his race because he's an alien, or his gender for that matter. The standard of race is and always has been the perception of the observer because racial definitions have always been subjective.
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>>85541841
Four straight white guys? Where are you getting these numbers? There was the lesbian daughter of the real captain, and her blue brother, then Monica (who did a shit ton better job of it than Carol has so far) and then Noh-var.

So two white guys, Mar-vell, and Noh-var.
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So a few years from now will this be known as the era of diversification throat shoving or will it just be the start?
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>>85541674
Go back to fucking tumblr if you get triggered so easily
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>>85541980
He's trapped in a living death of solidified molten adamantium.
It's not a tropical vacation.

His two replacements aren't doing half bad though.
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>>85540783
Positives?
All the money saved since dropping this shit.
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>>85541882
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>>85541218
>pregnant women
>fighting crime
>while pregnant

Is it cheaper than an abortion?
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>>85541203
Wow... I really want this to be canon as fuck. I want Carol to come home to Jess and their kid, talking about their day. I want them to act like a normal couple, worrying about their family rather than doing the Bendis thing of talking about how they are diverse.

This would be the kind of representation that I would fucking love. When the protagonists of these books are people, not soapboxs.
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>>85540783
Preggo is hot as fuck.,
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>>85542605
It helps that their past few romances have been awful disasters. Actually, wasn't that part of the rationale for Iceman?
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>>85540783
the only bad ones are Captain Falcoln and Miles
add to good list, Gwepool, Sam Alexander, Kamala, New Mutants, Night Thrasher, kidclops
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Anyone have that one trippy splash page from Spiderwoman? she had a great artist, dude who did Axis: Hobgoblin
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>>85542890
Yep. But difference is there is enough ambiguity to their relationship that if it became canon no one care. With Bobby, it was clear that he was straight, he was just not mature enough to continue a relationship.
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>>85541829
Like that's an acomplishment. All you need is professor X's wheelchair and a can of orange spraypaint.
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In theory nothing is wrong with making more diverse heroes. Some of the examples shown in the OP are pretty interesting as concepts.

It's in the execution where it tends to fall apart with shit characterisations and bad writing.

Examples that in my opinion pulled it off well: Ms Marvel, Totally Awesome Hulk and All New Ghostrider.
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>>85543314
>and a can of orange spraypaint
IT'S GOLDEN!
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>>85542041
So why do we need Cyborg on the League over Martian Manhunter?
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>>85542398

She basically stopped fighting when she was pregnant.
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>>85541410
I agree with you on most of these but:
>Captain Falcon
Is very much his own Cap, and between the fact that him being Cap's legacy makes sense, and the fact that he's mostly been handled by Remender and Spencer, I'm pretty down with him.
>Miles
This was a problem when he was in the Ultimate-verse, but is nice now, since there's so much nostalgia for teen Pete, for whatever reason, and now we can have the best of both worlds. He just needs to get out of Bendis' chubby grasp.
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>>85540783
Most of those should not count as diversity. Most of those are the same stories with a minority character inserted.

Books like Wednesday comics, Silver age series, Kamandi challenge, Dial H, War comics, Vision are actually diverse in terms of storytelling.
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>>85544556
>Books like Wednesday comics, Silver age series, Kamandi challenge, Dial H, War comics, Vision are actually diverse in terms of storytelling.
What else all these comics have/will have in common?
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>>85540783
> let's list the positive examples
> thread is filled with shitposting about the negative examples in OP
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>>85540783
I get more people to do accurate cosplays as
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Kenan
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>>85540783
I think Kate Bishop is an interesting character. Also, as weird as it sounds, I appreciate the fact that Sam Wilson Cap's comics are overtly political. I'd rather have them be unabashed about it then have them skirt around the issue and tell everyone their message was up to the reader's interpretation.
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>>85541410
>I don't understand why this is being claimed as diversity. Because she's a mother now?

Single mom virtue signaling
Single moms are literally criminal factories
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>>85544597
Did you honestly expect any thing else?
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>>85543485
Because MM is fucking green and a shapeshifter, no one thinks he is what he's disguised as unless they don't know it's him. Hell, his name literally reminds you he's a fucking green monster under whatever human disguise he has at the moment.
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>>85544595
Most are by DC?
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>>85543104
>Sam Alexander
Just as bad as Miles, fuck off.
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>>85543104
>Sam Alexander,
He's shit though
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If a comic book writer is feeling lazy (s)he can just palette swap an existing hero & not have to go through the hassle of actually creating an interesting fleshed out hero.
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>>85544767
Nah, they sell belofe 9k.
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The fact they're exposing Marvel's outrage marketing tactic clear enough that even an idiot can potentially see it. Assuming comics don't somehow end up suffering another crash, we're right around the corner from Marvel getting good again and moving away from this trash they started in the 2000s, right?
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>>85543584
So then why did she have her own book? I never bothered reading it because I was thrilled about a crime fighting pregnant woman, but is it just about "muh labor pains" or what?
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>>85543816
>so much nostalgia for teen Pete
There is a book out, right now, that goes back to Pete's high school days. Miles is nearly pointless in 616.
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>>85548289
She gets caught up in a hostage situation at her pseudowife's space hospital's maternity ward and has to go Die Hard on a lot of Skrulls. She gives birth at the end of that arc.
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>>85541410
I think its kind of fucked up that she got a sperm donor to become pregnant because "she felt like it" because her writer decided he wanted to write a pregnant lady.
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>>85543485
because his "cannon persona" isnt a black guy

he wasnt raised on earth as a black guy, or live on earth as only a black guy
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>>85541620
>>85548392
>>85548456
I feel like at some point the pitch must have been Carol & Jess get married and decide to start a family.
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>>85541599
>le/pol/boogeyman
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>>85540783
The way Marvel is doing it by replacing every male character with a female minority? Hmmm... I guess it's rekindled my love with DC just in time for Rebirth and now I'm going back and discovering the stuff that was not shit about ñu52
The way DC is doing it doesnt need to be listed because they do it right by addig new characters to fit the niche.
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>>85548778
The fuck is going on in that first panel?
The fuck is going on with Carol's face?
Are they gay now?
Did we really need the "ice cream" cliche?
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>be woman of colour
>just want to read comics
>marvel shitting on everything I liked and telling me they are doing it for me

T-thanks? The only comic I still read is Moon Knight.
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>>85540783
>let's list the positives of diversifying comic characters

So why is Whor there?
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>>85549526
DC increases their miniority/woman count by actually adding new super hero personas as opposed to slapping a tried and true mantle onto an asian trans teenager.
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>>85540783
>Miles

>Fem Thor.

Shit list. Keep Fem Hawkeye, X-23, and Cap Falcon even though he was better off as Falcon the boon was still decent.
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>>85549802
Book*
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>>85541004
>Miles

>Positive.

I literally can't name a more bland character at Marvel than him.
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>>85540783
Great diversity list?

>Blade
>Miguel O' Hara
>Prowler
>Carol pre-KSD
>Luke Cage pre-Bendis
>Shang-Chi
>Songbird
>Tigra
>Black Panther
>Nu Ms. Marvel
Ecto. Ect.
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>>85548778
Reminder that gay ships should never happen unless you want cancer. Knowing Marvel, they're going to do it anyways and fuck it up just to get outrage bucks from everyone including those who support it. Assuming some suit doesn't shoot it down for potentially dooming Carol's MCU counterpart in some territories
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