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What do you consider the cutoff date between "Classic/Retro" and "Modern" cartoons?
>earlier

>1997
South Park, Angry Beavers, Johnny Bravo
>1998
Antz, CatDog, Powerpuff Girls
>1999
The Iron Giant, Family Guy, SpongeBob SquarePants
>2000
As Told By Ginger, Emperor's New Groove, Dora the Explorer (not a big year, huh)
>2001
Fairly Odd Parents, Shrek, Jimmy Neutron
>2002
Kim Possible, Codename KND, Lilo & Stitch
>2003
Billy and Mandy, Finding Nemo, Teenage Robot
>2004
The Incredibles, Danny Phantom, SpongeBob Movie
>2005
Madagascar, Camp Lazlo, Avatar:TLA
>2006
Cars, Class of 3000, Open Season
>2007
Ratatouille, Phineas and Ferb, God descended upon us in the form of Bee Movie
>later
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Forgot to include The Simpsons Movie as part of 2007, but that's excusable, considering the masterpiece that is Bee Movie.
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Interesting topic, have a bump.
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Like automobile models, I'd say it's around 15 years before whatever the current date is.
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Personally, I like to use 9/11 as a cutoff point. Culture just took a hiatus after it. Maybe 2002, since there was still stuff in the pipe.
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>>85488064
I'd say 2000 is a nice cut off date and in a few years, you bump it up to probably 2007 or so.
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>>85488064
Well, for me I have four rather nebulous eras:
>Modern
2001-present

>Classic
is basically 1990-2000, this was the period I grew up watching TV and cartoons, and the final year was when things seemed to slowly go on the downslide.

>Retro
is 1960's-1989, a pretty long period but it contains a lot of the kitschy but charming things like Scooby Doo and the original transformers.

>Golden Age
The 1930's-1959, this is was when animation seemed to be picked it's pace and everything fell into place, giants walked the earth.
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>>85488064
1998, probably because all of your examples are dead now and have been for years. South Park is an outlier like Simpsons is - seasons 1-3 of South Park are basically a different show.
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>>85488064
2000 onwards is modern.

2006 onwards is just utter shit in every way
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1989-1990. Roger Rabbit, Little Mermaid, Liquid Television, first Nicktoons, Batman and Tiny Toons usher in the modern age after the dead zone of 70s and 80s cartoons. There hasn't been a hard break in animation to create a new age since then. CN Real and endless Spongebob reruns came close, but not close enough.
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I just realized how fucking shit 2006 was for animation
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The moment the majority of toons became computer animated is the moment between "classic" and "modern"
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>>85488064
>South Park
Like with the Simpsons, I consider anything after season 9 (2005) to be where it all started to go wrong. Though the topical episodes have been good in their own right, they're kind of a far cry from the timelessness the series once had
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