So Punisher is a guy who could easily sub in as a villain for many other heroes (and in fact from time to time does so) but he's still fairly easy to root for as a good---ish guy because everyone he kills is either trying to actively kill him or is a serial rapist/murderer/pedophile/all of the above.
My question is has Punisher ever fucked up? Has he ever accidentally killed someone innocent, or even someone who may have been a criminal but not necessarily deserved to die? How did/would he react? How would other heroes react?
Not trying to make some kind of bash the punisher thread here by the way, I'm just genuinely curious as someone who hasn't read a whole shitload of him.
Most likely.
>Criminals
>not deserving to die
>>85405349
Frank's killed a heck of a lot of people, so there's a pretty good chance at least one of them was an undercover cop or rookie mobster who still could've turned over a new leaf. I think he just kinda blocks out any thoughts that he might've done that, but it probably still bothers him.
>>85405487
Pretty sure he was under mind control there.
In the runaways Frank claims that he has killed kids before
There was a Daredevil Vs. Punisher story when he lost his shit (because The Jackal was involved) and accidentally shot a bystander.
He broke into the hospital to apologize and visit him even though he knew the police would be waiting for him.
The guy ended up surviving and Frank got away.
But he was genuinely sorrowful.
>>85405653
Whedon.
>>85405630
>>85405487
yup. drugged.
>>85405539
going into the life and living it arent the same
He killed Goldbug and Plunderer who were basically just thieves.
>>85405539
Dat edge
>>85407084
Awful bait, trying too hard.
>>85407084
>all criminals everywhere deserve to die
>mature
you just seem like someone who's anally devastated because he was mugged
>>85407159
You say that, and yet you still replied to him.
>>85405653
In Vietnam, he probably did
...and the thread has reached a new low
Back on topic
>>85405349
Ghosts of Innocents
Countdown
Girls in White Dresses
Daredevil vs. Punisher: Means and Ends
The Punisher War Journal #56
>>85407322
This Punisher doesn't seem very Frank like
>>85408219
Frank acts that way around Cap, he's a massive fanboy. Cap brings out some of the last traces of humanity left in him.
>>85408407
Maybe its just me, but that doesn't seem to fit more recent interpretations of Frank.
Frank isn't motivated in the same way Cap is, in fact their ideologies clash.
>>85407322
>"Oh geez, he's bleeding out. I didn't mean to , oh!"
>>85408219
>>85408706
Frank's REALLY cautious, to the point where he even plans ahead in order to make sure no innocents get hurt while he's Franking. In his eyes, accidentally killing an innocent would be the absolute worst thing that he could possibly do. That being said it actually kinda makes sense that he'd totally drop his spaghetti when something finally goes wrong.
>>85408219
It's Ultimate Punisher.
>>85406983
>>85407168
Bleeding hearts. Never been mugged myself, but muggers are the type of criminal for whom it'd be amusing if they got their heads blown off by their victims, or, really, by anyone. Don't dish it out if you can't take it in.