Wait, so if Wan wants to do a lovecraftian style, why'd

>>85388946
Manta and Orm are the only Aquaman villains worth anything

>>85389056
I hate to admit it but it's basically true.

Dude needs some great new villains.

Anyway, I'm going to go ahead and guess: we're getting the Trench, plus Black Manta, with neither having much to do with one another. Manta will be the more personal conflict, the Trench, the bigger threat overall.

>>85388946
Because the greatest monster is MAN.

Is Wan doing this or MK first?

>>85388946
Manta will summon chthulu

>>85389388
This. Mk is after

I got more worries for MK really

>>85389686
I always thought that would be a good interpretation for Manta. An old god using someone who died due to Aquaman's negligence/interference using his body to enact spite. An Elder God of spite.

>>85389707
Alright thanks

I always saw Manta's costume as similar to Batman's: When you get a clear look at it it's pretty goofy but in action it's terrifying.

>>85388946
Because H.P.Lovecrat was a Racist who thought the most terrifying thing on the planet was Black People.

This is assuming the DCEU stays alive long enough for us to see him
>>85390364
Mantas suit is a technical marvel even by DC universe standards. Hell Atomica couldnt shrink down small enough to penetrate it

>>85389743
You can fuck RIGHT off.

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>>85388946
Because Black Manta would be the retard that unleashed Cthulhu unto the world.

>>85389056
>>85389343
Siren is pretty cool.

>>85391009
She could be

But she seems to be in Manta's camp where she's entertaining but she's an incredibly shallow character
Having one villain like that is fine but when 2/3 of them are, then you got a problem
Imagine half of Batman's villains like the Joker where they're shallow like him, that would be shit

I mean Black Manta is basically Ahab and Aquaman is his White Whale. Obsession can definitely play into Lovecraftian shit

>>85391105
Eh, who honestly gives a shit as long as they are entertaining in some way and not too similar to one another. It's definitely better than only having 2 good villains.

>>85391009
What does Siren appear in?

>>85391205
Not very many good things

>>85388946
Because he's black.

>Black Manta's treasure hunting led him to discover the Trench or some Lovecraftian horror
>He releases it purely to attack Atlantis or something Aquaman loves (maybe Amnesty Bay) while he fights Aquaman head-on


It's a tad similar to Lex's Doomsday plan, but it'd fit Manta better. Would you guys like this?

>>85389686
>Manta will summon chthulu

I think it will be something along this. I hope it is Manta trying to summon a dead Atlantean god just because he fucking hates Aquaman so much.

The levels of spite in this movie need to be off the chart.

What origin will they use for Manta: raped by pirates as a kid while Aquaman played with dolphins nearby and did nothing, or locked in an asylum because of autism? Both might be hard sells

>>85392633
Johns' father thing

>>85390378
There's literally nothing wrong with Lovecraft being racist. If he wasn't who he was, the word "eldritch" wouldn't exist.

>>85390378
You know we're talking about an american man in the late 1800s and early 1900s, right?
Racism was just the norm. Always keep historical and cultural context in mind.
Now, I'm not defending it, but he wasn't racist for his time. He was normal, I guess. Hell, you could say Dickens was racist too, by today's standards

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>>85389056

>>85394343
Wasn't he actually far, far more racist than most people were, even back then?

I mean, considering some of his writing...

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>>85394780
don't really know...
Honestly I haven't read that much of him yet, but the racist points I remember are all related to sailors and foreign men, and I think it was to make a point about the exoticism of the setting...
Then again, there's that cat's name...

>>85394343
racism is still racism regardless of history, or did you forget guys like fredrick douglass existed then?

>>85394343
Lovecraft was a racist, but that was arguably the least of his personal problems. There's no need to demonize him for it when you consider who he was born into and what he created.

>>85394869
He literally wrote a shitty poem called, "On the Creation of Niggers."

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/On_the_Creation_of_Niggers

That is some edgy 4chan bullshit.

>>85394905
James Madison and Thomas Jefferson were racist. Guess we should just burn the constitution.

Black Manta was fucking awesome and genuinely terrifying in the Flashpoint Paradox movie

>>85389056
The Eel became awesome once he switched over to Aquaman instead of Batman.

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>>85394986
HOLY SHIT I NEVER NEW ABOUT THAT
>pic related is mfw dat ending

>>85390930
His hateboner for Aquaman is enough to do something that retarded

>>85392406
I liked the suggestion that Manta will get morphed into his monster form, but it'll be all Lovecraftian and shit.

>>85394986
Funniest shit I read in the last couple of months.

Hey /co/, drawfag here, I've been meaning to do some Black Manta fan/concept art myself since I've recently found myself loving his character after reading a lot of his appearances (both old and new). So yeah this news surprised me (and worried me) but then hey Aquaman won't come out until 2018, so I thought why not take a shot at making some concept art then?

I would honestly be pissed if they somehow fucked up Manta's unique design so I'm curious to try my hand at coming up with various designs for the film version as "suggestions" or ideas if you will. I want to try and keep his design unique to his own without aping MCU's tacticool style so that his look still actually feels like it's Manta and not some random mook.

Should I go for it /co/ or is it useless and too much trouble?

>>85394986
Based Lovecraft

>>85395202
black dive suit armor
ant helmet

wew

>>85395075
>>85395154
Edgy.

>>85394780
I don't think has was more or less racist than it was common in the early 20th century. Also, it has to be noted that Lovecraft wasn't a white supremacist. He harbored prejudice against certain white nationalities too, like Germans and I believe also the Irish. By contrast, he didn't mind Jews and Hispanics.

>>85395202
Go for it

Though frankly, if it were up to me, I'd give him a 'tacticool' look like in the MCU. Something that were basically his Ivan Reis look but with a bit of added gear like a Navy SEAL.

>>85388946
Because "lovecraftian" is a hacky setting and tone, much like steampunk.

>>85395281
oh, come the fuck on, man.
It's funny in a ridiculous way. I never expected anyone to write this seriously. I'm not actually agreeing with it.

for fuck's sake...

>>85395314
>Something that were basically his Ivan Reis look but with a bit of added gear like a Navy SEAL.
I actually have a couple of MCU concept art books. I think I'm capable enough to replicate the sort of realistic style these films tend to gravitate to (as you mentioned, like Ivan Reis) while keeping Manta's classic helmet and making it look as menacing as his Brightest Day/New 52 appearances.

I'll be coming up with different designs anyway (e.g. classic-inspired, Young Justice-inspired, etc.) so I'll keep your suggestion in mind.

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>>85394343
>>85390378

Lovecraft was a product of his environment. Both of his parents ultimately went insane and died in asylums/hospitals, and his grandfather (the man that wholeheartedly encouraged his love of reading and may have provoked Lovecraft getting interested in such weird tales to begin with) died when he was in his early teens. He was frequently ill, which prevented him from proper socialization through schooling, and suffered chronic sleep paralysis. His grandfather's estate was mishandled and they were left in a far poorer situation. He eventually suffered a nervous breakdown and never graduated high school.

Ultimately, everything added up in just the right way to create an individual who was profoundly isolated from humanity in more ways than one. Now add in preexisting views on race that would have been prevalent at the time and compound them with the fear of the "other" that he had cultivated over the years and you have someone who is, yes, going to be quite racist even for the time in which he lived.

While it is important to understand the context in which he wrote his stories, burying any discussion on his works due to his racism is just tiresome, because everyone who knows anything about Lovecraft will have already heard it all before.

The far more interesting thing about Lovecraft is his letter writing. The man wrote so many letters over the course of his life that entire volumes have been put together collecting them all. He's written letters longer than most of his stories in sheer page and word count. He interacted with the wider world through the written word and cultivated a large group of followers that would ensure that the man who never received any acclaim in life would be remembered long after his agonizing death by intestinal cancer, helping lay the foundation for horror in the 20th century.

If 4chan had existed back in the day, I have no doubt that he would have been an absolutely glorious shitposter.

>>85395368
Alright, fine.

>>85395421
Yeah, I'd like to see my idea if that were fine?

Otherwise, just do what you want since you want to do more than one design.

Should I go ahead and post some Manta designs?

>>85389707

What is MK?

>>85395478
Supposedly, Wan is directing a Mortal Kombat reboot as well. A movie one.

>>85392262

Yes.

As many people have said: Black Manta summoning a lovecraftian God just to fuck with Aquaman sounds fucking spectacular!

>>85395474
When I post them up, I'm sure it'll be obvious enough where to find them since Manta isn't exactly the most popular villain out there anyway.

>Should I go ahead and post some Manta designs?
Sure, I mean why not?

>>85388946
That Black Manta can wreck my ass any day.

>>85395202

Go for it.

Even if it doesn't end up being used it is always cool to see more Black Manta stuff because he does have a fucking glorious design.

>>85388946
Because to Lovecraft, humans can be just as horrific as the Elder Gods.

Specifically the jews, the blacks, the inbreds, the rurals, and the sodomites.

Black Manta could be all of those combined in this iteration.

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>>85395559
Ah fuck it. I'll start with my favorite image of my favorite 'canon' design.

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>>85395626
Better look.

>>85395444

Also, if you look at some of the stuff him and the guy who created Conan (his name is alluding me right now) were buddies and they actually had a shared universe in the draft of their stuff.

When I found that it it's always been my head canon that the reason Cthulu is "dead" is because Conan slew him and threw his body into the ocean.

But yeah, Lovecraft was a mad racist even for his time. He talks about how seeing black people on the subway makes him want to vomit.

>>85395444
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRqC9GzodtI

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>>85395640
I really like the added detail here.

>>85388946
Do I see a penis right there?

>>85395683

I wasn't making excuses, anon. I'm just saying it's gotten old, and if we're going to talk about the context of his works, we might as well talk about the entire context instead of just saying he was racist in a vacuum.

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>>85395702
I don't like this one much, honestly.

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>>85395729

>>85395729

Yeah, that's a lame design in my opinion.

Keep the helmet rounded so it has weird connotations of an old-school divers helmet.

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>>85395444
Saved.

Capped. Thanks, anon.

>>85395444
>If 4chan had existed back in the day, I have no doubt that he would have been an absolutely glorious shitposter.
This, absolutely.

>>85395626
>>85395640
>>85395702
>water-themed hero has one of the most SHALLOW archenemies of all time

Brilliant!

>>85394986
poetry

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>>85395591
>Even if it doesn't end up being used it is always cool to see more Black Manta stuff because he does have a fucking glorious design.
This is true. Black Manta simply needs more love and honestly I'd just be happy to contribute more art showcasing his awesome design (both in fan art or concept art form).

>>85395626
>>85395640
Love those ones. Personally this cover from Brightest Day is still one of my favorites.

>>85388946
Because "Lovecraftian" stopped meaning something a long time ago.
>>85389056
I'm sure you've got an informed opinion.

>>85395673
>the guy who created Conan (his name is alluding me right now)
Robert E Howard. AFAIK, Lovecraft and him never met in person, but they wrote each other a lot. HP was quite distraught when he learned that Howard had committed suicide.

>>85388946
Black Manta could serve as a pretty good "face" human villain to some kind of twisting elder thing below the sea, given his whole motive is twisted, mad obsession that frequently doesn't have an actual cause.

I remember someone screen capped a really good piece of writefaggotry depicting Manta as becoming completely inhuman and hungry for revenge against the sea after being trapped in an air pocket aboard a sunk ship, driven mad by the steady sound of mindless fish consuming the bodies of his friends and family. I seem to have lost it or forgot to save it though. Anyone know what I'm talking about?

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Black Manta is one of the best villain designs in comics, period.

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>>85395861

I've got you famalama.

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I really like this one actually.

>>85395767
I really think all three of those look really cool, actually.

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Drawfag again >>85395812, it's funny how I actually first discovered Black Manta through Alex Ross's art from way back (still love it to this day).

It was only after I saw him in Brightest Day that I backtracked and finally read up on him.

>>85394343
No, Lovecraft was racist even for his time; some of his peers/readers found a lot of what he wrote to be too far. Keep in mind, as well, not all of his ethnic discrimination was anti-black.

>>85395786
Though one thing that I will say about this design is that I really do wish the helmet were black like the rest of his suit.

>>85395937
Some gunmetal silver can easily fix that. That way, it still looks dark while maintaining that metallic look on his helmet to keep that "deep sea diver" motif he has going.

>>85389343
I like the trench but they were overused last run should have stuck to there single arc.

>>85395863
Agreed. Manta just looks absolutely terrifying and menacing. His pitch-black form and big, red eyes remind me of creatures like the Mothman.

>>85395995
Wait fuck i just realised we are talking about the movie.
Yeah im fine with the trench being in that.

>>85395882
Yes, this is exactly what I was thinking of, thank you!

This is a perfect summary of Manta and how he should be written. Aquaman was born from the sea and became part of the human world through love for his lighthouse father and his sense of justice, while Manta is a surface human twisted by hate who drowned himself in the sea and became as mindlessly and mercilessly destructive as a hungry shark or a crashing tidal wave. I love it.

>>85395863
I think one of the best things about manta is you can change his reason for hating aquaman to get a new angle on a story without interfering with the core of the character.

>>85395996
>red eyes remind me of creatures like the Mothman
I can see that. Funnily enough, he reminds me of pulpy sci-fi designs of old. Stuff like War of the Worlds or The Day the Earth Stood Still come into mind.

>>85388946
What's stopping Aquaman's crazy ass psycho wife from just straight up killing Manta since she has none of her husband's all ready meager restraints?

>>85396059
Those are good and fitting associations too. His suit might as well be a Martian's armor from a 50's or 60's sci-fi story.

>>85396059

>Stuff like War of the Worlds or The Day the Earth Stood Still come into mind.

Definitely. There's something very alien about his helmet. I could very easily see something similar being used by a bunch of Martian invaders or something.

And yet, there's just something enduring about it. It's a concept that stands the test of time and requires only small revisions here and there to really mesh well with the constantly evolving visuals of modern comics.

>>85395986
I like the idea of that. Though I'd still prefer gunmetal black.

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>>85396084

>Mera, you have to rape the Manta.

>>85388946
i dont see how that would change anything?

i think when you all hear lovecraftian you are getting the wrong idea of it all

>>85390378
For some reason this reminds me of the time manta pretended to be a black supremist.

>>85396059
>>85396084
I think it's the inhuman aspect of it all. Unlike say, Doctor Doom's mask or Darth Vader's helmet, it's not shaped like a human head, and even if you know there's a perfectly biologically normal man underneath it the outer armor still presents the image of an otherworldly, dark predator, striking from the shadows of the deep.

>>85396084
Manta is surprisingly hard to kill.

That suit is some real bullshit, dude. It gives him strength on par with Aquaman, seems to be mostly extremely durable, except for the helmet, has all sorts of defenses, is airtight, and then there's the laser eye beams.

>>85396057
This. His core personality is great, if anything you just have to be able to write his backstory at a good angle to make him work. I just hope they don't go overboard with Johns's "muh dad and muh revenge" idea because while he writes Manta's personality fine, I never liked that idea as Manta's definitive backstory.

>>85395882
Fuck, this just makes me want to make a fan comic centering on him. Less of a direct adaptation of this idea and more like inspired from it.

>>85396215
>I just hope they don't go overboard with Johns's "muh dad and muh revenge" idea because while he writes Manta's personality fine, I never liked that idea as Manta's definitive backstory.
Alright, /co/.

If you HAD to rewrite, Manta's origin, how would you go about it?

>>85396057

I want there to be a Black Manta Anthology where it's just a collection of stories from different comic book writers / artists, each one giving their own reason why Black Manta hates Aquaman and having a short story related to it.

And then at the end suggest that none of them were right, keeping the mystery alive.

>>85396188
>That suit is some real bullshit, dude. It gives him strength on par with Aquaman, seems to be mostly extremely durable, except for the helmet, has all sorts of defenses, is airtight, and then there's the laser eye beams.

Exactly. It's why I find it ridiculous when you have moments where he gets nerfed, specifically one of his encounters with Deathstroke. Slade is great and all, but this is fucking Black Manta we're talking about. He goes toe to toe with Aquaman on a regular basis despite being a prep-type villain. He's literally Aquaman's archnemesis, which is why I find it ridiculous that he was even put in Suicide Squad for some period of time.

>>85396249
What >>85395882
said

>>85396249

Kidnapped by dolphins as a kid and taken to their rape cave.

>>85396249
Arthur asks.

Black Manta answers:

"To put it simply, your 'Highness.' You Sea, I Conquer."

>>85396275
but that's Aquaman's origin

>>85396267
Eh, Slade's richer so he could probably afford better suits. Manta is also merely human so Deathstroke aims better, fights better, is faster, better at sneaking around and smarter.

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>>85396314

>You Sea, I Conquer.

I audibly groaned, you motherfucker. I love it.

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>>85395882
This is great.

>>85396314
Wow

>>85396352
I think during some runs, Manta was also enhanced in some manner, so he was actually superhuman himself, which I kinda prefer instead of it being just the suit.

That said, as good as Deathstroke is, Black Manta should be superior if we going by sheer power. This is a dude who's basically as strong as Aquaman, one way or another, meaning he's basically Golden Age Superman.

He should be able to wreck Deathstroke's shit, really.

>>85396427

I see Black Manta as being kind of in the same vein as the Flash Rogues, in that while they might not always be a top tier threat versus their chosen foe (Flash/Aquaman), when they go up against other people who aren't on Aquaman's or Flash's level they completely wreck house and take everyone by surprise.

>>85396465
Absolutely.

Like take Batman for one thing. Batman wank is such that a lot of people assume that Batman should be able to take on threats much more dangerous than him.

Black Manta, as well as the Flash's Rogues, should absolutely be able to fuck up Batman's shit without a doubt. It shouldn't even be a context. What the fuck is Batman going to do to Manta? Or the Flash's Rogues for that matter?

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>>85396314
>You sea, I conquer.

Listen here, bucko.
You owe me some new sides.

Always thought that this would be a neat alternate origin for Manta-

http://www.isciencetimes.com/articles/6463/20131204/3-days-underwater-man-survives-harrison-okene-video.htm

>I was there in the water in total darkness just thinking it's the end
>I kept thinking the water was going to fill up the room but it did not.... I was so hungry but mostly so, so thirsty. The salt water took the skin off my tongue.... I was very, very cold and it was black.
>I couldn't see anything, but I could perceive the dead bodies of my crew were nearby. I could smell them.
>The fish came in and began eating the bodies. I could hear the sound.
>It was horror

A young man, trapped 100 feet below the waves for three days, listening to fish eat the rest of the crew. In the pitch black of what he thinks will be his tomb, madness takes hold of his mind, and a cold hatred suffuses his being.

Throughout his rescue and the subsequent days in the decompression chamber, he is silent and unresponsive, only staring forward with a dread determination.

The boy who went beneath the surface died in that ship. Only an irrational, unassailable, bottomless hate is left- only Black Manta.

They're going to kill off Manta in the movie and you all know it.

>>85396594
see
>>85395882

>>85396594

I now realize that I was too late

>>85396427
He's really not as strong as Aquaman though.

>>85396594
https://youtu.be/dpSHpX9Gvfw?t=292

The WEIGHT of the SEA!

>>85396530
That's actually really good, anon.

>>85396594
Fuck, that's some scary shit.

>>85396636
Maybe not quite as strong, but strong, good enough of a fighter, and well-equipped enough to actually hurt Aquaman and maybe even win against him in a fight.

>>85395932
that's what HP stands for: Hateful Prejudice

that's why HP printers were so popurar back in the 90's

arso, brack manta is a boring run of the mirr virrian with only his ridicurously huge hermet setting him apart.

>>85391949
I know, it's so problematic. Thank god based Disney™ aren't so toxic, racist and trans*misogynist.

>>85396666
It's not that hard to hurt Aquaman though. He's a legitimate threat, but not because he's as strong as Aquaman. His weapons, his cunning and ruthlessness are what make him such a formidable foe.

>>85396729
>It's not that hard to hurt Aquaman though.
Nigga, Aquaman is almost as durable as Golden Age Superman. Maybe not the most durable or powerful superhero out there, but he's no slouch. And he's got a healing factor too.

I agree his intelligence and ruthlessness do help him a lot, but his suit does make him fairly powerful.

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>>85394986
That's actually pretty good.

>>85395683
Lovecraft never hurt a black person, there's nothing morally wrong with being racist in your mind if you don't do anything physical.

Go fuck yourself you piece of shit, what have you ever done in your worthless life.

>>85396754
Strength in cape characters is inconsistent as fuck. In his first story arc in the new 52 he gets hurt by an AK.

Which appearence of Black Manta did this picture come from? I like the art.

>>85395286
I mean vs writers like Hemmingway or Fitzgerald he's insanely racist

>>85396754
Manta's got laser eyes.

>>85396666
>That's actually really good, anon.
Fuck I accidentally deleted it, reposting it again:

Personally if I were to streamline his comic origin, I'd do it this way:

Maintain the abused slave backstory but remove the Aquaman parts (which were honestly dumb and made no sense in context of how old they'd be). So basically, have Manta as a slave where he'd find the view of the ocean as his only salvation through all his sea-fairing hardships, until he finally had enough of it, resulting in him freeing himself and murdering his captors.

At first, he tries to start a normal life, working odd jobs primarily through the fish market (remember he still loves the ocean), until he would grow up developing an interest in tech surrounding marine biology. His father would find him later on when he's older and would offer him a chance at finding supposed treasures hidden across the seas while using Manta's tech to their advantage. Manta reluctantly joins him and the two would go treasure hunting for some time. Throughout their journey, Manta would learn of his father's illegal dealings which in turn would lead him to discover how he was sold off to slavery in the first place. This prompts Manta to not want anything to do with his father realizing how his father had been using him all along. His father would desperately plead him to stay for one last job: supposedly a lighthouse keeper known as Arthur Curry holds a treasure that serves as the "Key to Atlantis".

>>85395683
I bet you're one of those faggots who don't believe in absolute morality, so how the fuck are you going to shitpost about how historical figures were doing morally wrong shit, when the context within which they were living didn't see it as bad?

>>85396607
Considering the major problem this film is going to have of getting actors talking underwater they would have to be fucking insane to kill off the one character who wears a great big helmet over his head

>>85397011
Already solved.
>I love the idea of underwater speaking but with a real sort of sonic, aquatic quality to it. So there's this sort of aquatic, almost sonar/whale thing. Even though it's in a human language, there's this slight sort of underlay to it, this ping to it, which I think would be interesting for us to design from a sound design perspective. Yeah, it will be fun. Also, Zack has some ideas that he'll be doing in Justice League.

>>85396854
I don't think it's official.

>>85396942

Manta swims to the Arthur's house at night only to find himself confronting Arthur Curry and his son (resulting in Arthur getting the heart attack). He returns to his father's fishing boat, angry at the notion that there was no such treasure at Arthur's house. Manta would berate his father for essentially turning him into a criminal and he decidedly goes for a swim to clear his head, just as a heavy storm was about to begin. With the storm essentially reaching its fullest, he decides to return to help his father only to discover that a mysterious young man had already killed him. The two would engage in a brutal fight, in which the young man would end up scarring Manta's face and throwing him overboard. As Manta drifts aimlessly in the sea, his father's boat is consumed in the storm. Manta would find himself drifting back to shore, saved once again by the very ocean that had been his only salvation ever since he was a slave. Conflicted over his father's death, Manta hated what his father had done to him, but his death only served to give him an empty feeling inside.

>>85397056
Over the years Manta uses his knowledge and expertise to hunt down and search for the rumored Aquaman and the lost city of Atlantis. He'd use his amassed fortune and marine tech to build a submarine and assemble a crew to lure out Aquaman. When the two finally clash in their first proper meeting, Manta realizes that Aquaman is his father's killer (in turn, Aquaman realizes that Manta caused the death of his father. Beyond this, Manta also realized that the supposed treasure nown as the "Key to Atlantis" was none other than the young Aquaman himself. The revelation would cause Manta to develop an obsession over Aquaman, not out of revenge for his father's death, but for what Aquaman insofar represented in his life.

For Manta, Aquaman was no "treasure", rather he represented an abomination that served to remove any and all mystique that the ocean held in his eyes. Since Aquaman supposedly ruled the seas, this meant that nothing about the ocean was ever Manta's to begin with all those years. The same way that Aquaman took his father like a heartless monster, Manta could only perceive this abomination as taking away everything that made the ocean so "pure" in his eyes. In this regard, if he can't purify the seas of Aquaman and his poisonous existence, then the best he could do was take everything that Aquaman loved and ruin his life in turn. If Manta can't be free to do as he wants with the ocean he had loved ever since his days as a slave, so can't Aquaman.

More or less, this basically establishes their cyclical relationship that was likened to Ahab and the White Whale/Moby Dick.

>>85396594

>A young local reporter, relatively new to the field, is eager to jump on this survivor's story, knowing it's her ticket to a job with a major paper
>She's there to interview him even before he's out of the decompression chamber, relaying her questions through the chamber's intercom and the small, rectangular window
>She tries for more than an hour to get answers, to no avail
>The young man only stares
>There's a fury in those eyes, an unnatural anger, and it strikes a primal fear in her brain
>She returns to the office shaken, figuratively empty-handed, without a word to her boss when he asks about the scoop
>She moves forward with her career, lands some major stories, and secures her dream job at the Daily Planet
>For years to come, though, Lois Lane will occasionally wake with a start, in the dead of night, the memory still sharp
>Those eyes, that stare, that hatred

>>85396942
>>85397056
>>85397096
Hope that wasn't too horribly fanfic-y /co/.

It was the best way I could mix all of Manta's origins in one coherent narrative (the slavery/abuse, his father's death, the water love/autism, his hatred for Aquaman, etc.)

>>85396249
>He and Aqua went to school together
>They bump into eachother or some other petty shit
>It escalates to the present-day feud both are involved in

>>85397121
Frankly that was way better than anything I could've come up with and I'm the one who asked the question in the first place.

>>85397136
>Zoom
>Manta
>both attempt to ruin the hero's life for petty shit

Did Johns and David/Aquaman's writer just really fuckin' love Dio from Part 1?

>>85396959
Watch it, anon! He's gonna go for his John Green bookmark next!

>>85397136

It has to go even more petty.

Don't even supply a reason. Manta just shows up one day and tries to kill Aquaman out of the blue. This continues for years, for however long it takes for one of them to die or be permanently taken out of action. When asked why he's trying to kill Aquaman, he just replies with some variation of "I fucking hate him," and he never elaborates further.

This confuses people so much that it becomes one of those "big questions". Some hero or villain finds themselves talking to one of the various near-omniscient beings scattered around the universe, and they ask what Manta's beef is, to which the reply is always the equivalent of a shrug and "I dunno, as far as I can tell, he just really fucking hates the guy"

>>85397136
I also forgot to add
>Neither remember why they started fighting

>>85397262

>Asking Manta why he hates Aquaman gets you the standard reply
>Trying to press further just makes him madder, and his answers get louder and less understandable
>Press too far, and he gets completely incoherent with rage, and storms off to try and kill Aquaman again

>>85397109
Underrated.

>>85395729
DAMN!!! That looks great!

>>85394343
He was actually much more racist than even most of his contemporaries.
Also anti-semitic while his wife was Jewish.

>>85389364

>MANta

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>>85388946
Because not enough main villains were fucked in the DCMU

>>85388946
>Wait, so if Wan wants to do a lovecraftian style

It'll have the fakest CGI sea monster since the Clash of the Titans reboot, and Angry Black Seaman.
Get over it. It was never going to be good.

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>>85395683
>anon does a well-written, in-detail posts explaining why Lovecraft isn't just his racism
>/co/cksucker replies with a stupid clip from a badly animated. poorly voiced cartoon

You numales are walking talking cancer.

Didn't Guillermo del Toro say a while back that he planned on doing an adaption of mountains of madness? How do guys think that'd turn out.

>>85395368
>https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/On_the_Creation_of_Niggers

It's actually not funny it's like a good poem for what it is but more creepy than anything else.
I'm shocked no rapper have used his poem to be honest.

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>>85395286
yeah but that's probably because they saw irish as Niggers Turned Inside Out

>>85396826
yeah whatever dude keep on defending a dead racist.

>>85394780
>Wasn't he actually far, far more racist than most people were, even back then?

Yes. He absolutely was. You're on 4chan where edgelords are gonna jump to a racists defense no matter what, particularly if it's a creator whose work they enjoy, but the reality is there's no defense for Lovecraft's incredibly outdated views when taking into account his wealth, education, environment, social standing etc.

I love his work but I have no problem admitting that an author that I love was a shitty human being.

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So this entire thread and everything anons have posted about Aquaman and Lovecraft are solely pulled from this single tweet?

Christ you anons just love setting yourself up for disappointment don't you?

>>85388946
Executive messling is my guess.

>>85400473
He said he's gonna do sea monsters and shit.

When, long ago, the gods created Earth
InJove'sfair image Man was shaped at birth.
The beasts for lesser parts were next designed;
Yet were they too remote from humankind.
To fill the gap, and join the rest to Man,
Th'Olympianhost conceiv'd a clever plan.
A beast they wrought, in semi-human figure,
Filled it with vice, and called the thing a Nigger

Dam holmes

>85394986

>>85400508
>messling

*meddling

shit

>>85396594
That's actually too perfect.

>>85396084
Mera gets angry but she's not a psychopath.

>>85400041
It's actually pretty funny.

>>85400100
>they saw irish as Niggers Turned Inside Out
kek

>>85390378
SJWs please go. The World Fantasy Award may have fallen for your lies, but we actually read.

>>85395286
Don't forget his constant fear of inbred white hillbillies.

>>85396113
That's not really much of a punishment though, thats more like a dream come true.

>>85389707
In a recent interview, Wan at least acknowledged that the plot of MK is supposed to be identical to Enter the Dragon, which that edgy fuck Tancharoen didn't get.

That movie's never actually going to be made though.

Black Manta would make a great Lovecraftian villain. He's from under the ocean, and a black man. HPL was terrified of both.

I'm thinking the whole unite the seven thing is going to come in to play with the Dead King's scepter and the rest of the atlantean weapons.

They are going to have to bring them together to fuck up Darksied. Given that Johns is involved now I feel like they'll want to inject some new 52 aquaman.

the book the vikings are burying in the justice league trailer is going to have the information necessary to retrieve said artifacts.

you heard it here first, folks.

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>>85405953