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>Wants to turn Ms.Marvel into a feminist icon >Turns her

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>Wants to turn Ms.Marvel into a feminist icon
>Turns her into a man

Literally why?
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>>85385570

I like how Captain america is in middle of a fight.

Is Carol going to take off her earrings?
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>>85385570
Having the name "Captain Marvel" turns you into a man.

It did the same to Billy Batson.
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>>85385570
While I like boyish girls, I agree that the newer Carol designs have been really lame. The one on this cover especially.
>>85385742
I like this post though.
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>>85385570
Modern Feminism is the ultimate case of Penis Envy.
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I read that 17-issue series where she became the new Captain Marvel and that was trash. How much worse is she now?
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>>85386223
You have no idea how fast I came to this thread to say this. Unless of course you arrive with similar haste, then you know exactly how fast plus a few minutes.
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I don't give a shit about any of this, is Jack Flagg dead?
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>>85385570
holy fuck capn america in the middle of it.
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>>85386273
It sucks that Larson is reading it too.
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>>85385570
>le military girl should have a military cut because I feel like it
>tits? ass? what are those?
>fuck continuity
Thanks, Bendis. Your influence knows no bounds.
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>>85386273
Significantly better. KSD's run was dogshit. The current volume is actually pretty good. One of the better books Marvel is putting out.

Too bad it's ending at issue 10 and relaunching with a new, protentially worse, creative team. But hey, that's still 10 more solid issues than I expected.
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>>85385570
It's like you just can't please feminists. They're either too sexualized or too much of bull dyke/manish. Not refering to OP, just talking about in general
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>>85386530

He survived, but is in the hospital out cold. Red Skull wasn't happy.
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>>85386223
This. Feminist love nothing more than to strip women of all things feminine.
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>>85386907
>KSD's run was dogshit.
Dex Soy's art on her first run is the best, though.
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>>85386996
>It's like
You can't. Just like the manchild fills the void in his meaningless life with overpriced funny books and waifus, the third-wave feminist fills her holes with the attention of others, acquired under a facade of caring about the wellbeing of minorities. They don't actually wish for their goals to be achieved, which is why you'll never appease them, and pandering to them is wasted effort and money.
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>>85385570
look at that chick she doesnt like dick
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>>85386273
She has a personality now, but she's being written by Bendis
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>>85385570
>Wants to turn Ms. Marvel into their premier female superhero
>Turn her into fascist thundercunt
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I bet Captain Marvel is a lesbian. So progressive.
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>>85387819
>Carol
>tits

Nice try shitlord!
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>>85385570
Wow, a real feminazi!

I'll bet Red Skull berates Sin for not living up to Carl's high standards.
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>>85385570
Marvel taught me that in order to be strong, you are not permitted to have any female traits, even if you're a girl.
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>>85385570
>normal person caught in the center of an argument between tumblr and /pol/.jpg
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>>85385742
underrated kek
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>>85386907
>another relaunch
i'm not even in the ride and i want off
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I like her hairstyle. Its pretty and unique.
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>>85385570

How did the artist get away with this?
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>>85385742
Kek
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>>85385742
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>>85388042

Pretty sure she fucks War Machine

I'm sure there's a pun somewhere in there
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>>85388042
Soon.
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>>85385570
I honestly found this odd. They're basically saying that you have to be as masculine as possible to be a badass.
She was bad ass when she was in the leotard.
She took a fucking skull into space and watched it die with a smile on her face.
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>>85388042
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>>85391758
No, that would make sense, improve both characters and their fans would go nuts for it, so Marvel will never do it.
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>>85394452
>and their fans would go nuts for it
I want some of your LSD.
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>>85385570
Men have power

So clearly, she has to become one.
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>>85388807
Someone should tell DC they've been doing it wrong with Wonder Woman this whole time. They must give her a full body suit, a buzz cut and breast reduction surgery stat
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Am I the only one who thinks the short hair looks far better with her current outfit than the long hair did?
It wouldn't work with the Ms. Marvel outfits, but I like the current one better, so...
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>>85397539
I prefer short hair over long hair on girls but this is a man's haircut. Her fave is also that of a man.
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>>85397539
No, it looks great in most artist's hands. But it's NOT MUCH CHEESECAKE CAROL so most of /co/ hates it.
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>>85397579
Post Carol-drinks-coffee-smugly.jpeg now.
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>>85397589
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>>85385570
Just to piss off a bunch of nerds. Judging by this thread, it worked
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>>85393930
This. She haven't done anything yet that measures up to absorbing a thermonuclear warhead and standing up to furious Sentry, and she was drawn by Cho then.

Fuck this dyke shit, they just whine and bicker all the time
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>>85393930
This.
Her House of M tie-in summed her pretty good.

Carol knows she's a major fuckup, has a lot of issues going around but she's still trying to be the very best cape around.
She was a recovering alcoholic with insecurity issues, but she was also a bloodthirsty motherfucker who really loved to kill aliens and smack the living lights out of people. And yet, as the ending from her House of M tie-in put it, Carol knew she had a lot of baggage and problems in her life, but she wanted to be the very best.

Now she's just a crude caricature of what feminists think is the perfect female action hero. Also, she looks like that coach from Glee.
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>>85393930
They're not saying that at all. You just want to interpret it that way.

Bias is as bias does
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>>85386730
Considering she favored a tweet of someone going "I love Captain Marvel! SHAZAM" I doubt it.
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>>85397579
that carol is cute (cute)
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>>85397579
I prefer hair with a bit more longer hair.
Also her Earth's Mightiest Heroes outfit.
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>>85385570
Dont you know anon? being a feminist means you must look like a dike
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>>85385570
This is just sad. I remember when Carol was tough but still feminine and had cute crush on Spider-man.
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>>85400576
there's a reason for that.
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>>85400577
Hmm. Remember when Sana Takeda drew her?
I wonder if she could salvage Carol's current design.
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I admit i havent read much, but everything I've ever seen her in shes a mega bitch
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>>85400620
>Imgur screenshot
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>>85400716
I wonder if they are going that route in the movies?
Obviously they will need a Civil War II in the next phases after IW to get something eciting on the table and for Marvel to make CW III in the comics.
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>>85400662
The only way to salvage her is to have Moonstone replace her again.
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>>85400828
I actually meant for Takeda to take the current design and make it actually look good. But yeah more Moonstone is fine too.
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>>85386808
>complaining because a character has no tits or ass

That's not a bad thing tho, every character has the same body type in comics. Everyone is a model.
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>>85400032

Yeap. Anka's Carol grew on me pretty quick. Surprising since I like Takeda's and Cho's Carols too, guess the requirement is just that she's not drawn as captain skeltal.
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>>85385570
There are more male feminists than actual females.
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>>85398637
>they're not saying that at all
They totally are tho.
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>>85401357
With Carol it was part of her character design tho. Stan the man himself wanted those tits and ass. This is loke makong power girl flat, it's body shaming is what it is.
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>>85398637
>you just want to interpret it that way
But it's really the only interpretation that makes sense. Everything about Carol's Captain Marvel design is about erasing femininity from the character right down to the very name. Marvel should take a lesson from Wonder woman--being an beautiful woman doesn't make you any less of a hero.
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>>85402202
It's about playing up her militaristic themes and giving her an actual hook that isn't "second wave feminist who can look sexy and kick butt too!!!!!"
If people want that, they've got Wonder Woman. And, like, every other female hero. You couldn't have the current Carol run with her as commander of Alpha Flight in the black leotard, it'd just look stupid.
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>>85402454
If it was about playing up her militaristic theme then why is Carol fine getting a demotion?
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>>85402454
She can wear her new suit and still look like a woman with a woman's haircut and a woman's body. She does not most of the time.
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>>85402588
Because "Colonel Marvel" would sound shit. She's still a colonel, anyway.
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>>85402454
An actual hook would an be an ex-alcoholic glory hound.
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>>85402616
The new suit looks shit with the old haircut, though.
>a woman's body
I will never understand this meme. You understand that most women are proportioned more like nuCarol than old Carol, right?
>inb4 "MUH COMICS DON'T HAVE TO BE REALISTIC"
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>>85402648
Which, yeah, she still is, outside of KSD's run. Her personality and her place in the world aren't the same thing, and I agree that she needs both to work as a character.
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>>85402658
>>inb4 "MUH COMICS DON'T HAVE TO BE REALISTIC"

Not capeshit. Superheroes aren't meant to represent average people, they show an ideal form.
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>>85402454
>Spider-man can go run around in his and blue pajamas
>Wolverine can kill bad guys in his murder spandex
>Captain America can be a decorated war hero with wongs on his head
But you're telling me that Carol can't lead a team in a black leotard?
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>>85391269
Iceman fucked tons of chicks before Marvel decided they needed a controversy boost to Bendis X-Men.
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>>85402709
>she still is
No she isn't, They wiped away her alcoholism and desperate need to be like.
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>>85402658
>The new suit looks shit with the old haircut, though.

I liked this look.
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>>85402722
She'd look pretty out of place in a military installation in the leotard, yeah.
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>>85386808
>Bendis is somewhat responsible for the art or design of Carol.
Why are people here such idiots?
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>>85402779
We're talking about Alpha flight here right? The superhero team with the acrobatic midget named puck? The same team that murder soandex wolverine running around his murder spandex?
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>>85400620
Happened the same to me.
Does that make me an empowered feminist?
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>>85402658
How many guys do you think look like Spider-man? I'm sorry but if you're going down thay road I have to pull the "the men are equally objectified too" card.
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>>85402658
>The new suit looks shit with the old haircut, though.
It looks great with PG hair.
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>>85402779
I see captain America in his costume on military installations all the time. He commands Solider's respect in that silly little thing.
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>>85402998
He's also a man
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>>85402658
Hey listen I'm with you on the whole "not all female characters have to be drawn like supwr models" but I probably wouldn't have chosen the character repeatedly noted for being curvier than others to redesign and make less curvy.
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>>85388042

She's just a hot-tempered futa that Kamala is scared to be alone with.
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>>85397579
>NOT MUCH CHEESECAKE CAROL
Hogwash. Carol can still look attractive in her modern uniform. Just wish they kept it black instead of blue.
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>>85404038
I'm OK with the suit, but that they had to change how her body looked is retarded.
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>>85404038
>>85404083
It's especially annoying to hear people try to deflect using the "muh cheesecake" argument when you were initially interested in the name and costume change. Fuck, if I had known it would turn out this shitty, I never would've supported the change in the first place.
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>>85402085
Well it's in the design of every character.
Sure I get it for power girl. But you can make almost every other character less beefy without affecting their personality.
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>>85385570
She really looks like Frank the Frank with blonde hair.
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>>85406071
HOLY SHIT SHE'S A FRANK
Jesus christ I didn't see it before.
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>>85400749
Im mad that your right but maybe if they try cw2 movie people will finally give up on marvel
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>>85385742
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hcSpSC8T0M
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>>85385570
>why?
Women want to be men.
They're jealous.

#yesallwomen
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>>85400004
Did this actually happen?
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>>85385570
It's called a MANtle for a reason, OP.
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>>85388031
with a sidecut ....
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>>85402777
Same. I think she looked really good in her appearances in Hickman's Avengers.
The SHIELD duds were pure sex.
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>>85402779
You know she led the the 'Mighty' Avengers in the leotard, right? You fucking secondary.
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>>85385742
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>>85385570
Was this by Steve Dillon?
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>>85387403
How did feminism go from "be everything women like" to "remove everything men like"?
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>>85386273
What was wrong with it, if you mind me asking?
It was inoffensive enough.
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>>85387819
I liked all the artists on that run.
Even the wavy one /co/ hated.
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>>85388042
It'd be an improvement desu.
And I actually like her.
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>>85398534
>Carol knew she had a lot of baggage and problems in her life, but she wanted to be the very best.
And she self-improved.
Yet here you are. Complaining.
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>>85409437
Because third wave feminists have never faced true oppression in the west so they have to make up shit.
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>>85402747
They wiped out the alcoholism straight after the arc that fucking introduced it, anon.
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>>85402716
And ideal no longer comes with the asterix "for teenage boys exclusively". :^)
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>>85388031
>>85385570
This.

The haircut itself is fine, but combined with her costume color scheme she looks like a caricature of a jingoist icon.

They really should've gone for more blue instead.
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>>85393930
>>85397633
>>85402202
>>85402454
>>85402722
I prefer the new costume because it visually strengthens her connection to the Captain Marvel legacy. :I
Giving Carol's Ms Marvel persona it's own internalized lore was a horrible idea that greatly contributed to the perception that she's a shitty character with no good stories. Get back to basics, Kamala's doing a much better job anyway.
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>>85388031
t. Tony
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>>85409437
>>85402716

But that depends on the artist, not the character. OP's Carol is frankly franky but these >>85397579 >>85404038 I like.

are nice
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>>85409694
You think the image of Captain Marvel in the OP is some teenage girl's ideal?
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>>85409579
>And she self-improved

She got mind wiped.
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>>85385742
Maximum kek
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>>85410000
You think a thicc slut is?
...On second thought don't answer that.
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>>85410103
That happened afterwards.
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>>85410000
I'm sure there are some teenage weightlifters and/or lesbians that want to look like nuCarol.
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>>85394452
>waldo is actually there
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>>85409878
>her connection to captain marvel
Is shaky at best.
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>>85409878
Oh I get it. She can only be a legitimate character if she directly modeled after a male character.
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>>85411459
Even if that was true it's still stronger than ANY of the other Captain Marvels.
>>85411487
If her Ms Marvel comics are any indication, yeah. *obnoxious shrug emoticon*
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>>85411291
>/or lesbians

What's the point of being a lesbian if the women you're attracted to look like guys?
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>>85411614

I don't think current Carol looks any more like a guy than she does, as long as the artist is decent.
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>>85394124
lol

Are they wearing makeup?

Immediately after giving birth, and while in pseudo-military uniform, respectively, they are wearing makeup.
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>>85411291
that wonky mouth is throwing me off
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>>85411291
>I VANT TO HUG YOU LIKE BEEG FUZZY SIBERIAN BEAR
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>>85412052
I don't think it's that weird actually. But I've seen like hockey playing women wearing makeup during a final because they know they might be photographed after it.
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