Let's say Danny Phantom gets rebooted. Who would you rather

Either Butch Hartman or Greg Weisman.

>>85216096
Anyone but Butch.

>>85216096
Greg Weisman. It would be canned after 2 seasons, but they'd be watchable.

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>>85216145

I rather not see Butch in charge again. He kinda fucked it up the first time. It was mediocre at best. What was an original, fresh and cool concept ultimately became Fairly Oddparents 2.0 Ghost Edition. The Ultimate Enemy was fucking great and that should have been the tone of the series. That's what the series should have been.

>>85216096
Weisman
but he needs to study the shit out of The Ultimate Enemy first, then do his thing.

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>>85216211
You know own tgat the original concept of Butch Hartman was more grim and had Danny fighting more monsters apart from ghosts?

Nick demanded it to be more like Fairy Oddparents.

>>85216203

Isn't Young Justice getting a third season on Netflix? Has the Weisman curse been broken?

>>85216096
>Let's say Danny Phantom gets rebooted
NO

NONONONONONO

(But if I had to pick those, Weisman)

>>85216096
it doesn't need a reboot and i'm not gonna put meme creators on a project they wouldn't want to work on

>>85216096
Hirsch didn't like Hartman or his work so he would be a bad choice

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>>85216096
All 3 of them.

Hartman supervisioning and character design, if he is allowed to go more for his original style >>85216348 or the Crash Nebula Pilot.


Weisman in charge of main plot.

Hirch on comedy and helping to build hype.

>>85216096
butch hartman has a way of taking a good idea and taking a big dump on it, so...i agree with OP. i'd say greg weisman or alex hirsche (alex would be a risk, if the backstory eps of GF are anything to go by the dude can't do lore or backstory to save his life)

>>85216551
Alex Hirsch's biggest problem IMO is his HATRED of competent male characters and putting Pussy on the Pedestal. Remember how annoying Sam already was in Danny Phantom. Now imagine a cuck like Alex Hirsch directing/writing her......she'd be even worse than Mabel at dodging accountability and stuff. God Sam was a terrible character.

No. Porn does not excuse shit. Danny Phantom premieres and the FIRST episode is about Sam and her vegan agenda forcing it on others against their will and the characters instead of hating her....they hate Danny who is innocent and has nothing to do with the vegan agenda. Fuck the cucks who created Sam and fuck Alex Hirsch for being a young generation extreme cuck.

>>85216096
>Butch Hartman
Would be bad, see how he raped Doogal?
>Alex Hirsch
Would plan for 3 seasons but get bored after one season and say "fuck it, cram it into season 2"
>Greg Weisman
Only acceptable choice

>>85216359
>Isn't Young Justice getting a third season on Netflix?
that bluster came and went with no news

>>85216096

Hirsch or better yet the Scooby-Doo Mystery Incorporated guys.

A reboot should be darker and more intense than the previous show, but still having a emphasis on humor.

>>85216096
Hartman would fuck it up, he added all my least favorite parts of Danny Phantom.

> Bryke

Hirsch could do a pretty decent job, though it'd definitely get a radical tone shift.

Weisman would do a fantastic job, but it'd either get cancelled at 2 seasons or he'd get taken off the project.

>>85216646

She was hot though.

>>85216413

source?

>>85217059
>>Jack Fenton would be a massive douche toward Danny and show favoritism toward Danny's sister and the daddy issues would spill out constantly in the writing
>>Vlad would be redeemed awkwardly in a five second scene and never pay for his crimes
Probably the worst potential offenders desu

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I'm guessing /co/ hates Bryke with a passion. Sure Korra was nowhere near as good as Avatar the Last Airbender but it was still decent . They can make some nice world building in Danny Phantom

>Weisman
>Bryke

Hell no. A DP reboot should stray away a bit more from the superhero aspects and focus more on the supernatural stuff.

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>>85216096
>Butch Hartman
Blew it the first time so no

>Alex Hirsch
Would be great at first but then he'll get bored of it and then rush the ending

>Greg Weisman
Will be fucking fantastic but will get cancelled after 2 seasons

>Bryke
Would make Danny and Tucker gay for no reason so they stroke their own egos and act like they are so progessive. Will have good animation though

>>85217506

Why can't it be both?

>>85217447
Worldbuilding isn't nearly as important in DP as character building though. The best parts of the ghost zone and shit like that were the ghosts themselves.

And Bryke is awful at that given what lack of character Asami had and what an awful character Korra is.

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There's only one true answer. Alex can mix comedy, action, drama and dark content nicely. He's perfect for Danny Phantom. Like>>85216211
said. The Ultimate Enemy is something I can see Alex Hirsch doing if he worked on Danny Phantom. That's right up his alley

>>85218054
If it's a single season reboot, maybe with a movie, I wouldn't mind this at all.

>>85217506
It came off far more as a kid hero show with a supernatural gimmick, than a supernatural show with a cape gimmick. You'd probably want the pilot idea more, provided it wasn't shit.

>>85217447
nope its the same idiot making the same thread

So Weisman > Hirsch > Hartman > Bryke?

>>85217158
>better yet the Scooby-Doo Mystery Incorporated guys.

They were Mitch Watson and Vic Cook.

Watson did Tak and Power of Juju, then after MI, did Beware the Batman and All Hail King Julien.

Cook did the Hellboy animated DTVs, Spectacular Spider-Man alongside Weisman, some of the Scooby DTVs, and is currently working on pic related.

So dep

>>85216211
This. I'd watch an entire season dedicated to the universe in the Ultimate Enemy timeline.

>>85216096
Glen Murakami tbqh

>>85219843

I can see this actually working.

>>85217506
Weisman has done supernatural. See the Rain of the Ghosts books.

>>85216096
What was your favorite aspect of The Ultimate Enemy?

And you guys should discuss more of what you would wanna see in a reboot....

>>85216096
Greg Weisman, but hopefully his curse would be revoked, and he'll do more than two seasons.

Zack Snyder.

>>85220484
My favorite part of TUE?
That Danny wasn't better than anyone.
One of the things that bothered me about the show was that almost every ghost except Danny was evil, and Danny was the good guy. He'd always end the episode with some terrible moral like "it doesn't matter what happened to you, the person you are now matters" or something.
And then he goes through like a fraction of the suffering his villains endured and he ends up becoming thousands of times worse than the worst of them.

I liked that. I never liked Danny.
The best part of the show was Vlad, Jack, and Maddie. I thought Vlad was the most interesting character in the show.

>>85220686
Woah there lad let's not do something we'll regret

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>>85220484
>What was your favorite aspect of The Ultimate Enemy?

It was serious, dark, funny and downright entertaining. The writing was top notch. It just blended everything nicely. It took risks. It felt like an episode of Batman the Animated Series. That's how the series should have been. It should have had that level of quality. Now imagine every episode of Danny Phantom being on the same level of quality as The Ultimate Enemy. It would be more beloved than Avatar the Last Airbender

can we have two people in charge, i feel if Butch was in charge i feel it'd be just like at worst modern FOP or at least Tuff puppy.

>>85221112

Is FOP still a thing?

>>85221617
Yes unfortunately

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>>85221698

Jesus Christ why

>Invader Zim and Fairly Oddparents premiered on the same exact night
>Zim has been cancelled for over a decade while the FOP is still going

Who is Butch fucking at Nickeledeon

>>85216096
>Let's say Danny Phantom gets rebooted
If it ever go rebooted it'll probably end up like Ben 10, PPG or Teen Titans Go
But if Hartman or Weisman got on it, I'd be interested.

>>85222209

But Hartman would literally turn it into Danny Phantom Go

>>85216096
Hirsch or Butch

Hirsch.

First choice Weisman, second choice Bryke.
But honestly whoever as long as the ghosts are actually dead people again.

>>85216096
How popular was Danny Phantom when it originally aired? It had a ton of potential and I wish we got something better, but it'd probably just get cancelled a second time if rebooted.

>>85223275
>But honestly whoever as long as the ghosts are actually dead people again.
Christ, I forgot about that mess.

>>85218054
Best answer.

Butch would fuck it up by making it go straight to comedy, Weisman would make a decent show but shift the focus way more to action/drama with the occasional bit of mediocre comedy, and Bryke would just straight up fuck it up.

Assuming Hirsh remembers to actually write a complete fucking outline for the plot this time, he could do a pretty good Danny Phantom show.

>>85220696
well tbf it wasn't just Danny, it was when Danny and Vlad's ghosts fused that they became totally evil

>>85216096
>Butch Hartman (original creator)
>Alex Hirsch (Gravity Falls)
>Greg Weisman (Gargoyles, Spectacular Spiderman, Young Jusice)
>Bryke (Avatar and Legend of Korra)
You should add in Rebecca Sugar and Patrick McHale, let's see what we get then .

>>85217059
Aw come on, that's hyperbole. Besides, as much of a mess Gravity Falls was near the end of its run, I'd rather take Hirsch over Bryke. Without Aaron as a writer, The Legend of Korra just fell apart into a melodramatic shitfest.

>>85223606
>let's see what we get then .

A show that, regardless of quality, /co/ will never, under any circumstance, like. Even if it was the best fucking show ever created, and every anon watched it every time a new episode was on and sung along with the theme song well shit posting about how bad it is.

>>85216096
Why reboot this?

How about you make a real ghost tv show that is actually based around death instead?

>>85223606

Why Sugar? Her work isn't something that would work with Danny Phantom. The others work can

>>85223638
This. Also, for all his flaws with gravity falls near the end, my lord can that guy write mystery. Give him someone who will fix his awkward pacing and weird self projection and you have yourself an alright reboot

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>>85217059
>>Jack Fenton would be a massive douche toward Danny and show favoritism toward Danny's sister

Wasn't Jack always like that ?

>>85224375
I wouldn't say Bryke's work matches up with Danny Phantom either. It was just a thought on ghost culture and if it could be expanded upon like it is with gems.

>>85216096
I choose Steve Marmel.

>>85224926

What's he doing now a days? He would be great since he wrote The Ultimate Enemy

>>85223418
What happened to his human side again after Dark Danny is made? Was he kill?

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>>85225071

Dark Danny killed him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6VglyOw7E0

>>85224993
Apparently he's currently working on MECH-X4
He also wrote for the Smosh movie

>>85224676
Like Aaron Ehasz or Steve Marmel?

FUCK Butch he would only ruin it again

Danny Phantom was only watchable in the first two seasons anyway

Weisman it is

>>85216211
That ep was my favorite as a kid
I would kill to see a reboot of it
And keep its mid 2000s quirky jokes

>>85225170
I thought that he shadowed him to keep his young human look to not make people suspicious

>>85226726

No Dark Danny straight up murders his human self

>>85227268
I thought that he took over his body
Because when he goes back in time he turns into young danny

>>85225170
Did Danny's ghost half or human half contain the emotions he wanted to get rid of? I thought it was the ghost half since it's the one that goes crazy when separated, but this clip says the opposite.

>>85227600
He's just disguised as his human self while present Danny is away. He isn't actually human or possessing anyone.

>>85227600
"Young Danny" is still just "Dark Danny", just before he fused with Vlad's ghost half. Dark Danny is pure ghost, and killed Human Danny after he fused with Ghost Vlad.

>>85227815
Sorry it's just that I haven't seen it in a while

>>85216096
>Greg Weisman
all his series are god tier, but i don't think cartoons like he likes to make are possile today, they cost to much to make and you just need flashy light to appeal to kids today. We can all say nuPPG and the new Ben 10 are a piece of shit, but the sad true is that they work, i don't know what happen to having standars in cartoons

>>85216348
this looks cool is sad that Butch sell out in the end is the same thing that happen to the guy that created yu-gi-oh that wanted to make a horror manga

>>85224842
yeah but at the end of the day it was because she needed it and danny was always a mama's boy

>>85216096
My money's on Bryke.

>>85224842
You really don't remember the episodes where he's prepared to die againts ghost just to have the chance to save his family and how he always try to have father and son moments with Danny

>>85225170
Man i loved this scene as a kid. I always wonder why Vlad ghost form looked more malicious than Danny's

Probably Weisman, but mostly because he needs stable work again and something that is his forte. I just can't get interested in the preschool shows or World of Warcraft novels he's going to work at.

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All this talk of The Ultimate Enemy is this thread made me go back and watch it. And to my surprise, it still holds up. It's actually really damn good. It feels like a series finale type episode. Why did they blow their load with The Ultimate Enemy and then the rest of the series was a forgettable pile of mediocrity?

>>85230554
The executives tell Hartman to replicate the succes of FOP, everyone here give Butch so much shit is this thread when Nick is the one who fuck up Butch idea, they wanted to make his own superhero show, but the network always give him shit

>>85230308

Is he doing anything now?

>>85231366
The projects I just mentioned. He's staff writing for Shimmer and Shine and writing a YA WoW novel.

>>85220696
> he goes through like a fraction of the suffering his villains endured
Danny witnessed the death of his family and friends, and had his ghost half painfully torn out of him
vlad had acne and got cucked by a fat guy

>>85216096
I would say Weisman but he seems to be cursed recently with not being allowed to finish shows.

>>85216096
Bryke or Weisman, no doubt about it

>>85222209
Well people really don't want a continuation because season 3 was a mess because Nick tell Hartman and the crew they were going to cancell the show so they have to rush everything. They where amazing ideas that we never get to see because Hartman wanted to five the series a ending, but sadly it wasnt' the best one

>>85219468
>Mystery Inc
>Hellboy Animated
>Beware the Batman
Okay, I'm in. I vote for these guys too.
Wonder what the pic was supposed to be.

>>85216413
source anon

>>85230554
Because Steve Marmel was fired for wanting to make the show more like TUE content/story-wise.

>>85216096
Fuck no. They raped the legacy Teen titans created. I have no hope Nick won't fuck this up to the same degree CN fucked up TT

Honestly just let shows that ended well end on a great note

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>>85234935
I fucked up. It was Stretch Armstrong.

>>85236235
But it didn't well anon, Nick make the crew rush the finale because they where been cancelled

>>85236235
I take it's been years since you watched the finale and let nostalgia blind you.

>>85236615
>Stretch Armstrong and the Flex Fighters
That sounds awesome.

>>85218022
>what an awful character Korra is.

You mean not a mary-sue like Aang?

>>85227795
Danny's Ghost Half contained all the emotions he wanted to get rid of, that's why it went nuts.

>>85240925
How is Aang a mary sue?

>>85218022
how was Korra an awful character?

>>85240925
bait.

>>85216096
Man, I was really into DP. So much so that I had used fanfiction to fill the void for a long while. When the fuck is Nick going to jump on the smash clone train and hopefull make a semi-decent clone. As long as it's better than fucking Punch-Time-Explosion. CN really fucked that shit up to hell.

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>>85216096
If I get a choice, why wouldn't I pick myself? That way I can autistically get all the details just the way I want them.

>>85241320
>Man, I was really into DP
I'm sure you're not the only one on /co/ who has been into DP at one point or another.

>>85241013

He's always so happy go lucky and always does the right thing.

His "struggles"are easily overcome and he gains new advantages without really paying a price.

His character only gets truly interesting when Appa gets kidnapped and he flips out (shown best when he coldly kills a vulture/wasp animal) but then baby gets born, tadaa perfect again!

Or when he has to choose between his principals or saving the world in regards to the fire lord but once again a perfect solution pops at the end completely free of cost.

>>85241699
>He's always so happy go lucky and always does the right thing.
He's a fucking monk. He's a fucking kid. Just because you're shit life fucking sucked doesn't mean all children have shit childhoods.

>His "struggles"are easily overcome and he gains new advantages without really paying a price.
He's the fucking AVATAR. And he does still fucking fail as one, like others. 100 years war? Extinction of Air Nomads? BURNING FUCKING KATARA?

>His character only gets truly interesting when Appa gets kidnapped and he flips out (shown best when he coldly kills a vulture/wasp animal) but then baby gets born, tadaa perfect again!
He's a KID. They bitch over not having what they want, you give them what they want, TAHDAH. PERFECT AGAIN.

>Or when he has to choose between his principals or saving the world in regards to the fire lord but once again a perfect solution pops at the end completely free of cost.

MONK. AVATAR. SPIRIT WORLD.
Did every fucker just forget that the world of the Avatar isn't just "Earth"? They explictly shown how linking oneself to the spirit world, espeically the Avatar, you gain more wisom and knowledge of things you CANNOT discover in the real world. Hence, the damn SPIRIT Lion Turtle.

God. It's not Shakespeare levels of "DEPTH" but all that's always bitched about that fucking show isn't a FAULT of it, everything is conformed just fine in the show's already explored story.

>>85223661
Are you saying people don't like SU just because it's Rebecca's show and not because it's numerous flaws?

>>85241932

Christ I hit a sore spot.

Anyway to better explain my point I'm just going to focus on your last argument.

It's not about lore it's about dilemma. Aang had to make a choice and neither option was "good" they both had downsides. This is what makes characters and stories interesting because in real life people have to deal with dilemma's.

But no just for the sake of keeping Aang perfect a third option appeared with no downsides or any drawback.

And that's just shitty writing.

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>>85216096
>Hartman
FOP 2.0 reloaded
>Hirsch
gets ended as soon as he's bored with it, most of the episodes are just meh, and has a crappy finale
>Greg Weisman
if he's at his Gargoyles/Spectacular Spiderman level he's the one I'd want behind it, but if we're talking Young Justice I'd rather not
>Bryke
Im-fucking-plying

>>85224676
he can write a mystery, but the solutions/answers are always shit

>>85243215

Whats wrong with Young Justice? It was a pretty good show. And why not Bryke?

>>85243864
YJ while okay was plagued with problems (Unnecessary shipping, villains who never lose even if they do, the timeskip, the lackluster finale)
as for Bryke, they've proven that they're all but incapable of writing anything without a team to slap them upside the head and say "Don't do that" going over their original Plans for Avatar and seeing what they did to korra is all the proof I need that they'd be shit with Danny Phantom.

>>85243989

Fair enough. But I think Bryke gets too much shit. Sure they had a lot of help with ATLA and yes Korra wasn't as good but it was still watchable and there was more good than bad

>>85244247
the only good thing about Korra is S3, which was invalidated by the shitshow that was S4.

>>85243989
>villains who never lose even if they do

There's nothing wrong with making the best out of a problem or learning from it, instead of throwing a tantrum and yell CURSES! FOILED AGAIN!

>>85244291
but when the villains go "Lol I didn't lose" every time the heroes do something it makes the heroes seem incompetent.

>>85244369
But they didn't say that. But also, this is a villain organization that is founded by two immortal villains that have had centuries to plan, a near-God entity, and some of the most powerful people on the planet and nearly all supervillains on payroll. It they were to lose on a weekly basis, you people would bitch about them jobbing to a bunch of kids.

Besides, it made the near end of season two all the more satisfying to watch.

>>85244407
I disagree but to each their own I guess

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>>85216096
We need to see Butch without Nick's constant pushing.
I'll blame Nick on a lot of shit that happened wrong because of them wanting it to appeal to more.

>>85221617
Yes, have you not seen the character Chloe?

>>85225426
Smosh the movie was the biggest money grab smosh did

>>85244911

I dropped the show when the dog came around. Who is Chloe

>>85217592
>Will be fucking fantastic but will get cancelled after 2 seasons
then he needs to make really long seasons to complete the story

>>85229873
it's probably like a stand thing

>>85246429
You mean their powers are linked to their emotions and will and that why Danny can get stronger than Vlad

>>85246273
A girl who moved next door to Timmy, and now he has to share Cosmo and Wanda with her.
She's pretty entertaining imo.

>>85241932
>random CAPLOCK letters PROVE YOUR point

YOUNG DANNY FENTON HE WAS JUST 14

>>85248607
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZuBiIuwjSI

>>85224842
No. Dude loved the hell out of his family . If he ever did act like a douche then it was more out of stupidity than being malicious

>>85250628
Remember the Pariah Dark movie, when he wanted to sacrifice himself using the suit to fight Pariah is a chance to save his family

>>85251088
Then everyone else did.

That was a good scene. I laughed.

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>>85244407
This nigga fucking gets it.

>>85240925
Not this shit again.

Alex and Greg team up. Would be so fucking perfect

SDMI crew or bust. I would especially not want Hirsch.

>>85257121
Why them, in particular?

>>85257674
I just trust a team who's already made a fantastic reboot. SDMI had a near-perfect balance between actual good comedy and serious long-term plots, all while still retaining the "monster of the week" format of the original series. If DP were rebooted, I think it would work best with a similar handling.

>>85258582
Do they have any action experience, though?

>>85258706

Butch didn't have any action experience either when he made DP

>>85216096
stop reboothing things god dammit

>>85216096
beg this never happens
hartman or weisman

>>85216096

>Let's say Danny Phantom gets rebooted.

Let's not.

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>>85216096
Get Shinichirō Watanabe (The creator of Space Dandy and Cowboy Bebop) behind it and make it into an anime.

>>85258706
See >>85219468
Beware the Batman and Spectacular Spider-Man.

>>85261352

Also maybe get someone like Glen Murakami or Derrick Wyatt to update Hartman's designs.