has anyone ever actually gone crazy and kill bad people in real life

You think Frank is crazy?

Frank isn't crazy.

His trial scene in Daredevil S2 showed that well.

>>85138327
He just mad. Real mad.

>>85138296
U think he would do anything like he is now if he had his family

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The President of The Philippines
Bernhard Hugo Goetz
>>85138296
>>85138327
Frank is crazy, that's not up for debate. Even Ennis, the revered God of all things Punisher considers Frank a lunatic. Just because he doesn't run around smearing himself in shit, does not mean he isn't batshit.

>>85138412
Mad like Max?

>>85138433
I think what happened made him angry, not crazy
He made the conscious choice to take up arms against crime, fully aware of the consequences and risks

>>85138275
Every solder in war. Many cops.

>>85138565
Frank Castle he's a lunatic he goes in the streets and murders people it doesn't matter if they're criminals the justice system would look at him as a murderer and yes he has some state of mind that does not matter the way he acts the way he thinks is psychopathic

>>85138442
Madder than Max. At least Max had time for taking care of a dog. Frank doesn't.

>>85138648
>gone crazy and kill bad people
>Every solder in war
The fuck? That's not how war works.

Christopher Dorner went crazy against a corrupt system.

Unfortunately he ended up killing people most definitely innocent of involvement in that system.

>>85138275

Yes but he got caught

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_Rodrigues_Filho

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>>85138716
Nigga wut?

>>85138788
Well fuck me, I was wrong.

>>85138744
War makes people crazy.

>>85138565
angry does not mean "not crazy"
it is not rational to arm yourself and murder people you "think" are evil. there is a system of law and order for sorting out the bad guys. Frank is not engaging people in combat. often times he is overpowering, and then executing people. he is a serial killer.

this is not an easy thing to do! human beings don't deal with murder very well. most people suffer massive damage in the form of PTSD. for Frank to just soldier on and keep killing means he is either some kind of metahuman, like being able to murder without remorse is his superpower, or he is a sociopath

>>85138908
Not every soldier
And certainly not every soldier actually kills an enemy. Plenty, maybe most, will never actually get the opportunity to shoot any one.

>>85138275
depends on which frank

MAX frank is an utter piece of shit who kills the criminal equivalent of chicken thieves pretending it's justice. He must have ruined countless families. He's also on the crazy side due to trauma.

>>85138908
That's still not how war works.

>>85138964
>like being able to murder without remorse is his superpower
But it actually is, he was able to tank a Penance Stare because of it.

Obviously not. Comrade Drumpf is still breathing and tweeting.

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>>85138440
>The President of The Philippines
>After his election win, Duterte also launched a seemingly unprovoked attack against the UN.
>“Fuck you UN, you can’t even solve the Middle East carnage ... couldn’t even lift a finger in Africa [with the] butchering [of] the black people. Shut up all of you,” he said.
This fucking guy.

>>85139000
>MAX frank is an utter piece of shit who kills the criminal equivalent of chicken thieves
I'd say that's the only Frank that ever killed people arguably worth killing. Most other Punisher tales had standard action movie/exploitation movie villains. In Max, Frank dealt with the worse humanity had to offer.

>>85138440
Yeah man, it's quite clearly shown that Frank enjoys killing people if he thinks it fits his moral compass.

>>85139000
>the criminal equivalent of chicken thieves
The Albanian human traffickers? Nicky Cavella? The Irish guys?

>>85138773
Most awesome so far

>>85139077
EL DUTERTE FUERTE

Now if only Mexico and other drug fueled countries would get a president like him.

Did Frank even kill a gabagoo in the Daredevil show?
https://youtu.be/sbwA57IxhQY?t=30s

The Killdozer guy, maybe.

>>85139077
So he's the Punisher if he was the president

>>85139347
>Lex Luthor became president
>Frank Castle never will
The world is cruel. The world is wicked.

>>85139077
He's an idiot that openly condones lynching people

>>85139093
He killed everyone who got involved. Which is the equivalent of nuking middle east to get rid of the terrorists

What MAX failed to understand is that not all crime comes from evil people, sometimes people find themselves in fucked up situations that put them as part of the crime underground but they can still redeem themselves. Frank doesn't care. He kills black sheep brother, he kills the family's only source of income, he kills the father of three, he kills everyone.

And the ending was fucking disgusting.

Don't get me wrong, MAX, at least the first writer, is excellent. It's Frank is also a monster. A mass murderer that uses justice as an excuse to harm others.

>>85139191
idiots that sold coke on the streets, common thugs from impoverished places. Hell I think I remember a thug getting killed despite the fact he actually showed frank he had a family to take care of.

>>85139415
>idiots that sold coke on the streets
This is bad because...?
>a thug getting killed despite the fact he actually showed frank he had a family to take care of.
Oh yeah, that's totally a justification for breaking THE LAW.

>>85138773
how the fuck did he kill almost 50 people while in jail

wouldn't they have put him solitary before that?

>>85139491
the law has due procedure and proper escalation of punishment based, on ideal situations, on analysis of the harm done.

frank kills indiscriminately.

>This is bad because...?

Coke doesn't kill unless the consumer is an idiot

would you also kill people who sell cigarettes? They are addictive too.

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>>85139415
>What MAX failed to understand is that not all crime comes from evil people,
The problem is that you seem ignorant of the tradition of storytelling Frank comes from. What you're saying isn't wrong, but The Punisher has stronger dies to Death Wish the movie, than Death Wish the novel. If you want an excellent Vigilante comic that explores the humanity of criminals to one degree or another, you should read Marv Wolfman's Vigilante.

>>85139575
>coke = cigarettes
Well if you're going to pretend to be a retard, there's no point in talking to you.
>>85139567
Maybe like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLz8GMZHmqc

>>85139567

It's south america

>>85139585
I get your point. I guess I just can't no longer stomach that form of storytelling. I felt even worse when reading Big Man Plans. I'll take your rec.

>>85139687
In terms of their effects their are the same mate. One's shunned and the other's not. They are both drugs.

Or you mean the business of coke trafficking? Do you know what a middleman is? The guy that buys drugs from the actual traffickers to resell them in the neighborhood. All the middlemen I've known are no different than normal people. Franks would kill those.

>>85139567
Welcome to Latino America, where Jails are basically playgrounds you can't get out off.

don't ever get jailed for pedophilia.

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>>85140023
> I guess I just can't no longer stomach that form of storytelling.
I get that. I find The Punisher tolerable when it comes to that. I read Johnathan Ross' "Revenge," or tried to read it, even if it was satire, it was quite a nasty comic.

>>85139415
>He's an idiot that openly condones lynching people

Not like there's a shortage of people in the Philippines

What are some games I can role play as Frank?

GTA4 was sorta okay because the most wanted list. GTA5 we also sorta okay because Michael sorta looked him Frank, and there were gang members you could kill.

Thinking maybe Fallout 4 next.

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>>85140577
This is a bit of a long shot, but I think this one might be up your alley

>>85138275
Chris Dorner
>ib4 /pol/

>>85140650

Not immersive enough.

>>85139253
Northern-Mexifag here, i want the exact same thing, its horrible not been able to walk in the street without the impending possibility that you might get robbed/caught in a shooting.
Central and South Mexico can fuck off tho, those guys are animals.

>>85139000
>saying bad things about the only real Frank

>>85138275
Yeah

Like President Obama for example

>>85139491
>breaking any law justifies gettig murdered on the spot

>Frank will not murder all CEOs of corrupt banks, which willingly destroyed the lifes of millions citizens and smuggled money for the worst militant groups

>Frank will never go on an explicit mission to get rid of all criminal politicians

Yeah, no. Outside of the Max Vietnam run, the whole character is based on the ignorant wordview of the white middle class from the 60.

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>>85138716
Frank loves doggos almost as much as he loves Franking. Possibly more.

>>85138440
>Bernhard Hugo Goetz
>Shoot 4 people allegedly trying to rob him
>Found not guilty and justified self defence
>Civil lawsuit for person that tried to rob him because he became a paraplegic
>$43 million judgement against him

What in the fuck. How can people look at this system and not think the law is fucking stupid?

So he wouldn't have had anything against him if he had shot that guy dead right? What the fuck.

What the fuck do you even do with your life if you have to pay a $43 million civil judgement to someone?

>>85139253
>Now if only Mexico and other drug fueled countries would get a president like him.
You are implying that a president like that would make it past the election

>>85139575
coke isnt the same as cigarettes, no one sucks dick and kills for cigarettes, at least not nearly as much as people do for blow

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sure those middlemen arent especially evil but they are hurting people through addiction and supporting fucked up systems in latin america.

there are too many people are the earth, some deserve to die more than others, at least frank kills to prevent evil from happening and depopulates those who most deserve to be depopulated

>>85143426
>polar bear
>Lovable

>>85138275
Well, those veterans who shot up cops in order to protect their communities sure count, no?

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>>85138275
Charles Bronson single-handily brought Manhattan to justice after his wife and daughter were raped and killed.

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CAN'T BELIEVE THIS HASN'T BEEN POSTED!!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_McCaslin

He had a full costume and everything!

>>85138275
Usually they just kill their family or fellow classmates.

>>85143671
He then spent the remainder of his life mourning as everyone around him was raped and killed.

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>>85144932
Redpilling this bubble-headed bleach blond.

This motherfucker was hardcore to the fucking bone.

>>85138275
You know those people as terrorists.

>>85138275
George Zimmerman

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>>85139415
>it's a "Tripfag with shitty opinions" episode

>>85144965
Whoa, so the guys who beat women for not wearing towels over their heads and behead gays were actually the good guys all along? Really makes you think...

>>85145111
You know what I mean. Someone in real life behaving like the Punisher would immediatly be classified as a terrorist.

>>85138908
War is hell for a reason.
Sometimes good people find themselves in a hellish place, and make it out relatively ok. Some don't. That's how the strife of living works, champ. War doesn't do shit, people do. Those three letters aren't driving tanks or loading armaments. People are generally crazy on their own, we don't need war to make it happen.

>>85138275
I would imagine people have tried and it was probably reported as gang violence.

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>>85140834
>Chris Dorner
Oh yeah I forgot about him. What a tale.
>works for lapd, aka corrupt enough to be the nypd of the west
>gets racist shit casually said to him, asked to do shady shit, etc
>goes full bore and takes out a few corrupt fellow cops he knew, fucks off to a cabin inna-woods
>lapd almost kills a black guy taking a bath while looking for him, also shot two Asian women in a truck that looked like his, at least one of them died in the hospital
>Charlie sheen was mentioned in his manifesto, so sheen gives out a message asking to call him so they can try to sort this out
>when they surround his cabin they quickly order it to be burned down in an almost semi-subtle way, "burn the fucker down" over radio that was accidentally overheard but muffled by distance
>the ashes only have one body, too small to be dorners, and a perfectly not-scorched wallet with dorners plastic ID not melted at all
>Totally legit coming from the LAPD, right?
>rumor's of horse tracks going from the cabin exist, nothing solid though
>/v/ sent him a pizza during the cabin standoff, and made a Free-Doom mod-game based on the standoff called Chris Dorners Last Stand, several videos exist on youtube, check it out if you can, primo stuff.
Hell of a ride.
You can't corner the Dorner.

>>85145428
I always hoped he made it out and that he's been laying low all these years

Are there any comics, books, movies like Ennis' Punisher Max, where one guy(non-caped) goes all out against the mafia, terrorists and evil.

>>85138275

who was that one guy whos kid got raped by his karate instructor on some island and the guy ran up behind him and yelled" WHYD YOU DO IT?!" before shooting him the back of the head.

I think he was set free too

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There was this guy, Marvin Heemeyer, who built the killdozer to rid the city of corrupt officials and politicians.
Pic related

>>85145428

expect you know Dorner also went after the corrupt LAPDS families too

>>85146313
>killdozer

I wish we had more crazy people like Killdozer

>>85146527
You can't really corner the dorner

>>85146527
They failed to reform their communities.

>>85146612

what have you done to reform your community? maybe i should shoot you in the back of the head

>>85139077
Aren't shitloads of innocent people getting lynched based on nothing but accusations?

>>85146701
My community, unlike the cop community, isn't made up of mass murderers, robbers and terrorists, Anon.

They clearly fail to raise their kids right.

>>85143023
>have to pay a judgement


Oh silly anon, that's not how that works. Judgements are mostly meaningless against individuals because they don't have more to lose than just paying it. It's only really relevant if there are assets to seize. Depending on local state laws and all that.

>>85138275

Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold did nothing wrong

>>85146737
This, as well as addicts who need help and who aren't dealing/violent. The dude's crazy

>>85147142
>The dude's crazy

Not really. He wouldn't vote for Trump.

>>85147202
But he would totally vote for Idi Amin. He even compared himself to Idi Amin.

>>85147202
He'll take out Hillary and go into
hiding until Trump is officially president.

>>85138327
He definitely isn't stable. Fighting in a war and then coming home only to have your wife and two kids murdered in cold blood can do a number on someone's psyche. I'm no psychologist, but I'd venture to guess that Frank probably suffers from something PTSD-related, even if he refuses to admit it.

>>85139415
Oh look, another tripfag spouting his bullshit opinions. Away with you.

>>85142856
Mr. Payback pls go

>>85142856
>the whole character is based on the ignorant wordview of the white middle class from the 60.
This, The character always read like a covert white supremacist's power fantasy. Sure Frank mostly goes after the mob, but you can't help but smell the subtext that says "Death to those brown people."

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>>85148045
I don't see it.

>>85138275
>has anyone ever actually gone crazy and kill bad people in real life

If a real person decided to become the Punisher and kill criminals in America, 87% of their bodycount would be black.

And so he'd be considered a racist extremist.

>>85139491

>Oh yeah, that's totally a justification for breaking THE LAW.

But frank also broke the law.

Being a vigilante is a crime, so I assume it happened enough times for there to be a law about it.

>>85139491
>Oh yeah, that's totally a justification for breaking THE LAW.
It's as much of a justification as Frank's.

>>85143023

This is why in Japan they make sure to finish people off (Accidentally run someone over? Start backing up) so they don't have to pay them for the rest of their lives.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Vigilantes

>>85149009
That's China, stupid.

>>85149069
What's the difference?

>>85148045
/co/mblr

>>85138275
ISIS

>>85149069

Aw, right.

>>85140023
to be fair all that people who died in Big Man Plans deserved it. not exactly in that horrifying way but deserved nonetheless

>>85140023
Because cigarettes aren't smuggled and distributed by cartels and result in deaths of thousands every year due to it.

>>85149116
10/10

>>85138275
Nope, but retards on /b/ used to kil themselves. That counts?

>>85142856
>>85148045

flippity floo, here's your (you)!

>>85139415
OH BOY OH BOY!! /co/, PLEASE STOP TE FUCKING PRESSES IS A TRIP FAG WITH AN OPINION. LOL

>>85138275
The entire police force did and ended up giving birth to Black Lives Matter

>>85138275
Can't corner

>>85138773
>father gets accused of crime
>kills people responsible
>girlfriend got killed by gang
>kills and tortures people to find out the identity of the gang
>father kills mother
>he kills the father and chews on his heart
jesus fuck

>>85139077
>>85138440
Why is the Pilippines so insane?

>>85142856
>Frank will not murder all CEOs of corrupt banks, which willingly destroyed the lifes of millions citizens and smuggled money for the worst militant groups
But really, why shouldn't he?

>>85139077

I'd like to imagine that he's already killed everyone associated with The Nutshack

>>85153798
It is literally the Mexico of Asia. A literal mirror image of Mexico, from the Spanish sounding names, brown people to drug cartels.

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>>85138275

Was the Unabomber before your time, op?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Kaczynski

>inb4 the people he killed weren't really "bad," you'd be saying the same thing about the Punisher if he existed in real life

>>85139077
that man is a literal meme with a power to have a kill order on anyone

>>85153836
He has. Baron had him take on Wallstreet lunatics, and Ennis had him take on a Corporation in "Barracuda."

>>85154492
I think I can fap to this.

>>85146015
There was this one story I read about a guy who's son got raped and the guy raped the rapist. Dead fucking serious.

https://www.rt.com/news/man-revenge-rapes-sons/

>>85140925
Doesn't north mexico have a higher murder rate than the other regions?

>>85143426

Jesse?

>>85149931
Actually they are. Cigarette smuggling is comparatively low risk/low punishment crime with a decent return.

http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba423/

>>85139415
>Which is the equivalent of nuking middle east to get rid of the terrorists
So like if Donald Trump were a superhero?

>>85139270
why does he wear the mask?

>>85144955
>One chance at life
>In same family as Charles Bronson

Fuck.

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>>85138275
Well, yes anon.
It was called the Siege of Michoacan.

Is frank that 'one good guy' with a gun I keep hearing people say needs to be around to deal with all these 'bad guy with guns'?

Also. Can Frank actually effect society without actually committing a one man war against crime?

Because he knows its not working. He knows it'll never work, but he keeps doing it anyway.

Besides if he did wipe out all crime on Earth, you know what he's gonna do? Immediately go kill space criminals, but not in a shitty what-if event way.

>>85140925
That's what you get for living in Tamaulipas.

>>85154703
What the fuck
Couldn't he just kill the rapist

>>85143671
Charles Bronson was a really cool guy.

That Nicholas W. Refn movie about him was great too

>>85161033
Eye for an eye. Rape for a rape

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>>85158991
>El Destructor De Mundos
Every time

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>>85154703
Punishing evil with the power of perversion.

>>85138327
Speaking of the trial scene, there was a /co/ thread a couple months back where some anon made a parody post of that scene with Frank talking about how he shitposted because he wanted to and how he loved shitposting. Did anyone happen to screenshot that?

>>85154045
stupid phoneposter

George Zimmerman.

>>85158991
>zyzz
we're all gonna make it, brah

I'm about done with the Punisher Max series.

What other Punisher comics should I venture to next and will it ever top the Max series?

>>85162900
Ennis' MArvel knights punisher

>>85139347
that's a fucking hilarious idea for a comic, would read 10/10

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>>85162900

>and will it ever top the Max series?

Probably not, but there's still plenty of decent.

>>85145034
Self defense, even if he was being attacked by pure evil.

>>85161803
I could not find it, but I know what you're talking about and I looked through my folders for an hour. I am sorry

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>>85161803
>>85166145
>You know those, uh... Those memes? The ones I posted, the people I insulted? I want you to know that I'd do it all again. This is a circus, all right? It's a charade, it's an act. It's bullshit about how crazy I am. I ain't crazy! I'm not crazy. Okay? I know what I did. I know who I am. And I do not need your help. I'm smack dab in the middle of my right goddamn mind, and any scumbag, any... any lowlife, any maggot piece of shit that I memed on, I did it because I liked it! Hell, I loved it! I'm sitting here, I'm... I'm just itching. I'm itching to do it again. And you think... You think you're gonna ban me? Some mod, they're gonna get me to stop from doing what I want to do? Well, that ain't happening! Not on my watch! You people, you call me the Shitposter, ain't that right? The big bad Shitposter. Well, here I am! You want it, you got it! I am the Shitposter! I'm right here! You want it, I'll give it to you. And anyone who came here today to hear me whine, to hear me beg? Well, you can kiss my ass! Do you hear me? I'm guilty. Come on, please, mods! I'm guilty, you hear me? I'm guilty! I'm guilty! I'll post every one of those memes! I'll post every single one!

>>85166581
Thank you anon.

Is the current ongoing Punisher good?

>>85138773
Don't forget https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodrigo_Duterte

has anyone brought up that middle eastern teacher who went after isis after they killed some of his students ?

>>85166888
sauce?

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>>85166703
Mediocre so far, it doesn't really have an identity. The beats it hit are very superficial, an example is Frank interacting with the little girl, it's just there. Usually there's some kind of kick in the better moments of him interacting with children. Rucka was able to get away with no voice over because he had stuff you cared about going on and setting things up.

>>85167041
>"Your father's dead, and I killed him"
>no hint of emotion on his face
badass

>>85167041
I love that.