Suicide Squad embargo count down thread

Probably better, seems more of a crowd pleaser. Though there is a resistance among a lot of film critics to its seemingly too self serious brand of irreverence.

>>85070078
>How booked are your theaters BTW? I wanted to check AMC but it looks like it's sold out for the weekend where I live.

Empty, actually... but the presales started today so who knows.

>>85070349
I really hope the final edit isn't WB just trying to make more jewbucks from another "ultimate" cut on bluray

I'd rather see the director's vision whether it's good or bad (Snyder)

been looking over all the twitter reactions on reddit

here is a summary
>its a really entertaining movie and a lot of "fun" - something MOS/BvS weren't (according to these tweets)
>average scores/impressions seem to be between 7-8.5/10; 1 or 2 negative or disappointed reactions, plus usual over-hyped viewers treating it like its the greatest thing ever
>fast paced, but sometimes too fast paced; major character get solid arcs though
>primary villain is average, but serves the plot well
>Leto's joker is divisive. Some love, others not as much. Some just making comparisons to Ledger. Regardless he apparently isn't in it enough to gauge how good or bad of a joker he is; Ive seen more positive than negative though
>Margot Robbie and Will Smith are clear standouts and steal the show but almost every character has there moments
>Its DC's best film in a long time and the best DCEU film (miles ahead of MOS/BvS)
>Soundtrack is killer
>Crowd-pleaser through and through

Im predicting a 75% RT score, similar to Cinemablend's prediction. Also Drew Mcweeny, Scott Weinberg, Jeff Sneider, Justin Kroll, Thompson, and Mark Hughes, have all reported positive buzz about Suicide Squad last few days. These are the same critics who heard negative things for BvS before release

>>85070468
Where do you live? Presales in America started early last month.

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Gonna guess take your bets everyone

Who's going for 100

Who's going for 15

Me personally 65% to 75%

>>85070078
isn't it 9am est
more like 10 hours

>>85070512
Mexico City.

>>85070544
9am pacific, 12 eastern

>>85070544
12 am est on Tuesday

>>85070643
That's 13 hours, OP is fucking useless.

Not to praise Leto (because we still need to see his performance) but if you're standard for judging a Joker is Ledger then youre opinion is immediately discarded. Love the guy, but far from the best incarnation. If anything we need something that falls between him and Nicholson

>>85070710
Seeing a lot of it in the early reviews though.

"This joker didn't really scream evil genius to me"

>>85070078
I refuse to believe something can top BvS fiasco. A solid 40% in worst case scenario. Best around 70%.

>>85070690
AM.

>>85070897
>Best around 70%.

This to be honest family, I will be surprised if it goes above 70%

>>85070710
89 Joker is not better than TDK Joker, who is very accurate outside of not having his skin bleached.

>>85070078
I'm guessing 75%. It'll be fresh but not Guardians of the Galaxy - it's likely MCU equivalent - fresh.

>>85071014
Oh I never said he was, my point is we need something between cartoony and psychopath. And I wouldnt call Ledger accurate. Regardless its pointless to even argue that considering the number of interpretations they've been

I just want a fun/entertaining movie, I'm not expecting anything lifechanging. My main problem with BvS was that it was fucking boring and dull, something that this movie doesn't seem to be.

>>85070078
82%

>>85070078
>2 hours lads.
Think you mean 12.

Another SS non-embargoed review

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBDPgE29bmU

Pros
>Leto Joker
>Killer Croc
>Very fun and exciting
>Jam packed with content

Cons
>Margot Harley Quinn
>cringe worthy dialogue (I'm guessing mostly Will Smith stuff)
>cliched story

>>85071403
whats odd is that most reactions have Leto as a con and Margot as a pro

>>85071393
AM. 12 AM on Tuesday, anon. 1 hour 15 minutes from now.

>>85071435
no its Tuesday 9 am pacific time, which is 12pm eastern time (3 hour difference). So noon eastern, 9am pacific.

This has been confirmed multiple times.

>>85071431
I'm starting to think they're probably both just okay because the clips I've seen of them so far don't look that good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI_Ys_yOJpY

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>>85071498
>Tuesday 9 am pacific time
No it's 9 PM PST which means it's 12 am EST

>>85071646
Nice shop bro

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>>85071646

>>85071403
yeah I think this dude has it flipped with joker and harley as per what most critics think

Seeing pretty diverse opinions from this all over. Going to pin it down the middle at 50% RT.

I've heard mostly good things about Dead shot and Harley, mostly bad about Leto and the story.

Nobody has hinted that it is terrible or great. Seems very middling.

>>85070078
>2 hours lads.

I thought it was closer to 12

>>85071842
>Seems very middling.

Critics seem to be tearing apart mediocre efforts this year.

I'm guessing 57%

>>85071676
https://twitter.com/renemiamiherald/status/759888672544088064

>>85071735
Everywhere else on the web is saying pm.

>>85071902
It's probably the casts fault, Will Smith seems like a weird choice and he's not even trying

>>85071902
DC has a pretty poor stigma attached. I bet it will fall on the bad side of middling when reviews come in.

Give me a dollar for every review that references Ledgers Joker and/or BvS.

>>85071842
>>85071902
>middling

quite the opposite see >>85070495

>>85071967
>Give me a dollar for every review that references Ledgers Joker and/or BvS.

I don't want to go broke.

>>85071971
That's a single opinion. I've said that when you look at all of the opinions together they are diverse.

>>85072004
https://www.reddit.com/r/DC_Cinematic/comments/4uz02s/suicide_squad_press_screenings_and_rumored/?sort=new

read through the reactions. There are honestly a couple negative but most peg it as good to great.

not to mention what was said about the film's buzz. the reaction has not been mixed, its been positive according to the same insiders who revealed Batman/Superman's bad buzz

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>>85072106
>reddit

>>85072004
Theres a lot more positivity than anything else, heck this faggot>>85071646 was a literal answer to that and he got btfo for being a shill.

>>85072106
Keep in mind the people posting the initial reactions are at an event with all the stars and all the glam. People routinely get overhyped at these big flashy openings. So good to great really needs to be taken down a peg.

>>85072155
Pretty much. RT is fucking worthless for anything but shitposting, but good god is it an infinite font for shitposting.

>>85072155
>Diverse cast
>black leader
>white womyn
>evil white man & magical evil white woman
They don't make RT scores high enough.

>>85072155
I do agree. None of my opinions ever line up with RT. If I list my favourite movies they are all under 50% and my biggest disappointments of the last 2 years (birdman and Star Wars) were apparently amazing.

So is the embargo ending in 12 hours or 24?

>>85072262
12 I believe. But lots of people got early viewing and it just had it's official release about 30 mins ago. So there are unofficial reviews flying around.

I'm expecting meh to pretty good.

>>85072106
>There are honestly a couple negative but most peg it as good to great.
This is exactly what happened before BVS on that same reddit. Keep in mind these are hardcore DC fans who just attended the premiere.

We'll know what the score is tomorrow. I refuse to get hyped until then.

>>85070078
Seen it. Enjoyable, but not great. Unbalanced in a lot of ways. Wouldn't mind seeing it again.

>>85072317
This is what I'm trying to say.

Point one film premier where people came out with an accurate review. They always way overrate it coming out of the gates, this was a hand picked audience.

>>85072337
What were the best and worst parts?

I've felt from comiccon (Or maybe it was some other con) last year that this was going to be better than BvS. You can usually tell a lot about how a film's going to be based on how the actors interact with each other outside of filming.

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I wanna see Mark Waids opinion. That fat cynical fuck always makes me smile.

>>85072442

>Sigh

I hate this shit

>>85072442
Ruh roh.

But to be fair I've read about 50 reactions and that one is by far the worst.

>>85072442

DAMN 50%?

>>85072442
DC IS OVER

>>85071014

Nicholson was the best live action Hoker that we've ever had.

Oh but where would we be without Movieblob's opinion? Surely he will save us from these uncertain times

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>>85072442
Someone didn't get to be invited to the film premier

>>85072155
>remember that RT is a piece of shit that doesn't matter supported by cuckold liberals owned by the Jewish media.
Warner Bros (which is head by a Japanese guy) and Fandango own RT.

>>85072261
Maybe you just have bad taste anon.
>found birdman disappointing
Yeah that's looking to be true

>>85072512

You just know Moviebob is going to point out how the embargo is 1 day before release.

>>85072442
Why do I care what some games PR fag thinks?

>>85070515
I'm gonna say 82%, helped by the fact that BvS set the bar so low.

Can't wait for Flashpoint in a couple of years.

>>85072542
>found birdman disappointing
>Yeah that's looking to be true
It was pretentious and seemingly just an excuse to try show off some film school lessons learnt. Yet funny enough it still failed. It was deceptive at best in its advertising and none of the characters were at all interesting.

>>85072442

>Fuck Marvel indeed

>>85072366
Best was probably every moment Captain Boomerang is on screen, the delightful cunt

Worst was probably the pacing. or maybe the fact that the timeline of events makes little sense. Or maybe that Slipknot isn't introduced with the rest of the cast, suddenly appears then dies like a minute later.

>>85072628
Also

>replying to the worst /co/ tripfag

>>85070515
At worst 50-60%
At best ~75%

Leaning more toward the worst because I'm cynical and my opinions are usually wrong

>>85072651
All tripfags are equally bad

>>85072632
>the pacing
>or maybe the fact that the timeline of events makes little sense
here we go again

>>85072636
Question, did he like BvS? If the answer is yes, then I'll probably enjoy Hot Topic Squad.

>>85072106
>r/DC_Cinematic

Those are the most hardcore of DCEU fans and mostly people who think that BvS was legitimately great. It's not exactly the pool you want to be pulling from.

>>85072636
>DCEU subreddit
>matter

I see. I'll probably like the movie anyways so I still don't care.

>>85072632
>it's a "WB fucks with the pacing and then releases a Director's Cut" episode again
I'm over it familia.

>>85072685
The events they're responding to start at night. Next we see them assembling the squad, then the squad outside Midway at sundown. The rest of the movie takes place at night, supposedly three days after the initial incident. Not the worst issue in the world, but not great.

As for pacing, much like the time given to each squad member, it felt very unbalanced.

So does this version of Croc have prior history with Batman? Was he a hired thug for Joker briefly like in Azz's book?

>>85070515
45-55%

People will have BvS in mind when seeing and reviewing, for better or worse.

>>85070515
It's fucking rotten tomatoes

Anything not left leaning gets shit scores, they'd give shit scores for SS being too dark, serious and mean

>>85072763
Really? I didn't have a problem with the pacing. I mean I guess compared to BvS its pacing problems aren't nearly as bad.

>>85072763

Oh it's one of those "let's have things out of order" movie.

I can follow that, but don't know if I can say the same about the majority of film critics. I'll be expecting a lower score than deserved from most of them now.

>>85072604
>It was pretentious
Meme word.

>seemingly just an excuse to try show off some film school lessons learnt.
Yeah bro, flawlessly making the movie look like it'a done in a single take is something everyone can do. Especially in the world of Hollywood where there are 8 cuts per minute.

>It was deceptive at best in its advertising
It wasn't a comedy-drama?

>and none of the characters were at all interesting.
They're more interesting than any character in a superhero film in the past 5 years.

>>85072763
How is time passing a pacing issue? It's night, then day, then night again. It happens.

>>85072848
>SS being too dark, serious and mean
Everyone is saying the movie is pretty light and quipfilled though.

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Who else here ready for it to go "not muh marvel" to "stop aping muh marvel"

>>85072317
The reality is BvS was pretty good. It was just so wildly different then the Marvel, FoX-Men films that it never had a chance. There's no need to even go down the "ppl r stupid" road. People were not expecting such a macabre film. They expected something like Cap 3, and instead they got fucking Excalibur.

Granted WB fucked up big time by not forcing the 3hr cut. the Ultimate Edition was deff way better, minus the editing fuck up at the funeral. It literally went:
Funeral>Bruce Diana talk off to the side of the funeral>bats terrorizes Luthor>cut to Bruce walking away from the funeral then more funeral
Bad editing there.

Anyways BvS Ultimate is really a peak cape flick like Winter Soldier, Unbreakable, Guardians, DoFP.

I am hoping Squad is as good as those films. It took a long time, but I am finally acclimated to the casting choices. The aesthetics never bothered me, I mean hell look at the Assault on Arkham designs.

>>85072808
They mention offhandedly about the Bat bringing him in, buts unclear what laws he actually broke

>>85072870
The weird cold open where we meet Deadshot and Harley followed by the Waller at Dinner framing device for the intro montage that was too long bothered me mostly. And the soundtrack was good but they basically blow it's load in the first half, and the second half is basically all score. But yeah, not as bad as theatrical BvS, but worse than Ultimate BvS.

>>85072885
>Meme word.
That's not an argument, it's an actual word. "attempting to impress by affecting greater importance or merit than is actually possessed.". There you go.

>Yeah bro, flawlessly making the movie look like it'a done in a single take is something everyone can do.
Except they didn't they abandoned it 30 mins in and even in that time they used people walking in front of the camera or the camera panning behind an object to reset the scene. Also, what was the point? Why use that film technique? How did that help them tell the story? It didn't, they just tried to show off and they didn't pull it off.

>It was deceptive at best in its advertising
The trailers showed a massive portion of his delusions as if it was actual content. To be clear, they blew the budget on a dream sequence just to put it in the trailer.

>They're more interesting than any character in a superhero film in the past 5 years.
That's not an argument.

>>85072905
That wasn't my pacing issue, that was my timeline issue (because it seems like only one day has passed but it's been apparently three?).

>>85072916
>The reality is BvS was pretty good.

Not really. It was poorly written, the plot was dumb, poor performances, and worse of all boring.

It's a waste of peoples time.

>>85072916
>This much delusion

>>85070515
my digit

>>85072907
It looks dark so critics will complain that it's dark

>>85072990
>It was poorly written
how so

>the plot was dumb
Thats subjective so not an actual point of criticism

>poor performances
Thats a lie

>worse of all boring.
Again, subjective

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Honest review! Just back from the premiere. I liked Joker, but there was something wrong with Harley. She wasn't anything like she was from the 90s cartoon when I was a kid! They showed her skin for some reason and as a gentleman, I believe less is MORE! I also liked that they turned Deadshot black and let him date the white guy. This is actually just like a lot of my erotic fan fictions.

It wasn't Marvel level of quality, but DC are getting there.

>>85073014
>14%
WB and DC might as well kill themselves now

>>85072916
>The reality is BvS was pretty good.
But as a movie? Look, I liked it, but I love DC stuff so a lot of things I enjoyed were simple nostolgia pokes.

As a movie it was really poorly put together. 2 acts of exposition, weak character arcs, poor scene transitions (beach -> africa -> metropolis) (batcave -> future -> speedforce -> daily planet). Lois existed purely for exposition and then took a right turn to damsel in distress. Conveying imagery or parallels took precedent over logic or sense (lady of the lake required Lois to drown herself for no real reason).

I can go on, as a movie, it was awful. As a DC fanfic, it was pretty good.

>>85072966
I think it was on par with ult BvS. I think it had the same problems as Deadpool where some jokes and dialogue was really forced and the main plot was pretty cliche. I honestly think it's the best DC film since TDK.

>>85072990
>poor performances
I take issue with this. The script was awful, but the core characters worked well with what they have. I do accept that Lex is divisive though.

>>85072916
Watched Excalibur a few days ago, was fucking awesome. Has in common with BvS that it takes all its fantastical bullshit totally seriously, people prefer a wink and a nod nowadays. Hopefully once Atlantis and the Amazons are in the mix with Justice League Snyder can make something that amazing.

>>85073057
I'd probably agree it's better than MoS and TDKR, but I preferred BvS ultimate over this less funny and less heartfelt GotG by way of Hot Topic

>>85073093
By the time atlantis hits Snyder will be out the door.

>>85073041
>Marvel level of quality
That's really funny. BvS is shit, but still better than half of MCU movies, like Thor-2 or IM3

>>85072916
Look man, it's fine if you liked the movie, but don't try to convince me it's great by any means.

I enjoyed X-Men Apocalypse, that doesn't mean it was a good movie.

>>85073041
I like you Rooney.

>>85073125
>That's really funny. BvS is shit, but still better than half of MCU movies, like Thor-2 or IM3
Let's not company wars anon.

>>85073125
lol who cares about thor

>>85073041
>and let him date the white guy

Progressive.

>>85072990
>>85072991
That's all opinion. And I am not delusional, I was stating my opinion.

But what I said that is pure fact is that the world see superheroes and thinks Disney's Avengers, and Fox's X-Men. That is why every casual you meet, that enjoys those movies, was saying/asking shit like "oh man I can't wait till Spiderman/Wolverine is in one of these" without knowing they are/were Sony and Fox.

Your delusional if you think people went into BvS with an open mind, yourselves included.

No one expected Excalibur. it was a good surprise. I was just as pleased as when Winter Soldier came out.

Kevin Smith liked it (skwad). Which doesn't mean anything!

>>85073116
Well Aquaman is in Justice League, which has other Atlantians in it as well, so presumably we'll get some scenes set there.

>>85073111
Am I the only one who thought GOTG came off really hollow and cynical?

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>>85073155
I still like the first Thor even if it was wasted potential for the property

>>85073175
>But what I said that is pure fact is that the world see superheroes and thinks Disney's Avengers, and Fox's X-Me
[Citation needed]

>>85073177
I mean he REALLY didn't like BvS. But I guess a couple days later he admitted he like watching it with Jay.

>>85073152
Okay, my bad. Well, when will reviews drop?

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>>85073142
I like you too, /co/.

>>85073208
If you thought GotG was hollow and cynical, I genuinely can't wait to hear what you think of Skwad.

>>85073131
>>85073052
Nah BvS is a perfectly fine film. A few flaws, but good as fuck. Idk how people didn't find the Martha shit as touching. Same way I thought MOS pa Kent was incredibly loving of Clark.

I just disagree sorry.

PS liked apocalypse but it was easily the weakest I'm the first class trilogy

>>85073225
He had to force himself to like it and in the end his verdict as, and I quote, "I liked the movie despite itself".

Which I think it a pretty good description. This is me here >>85073052

It's a terribly put together movie, but trinity on screen, bats vs supes, speed force, parademons, it's enough to at least tickle a fanboy.

BvS is a damn shame considering what it could have been

>>85070078
I'm cautiously optimistic.

>>85072442
Who?

>>85073273
Don't lump me in with these moviefags who don't even read comics.

>>85073177
It means absolutely nothing

>>85073250
About 12 hours. But people have seen it, so lots of them already floating about.

>>85073292
Same here. Looking forward to Friday

>>85073285
Is this bait? I honestly can't tell anymore with Snyder apologists.

>>85073225
He really doesn't like it. He and Bernardin reviewed the Ultimate Cut and you can tell he doesn't like the movie. He likes some things about it, but as a whole he really dislikes it. And that's coming from the biggest Batfag on the planet.

>>85073307
>Reading comics
You have to be 18 to post here, good sir!
What ongoings ya like?

>>85073301
Random guy on Leddit, his opinion counts because...reasons i guess?

>>85073285
Do you read comics? Do you know about parademons/darkseid/flash/speedforce/aquaman/wonder woman?

>>85073326
>liking something i don't like makes you an "apologist"

You guys are as autistic as gamers on forums. I see the same shit

>>85073356
>darkseid
That's Star Wars you casual. You just revealed your true colours.

>>85073333
Superman, Action Comics, Wonder Woman, Flash, Titans and Aquaman.

I'm a man of simple tastes.

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>>85073387
Simple but great taste.

>>85073379
Shut up faggot.

I'm slightly bothered by Batman being so cooperative with Waller.

>>85073412
Also reading Kingdom Come and Allstar Superman on the side. Life is bright.

>>85073425
They only interact once, and it's clear he doesn't like or trust her, but they both need each other for something.

>>85073422
Truth hurts don't it, bitch

>>85073093
Yeah man I can't believe I had never even heard about it until post BvS. It was a good movie. idk y but I love finding older films that hold up well. Like Jaws or the Godfather. I especially enjoy in older films how silent moments can be vs the sensory overload of modern films. I attribute it to a post MTV society, which is really funny because I love Snyder's films and he's a fucking trained in the art of music vids haha.

Excalibur was awesome though, I love films with two flawed protagonists.

>>85073290
This.
BvS had potential to be undisputable masterpiece. It could be next DK, but better, because it didn't struggled with "muh realsim" and had superior material to work with. Damn shame first appearence of two iconic superheroes on big screen will be associated with edgygrimdark shit and MARTHA thing.

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>>85073476
Are you quoting your Dad?

>>85073281
When I saw cynical I don't mean that I thought GotG was too dark, just that I thought it was too pleased with itself and was actually by the numbers.

>>85073503
What was so "Edgy" about it though, and why are people so triggered over the Martha thing?

>>85073503
It's the little things. Like the first time they meet on screen is a dream sequence where Superman kills Bats. That irks me.

Does anybody else want to go to theaters and protest against this movie? I think we've got time to start a movement to scare people off from seeing this piece of shit.

If this movie makes money it will do more damage to cinema than Michael Bay movies. We can't let every movie become an edgy shitfest and we need to make sure Damage Control never makes another movie.

I was thinking we could make signs that say things like "MOMS GONNA FREAK" and take pictures of edgy teens going to see it for public internet shaming. If we can make sure people are too embarrassed to go see it we can do a lot of damage.

>>85073518
Ah, right. Still, I'd say the attempts at being heartfelt in sqwad are similar, just not as emphasised.

>>85073561
feels good man

I bought 70$ worth of snacks just for this event. When do reviews go up again?

>>85073333
Wonder Woman (the Year One arc, not so much the other one)
Batman
Vision
Flintstones

Waiting on Trinity and Young Animal stuff to start.

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>>85073579
:^)

Same desu

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If Suicide Squad gets bad reviews like BvS, Grace Randolph is gonna go full Jesse Ventura with her conspiracy theories.

>>85073613
me on the right

>>85072968
>That's not an argument
Yeah it is. Randomly calling something "pretentious" doesn't mean anything. Hence it's a meme word.

>Except they didn't they abandoned it 30 mins in and even in that time they used people walking in front of the camera or the camera panning behind an object to reset the scene.
How are these negative things?

> Also, what was the point? Why use that film technique?
Keaton wanted to go into theatre to revitalize his career. The single-take look is meant to be much like a play and how they're done all at once with stage lights, stage exits and closing curtains to change scenes.

>It didn't, they just tried to show off and they didn't pull it off.
Some neckbeard on 4chan's opinion against the Academy giving it Best Director and Best Cinematography. I'm sure you have more merit.

>The trailers showed a massive portion of his delusions as if it was actual content. To be clear, they blew the budget on a dream sequence just to put it in the trailer.
It's pretty clear those are dream sequences and it's not advertising itself as a real superhero flick. Maybe you're just a retard? Did the tentacle monster in James Gunn's Super trailers get you "hyped" too?

>That's not an argument.
Learn what an argument is.

>>85073518
I found it to be less "by the numbers" than most Marvel fare, and Super hero fare at that. In fact that is the biggest reason i wasn't the "SKWAD" to succeed. Avengers and JL are great and all, but i am more interested in stuff like GOTG and SS and hope they lead to stuff like Outsiders, Doom Patrol and maybe NextWave movies getting made.

Since stuff like this tends to have lesser known characters ( as far as mainstream goes) they can take more chances and do more original or off kilter shit with them.

>>85073552
Do wannabe cinephiles wake up from nightmares every night yelling "Michael Bay!" I know this is copypasta, just commenting on the kneejerk derision Bay's name is shorthand for.

>>85073552
Protesters have too much free time which they could spend finding a real damn job

>>85073552
Would you kindly drink bleach. Thank you.

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>>85073620
Me on the left

>>85073582
Read the thread, fatty

>>85073614
She's so weird and kinda annoying, yet i can't stop watching her!

>>85073273
>he likes /co/

filtered

>>85073622
You seemingly don't want to or are unable to argue a point. You want to reassert that words are memes, call opinions you don't like neckbeard 4chan (with a nice appeal to authority fallacy).

>>85073673
She's thicc

>>85073624
>I found it to be less "by the numbers" than most Marvel fare
It's literally space Avengers

>Since stuff like this tends to have lesser known characters ( as far as mainstream goes) they can take more chances and do more original or off kilter shit with them.
Wacky dance offs and villains being inspired by instagram gangsters are definitely what capeshit needs

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>>85073691
How come, faggot

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http://www.filmdude.com.au/review/suicide-squad

>2.5/5

IT'S OVER, MARVEL WINS AGAIN

Movies good

>>85073356
DO I READ COMICS?!
Like I fucking bet if ur around my age (27) I have read tons and tons more then most people here. Especially Superman

Like without Googling what was Cir-Els last appearance? Who were the future Smith's? What was the name of Steels strongest armor?
Those aren't even that old of questions at that.

Like fuck man. I still have floppies of electric superman. Where did Blue Supes encounter Cyborg Supes???

Do I read comics

>>85073741
THIS CAN'T KEEP HAPPENING

it'll keep happening

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>>85073747
fuck off ya wiki readin eejit

>>85073741
>It's disappointing such striking visuals are wasted on a colourless plot and bland action. Death by boredom.

ROTTEN

>>85073702
Aaaand no rebuttals. You're done.

>>85073782
Madam Not-Appearing-In-This-Film

>>85073741

FUUUUUUUCCCCCKKKKKKKKKK

>>85073747
hehe you just walked into my ruse.

See. You read the comics. You know this stuff, a LOT of stuff wasn't introduced in the movie, it was just placed there. This was exceptionally jarring to your regular film goer. You can't have an unintroduced character time travel back from an unintroduced timeline fighting unintroduced creatures to deliver a message. You can't have the main title fight broken up by someone you don't know opening emails showing off more people you don't know. It's jarring, it doesn't flow. People weren't watching that and thinking "okay, Cyborg is now reacting to the motherbox, okay now the speed force is causing time to flicker near batman". They are thinking what the fuck is going on and why are we now reading emails even though batman and superman are standing on a roof angry at each other.

>>85073790
You didn't actually provide an argument anon. But, yes, we are done. Someone who retreats immediately to logical fallacy, "hurr durr 4chan" and memepseak isn't actually worth talking to.

>>85073741
Is he on RT?

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>>85073741

BRUTAL
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>>85073741
Holy shit. I guess tomorrow morning is going to be an encore of the day the BVS reviews dropped. So much asshurt and denial is in store.

>>85073827
I honestly don't know if you and >>85073747
posts are copypastas because that's what they seem like

The entire DCEU is depressing at this point

>>85073741
You can LITERALLY post this same paragraph long "review" onto any fucking movie in existance

This dipshit didnt see it

>>85073741

Ah well

>>85073855

Yes

>>85073741
>Filmdude

>>85073881
Because?

Suicide Squad on Suicide Watch

>>85070515
40%

The only thing people will like about it is the fact that there's some quips.

>>85073878
>denial
It begins.
>>85073883

>>85073741

What the hell did you people expect with the embargo s close to the release date?

>>85073741
HOLY SHIT AUSTRALIA IS FUCKING SAVAGE DKEKS ON SUICIDE WATCH

>>85073905
Both posts are pretty cringey and usually the cringey stuff is copypastas

>>85071967
This. Marvel has critics in their pocket; it's the same as in comics.

Does anybody have that article where the critic realized she was shitting all over DC You for not having enough diversity when Marvel was cancelling their only two female led books?

It's the same with movies.

Sooner or later respected journalist swill come out against the anti DC bias in the media

>>85073943

WB does that for a lot of it's films

>>85073970
All Dkeks have is Grace Randolph and she's crazy.

>>85073960
I was post 2, not trying to be pasta but I expected the guy to respond "I read comics" but he launched into a full tirade about knowing them inside out, which I thought was funny and played right into the point I was making.

I love /co/ when a new movie comes out, it becomes /cpnywars/ I love it, I especially love the guys that want to see the film be received poorly and bomb they are renegades. So badass.

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>>85073976

They did it for Tarzan....

>>85073961
No because marvel cancelling those female led books happened before DCYou.

What there actually was were some people realizing that marvel had very little female writers and minority writers while DCYou was full of them.

>>85073961
I put no stake in critics. Only because I don't find that they represent me. I'm seeing a lot of "Suicide squad has a wonderfully diverse cast", that means nothing to me. For example.

>>85071967
On point. I don't really follow comic reviews, but film critics just love Marvel movies and all the 'fun' it has is basically a high to them where they just ignore everything else. There is a bias with Marvel and if anyone says it they're immediately bombarded with
>lel dcuck

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>>85073775
Let's wind the clock back to 2008: These critics and audiences wouldn't dare cross any of you, so what happened? Did your balls drop off? I know why you choose to have your "group therapy" threads before the reviews go up, I know why you're afraid to open rottentomatoes.com: Zack Snyder. Zack Snyder has hid your true colors.

>>85073996
Your's ain't too bad compared to the first guy. It was really just the first line of "hehe you fell into my ruse." Just reminds me of the whole "tshh, nothing personal.... kid" meme

>>85074029
Marvel has majority share in comics, so a lot of time Marvel fans just overwhelm other opinions. Recently though (rebirth), DC has been doing fantastically in almost every regard, so it's near impossible to shit on them.

>>85074026

I don't care much for critics after Ghostbusters

Review threads are the best. So much fun!

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>>85074029
This delusion, it's delicious.

>>85074069
>Hivemind idiots shitting on Bay because they're supposed to.

>>85073626
>>85073643
>>85073647

Samefag

http://sowizardpodcast.com/2016/08/movie-review-suicide-squad/
4/5 here

>>85074071
That was a special case. People bumped up their scores to not be called misogynists or self-hating women.

so how many hours until the reviews drop?

>>85074109
DC IS SAVED

>>85074109
WHAT! A POSITIVE REVIEW FOR A DC MOVIE!? FUCKING SHILL AM I RIGHT!

>>85073741
This is the best day of my life. This is the day Cinema is saved from preteen edgelords and DC trash. WB will be out of business by next year and they will never poison cinema ever again.

>>85074086
People shit on Bay because he sucks.
The waning domestic box office on his movies shows that America is done with him and that he's only chinkbait now.

>>85074125
How does that not prove his point?

>>85073673
She's cute in that down-to-earth, relatable way because she's a little chubby and has nerdy interests.

>>85073614
I don't really watch her videos. What conspiracy theories?

>>85073741
Can we expect a decent 40%?

Someone look after the DC_cinematic folks, they're on suicide squad right now.

>>85073536
The Martha scene is terribly, TERRIBLY written. Nothing about it works at all.

>>85074132
11

>>85074158
13 Hours was dope as hell bruh.

>>85074132
They're dropping right now.

>>85074167

Nah. I think it will settle at about 65

>>85074109

Not on RT.

>>85074068
>Your's ain't too bad compared to the first guy. It was really just the first line of "hehe you fell into my ruse." Just reminds me of the whole "tshh, nothing personal.... kid" meme
lol yeah I was just laughing at his response.

>>85074174
Maybe you're just too dumb to get it.

>>85074171
>She's cute in that down-to-earth, relatable way because she's a little chubby and has nerdy interests.

Yeah i just like watching her react to stuff and the silly little comments she makes sometimes.

>>85074174
Martha scene is pure cinema.

>>85074174
I wouldn't call it terribly written more terribly executed. If they just made it more clear that Batman=Joe Chill and that shit with like visuals and that lot then it would've been fine imo

>>85074167
If $20 is a concern for you, I would say you probably don't make money, period.

>>85074070
Marvel has the most sales because Marvel produced like 4 times the comics of anyone else. They have the most sales because they spend the most money publishing comics.

>>85074208
>Less than 75%

So he will make money.

>>85074167
I can't see it having higher than a 75%

70% if WB gets lucky

>>85073741
Everyone replying to this instead of>>85074109


Wheres all the laughing Evans? Its clear youre in this thread so post youre Evans

https://twitter.com/raminsetoodeh/status/760334693359349760

>>85074216
Nah man not the same guy but as much as I defend the movie I do have to admit that scene was smart but handled poorly and would have been good if they did it right

>>85073536
It's a terribly conceived, written, and most importantly, acted scene. Other than that it's fine I suppose.

>>85074250
second one isn't RT

>>85074125
>critics will defend Ghostbusters even though it's trash
>but Marlel is totally getting by on their own merits

>>85074237

So they are getting more of their characters out there in the public. Only helps them long term.

>>85074250
I just don't understand why people are so invested in seeing this movie fail. Did Jared Leto rape someone's mother?

Explain it to me.

>>85074250

It's not RT.

>>85074272
So? Both are just opinions at the end of the day.

>>85074193
It's tasteless trash like American Sniper but worse because of Bay's childish tone.

>>85074295
it's either company wars or people not faithful in the franchise after BvS. I wouldn't care too much about the other side, it's like caring that Red fans aren't cheering for the Blue team after failing the first quarter.

>>85074270
>It's a terribly conceived, written, and most importantly, acted scene. Other than that it's fine I suppose.
I think it's very well conceived, the idea that Batman realizes at once what he has become and begins to unwind is great.

It was also acted well.

But the writing. Holy shit.

>>85074282
There's not much political stuff in Marvel casting yet.

>>85074283
>long term
>marvel
Just because it's a joke doesn't mean it's a good one

>>85074333
>it's like caring that Red fans aren't cheering for the Blue team after failing the first quarter
It's not. Because red explicitly versus and is against blue.

Marvel and DC just exist in the same space. I don't know why people bandwagon behind one and get involved in company wars.

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Predict the ratings

Imdb: 7.5 - 8.1
Rotten: 35%-60%
Box Office: 750 million

>>85074260
Who's this guy?

>>85074333
Good point. Just seems like a retarded waste of energy to me. Reminds me of Console Wars

>>85074310
So the extensive review (regardless of score) isnt an RT "approved" critic but the shitty 1 paragraph long one by FilmDUDE is

Gotcha

>>85074216
The lead-up to the scene fails in virtually every respect. But the scene itself fails by Superman using the name “Martha.” It's terribly forced and makes no sense at all. Snyder only needed Superman to say Martha because otherwise the scene wouldn't work.

Why would he use her name and not say, “Save my mom”? Why would asking Batman to save a mother from death not carry the same weight?
Also, there's no reason for Superman to believe the word “Martha” would have any impact on Batman, while mentioning a mother could, because (in theory) everyone has a mother.
Martha only works because Snyder needs it to, not because it does. And that's why it's rightly mocked.

But I think the whole thing falls down when Superman fails to simply ask Batman for his help to save his mother, and when Batman threatens, Superman mo ves in to fight/be harmed rather than fly above until Batman calms down. But if Superman didn't do that, we wouldn't have been able to see a kewl, X-Treme bad-ass fight!

>>85074374
6.5

45-55%

450-500 million

>>85074372
I'm not saying to bandwagon, or at least that's what I tried to mean. I'm just saying that you shouldn't be too effected by people who obviously have a bias.

>>85074337
>It was also acted well.

>"WHAT'S DOES THAT MEAN? WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME? WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME?"
>"It's his mommy's name!"
>"ARRRRGGGH"
>awkwardly pats Superman on the back and nods at him that he's going to save Ma Kent

'no'

>>85074374
I don't see it hitting 700m. It won't have the word of mouth that Deadpool had, I see the third week drop being pretty harsh. I still think it will hit well above 550m.

>>85074374
Imdb: 7-7.5
RT: 50-60%
Box office: 600 million

Can someone confirm the date and time the embargo lists, I've seen 4 or 5 different times

>>85074415
That's bad writing. You just referenced the script as evidence against acting, please learn the difference.

>>85074382
Great way to sum up rotten tomatoes ( and Metacritic in general) not sure why people treat it as Gospel. Avatar is in the low mid 80's on RT and i fucking hated that movie

>>85074382
There's regular critics and there's top critics for RT. They're not made equal, butthurt DCuck.

Getting ready to listed to "Komm, süsser Tod " after the reviews drop. I'm gonna relieve the feelings I felt when the BvS Embargo dropped. Constantly refreshing the RT Page wishing it would go higher then getting rapidly more and more depressed as it drops.

>>85074402
>Snyder only needed Superman to say Martha because otherwise the scene wouldn't work.

And by "Snyder" you mean Terrio and Goyer as they wrote the fucking thing

>>85074464
They're not paid equal either ya dopey eejit.

>>85074472
But why? I don't get the RT obsession people have all of a sudden.

>>85074450
Here? For trolling ammo.
Irl because people are idiots.

>>85074326
American Sniper was also good.

>>85074478
Stop blaming these terrible movies on the writer. First it was Goyer, now it's Terrio (who was supposed to save this movie) It's very clear at this point that Snyder has input in these movies and approves this awful writing.

>>85074374
>IMDB: 2.5
>Rotten: 35%
>BO: 130 mil worldwide

This has been a bad year for bad movies. Damage Control is dead.

>>85074447
I didn't know Bruce's melodramatic screaming and 180 shift in emotion was writing and not acting

Or wait, it is, idiot.

>>85074464
>Filmdude
>top critic

KEK
Never even heard of him before just now.

>>85074500

It's been elevated to gospel. I honestly stopped caring about it when I saw it used for promo purposes

>>85074500
>But why? I don't get the RT obsession people have all of a sudden.
Helps push an agenda. People rally behind it when it agrees with their opinion and shun it when it doesn't.

>>85074482
What does RT have to do with that?

>>85074472
I'm going to celebrate as it goes lower. This movie will be the final nail in the coffin for DC and I'm going to laugh and laugh.

>>85074521
>>BO: 130 mil worldwide

No need to be delusional

>>85074524
>I didn't know Bruce's melodramatic screaming and 180 shift in emotion was writing and not acting
I know you didn't, that's why I'm informing you.

If the script calls for Batmans character to enter the scene ready to kill Supes and leave the scene ready to save his mother and also has the dialogue he must speak as he does this, his hands as an actor are effectively tied.

>>85074519
>Burgerland

>>85074520
>Stop blaming these terrible movies on the writer.
WUT?
Even if they got rid of Zack Snyder today, guess what sport? If they kept the same writers they will have the same fucking problems.

>>85074559
For movies maybe, the comic area actually fine but no one cares for that on the comics and cartoon board

>>85074559

Why?

>>85074374
7

55%

Eh... anywhere from 400 million to 500 million.

>>85074546
>>85074537
So basically Metacritic for Console warriors.

>>85074524
Melodrama isn't a bad thing necessarily you know, especially in heightened situations like in Superhero movies. The people who say this are the same people who think Nicolas Cage is a bad actor just because he often isn't naturalistic in his choices.

>>85074567
I don't think it'll be much less. There's enough people willing to see bad movies to push it over 100 mil, but it'll drop like a fucking rock after opening night.

>>85074600
4chan doesn't have a comics and cartoon board.

>>85074624
>So basically Metacritic for Console warriors.
Yeah. That's all it is. You can actually drill down and read the reviews and see how shallow some of them are.

Things like "BvS was misogynistic" or "Marvel does it better". I don't consider something like that valid but it all counts towards this score. I'm pretty sure Ghost Busters got a fresh rating with a comment like "hehe to haha to lol".

That's not a fucking review.

>>85074642

You're a fucking idiot mate

>>85074600
Nobody cares about a dead medium.

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>RT after Ghostbusters 2016

>>85074374
Imb4 pointless
64%
145 ow/825ww

>>85074588
>Thinking American Sniper was pro-war

Come on dude.

>>85074402
>Why would he use her name and not say, “Save my mom”?
Because her name is Martha.

>Also, there's no reason for Superman to believe the word “Martha” would have any impact on Batman
Clark is an investigative reporter. He knows Batman is Bruce Wayne. Consequently, he knows Bruce's parents were killed in front of him, because it was on the news.

>>85074661

That was also from a "Top critic"

>>85074614
Because they make shit movies

Ghost = critics
571 = Suicide Squad

https://youtu.be/Fu3UmiP5FWI

>>85074519
it was one of Clint's weakest efforts thats for sure

>>85074697

So you lose out because you don't get to see a good movie

>>85074524
it literally is though

the yell was written into the script

the 180 shift in emotion was written into the script

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>>85074661
>Ghost Busters got a fresh rating with a comment like "hehe to haha to lol".
I believed that was a memeshop that someone from /tv/ did...it was not.

>>85074578
>I know you didn't, that's why I'm informing you.
hurrrrrrrr

Bad writing, bad acting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJfIg8fXM-w

>>85074640
Nick Cage is fucking terrible unless he's used in the correct role.

>>85074706
It was no Unforgiven or The Outlaw Josey Wales, but it did have thematic concerns in common with them.

>>85074729
And both are portrayed badly by Ben Affleck.

>>85074749
Nicolas Cage is one of the best living actors. But there's no way to convince you because everyone has a different aesthetic criteria for good acting.

>>85074524
Why is the shift in emotion so bad? It's a revelation, he's supposed to be shocked.

>>85074772
They totally aren't.

What makes the portrayal so bad?

>>85074733
It's not. Lot's like it are real. This is why I will pay no heed to RT. I called it at the top of the thread that RT will be populated with people still wanted to have a go at BvS or Leto's joker not being Ledgers. But none of that actually has anything to do with this movie.

"It's glorious, and if it ruined your childhood, sorry bro."

"Ghostbusters is a gleeful shut-down of the online naysayers who were so offended by the idea that women could fight ghosts."

"It's funny, and nuanced in its funniness: hehs to haaaaaaas to lols."

"I was never bored with it..."

That is your Ghost Busters "fresh reviews". I do not consider those valid.

>>85074802
Nic Cage is every terrible acting student who start out by exaggerating every action they do.

>>85074850
God I never considered actually reading those fresh "reviews". I'm glad I didn't.

>>85074902
Next time you see people flashing RT scores, remember that this is what they are standing behind.

>>85074826
I never saw American Sniper.

Does he just shoot a bunch of child soldiers in the movie?

>>85074833
>>85074839
It's not a shock that Superman has a mother (and before you say it's supposed to be Martha's name that makes him stop, it's actually Lois Lane's "it's his mommy" that makes Bruce stop). He mentioned Superman's parents before killing him.

He's screaming like Eddie Redmayne did in Jupiter Ascending. And let me see if I can find that scene afterward where he "forgives" Superman, Affleck does not make it convincing.

>>85074928
eh if you try hard enough you can always find a so called "deeper" meaning like we can see with people making BvS infographs.

Still this movie is a satire of the biggest order only america would invade a country, kill a bunch of people and then make a movie about the "hero". But then again this movie will be seen as an interesting take on propaganda along the Pride of nation.

I came here hoping for a shitshow, followed by news that the film was gonna be at least decent.

Thanks to those of you who still think BvS is good, you made my night. Off to bed.

>>85074985
He shoots one, and his dislike of it is mentioned, but he cares more about protecting his fellow soldiers, which comes in conflict in the climax. Its a very simple movie, but isn't some propaganda piece like retards scream.

>>85073741
>"Suicide Squad" features a killer soundtrack and one of the most promising of ensemble casts, only for its execution to fail. It simply doesn't handle the large assortment of characters well, with only a few obvious highlights stealing the show from the much less-interesting other members, who falter in their limited screentime, secondary backstories and shoe-horned contributions to saving the world. It's disappointing such striking visuals are wasted on a colourless plot and bland action. Death by boredom.

Damn

>>85075095

It's like a dark mirror of his AoU review

>>85075151
Post his AoU review

>>85075030
>It's not a shock that Superman has a mother
It's a shock that Superman's mother is a normal lady with a name like "Martha" and that he's concerned for her safety.

>before you say it's supposed to be Martha's name that makes him stop, it's actually Lois Lane's "it's his mommy" that makes Bruce stop
Martha's name makes him stop. Lois' intervention convinces him to stop for good. If Lois had run in yelling "He has a mother, he has a mother!", Superman would have died. It's the combination of the two which defused the situation.

>>85075030
Alright I found it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oufremzw7d8&feature=youtu.be&t=3m59s
You can't chalk that up to bad writing alone.

>>85075095
>bland action

You had one job

>>85075095
I fucking KNEW this movie would squander its ensemble cast. I'll bet Deadshot and Harley have 70% of the screentime, with Boomerang getting %15 and the other Squad members fighting over the last 15%.

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>>85075244

Literally one guy. Let's just wait another 10 hours and then get mad

>>85075266
Why are some reviewers huge Marvel fanboys?

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God damn, you guys shit your pants over this critic stuff lol

>>85075181
>It's a shock that Superman's mother is a normal lady with a name like "Martha" and that he's concerned for her safety.
When was Batman briefed on those details before going after her?
Why would Superman wanting to save someone be surprising to Batman after complaining about Clark Kent writing about Superman every-time he saved someone?

>Martha's name makes him stop.
He clearly still going to kill him before Lane showed up.

> If Lois had run in yelling "He has a mother, he has a mother!"
That's what happened.

> It's the combination of the two which defused the situation.
It's retarded hack screenwriting and bad acting.

>>85075280

>So was I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEoCaHqxbdQ

>>85074642
The film is tracking for 150 million opening night. If you think it will make less than that after its full run world wide you are at another level of delusion

>>85075244
>I fucking KNEW this movie would squander its ensemble cast.
Evident by the fact that you're so convinced of it right now despite not seeing it
>oh but some guy on the internet that I've never met said so! I-It's not like he's said lots of stupid things on the past.
You people that have an agenda against this movie are really fucking...weird.

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>>85075266
...............
Were do they find these guys?

>>85075312

Literally who?

>>85075344

Australia

>>85075354
S-shut up!

>>85074070
Marvel usually has a market share of about 30%, not a majority, but they have such a large share due to them shipping 4 or 5 times the amount of books than everyone else. DC can have all their books in the top 20 or so, and still have a market share that's close to half of what Marvel has.

>>85075354
Literally the biggest DC fan on youtube

>>85075312
>mfw that shit didn't even worked on /tv/

>>85075409

Never heard of him until just now

>>85075425
That's because you don't know shit.

>>85075354

He's a huge shill for comic properties. Seems to love both DC and Marvel, but especially DC.