who could beat him?

Wally will

Sentry and don't even try to deal with it.

Also Superman
>inb4 Grant pls

me

Saint of Killers
Death of the Endless

>>84897238
they're like leagues above him

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>>84897214
>Grant pls

About to call it you sneaky fuck.

I have a feeling Morrison wont get near events that are truly relevant to rebirth anyways.

Whats John's relationship with Morrison anyways? are they pals?

>>84897309
They are buddies, Johns is just far more normie than him

>>84897309
>I have a feeling Morrison wont get near events that are truly relevant to rebirth anyways.
Is he even on any main DCU books now? Last I heard he was writing an Elsewords Batman book that involved Batmite.

>Whats John's relationship with Morrison anyways? are they pals?
Johns praised his writing on Kevin Smith's podcast, that's all I've heard.

Saitama

>>84897450
keep ur weeb trash away from muh american comics

>>84897422
He doesn't want to write ongoings right now. Working on Batman Black and White, Multiversity Too Flash, and WWEO v2 I think

>>84897476
>He doesn't want to write ongoings right now.
That's what I thought. Thanks.

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You think you know what being a God is like? How adorable.

>>84895177

Himself

>>84897292
oops i meant to reply to >>84897280

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>>84895177

>>84895177
Spectre

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>>84895177

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Batman

>>84897982
>you want I should bop you with this here lolipop?

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>>84898414
Goddamn it morrison i told you to fucking leave

>>84895177
Accelerator

we'll have to wait two years or so to find out, but i imagine superman is gonna hit him really hard

Let's see what he can do. Limited reality manipulation and hard too kill. Not all that powwrful, especially since he can't even alter the future.

Scarlet Witch.

>>84895177
Really any matter/energy manipulator.

matter eater lad will eat him

>>84898904
>reality

dude he's an atom manipulator and low-tier while we're at it

>>84898990
Fair enough. I mislabeled his power.

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>Dr Manhatten is low tier

What exactly sets Dr Manhatten apart from Molecule Man? It's literally the same power set, and Molecule Man is nigh-unstoppable in his universe.

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>>84895177

>>84895177
Ozymandas was able to make him vanish for a little bit. With enough time he could probably beat him.

>>84901721
Enough time? He planned that shit for years and the best he could come up with was "Let's try the thing that gave him super powers". That was his best shot.

>>84895177
No one.

He's pretty much a god.

>>84898904
>he can't even alter the future.
He just did. Like 2 months ago. Did you not read Rebirth?

>>84901548
Scale. Molecule Man casually operates on universal scale. Also anything that's, well, molecule, he can control down to tiniest particles nobody fucking knows about, he feels that shit.
His battle with Pre-retcon(s) og Beyonder wrecked havoc throughout the Multiverse. Only characters that operate outside the material realm can beat Owen. I can't say but suspect he's become the archetype of matter manipulator in comic books.

Also - he's a creation of Beyonders to blow up universes, but let's not go there.

>>84901548
Tier? Power Man has super-strength just like Superman yet it's literally comparing an ant to the sun. Molecule man seems retardedly powerful in a verse where no one else has power, but the stuff he did barely qualifies as basic parlor tricks to someone like Silver Surfer.

>>84902010
>molecule man
DR MANHATTAN GODDAMIT

Gold Experience Requiem
>inb4 people forget what site they're on and sperg out at me

>>84902010
>>84902041
lul

but yeah, basically. Manhattan hasn't done anything that puts him above low-herald tier like Terrax or that guy with swords (come on brain!) for example. I'm pretty sure he got into the position to affect DC by some bullshit asspull, OR they're going bananas with him, which I could get behind. Why not, eh?

>>84902197
In NuDC he doesn't just perceive all of time, he can manipulate it. He ends the New 52 universe and creates the Rebirth universe instead because he felt like it.

>>84902197
>that guy with swords
Red Shift?

>>84895177
A very clever writer.

>>84902747
Yeah, RIP during Annihilation iirc

>>84895177
With or without prep. time?

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Calvin and his amazing friends.

>>84902954
Master Bruce, what are you doing on /co/ again?

>>84902408
Rebirth isn't a new universe, it's still nu52verse.

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>>84902989

You can't 'beat' Dr Manhattan, it doesn't work like that, he exists at all points in time at once, if he ceases to be at some point of time, from his point of view it has already happened

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>>84895177

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Mark my words...he will return and beat Manhattan.

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>>84895177

>>84895177
You can't beat him. He's an un-killable autistic god.

>>84895177
Batman and co. punch him really hard.

>>84895177
Captain Carrot's gonna role up with the Zoo Crew and wreck his shit.

>>84897877

Q is just Manhattan when he gets a sense of humor back after getting out of his existential crisis.

>>84903178
Just punch him at every instance of time as well as punch time itself.

>>84903488
the way time works in Watchmen is intrinsically incompatible with that, the whole point of Manhattan's point of view is that he knows the immutable course of time that neither he nor anyone else can change, no matter how much they try

>>84903234
He fuckin better, dude bro supes was the man & he deserved better

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>>84895177
I'm pretty sure Silk Spectre beated his cock into submission.

>>84903701
she probably learned all about being beat into submission from her mother

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>>84903738
Jesus Christ

>>84903701
the fuck is going on with her inner thighs there?

>>84903881
It's really skin-tight "silk".

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>>84895177

Sup

>>84901659
didnt he go into an existential crisis after he ate to much

>>84901785
My memory must have been erased.

>>84904001
Definitely. Why do they make him so weak now though? It feels like he should be way stronger.

>>84904810

He ate someone whose entire essence was subject to quantum uncertainty of location, and the effect was magnified somehow through all the millions already contained in Alucard, to the effect that he was unable to maintain a physical form.

Naturally, he just comes back after spending thirty years killing all the souls inside of him except the one that made him disappear in the first place, meaning he now has omnipresence.

The entire series is comprised of people trying and failing to kill Alucard, it's wonderfully stupid.

>>84903881
I dunno, but it looks pretty good

>>84903203
Yeah Saitama's got it.

>>84905813
What do you mean? In Gotham by Midnight just him manifesting threatened to destroy most of Gotham.

>>84901659
>>84905815
>dude completely deppendant on quantum uncertainty
>beating someone who has quantum manipulation
Sure thing, lad.

Superman Prime I guess

>>84905925
kek

>>84906185

>>84895177
Dio

Johns is gonna have Superboy Prime kill him. Screencap this

Well Earth 4 Captain Atom died by having a black hole placed inside his Brain, so maybe that?

>>84895177
A lot depends on how much more powerful he has grown since the events of Watchmen.

We know he's been growing more powerful since he gained his powers. (with one of the side effects being him losing his touch to humanity)

If he can really warp reality now, then it's possible he's top tier level powerful.

>>84905997
>Manhattan gets fucked up by just some particles
>Fighting a supernatural being with soul absorption, who already regen'd from being blinked out of existence on a meta level

>>84901785
Nope. Frankly I think Watchmen existing in the main DC universe is stupid as hell. And in Watchmen he clearly states he can't change the future.

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>>84897280
Death never struck me as a fighter. More of a "This is an inevitability, so I don't care what you do before it" kind of gal.

>>84907482
>>Manhattan gets fucked up by just some particles
Tachyons are FAR beyond Alucard, and they only mess with his foresight. And it only took the world's smartest man spending billions of dollars for that to happen.
>Fighting a supernatural being with soul absorption
Has to drink blood. Which Doc doesn't have.
>who already regen'd from being blinked out of existence on a meta level
Who are you lying to here? If he was erased from existence then he wouldn't be able to kill of all of his souls.
Alucard wank is ridiculous. DIO is the superior vampire anyway, both as a character and in power.

>>84895177
The spectre.

In the Multiversity guidebook, the original Darkseid that died in Final Crisis escaped his tomb and is trying to rebuild himself after having his soul scatterd across the universe. Seems like a challenge even for the Doc

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>>84895177

>>84908542
what's UG limit?

>>84895177
An approprietly prepped Batman

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>>84895177
Is there any doubt

>>84903234
Superman, real Superman would defeat Dr Manhattan by showing him that humans are worth protecting and that working with a team is better than fucking off to the deepest reaches of the universe. Dr Manhattan has never met a real super hero with real morals and beliefs, just the gritty Watchmen

Why do you have to fight him to beat him?
Can't you just literally reason with him?
Isn't that basically what happened in the original story?

>>84903241
Too bad Numidium was defeated with an empty speech bubble.

>>84908779
Unstoppable if a child is in danger

>>84908779
Comedy, seriously.
Cartoon physics work on the rule of funny.

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>>84895177
Batman! We need you to go to Mars!

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>>84895177

>>84897309
must be a good enough friend with him to sell Geoff the drugs he took to come ups with the idea for rebirth

>>84895177
Captain atom

>>84897280
I don't think Death kills
She just greets you like an old friend.
And if you include Death, that means you assume Dream is in this. If Dream is in this, that means Lucifer is. And in Lucifer, we have the actual God.

>>84912243
We need you to rape Dr. Manhattan!

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A flurry of normal punches

Are we allowed to use stupidly overpowered villains?

YWach from Bleach.
>Power is "Almighty" which grants him the powers to manipulate time at will
>will choose a future which Dr Manhatten never got his powers

Boom.

(YWach is stupidly overpowered, Kubo is such a hack, fuck Bleach)

>>84913534
Honestly though, taking that seriously-Manhatten in his extended DLC limited edition bonus issues show him travelling to worlds and timelines where exactly that happened. Some of them sucked, others didn't.

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>>84895177
I think Johns showed us in the first issue of Rebirth who is gonna kick Osterman's ass back to Earth-Grimdark

>>84911564
The Toonforce is unbeatable. It's the whole reason Schuster made Mxy in the fucking Thirties.

Even back then they had enough insight to predict shit like this thread. The only reason Imps don't kill every hero and villain in DC is because it's more fun to play with 'em like action figures.

>>84913324
Death is just a universal fact. The logical conclusion to existence.

The character Death is just a point of view of death, but at the same time represents and includes the whole idea.

And Death is possibly greater than Lucifer and maybe even God, but that sort of depends the setting and even then at that point you're getting too metaphysical to really mean much.

Dr Manhattan is a small time reality manipulator. He shouldn't even have the power to mess with the DCU as a whole but John's is the writer who suddenly made him so fucking OP. Or maybe he just poked the timestream a bit to tweak things when Barry made it vulnerable during Flashpoint. That is more believable imo.

Before Rebirth the consensus was a more skilled reality manipulator could rek him completely. Fucking hell even Franklin Richards could destroy him or Thanos with the IG. A starbrand would destroy him to since the starbrand power was so dangerous the Living Tribunal quarantined the universe of its origin from the multiverse (This was before Hickman).

Also the starbrand destroyed a single Beyonder, those are like omnireality manipulators capable of toying with entire multiverses.

>>84914004
If u are a DC fag you have the Crisis era anti monitor capable of wiping out the multiverse.

Possibly superboy prime. Theoretically the justice alliance in multiversity who were created to take on multiversal threats.

New Gods are out of the question according to Johns apparently.

The Empty hand would wipe out Manhattan. His gentry alone would suffice and they were created with barely a fraction of his power.

>>84911993
That would be pretty fucking fantastic.

>>84895177
The Empty Hand.

>>84895177
Supersaiyan God Super Saiyan Goku
With speedforce
And added kryptonian dna
And Batman's intellect
And he's been turned into the hulk
And the Infinity Gauntlet

Is he overpowered yet?

>>84915064
But can he beat Uchiha Madara?

Prep time batman as always.

>>84915240

Which one?

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>>84915240
I dont know who that is or how powerful they are, other than they're probably a Naruto character or something, given that name.

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>>84915295
>>84915342
Definitely not just the Edo Tensei Madara, that's for sure

>>84901775
How about an actual god them?

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>>84895177

These two

>>84895177
his mom[spoiler/]

>>84895177
Jimmy Neutron with his cheese ray

>>84913823
>making God job
You'd make a bad writer.

>>84913768
Say, you don't belong here!

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>>84895177
Ozymandias lied to him, considering his inhumanity he is completely vulnerable for it. John Constantine probably can make dr.Manhattan do whatever he wants to do, cause you know he tricked Devil himself, JC is basically god of lie.

>>84895177
Minus, because death means nothing to her.

>>84895177
Saitama obviously

>>84895177
Nu52 Superman, who is in fact Superboy Prime, will defeat Dr Manhattan.

>>84895177
The One Above All, duh

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>>84920067
>saitama can defeat everyone
except a fly

>>84913823
Wouldn't say Death is greater or lesser, in fact I'd specifically say she's neither, or equal for that matter. She's just around to make sure Saitama gets to where he's supposed to go. Also God, Mxyzptlk and Popeye.

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>>84901659
>Having your ass handed to you by human

A FUCKING NOTHING

>>84913768
oh, fuck yes. make it happen DC.

How the fuck are they even going to deal with him when he has near omni-potence and can make New Gods just explode.

It's going to be the most boring fight in recent comic books history with everyone dog-piling him while he instagibs characters DC wants to rewrite.

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>can manipulate reality itself with enough fighting spirit
>larger than the observable universe
>also blue, shiny and naked
if we're sticking to comics solely then unfortunately squirrel girl

>>84913324
are you implying that there arent gods in the DCU?