So, if people doesn't like you/better than you at something,

>it's a /co/ defends an unequivocal asshole episode

>>84784913
well, duh, it's not very good
Yeah, I'm a two-dimensional asshole, but that doesn't mean professionals who get money for what they're storyboarding can write two-dimensional assholes!

>>84784868
>So, if people doesn't like you/better than you at something, that mean they're just haters who you should ignore?
ESL?

>>84784868
>So, if people doesn't like you/better than you at something, that mean they're just haters who you should ignore?
>if people doesn't like you
>/better than you

Uh? I don't think you actually watched this episode nor Alone Together.

The issue isn't Kevin not liking Stevonnie or being better than her. At all.

I think you should actually watch something before complaining about it.

>>84784868
It wasn't really about Kevin, but how Steven...a kid who had nothing but love for everyone...doesn't understand how to deal with not liking someone. It almost ruined one of the best things in his life before he came to grips with it.

But I agree with >>84784979 too. It wasn't handled well. I chalk it up do the 11 minute format.

>>84784868
look rape apologist, he raped stevonie, so he got off light, he should have been thrown in jail just for being a straight white cis male.

>>84784979
>>84785299
Sometimes, jerk who just enjoy being jerk are real too.

SU has a lot of complex character. This allow them to have more 2 dimensional character if only for the reason that those kind of person actually exist and can be fun to write too.

>>84785342
the problem is what they haven't used rape as a plot point, they've used allegory for rape as a plot point

>>84785342
Why would Greg go to jail?

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>>84785342
Who are you trying to b8 sweetie

>>84785256
>it turns out Stevenhas been holding a grudge over some one shot character that appeared for 40 seconds in a span of months.
That makes even less sense.

>>84785398
There is no allegory. Kevin is the literal representation of people being too forth coming and not taking an hint at being told NO several time. You don't need a rapist to ruin a good time. Sometimes a jerk will suffice.

And the way Stevonnie handle Kevin in the hand is the way you handle Jerk. You should definitely not Handle Rapist by just Ignoring them ans saying it doesn't matter with a smile to them afterward. At least I think so.

Kevin represent general asshole who think they are better than everyone, not Rapists.

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>>84785342
>white cis male.
>white
Is Kevin Argentinian?

What was the point of this episode? Other than to make some retarded statement about assholes and "muh rape culture"?

>>84785466
someone can ruin you day in less than 40 seconds.

Plus it was her first Fusion time with Connie and Kevin made sure to make himself remembered.

>>84785523
>and "muh rape culture"?
It's not about rape see >>84785485

>>84785523
>What was the point of this episode?
That you shouldn't let asshole ruin your day and Affect your decisions.

>>84784868
He's the only human in the show who is objectively an asshole.

>>84785591
Okay but how did it advance the plot in any way? Usually the filler episodes have at least some tiny bits of relevant stuff in them, this one just seemed completely unnecessary.

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I don't know what y'all niggas are on about. I'm all about believing in Steven, but I thought Beach City Drift was fun as hell with a clear yet natural feeling message.

>>84785644
It further explored Connie and Steven's relationship and their fusion.

It's also a kind of tying up episode, a conclusion to alone Together. Tying up the events of Alone together.

Also, cool racing and beautiful scenery.

>>84785644
Character building, Steven learning how to not let his anger get the best out of him.

>>84785644
It established that Ronaldo is no longer the worst.

>>84784868
episode was boring as fuck, there were a few good moments(like the stepped on something line and response was pretty good) but overall it didn't connect to me at all. Sometimes it's hard being a CIS white male.

>>84786506
I didn't expect them animating Stevonnie actually shifting hears, pulling the parking break, and then drifting. I figured it would just be
>turn key
>go forward really fast
> finish line
With the music, it was a fun as heck episode.

I liked the vistas, the dynamic depth of field shot, and the cars taking that turn as seen through a mirror.

Was Peridot autistic

>>84785465
(You)

>>84786656
>Amy talking right to Peridot's face
>Peridot ignoring her and retreating into her obsession with a singular object
>only forced out of her obsession when the object is physically ripped from her grasp
>freaks out because her object is gone
Literally yes.

>>84784868
>So, if people doesn't like you/better than you at something, that mean they're just haters who you should ignore?
Yes?

Of they're just a-holes and not apporting anything useful why should you pay attention to them? It's a waste of their talent.

>>84784868
>This episode is shit because it paints someone bad who is also A MAAAAAAAAAAAAALE

Geez why don't you just marry Marty and Kevin at the same time OP.

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>>84785523
What was the point of Beach City Drift? The point was that you shouldn't let yourself obsess over the existence of assholes. Also racing.

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>>84785656
I liked it too, just ignore pointless assholes and don't let them fuck your mood.

>>84786976
That's an advice several anons should take to improve their experience in 4chan.

Believe it or not some people are assholes simply because they want to be, and the best thing to do is ignore these types of people and deprive them of enjoying your reaction to their assholeness.

>>84784868
The message was more "don't let dicks get to you" more than "don't listen to haters"

>>84788077
Which is precisely the wrong message for this generation to hear.

>>84788154
What? I would have thought a healthy turn towards stoicism would be welcome nowadays

>>84786506

What the fuck does "being le cis white male" have to do with anything, seriously you people have your heads stuck so deep up your asses with the whole "everything ever is sjw" bullshit it's unbelievable.

Kevin is supposed to be a narcisstic, machiavellian douchebag who takes people for granted and has no real regard for how his quest for prestige and satisfying his overblown ego affects them. It has nothing to do with him being a "cis white male".

SU isn't some kind of sjw propaganda tool just because the cartoon's message is centered around mutual respect (live and let live) within themes that are often associated with the stereotypical tumblrina, what with the gay space rocks et al.

While some of the more batshit insane feminazi tumblrites are pretty fucking messed up, people who instantly jump the "OMG LE SJW" gun whenever they can are the most fucking annoying thing in existence at this point.

The whole point of the episode is that if someone's rustling your willies to no end, you should just be sensible about it and realize that there are many better things to do in life than obsessing over getting back at assholes. Not sure about you, but to me it sounds like a great and much needed lesson to teach kids nowadays AND the exact opposite of "hey kids, you should like, totally be militant SJW's!"

>>84788154
You're retarded.

>>84788306
Mutual respect is a meme, there is only superiority and inferiority.

>>84789199
Even then its fruitless to pay attention to jerks wasting their talents on jerking. You can do more productive stuff with your time.

It relates to what Amethist said a couole episodes before about stop focusing on wnat you can't do and enjoy the stuff that you can.

>>84785599
Lars says hi.

kevin is a fucking dream boat

>>84784868
He's TV tropes "jerk with a heart of jerk".

>>84788182
>>84788321
Ignore dicks is an entirely different message from something like "assholes can be right, but ignore the asshole part". There's nothing stoic about just ignoring dicks/assholes because the tone of the message does not affect the truth of the message.

>>84789742
Being a dick does not automatically make you right.

>>84789742
>Ignore dicks is an entirely different message from something like "assholes can be right, but ignore the asshole part".
Right about what? Christ, fuck off if you don't actually watch the show.

>>84789742

What message was Kevin delivering ? The episode wasn't about Stevonnie debating Kevin on an imageboard, it was about Steven not moving on and trying to vent his anger via street race. There's nothing about messages.

i cant wait for the next episode so you folks stop talking about this one

>>84784868
If someone constantly antagonizes you, you should ignore them. That was the lesson.
In real life, it's socially acceptable to tell them to fuck off, depending on the circumstances it's even "legal" to assault them if the harassment is continuous.

>>84789742
Actually, they did realize Kevin was right, in the sense that they admitted that they WERE obsessed with him. So the lesson you're suggesting is actually the one they conveyed.

>>84784868
That wasn't the point at all, though.

In Alone Together, Kevin's supposedly horrible sin was persistently trying to get Stevonnie to dance with him. Rather than firmly set her foot down on not dancing, she instead decided to try and embarrass him on the dance floor instead, striking back at him.

And it seemed to work, and they unfused and he ran off and they seemed fine. But we learned in this episode that they weren't fine. That they held a grudge, probably pinning on Kevin all of the stress they had already been feeling that evening because of Connie's social issues. So they try to strike out at Kevin once more, try to punish him, but instead his smack talk aggravates them even more, and they become more and more obsessed.

The point, the moral, was that they needed closure, not vengeance. That ultimately they are responsible for how they feel, not someone else. And after they released their need to strike back at Kevin, they were able to start feeling better, and able to enjoy themselves again.

>>84785513
nose isn't big enough, not enough "che"s in his speech either.

>>84785656
>steal Greg's car
>drive it without license
>no repercussions
>implying anything about this is natural

>>84790100
except they still had this triumphant bullshit where they beat him and HE became the one acting immaturely

>>84784913
well he is funny

>>84790954
so basically the lesson is
You can blame your short comings on someone else, and even hate them instead of realizing your own problems?
SJW Universe strikes again!

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why does Kevin have the same color scheme as Stevonnie?
is he representing Steven's hidden masculine (but bad!) side?
and him overcoming Kevin is symbolic of Steven learning to not be a man? rather embrace his full femininity as Stevonnie?

>>84792990
He was a douche, then they stopped letting him get to them; then he kept trying. So they won. Don't know what else to tell you.

>>84793374
Connie - Steven
C - Even
Ceven
Kevin

>>84793024
Assholes are often funny.

>>84788306
It's funny they keep banging the 'evil SJW' card when the most level headed and all around decent character in the show is one of those evil 'CIS white males'.

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>>84793655
it makes perfect sense now
Kevin also has the ability to get in someone's head (but not literally, only because he knows how to fuck with people and the people he fucks with obsess over him)
Steven however has the literal ability to do so
they both use this skill to manipulate people for their own game
Kevin is just like Steven, but also so opposite


up until now all of Steven's battles have been up against simple problems in life, corrupted gems, and some home world gems

Kevin has been the only problem that has caused Steven to think differently, someone that bent his will, not someone like Peridot he thought he could change, or someone like Jasper that was just another angry monster that wanted to punch him. Even Lars who's also a dick never caused Steven to think differently

people say its out of character that Steven acted differently with Kevin, but really its something very interesting

a bad villain is just a monster of the week, a good villain is 3 dimensional, but a great villain is thematically different but also very similar

evidence? just look at the most memorable villains in media.

Kevin is oddly the best antagonist in all of Steven Universe


but maybe i'm jsut over thinking this, i shouldn't really think the writers of Steven Universe are this clever

I WANT TO FUCK KEVIN

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>mfw all of /co/ wishes they could be as cool and successful as Kevin.

>>84795826
You REALLY shouldn't. And I would argue that SU demonstrates good writing more often than not. In the case of Kevin, though, they assume the audience sympathizes with Steven and Connie's feelings about Kevin more than actually formed their own opinion based on Kevin's direct actions.

Kevin, by and large, did nothing wrong. He was insistent about getting a pretty girl to dance with him, and then he talked trash during an illegal street race. The latter of which is COMPLETELY socially acceptable in that scenario. I'm not about to argue that he's a good person, but the punishment doesn't fit the crime. Especially in a series that also features villains bent on genocide.

>>84793374
Tbh this is the impression I got.
Steven's a feminine male so Stevonie becomes predominantly female. They ended up secretly craving the dick for an alpha like Kevin and that's their sense of violation.

>>84784868
Hes just a douchebag anon they are incapable of fathoming that humans can hate them beyond being envious of them.

>>84785465
>dat steven berserk crossover

i love the internet sometimes

>>84796421
he knows people hate him, he just thinks it's funny
he probably doesn't even live in Beach City but likes to come to small towns to fuck with the locals

IRL it doesn't work like that, but it's cute anyway

>>>/wsg/1205187

>>84796828
Fuck haters. I was not expecting them actually showing this kind of shit in a racing episode and I loved it. I also loved the music and the unique shots we got.

>>84796828
loved the initial d stuff. this show man

>>84796149
>Kevin, by and large, did nothing wrong.

Bullshit. They made it pretty obvious that the guy is a condescending prick 100% of the time. He insults Greg multiple times, causing Steven to get pissed, then drives off without paying for the service.

>the punishment doesn't fit the crime

Which is the completely obvious point of the episode. Dude's a total jerk but raging about it is not the right response. Steven is being a chump for letting a guy get under his skin like that, he needs to learn to keep his emotions in check like Greg does when Kevin commits petty theft.

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>>84797930
he's charming, everyone knows if you're charming its okay to be a dick

>>84785513
I feel like he's some sort of South Asian. Either way he's fucking hot.

>>84798098
If he's so charming how come nobody is charmed by him??

>>84791402
His dad was a rockstar that lived in his van since he was 21 years old. Greg probably did shit like this on the regular growing up.

If Greg found out he'd just ask if anyone got hurt.

>>84784868
>So, if people doesn't like you/better than you at something, that mean they're just haters who you should ignore?
Then what the fuck would you do in Stevonie's position?

>>84785523
To remind us that the show has more important side characters to focus on rather than feature more on the mystical cyborg alien invading amazons led by Galactus sized bitches that the show could be building up towards, but no, we had to be reminded that Kevin exists.

>>84785644

Steven fused with Connie for the same reasons Jasper fused with Lapis. I think the narrative function of this episode is to show Steven realizing that's not an appropriate reason to fuse.

>>84785591
>co whining that the message is too she
>Tumblr whining that it's putting the responsibility of avoiding abuse on the victim

They really can't win, huh

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>>84796577

>>84785342
>white cis
>he's brown and the only "actually gay" character on the show.

Is there any futa Stevonnie on Kevin porn yet?

>>84793224
That is literally the exact opposite of the lesson they learned.
They became fixated on how much they hated Kevin until they realized it was making their lives worse, so instead they decided to let it go.
It's a lesson about understanding that sometimes you just need to cut toxic people out of your life instead of "beating them".

>>84803097
You really can't expect a 24-hour troll buffet like 4chan to catch on to a lesson like that.

>>84795826
Your headcanon isn't all that clever to begin with.

>>84803014

>futa

Faggot

Honestly why do you people watch this

>>84796149
The "punishment" was originally going to be "beat him at a race to knock his ego down a peg" and eventually became "just ignore him" when they realized he wasn't worth the effort.
It is exactly appropriate for the "crime" of being a huge douche.

>>84803337

Maybe because of the drama? I watched some episodes and found it utterly boring.

its meme magic
tumblr thought the show was pandering to them and they got so deep into there delusions they became real.

or maybe the writers just decided to start pandering because they wanted to please tumblr

>>84803430

Meme Magic isn't real

>>84785591
well sure that was theoretically the point
they just fucked it up massively

>>84785591

No wonder /co/ hates it so much.

>>84785485
but he did not ruin a good time before this episode it seems like they just brushed what happened off and went on with there lives

and they weren't content with just having kevin have problems of being to pushy during courtship they went out of there way to try and make him an arsehole in every conceivable way

>>84786746
that object was incredibly important having access to a network again gave her back a huge part of the life she lost.

no matter how much peridot was being a pain what amethyst did was unacceptable

>>84786629
yeah the racing bits themselves were really good.

and im glad they had the decency to actually have kevin win instead of somebody with no experience somehow beating him

>>84788182
people should be calling others out on there bullshit so they can maybe improve themselves.

>>84793374
anon there was plenty of tumblr pandering in this episode already you dont need to go inventing subtext to get sufficiently mad

>>84792990
>they beat him
but they lost the race, you retard

>HE became the one acting immaturely
yes? because they realized that they were getting worked up over some guy who was just being an asshole for the lulz

>>84803299
Futa female on regular female is less gay than male on female.

>>84805407

No. It's still pretty gay. You see. Whether you are looking at fute on male or futa on female. You are still focusing on a "woman" that has a dick. The primary aspect of that sort of porn, are huge throbbing penises.

Dicks are the entire point of futa porn. Even normal porn gives shots of the girls body, her tits and her ass. Futa is just a bunch of dicks.

You humongous faggot.

>>84784868
>if someone doesn't like you then you should just ignore

what terrible advice
you should murder people you disagree with

>>84785342
>Kevin
>white
kek

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>>84803174
>>84803846
not really a headcanon, just an interpretation
in the context of what the show builds itself as and to the people this show panders to, it really is no wonder why Kevin is the only person Steven actually hates

the show isn't about Steven fighting bad gems and stopping an invasion
the show is about Steven becoming more and more in touch with his emotions (or femininity), using them to win his battles
while willpower (or masculinity) never comes into play, until now

Kevin is a true challenge for Steven because Steven actually thinks he's gonna have to actually fight him, he didn't want to befriend or even understand Kevin at first, rather beat him at his own game. Of course in the end Steven realizes he needs to go back being in touch with his emotions to beat Kevin, rather than anything about himself changing as a character

Personally i prefer heroes to be masculine, or at least a master of their emotions balancing their hot blooded side and their understanding side and think Steven is a hyper emotional candy ass

but seeing how this is what the show goes for, its makes sense

but that's just an interpretation

>>84800257
he charmed me

>>84784868
>So, if people doesn't like you/better than you at something, that mean they're just haters who you should ignore?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7RgN9ijwE4

>>84806608
You sounds like a tremendous faggot.

>>84806977
why is that

>>84807011
I think anyone who drags weird gender politics into their examination of a fiction that doesn't explicitly tie into it is a huge faggot, regardless of their leaning.

>>84788306

I like you. We should hang out sometime

>>84806608
my biggest problem with the show is Steven never interacts with anyone who isn't the gems/Connie/his father in any real way.
he doesn't really hang out with any other friends that are guys and and we never get to see any of the other characters involved in Stevens life.

that's not to say that these episodes don't happen but i would argue for a slice of life show, not as much time is spent exploring beach city and it's inhabitants as they should have.

Steven gets one offs with some characters but after they never really get brought up again.

2 onion episodes
1 about that gang of kids
1 about pee dee
2 about fernado
yeah know?

Steven was just mad that Kevin tricked him into having a boner.

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>>84807089
you watch this show right?
normally i wouldn't put any interpretations like this into any other form of media.
but Steven Universe is special case
Sugar has stated multiple times about the roles gender and sexuality have in the show, so it makes sense to put these concepts in mind when understanding the show

and what Kevin does, how different he is from all the other characters and obstacles Steven faces and the reception fans give him, it just makes sense to the writers intend that he's the MAN every hyper emotional woman hates and obsesses over because they gave them a bad experience
the episode was even about Steven learning to get over that obsession

on 2nd thought, its better Steven learns to beat him the same way he beats everyone else (with understanding) rather than try to fight him, wouldn't want SJWs attacking every man who gives them a bad experience

but i'd still rather Steven actually change as a character at some point, 90 episodes in and he's the same character he was from day 1, and will continue to fix all problems the same way with feelings, but this is still the first episode he's really even considered approaching problems differently so that's something i guess...
SU really is more formulaic than people think it is

>>84807286
^^^^^

>>84807338
if Stevonnie wasn't 2 heads, she'd probably be hate fucking Kevin

>>84807582
yes?

>>84807601
That means I agree with you, anon. Tbh Im actually more interested in Beach City than the Space Rocks Saga

>>84807286
well there's Lars, but every Lars episode is about learning that he's a worse person than you thought in the last episode...

but damn really Pee Dee hasn't gotten another episode since season 1?

>>84807540
Steven doesn't really need to change too much beyond becoming generally less naive and more experienced as he becomes more familiar with the nature of the world around him. I think it's a falsehood that a main character needs to personally develop in order to serve a purpose in their story, so long as their personality is inherently likable.
He is a character that exists to connect to and incite change in others, not so much to develop himself, which makes sense, because his backstory and worldview are both very simple, while those around him are much more complex.

That being said, you still come off as a tremendous faggot to me.

>>84803097
actually i was referring to the lesson in Alone Together
Stevonnie blames her feels of loneliness on Kevin because he's the first guy she sees

>>84807641
both are interesting, but neither really gets balanced together well.

it would be cool to see what would happen when a normal person from beach city has to fight the gem monsters (a real fight; not Sady on top of an invisible beast) or dealing with the aftermath of any of the gems fights.remember that time the gems destroyed a pizza shop and never fixed it? not just that but that they ran away as the old man who ran the shop yelled at Steven in their place?

>>84807642
i haven't seen any and i recall that they were friends which is even more fucked up.
it's like the writers decided that Steven should have no male friends out side of his father.
Actually I'd say Stevens treated more like a small child in a family full of teenage girls, which would fuck up a kid in real life.

>>84807642
>>84807876
I agree that it's weird Peedee hasn't gotten a focus episode since Frybo, but at the same time, very little about his character struck me as interesting in any way.
He feels like Sugar just wanted a discount Double D, but then nobody really knew what to do with him beyond partnering him up with his brother.

>>84807801
Steven is shit he needs to change and become a man instead of a bleeding clithole. Steven is so awful I realized I would like this show much better if the Gems and Rose were the MCs and Steven never fucking existed.

But how the hell did Stevonnie even know how to drive, let alone drift

>>84808224
plot

>>84808146
Clits don't have holes, idiot.

>>84807876
>>84808098
Peedee's purpose as a character is to teach Steven and the audience that growing up is tough, and things you miss won't be as fun as before
such a lesson would have been more fitting now after Steven's birthday, or when he started finding out about other gems rather than early season 1 when it was all about SoL and Steven enjoying being a kid
Peedee can't really teach him anything anymore, mostly because the writers don't know what to do with him

>>84785513
Kevin is a gender swapped Stevonnie.

So, some kind of indian/white mix, I guess.

>>84806913
No he didn't. You're just charmed by the idea of him.

>>84785644
Stevonnie almost won a race their first time ever sitting in a car. This is establishing what the combined power of Steven and Connie is capable of, if this is how they drive their first time in a car, imagine what they can do with the sword and shield that they've been practicing with.

>>84808224
The mixture of superhuman coordination, and probably a bunch of racing videogames.

>>84806608
steven might have largly feminine traits but there are masculine ones as well this becomes especially apparent in combat

>>84797253
I'm surprised so few people here are talking about that. The episode was like one big Initial D Parody.

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>>84807801
>>84808146
Steven's purpose as a character is mostly to be an "every man" for viewers to project themselves unto
even though he's born special, even though he has all the magic powers, even though he's almost annoyingly kind hearted
what he mostly does is making sense of everyone else's craziness, a perfect person the viewer to project themselves on
because he as a character has no experiences that shape him in ways the give him major baggage like the gems and he will never get experiences that would drastically change him as a character, his biggest fault is his ignorance,
other shows do this all the time, episodic shows

Steven Universe however is a show with some sort of continuity
there really should be more instances where he is faced with experiences that'd change him if not for the experience itself, it doesn't even need to be ones that'd carry one to the next episodes, but at least things that'd let you know he's actually growing up
most episodes is him learning to deal with problems the same way he always does, its formula

>>84808633
he never fights though

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>>84785342
>stevonnie didn't rape him back with her cock

>>84784868
>> Some Assbaby defends a character who consistantly acts like an asshole because he wishes he was 16, rich, pretty and had an expensive car

I don't give a fuck about Kevin. All I want is for Steven to be in trouble in the next episode for joyriding in Greg's car.

>>84809626
stop projecting

>>84809626
>assbaby
>>>/t/umblr

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>>84784868
Kevin was an utterly cliche and flat character, and it was disappointing that the staff made him like that.

Even so, while I disliked Kevin's characterization, I understood Steven's utter contempt for him.
Steven was irrationally angry because it was a personal encounter that he had with Kevin, not to mention that getting into petty altercations is what kids do. He's easier on the Gems because the concept of war is still abstract to him, and he doesn't understand how brutal it can be. Also he holds Gems to a higher pedestal, having been raised on their glory stories for all of his life.

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>>84784868
Yeah I haven't been so upset since that second Goofy Movie.

>>84785375
""Complex""

>>84785644
>filler episodes

t. Someone born after 1997

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>Episode was written by two women
>One of which failed the 10th grade twice
>it's shit

HHHMMMMMMMMM?

>>84810633
To be fair with the Goofy Movie, he was memorable and they made sure that he wasn't just an asshole but flat out crazy.

I felt like this episode proves that Stevonnie is female.

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>>84784868
Hopefully assuming that you just 'heard' about what the show was instead of watching it, because the message was fairly clear. If not then... well shit man I hope you learn persepctive.

I don't defend the show typically, but this one time I will since it seems you got the wrong idea about the episode as a whole.

Recap:
In a previous episode Connie and Steven fused for the first time, ever, by accident. This is to be taken as some great experience (which, I will admit, the way it was described seemed practically like sex and they both just lost their virginity so it was kinda creepy to me).
Kevin was there in that episode at the rave. In said-rave he was a pompous douchebag and forced a dance with Stephonie (the fusion). He was being a smug bitch about it too and there was no visible or even vague redeeming qualities to this ass. They eventually pushed him off but it forced them (Connie and Steven) to break the fusion. But they had fun at the end of the episode and danced together.

This Episode:
Kevin returns and is an absolute douche-nozzle, seemingly more-so than previously seen who insults people off the bat and brags about every achievement. If anyone here browses /tg/ then I suppose you could say Kevin is a skinny, not-cheeto-dust-covered version of "That Guy". Steven and Connie are pissed at him, with Connie being the more reasonable with her being able to handle her emotions better.
They decide to teach him a lesson about him ruining their first fusion night and forcing a dance (Which, another creepy moment, seemed to me like they were referencing being raped/molested). So they go do the race yadda yadda and they are not good as good at it. At least, not enough to beat him as he used a nitrous boost at the end to win instead of tie. Mid-way through this they realize they fused (again, a very sacred and personal thing to Connie and Steven) just to get back at a jerk.
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>guy drives by in his car
>WOW WHAT A DICK
>HEY LET'S FUSE TOGETHER AND RACE HIM
>YEAH FUCK THAT GUY
This episode is basically about them both wanting to fuck him, not understanding why and using a race as an alternative

>>84811216
Steven was raised by women, so Stevonnie is basically 1 Woman + 1/2 woman

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>>84811267
<C>
They reconcile and decide to forgive and forget and not let the attitude/piss-poor behavior of an asshat and enjoy the rest of their evening. They do so.


Personal Opinion time:
If anything I think this is closer to a "Don't feed the troll" episode, like in WoY. We could argue this whole thing was a straw man and I will agree with that, but then this show is also good at showing good, bad, and gray. Asssholes are usually not 100% assholes, good guys are usually not 100% doing great things and fuck up royally, some people just like to burn down rollercoasters

The episode (and the moral) would have been a lot better if Kevin didn't remember them at all or care about them.

>>84811138
>One of which failed the 10th grade twice
I keep seeing this. Who was it?

>>84795134
Yeah, where would we be without fart jokes?

>>84811367

then the message would make no sense, the point is that they all remember and want back at each other. that's the point of the "don't let your hate shape your actions"

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It's funny that the beta bitches are coming out to defend Kevin, since Kevin worked to make resident beta bitch Ronaldo look not-so-loathsome by comparason. The Cool Kids at least let Ronaldo hang around.

>>84811446
Lauren Zuke

>>84808949
their dick anon

>>84811494
Kevin not even remembering their encointer would have made Stevonnie's hatred out as even more irrational and petty. Which it was.
Also hating someone, only to find out that they don't even recall why you hate them is great.
"For you, it was the day I took your father. But for me, it was another tuesday."

Would have made Kevin out as a truly cruel character, rather than cartoon jerk#2648.

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The alternative is episodes like this, where the guy is murdered because he was kind of a jerk one time.

>>84808224
I just remembered Steven probably knows how to drive stick shift.
He operated the stick in Lars and the Cool Kids.

>>84784868
>So, if people doesn't like you/better than you at something, that mean they're just haters who you should ignore?
No anon. If someone's being a dick to you, you shouldn't give them power over your emotions.

A very difficult lesson for people on the internet to learn.

>>84811655
I dont remember him dying. I remember him getting punched out by Simon though.

Also Ash was way worse. Dude straight up altered Marceline's memories to get back with her.

>>84811720
Tru dat

>>84811725
>is crushed beneath's jakes foot
>is never seen again

Safe to say he aint gonna be in Rush Hour 3

>>84811798
>is never seen again
Anon. He was there in the episode where Ice King turned back into Simon and summoned his girlfriend through the time portal.

Maybe Homeworld used to protect life on Earth before they began running out of resources.

>>84788306
Thank you, some common sense in this thread. The episode was bad overall, but the moral they were going for was still solid.

>>84811613

what the fuck am i reading? nigger it's really simple :

>they both made the other have a bad time

>they both hold a grudge

>they both go at it in the race

>one learns the best course of action is to let go and don't act on hate because you end up getting obsessed

>the other stays fixated in their "haha got you" attitude but can't get over it

kevin it's not a coldsteel-tier edgelord, he's just a smug prick

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>>84811267
>douche-nozzle

but moving on, in his first appearance, he's a jerk, but not really the one who made the experience the rave bad for them

it was feeling alone, they were more concerned about that feeling than some guy coming up to them
Kevin just added on to that, and was someone they could blame because he wasn't being nice to them
he did clearly want to get involved with her with all the flirting
yeah shame on him for not being morally upstanding in a fucking rave, just be glad Stevonnie wasn't on ecstasy and he wasn't taking advantage of that
he called everyone garbage, but Stevonnie was more concerned about him calling them them angels

he was just the wrong guy at the wrong time, Stevonnie needed someone to blame all her confused and mixed feelings about feeling alone

>>84812089
they wanted to turn earth into a weapon

>>84788306
>SU isn't some kind of sjw propaganda tool just because the cartoon's message

A 40-something year old woman I know that also watches SU posted on Facebook, linking an article, claiming that the content of the article is a reason for watching the cartoon. The article was about Sugar saying she likes vagina.

>you should watch the show because the creator came out of the closet

Like it's cool and all that she wanted to admit she likes pussy but that's not a valid reason for someone watching a show, you know?

>>84785644
>Okay but how did it advance the plot in any way?
This series is mostly one-shots with some over-arching plots, not the other way around.

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>>84788154
That is EXACTLY the message this generation needs to hear.

>>84803795
That's not what happened in the episode, what the episode was about, or what anon claimed.

Kevin wasn't giving criticism, he was just trying to get their goat. Feeding him with a negative reaction only gives him what he wants and encourages him to do it more.

>>84792990
Because they got over their obsession with him and he became obsessed with them.

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we seem to be forgetting that matt burnett (pretty much head writer for the show) has said a few times now that his favorite character is kevin
this seems to go against the notion that they're using him to "pander" to anyone doesn't it?

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Why are people having such a hard time understanding a message as simple and straight forward as "don't take the bait"?, on fucking 4chan of all places?

>>84813062
its fun to over analyze

>>84791402

I did that when 15
But nobody's know

>>84796014
But he's an asshole who thinks everyone is garbage. Also he drives an automatic.

>>84812559
Only after they wanted to turn it into a colony, which itself may have been after they wanted to protect life on Earth.

>>84791402
The lesson felt natural, anon.

>>84807851
>Stevonnie blames her feels of loneliness on Kevin
No, she doesn't. Kevin is just someone she felt annoyed by and he just wouldn't take no.

>>84784868
They took an Initial D parody and turned it into an allegory for molestation.

>It's a "two children who have literally never driven a car in their lives are able to execute extremely dangerous, skill-intensive, and illegal driving maneuvers with their eyes closed" episode
>It's a "you can park in the middle of the road for several minutes and still have a chance at winning a short-stretch race" episode
Why is it that I can accept that this child has magical tears that can heal people but I can't accept this?

My mind rejects it unequivocally. Maybe because the moral is teaching young children to steal their parents' car and go drag racing.

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>>84813198
>Also he drives an automatic.
What? No he doesn't. Aren't these gearshifts?

>>84815164
>two children who have literally never driven a car in their lives are able to execute extremely dangerous, skill-intensive, and illegal driving maneuvers with their eyes closed
That's because of Steven. He's got super driving powers.
>you can park in the middle of the road for several minutes and still have a chance at winning a short-stretch race
He was waiting for them to catch up because he likes fucking with people.

>>84813198
>americans in charge of cars

>>84815279
>tfw every episode is explained with "Steven unlocked a power for that"

It's like watching silver age superman

>>84815164
>>It's a "two children who have literally never driven a car in their lives are able to execute extremely dangerous, skill-intensive, and illegal driving maneuvers with their eyes closed" episode
Stevonnie has super human reflex.
>>It's a "you can park in the middle of the road for several minutes and still have a chance at winning a short-stretch race" episode
They lost.

Also, Kevin was actually waiting for them for more bragging rights. Try to pay more attention.

>>84815304
He has shown he was starting to have good Reflex already in the past. have you see how he handle that shield?

Also, he was shown having been taught by Greg the rope of how to drive at the start of the episode.

>>84815251
No. that's not a gearstick. Greg's car had a Gearstick.

What you are seeing on the wheel is used with easytronic gearbox.

It's an automaitc box for which you can actually change the gear on the press of a button, without having to deal with the clutch pedal. Easytronic cars, don't have clutch pedal.

>>84815365
At the end of the episode he verbally confirms that he has never actually driven a car though. He has only sat in the chair and pretended.

I assume you're old enough to know there's a difference between actually driving a car and pretending. It's why we force people to take Driver's Education.

There's also a difference between drifting and regular driving. Namely, not rolling your car because that's what would actually happen in real life.

>>84815350
You can have all the reflexes in the world, but it doesn't help if you've never done something before. It's like saying "How did he know how to defuse that bomb?"

"He had time. He has superhuman reflexes!"

>>84813062
>Why are people having such a hard time understanding a message as simple and straight forward as "don't take the bait"?, on fucking 4chan of all places?
>on fucking 4chan of all places?
You just answered your own question.

>>84785523
a shitty parody of Initial D

>>84815406
>At the end of the episode he verbally confirms that he has never actually driven a car though.
Never said it wasn't the case. But Greg has shown him how it work. Ans steven has good reflex. Improve even more with the fusion.

>"How did he know how to defuse that bomb?"
>"He had time. He has superhuman reflexes!"
You forget the part where he was actually shown how to defuse the bomb.

>>84815448
I am 100% sure Greg did not show him how to drift.

>>84815496
Steven seemed to know what he was doing. And Greg was just on his side. There 80% chance at least Greg was showing him how to do.

Also, Steven lived in a van for at least 12 years.

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>84785342

You don't even deserve a (You)

>>84815399

>easytronic

Souns pretty gay desu fampire

>>84815618
That's what Kevin's car has.

>>84811138
Well, women ARE retarded after all.

>>84811138
But it was good.

>>84815750
(You)

>>84815780
I don't get your point. The episodes was good. That's it.

>>84815807
(You)

>>84784868
I felt it was more "You don't have to engage with people that annoy you" as in "if you don't like something, just don't do it moron"

>>84815406
>There's also a difference between drifting and regular driving. Namely, not rolling your car because that's what would actually happen in real life.
shit like this kills my suspension of belief

>>84815814
What do you mean?

>>84784868
I wouldnt use the extreme of molestation, but I like ti thinm the episode is sort of a callback to hiw the crewniverse was calling out the tumblr fanbase foe bullying that one fanartist into a suicide attempt. You could also compare it to someone getting all of her friends to gang up on someone for wronging them. Even if it legitimately made you feel uncomfortable (as in the dancing, and the guy is a legit asshole), you can't bring yourself down to their level.

Getting flustered and ganging up on someone you dislike is banding together with the wrong intentions and doesn't equate to healthy teamwork. It wasn't forcible or abusive like Jasper on Lapis, but it was symbiotically toxic for Connie and Steven.

>>84815406
Stevonnie drove well because of the power of the Dondai Supremo.

Never underestimate the legendary torque of the Dondai Supremo.

>>84811138
>>84815780
>>84815814
Not that anon but it really was genuinely good. I don't get why when you dislike an episode you have to shit your pants about it.

>>84784868
Rebecca Sugar does it again!

>>84786976
So pretty much the moral of Beach City Drift then

The message was
> stop looking for outside validation

>>84816939
The idea of validation didn't even come up once.

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Kevin is fuckable regardless of whatever personality he has, why did Stevonnie throw away a golden opportunity to get some?

>>84816958
You have to read into it a bit I admit but I can see it pretty easily.

>>84789199
Superiority is a meme. Inferiority is a meme. All abstractions are memes you blithering dickwidget, memes are not just cute phrases and bullshit made up on the internet, it's literally any idea that can be communicated between humans.

>>84816848
>Those who identify as heterosexual sicken me deeply.
-Rebecca Sugar

What did she mean by this?

>>84817029
I'm sure if you ignore the obvious one that's spelled out for you then maybe.

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>>84813198
>he's an asshole who thinks everyone is garbage

>Exactly why all of /co/ wishes they were him.

>>84792990
Are you implying Kevin was being mature in the first place?

>>84788306
You. I like you.

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>>84812590
Interesting. Has nothing to do with the subject at hand, but interesting!

>>84821126
It does, though, when the guy said it's not SJW propaganda and an example where it is was provided.

>>84803097
>toxic
SJW buzzword.

>>84806923
I know it's a little kid and he's likely nervous in front of the camera, but, minus the stuttering, this is what I heard:
>have you ever had a dream that you want him to do you so much you could do anything?

I'm going to infer the question is really "Did you ever have a dream where you could do anything" but...damn, kid.

>>84823447
That's an example of the audience. That's not propaganda. Sugar said at a convention "I'm Bi and that's why this story is so important to me to tell" and then a completely unrelated person said "And THAT'S why you should watch Steven Universe". How does that have ANYTHING to do with the show itself, and not just its audience?

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>>84791402
That's the TRUE power of the Dondyru.

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>>84791402
>I'd never ask you to break the law.
What a liar.

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>>84815251
No

>>84823447
The entire Social Justice movement is one middle aged lesbian who follows Rebecca Sugar on Twitter?

I fail to see what everyone is so freaked out about then.

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https://youtu.be/H1-oo6K9J2Y?t=21s

>>84788182
This is only a turn towards stoiciism, if you're as hedonisitic as a burlap sack of jello.

Unfortunately, a burlap sack full of jello would be an improvement to the moral fiber or the tumblrites who make up the annoing part of the SU fanbase.

>>84803864
>but they lost the race, you retard
oh. i skipped to the end. it was awful

>>84828907
jesus my ears. That had a chance to be good too

>>84813198
Technically those fancy double clutch bullshits aren't automatics, they're their own thing

>>84815406
It's actually really fucking hard to roll a small car like that, it isn't a van or an SUV where they threaten to roll over at the slightest breeze. Typically you need to either have a bad incline, hit something while sliding, or something like that

>>84815406

There are magical women who can turn into helicopters and pull weapons out of their solid holographic bodies. I'm willing to consider Stevonnie being and adult futa woman made out of 2 already very competent kids fused together, one of which has crazy magical powers, an ok-ish explanation as to why she was able to drive a car on par with professional drivers. Blame the rest on rule of cool because honestly come on, it's Stevonnie taking part in a beautifully animated 80's-y car race to 80's-y sounding synths.

>>84808360
What if Kevin is actually a fusion though? I mean there has to be a reason why hes nowhere to be found except only in episodes with Stevonnie