If we are lucky, in 4 days we'll finally know who will play

>>84557466

Rhonda Rousey

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If we're lucky, this movie will bomb and Marvel comics will finally give up on Carol Danvers.

>>84557487
And then Monica will finally have her time to shine!

>>84557466
Who fucking cares?

>>84557487

>movie bombs

>it's another 10 years before we get more female-driven superhero movies

Though considering it's /co/ this would probably be considered a win.

>>84557518
Wasp is going to have her name in the title of a movie before Carol or Widow

If Inhumans ever happens then it would probably be about Medusa or Crystal, can't center it around Black Bolt or fucking Triton

>>84557518
Why is that such a bad thing really?

>>84557594

Because they deserve their movies just like anyone else?

>>84557591

I mean solo movie.

>>84557487
This. Just let her fucking die already, no one likes her.

>>84557466

>Stop trying to make Carol happen. Carol will never happen.

>>84557605
Do they really? How many characters really deserve a movie? I mean people are so hard pressed to find chick heroes they think would work as a solo hero that they keep getting stuck on Carol. And even then everything about her sounds less than inspiring.

>>84557638

>How many characters really deserve a movie?

I don't know if that argument works in a world where Ant-Man got a movie.

>>84557487
THIS

>>84557630
>>84557638
honestly this movie is probably carol's best chance at getting established as a character people give a shit about

>>84557679
Her comics are still going to be terrible and boring. If anything the movies make comics even worse.

>All these butt-blasted haters.

I also don't like this feminazi, but hear me out, here's a thing: MCU is pretty different from comics. They can avoid the mistakes of comicbooks and do their own thing. I'm actually excited to see what her film will be about and how it affects the MCU.

>>84557657
Hank Pym was a founding Avenger and was the inspiration for like a dozen other heroes. The most important thing Carol has done is inspire Kamala's fanfiction

>>84557657
I don't know what you're implying exactly.

Tom Cruise

>>84557487
>an MCU film bombing
It's a nice thought, anon, but let's be realistic here

>>84557716
The fear is more they just make their own mistakes. There's a real chance that they latch on too hard to her being the chick hero that carries a lot of bullshit that would drag the movie down.

>>84557638
She Hulk totally deserves a fucking movie by now. Spider-Woman should have one too, and Bat Woman. I mean seriously we have tons of good female leads who are never gonna get a movie cause of some continuity snarl

>>84557657
Ant-Man deserved a movie though. He's an original Avenger. Carol has never been popular and the most important thing she's done is get Marvel editorial to make the entire Marvel Universe pretend she's some iconic figure.

>>84557833
I want Jessica Chastain to star in a Batwoman movie.

Kamala Khan for Captain

>>84557856
I want this too. With Rashida Jones as her love interest.

>>84557833
She-Hulk sounds hard, especially since they're dick shy to have a legit Hulk movie again.
Spider-woman could've probably been wiggled into the past several Cap flicks.

Batwoman seems like a lot, they haven't even had the confidence to have any of the Batfamily in Batman's movie, no Robins, No Nightwing, not even a Batgirl.

>>84557816
I dunno, man, they've openly admitted that they were getting hung up on how to portray her as "Marvel's Female Superhero" until they realised that that was a terrible idea and they should just write her how they would a guy, so I'm cautiously hype.

>>84557753
>>84557846
Scott Lang isn't, though.

>>84557973
Nope which is why Hank had to carry the movie.

>>84557753

...let's be real, here. Founding member of the Avengers, yes. Inspiration for a dozen other heroes - not even remotely. Over the years, Carol's put in just as much time as an Avenger as Hank Pym.

>>84557638

Carol is Marvel's Hal Jordan - a headstrong test pilot with powers granted from aliens. And we got that stinker of a Green Lantern movie, so I'm not sure "deserving" is the criteria you wanna use - it should be, can you make an interesting story with the character? And the answer is yes with a LOT of female heroes - Carol, Wanda, Natasha, Jen Walters, Kamala, Jessica Drew, Misty Knight, Monica Rambeau, Elsa Bloodstone... Hell, Ant-Man's version of Wasp was so strong, the sequel is "Ant-Man and the Wasp".

"People" aren't hard-pressed to find "good" female heroes. It's executives that think they won't sell - and that attitude is finally turning around, thanks to audiences flocking to Mad Max, Star Wars: TFA, Hunger Games, etc. Realistically, they've always sold well (Aliens, LotR, Kill Bill, Trinity in The Matrix trilogy, Sarah Connor...), but Hollywood attitudes are hard to change, especially when you're working with hundreds of millions of dollars.

If Captain Marvel does anywhere close to as well as the rest of the MCU, I guarantee we're gonna see more solo female hero films.

>>84557466
In four days they will announce to great fanfare that Captain Marvel will be delayed until 2022.

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>>84557466
Gwendoline Christe

She has the media recognition.

>>84558524
Fuckyeah. But Emily Blunt after Sicaro

>>84558433
>Inspiration for a dozen other heroes - not even remotely.
Maybe inspiration is the wrong word, but his Pym particles and various codenames are the origins for a lot of super people
Janet
Nadia
Scott Lang
Eric O'Grady
Black Ant
Bill Foster
Tom Foster
Atlas
Cassie Lang
Rita DeMara
even Clint Barton used the Goliath identity and Pym particles for a while

And that's not even getting into how he created Ultron, and has an indirect hand in the creation of Vision, Jocasta, Alkhema, Victor Mancha, and most recently Vision's whole family

>>84557987
Oh please. Stop spewing shit

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>>84557638
>And even then everything about her sounds less than inspiring.
I like the idea of her getting a movie specifically because of how inspiring it is. Given the decades of bullshit she's endured to get to this point.

>>84558524
She's kinda unattractive... she would make a perfect feminazi .

>>84557833
>She Hulk totally deserves a fucking movie by now
Not solo movie material. Whenever they've try to play her straight she's more boring than Carol could hope to be.
>Spider-Woman should have one too
Pfhahahahahaha fuck off benis

>>84557875
I like how she's made the Ms Marvel name her own though. It finally feels like a distinct thing.
If the name ever changes hands again unlikely desu it should be to Teddy.

>>84558433
>Monica Rambeau
I really don't see what could be so "interesting" about her compared to everyone else on that list. Unless you just mean visually.
Even in Nextwave she was the nofunallowed straight man.

>>84558433
Also LotR really come on now
Trinity's a stretch too since she's not MC

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>>84558487
I don't hate you Carol, I just wish you had kept your old look.

>>84558830
This. Why did she have to become an SJW-appeasing icon?

>>84558891
Because it's [Current Year]

>>84557947
Marvel don't actually own the rights to hulk and can't use him in a solo movie

>>84558598

Eeeh. That's Wasp, Wasp, Ant-Man, Ant-Man, Ant-Man LMD, Goliath, Goliath, Goliath, Stature, Yellowjacket (Femizon version), and Hawkeye. That's less inspiration, and more "Well, we like the name and powers, let's try to make the characters interesting this time".

>>84558744

Nothing wrong with a straight man from time to time. Captain America did pretty well with it. As for interesting - she's ex-harbor patrol for New Orleans with strong family ties. That's a great location, and a great setup for being a champion for the average person, something that the MCU is kind of lacking at the moment.

>>84558758

Arwen and Eowyn? And how the hell do you reason that Trinity isn't a main character? She's front and center in every film.

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>>84558830
I prefer the current one desu. :|

>>84557591

Is the title really important anyways.

Winter Soldier was effectively the "Cap & Widow" movie whatever it was titled, it was a buddy cop movie like Lethal Weapon with a female as the co-lead.

>>84558978
You like it when girls wear something tight that covers up everything?

>>84558830
I don't. the whole outfit screams 'I'm gonna be a D list forever'

dress for the job you want, not the job you have

>>84558993
She's a professional, nothing wrong with her wearing something practical.

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>>84557466

I thought the role had already been announced, or at least a "well-known secret", that it went to Brie Larson?

>>84559002
How is it practical? The clothing doesn't protect her any better than her skin does.

>>84559014
Can she at least try bulking up?

>>84557466
I thought it was already Brie Larson?

>>84559014
Would be a total fucking waste. The only thing worse would be if Natalie Dormer got it.

>>84559014
The article from Variety said Brie Larson was "the frontrunner".

Pretty sure the /co/ response was a thread called "BRIE LARSON IS CAPTAIN MARVEL CONFIRMED".

So I can see where the confusion comes from.

>>84558685
>>84558433
>>84557833
>>84557605

Why could't the faggots stay on reddit and tumblr and leave 4chan alone?

>>84559113

variety.com/2016/film/news/brie-larson-captain-marvel-1201786876/

"Sources tell Variety Larson is in early talks to play Captain Marvel, one of Marvel’s most popular female superheroes, in an upcoming standalone film. It’s unknown where negotiations stand, but sources have told Variety that Larson is their first choice, and that she’s leaning toward playing the part."

>>84559113
Kev Smith said it as a fact on Fatman a few episodes back too.

>>84558993
>Who is Catwoman

>>84559014
>>84559113
>>84559154
>>84559168

Larson makes the most sense. She's

>young
>popular
>talented
>attractive
>not attached to any franchise that matters, considering Skull Island is DOA

They're going to be going after younger actors for these new leading roles so they have some keeping time.

>>84559188
Not the answer to my question.

>>84559195
Tough thing is she has an oscar. Which usually ends up being more trouble than it's worth. She'll get offers for better movies which could create scheduling conflicts as well as the fact that most of the "good" actors that have been in the MCU have ended up kinda shitting on comic book movies in general at some point or another (a la Anthony Hopkins).

>>84559395
>She'll get offers for better movies
Where is she going to make more money than the MCU?

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>>84558993
Well when you put it like that, definitely.

>>84559434
Latex bodysuits for every heroine!

>>84557973
Bitch the character is Ant-Man not Scott Lang, like who cares

>>84559395

>as well as the fact that most of the "good" actors that have been in the MCU have ended up kinda shitting on comic book movies in general at some point or another (a la Anthony Hopkins).

She was a former Disney child actor, the MCU is Hamlet compared to the crap she was in from the early 2000's.

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>>84558997
Nice summation of Carol's character arc for the past 15 years.

Give me Rowdy Rousey or give me death

>>84559149
Because we pull you back from the brink of hivemind circlejerk. :3

>>84559195
>young
I'm glad anon posted Carol's old drivers license a few threads ago because I'd be squirming uncomfortably otherwise.

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>>84559395
>its a "anon thinks actors have integrity" episode

>>84559395
Anthony Hopkins shits on the Thor movies because they're not good films. He's made it very explicit before that he cares more about getting a fat paycheck than being in prestige films.

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Tell me this isn't the perfect Carol Danvers.

>>84557487
Carol's ongoing is actually good, but fuck reading, right?

>>84557473
Choke yourself.

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>>84559619
This isn't the perfect Carol Danvers.

>>84559714
I didn't mind what I read, but as a Canadian I'm salty as fuck that Alpha Flight became her fucking lackeys.

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>>84559714
Man, just leave him be. We're getting a Flerken Captain Marvel movie!

>>84557487
Hopefully it succeeds. Mostly because if it bombs it will likely convince people in charge that the movie-going public doesn't want to see female superheroes at all, thus robbing us of the chance to get the female hero flicks we want.

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Still holding out for Yvonne Strahovski

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>>84559714
>Carol's ongoing is actually good

>>84559981
People don't want to see female superhero flicks though. Especially if it's in the main role. That would be boring.

>>84559981
>it will likely convince people in charge that the movie-going public doesn't want to see female superheroes at all
Good.

>>84557473
People who actually want this have no taste.

>>84557487
Fucking this.

>>84560088

Yes anon, because if there's one complaint we've had with recent superhero movies it's that not enough of them star men.

With the last one starring a woman being more thena decade ago. Clearly it's a plague that must be stopped!

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>>84560035
>it's still 2012

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>>84560055

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>>84560137
YOU'VE TAKEN EVERYTHING ELSE
THIS IS MY LAST SAFE SPACE
NO GIRLS ALLOWED
ROOOOOOOOO

>>84560203

>you can't like movies starring girls if you're a guy

I don't get this, same thing with Star Wars.

Who fucking cares as long as the movie is good? Who can possibly give a shit who or what the lead is, why the fuck does it matter?

How do people expend so much rage on something that matters so little? Who actually looks at a movie and goes "Well this stars a woman or a non-0white, so I can't watch it."

>>84560263
This.

I just didn't care for TFA for other reasons and thought Rey was a Mary Sue and I probably wouldn't care about a Captain Marvel movie because I don't care for Carol Danvers. But a lead being non-white, non-male, or even non-hetero is not something that I care about because I'm not fucking stupid.

>>84559619
She is aging exponentially before our eyes. Maybe circa Devils Advocate, when she was in her prime.

>>84560263
The mysoginy astounds me, because women are far stronger than men. I doubt we could go through period pain on a monthly basis and childbirth guys.

>>84560203
Calm your tits sis.

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>>84560389
2abstract4me
make your point pls

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>>84560263
>Who fucking cares as long as the movie is good?
>female lead
I agree with you, just getting it out of the way.

>>84560286

I mean you can not like a movie because you think it's shit, that's fine. There are plenty of legitimate complaints about TFA, just like I have no interest in new Ghostbusters because I don't like Feig's style of humor outside of Spy, and from the reviews it sounds like another generic Feig movie.

I just can't get in the mindset of someone who looks at a movie and dismisses it out of hand because of a non-white or non-male lead. Do you need to self-insert into the lead of all the media you watch? Who gives a shit?

Then again I didn't mind Rey being a Mary Sue in TFA, so maybe that makes me one of "them" or some bullshit like that.

>>84560183
well played, that actually made me laugh.

I'm actually kinda excited to see WW but she's an icon. I think most other female characters would fall flat.

She-Hulk would be perfect for a Daredevil appearance though. Even if just a short intro/cameo of "Jennifer Walters" instead of Shulkie all shulked out and sexed up.

you know what, on further consideration, Matt should smash and mid-climax she shulks out.

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Brie Larson will be Carol Danvers. She's cute.

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>>84559475

>Give me Ronda Rousey or death.

Death it is then.

>>84557466
>If we are lucky, in 4 days
Is something happening in four days?

>>84560729
Glad to hear it anon. I never find an appropriate situation to use that.
Regarding Shulkie I used to be all aboard the Netflix bandwagon but the more I think about it the more I want her to be an Avengers supporting character. Maybe give her a TV spinoff if she's well recieved, like Coulson.

>>84561204
Comiccon i think

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>>84557466
Ahem

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>>84560733
>dat jaw
>dat pudge
Please, no

>>84561846
Yeah, no. She can't act worth a damn.

>>84562413
Yeah, no.

>>84557466
It has to be someone with no tits, no hips, thighs or ass, and willing to have a haircut like a male 80's garage punk musician.

>>84558904

I really hate the way most mainstream comics have gone. Why did they try and appeal to a market who were obviously never gonna buy them?

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I just want the actress to work out before shooting. I need MCU carol to cater to my muscle girl fetish

>>84559195
>attratctive

try again there mate, you might have made a mistake there

>>84560162
It's good in comparison. Not good in a sense of 8/10.

It went from 4/10 to 5.8/10.

I mean, Marvel has to maintain a captain marvel comic to fuck over DC, right? I don't think Carol is going anywhere. I want to read Captain marvel, too. But I really don't want to read about Canadians in space.

>>84559714
>Carol's ongoing is actually good, but fuck reading, right?
>having one good run=worthy of a movie
>Specially when there are much better options at hand
Look, I hope this Carol movie never gets made, because if it is, then it will fail. Carol is a nothing of a character, she has no big villains, no big side characters or even big story-line that would fit well into a movie, most of her history is inherited of Mar-vell, and they aren't even going to bother to put him in the movie, since they are so desperate to get their "Marvel's Wonder Woman", it's so fake it's hilarious, and the way she went from Literally Who to Strong Independent Female character that we all love from day to night is proof of that. I honestly lose complete respect for a female comics fan when I see them with that fucking Capt. Marvel Hoodie that they made a while ago.

>>84557947
I think you could just skip a she-hulk origin and make it a cosmic legal thriller. Shes cool

>>84560474
Spy is the only reason I want to see the new ghosts (also i like mckinnen). I was lukewarm on Bridesmades and thought the heat was to broad. But spy really impressed me.

>>84563216
>having one good run=worthy of a movie
Tony's only good run was Demon in a Bottle, and look at him now.

So will a Captain Marvel movie serve as basically a link between Guardians of the Galaxy and the Earth Based stuff?

>>84563553

It has to be. Carol's advantage is she can bridge the space stuff and the Earth stuff, which would normally be the job for either the Fantastic 4 or the X-Men but, well.

It's a smart move. It lets James Gunn live in his own bubble and still let Earth play around with the outer space toys. And it gives the Avengers a otherworldly brick for when Hemsworth decides his workout isn't worth it anymore.

>>84563627
Well at least until Marvel greenlights a Dick Rider movie.

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>>84563710

Sure thing anon, it'll be announced at the same time as the Moon Knight trilogy.

>>84563710
Riderfags don't even deserve a movie after all their bitchfits. I hope he never gets in the MCU just to spite those asshats.

>>84562603
Because those people are extremely loud and obnoxious, while we're too introverted to trouble the companies.

>>84563216
Anon, don't be silly. The movie is coming out and it won't flop, because that's how the MCU is.

>>84563845
Law of probability states that there has to be one Marvel flop

>>84563892
Inhumans, if they ever make that.

>>84563907
Anyone who thinks Inhumans are a poisoned property are newfags who aren't familiar with them at all prior to the T-Bomb shit.
There's about a .1% chance that MCU would even use this "new" version of Inhumans anyways. They'd be much better suited as Space Royalty anyways.

>>84563971
Okay, so why would Captain Marvel be the flop then?

>After Credits scene of Captain Marvel shows a Terrigen mist wash over a party in Jersey City.
Yes or no.

>>84561955
Her jaw is fine.

>That pudge

Please. Brie Larson looks slim and fit.

>>84563710
Carol will have her movie first. If it's halfway decent and makes Ant-Man money at a bare minimum, then then Marvel sure as hell won't ditch Carol for some Dick Rider.

>>84561204
>4 days.

It's actually 6 days. Marvel Studios won't have their big hoopla until the 23rd.

>>84564023
It won't. Carol has a good character buried somewhere underneath all of her baggage from shit writers. She desperately needs a film to cut through all the shit, and give the comic writers something new to go off of.
Plus, Carol has a lot of "action" pieces going for her that would make a good blockbuster even at a fundamental level. She's a blonde bombshell, she punches things, space nonsense, explosions. Even if it's a mediocre movie, I'm sure they can scrape together enough action setpieces to make it watchable for most people.

>>84562896
I'd give it a 7 at least.
Then again that might be comparison to the entire ANAD line talking.

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>>84563216
My my where to start?

>>84563710
Rider has less personality than Carol.
Let that sink in for a moment.

So have they said whether it'll be modern generic Carol?

>>84564201
>blonde bombshell punching things

Add that to real flight sans hammer or tech.

There's also energy absorption to make Carol's powers unique.

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>>84564028
Before they officially announced th lineup I hoped/expected the Inhumans to just be supporting characters in Captain Marvel.
Here's hoping they downsize it into a Captain Marvel sequel just to spite Ike.

>>84564375
All we know from the horse's mouth is what >>84557958
said.

>>84563751
Netflix series.
The meme is Netflix series.
>>84563892
Yeah. Hulk. :^)

>>84564426
I think we can safely assume that any of the alcoholism will be absent.

>>84564505
>Marvel still refuses to adapt Demon in a Bottle.

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Hngh

>>84564544
>Marvel excises all instances of smoking and nudity from a Netflix series marketed towards adults and already deals with alcoholism and rape.
>They refuse to give Nick Fury his Cigar.

>>84564505
She could still have an addiction. Maybe she's addicted to danger of needlessly risking her life just for the sheer thrill of it.

>>84564725
#YOLO

>>84564725
>Captain Marvel ends up being a send up of Top Gun and Lethal Weapon with Carol being the unhinged hot shot action hero and Jess being her by-the-books partner/handler.
>there's an almost uncomfortably long scene dedicated to the homoerotic subtext between them

I'd watch it.

>>84557608
>no one likes her.
I like her.

>never had a good comic
every time Brian Reeds Ms Marvel run is posted it's enjoyed. It's not a god tier comic but it's good and very enjoyable. but all you faggots keep yelling about how she's never had good stuff. You just have never read the stuff, both Claremont and Busiek have done good stuff with her.

But all this would take reading and not just bitching about how you hate wymen right? Fucking /tv/ in this place has ruined it

>>84559714
Yeah, shame they're relaunching with a new creative team in a COMPLETLY different premise, right?

>>84564884
I like her as well.

>>84564884
>>84565016
I also like Carol.

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>>84564877
me too. pretty close to what she needs, IMHO.

>>84564953
this. Reed's run, her current run are both very good. read more comics, faggots.

>>84564659
Came here to post this.

>>84560733
She's also a womanlet.

>>84564884
>>84565016
>>84565034
>>>/tumblr/

>being excited about a shit character
Wow, /co/ has really turned to shit this summer.

>>84563553
That would be great if we were going to be getting her movie before or during Infinity War. Isn't it slated for 2019? It'd be a great place to debut a new Infinity Gem as well.

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Odds on marvel using Carols movie to start setting up Secret Invasion as the next big event?

>>84565105
fuck off. let /co/ have their waifu threads
because this thread is obviously dedicated to someone's waifu

>>84564505
Alcoholism didn't come up until 30 years into her character history. AFTER she'd given birth to her rapist, been tortured by xenos, totally spaced on her mentor's death etc..

>>84564544
Not much of a movie is it?

>>84565263
And?

>>84565102
Need a hug?

>>84565105
Yeah, why were people excited for Iron Man? :^)

>>84565263
alcoholism is more of a defining part of Stark than Carol anyways. The reason she took to drink was cause she got depowered from god like powers. So it wouldn't really make sense to have her do that story anyway.

>>84565143
Can they even use Skrulls?

>>84565385

yeah, just no Super Skrull

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>>84565143
Would rather they just go the Civil War route and make it a Captain Marvel sequel.
It sounds like a right step down from Infinity War, a step sideways from more personal options like Under Siege, and frankly Bendis doesn't deserve any better.

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>>84565102
>>84565105
apparently it is impossible for you to understand that people may have different opinions than you do. You also have trouble understanding that your opinion isn't automatically right. Or even intelligent. Mocking people for being different is a sign of a socially immature person, such as a teenager or autistic man-child.

So why don't you go cry yourself to sleep, like you do every night, so the rest of us can have a discussion here?

>>84565222
the only one using the word "waifu" is you.

>>84565263
I don't think modern Marvel would want any of that in a movie. Too triggering.

Really the only old Ms. Marvel stuff they could work with without being too offensive would be the dual-personality thing.

>>84565324
Just saying. It was character development decades in the making. Not a trait that she had from the beginning. Or the run that introduced it, for that matter.

>>84565117
>IW1: Thanos destroys Xandar and gets the power stone. Guardians try to stop him, but Thanos is too strong. Thanos invades Earth. Both Cap and Iron Man's teams try to fight Thanos but get stomped because the two teams can't work together. Thanos kills Vision and takes the mind stone.

>CM: At the end of her movie, Carol leaves Earth to find some help to fight Thanos.

>IW2: Captain Marvel finds the Guardians and convinces them to go to Earth and team up with the Avengers.

See Anon, it can be done.

>>84565442
Okay.

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>>84565426

MIght as well have just made a new original character for the MCU.

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>>84565429
How about they ditch any and all Ms Marvel material and fully embrace the brandname they're actually advertising?
Well, maybe keep the genocide.

>>84565442
*Or for long after the run that introduced it

>>84565478
I'm not a feminist. I'm not even a woman. I just like Captain Marvel. But, apparently that's a crime here. Have you considered growing up a little?

>>84565523
Are you suggesting a movie starring a white male? Do you know what year it is?

>>84557473
Watch your god damned mouth.

>>84565523
It's pretty obvious they're just using her because they need a need female character to market. Which I don't have a problem with, but they could at least use a character that doesn't need to be completely wiped. I don't know about you guys but I'm itching to get my She-Hulk on.

>>84565385
I believe so. Word is, they're saving them.

>>84565618
They could've just used Scarlet Witch, who's a long standing member of the Avengers and has a fanbase. Forcing people to like Carol by going so far as to make pretty much the entire Marvel Universe call her iconic and inspirational whenever they see her isn't the way to go. She's like Poochie at this point.

>>84565587
Nah. I'm saying keep Carol, her personality, her backstory, but for everything else draw from old Captain Marvel comics for inspiration. Her spinoff comics were solid, but bland in comparison.
>>84565618
I don't think she will be completely wiped. As a character at least, for all I know you mean costume, supporting cast etc.

>>84565728
>keep Carol, her personality, her backstory, but for everything else draw from old Captain Marvel comics for inspiration
That's a pretty solid idea actually.

>>84565712
If characters themselves were what Marvel cared about we would have had Black Widow and Hawkeye movies in Phase 1.
It's about brand. Carol has had a distinct brand since the 70s, and is the standout of an even older, bigger brand on top of that. She has always been the obvious choice.
Besides, even if Wanda did have over 100 standalone stories under her belt, she's be redundant. Strange has that MCU niche filled.

>>84557466
>Emily Blunt

Ew no.

>>84565712
I think they want a character to be the be-all-end-all female fighter of the Marvel Universe like DC has Wonder Woman, but I don't feel they really have that. It seems like most of the notable ones are strictly part of a team or off-shoots of others.

>>84565712
>They could have used Scarlet Witch

Please. Wanda isn't even a solo character. Her current sales reflect that. She has no support characters except for Vision and no rogues gallery except for Vision. Carol has been more iconic than Scarlet Witch even before her movie push.

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>>84565712
I'm glad they're using Carol and I want Carol to be as popular as other characters, but I agree with
> make pretty much the entire Marvel Universe call her iconic and inspirational whenever they see her isn't the way to go.
I agree, it's very obnoxious.

>>84565712
>She's like Poochie at this point.
More like Disgruntled Goat.
Jane's Poochie.

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>>84565852
>Her current sales reflect that.
And here...
We...
Go.

Didn't Brie Larsen get this role?

>>84565852
>Her current sales reflect that.
Carol doesn't and never has sold either.

>>84557947
>they're dick shy to have a legit Hulk movie again.
That's because Universal owns the distribution rights to a solo Hulk movie. That's why they haven't produced more.

>>84565916
it's rumored that she was the frontrunner, but it's not confirmed yet. We'll probably find out at SDCC

>>84565852
>She has no support characters except for Vision
Agatha, Whizzer, her real/adopted/real parents, the twins, that fucking cow
>and no rogues gallery except for Vision.
What the fuck even? Anyway, High Evolutionary, Dr Pandemonium, Chthon and his trusty sidekick Modred, Emerald Warlock :^).
>Carol has been more iconic than Scarlet Witch even before her movie push.
Eh. I guess. I was vaguely familiar with Carol's image before X-Men Evolution introduced me to Wanda.

>>84565963
Ah, okay.

For someone who's only read Ms. Marvel when she wss in team books and didn't have that dumb hair cut, how old should she be? I've seen people here post actors with twenty years age difference.

>>84563216
>most of her history is inherited of Mar-vell, and they aren't even going to bother to put him in the movie

What makes you think that? You can't tell Carol's origin without Mar-Vell and most likely the CM movie is to set up the Kree as a huge evil alien race.

>>84565845
Yeah. Carol's the best option. Which wouldn't even be the case had Starlin not killed Marv and the name not been hot potatoed. Then she'd be in the same boat as She-Hulk.

>>84565950
>Carol doesn't and never has sold either

That's not true. Brian Reed's run saw sales as high as 60K with average sales between 30-40K. Wanda's comics can't even break 20K. While Carol has had less than favorable sales, I can at least point to a time in which her comics did sell.

>>84563710
I bet we'll get one after Thanos destroys Xandar

>>84566127
Can't find the pic but in the late 80s her driver's license said 28.
In more recent decades the bigged up her Air Force experience so anyone old enough to relay grizzled veteran works too.

>>84566208
Dick Rider movie, anon. Not Nova movie.

>>84566234

Yeah, a Dick Rider movie. Why else was John C Reilly cast as Rhomann Dey (who gave Richard the power of Nova)

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>>84566444
How distraught are you going to be when he gives them to Sam instead?

Brie's a good actress, I wouldn't mind if she got the part.

I only hope that she'll work out for the movie. Also, I think the movie has potential, it's written by Nicole Perlman and one of the writers of Inside Out. I'm curious now who they'll choose as a director, there haven't been rumors about that.

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>>84559984
My nigga. Only woman who even comes close to resembling Carol.

>>84564659

Would have been spot-on perfect.

Think she is a little old now, though.

>>84558698
And pretty dumb. Her acting is only basic.

>>84557605
>Because they deserve their movies just like anyone else?
I assume by they you mean real life women and not fictional women because fictional characters don't deserve anything. This is America, baby, where the only thing you deserve is life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

>>84566946

I won't because I know there is no way Fiege will use Sam over Richard.

>>84565845
Nah, they want her to be their Superman. I see her as policing the MCU capes in a post-Civil War landscape working for the government initially, before all the space shit.

>>84567748
>you live in a world where Fiege will give you the Dick

>>84562603
They want to transcend print and go into the annals of cultural history through the moving pictures art form. Also, money.

>>84563845
They will focus group the shit out of this thing until it's an entertainment nuclear weapon.

>>84565143
I see the next big event as Dark Avengers with Michael Keaton as Osborn

>>84565443
This will happen because of Drax's offhand comment re: Earth. "I must visit it sometime"

>>84566152
They're going to cast a 'next big thing' actor for Mar Vell. I predict Jamie from Outlander.

>>84567105
Apparently has the same name as the actress. So:

Katheryns Wynnick and Bigelow?

>>84568210
There was also the Emily Blunt and Emily Carmichael duo.

Things might change though, at this point I think Brie Larson got the part. I'm not sure if there's a director that has Brie as a first name.

>>84559149
There have always been carolfags anon

>>84559038
>Girls ever having to change their body for a film
Lol

>>84565587
Literally every single Marvel film stars a white male you dumbass.

>>84568099
I think thats what they are going for too. I just hope they get F4 in time to use doom. Loki, Doom and Osborne are the onky ones i need for that

>>84567230

This is true.

>>84568608

So? Literally every single Tyler Perry movie stars a black male. Nobody has a problem with that.

>>84557833
>"She Hulk totally deserves a fucking movie by now."

The She Hulk can't keep a solo title going for more than a year. "Dies" in a Major Comic Book Event. Her "death" doesn't make headlines. She can't get a cameo in Net Flix, the MCU or even an Easter Egg in any Marvel film or TV product.

Face facts, Marvel has no idea what to with her on Paper. She'd be a waste of CGI budget.

>>84558993
>girls
>something tight

I'm not seeing the issue here.

>>84568858
I don't think they can even use She-Hulk, some random person has some of her rights.

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>>84568099
>Dark Avengers with Osborn
>When you already have Zemo

>>84566093
After House of M, Wanda became irrelevant. At about the same time, Marvel started pushing Carol and now she has her own movie. I'm not surprised. Wanda is a cool, I guess but she's a bad choice for a solo lead. She's too similar to Doctor Strsnge.

>>84568736
Just give them a turn. They were slaves ffs.

>>84569244
They will soon meet when he becomes an Avenger.

>>84569117
He dead, son.

>>84568608
Now you know why they're always a success.

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I want it to be Charlize Theron so badly.

I don't care if that's memey or casual or whatever, she's perfect for the part.

>>84567900
Sadly, Superman is a likeable, moral iconic character with a few weaknesses.

One Punch Dyke lacks of those traits or any interesting flaws.

>>84568099
>I think Michael Keaton is playing Norman osborn in a MCU movie when he has already been cast as vulture in a MCU movie

>>84569700
The person who got put into a coma and wgen she woke up she had no attachments to any of her friends or family before has no interesting flaws?

>>84557518
I dont mind female superhero movies. As long as they are not genderswaping a male superhero for it. Ww is the exception. But that is because of personal distaste for the character

>>84569700
>or any interesting flaws
t. Monicafag

>>84569244
And even then Carol had an ongoing and a career renaissance under Busiek before House of M.

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let it be my perfect Irish princess

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>>84557473
Fuck off Ronda

>>84569457
I feel like she was already emma frost

>>84569344
Do you even watch the movies?
>>84569358
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH SNAP

>>84569854
Didn't she already turn down Scarlet Witch? Or is that just a rumor?
But Hanna is wonderful and proves she has some physicality.

>>84559714
>Carol's ongoing is actually good
The thing is that this Carol Danvers is a complete different character than before
Also, one good run RIGHT NOW is nothing

>>84570319
>claremont
>busiek
>reed
>one run

>>84568736
Even black people don't care for Tyler Perry movies

>>84570378
Stop making shit up.

>>84569854
Too young. May as well cast Elle Fanning

>>84569788

Superman has normal human intellect, Krytonite, no resistance to magic & a strong moral code that prevents him from straight up slaughtering 99.9999% of his foes.

Carl Danvers has ________?

Besides a shitty hairstylist, I mean.

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>>84570425
Yeah.
Why don't you?

>>84570495
An interesting personality. She doesn't have a stick up her ass like Supes, is actually funny and has a confidence problem as well as anger issues.

>>84570319
>it's a casuals regurgitate shitposts they've seen on /co/ episode

>>84570633
>Carol doesn't have a stick up her ass

>>84570657
Yes, that's what I said.

>>84570704
Yes and my green texting is implying sarcasm meaning she does indeed have a stick up her ass.

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>>84570486
That's not the worst idea, anon


but my choice

>>84570633
>>84570657
We're taking "stick up her ass" to mean "frumpy moralfag" right?
Not something I associate with Supes desu. Or at least well-written Supes.
Carol can be plenty frumpy in her own right but not over morals.

>>84570319
Claremont and Reed's runs on Ms. Marvel are both good. The current run is pretty good.

In fact, looking at it, KSD's run is the only actually BAD run she's had, it's just that that's the run that everyone who didn't start reading until after the MCU became a thing are familiar with.

No, none of her runs are great. She lacks a definitive story that you can point to that's a true classic or anything. But all of her runs ranged from good to decent, with the one exception of KSD's run. She actually has a better average track record than Iron Man if we're just looking at solo adventures.

And the other thing that people seem to always look over when it comes to this is that this isn't going to be Carol Danvers in a vaccuum. This is a Captain Marvel movie. Mar-vell will be in it. Genis and Phylla could show up in future movies. Any of the stories from Mar, Genis, Phylla, or even Monica's stints are open season. And Captain Marvel, overall, has had plenty of fantastic stories. PAD and Starlin's runs on the books are both among the best cosmic stories Marvel has.

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>>84570911

>>84570911
She doesnt have a definitive run but those writers have each done something really good with her. Clarmknt with the brood, busiek with alcohol and reed with either her past none power story or her vrs moonstone. Although my fav reed story is cru

>>84570911
>This is a Captain Marvel movie. Mar-vell will be in it. Genis and Phylla could show up in future movies. Any of the stories from Mar, Genis, Phylla, or even Monica's stints are open season.
Aw you're so naive it's almost endearing

>>84570633
>She doesn't have a stick up her ass like Supes, is actually funny and has a confidence problem as well as anger issues.

Anger Issues? That's a Given for 90% of the MCU. Confidence? Gets two friends killed versus Thanos. Says she'd do it all again after being called out on her idiocy of bringing 6 C listers to a cosmic level event. She has balls, just no brains.

wait
no
okay
in this movie
Carol IS Mar-Vell

>>84571271
It's not like iron man hasn't brought rhodey to fights like that before. This meme is boring

>>84571271
That's because Bendis is writing her. Writing characters out of character is kind of his thing.

>>84571271
>Bringing 6 C-listers

She literally brought the Ultimates(Black Superman, Monica, and Ms America), She-Hulk, War Machine,and a few c-listers

>>84571244
And you're needlessly cynical to the point of nausea.

>>84571436
And yet, she's the first to get people killed vs. Thanos. People follow her why?

>>84571510

Boring Sentry.

Failed Avenger Leader.

#stronglatinalesbianpowerhouse

Hulkette.

Palette Swapped Iron Man knock off.

Yep, I wouldn't bring all the Real Avengers, X Men, Thor, what's left of the FF. No sir. Give me Minoriteam any day.

>>84571853
Oh yes.

I forgot a woman who animates her own hair.

I also forgot Nico & Dazzler. My bad.

>>84567230
>>84568711
It's not.

36 is the right age for Carol.

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>>84571853
>notoriety = power level
W E W lad

>>84571853
>I wouldn't bring all the Real Avengers
Have you looked at the Avengers roster lately? Because half of them are 15-16. The only ones there that would have been any help would be Iron Man (who would have been against the whole thing), Vision and Thor (who they can't contact because they don't know her secret identity).

>X Men
They had the Inhumans there already, and bringing the X-men into an Inhumans operation would have just complicated matters. Also they presumably didn't have time to try and open a portal to hell to go ask them for help when they only had a couple hours to work with.

>what's left of the FF.
Johnny was there and Thing is in space.

Her mistake was bringing Rhodey in at all. The rest of the team was solid.

>>84571436
But the reason Tony brings is because he knows to utilize him in Operation Human Shield

Where as Carol mistakenly believed he was in any other role.

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>>84571924
>Has the looks
>Can act
>Can play a flyboy
>Right age

I'm going to be disappointed if they pick anyone other than her. Good news is they did ask her about her filming schedule when a lot of people were saying they wanted her for the role a few years go.

But it's been so long who knows. I'm not sure I can trust Marvel to get this done right.

>>84571804
Csuse she respects people more than iron man. Stark can be a total fucking ass, look at CW 1 and 2

>>84572036
Bad news, I think they want someone who can actually act.

>>84571947
I haven't read any of Marvel's recent stuff but from what you're saying it seems that the universe is not as well-equipped these days.

>>84571947
This. Ultimates is the biggest power houses right now. For whatever reason they could find squadron supreme, havent been reading since issue 2.

>>84559714
Since when?
Because I gave up back when the most creative idea they could think to do was give her a cat from an alternate dimension.

My only real concern is that they'll fall into that same pitfall they did at the start of her KSD run, and routinely with FemThor and yeah, since it got brought up a couple times, the way that was brought up with regards to ghostbusters.

The problem where a female lead means the story has to be a "so there" and go out of its way to smash the patriarchy.

I have no problem with female led stuff but lately it's getting kind of boring and condescending where guys get to fight ninjas and robots and aliens and gods and do all kinds of cool action shit, while women all seem to be stuck fighting straw-Absorbing-man while he tells them to get back in the kitchen, or time traveling back to show all the badass ladies of world war 2, or taking a break out o the narrative to talk about the nerd haters on youtube and then go shoot the villain in the penis.

Just have a good story and stop trying to run an unnecessary defense at the same time.

>>84572088
ICEEEEEEE

>>84572173
So you gave up 20 years ago?

She's being written pretty good now in both ultimates and her solo. It just sucks that marvel thinks they need to shoe horn her into CW. Cause that shit is terrible

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>>84571271
>Anger Issues? That's a Given for 90% of the MCU.
>Hulk
>Thor... way back in his first movie
>Um, Tony I guess? All it took was footage of his parents being murdered
>...

>>84572365
Anon. The cat thing was from 2014. He's a newfag who's probably only even in this thread because FEMINISM REEEEEEEEE.

>>84572100
The strongest teams right now are the Ultimates (who were there), the Squadron Supreme (who most consider criminals for killing Namor and destroying Atlantis), and AIM's New Avengers (who aren't allowed to operate on US soil because of the whole "science terrorists" thing).

>>84572317
"Kind of condescending"?

The audience and readers aren't fucking idiots that need to be talked down to.

>>84572365
I gave up like 2 years ago. Last thing I read was when she was off in space with the Guardians maybe?

And really it wasn't even just Carol it was comics in general because my LCS closed down and made it hard to keep up.

>>84572496
I thought that but then Hellcat happened so now I don't know anymore.

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>>84572317
>or taking a break out o the narrative to talk about the nerd haters on youtube and then go shoot the villain in the penis.
Won't lie: one of my dream scenes for the movie is a dude called Marcus hitting on her in a really slimy way and her dickkicking him.

>>84572544
BED
U
G
S

>>84571945
Sorry, I think Marvel can do better than Affirmative Action super teams. Maybe they can't...

>>84572632
They can.

They just have a lot of people they need to fire first.

>>84572632
Oh.
It's you.

>>84572059
Tony is an asshole, however, he's a competent asshole.

He or Steve Rogers wouldn't have lost troops to friendly fire.

>>84572453
The extradimensional cat's from Reed's series. KSD just made it an alien.

Over 300 posts and not one anon suggested Kate McKinnon?

>>84572632
Ultimates is one of the best comics not just in marvel. A hame they are replacing rockafort. His art fit the book perfectly

>>84572715
Wait? Wasn't that the series that Galactus was hit with Bizzarro Red Kryptonite & went around restoring dead planets without starving to death?

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Would she get the dyke cut though?

Hope so

>>84572749
Uh only slightly right. Galactus was turned into the form he was supposed to be. The lifebringer

>>84572544
Hellcat is an all-ages book. It's literally written for 8 year old girls. It's still not a particularly good comic, but its audience is still literal children.

>>84572877
Sounds gay.

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>>84572903
It's based on Kirby's OG Galactus work, anon.
Hail to the King you plebian.

>>84572901
>It's literally written for 8 year old girls
I guess that one page people post all the time when mentioning Hellcat isn't quite as ridiculous in this context.

>>84572903
Only if you are a fag for status quo.

It takes the cosmic marvel and uses ir for a way to get very meta. Its goood

>>84572941
Well I guess I'll have to read that OG Galactus work then.

...Or any Galactus work. Haven't read a whole lot of FF yet.

>>84572972
You really should read Lee/Kirby's Fantastic Four. It's the best silver age comic Marvel has. Although the origins of Galactus that get referenced in Ultimates are actually from Lee/Kirby's Thor.

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It probably is going to Cheese Larceny but like some others above I'm still hoping that they'll go for someone who actually looks the part: gorgeous blonde, tall, leggy, athletic-looking, yet still stacked enough to fill out the costume. Half the battle won if they get someone who fits the role to begin with.

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>>84573225

>>84573413
Wow she works. But can she act?

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>>84573431
She's great on iZombie (but then the whole cast is fucking awesome). She's actually had a long career, dating back to Phil of the Future, with a smattering of mainstream and indie films thrown in.

>>84558433
You can't be serious.

Founding Avenger and one of Marvels first superheros of the Silver age. Ms. Marvel was a female Captain Marvel copy that failed after 23 issues. From the outset she wasn't good. Did Green Lantern run for 23 issues and get canned? No. Your comparison is moronic.

Guaranteed Hank Pym has been in more Avengers titles. It's not even close. I challenge you to find any source that says Carol has been in more.

Pym wins on villains too. Ultron, Whirlwind, Egghead, Yellowjacket. Carol has Mystique....kind of?

Carol is such a bland, boring ass character that she's gone through 4 name changes with powers only changing once.

It's a character that writers literally thought was so boring they had her give birth to her own rapist and become an alcoholic just so she would be more entertaining than watching paint dry.

Carol is a boring, bland, knockoff character who they keep trying to force down readers throats for some ungodly reason.

>>84573762
>Carol has Mystique....kind of?

Moonstone, man. She's got Moonstone.

Yeah.

>>84572877
How does he not starve to death?

>>84572901
>Hellcat is an all-ages book.
That is news to me. Art style aside it doesn't really read like a kids book ala Marvel Adventures.

>>84573026
I've read some of it.

>>84557518
>Movie bombs

>A much more deserving female character gets a movie.

Captain Marvel is shit. They changed too much of the original character and she hardly even resembles her previous self.

>>84573810
No she doesn't. Moonstone debuted in Captain #192 America, fought the Hulk #228, joined the Masters of Evil and fought the Avengers #230 (before Carol was a member)http://www.comics.org/issue/903761/ then became a Thunderbolt all before being an enemy to Carol.

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>>84573762
>and become an alcoholic just so she would be more entertaining than watching paint dry.
Seeing her alcoholic escapades in a few issues of Avengers is what got me interested in her.

>>84574015
Cited sources. Is this real life?

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>>84574003
>Captain Marvel is shit. They changed too much of the original character and she hardly even resembles her previous self.
You could always just leave the thread there, Spidey.

>>84570639
I think you're the casual/newfag here. Carol legit acts nothing like she use to. She's just some strange distorted shadow of what she use to be.

>>84573910
Because Leth is a bad writer.

>>84574080
Maybe I'm just weird but for some reason I like Spider-Man a lot better outside of his own comics.

>>84558487
I don't hate you either Carol. I think your kicking ass in the comic!

Though, you should let your hair grow out some. Shoulder length is good...

>>84572691
Which makes no sense since she picked it up on an alternate Earth

>>84574243
Slott lost his touch years ago and refuses to leave Spidey, that's why he's worse in his own comic. On the flip side, the only reason why Peter is still alive is because Slott doesn't want Bendis to kill Peter. Being a spider fag is suffering.

>>84573762
No let's be serious, the only people who still give a shit about Hank Pym or60 year old farts who start every sentence with "back in my day..."

He's a founding Avenger who's only really known for beating his wife and creating a genocidal robot.

Carol's first solo run didn't last long because Marvel didn't know how to handle female characters until a guy called Chris Claremontcame around.

According to Comicvine, Hank Pym has appeared in over 3100 comics, while Carol has been in 2900 comics. It's not a huge difference, really. But unlike Hank, Carol has been a very relevant character in recent years. That's why Carol's getting a movie and not Mar-Vell or Monica. It is also the same reason why Scott Lang is the current Ant-Man in the movies and not Hank Pym.

As far as villains? Please, the only notable villain Hank has is Ultron. Carol's villains haven't been great, but at least she has Moonstone. There's also the Brood and Dr Minerva.

>>84574243
Well considering his own comics have been either Slott or Bendis in recent years, I can't blame you.

>>84572118
Squadron Supreme murdered Namor, they're outlaws

Probably could have grabbed some of the Unity team though

>>84574341
>>84574352
No, I mean before all that shit hit the fan. I stopped reading Spider-Man after the clone saga.