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>Gets War Machine killed
>Gets She-Hulk killed
>Gets Hulk killed
At least the younger heroes are getting redpilled.
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>>84471842
She-hulk's not dead.
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>>84471842
Carol Danver hates non-whites.
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>>84471842
Thanos killed Rhodey. The Hulk killed himself, and he deserved it.
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>>84471842
>this one's for you carol
>kamala crashes plane into wtc
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>>84471842
>>Gets Hulk killed

What did I miss?
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>>84471912
She'll be true waifu once she drops the raghead shit
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>>84471912
>who is Anni Cyrus
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>>84471842
How exactly did Jen and War Machine die? Haven't read those issues.
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>>84471842

Is she going to changer her name? NOOOOOO, I can see some bullshit about ''I'm going to stand for this name even if the real Ms. Marvel sucks now!''
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>>84471866
I know she survives according to the rumors but it REALLY looked like she died in that scene. Thanks Bendis...
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>>84471952
Clint killed Banner
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>>84471952
Newest Issue of Civil War.
>Futurequeer sees the future, its Hulk killing everyone
>Naturally Carol and Tony go to see Hulk and bring everyone because when you see the deaths of everyone obviously you set the table for that situation to occur
>They start talking to Bruce who says he hasn't had a Hulking in a year
>They say they saw what he saw and then they say they invaded his Server to see what he was doing
>He starts calling them the douchebags they were
>He gets shot in the face by Hawkeye who said he was totally going to Hulk, also a week ago Bruce gave him a Hulk Killer Arrow.
>All of this is framed in Hawkeye being on trial for murder
>The comic ends when Tony turns on the TV and sees something that shocks him....
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>>84471996
>I know she survives according to the rumors
The recap for the very next issue after it happened says that she entered a coma. At no point does anyone ever say she was dead, and there's been multiple points in story where people have said she's in a coma. Yeah, Bendis should have made that more clear, but it's not a "rumor" thing. It's explicitly stated.
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>>84471912
I don't understand this post.
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>>84472019
There is some kinda abstract bullshit going on
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>>84472061
That was probably a last minute change due to the leak in January.
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>>84471928
>Allows the superhero equivalent of a toddler to a fight against Thanos
>Not to blame for his death

>Takes the entire superhero community to confront ticking time-bomb Banner
>Not to blame for him losing his shit

I'll grant you she couldn't have known Clint would go off the handle.
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>>84472099
Religion is blue pilled by definition. You did not come to the conclusion that god exists yourself. It's a societal meme.
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>>84471975
War Machine got punched through the torso by Thanos, She-Hulk got hit by War Machine's anti-Thanos missile by accident.
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>>84472167
Are you telling me a most of /pol/ is mistaken when they say they are redpilled?
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>>84471975
War Machine got punched through the chest by Thanos. Jen isn't dead. She's in a coma caused by getting hit by War Machine's anti-thanos missile.
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>>84472061
>War Machine was totally qualified to fight Thanos, he had anti-Thanos missiles!
>Missile couldn't even kill She-Hulk
So much for that, then.
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>>84472061
I mean, the last time we saw She-Hulk she was in an emergency room and her life support machine was flatlining, right?
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>>84472195
We have been redpilled enough to not be fooled by things like "religion" and "God."
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>>84472150
>Warmachine makes a novice mistake and it is somehow everybody else's fault

>Banner doesn't hulk out and only gets shot by clint because Bruce gave clint an arrow and told him to shoot him

Why the fuck did he use the anti-hulk arrow on the still human Banner
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>>84471842
Great. Kamala is a legacy hero who immediately outdid her mentor character in every respect of success and was being held back by the affiliation.
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>>84471912
>against alcohol
>put woman in their place
>know that democracy doesn't works
>actual religious people
>pretty good shit happens during their golden age
>loyal with their family
>not redpilled

IMFUCKINGPLYING.
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>>84472257
Yeah. And then after that point she enters a coma, something that Bendis chose to explain via throwaway dialogue because he's a hack.
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>>84472187
>>84472209
I see, thanks.
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>>84472293
Carol knew War Machine didn't stand a chance against Thanos and shouldn't have let him come along, let alone let him be the central part of his plan of attack.
>Let's have all these powerful heroes distract Thanos
>War Machine, you come in for kill by shooting him with guns
>Adam and Monica, sit on the back and do nothing
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>>84472195
For /pol/ religion is a mean to an end, a tool that can be discarded or changed when it doesn't fulfill it's function
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>>84472293
>Why the fuck did he use the anti-hulk arrow on the still human Banner
This was the biggest glaring thing here. I get that he was probably just freaked out, but the point of an anti-Hulk arrow is that you can use it on THE HULK.

If you're just going to shoot the guy before he's even started changing just because he has that "I'm going to change soon" look in his eyes, then you can just use a normal arrow. The Anti-Hulk arrow becomes unnecessary.
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Iam really, seriously, not looking forward to CW2 in the future if its based on this bullshit
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>anti thanos missle
>anti hulk arrow
Jesus fucking christ
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>>84472099
"Redpilled" is /pol/'s buzzword.

/po/ hates non-white Anglo Saxon American/British Protestants.
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>>84472319
>sidestepping
I don't think you have a full grasp on either that word or what is going on here.
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>>84472399
Don't forget the anti-mutant mist.
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>>84472399
>Anti Jesus set consisting of: Nails, planks and some spear
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>>84472099

She belongs to a religion where the ORIGIN nation of said religion stone women to death, throw gay people off rooftops, marry children and breed with their cousins to this day.

But Muslims are "OK" people in america (because they are forced to abide by american law and cannot do those things)
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>>84472345
It was Monica's plan anon
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>>84472400
>non-white Anglo Saxon American/British Protestants.
Literally the definition exploitative and perfidious.
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>>84472150
>Literally had Black Superman and Black Female Energy Superman backing them up
>They still ate it hard
Carol can't hold their hands forever. Some people ust can't cut it.
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>>84471842
None of those people she got killed are white. Nice job Bendis.
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>>84472462
The FUCK does that have to do with redpilliing?
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>>84472494
Carol shouldn't even be allowed to hold anyone's hands.
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>>84472508
Are you merely pretending?
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>>84472508

She can't be very "woke" if she's an active member of a fucking religion that does those things.
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>>84472501
>Bruce
>Jennifer
>not white
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>>84471912
Muslims tend to be among the most demographically conservative/right-leaning, you drone.
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>>84472551
conservative/right-leaning=/=red pilled
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>>84472427
That's equally stupid, but at least it has an actual name and not "Anti-x weapon"
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>>84472544
They're green.
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>>84472544
They were Green and Transgreen
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>get kamala a haircut
the worst decision marvel has ever done
I'd take a thousand OMDs over this.
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>>84472494
I misread Black Superman as Black Spider-Man, remembered that Miles was there and while he was not directly in danger so his Spider sense didn't need to go off I still wonder why is it Carol had a bunch of people there with enhanced senses and speed, looking at you Quicksilver, yet no one noticed and intercepted the arrows. If they were all so on edge and ready for battle the slightest things should have set off defense maneuvers.

The answer of course is: Bendis. But still. There's writing yourself into a corner and then there's writing a corner around yourself. He intentionally put capable characters there and had them fuck up probably to "let people argue about it" and generate further attention to the idiocy so this event could coast off that sort of thing.
I'm not sure if it's brilliant, accidental or retarded. Or all 3.
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>>84472610
>Transgreen
>Trans
heehee
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>>84472631

She should be in a fucking burka
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>Bruce has been doing treatments for about a year to keep the Hulk in check
>Clint believes he saw him starting to Hulk out
I thought the point of Totally Awesome Hulk was that Bruce was completely Hulk-free now?
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>>84472533
>>84472536
>red pill means civilized
You two are retarded.
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>>84472705
>The vision showed Cho-Hulk fucking everybody up because they killed Bruce.
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>>84472705
We're probably going to learn that Ulysses vision fucked with Clint's perception or something.
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>>84472298
>their "golden age" was fucking rewriting Aristotle when we were already expanding and changing science paradigms

Now are simply bunch of savages and would be even by fucking XV century standards
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>>84472706
Red Pill means they've begun to exist outside their world and question the norms.

Right? Am I wrong? Also I'm not that Anon, or any of the Anons in this chain.
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>>84472400
>/po/ hates non-white Anglo Saxon American/British Protestants.
Fuck those paper folding motherfuckers
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>>84472302

I feel like Bendis wanted her gone and was overridden at the last moment.
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>>84472705

Glad I'm not the only one who is reading TA Hulk and scratching their heads reading Civil War
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>>84472195
It's just a literal reddit meme they brought with them when they came here.
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>>84472494
>implying anyone of them could do shit to Thanos

Enraged Thor barely can fight with Thanos on equal terms, neither of them comes close.
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>>84472826
How could you know that?
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>>84472113

It's a Bendis comic event, logic need not apply.
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>>84472705
Either Bendis still doesn't give a fuck or >>84472734 is right which would be amazing
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>>84471996
It even says in the comic that she doesn't die.

How stupid are you?
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>>84472775
But the post doesn't focus on people doing stuff because it is normal. It focuses on general violence, as if violence was the antithesis of being redpilled, which it isn't.
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>>84472829
Ewing or whoever handwaved it by saying Thanos was weakened for re-entering the universe or the teleportation or whatever.
Whichever way to go it seems once out of Bendis' hands it's made out Thanos feigned defeat so he could regather himself and what's going on, and regain the element of surprise.

I know the stakes it could result in if they go down that road just because of Bendis' tomfoolery, but I'll be a little disappointed if Thanos doesn't take interest in Ulysses considering how directly it inconvenienced him. Whether to use him to learn about the future or stop him from learning about his future plans, Thanos has to react someway. He's a thinker, he can't just shrug about that sort of shit.

Then again Marvel comics and disappointment go hand in hand these days.
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Can it be more Bendis that the event doesn't even follow its own continuity properly?
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>>84472895
Still, why is their immediate reaction to go to Bruce instead of the actual current Hulk?
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>>84472870
Because I'm older than the trees I tend and have traveled to many parts of this forest.
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>>84472999
1) Because Bendis
2) After all the incidents you can't blame them for associating "Rampaging Hulk" with anyone but the original, especially since (from what I remember) Cho hasn't had any incidents.
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>>84472048
So when is it going to be reviled that the "Futurequeer" is setting this all up to kill the heroes or something?
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>>84473127
I thought in a recent issue it was mentioned that there have been times where he's been blacking out?
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>>84472928
Unfortunately, Thanos has been written as a moderately dumb brute for a while now...

>Then again Marvel comics and disappointment go hand in hand these days

Sadly true.
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>>84473189
That would be too interesting and we also can't have Bendis's creation be EVIL!
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>>84472999
It would look really bad if the people that died in his event were a black man, a woman, and an asian man.
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>>84471842
Are we going to update the bingo sheet?
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>>84472361
Banner once shoot himself in the head.
The Hulk coughed them out.
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>>84472048
I thought Bendis wanted us to side with Carol. This is even more black and white than the first civil war event.
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>>84473583
Carol's done nothing wrong so far, but Tony's still acting like a giant baby for no reason.
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>>84473583
And Millar wanted us to side with Iron Man and Aaron wanted us to side with Captain America.
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>>84472928
Ewing has recently taken up the task of trying to solve Bendis's more retarded plot holes.
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>>84473189
>The Hulk is dead
>War Machine is dead
>She-Hulk is comatose

Honestly, it would make sense if the "Futurequeer" could see multiple futures and chose to tell Carol the ones that would get at least one hero/heroine put out of commission, while also using his ability to manipulate Carol into thinking that they're better off losing a few,as opposed to a lot. His endgame would probably be to rule the world with Carol as the unknowing puppet. I hope this is the reason for this event.
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>>84473617
Arresting people before they do something bad is pretty fucked up. The whole message of The Minority Report is that it's wrong to arrest people for precrime.

If Bendis works in an Alton Sterling reference I am going to be pretty pissed. He's just sensationalizing modern issues without any real nuance by turning all the characters into strawmen for his political agenda.
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>>84473700
>Arresting people before they do something bad is pretty fucked up.
It would be, if that's what was happening. All that's happened so far is major disasters being averted at the last moment.
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>>84473690
That would actually make him a pretty cool villain.
Because honestly I have no idea why this shit is even happen right after Secret Ward ended.
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>>84472432
jesus had his power level down during that moment
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>>84473781
In some of the tie-in comics that's what's happening. In one of the comics leading up to Civil War there was even a trial where She-Hulk defended a former villain who was arrested for what was seen rather than him doing anything (and lost the case).
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>>84473781
They haven't averted any disaster, they've just been killing each other.
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>>84473825
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPZszcH-U5Y
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>>84473583
To be fair Tony is just as guilty as Carol in this scenario . He condoned Banner's shitty treatment up to the point he got killed then pointed the finger at Carol.
>>84473700
If they arrested anyone who wasn't committing a crime or a fugitive you'd have a point. Hulk is the closest they've come to persecuting an innocent person and it read more like an intervention rather than an arrest. Up until he was shot, not on Carol's call.
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>>84472048
Isn't his whole power just seeing a potential future, not the actual future?
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>>84473886
Apparently.
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>>84473886
That's trivially true, since they change it by acting on it. Carol mentions it during Hawkeye's trial.
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>>84473854
>those voices
>that quality
>that editing
Disgusting.
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>>84473854
oh god what the fuck, this is how the anime looks?
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>>84473867
>He condoned Banner's shitty treatment
What? He's under Carol's custody for kidnapping, he has no say in the matter. He couldn't suit up or anything just be along for the ride.
He even tells Bruce to stay calm and that he believes in him no matter what.
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>>84473867
>tony is just as guilty as carol
People really have a hate boner for tony dont they.
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>Ulysses' powers stem from wifi bullshit that are actually Ultron patterns. That's why he comes into importance so much

Screencap this
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>>84473825
>>84473854
Friendly reminder that the Z-Fighters are actually really really weak compared to most of their enemies and are only powerful because of their ridiculous skill. Anything that could kill a human could kill them if they don't have their heads in the game.
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>>84474708
>and are only powerful because of their ridiculous skill.
That and Goku and Vegeta's ability to assume several increasingly more powerful forms, fuse, gather energy from various living beings, become stronger after being savaged if they recover, access to the dragon balls and connections in the afterlife and with time travelers that allow them to circumvent permanent defeat.
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>>84474588
You can have it
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>>84472775
Redpilled means you're seeing through the bullshit. In trekkie terms? "Sokath, his eyes open.".
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>>84473867
Tony didn't do anything nearly as bad as Carol. I have a sneaking suspicion that this whole tie-in is just a way to have a black Iron Man.

Also, anyone think it's funny that the supposedly "progressive" pro-black Bendis wrote a story in which the world police kill a man because he might be violent?

I don't know if it's just bad luck or a deliberate reference to the recent Philando Castile incident. If he continues to push the "Carol is always right" angle, he would be essentially saying that the cops were right to shoot people out of fear.
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>>84473250
Yup. Hulk's riding shotgun, and occasionally taking the wheel. No more trunk for him.
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>>84474855
It's cool. Carol is THE MOST POPULAR HERO after all, so it's cool when she does it.
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>>84471842
>Gets War Machine killed

Stopping fucking Thanos the intergalactic Death-obsessed douchebag.

>Gets She-Hulk killed

Nope.

>Gets Hulk killed

That was on Clint and Banner himself. If this entire Ulysses plot did not exist, Banner would've still had given Hawkeye the Hulk-Murder Arrow and made him promise to kill him should ol' greenskin return -- which he would.

Carol has yet to do anything wrong and Civil War 2 is fucking stupid.
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>>84475176
Her problem is trusting Ulysses and being an over-emotional idiot.
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>>84475242
This. Great leader right there.
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>>84475176
>"loving girlfriend" doesn't think to tell her significant other that hey maybe thanos is in 20 leagues above you, and no, anti-thanos missles will not help
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>>84471842
No, Bendis got Hulk killed. The disconnect between Totally Awesome Hulk's Banner and Civil War II's is fucking disgusting.

>thanks cho i'm not suicidal anymore and am content being hulkless now
>j/k actually experimenting on myself in the downtime and just as moody :P
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>>84475373
At this point Bendis should just write his own universe just so we can see how much of a cluster fuck it will become.
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>>84475444
He used to. It was called Ultimate.
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>>84472048
Has anyone but Hawkeye supported his "Bruce was totally about to Hulk out, I could see it." statement?
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>>84475373
I really hate to defend Bendis, but the thing is Bruce was in an okay mood until Carol got stern and silent about how she found his location and what she was doing there, then she started probing about what he was doing instead of explaining herself, then Tony decided to intervene by giving Bruce some fresh air and honesty outside for a rational discussion. Then Hank pushed things, then Bruce tried to defend his actions the others knew little about but were already accusing him of things he not only has not done but is trying to stop himself from ever doing, so he thought he was being ganged up on. Then Clint.

So basically it's still Bendis causing things to snowball, but Bruce's behavior is justified. If two people I sort of know but don't recall inviting in let alone informing them of my whereabouts popped up in my private residence and started doing a good cop/bad cop routine before asking me to step outside where I find a small army waiting I'd also get appropriately stressed about what sort of circus bullshit is being pulled now that I'm trying to set myself straight. Suffice to say I'd get even more upset if they tried to say I am not currently but in theory will be the cause of said circus bullshit. So while they have no idea what I'm doing, I'm just to believe they haven't gone insane from mind control or are being misled by skrulls or any number of things you have to deal with in Marvel.
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>>84472734
>exact same plot point of this week's vision

P O T T E R Y
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>>84473690
Sounds like the setup for a mindbreak doujin
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>>84471842
Is that civil war 2 bullshit? i mean, the one that they think one guy can predict the next move of everyone?

it's a retarded idea in the first place.
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>>84475662
The moody part I can get, it's the fact that contrary to TAHulk Bruce was still experimenting on himself. I still think Bruce was a bit more on edge compared to TAHulk but that can be chalked up to writer differences.
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>>84473690
If he doesn't actually turn evil, there really is no point to the event, is there?
It's the only way that they could wrap it up in a satisfying way and not have it be just an escalating misunderstanding.
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>>84471867
That must have been some kinky foreplay with Rhodey.
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>>84473827
that was before ulysseus, he was arrested for talking about it
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>>84475830
I remember people theorizing that this whole thing would be one giant vision of Ulysses' but considering how apparently CWII will tie into 2ironmen that's looking unlikely.
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>>84475818
The experimenting stuff I agree sounds like something Bendis pulled out of his ass to put Bruce in a bad spot since if Carol showed up and he was literally doing normal research they'd all have egg on their face.
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>>84475986
"What are you doing, Bruce?"
"Uh, playing Minecraft?
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>>84473886
Has Bendis revealed yet why this precog is somehow so much more important than the dozen or so other ones?
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>>84472912
Source?
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>anti-thanos missile
>anti-hulk arrow

Between this event and Miles' venom blasts, Bendis has to be the laziest writer in the business at the moment when it comes to fights.
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>>84473854
>superman has two eyes, each can fire a laser
>Goku is beaten by one laser
Superman Prime>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Darkseid=Superman at Full Potential>>>>Superman holding back>Two lasers>>>One laser>Foot of alien that is a huge fag>>>>>SSG Vegeta>SSG Goku>All Super Saiyan States that don't matter>Vegeta=Goku
Superman confirmed for being stronger due to what he can deal with
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>>84476006
>Earth 727, home of reasonable heroes
"And you're not being Hulk anymore?"
"Nope, Cho took that bullet for me. Tony and T'challa were there to see. Didn't they tell you? I thought you guys hang?"
"Oh, sorry to disturb you, then. And don't forget not to straight up or down... By the way, have you seen Amadeus around? I might have a few questions for him now."
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>>84472345

What's funny to me is how you say that War Machine didn't stand a chance against Thanos, but past feats of Thanos has shown that not a single person from that group is even close to ready to take him own without getting amped by some cosmic weapon or something.

If you say otherwise, you're really delusional if you think Black Panther could literally even scratch a sleeping non-jobbing Thanos. The guy's taken a blast from an angry Silver Surfer dead in the face and wasn't even tickled by it.

Bendis depowered Thanos for the group to take him down. War Machine was powerful enough to take him, it just went badly though, I guess.Tony has no reason to be mad about that. Fucking Ares got RIPPED IN FUCKING HALF by the fucking Sentry. Who's fault is that? Oh, that's right, NOBODY. Because Ares brought himself into battle of his own will and knew the stakes, just like Rhodey did, regardless of a prophecy or not.
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>>84471951
Underated post
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>>84473830
They stopped Thanks and a Celestial
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>>84476640
They stopped saying/giving Thanks? What an impolite society Bendis is crafting.
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>>84472826
/pol/ derives from /new/, not reddit.

reddit leans to the left of Malcolm X.
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>>84476640
>Thanks
Did they throw away their modals? Oh my.
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>>84476994
There is quite a lot to the left of religious authoritarians.
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>>84472048
>Hulk lives matter
how topical
how droll
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>>84476994
>reddit leans to the left of Malcolm X
Lmao
Reddit is just a milder 4chan
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>>84473886
It's just future math. But not happy general future math like Reed had. But dirty Inhuman specific future math.
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>>84473575
That was from the movie. But this arrow was designed to kill the hulk, so Barton jumped the gun and murdered him. Did bendis even know that banner can't hulk out any more? Guess continuity IS just a hurdle after all
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>>84476086
It's because he's written by Bendis?
That asshole thinks he's the next Stan Lee.
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>>84477877
Stan Lee? The Stan "The Man" Lee?
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>>84476120
From Civil War II #2
"She-Hulk was left in a coma"
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What are your thoughts on Ulysses? Do you think he'll get killed off, lose his powers, become a permanent fixture in 616? Any combination of the three?
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>>84479111
I enjoy his wimpish nature, but like all event characters he will fall into obscurity. Future sight powers never get used beyond plot device needs. His only hope is to find a permanent possession among the Inhumans that will allow him to have purpose in their stories.
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>>84479111
He's a corpse.
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>>84479434
What makes you say that?
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>>84472355
That sounds about right.
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>>84479728
He looks pretty evil at the end, he might die.
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Okay, I can live with Bendis' ignorance of continuity. Many of his early hits, like Jessica Jones and Ultimate Spider-Man, were blank slates story-wise and he could basically do anything he wanted to them with no consequence.

But why couldn't he at least think of a legitimate conflict for Civil War II to start on?

Even if he did want to go the precog route, why not have Ulysses predict Cap going Hail Hydra or any of the new premises for Marvel NOW, and half of the heroes want to stop it?
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>>84472536
She is not very devout, though. Just saying. She seems like she might even leave it once she's on her own away from her family. Maybe.
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>>84475519
Tony said it didn't look that way, and Clint was all "I can see better than you."

Yeah, Clint could see better than Tony, who was right next to Bruce, whereas Clint was inside some bushes like a hundred feet away.
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>>84479917
>guy known for good aim vs someone who cant make Gamora cum
I trust Clint
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>>84473700
Bendis is doing this for attention and money. Lazily referencing current hot button issues works for that.
Never forget that.
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>>84479950
But Banner didn't have any Hulk stuff, we know that as the audience, so Clint was wrong.
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>>84479866
Does like every other cover have Tony being beaten by someone?
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What is the crux behind this "Civil War 2" Conflict? I can't figure it out just by browsing /co/, it seems.
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>>84472048
You forgot to mention how Banner was actually cured of being the Hulk months ago and just hasn't told anyone besides Jen and Cho's family because he didn't want to risk his enemies trying to hunt him down and kill him while he had no healing factor.
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>>84480039
Except Ulysses saw him Hulked out, so obviously he did.
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>>84480261
>carol: We found an inhuman who can see the future! We'll use him to stop horrible human annihilating aliens.
>tony: Sick!
>carol: We'll also use his visions to arrest people before they get a chance to commit crimes!
>tony: Wait, no that's wrong.
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>>84479880
>a or any of the new premises for Marvel NOW
kek
>They're going to replace Iron man with some literal who, you need to stop it!
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>>84480328
He saw a Hulk, could have been Cho.
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>>84480339
So it's minority report: The Prequel? Isn't it kind of obvious which side is wrong, though? That's boring.
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>>84472494
It's more that Carol had 3 hours of advanced knowledge that Thanos was landing, and that he was coming after a Cosmic Cube, but instead of circling the wagons and asking for heavy hitter support she has all the guards of the base replaced with LMDs and has Warmachine and Medusa take point.... Yes that is the tactical genius that is leading the pro-future police side of the civil war.
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>>84480328
It's a paradox. Banner was going to hulk out precisely because they thought he'd hulk out and had to make such a fucking scene
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>>84473617
She got Warmachine killed, almost killed She-Hulk, endangered the world by potentially allowing Thanos to gain access to a cosmic cube, and caused the death of an innocent man who couldn't even Hulk out anymore because she was afraid of a different Hulk.

I mean seriously, even if you don't count the hidden Cho Hulk, there are and have been enough Hulks and Hulk-like characters in the recent Marvel U that they could have questioned why 'their' Hulk would suddenly decide to kill everyone and everything.
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>>84480380
It's especially clear when Carol rolls up to stop Thanos with third string Avengers, then is told Hulk will kill everyone and jumps Banner with the entire fucking Avengers roster.
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>>84473781
>>84473830
In fact they just caused the badend future where Hulk kills a lot of them, and all because they murdered Banner.
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So I know that the premise is "what if we could stop all crimes before they happen?", but thus far have they actually used this to stop crimes that don't involve superheroes/villains?
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>>84480647
Read the Ms. Marvel and Spider-Man tie ins. In the latter they stop a chick's disgruntled ex from murdering her and her boyfriend by catching him as he kicks in her door with guns a blazing.
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>>84480339
I just don't get why they can't take pre-emptive measures to deal with crimes and catch people in the act, it would no different than acting on a tip from a trusted source. Ulysses has a vision of a guy robbing a bank? Preemptively post superheroes there, potentially in civilian dress, have them jump him if the vision comes true. Vision of a terrorist attack? Close down the place that's supposed to be attacked and investigate the accused. That's my main problem with both this and the original Civil War: Why is a middle ground so impossible to find?
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>>84480380
It's obvious Tony is wrong, yes.
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>>84480761
>Why is a middle ground so impossible to find?
Because shut up and pay to see these heroes punch each other.
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>>84474708
>>84473825
It like people forgot Goku got hurt when Krillin nailed him on the head with a pebble.
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>>84475176
>Thanos is coming for a cosmic cube, we have 3 hours to prepare...
>Replace all the soldier in the base with LMDs so Thanos isn't suspicious.
>Set up a battle plan with Medusa and Warmachine being the frontline while the two most powerful members of their team get sidelined.
>Do NOT call for backup.
>Do NOT let anyone else know that the world might end if Thanos gets that cube.
>Do NOT even notify SHIELD about it.
>When Thanos arrives immediately challenge him, wasting all the time and effort of setting up the LMDs.

IF she isn't responsible for War Machine's death then I don't know who is. She put him in the path of Thanos, and he wouldn't have even been there if not for the fact that they were banging.

She-Hulk almost died because Medusa and War Machine were the front line against Thanos, and Thanos threw Medusa into War Machine which caused the missile to misfire. That is Carol's fault because it was her plan to risk the squishy people up front.

She went in there weapons ready with all hands ready to fight Hulk. She didn't even listen to Banner or try to talk to him privately to find out that he was cured from being the Hulk, and now because of everything they just caused the badend future they were worried about. Hawkeye shoots Banner in the chest with an arrow because he is saw a future where he dies by having a massive metal pole shoved through his chest.... DID NO ONE THINK THAT WAS A SELF FULFILLING PROPHECY?!?!?
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>>84471842
>redpilled
The irony that /pol/tards use a term from a movie funded by "jewish overlords" and crafted by two people turned trans is absolutely delicious.
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>>84481004
It was Monica's plan. Does anybody read Ultimates?
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Answer me, /co/
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>>84481180
It doesn't matter whose plan it was, Carol was leader and had final say. She should have used her years of experience to say "Medusa and War Machine aren't our biggest guns. Thanos is no joke so we hit him hard and fast with all our best shots the second he lands."
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>>84481193

Cause Travel Foreman's does good art, but frequently gets paired with colorists that don't know how to work with his super moody way of using shadow, so his stuff often looks like it's lit with a shop light
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>>84481257
How was Carol leader? They just got the vision and best they were team mates. Nobody there had any reason to listen to her orders.
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>>84480328
Bruce Banner isn't the only Hulk. It could have been Amadeus, or even a completely new Hulk.

No matter how you look at it, the way they responded was just wrong and stupid. The Hulk kills every hero? Better bring every hero to confront him in some big dramatic scene that will almost certainly stress him out and anger him! It would have been better to just send in a few people.
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>>84481257
>Carol isn't the leader of the Ultimates
>Isn't the leader of A-force
>Isn't the queen of the Inhumans and wouldn't even have access to Ulysses without Medusa's say so
She could have talked Rhodey out of it though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITgKLIWs5xY
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>>84481412
>>Isn't the leader of A-force
>>Isn't the queen of the Inhumans and wouldn't even have access to Ulysses without Medusa's say so
You don't send Generals and Queens out to the front lines, even if they are armed heavily and are capable of using those weapons efficiently
It's just not a good plan and nobody should have said "yes, let's do it"
But especially Carol
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>>84480694
Why would Ulysses have a vision of that? Does he just have visions of random things or just bad things? How often does he have visions? Does he catch all the big stuff? Does he even catch all the little stuff? Why is everyone acting like he's some cure-all for crime and destruction? Sure it's nice to prevent stuff before it happens, but there's no way they can prevent EVERYTHING. It just seems like all this shit is going down for the chance to try empty the ocean with a bucket, if that makes sense.
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>>84481605
Read the comics
They are just about to answer that question
if not next issue the issue afterwards when Tony confronts Carol
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>>84481605
Just cataclysmic events and randomly, he really feels like he's there. Also now he can unconsciously project them into other people's heads.
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>>84481698
I've read the main event issues, but not all of the tie-ins.
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>>84481825
It happened at the very end of the third issue
Friday finished analyzing how his brain works and Tony and MJ were like WHAT?
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>>84472631
You shouldn't be lusting after her to begin with. She is still a child
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>>84481968
A sexy, squishy child
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>>84481605
Think of it like Spiderman's spider-sense: it's there to warn of danger.
So he's not going to have a vision of him eating a sandwich.
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>>84481534
>You don't send Generals and Queens out to the front lines, even if they are armed heavily and are capable of using those weapons efficiently
>It's just not a good plan and nobody should have said "yes, let's do it"
But they and Carol couldn't have stopped them even if she wanted to
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>>84477269
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>>84481786

You know although Red Skull hydrafying Cap is the main thing of his book, I'm starting to see a possibility in which Ulysees might have a twist where he isn't Inhuman and/or and his visions are being fed to him by the cosmic cube girl for Red Skull to destabilize the world and allow the world to slowly accept a fascitic state through Carol. By controlling Ulysees, he controls Carol, and soon the world. Hell we know he's gotten into SHIELD and is the "Leader" that everyone is brainwashed into believeing.

Also speaking of brainwashing, except for the one time he needed the girl because she was displaced in time and was able to touch the few Shield people, why isn't Red Skull doing the Pseudo-Brainwashing by implanting false memories like the cube girl. Wasn't that Charles secondary script to his mind powers other than complete domination/wipe?
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>>84479913
Punishment for apostasy is death
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>>84485527
And who would do that?
Her banker father?
Her slacker brother?
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>>84471842
When did Korra get so powerful?
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>>84481990

My nigga
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>>84485852
lol
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>>84471842
>DC/Marvel
>Killed
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>>84472912
>Bendis cracks and rethinks his own story
Anyone remember his 'it was a she hulk killing missile' tweet?
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Why are you guys even discussing this and getting upset about it? You all knew the story was going to be insane gibberish from the start.
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>>84486414
Gwen Stacy stayed dead.
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>>84485792
It could be like a Muslim bloc party. The neighborhood gets together and kills the traitorous infidel
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>>84481180

It wasn't Monica's plan, she felt guilty because she knows she can move at the speed of light and thinks she could have stopped Thanos before War Machine got rekt
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>>84472229
Well, it's an anti-THANOS missile, not an anti-She-Hulk missile. To her, it's just as normal as any other slightly-more-powerful-than-average missile
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