HAHAHAHAHAHA >http://time.com/4394478/iron-man-r iri-will

Oh kek

It's self-parody at this point.

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>Thankfully because of my involvement in the creation of Miles Morales and Jessica Jones and some other characters, it’s getting the benefit of the doubt from even the most surly fans.

>>84297251

>>Marvel writer Brian Michael Bendis talks the creation of Riri Williams, who will take over for Tony Stark

>There’s a new Iron Man. Well, Iron Man for now. She’s still working on the name. The events at the end of the comic book event series Civil War II will result in Tony Stark stepping out of the Iron Man suit and a new character, Riri Williams, taking over, Marvel tells TIME. (Note: Tony’s departure doesn’t mean you know the end to Civil War II yet.)

>Riri is a science genius who enrolls in MIT at the age of 15. She comes to the attention of Tony when she builds her own Iron Man suit in her dorm. Creator and Iron Man writer Brian Michael Bendis spoke exclusively to TIME about the creation of Riri Williams with book artist Stefano Caselli and Marvel’s increasingly diverse cast of characters.

>>TIME: How did you come up with the character of Riri Williams?

>Bendis: One of the things that stuck with me when I was working in Chicago a couple of years ago on a TV show that didn’t end up airing was the amount of chaos and violence. And this story of this brilliant, young woman whose life was marred by tragedy that could have easily ended her life—just random street violence—and went off to college was very inspiring to me. I thought that was the most modern version of a superhero or superheroine story I had ever heard. And I sat with it for awhile until I had the right character and the right place.

>As we’ve been slowly and hopefully very organically adding all these new characters to the Marvel Universe, it just seemed that sort of violence inspiring a young hero to rise up and act, and using her science acumen, her natural born abilities that are still raw but so ahead of where even Tony Stark was at that age, was very exciting to me.

>>What have we seen of her so far in the Iron Man comics?

>>84297251
Jesus christ Bendis, those tumblr memes were a joke, not an actual suggestion.

>>84297251
isn't this considered black face?
having white characters put on black facade

>>84297251
Are books going to relaunch every 12 issues now. This shit is laugh out loud funny

>Thankfully because of my involvement in the creation of Miles Morales and Jessica Jones and some other characters, it’s getting the benefit of the doubt from even the most surly fans. There are fans who say, “Show us the new stuff,” and then there are fans who say, “Don’t do anything different from when I was a kid.” So when you’re introducing new characters, you’re always going to have people getting paranoid about us ruining their childhood.

>I’ve been down this road with Miles Morales, Jessica Jones, Maria Hill. I knew I was in good hands with Mike Deodato and other artists who are helping visualize Riri.

What a twat.

>>84297298


>In the latest issue of Iron Man, Tony is in a lab talking to himself, and he’s already aware that there’s some student at M.I.T. that’s reverse-engineered one of his old armors all by herself in her dorm room. He’s aware of her immediately.

>>What’s been the reception of the character so far (before this announcement)?

>Thankfully because of my involvement in the creation of Miles Morales and Jessica Jones and some other characters, it’s getting the benefit of the doubt from even the most surly fans. There are fans who say, “Show us the new stuff,” and then there are fans who say, “Don’t do anything different from when I was a kid.” So when you’re introducing new characters, you’re always going to have people getting paranoid about us ruining their childhood.

>I’ve been down this road with Miles Morales, Jessica Jones, Maria Hill. I knew I was in good hands with Mike Deodato and other artists who are helping visualize Riri.

>>Marvel Comics’ diverse new cast has stirred some controversy among a subset of fans.

>Some of the comments online, I don’t think people even realize how racist they sound. I’m not saying if you criticize you’re a racist, but if someone writes, “Why do we need Riri Williams we already have Miles?” that’s a weird thing to say. They’re individuals just like Captain America and Cyclops are individuals. All I can do is state my case for the character, and maybe they’ll realize over time that that’s not the most progressive thinking.

>But increasingly we see less and less of that. Once Miles hit, and Kamala Khan hit and female Thor hit—there was a part of an audience crawling through the desert looking for an oasis when it came to representation, and now that it’s here, you’ll go online and be greeted with this wave of love.

>>84297251
Wait, if she is Iron Man, why did they kill off War Machine?

This is fucking pathetic.

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>300k first issue due to 50 variants
>50k second issue
>30k third issue

>>84297318

>I think what’s most important is that the character is created in an organic setting. We never had a meeting saying, “we need to create this character.” It’s inspired by the world around me and not seeing that represented enough in popular culture.

>>Why did it take so long to turn the Avengers from a team of mostly white dudes into a more diverse array of characters?

>Talking to any of the older creators, it’s the thing they said they wish they’d done more of—reflecting the world around them. It just wasn’t where the world was at at that time. Now, when you have a young woman come up to you at a signing and say how happy she is to be represented in his universe, you know you’re moving in the right direction.

>>I don’t want to spoil anything for fans—

>More people are going to be upset that they think they know the ending to Civil War II now than anything we just talked about. But I can tell you just because we’re hearing what we’re saying doesn’t know you mean how Civil War II ends. We’re not telling you the end, at all.

>>What led Tony Stark to a place where he’s stepping out of the suit?

>We’re in the middle of a very big Tony Stark storyline—actually three storylines converging. His best friend died, his company is collapsing and he’s finding out who his biological parents were all at the same time. That’s stressful for a character who is wired the way Tony is wired and has dependency issues the way Tony does.

>Tony is also a master at not paying attention to the thing that’s most important and distracting himself with Avengers stuff. How that all shakes out such that Tony is no longer in the armor? You’ll have to wait to find out for the end of Civil War II. But it does create a path or Riri Williams, who Tony will know and will be interacting with very shortly in the comics.

>>How do they meet?

>>84297316
The worst thing about bendis is his unbelievable love affair with deodato.

>>84297298
>>>Marvel writer Brian Michael Bendis talks the creation of Riri Williams, who will take over for Tony Stark
>>There’s a new Iron Man. Well, Iron Man for now. She’s still working on the name.
So... Doom got cucked and won't be ANAD Iron Man?

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>>84297251
Did you do 30, do thirty-one, Bendis, make her also gay.

>>84297330
>One of the things Tony does to distract himself from all the things going on in his life is he goes to find this young woman who is flying around the middle of America in an armor that’s not completely made to try to find out what her deal is.

>>It’s hard to subtly fly around in Iron Man armor.

>You imagine that Tony has Iron Man armor on his Google Alerts.

>He’s also aware that this young woman is flying by him in terms of how quickly she’s doing it. Her brain is maybe a little better than his. She looks at things from a different perspective that makes the armor unique. He can’t help but go maybe I should buy her out.


>>Caselli to be fucking wasted to hell

>Riri
>giant afro with helmet

Its like...Marvel draws so little black wmen in their comics that they havent learned how to do it outside the 70s

>>84297313
12 issues and annual.
Based Marvel, treating comics like TV show seasons.

>>84297321
Because Bendis thought Rhodey was gonna die in the movie.
I'm not even sure if I'm joking or not.

>>84297334
Doom might be the team leader of the various armor heroes

Apart from the shit, ridiculously annoying stereotype earrings, what's wrong with it?

>>84297275
He really has. It's just kind of gotten very silly.

>>84297251
>>84297289
Please don't let her be "the black" love interest for Miles.

>>84297358
Nothing, we're just casually racist.

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>>84297251
I was going to try to start up a troll hash-tag about how She-Hulk should just become the Hulk, but Bendis actually took it even further than I could have imagined.

Wow.

Holy shit, fuck Marvel so hard.

DAMNIT MARVEL STOP PROVING /pol/ RIGHT EVERY CHANCE YOU GET

>>84297358
The rediculosly styerotype afro.

Remember that time Irons Man suit came to life and brought Tony to an abandoned island to fuck him?

Or that time they were setting up Tony to fuck MJ?

This is worse somwhow huh?

>>84297251
B E N D I S
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>>84297379
She might get her name as FeMale

>>84297397
Bendis always finds a way to make something worse

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>Marvel NOWer is a massive failure
>Alonso, Brevoort and the rest of the shitters are kicked out by Disney

>>84297251
How can she fit that hair inside the helmet?

>>84297412
Stop fucking mansplaining

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Have you ever stopped and wondered, "How will this current era of comics be remembered +50 years from now? What will it be referred to as? When will it end?"

>>84297393
That is how one of my sister's hair works. Don't bully.

>>84297393
That's fair. I would love to see a nice hair-style on her, too.

>>84297358
Race/sex swapping for is ALWAYS done to a white male?
Bald faced PC pandering?

>>84297411
Disney won't give a shit. The movies are all that matter. The comics barely make enough money needed to buy the cheetah blood to fuel their private harem planes.

>>84297412
you clearly don't know how hair works in real life.

>>84297358
She is Bendis adopted daugther

>>84297251
OK, I’ve been absolutely fine with just about every one of Marvel’s character changes so far.
But this is just... why not just make an alt. universe now?

>>84297323
>MFW LCS is having a discount special for all Marvel #1s
Hahaha, serves those fuckers right.

>>84297349

Except TV shows dont reboot every season

Is Tony gonna be War Machine then?

>>84297429
People hardly remember anything from 5 years ago.

>>84297412
When she takes it off for a few panels it has a pushed together look and it gradually reverts back to her native style

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>>84297321
>>84297350

I thought it was because we were not seen as progressive enough and sjws will now pander to another group.

one day...

Well, I was fucking wrong when I thought Tony was untouchable due to RDJ and the movies

>>84297441
I know I have short male hair and it CONSTANTLY gets snagged in my fucking headphones. And I'm imagining that times one hundred and surrounding the entire head.

Will International Iron Man continue? Place your bets!

>>84297465
Looks like Bendis' BLACKED fetish is stronger than his Tony Stark fanboyism.

>>84297471
It is a robot suit that flies and shoots lasers it can handle bad hair

>>84297251
Well at least she's not War Machine. I'd be more pissed if Bendis had been setting her up to replace Rhodey

It still feels a bit like a zero sum gain of black characters.

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SO WHAT I WANNA KNOW IS, IF SHE'S THE NEW IRON"""""MAN""""", WHY IS WAR MACHINE DEAD? This is bullshit

So women are called men now?

>>84297484
It stops moment we see Tony's mom is Jew.

>>84297502
MEN IS GENDER NEUTRAL SHITLORD

CURRENT YEAR

I'm going to go a little different and bitch about all the kids in comics.

Do kids even read comics? The only people I know who read comics are all over 40 and steadily giving up on it. None have been able to get their kids closer to comics than passing interest in MCU movies.

>>84297502
Sure. Men is also used to describe humans in general.

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>Black being the default go to race when making a change in character

As a latino I never want to hear black fans complain about representation again because at this point blacks are the white people of minority groups.

Now we have to deal with black slacktavist going "so woke""yaaaaassssss""black girl magic" etc...on social media

>>84297502
Star Lord Kitty Pryde?

>>84297501
War Machine is just Player 2 Iron Man.

>>84297502
You know, it'd be interesting to see an original heroine who pretends to be a man when she's a super hero for the sake of secret identity or whatever.

But not this shit.

>>84297512
It is the year of our Lord Jesus Christ 2016

I don't know what I find funnier; Marvel having Tony step down a year after making him the new face of the company, or Bendis replacing a big hero with a black OC for the second time in five years.

How long before Carol kills her, too?

>>84297533
>Lord
>implying Jesus was a man
CHECK YOU'RE PRIVILEGE

>>84297251
>people still think Marvel is relevant past the films
>people still give a shit about their films when X-men is better (bar X3 and Apoc)
>some people here still buy them
>losers discuss them
Grow up and move on from cape shit that pulls stunts like this. Marvel is irreparable. At least DC reinstated white Wally because they realised they were retarded and were man enough to admit it.

>>84297358
It's killing the white race

>>84297298
>organically adding all these new characters to the Marvel Universe
>""""""organically""""""

Also
>her natural born abilities that are still raw but so ahead of where Tony Stark was at that age
fuck you bendis you hack, fuck you and your goddamn mary sue OCs

>>84297436
It's done even MORESO to red heads. Look into it.

>>84297547

3rd time in five years actually.

>>84297532
>Literally Mulan and Joan of Arc

>>84297298
>Creator and Iron Man writer Brian Michael Bendis
This is wholly disingenuous in that it's phrased to sound as if he Created to Iron Man.

Fuck Bendis, he's the reason most of my friends dropped out of comics.

Also, fuck whoever wrote this garbage

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>>84297251
>Tony drawn & colored as an AI
RIP

>>84297525
>As a latino I never want to hear black fans complain about representation again because at this point blacks are the white people of minority groups.
#ComicsSoBlack when?

>>84297344
But that's a super cool hairstyle, why not use it?

>>84297564
>Apoc was X3 tier

get out of here

>>84297397
Speaking of MJ, does this mean she can come back to the Spidey books in time for them to resolve OMD?

>>84297501

Tony Stark becomes the new War Machine in memory of Rhodey, becomes a supporting character in Riri's ongoing.

>>84297588
You know exactly what I meant.

http://community.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?80791-New-Hero-Armors-Up-In-quot-Invincible-Iron-Man-quot-Relaunch-From-Bendis-Caselli&p=2142707&viewfull=1#post2142707

>Rich defending it

>>84297525
even asians don't give three shits about being represented unless it's some butthurt over stereotypes or asian show adaptations.

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>>84297525
Are black "fans" complaining? I keep hearing about these "fans" and "controversies" and they always seem to come from a few tumblr blogs and no one else seems to give a shit, but the rest are sacked with the blame anyway and current representation still isn't enough. There were even anons shitting on successfully adapted non-white characters and oc's.

>>84297251
>I knew I was in good hands with Mike Deodato
Haha oh wow.

Anyways, I didn't give a fuck about Bendis' Iron Man before and this sure as fuck isn't going to do anything to change that so this doesn't really effect me.

>>84297251
I'd fuck

Call me when she turns 18

>>84297585
I know about Miles and now Riri. Who's the third one?

Reminds me of that scene in that netflix show where the guy explains that when someone does something to a black person the whole world goes up in arms, but when someone does something to an indian or latino no one gives a shit

>>84297627
Rich the Leech? Rich the PLS HIRE ME MARVEL? No shit.

>Like black chicks
>Hate retarded fucking race shoehorning

Guys, help

Hopefully we'll get some top tier porn outta this.

>>84297488
Look at her afro tho. That level of volume would practically push the helmet off her head.

>>84297368
While it wouldn't be ideal, if it gets Bendis to stop pushing for Kamiles I can live with it.

>>84297334
Remember that there are two Iron Man books. International and Invincible. Presumably Doom will be the "iron man" of one with Riri being the "iron man" of the other.

>>84297502
>>84297512
>>84297521
Honestly I wouldn't mind if people tried to go back to Old English style sex terms but that's because I'm a Saxonaboo

woman = woman
man = wereman
human = man

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Why make a new black female science genius character? Why not just use the one you already have?

>>84297525
What black people are complaining?

FUCKING FIX STATIC YOU FUCKING CUNTS
FIX IT

>>84297429
Thor is a woman
Spider-man is black
Hulk is Asian
Captain is black
Miss marvel us now a Muslim girl
Iron man is now a black woman
Wolverine is a woman (I'm okay with x-23 just not her being happy)
Moon boy is now a black girl

I'm waiting for Daredevil to get replaced by a fat side cut Tumblr girl. Who is bland to racism

>>84297640
Falcon?

>>84297251
WE

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>>84297628
That's giving a shit

>>84297464
Hey man, at least you've got Mosaic. The "beautiful" professional basketball player turned low-rent Deadman whose power is to steal people's bodies.

>>84297520
Do kids buy $5 pamphlets at that store waaaay off on the shit end of town?

>>84297676
That was Remender, wasn't it? And Sam's been around for decades. I was referring to characters Bendis himself created.

>>84297646
Unless it's a black kid getting kidnapped. Then Nancy Grace just talks about it for five minutes and then goes back to "I HATE CASEY ANTHONY REEEEEEEEE".

>>84297659
They can be science broettes

>>84297659
He isn't a genius. Just a person that has a few specializations but is not skilled enough overall and has strong biases affecting her ability to understand the world.

>>84297525
>black """fans""'"
lol no, secondary moviefags don't count. I nor any of my friends who read comics, ever wanted or cared about representation.

Hilarious. Pretty soon all big name Marvel superheroes will be non-whites, and none of them will have a personality, because none of these writers are really thinking about the characters they're making.

Also, why the fuck do most black women in Marvel look like they just walked out of the 80's? How long has it been since these writers I interacted with actual human beings?

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>>84297646

>>84297670
Ayyy lmao
Look at all that bullshit.
>cucks will still buy those comics
This is the future you chose.

>>84297701
Shhhhh negro, the whites are talking for you now

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What
the
fuck.

>>84297659
She's like 4, she can barely handle a gang of monkey men, don't send her out to fight the Mandarin or whoever

>>84297627
>I initially didn't like Riri because I thought she was going to be the new War Machine and that seemed a little distasteful. But now that she is confirmed as the new Iron Man, I find the situation a little better. I might be picking this up.....
Why do I keep going there.

>>84297702
Probably wanting a more distinct look to characters so those that have straightened or braided hair look less different than ones with natural poofy big.

>>84297501
Because otherwise people would be saying "if you need someone to take over as Iron Man, why not have Rhodey do it again?" Gotta kill him off so people don't ask that question.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=poll&id=447

You think it'll do worse than the NOW teaser?

>>84297330
>More people are going to be upset that they think they know the ending to Civil War II now than anything we just talked about
The idea that anyone gives a shit about Civil War II just might be the most outlandish thing about this interview

>>84297628
I'm sure it's Asian-Americans who complain.

Asians in Asia like me don't give a shit because it's literally a first world problem and we have more shit to worry about.

Stoked for white Danny because a white dude using Asian martial arts is entertaining.

>Now, when you have a young woman come up to you at a signing and say how happy she is to be represented in his universe, you know you’re moving in the right direction.
This has never happened, ever.

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>>84297653
>being this much of a Samfag

>>84297718
Why is Iron Man always a fleshbag appropriating mechanical-american culture instead of a proud synthetic lifeform?

Isn't Rhodey's replacement a black girl too? Or are they one and the same?

>>84297670
>Wolverine is a woman (I'm okay with x-23 just not her being happy)

This is actually the only thing I AM ok with, since Laura has gone through so much shit, it's really fun seeing her fill a legacy role AND be happy.

Seriously, her run has been pretty great, IMO.

>>84297770
It's the same girl

>>84297647
>Rich the Leech? Rich the PLS HIRE ME MARVEL? No shit.
Nigga what? Rich is the biggest anti-Marvel "journalist" on the internet.

>>84297768
Looking at the cover, seems like he's completed his transition. F

>>84297663
Black fans in any form of entertainment always bitch about black representation when they are they are the group that gets most pandered too.

Look at all the race changes/bending that entertainment has done in these recent years. How many of them are black compared to other nonwhite groups.

>>84297251
Fucking hell /co/ explain yourself. I really do hope there is no faggot here who is going to buy it.

>>84297639
She's like 19-20.

>>84297766
I'm not, but okay

>>84297790
>[my ass]

>>84297779
>Captain Hydra twist will make DC Rebirth look like child's play

Really?

Remember when comics focused on making good characters of color rather than just taking a white guy and replacing him with a black guy?

Rest in piece Dwayne McDuffie.

>>84297251
Also, Hail Hydra at this point.

>>84297564
>>people still give a shit about their films when X-men is better
HELLO 1.JPG, YOU'RE NOT FOOLIN ME!

HAHAHAHAHA
>l-lets make thor a girl
what its not selling?
>l-lets make a black captain america
not popular? o-okay
>l-lets make a black FEMALE iron man
hahahahaha
HOLY SHIT
Thank god i have Rebirth

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>>84297251

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>>84297251
Hurt Durr raced doesn't matter. It's just time to introduce a new character.

Then retire black panther and replace him with a white, who isn't evil.

>Captain America - Black
>Spiderman - Black
>Ms. Marvel - Muslim
>Hulk - Asian
>Now Iron man is black as well

When will Marvel stop with this diversity bullshit

>>84297748
I dunno, name dropping Deodato as being good at designing characters is arguable more laughable.

>>84297807
what?

>>84297807
Who are you quoting?

>>84297804
You wouldn't worry so much about a Miles/Kamala pairing otherwise.

>>84297251
Y'know, as much as I hate giving Bendis another character to be bland and emotionless with, at least he foreshadowed this...? I'll wait to see how better writers write her before I start hating on the change.

>>84297251
For those wondering, Black Twitter is having NONE of this... They still remember what Bendis did

>>84297838
If Kamala hooks up with someone, it better be a normie like Bruno

>>84297850
what did he do
got any screencaps

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>>84297800
>>84297639
Yes

>>84297792
It's fucking Bendis Iron Man with Deodato on art. No one here was buying it back when it was Tony Stark. I don't give a shit about some Bendis OC taking over the book, hell it might even make the book better, but it's still Bendis/Deodato Iron Man no matter who the protagonist is and that's something I could not give less of a shit about.

Iron Man books are almost always bad. Modern Bendis books are almost always bad.

God bless DC and manga

https://twitter.com/TIME/status/750683236192423940

Replies are fire, yall

>>84297868
He killed War Machine

>>84297251
Saw this in the catalog and thought this was Misty Knight. Thank fuck it isn't

>>84297850
Wait we have our own twitter?

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>>84297861
>he thinks this is the doing of black people

>>84297865
It'll be Miles, Bendis is her spiritual godfather.

>>84297861
That was a pretty good impression of a stormfag
8/10

jesus christ Miles Morales, female Thor, okay, but what the actual shit Marvel?

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>>84297880
>tfw when I realised I still have like 100 more chapters of Sun Ken Rock
It's gonna be a good day

>>84297830
>Captain America - Black
No problem Wilson but can he fill the role?
>Spiderman - Black
Fine with it as long as Peter is alive.
>Ms. Marvel - Muslim
Nothing against just how can she date?
>Hulk - Asian
God why?
>Now Iron man is black as well
Don't know who the hell she is but Tony better be alive.

>>84297861
>Destroyed by niggers
I guess Bendis got his wish now, he's officially black now.

>>84297830
>>84297821
Well Ms. Marvel sold well so maybe they're trying to catch lightning in a bottle again.

>>84297881
>@TIME ok. Why is this shit news? I don't recall there being a headline when Thor was a frog
SHOTS FIRED

>>84297813
He said that it would take all the buzz away and he was 100% right. You didn't have every news station in the country doing a news piece on Rebirth. You did for HYDRA Cap. He was just making an accurate prediction.

That you somehow can't tell that Rich is the biggest anti-marvel shill imaginable is fucking mindblowing. Almost every article he writes is a slampiece against them.

She's cute

Any chance it'll be good?

>>84297821
>what its not selling?
But Thor's book sold extremely high. That's likely what inspired all the rest.

Well... they very clearly know what they're doing, is all I can really think. This is actually so nutty that even though I haven't touched many of the comics of the last year, I'm going to check this out. It takes some pretty serious gall, and I wanna know if it's worth it.

>>84297865
Isn't Bruno gay?

>>84297861
Metaphorically and spiritually kill yourself my man

>>84297920
>hating on Chulk
Nigga the fuck are you doing?!

>>84297881
>Funny guys with funny replies
>Cuck lords being offended by replies
>Nigress being "WE WUZ IRON MAN"

This is hilarious. And notice how all of those nigress supporters are saying how they'll WATCH a MOVIE about it. They're never gonna buy comics because of stunts like these Marvel.

>>84297917
Miles can't count, he's not from 616. Might as well count Spider-punk then.

>>84297888
How do you not know about Black Twitter? It's the only part of twitter that matters.

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>>84297881
fun fun fun

>>84297321
Because people would've picked up how similarly-written Riri would've been to Rhodey...

>>84297963
>the race defines the person
Fuck off.

>>84297954
Bruno spent the entire first run of the comic pining for Kamala and now has a girlfriend.

How did you get the idea he was gay?

>>84297926
rekt

>>84297931
>Any chance it'll be good?
>Bendis Iron Man
Fuck no. It wasn't good when Tony was the lead and I highly doubt it'll be good now that Bendis' latest OC is the lead.

>>84297999
Someone posted a panel with a Bruno look alike and a confession scene not long ago.

>>84297532
So like a reverse Cybersix then?

>>84297289
Bendis is so out of touch with reality. The minute he took over writing IM I stopped caring about the character.

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>>84297881
>These cringy as fuck gifs

Jesus christ.

>>84297744
Well, so far it is!

>>84297251
It's like they want to kill what little of their comics fan base remains.

>>84297997
The character defines the character, and Cho isn't defined by his race. Maybe actually read Totally Awesome Hulk or go back and read Pak's Incredible Hulk and Incredible Hercules.

>>84298024
But muh samurai robots, Doomquest and handsome Victor!

>>84298032
Why did you care about the character before that? He's been garbage for decades.

>>84297342

>her brain is a little better....

Yeah...that isn't a thing.

>>84297251
You see, minority characters are not successful on their own merit, so they have to make already popular characters into minorities.

Never mind the fact that stark was already a spic. He was a strong masculine character and no black woman would ever be able to compete without taking over the famous title.

That said, these comics usually get an initial rush of support from SJW goy who think that giving their shekels to Marvel is making a difference for real life minorities. This inevitably tapers off as there is no genuine interest in these comics that only server to promote the cultural Marxist propaganda which they already subscribe and therefore are easily bored with due to the lack of genuine entertainment value to supplement these gimmicks.

WE WUZ IRON MANS N SHIT

>>84297251
What will it take to make you man-children put down your picture books and pick up your zyklon b?

>>84298051
The first arc was entirely OK, but the second Marquez got replaced by Deodato it became almost unreadable, which just goes to show that Bendis coasts completely off of the artists.

>>84297289
I like how he forgot that Rhodes existed and replaced him with a generic black girl.

>>84297342
Wait, Caselli is the artist for the book?! GOD DAMMIT.

GOD FUCKING DAMMIT.

First Pichelli then Schiti now Caselli? Stop taking my favorite artists for your vanity projects Bendis! STOP IT!

>>84297445
Because SJW's would see it as segregation.

>>84297251
I'm so glad I stopped reading anything Marvel related more than 2 years ago.

>>84297984
>Gave it more depth and color
kek

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>Tony’s departure doesn’t mean you know the end to Civil War II yet.

>>84297886
They've also been on him for his tokenish dialogue and Marvel for having a lack of PoC on creative teams

>>84297298
>organically

This will never be anything but contrived. This will go down as one of the greatest historical comicbook blunders.

I predict that one year into the Trump presidency, Marvel will reboot all of these titles and return to the original characters.

>>84297251
Give her to someone thats not bendis pls

>>84298074
>different character under the armor keeping the torch/franchise. If it's new to you, read a comic book written in the last 50 years.
More like five years in Marvel's case.

>>84298071
lol Rhodes is dead

>>84298104
Remember when Nixon was a villain? If Trump becomes president, he'll be a stock villain who gets his privilege checked on a regular basis.

>>84298062
Well black people could say that since a black person was iron man in the 1970s and 80s.

>>84298054
Busiek Chen run was aces in 99-01. Grell run gets a bad rap. Then Ellis extremis arc was neat, it came out in the 04-05 I think. Iron Man hasn't been good since CW really. I thought Tom Taylor was finally fixing the character before Secret War ruined it.

>>84297251
>Riri Williams
I thought it was Misty for a second. Also, isn't Riri a bit of a racist name, Brian Michael?

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>>84297881
i giggled a bit

>>84298115
Oh I forgot battle for the cowl was a marvel book within the last 5 years and blue beetle too

>>84297531
HERE'S MY SUNDAY BEST

>>84298104
Yeah. This is pretty clearly just the death-throes of the leftists who have conned their way into positions of power within Marvel. Cuckbama may encourage this shit, but it's not going to fly once Based Trump takes office.

>>84298066
Artists and characters he writes. Give him Hercules and see sales tank.

>>84297649
even if hair has a lot of 'volume', something like 95% of it is still air

I have 25cm long curly hair, and it fits nicely in a fucking swimming cap if need be

>>84298150
>that buttblasted cuck who keeps calling him a racist

>>84298134
I'm afraid I'm not that old and haven't happened to have read those, but that's interesting.

>>84298152
That's my point, it's been popular in DC but never in Marvel until quite recently.

>>84297678
Jesus Christ, they want to take a good character and turn them into a generic fanfiction.

>>84297881
I like how Twitter is slower and more confusing to navigate than it was four years ago when I actually used it.

>>84298162
Not that they have any direct involvement. I just thing that, as you said, SJWs are a dying trend and there won't be as much of a market for this stuff much longer.

>>84298152
He's saying that Marvel has never done a legacy character before 2011, not that only Marvel has ever done legacy characters.

Which is still complete bullshit, since Marvel has been doing legacy characters since the 60s. Not as often as with DC, but legacy characters are hardly something new for them.

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>>84297251
So rather than making her an interesting character who just happened to be black and female, her entire character is that she is black and female.

God job Generation SJW.

>putting the iron man suit into the hands of a 15 year old girl

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I was actually liking this run of Ironman. Well guess i'm not gonna buy them anymore.

>>84298175
Yeah, it was after Watergate, turned out Nixon was the leader of a super-secret evil order that was running things from behind the scenes. Steve quit being Captain America and became Nomad.
And I'm not that old either, saw it in a documentary.

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>>84298176
>never in Marvel until quite recently

FUCK YOU MARVEL

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>>84298176

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not fooling some with the temporary bs, marvel

>>84298176
Richard Nixon was the leader of the Secret Empire and committed suicide when Cap caught him. I mean Trump already gets shit on even in stuff like Dark Horse Presents, imagine how much shit would be thrown if he actually was elected.

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>tfw you get the blame for changes you never asked for that was done for you in the first place again

Cover artist Jeff Dekal confirms it's a relaunch: https://twitter.com/jeffdekal/status/750699039406993408

>>84298229
>>84298244
he said it's never been as popular in marvel anon, can you read?

>>84298204
She's also a thief who cobbled her suit together by stealing stuff from other students experiments.

>>84298204
No, she's IRON MAN, you shitlord!

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>>84298170
>cuck
she's a fat black woman used faceswap with a dog
and it didn't made any difference how she looks

WE

Thanks for the white genocide propaganda Mr Shekelburg!
I can't wait for the issue where Tony gets cucked #FeelTheBern

>>84298229
>>84298244
Okay, so I made an error, I apologize. I guess I should've said that Legacy characters aren't as popular in Marvel as they are in DC. I'm sorry, anons.

>>84297313
Yes.

Brevoort believes that comics need to be treated like TV shows and thus every year you need to relaunch them like you would a season in order give readers a "new jumping on point". Of course that gets into the problems of having 4 issue 1's in 4 years with different premises/directions on each one being confusing but, well, Brevoort's not a very smart man.

>>84298253
B-b-but this IS a new character! Tony stark is still gonna exist! :^)

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>>84298274
no the guy

>>84298253
This guy is completely right. Only a short matter of years ago, progressives constantly complained about female super heroes just being female versions of male super heroes. Now they're even more literally that, and it's supposed to be a good thing?

>>84297251
I wonder what spin their going to put on it when the sales tank?

>>84297520
I agree with that sentiment, if only for Marvel's history with teen and legacy characters. Sure, things are okay right now (even Mania has popped back up), but Marvel does NOT have a good track record in this department.

>>84298325
>Y'all niggas racsexist

>>84297251
Well, what happened to Luke Cage, Nick Fury, and Black Panther? Were those not good enough black role models? Luke Cage was fucking badass, Nick Fury was badass, and Black Panther was Batman knock off, but was also good at not being bad.
Falcon is okay
Blackwashing isn't okay. I find it racist and degenerate as whitewashing.

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>>84298276
That doesn't work when a black person actually was the thing.

>>84298253
But... this is a new character. That's the PROBLEM is that its a new character. Of all the people to take over as Iron Man, it shouldn't be some random OC. Even if you wanted a young black girl to be Iron Man, why not use Rhodey's niece?

>>84297251
At this point I would rather Disney dismantle the whole comics side of marvel and just make a bunch of shitty cartoons or mobile games with the characters, anything would be better than letting it go on the way it's going.

>>84298325
They will just start the comic over within the year, but make it more progressive and blame the readers for the original comic shitting the bed.

>>84298085
please, they're called affinity groups now

So are there any White avengers now?

>>84297316
>Thankfully because of my involvement in the creation of Miles Morales and Jessica Jones and some other characters, it’s getting the benefit of the doubt from even the most surly fans.
People were pissy when it looked like she was going to be the new War Machine. Nobody wants this. Fuck, he may be a crummy Inhuman but at least Mosaic is a NEW character and not just an established name slapped onto a minority for "WE'RE PROGRESSIVE" headlines.

>>84298352
Is this not Rhodey's niece? I'm confused

That tweet is aimed at those who replied on that TIME tweet: https://twitter.com/UrbanAudacity/status/750702747708715009

>>84298335
Luke is especially awesome role model, considering his background.

>>84298335
>Blackwashing isn't okay. I find it racist and degenerate as whitewashing.
And yet... you called Nick Fury a badass black man.

>>84298366
Thor is still white.

Remember when Rhodes took over as Iron Man?

i can only imagine how racist /co/ would have been about it though it would have been less racist than this.

>>84298366
Well, Carol's probably going to annex the team (and be kicked off A-Force).

>>84298376
Nick Fury has a mixed son who's name is also Nick Fury

>>84298371
It's not. That's what everyone assumed because that'd be the obvious route to go.

But nope, it's just some character that Bendis made up. Presumably for his black daughter.

>>84298325
It sells well digitally!

>>84297350
You're not. He actually said in an interview on CBR last week that he knew something bad was happening to Rhodey in the movie so he had something bad happen to him in CW2, he just didn't know he wasn't going to be killed.

Bendis is a useless hack.

>>84298380
Thor is also a strong independent womyn, and thus doesn't count.

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>>84297251

Fight back

When was the last time a character was replaced by a character of its own gender/race?

>>84297251
>not Rhodes
YOU ALREADY HAD THE RIGHT CHARACTER FOR THE JOB

>>84298402
Well at least she wasn't OC...I think. It's still Jane right?

I'm so glad I stopped giving Marvel my money after the Secret Wars announcement.

This is retarded-ass garbage.

>>84298366
USAvengers is mostly white. They even took the Afro-Brazilian leader and white washed him.

>>84298395
Don't you mean his wife's daughter?

>>84298395
jesus

>>84298135
And many of us old Iron Man fans had much love for Rhodes and glad to see he gets so much spotlight these days.

Oh wait, they pointlessly killed him after he friendly fired on She-Hulk. Thanks Marvel.

>>84298296
>You don't speak for black people
And this beta numale cuck thinks he does?

Which is more retarded?
>A woman taking over for Iron Man and still calling herself Iron Man
or
>A woman taking over for Thor and then calling herself Thor

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>>842972
You kill Rhodey
You make Tony out to be an autistic cunt just for the sake of conflict in CW2
You put fucking DEODATO on his book
Now you're going to have some little nigress replace HIM, not Rhodey?
FUCK YOU BRIAN MICHAEL BENDIS FUCK YOU

>>84298393
Yes, but Nick Fury Jr. is essentially a legacy character for Nick Fury. He's no different from Riri Williams or Miles Morales or Monica Rambeau or any of the other black legacy characters.

>>84298366
Cannonball, Squirrel Girl, POD, Quicksilver, Rogue, Steve Rogers, Jane Foster, Deadpool, Red Hulk, Johnny Storm.

This is a mix of current and future members of course.

>>84298402
Nova? I think he's white.

This could be good if they go in a Iron Man Beyond

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>tfw I'm black and I don't know how to feel about this
It's like, it's change in the status quo of comics, right? That's good. And a legacy character can be good, right?

But this shit doesn't seem like genuine change. I'll reserve judgement 'til the cards are all on the table.

>>84298296
>white person tells mixed race person to be offended by something a strawman black person might be offended by

>>84298436
Thor is a norse god so Thor.

>>84298425
No, because she's her husband's daughter.

>>84298436
Thor. People take over the Iron Man armor all the time.

>>84298408
>couldn't even match the font
0/10

>>84298416
you realize not every book is dedicated to this new character right?

>>84298415
>It's still Jane right?
Yes. Also Thor Odinson is coming back as part of Marvel NOW 2 and will be using Ultimate Mjolnir.

>>84298450
It's comics. It eventually reverts back to status quo and based on feedback and sales, will determine the fate of this particular character, either as a dead one-off or reserved for a future tie-in

>>84298450
>But this shit doesn't seem like genuine change.
Of course it's not. Are you serious?

>>84298450
also, this.

Whitey here - but these always seem disingenuous and not actually like they're doing it to add interesting new characters and stories and are looking to increase sales to the P.O.C. crowd.

>>84298450
Death to all legacy characters unless they are white.

Also, Hail Hydra.

>>84298258
God I hate this

I get that all new #1s sell better so from a business standpoint I can't hold it against them

But years down the line this is gonna be fucking impossible for new readers to follow. This shit is why you don't have many new comic readers, there's already too much to read and too many different runs to figure out. Having multiple relaunches in under a year doesn't help things.

>>84298467
>it's okay, just buy the other books goyim!

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>>84297532
Reminder DC did it.

>>84297318
Yeah I remember reading Spawn as a young white boy living in Arizona. I loved the idea behind Spawn, but being a minority in a high school riddled with beaners, underage sex, drugs, and tons of gang violence, I was "crawling through the desert looking for an oasis when it came to representation." Boy did Bendis hit it on the head - I certainly couldn't enjoy a superhero no matter how much I wanted to because his skin color was different than mine. I needed that "wave of love" he talks about where I go online and am greeted by a ton of white male superheroes.

I wanted to love Al Simmons and follow his story, but you know I just couldn't since he was a black man.

This is what regressive SJW's actually believe and shove on people.

It's absolutely disgusting what the regressives have done to comic books. Real creators and comic fans will have their revenge when people wake up and stop buying your agenda-shoving, race-baiting trash.

Please choke on your own vomit and die, Bendis. You are a pathetic disgrace of a human being.

>>84298411
Batman
Starman
Blue Beetle
Wonder Woman

Spider-Man
Human Torch
Captain America (Steve replaced with Bucky Cap)
Various men that have been Venom.

There are probably more but I cant think of them right now.

>>84298487
HAIL HYDRA!

>>84298481
then why are people so buttravaged?

why would they get this mad unless they think Tony Stark is done for 5ever?

>Riri
Is that even a name? That sounds like someone mockingly imitating Asian spelling the word lily.

>>84298450
A Legacy character will always owe their existence to that legacy.

By their very nature they can not be their own thing.

And by extension their existence will never change the "status quo", because their duty as a legacy character is to uphold it.

By making "minority" characters in to legacy character you might as well have them praying at the alter of their white male namesake.

>>84298483
If not sales, just generate buzz that Marvel is making more people take the mantle of legacy heroes. Next thing you know the Human Torch would be black. Oh wait, Tranked movie prevented that.

>>84297251
>Reading Marvel after 2000

That's where you fucked up.

>>84298414
Nope. Bendy's daughter couldn't possibly relate to a male PoC, had to kill him off for this Donut Steel

>>84298411
Starbrand, Loki, Hyperion, POD/Spitfire, and Nova. You could also make the argument for Captain Marvel and Quasar since both of those are white women and the most recent Captain Marvel and Quasars before them were also white women. The originals weren't though.

>>84298393
Somewhat. I'm sure it's a contradiction there, but the change was long enough ago, I'd believe it was an artist who had samuel Jackson in mind when they remade him, and then eventually Samuel Jackson came to like it. It wasn't about race, it was about "x was a cool guy, I can draw x"

>>84298499
Is it good?

>>84298501
>be white
>have a ton of good characters to identify with
>choose the piece of shit spawn

you should kill yourself based on your bad taste.

>>84298498
Well, yes, by the good books and ignore the bad. That way Marvel sees there's more demand for the good books than the bad so they start focusing on one more than the other.

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>>84297251
>everyone shitting themselves over this
>anyone acting like they actually care about the Ironman comics or Tony Stark beyond the films
>everyone acting like they are being forced to read Bendis
And I'm just over here, not reading this garbage while supporting the titles that i love. Feels good man.

>Riri
it's definitely rere, I'll give them that much

>>84298501
>I certainly couldn't enjoy a superhero no matter how much I wanted to because his skin color was different than mine.

Yeah I wanted to enjoy Kung Fu and Kaiju movies but the lack of people who looked and behaved exactly like me made me not be able to enjoy them, and the ONE time they had a black guy in a Kung Fu movie he got his 7 foot tall ass kicked by a 5'6'' Chinese guy.....

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>>84298535
>>84298393
>>84298376

>>84298498
well duh.

you read the good books (ewing) and dont buy the bad

thats how the industry works you fucking idiot.

>>84297251
That's right, double the fuck down.

I'm sure SJWs will start loving comic books eventually despite the fact that all the other shit like this you've pulled hasn't helped your sales at all.

Will Marvel crash and burn? I mean tumblr sjw's don't really buy comics, right?

>>84298503
>Spider-Man
Spock doesn't count since he was in Peter's body

>>84298573
>and the ONE time they had a black guy in a Kung Fu movie he got his 7 foot tall ass kicked by a 5'6'' Chinese guy.....
I understood that reference.

>>84298583
I don't know what virtue signaling is. I'm assuming its some tumblr or /pol/ term? Either way, you need to go back.

>>84298563
I don't care about Tony and I don't plan on reading this. I just find it funny.

>>84297984
>added more colour

Lamo

>>84298450
Don't be a moron black person like so many who are completely hoodwinked by race-baiting and vote for Democrats.

Notice how American black people are the only ones that act the way they do, and Cuckmerica is the only place that constantly apologizes and pushes this racist narrative non-stop when it's factually and legally untrue.

This blackification of white characters is as disrespectful of black people as it is of white people. It's embarrassing, disgusting, and completely lacking in any sort of integrity.

Grow up, use your brain, and reject it at every front.

If "black culture" is so fucking different than the rest of America (protip - it's not, we're all Americans) then they can make their own new characters. Make entirely black comics, for all anyone cares. I'd probably read them, but this blackification is trash and only brainwashed idiots support it.

>>84298501
This. Spider-Man will always be my #1 and he's white

>>84298509
>then why are people so buttravaged?
I get pretty rustled when companies blatantly exploit/pander to people's race/gender/whatever in an attempt to make a quick buck.

>>84298585
They won't with Disney. But eventually they'll stop making comics and will just shit movies.

>>84298585
how does thor sell well if 4chan has been spelling its doom for ages?

oh right 4chan buys even fewer comics.

>>84298574
New Nick isn't the director of SHIELD though

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>>84298607
I'm finding /co/'s reaction to be the best

>>84298611
Every story could use some more People of Colour™.

>>84298631
In the movies he is, and who even reads comics these days?

>>84298620
until the movies stop making money

>>84297323
Nah, more like.

>200k for issue 1 due to variants + Loot Crate if that's still counted
>60k for issue 2
>40k for issue 3
>Levels out around mid-30,000s
>Marvel considers it a success, pushes Riri hard while ignoring shit like Carnage

>>84298615
companies always pander to something. you're just mad they don't pander specifically to you with this title.

why care when you can buy something else?

>>84297251
looks like I'm part of the #riribellion now

>>84297251
He's undercover in his own book you dumb shits. Of course he can't be Iron Man when people think he's dead. FRIDAY will let this little monkey operate as him for a while now that Rhodey, the only other person for the job, is dead and she'll get her own book(?) and persona when he's done.

Jesus fucking Christ you guys are quick to get assblasted.

>>84298535
>>84298574
Nick Fury being modeled after Sameul L. Jackson has been a thing since Ultimates 1 because Millar wanted Ultimates to be "cinematic" so he wanted SLJ to "play" Nick Fury in the comic. As part of the deal for using his likeness, SLJ got first dibs at playing Nick Fury if he was ever used in a Marvel movie. A deal they eventually made good on.

Then MCU Fury was popular enough that they made Nick Fury Jr. so they could have an SLJ-looking Fury in 616 aswell as Ultimate.

Either way, Black Nick Fury has been a thing for 15 years.

>>84297251
What was the point in killing War Machine then?
>But I can tell you just because we’re hearing what we’re saying doesn’t know you mean how Civil War II ends.
Pretty sure the Solicits spoiled most of it.

Banner dies. And Tony loses to Carol.

Marvel world is divided. Teen heroes team up in aftermath.

>>84297251
What I don't get is why instead of have all these new characters take over the roles old heroes, why they just don't make new heroes? I don't have any problem with them throwing all the diversity the want in the mix, but why make them the new iron man, Thor, hulk etc.?
We all like Luke cage, we all like Asian psyloche, we all like storm, we don't mind the diversity, the issue is that they are shitting up the names and legacies of original characters bits making things so convoluted. You now have to specify which captain America you're talking about or iron man or Thor.
You can't just say it about the diversity, I can't stand, young Scott old Scott, young beast old beast and so on.
It's terrible.

>>84298662
Are you telling me Doc Ock wont be Spider-Man from now on till the end of time?

preposterous.

>>84298654
I don't even know if it will do THAT good I know my LCS is sick of the variant cover bullshit and is discount a fuck ton of Marvel #1 just to get rid of them

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>>84298573
kek

>>84298540
Died few months after she was introduced.

>>84297251
>Marvel being all about diversity
>all their characters are black now
Where are the Hispanics, Indians, Southeast Asians, and Pacific Islanders?

So is Mary Jane gonna work for this girl or something?

She's going into comic limbo isn't she?

>>84298664
Yeah, but changing 616 Fury to be represented by his son just so he'd look like Ult Fury/Jackson is kind of a shit way of promoting the movies. This one's partly about taking off the white Fury not out of race but because of the MCU.

>>84298627
Thor sells well BECAUSE 4chan has been spelling its doom. The "outrage sells" model wouldn't work if there wasn't any outrage, and you can always count on butthurt anons (bonus points if they're "alt-right") to kick up a stink.

>>84297298
Can you imagine if you'd been away from comics for a while, but go back after seeing the movies?

Suddenly Thor's a woman.

Spidey's about fifty different people.

Wolverine's dead for a little longer than usual.

And old.

A morbidly obese chimpanzee with pencils for hands is drawing Squirrel Girl using only her ass.

Captain America's a lot of people. And HYDRA. And black. And can fly.

Bucky's alive.

Gwen's alive.

She's a super hero and had a kid by Norman Osborne.

The X-Men are even more of a mess than usual, and mostly 'drawn' by a hack who copypastas porn.

Thor's carrying an axe and is called Odinson because nobody can figure out why he wasn't worthy all of a sudden.

Hulk's a weird Asian kid.

Iron 'Man' is a teenage girl.

Every second issue is a relaunch of a concept of a new meme of a reimagining of a bold new direction.

The universe has completely shit itself about fifty times in the past week and been rebuilt.

Thanos is suddenly Darkseid level powerful.

For all I know Galactus is constipated.

The Fantastic Four are nowhere to be seen, although the Thing is in space with Kitty Pryde.

Colossus was the fucking Juggernaut for a while there.

Rainbow Hulks are smashing all over the place, and why does fucking She-Hulk have a sword?!

Alpha Flight's in space for some reason.

Iceman's gay.

Magneto's bipolar, depowered/upscaled, take your pick.

The Red Skull has Professor Xavier's brain.

J Jonah Jameson recently came out as a black Jewish bisexual transgender garden gnome for all I know.

And Namor's a Headless Monk.

Can you imagine the shock to the system? No continuity, no character development because stories are cut off or reimagined so an 'all new, all different' direction can be taken (or so the trade paperback can fit.)

Jesus, Marvel, what the fuck!