How popular are Western cartoons in Japan? Are they as popular

I don't know if it's true or not but I heard MLP failed pretty hard in Japan.

>>84271200

Disney cartoons, film or TV, are pretty popular in Japan as a general rule.

I remember when a Japanese woman was going to leave her husband for not liking Frozen.

>>84271299
>leaving somebody for not liking a bad movie
Japan has awful taste.

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>>84271299

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/05/frozen-divorce-_n_5453809.html

>>84271299
This, just look up Frozen on pixiv

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>>84271200

http://www.pixiv.net/search.php?word=%E6%80%AA%E5%A5%87%E3%82%BE%E3%83%BC%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B0%E3%83%A9%E3%83%93%E3%83%86%E3%82%A3%E3%83%95%E3%82%A9%E3%83%BC%E3%83%AB%E3%82%BA

There's also a fair bit of fan stuff (doujin, fan art, fan fiction) for the other Disney tv cartoons like SvtFoE and WOY to a lesser extent but I also saw a lot for Steven Universe (no surprise I guess, it's heavily influenced by anime) and Adventure Time. There's also a lot of fan merchandise for these shows.

>>84271299
Not a surprise, nips love white people after all.

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>>84271309

>>84271200
Certain things get huge.

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I like seeing the particular characters and even ships that exploded over there.

>>84271292
My understanding is the ponys dident do to well but equestria girls somehow got popular

I forget do Russian children like ponys or is it just the porn that's popular there

they have a bit of a fandom for western cartoons but it seems fairly small

>>84271436
Russians are having an economic downturn. Childrens toys are their smallest concern right now.

>>84271450
Poor Russia

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Look at the doujinshi based on Western stuff sometime, it's pretty interesting.

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>>84271390
They like brown if the story is good and the character is well written.

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>>84271431
They upgraded Marie's cuteness to dangerous levels.

>>84271292
MLP can't compete with pretty cure, EQG only managed to get some traction because of netflix and the characters resembled human girls

>>84271200
Cartoons have a niche fanbase. South Park, Regular Show and the like get subbed.

(Yu-Gi-Oh: The Abridged Series also gets subbed.)

What nips really LOVE is Hollywood.

24, Battlestar Galactica (for SF nerds), Star Wars, more cop shows, all that shit they import and watch.

>>84271601
>pretty cure
Oh this looks interesting

>>84271292
>MLP
>A super meta troll by /co/ for autists
>Catches on outside of /co/
>Nation wide beta autists somehow get in the net too

Have you ever told a kid you don't like that retarded thing is actually really enjoyable, then he ends up liking retarded thing? It was like that.

Nips were obviously thinking those ponies were a shameful dispray.

>>84271486
That's the girliest doujin cover I've seen in a while

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>>84271678
>he actually believes that /co/ spread mlp to 4chan
>not /v/ or /b/ for the sake of shitposting
If anything else 4chan ended up more autistic than the ones who enjoyed mlp because they couldn't handle it

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>>84271678
>>84271292

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>>84271737

>>84271727
Pretty sure Hasbro spread mlp to japan in the failed hopes of making more money.

>>84272250
this kills the thread

>>84271727
So /co/ gets blamed for other boards autistic antics again?

>>84271727
The thing that always me a chuckle is that although we are largly responsible for mlp having such a large adult audience we auctualy avoided the worst of the autism there's little on /mlp/ that cringy

We released a horror on the world and got away pretty much Scot free

>>84271678
I'm pretty sure we are talking about children here anon you know the target and largest audience

>>84272529
nah, mod and janitor culture got pretty fucked up and introduced >>84272529
the whole '/co/ is a serious board for serious art' attitude.

>>84272284
Every board tries to blame it on other boards instead of there own.
In truth it was probably a mix of each of them.

>>84272560
Ok yeah your right /co/ was damaged by the whole shitstorm

But the auctual autism from pony fans doesent show up on 4chan much (well it does but /mlp/ is mostly standard /co/ level autism) (although sometimes I think I would prefer that to barneyfag)

>>84272592
I've heard about Barneyfag a lot but I've never seen him.

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>>84272250

God fucking dammit anon we could be looking at Elsanna doujinshi RIGHT NOW and you have to bring this cancer here to ruin things instead. That didn't even catch on there like the other things in the thread did.

>>84272673
>Complains about cancer
>Posts cancer

>>84272592
>>84272566
>>84272560
>>84272284
>>84271678
How many of you actually were here in 2010/2011 when MLP started.
Not very many judging from how badly history seems to have distorted itself.

Suffice to say there was never any problems with /mlpg/ the first and only legitimate /co/ mlp general thread there ever was. All problems were either caused by outside spammers (/b/tards) or butthurt shitposters who couldn't deal with the fact that the new MLP show was actually good or that adult men watched it.

What did 4chan get out of it at the end of the day? An arbitrary global rule, a useless new board, /trash/ becoming /co/ 2.0 and a ton of butthurt on all sides. Totally worth it.

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>>84272683
At least it's a cancer Japan got behind.

>>84272250
sauce

>>84272699
People really overreact to MLP and I don't think it should be treated differently than anything else.

>>84272699
>/trash/
>/co/ 2.0

more like /furhg/

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Post westaboo fan art if you have it.

>>84272699
I've been here since 2008 and I never said that /mlpg/ was the problem. Just that it set off or came at about the same time a lot of things that made /co/ less fun then it was.

>>84272733
http://g.e-hentai.org/g/920347/58d8389352/

>>84272699
None of us were claiming that the ponyfags themselves were the problem anon anybody who still thinks that is clearly an idiot to the point they probably can't put together a sentence anyway

>>84272756
So /co/ 2.0

>>84272666
Your in for a treat when you do
His sperging is entairtaining for a while until it just gets pathetic.

Haven't seen him in a few days though

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>>84272839
Funny, I saw him today.

I'd hate to have the level of autism he has.

>>84272758
>no search results
>instead just a gif of a hentai anime I watched earlier today

>>84272850
Use saucenao. If it;s even from Pixiv, it'll find it.

I speak a bit of the moonrunes and when I was practicing back in the day, made a friend who livestreamed herself drawing on NicoNico. We would talk in Japanese text via Skype. She really liked a lot of western cartoons growing up and was especially fond of Foster's Home. Most Cartoon Network stuff gets dubbed there, if I remember. There's Japanese Adventure Time, EE&E, PPG, SU, and I'm sure there's a bit more. Some of the episodes are up for free on the Japanese CN youtube channel.

I don't know exactly how popular they are. I would hazard a guess that they aren't as popular there, in general, as anime is here. Maybe Disney stuff like Frozen is, but I don't think there's as many Western cartoon Westaboos running around glorious nippon as there are animu weebs in the Occident.

>>84271292
MLP is the American equivalent of moe, so ofcourse it failed in Japan. Another cute girly show is just a drop in the barrel over there. The Otaku have Idolm@ster and Precure, what do they care about MLP?

>>84272783
What made /co/ less fun was the surge of "I don't like it hence it doesn't belong on /co/" and general threads, both arguably do to MLP legitimately triggering people because before FiM MLP had always been worse than sonic when it came to creepy and autistic fandoms. Scrolling to the first page of MLP porn on paheal is a good way to travel back in time to what was typical of the time.

This coupled with the general anti-furry sentiment that was still a thing back then caused a massive backslash and for lack of a better word empowered the shitposters who used MLP to get a rise out of people. This culminated in the site wide ban on MLP of march 2011 that only helped to stir the already overbubbling cauldron of shit. After 3 days of word filters and "you-know-what" threads the mods stopped the auto-banning on the terms that there can only ever be one thread on /co/ about MLP (MLPG) at any given time and that ponies are only allowed in it and on /b/. This lasted until moot created /mlp/ when /mlpg/ was violently cast into an ocean of piss, where it still is.

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nippon fan art is super cute

>>84272870
Aside from Disney/Pixar movies and such, it seems Western animation is insignificant there.

>>84272924
MLP doesn't have cute girls in it, it has ponies. Otaku couldn't care less about animal characters, and animal characters are uncommon in general in anime. Even if it had anthropomorphic ponies instead, it wouldn't make any difference. It's not made in a way that would interest otaku, and there's a reason why moe emerged in Japan and practically doesn't exist in America.

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>>84272991
Korean fan art is cute too.

>>84273001
I thought moe just applied to anything cute and girly and attracted adult men?

>>84272699
>/trash/ becoming /co/ 2.0
Without MLP and furries, /trash/ would be the perfect board.

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>>84273094
>without furries

Then it's just ERP: The Board.

>>84272861
I did, anon.

>>84271363
Leave it to Huffington Post to write a whole article on a post on a Japanese message board that's probably fake, about a cartoon. What a fucking rag.

>>84273094
>kids and janitors really fucked up /co/
>glad /trash/ barely has them
>you know what would improve it?
>mods and janitors

>>84273132
More like /cog/: /co/ generals.

>>84273039
It's a complicated concept that means different things depending on the context, but it doesn't mean adult men being attracted to cute and girly things. Moe is essentially just a feeling of infatuation or love towards fictional characters.

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>>84271200
Japan was a mistake
Pedos were a mistake

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>>84271431
Nothing cuter than character-themed bento boxes.

>>84272699
>/trash/ becoming /co/ 2.0

/trash/ is a way better place to discuss cartoons than /co/, honestly. You can actually make decent conversation without having nazi mods or tumblr crybabies looming over you, ready to pounce and destroy your thread.

Disney stuff is huge

But things like nick and cn are very niche

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>>84273213

https://twitter.com/disneychanneljp/status/735806375196909568

>>84273327
>bill
>no dipper
Mabel a slut

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HI /jp/

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>>84273406
>no dipper

no dipper too, japanese mabel will have everyone

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How popular are Western cartoons in Russia?

Are they as popular as Russian cartoons is in the West?

Except for a handful of things like Pokemon, maybe Yugioh, I don't think anime is as big here either as 4chan seems to think. Most people have never heard of most series, this is just a weeb site.

>>84273735

I think much more popular and that Bannable Offense Tiny Horse Show and Gravity Falls are the most popular U.S. cartoons there, or that's what some Russian guy here said he could have been full of shit.

>>84273749
The anime fandom in the US is huge.

>>84273252
Hi, /sug/

>>84273817
Yes there are a lot of people in the anime fandom, but I wouldn't call it mainstream until you're talking about a tiny number of shows. Pokemon, Dragon Ball Z maybe.

>>84273749
>Most people have never heard of most series
Most people have never heard of most of the literally thousands and thousands of series that exist? No way!

>>84273876
Would you really argue that any anime show on right now is as mainstream as Modern Family or even The Walking Dead?

>>84273853
It can be huge without being mainstream. And at any rate it's massive compared to the Western animation fandom in Japan.

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>>84273899
>Western animation fandom in Japan

Are you not counting Disney and Pixar movies there for some reason?

>>84271200
IIRC, in Japan, all animated media (Western, Japanese, or otherwise) is called "anime". Most of the cartoons we make skew toward younger demographics there than they do here.

As >>84271299 said, though, Disney is very, very popular over there.

>>84271299
>a Japanese woman was going to leave her husband for not liking Frozen.
That's pretty scary

>>84273915
I was talking about everything else. Disney movies etc. obviously are very popular there.

>>84273919
>IIRC, in Japan, all animated media (Western, Japanese, or otherwise) is called "anime".
What difference does that make?

>>84271618
I've read that the Japanese like American shows because they're usually about people with interesting and unusual professions or lifestyles, while Japanese shows tend to have everyman protagonists that get stale after a while.

>>84271641
/m/ loves PreCure for some reason. I guess because its akin to Toku.

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They liked Clawhauser for some reason. Neko love?

>>84271436
I imagine it was the porn considering the Russian-chan was removed after 2D CP attracted 3D CP and went unchecked for too long.

>>84273735

There were a Russian cult for Gadget Hackwrench from Chip and Dale's Rescue Rangers.

There is a Russian fan club for Dipper x Bill with 25,000 people in it.

I thought Russia genuinely liked MLP not just the pony porn.

>>84272699
Oh god, it's like I'm having Vietnam flashbacks. I remember seeing the catalogue just covered in pastel horses. That's why I downloaded 4chan X, but thankfully a few of it's features were added to the site itself, namely the hiding buttons.
Before that it was nothing but MY PARENTS ARE DEEEAAAD and Avatar, after it was nothing, but Korra. Which I swear was one of a few reasons the SJW crowds noticed and started fucking with this website.

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Some series have their niche fanbases. I don't think anything is big except for the disney movies.

>>84273891
Would you really argue that the average person can name "most" of the western cartoons ever created?

>>84274260
Haha, I wonder what they thought of the shipping episode?

Did Japan like the two Avatar series?

>>84274263
I said any single current anime that at lot of people at work can name during lunch. Most people where I work can name the big sitcoms and cable shows but the only anime they recognize is Pokemon.

>>84273735
https://youtu.be/tD9NSlWYBec

>>84271200
a lot more popular than anime is here. japan loves cartoons.

>>84274826
I've never seen any indication that cartoons are popular in Japan, and they sure as shit aren't as popular as anime is in the West.

>>84271200
How popular are western superheroes like Batman over there?

Pixiv is packed with elsanna art.

>>84271292

You heard pretty wrong.

>>84271641

Imagine cute magical girls who fight like DBZ characters. That's pre-cure.

I've read that Lisa Simpson is more popular there than here but I don't know if it's true.

>>84275101

They have their own kanji for the ship. I searched and got over 2000 image results for it on pixiv.

>>84273406
There is a lot of Japanese fan art of Mabel looking cute while here on /co/ people call her a huge bitch.

>>84275101

No surprise. Frozen is absolutely massive in Japan. Way more mainstream there than any anime is here.

>>84275101

At least they have taste in lesbos. Plus they love incest drama over there.

>>84275101
Post some here for cross-cultural studies research purposes, please.

>>84275330

Wish I could, but I'm on my phone.

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>>84271431

Lilo & Stitch was a big one that was bigger in Japan than in the States leading to the Stitch anime.

In general I think Disney is more mainstream while other fandoms exist but are more niche. But some Cartoon Network shows seem pretty big too, consider original Power Puff Girls, again leading to an anime version.

>>84275440

Thank you, friend. I now feel I better understand how different cultures are all connected, in spite of our seeming differences.

>>84275083

A long time ago I read that Western superhero movies did notoriously poorly in Japan. The theory was sentai and magical girls were much preferred. In spite of this, some manga and anime creators were and are huge Western superhero fans and put it in their work.

I don't know if the tendency of superhero movies to bomb at the box office there has changed.

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>>84271200
Japs have pretty good taste, which explains why Gumball is the most popular CN show over there. Other guaranteed hits are Disney movies.

>>84275630

Gumball is popular there because it's about a cat and Japan has a national neko obsession.

>>84272961
>"I don't like it hence it doesn't belong on /co/
Thinking about it you might be right mlp set a precedent that if you don't like something you can just have it banned and now we are stuck with retarded rules about generals that aren't even written down anywhere

>>84272924
We aren't talking about okatu we are talking about children

Probably much of the same still applys though

>>84273158
It's like those people that want more moderation on /qa/ the one place we can safely talk about how shit moderation is and they want us to lose that.

>>84273891
Pokemon
Yokai watch.

>>84273915
I wonder if the Japanese merchandise is as intestual as the western stuff

>>84275196
>They have their own kanji for the ship
How the fuck does that even happen.

>>84271422

How are we NOT doing "phrasing"?!

>>84275125
Care to prove otherwise with sales and viewer data?

>>84276212
Because their language is fundamentally different?

>>84276212
A lot of things from the West have their own pixiv tags because language and translation but...

If you mean "why is Elsanna popular in Japan" the same reason it's popular here? Though yes incest seems more popular in Japan anyway.

>>84273704

Mabel Pines is top westaboo loli.

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>>84272673
Was this based on a real event?

>>84276704
yes it was an interview on the Japanese news and them it became a meme among several artists.

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>>84274035
Sounds bullshit as they have shows about every kind of shit you can imagine. From batman Macguyver to supernatural microbiologist.

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>>84276704
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/special-feeling-%E7%89%B9%E5%88%A5%E3%81%AA%E6%B0%97%E5%88%86

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>>84276795
Thanks, this is pure gold!

>>84277089
Do you have a source for that? Sounds improbable.

>>84277188
>How?
Sazae-san is the most popular TV anime and I don't see any reason why Tiny Toons would be that popular.

>>84277297
Oh great Famicom is back again.

>>84276793
The difference is that the US uses live-action for that. That alone draws a huge difference between the two kind of shows.

And not every japanese is into animation, or at least prefers live-action over it.

>>84276575
I meant more Im surprised it could happen so fast

>>84276795
People give kym a lot of shit but in the end it provides a useful service

>>84277308
No he is not.

>>84276793
While manga is main-stream in Japan (to a degree unimaginable to Western comics fans), anime is niche (though becoming more popular) and live-action is HORRIBLE.

>>84278225
Some anime is very mainstream (Ghibli, Mamoru Hosoda, One Piece, Sailor Moon etc.).

>>84278388
It's a bit like how sci-fi was recognized in the West before the 90's, Star Trek and Star Wars was recognizable, but no one ever fucking cared about Babylon 5.

>>84273735
fuck yeah captain pronin

>>84271200
mostly just disney shit

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>>84277367
Japan makes live action too.

>>84274444
No. The first one felt real awkward to them as they many drew connections to the Fire Nation and WWII Japan.

>>84274276
Anything in western shows that involve Japan they go crazy for. The most popular GFalls episode is Giffany right now.

>>84271200
I know Tom and Jerry is huge. I don't know if other slapstick is as popular. So no clue about Popeye and Looney Tunes.

>>84281114
Tom and Jerry is immensely popular in Asia in general. Probably because it is slapstick and less dialogue. It's actually so popular there is at least 3 knock off versions of the cartoon in China depending on what province you go to.

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>>84271444
Oh I doubt that. When Japan first got TV, the favorite show of the Emperor was Superman.

>>84273028
Speaking of Koreans, would they watch more western stuff than Japan does? I know they aren't on the best of terms with Japan at least

>>84275083
>>84275620

I've heard that Japs love Spidey tho

I don't know why Japan likes western trash so much.

Transformers gets a lot of Japanese fan-art.

Of course, it kinda started started in Japan but still it counts.

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>>84283077

Because unlike you, they have taste.

>>84271292
>I don't know if it's true or not but I heard MLP failed pretty hard in Japan.

It ran for 52 episodes on TV Tokyo, but didn't get renewed for more. The thre Equestria Girls movies got released via Netflix Japan last year, so there's still some small demand in Japan for MLP stuff.

It's much bigger in China, but who the fuck cares what the Chinese like?

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>>84275330

With pleasure.

>>84281520
Japanese Lamby-Lamby Dipper has seen some shit.

>>84283529

Thanks for the education, friend. Very nice.

>>84271431
Is Stitch still going in Japan?
I remember they released some tv movies or OVA's recently spun off from the anime.
But it sounds like it's starting to die down now.

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wasn't pic related created after a few people from gainax watched drawn together while drunk ?

>>84284336
drawn together inspired the humor and powerpuff girls inspired the looks, and yeah they were drunk, i think it was confirmed

>>84280946
Japan liking Giffany makes perfect sense, I was more surprised by their Bill fixation but on reflection he seems right out of a Urusei Yatsura manga.

Remember the South Park parody in Furi Kuri?

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>>84284419

>>84284823
this was so good

>>84281347
Oh wow

>>84283453
>but who the fuck cares what the Chinese like
Companys who want money

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>>84284336
And it was pretty good.
>tfw no Season 2

>>84284823
Glorious

>>84284367
Because Bill hits home on multiple levels
>He's a demon
>He jokes around like a demon in Japanese anime
>He is cute.

>>84274444
>Did Japan like the two Avatar series?

Last Airbender got canned early into Book 2.

It recently got picked back up on Netflix Japan and they've dubbed the rest of the series. Got most of the original actors back with only a few replacements (Zuko and Iroh and Toph).

No word on Korra.

Netflix Japan seems to be saving a lot of American cartoons that got cancelled early in Japan. My Little Pony hasn't been revived, but I think the Equestria Girls movies being dubbed was like a test to see if there was still enough interest. So maybe.

>>84285852
Dream demons are more of a thing in Japanese mythology than Western mythology too. In the anime movie Beautiful Dreamer, the villain is a dream demon with a silly voice and a top hat who gets a crush on Lum and traps her in a dream world.

>>84285940
Seems odd The Last Airbender got low ratings.

>>84286196
Doesn't help that NickJapan is notorious for bad dubbing.

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>>84284823

what's with gainax and south park ?

imagine if matt stone and trey parker collaborated with studio gainax or trigger to make some anime ? how would that go ?

>>84286267
Things don't really change much wherever you go do they

Among 'mainstream' normie adults here, it's Disney/Pixar and some Dreamworks shit (Minions stuff is still everywhere.
This is among your more run of mill non otaku Japanese adult, who says they dislike Anime but happily admit to loving Disney.
They also love Marvel capeshit.
Next up is character goods characters, those shitt characters made to make products, like Hello Kitty and Rilakuma.

In fact most of the adults and later teens I teach really don't like Anime at all, and think my Anime-fan British co-worker weird because she talks about it a lot.

>>84286367
Seriously I'm sick of seeing Minions products everywhere I go in Tokyo.

Connie from SU is in Little Witch Academia.

>>84286307
>>84284336
>>84284823
Gainax are the ultimate westaboos

>>84281579
I don't know but despite inter-national animosity I think I see fan art of the same Western things from Korea and even China as I do from Japan and interactions between fans from there.

>>84286585
>>84281579
I don't think politics plays into it. They just have different tastes. For example Rick and Morty. It isn't a big hit in either country but it is more popular in Korea.

When I went to Japan during their winter around when Frozen came out, there were snowman Olafs fucking everywhere, some ice sculptures of Elsa and shit as well. Frozen themed toys and sweets were in stores everywhere too.

>>84286827
They still are. Every winter like clockwork. They can't move on.

>>84286989
Ironically they can't let it go.

>>84274220
>There were a Russian cult for Gadget Hackwrench from Chip and Dale's Rescue Rangers.

what the FUCK

>There is a Russian fan club for Dipper x Bill with 25,000 people in it.

In real life or do you mean online.

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>>84287303
I'm sure anon is exaggerating and means fanfare not cul-
http://www.odditycentral.com/news/russian-cult-worships-female-cartoon-character.html

Wat

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>>84287450
I thought Japan made the world's weird shit. The fuck Russia?

>ctrl+f "hero academia" and "Horikoshi
>No results
You fucks.

>>84285687
>enemies of my personal freedom
Fuck them all.

>>84288412
>western cartoons

>>84288465
Yes, and Horikoshi's a huge westaboo, incorporating lots of western references into his current work, what's your point?

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>>84271292

Its got a fandom over there, with its own ponycon, Japanese pony fursuiters, fanartists, etc.

Underground cult classic, i'd say.

Plus, it failed its broadcast because they only played it once a week, tuesday moarnings after the kids already left for school. Thats even referenced in the Watamote manga.

>>84288568
Well, I am wary of at least two references in that. I have only read like the first ten issues of the manga.

>>84288793
A couple of the locales are Star Wars references, his apartment's loaded to the gills with western characters, All Might's like a walking testament to Western style heroes, and America's home of the most heroes

>>84286520

This.

And that carried on into Trigger too. Watch Kill la kill and how cartooney some of its segments and art got. And from what I understand, that new show they are working on will be cartooney as well.

Also, Yoh Yoshinari drew a bunch of MLP fanart, and snuck a twilight doll into Little Witch Academia, as well as other western cartoon references.

>>84271436
>somehow
>A show about cute girls
>Somehow got popular in Japan

>>84273213
Japanese moms are very creative with lunch. I never got anything like that.

>>84275473
>bigger in Japan than in the States
It got like 3 sequels. Just because it got an anime doesn't mean it was more popular

>>84288643
>>84283453

All the fansubbed episodes of MLP also got taken from Nico, which is leading some Japanese fans to speculate that the show might be coming back (possibly via Netflix).

Hardly a confirmation, but it means that some rights holder in Japan doesn't want the fansubs of season 3-6 to be an option for Japanese fans.

>>84272758
Source please, anon

>>84279103
What. They made a live action based off that show? Are you serious?

>>84288910
The only new show I know of is Little Witch. What are you talking about?

>>84284265
IIRC, they're doing another OVA this year. Japan is the ONLY place that got the actual TV series (Lilo & Stitch The Series) on DVD. They got a full series set.

America didn't even get a fucking volume.

>>84289410
Microbiology is also live action.
They have live action of almost every shit so normies won't feel insecure watching animation. Too bad that the story is almost always butchered so they can fit the same plot in a fraction of the time.

>>84289498
That's just American companies being shit. Good luck getting any show from Cartoon Network on DVD. Especially if the DVD isn't random episodes.

>>84271200
Don't western cartoons in Japan have notoriously short runtimes?

I have a couple of Japanese Ren & Stimpy episodes I ripped from Nico a few years ago. Such a lazy dub, Stimpy sounds like a hulking retard, Ren sounds like a japanese dude holding his nose and they don't even do their own screaming.

>>84289570
>Good luck getting any show from Cartoon Network on DVD.
They made damn sure bread-and-butter Adventure Time had fucking season sets AND blu-rays.

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>>84289576
Seems to be a running pattern with media. When it moves overseas, it gets shafted.

>>84289166
Actually the fansubbed stuff is getting put back on, only split up so it can stay on by some technicality, like the GF episodes.

>>84287087
God damn you

Cartoon shows aren't particularly popular, but Disney isunstoppable.

I work in a high school and I see more Disney and Peanuts themed merch than anime stuff

>>84283529

>that top left image

HNNNNNGGHHHHH

>>84288643
>Thats even referenced in the Watamote manga.
That's hilarious

>>84271618
How are Jap dramas anyway?

>>84276087
On /qa/ I once got a 3-day for posting a pony.

>>84290256
Although come to think of it dident it get a shitty timeslot in the u.s at first to

Do normies in Japan ship Elsanna?

>>84290256

Also Tomoko's VA does RD's voice.

>>84290283
If they're anything like Yankee-kun, they attempt to act like an anime but coem off as awkward because physics is still in place.

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>>84290289

Like a motherfucker.

>>84289029
But the first and 3rd ones were fucking horrible and the second one was poor at best

I guess Japanese children have the same shit taste as American children

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>>84287450
> “She is the divine being, the most untouched and perfect sibling of the great God on Earth”. “Why I love her? It’s a stupid question, how could I not love the Goddess?”. “She is strict, cute, optimistic and her level of technical knowledge is unachievable for a mortal being.”

So does Russia have it's own word for 'otaku'? Because this shit is advanced otaku

>>84290289

エルアナ is the kanji for Elsanna and on pixiv it returns 2169 fanart entries. It's pretty popular.

>>84287450
Jesus fuck

>>84290582
Complete this sentence /co/
I blame

>>84290781
osama

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>>84290707

>tfw you will never have a love this pure

>>84290781
malb i

>>84271618
>24


Really?! I would not have expected that to translate well to our nipponese friends

>>84291681
Think of it like GitS. It has everything to do with Japanese politics, yet people overseas can still like the futuristic police procedural.
24 has a lot to do with American international relations, but there is still enough action and intrigue to keep Japanese viewers interested.

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At least some place appreciates her.

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>>84293143

>>84273094
/trash/ should been nsfw /s4s/ while /s4s/ should have been a sfw board

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>>84286307
>imagine if matt stone and trey parker collaborated with studio gainax or trigger to make some anime ? how would that go ?
Gainax as a studio is more or less dead. They sell tomatoes now.

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It's simple.
Japs like cute stuff, they're currently obsessed with Zootopia atm.

>>84293598
I find their lack of Bellwether disturbing.

>>84271200
They adore pretty much anything Disney. Aside from Frozen, both Wreck it Ralph and Zootopia did very well there. Zootopia especially.

They also enjoy most very popular western cartoons like spongebob, gravity falls, and to a lesser extent adventure time. Haven't seen much on Steven Universe though. Older CN cartoons like My Life as a Teenage Robot or Dexter's Lab are seen as the equivalent of us being into Cyborg 009 or something.

They also like 'indie' stuff too. I know this isn't a cartoon, but there is a pretty sizable fandom for Undertale there that has been growing since the fan translation came out. FNAF has a small following but it didn't catch on as well as Undertale did.

>>84293685
And Gumball. Japan fucking adores Gumball.

I wonder if the Loud House will catch on there.

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>>84271641
It's really not. It's one of the most repetitive series I've ever scene every episode and season is the same and the character designs hurt my eyes to many rainbows.

>>84293711
Just looking at the picture feels like a chore.

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>>84293711
Pretty Cure is basically the magical girl equivalent to Super Sentai or Kamen Rider.

Thing is that the toku shows could get away with super colorful costumes because they had lighting to help keep the designs from being eye bleeding. Pretty Cure is animated so it is a lot more in-your-face with the color.

Oh, and mind control and shit like that apparently happens a LOT in Pretty Cure.

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>>84286098
he looks like a tasty food

>>84293792

also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGnOxKwHvKQ

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>>84293711
Still awesome though

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>>84286827

>>84284823
I don't remember this at ALL

>>84272699
The early /co/ MLP fanbase was great. I wish /b/ never found it.

>>84293933

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mkx803SqM2k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApGnaeTY0nI

>>84271292
it started bad, but now has a good popularity.

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Dub time!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoUxjQOQW7A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4EpviBA1EY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLdIH9HOYWQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqdpMjlSmK0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6uRVCTmGaw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkURtjWudHU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dGGY_JpYAo

>>84293386
Kinda sad to see it but anime industry is harsh.

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>>84274114

>>84286367
>This is among your more run of mill non otaku Japanese adult, who says they dislike Anime but happily admit to loving Disney.
>In fact most of the adults and later teens I teach really don't like Anime at all
Spirited Away is still the highest grossing movie of all time in Japan, Boy and the Beast was the highest grossing domestic movie last year, and Detective Conan is currently trailing behind Zootopia at #2. Love Live and Girls und Panzer outgrossed many live action movies such as American Sniper, Our Little Sister and Mad Max.

>>84289029
Not anything and everything with cute girls in it gets popular in Japan, and by popular we're mostly talking about popular among otaku.

>>84289410
>>84289521
Moyashimon was a manga to begin with. Manga is adapted into live action all the time and it has nothing to do with people being too insecure to watch animation. Many manga have been adapted only as live action.

>Too bad that the story is almost always butchered so they can fit the same plot in a fraction of the time.
Dramas have hour long episodes, so a 12 episode drama has the same runtime as a 24 episode anime.

>>84295199
That won't mean they'll admit to liking it.

>>84295256
Ghibli has had two movies win Best Picture and break the box office record in Japan. The Wind Rises was the highest grossing movie in 2013. One Piece recently had the biggest opening of all time in Japan (the biggest before that was Dragon Ball Z).

But I'm sure nobody will admit to watching any anime.

>>84293711
Who's the the girl at the top with green hair and a flower? on her head? She's at the right of the orange fox thing.

Also, from what precure is she from?

>>84295315
It's the same as with Transformers movies or Call of Duty here. Everyone shits on those. Yet they make millions.

>>84295315
Well especially now.

Thanks to Miyazaki's soft views on relations with China, many are calling him and Ghibli traitors.

>>84295387
Or maybe you're just projecting your dislike of anime onto them, like Westerners do on a routine basis.

>>84295392
That has nothing to do with what we're talking about.

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>>84271727
Anon, I've literally been here when people started shitting themselves over MLP. And yes, it started on /co/. It might've been mentioned on some other boards earlier, but it's fucking obvious the cancer started in /co/ threads.

Also, here you go - first time anyone ever used the word "brony". Thanks, /co/ and fuck you.

>>84295668
Yeah, it started on /co/, but it was made into cancer by shitheads like you who can't deal with candycolored equines.

So suck my dick and fuck you too.

>>84295668
It only became a thing because people made a big deal of it. If they had let them stay with their own thread and reaction images it would be gone over time but no, they had to make it special, They can't allow a cartoon to be posted and discussed in the cartoon board! The antagonization shaped the community as much as the ones posting ponies.

>>84295724
You weren't much around back then, were you? People were mad at the fanbase, because they were spamming reaction images from the show everywhere, on every board. No wonder people got tired of their shit, when it was around when Reddit was really booming and 4ch was slowly being known as "that one place with memes" - we didn't want even more idiots to get over here, if they saw they could post ponies here.

And I'm saying this as an ex fan of the show. I was watching it for the first two seasons, somewhat around the third season, and even I can fucking tell people were batshit insane about it.

>>84295770
>You weren't much around back then, were you?
Yes, I was. And I see no problem in using reaction images. For example, I have never heard about the aliens guy being a comic or cartoon character >>84271401

If people let it be it would be substituted by a new fad but making it a thing just stimulated people to post more for reactions. You should know very well how people will post every day the same shit just to get people angry.

>>84289576
as a yuropoor, they've started dubbing shit here about a decade ago, its some of the most cringeworthy shit. Every boy protagonist sounds like Ash Ketchum, the jokes don't translate, the timing on dialog is way off, it's all lazy as hell.

I don't know if they get better rating this way but I always have and will always prefer subtitles over dubs.

>>84295856
to be fair it was all over the damn place, and people were actively trying to get a reaction out of others with it, or making threads with the thin guise of wanting to talk about their favorite pony or something on unrelated boards.

I don't really see why they banned it on /b/ though, given the already incredibly low quality of the board.

>>84289576
>and they don't even do their own screaming.

Yeah, that was the worst part of the Japanese Ren & Stimpy dub.

Screaming can potentially hurt the vocal cords, so a lot of VAs don't like to do it. The dub was halfassed and the Japanese VAs didn't want to waste their effort on it with screaming, so they left in Billy West's and John K's screams and manic laughs.

Piece of shit.

>>84293753

Don't all the Power Rangers shows also get dubbed and released in Japan?

What's the fuckin point if they already got the Sentai version a year earlier? Extra shelflife for the merchandise?

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Disney-related stuff does very, very well in Japan. They even do things that try to make Disney related things stylish and chic like jewelry and fashion sets and CDs that remix famous Disney songs as nu-disco and such.

>>84296744
SPD was pretty popular in Japan. They even got the Dekaranger members to voice their respective colors plus Doggie.

>>84296711
>Screaming can potentially hurt the vocal cords, so a lot of VAs don't like to do it.
Based Yuu Kobayashi don't give a fuck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_14QMXLadM

>>84296744
>>84296803

I could get dubbing Power Rangers during the early years when the show was extremely distinct from the Sentai, but ever since Lightspeed Rescue the Sentai and PR shows have been more or less identical in plot and characters from episode to episode.

So why would anyone in Japan want to watch the same show again "except this time there's white people"?

>>84296861
Cause it's exotic I guess?

>>84296711
That is the case in many cheap dubs, not just Japan. My guess is that when the one bringing the product doesn't give a shit he will only pay for the strictly necessary so only the talking lines, Not even care if the tone is correct or not. That's why the same VA can be awesome in one series and awful in another. This is also why I almost always dislike dubs.

>>84274054
It's basically just animated Super Sentai with all girl teams. If you like toku and/or shit like Sailor Moon you'll probably like Pretty Cute.

I was very surprised to see how popular South Park is with certain groups in Japan. They love it.
They even dubbed some episodes. Butter's dub voice is horribly cute.

>>84296949

Yeah, but South Park got cancelled pretty early in Japan, though. Hard to say it was "popular" when there are more undubbed seasons than dubbed one. Plus, they skipped every episode that made fun of Japan, even excluding them from the DVD sets. Buncha pussies.

The Simpsons is a weird situation in Japan. They stopped dubbing it after season 11, but it continues to be broadcast on Fox Japan in subtitled format. So it never got cancelled, technically.

Also why Japanese fans were PISSED when they recast everyone for The Simpsons Movie. They wanted to hear the TV cast again. The DVD release actually included a second dub featuring the TV cast, with the Movie cast's dub being treated as an alternate bonus track.

>>84296980
>Plus, they skipped every episode that made fun of Japan, even excluding them from the DVD sets. Buncha pussies.

They did the same thing with the Simpsons. They skipped the episode where they go to Tokyo and it isn't on the DVD set.

The Japanese are hyper sensitive about how they're portrayed in foreign media and censor anything that parodies or criticizes them.

>>84293711
I haven't felt this uncomfortable looking at an image in a long time

>>84297099
Too many cute grills for you to handle?

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>>84271200

Generally a cartoon's home country is where it's gonna be most popular

there's a few exceptions like Naruto or Gumball though

The weird thing about Japanese MLP is that while the show had a terrible time-slot, but they did put marketing into it, and give it great voice talent.

Seriously. (Although a lot of the dubed songs failed hard, because of language issues in translating music)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2VwhYphk7A

Just what were they trying to do? Make a great dub doomed to fail its run on purpose?

>>84297244

The autotuning on Pinkie was pretty bad in a lot of the songs.

The bigger problem with the Japanese version of MLP is part of a wider problem with any Western cartoons that wind up on TV Tokyo/Aichi. The EDITING.

They like to add corner programs to their shows, so 3 minutes or more have to be cut from the show to make room (also, to accommodate the longer OP/ED songs). So MLP lost a lot of content in Japan.

Likewise, Transformers and TMNT, when they aired on TV Tokyo/Aichi, got brutally edited to make room for shitty corner programs.

Western cartoons fair much, much, MUCH better on Japanese satellite networks where they can air uncut. Broadcast networks always cut them to ribbons. The shows on broadcast get a wider audience, though, so it's a tradeoff.

(and unlike the US, Japan NEVER restores cut content for DVD releases. They make the edits before the dub, so the content is lost forever.)

>>84296980
>>84297007
Brazilian media and government got a lot of fuzz over the Simpson episode in Brazil even wanting to sue Fox for making it even thought the population doesn't really care that much as we are the same people who thinks Blanka is pretty cool.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blame_It_on_Lisa#Reaction_in_Brazil

>>84297460
Was Australia mad with the episode where they went there?

>>84297460
>>84297528

Yeah, both Australia and Brazil pitched a fit over how they were portrayed on The Simpsons.

Difference, is, they both had the balls to broadcast the episodes. In Japan, the Simpsons episode where they visit Tokyo is banned from broadcast and home video release.

>>84297227
>Cherrypicking: The Image

>>84297589

that's entire point of that template anon

>>84287450
It's actually just a hang out club. The worship of the character is a backdrop. A gimmick, so to say. There are lots of collectives like this in Russia.

>>84297551
According to Wikipedia Japan didn't broadcast due to the scene where Homer throw the Akihito in a box full of sumo thongs.

>>84297551
Fox said that Brazil's reaction caught them by surprise as it was worse than any other country so far.

So Japan reaction was "This is in poor taste, I'm not gonna air this" and Brazil was the navy seal copypasta them they found out that they can't really sue Fox. The episode actually was banned in Brazil, but as always they were pretty incompetent at that so latter it was aired anyway with a warning that it doesn't represent the view of the channel.

>>84297335
What is a corner program?

Also one of the things I immediately noticed when I was first getting into nico is the compilations of all the shit that was cut from the MLP dub. The Japanese fanbase seems really butthurt about it.

>>84298072
Gashigashi made a picture referencing it. Not gonna post it here but you can look for it on DA and see his comment.

>>84295199
>and by popular we're mostly talking about popular among otaku.
Honestly i think this thread is having huge problems with confusion between people talking about adults and those talking about children

>>84298111
Oh you mean the parts where the 3D slut sits around and talks with my waifu?

>>84298072
>What is a corner program?

A live action segment added to the end of a show that features a host discussing a topic related to the program.

For Transformers, the corner programs feature idol girls talking to Vector Sigma about new Transformers products and teaching kids how to transform and play with their toys (Transformers cartoons are marketed to a younger demographic in Japan than in the US).

MLP's corner program had a slight educational slant to it, sometimes trying to teach English words and phrases to the audience while also trying to sell merch. It featured one of the VAs as the host talking to a really badly animated Twilight.

>>84295199
Moyashimon was a manga, them an anime and only latter became live action. Also live action do butcher the source. Many of them are just movies and they try to fit whole seasons in less than two hours making it sounds like this https://youtu.be/mqprgBY70qM
Even drama series they try to fit much more stuff per hour cutting a lot of plot points and character development.

Or they totally change the mood like how they made Mushishi look like an horror movie by picking mostly the harmful ones.

>>84278436
That's because it was on a 2am.

>>84298674
>Many of them are just movies and they try to fit whole seasons in less than two hours making it sounds like this

So just like Shyamalan's Last Airbender movie, then.

>>84298953
At least they are better than Hollywood adaptations that the only thing in common is the name.

>>84298674
>Moyashimon was a manga, them an anime and only latter became live action.
It can also go the other way around. Nodame Cantabile was a drama first and anime second. The Great Passage is getting an anime soon, but it was already made into a live action movie.

Movies don't really have a choice but to perform surgery on the story if they want to fit it into two hours or less, and it doesn't necessarily produce bad results. And some manga are short enough that they can be adapted as is.

>>84295199
>we're mostly talking about popular among otaku.
That's stupid then. Otaku aren't even a large percentage of Japan.

>>84299394
I don't see what's stupid about it, and even if otaku aren't large in number it's still a significant industry.

>>84299478
When asking are western cartoons popular in Japan, that doesn't mean, are western cartoons popular with a niche part of the culture. You're stupid.

>>84299665

So what, are you asking for whats popular with over 50% of all the Japanese? Probably nothing of anything.

>>84299665
Someone said:
>equestria girls somehow got popular

To which someone else said:
>somehow
>A show about cute girls
>Somehow got popular in Japan
As if it was a foregone conclusion that anything with cute girls in it would become popular in Japan.

Then I said:
>Not anything and everything with cute girls in it gets popular in Japan, and by popular we're mostly talking about popular among otaku.
I.e. they are mostly popular among otaku.

>>84274444

No, why would they? It's just American Naruto and if they wanted to watch shounen shit they would just watch their own.

>>84299394
Aren't otakus simply their geeks?
I thought it was just a harmless word for fans, not some sort of culture or something like that...

>>84300186
if you´re considered an otaku in japan you´re kind of a pariah

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>>84297227
>All anime is shounen

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>>84300186
>>84300297
The word was originally derisive and invented in 1983 by a guy who was visiting a manga convention. The people he was describing were basically geeks.

In 1989 the serial killer Tsutomu Miyazaki was caught, which became huge news. At some point the word otaku started floating around, he was said to be one, and then "otaku" started being demonized and shunned and perceived as gloomy, withdrawn, socially dysfunctional and potentially dangerous. Apparently.

The otaku image started to improve in the 00s due to various reasons, and otaku became more numerous and "otaku culture" more popular. It's similar to what happened to "geeky" things in America at the same time.

Westerners keep saying that otaku are considered some kind of subhuman outcasts in Japan, but that's either because their info is outdated or because they're projecting their own hatred of otaku. Or both.

The essence of what is called otaku culture today is 2D girls. That's not all there is to it, but I think it's safe to say it mostly revolves around them, or they're what connects everything. Girls und Panzer combines them with World War II tanks, and Love Live is an idol anime. Military hardware and idols have always been popular among otaku.

>>84300297
So all the train otakus are weirdos to them?

Or is being a fan normal and being an otaku means being an excessive autist about it?

>>84300186
Otaku in Japanese means something like "a social retard obsessed with a hobby". The hobbies can be anime, swords, or idol singers,
The closest English translation for otaku would be sperg, aspie or neckbeard.

Just find it funny otaku saying "I'm a sperg" without knowing it.

>>84300770
>swords
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGbE0L2zWbc

>>84295406
>That has nothing to do with what we're talking about.
Actually it kinda does. Ghibli has been seen as more an exception to the 'don't like anime' thing. Until now. Wind Rises had a lot more potential that it didn't meet because of the negative view Japanese had with Miyazaki, associating his films with propaganda for daring to want peaceful relations with China.

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>>84300600
Well otaku is indeed still looked down upon. It isn't because it is outdated, but because face is everything in Asia, especially places like Japan.

To talk about an otaku, people think of hikkomori, shuts ins. The kind that gave up on life and refuse to be part of it for whatever reason. It's no longer considered 'pariah' but it still is far from positive. And it's very embarrassing to be related to one.

>>84300618
>>84300770
I think the difference between a train otaku and a train worker (like an engineer) is that the former knows tons of things about trains, their history, their schedules, their stations, and so on, but the information is not really useful. The train worker makes use of his knowledge and does it as a job. Same thing with a car otaku vs. a mechanic or engineer (although knowing a lot about cars is considered more normal). Of course a train otaku can become a train worker.

Otaku are preoccupied with things that are considered by others to be useless, childish, strange or socially unacceptable, either inherently or because you're too old or the wrong gender or have more interest in them than you should.

>>84300912
If a celebrity in Japan says something offensive then they're going to get shit on. It has nothing to do with Miyazaki, Ghibli or anime specifically. And Ghibli isn't the only maistream anime there is.

I've never heard anything about Miyazaki's views on China though, or that the Japanese object to being at peace with China.

>>84301167
>Well otaku is indeed still looked down upon
>To talk about an otaku, people think of hikkomori, shuts ins.
That's the old 90s perception.

>>84301177
>I've never heard anything about Miyazaki's views on China though, or that the Japanese object to being at peace with China.
Actually I'm understating it. It was during the Senkaku island dispute, where Japan wanted a bunch of islands that no one could live on but China called dibs thanks to some ancient ass document they dredged up. No one really gave a shit about them until now when the prospect of a potential oil resource cropped up around them.

Miyazaki was all
>Just let them have it for fuck sake and stop fighting.

But even that was only part of the reason.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wind_Rises#Controversy

>>84301211
Nah it's still pretty relevant. When weird crimes prop up, like a man introducing a little girl he kidnapped as his wife, or a man hiding in a sewer grate to look up women's skirts, people think it's hikkomori.

Or Koreans if you're part of the netouyo

>>84302298
Well we can add it to the list of dumb statements Miyazaki has made, but like I said he's just going to be treated like any other public figure who says dumb things.

>>84302354
A hikikomori may or may not be an otaku. Attributing something to a hikikomori doesn't mean attributing it to otaku.

>>84271292
Modern day anime and otaku are pretty much the same thing as MLP and bronies, if not worse, so I don't know why their otaku wouldn't eat it up.

>>84302792
How are they the same thing?

The reason why otaku wouldn't care about MLP is because MLP has ponies in it, not humans. Its aesthetics, story conventions, culture, characterization etc. are also different from Japanese media.

>>84302792
The reuirement to speak English?
Positive outlooks on life (you may laugh but remember the obscene amount of people on /b/ triggered simply because the show was all happy)?
Anti-Hikikomori message with the whole friendship theme?

You'd need to ask them, not us.

>>84302792
I would not call them same because otakus like humans more than ponys when it comes to cute stuff.

>>84303407
Nah they like Greys who wear colorful wigs.

>>84303211
Moe anime is very positive and does not carry any pro-hikikomori or anti-friendship messages.