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If there were a Holy Grail War which class would you choose and

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If there were a Holy Grail War which class would you choose and which /co/ character would fill it?

If you place a character into a class they don't fit is nerfs their stats but it may be worth it if you can make it work.

Remember: You have to fuck your champion to replenish their mana
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>>84202473
CInt Barton / Hawkeye.
Archer class.
Noble Phantasm would be Unlimited Trick Works.
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Assassin
Kaine Parker (scarlet spiderman)
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>>84202473
>You have to fuck your champion to replenish their mana
No you don't. Shirou is literally the only Master who ever had to do that, because he isn't a real mage.
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>>84203183
And you are?
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I made this with help from /wsr/

Does /co/ like it?
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>>84202473
Berserker. Supergirl. I win.
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>>84203183
every mage knows that but why give up the chance for a nice mana transfer.
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>>84203151
I would think he would fit better as besurker. But that's just my opinion :/
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>>84203183
>implying any of us come from magus families
nah nigga youd be fucking your servant too
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>>84203443
Berserker is an ill suited class for most servants because they lose most of their skills in exchange for raw power. It's why despite the fact that Herakles was a beast under Berserker he's better suited under the Archer class. Really the only servant that I've seen be benefited from being summoned under serker is Jack the Reaper.
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Forgetmenot
Assassin
obviously his Noble Phantasm would be his ability to just go unnoticed, killing Masters and having Servants forget hes there.
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Rider, because fuck the three Kinght Classes.
Orion, because he rides the Astro Harness, and it would be his Noble Phantasm alongside the Astroforce, and maybe his Motherbox.

He'd also fit well as Berserker.
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Silver Surfer as Rider would be great
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>>84203542
Yeah I know, but I like to see scarlet Spider as the kill first ask question later kind of guy. Just fits the character better. But that's just my opinion :/
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>>84203724
it would be fun to see him wreck shit under his "other" transformation that's for sure.
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>>84202473
Yo what about green goblin as rider? I mean he already has the glider.
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Batman as Archer. Most of his weapons are ranged and he has an independent action.
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either Saber or Berserker
Poppy combined with Berserker's strengths would be insane geddit nyuk nyuk nyuk
I cant think of anything else she'd be other than Saber, so I tossed that in there too. Sabers also usually have really high magic resistance too, so her heart thing would work great.
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>>84203890
fuck forgot image
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>>84203619
>he wins for you
>"how the fuck did I win I never even summoned my servant what the fuck"
Would be great
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>>84203183
>not just fucking your champion for fun
...

AM I STILL ON /CO/?
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>>84203940
10/10 servant, would summon aga...wait why am I standing here with the Holy Grail in my hand?
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>>84203183
No seriously this guy is scaring the shit out of me.

Everyone post your champion/fucktoy. This is not normal behavior for /co/.
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>>84204154
nigger at least have a Class to go with it
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/co/'s greatest Caster?
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>>84204167
Saber.
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>>84204196
considering Casters can also be writers I'd nominate pic related as greatest caster
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Scott Pilgrim as Saber. He has the sword of love.
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>>84203486
>>84203276
>implying this isn't a confederation of wizards.
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>>84203542
Have you seen how Kaine fights when he goes full Other? That's basically the only class he fits as, he's not exactly sneaky enough to be an assassin.
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Ruler Class
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>>84203276
>>84203486
>there are people from non magus bloodlines that post on 4chan
FUCKING NORMIES REEEEEE
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Hellboy as Berserker fucks everyone up.
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>>84204297
Ranking wise, does Death have power over Lucifer?
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>>84202473

She Hulk as a berserker class.
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>Rider is not a knight class
>Archer is
This fucking game makes no sense. Anyway, I call on Cassassin.
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>>84208685
The game is rigged is why. Three main magi families made the cup and after failing a few times realized they would have to actually bother working together with other people so they added in some extra shitty classes with some bonuses to make them look halfway reasonable.
Assasin as an example would theoretically be a great class except it's setup so that it has to drop stealth before attacking while being weak enough that any halfway decent servant can wreck it's shit when stealth drops.
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>>84203183
But everyone knows that 4chan has wizards
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>>84202473
Don't Servants usually have to be famous figures from the past and shit?

So most capes are out, unless you come from the future
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>>84208816
Still doesn't explain why Archer is a knight class.
Swords? Yeah, knights used them.
Spears? Yup.
Mounts? Sure, gotta use that spear somewhere.

Bows? That's a peasant weapon.
And I know peasants with longbows are the bane of cavalry, but still.

Anyway, Twitch girl is multi-purpose but I'll summon her as Lancer, if only because we can come up with a lot of Sabers but not many Lancers.
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>>84209080
You can theoretically summon a servant from the future (and it has happened) since time has no meaning. In the latest one some girl summoned her future self to fuck shit up.
If that's not enough for you then consider the massive amounts of bullshit time travel in comics resulting in characters accidentally making themselves historical figures.
>>84209100
You're thinking from a european standpoint. You've gotta remember it was written from a retarded Japanese POV that doesn't know the meaning fo the words they speak. The three knight classes are also just the original three classes that weren't purposefully made to secretly be shit.
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>>84202473
saber: Magik
assassn: Psylocke
caster: Ema, use rulebreaker and ger saber: Magic, and summon a servant of her own, assassin: psylocke, mutie harem aquired.
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>>84209325
Shit taste acquired.
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>>84202473
Pearl as lancer
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If I were to choose Samurai Jack as a Saber would he be a cute girl? I'd be alright with that.

Alternatively Spawn as a Caster.
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Ruby as Lancer
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Archer: Christopher Robin
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>>84203305
>implying Mabel has the self-discipline and autism necessary to manifest a Reality Marble

lol fag
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>>84203619
It doesn't work that way. Since he's not a master assassin he would get wrecked by any Magus.
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>>84204297
You can't summon gods, elementals or universal archetypes

it's in the rules
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>>84209992
thats incorrect
he has weapons training, since he was in that war that one time
hed be able to kill at the very least
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>>84210005
To be fair those rules tend to get broken a lot in various Fate media.
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>>84209868
Can anyone one beat this post? I really don't know.

Qilby as a Bazaka
Or the program Beck as Rider.
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Optimus Prime as a Rider would be sweet.
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Godzilla
I want to make him a Saber class because the thought of Godzilla in knight armor makes me laugh.

And yes, I'd fuck his mana back.
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>>84210351
You wouldn't even be able to fuck enough mana into him for a single nuke breath.
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>>84210005
Actually you can, like how Artemis was summoned along wit Orion but they're nerfed the fuck down by the grail itself.
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Ghost Rider as Rider.
You thought I had put something else, didn't you.
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>>84210005
You can summon them ONLY if they want to be summoned, for example Tamamo no Mae because she wants a husband and Artemis because she wants to have some fun.
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>>84209100
It's not like any of the Archers even use a damn bow and arrow.

Not even Emiya does until he is absolutely forced to.

He is the most backwards Archer type character, he starts in melee with his swords and if he considers you a threat then he retreats and nukes you with his explosion arrow.
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>>84211547
That's only the case for EMIYA and Gil, the other Archers shown so far are either actual Archers or wielders of long range weapons like Demon Archer and Tesla.
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>>84202473
Saber: Kelsey Leigh
Lancer: Eddie Brock
Archer:Dani Moonstar
Rider: Man-Thing
Assassin: Kain Parker
Caster: Charles Xavier
Berserker: Kain Marco
Ruler: Steve Rogers
Avenger: Johnny Blaze
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>>84211712
>Ruler
Nah, he is Shielder, I mean, that is his gimmick, also he isn't a saint, that's the first requisite for the class.
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>>84210005
You can if they want to.

Buddha wanted to be summoned so he was summoned.

Arcueid didn't mind being summoned in Extra either because "it seemed like fun", though she was severely nerfed because her master downgraded her to be a god when she's way above that.

>>84203183
Being a real mage or not has nothing to do with it and Shirou IS a mage, he's just a very shitty one.

If someone like Shiki Tohno had summoned a servant he wouldn't "have" to fuck it for mana because even though he's not a mage he's still a mutant that has super magic circuits.


>>84203542
The only reason Lancelot can somehow keep with a few GoB's is because he's a Berserker too.

>>84211547
>>84211608
"Archer" was supposed to be something more like "Ranger" but "Archer" was more fit to the story since the whole thing about Archer(the guy) is that he's supposed to be using Arrows but does crazy shit instead.

It was more of a thing to make the reader wonder what the fuck is going on.
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>>84211712
Cap can't be a Ruler.
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>>84211758
>>84211809

I'm gonna be honest with you I fail to think of a single hero that is fit for a proper Ruler class at this point. I was thinking of pre-2000 Steve Rogers when I fit him there to be honest.
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>>84211761
>Being a real mage or not has nothing to do with it and Shirou IS a mage, he's just a very shitty one.

And even being a shitty mage isn't the real reason he has to mana transfer.

Sabers summoning was fucked up and they never got a real mana connection going.
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>>84211827
Best grill
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>>84211851
Having a real connection or not is pretty irrelevant since he still can't give her any mana.
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>>84211761
Lancelot is a pretty capable sword wielder do to his Eternal Arms Mastership, if he would've been able to parry GoB it's up for debate but he would've been way more competent if he had been cognitive so he could use his NPs better. not to mention he wouldn't have been so hung up on trying to kill Arturia.
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>>84211865
Yes. I do like Rider too, and her story is best becauseRider lives
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>>84211927
Nothing personal, kid.
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>>84202473
Saber.
Your favorite swordsman from /co/ is now a woman, because fuck you they always were, and desperately craving dick because that's how Fate just works.
Either that or someone from RWBY for bangability. I mean, say what you will about personality or character development, but...
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>>84211865
that she is.
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>>84212011
Wait my favorite "swordsman" is Julie d'Aubigny, what happens now?
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>>84211951
It's said by Nasu that he only did so well against Gil because of ME boost so no.
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>>84212011
Seigfried, Julius Ceasar,Chevalier D'Eon and Fergus Mac Roich and King Richard have survived the gender bending that most Sabers seem to suffer, If they crave dick is up for speculation.

>>84212069
She's a revers-trap now.
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>>84212060
She gets better tits.
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>>84212069
I hadn't read that but good, fuck Lancelot.
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>>84211927
>>84211927
He would have been able to, either by having to make his fake circuit and actively give her mana, or the process would have just forced his circuits open similar to what happened when he projected Kanshou and Bakuya for the first time.
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>>84212118
Best thing Lancelot ever did in the original Camelot legend was make Galahad.
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Wonder Woman into Saber class.
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>>84212179
>tfw there's a chance they'll make a summonable Gallahad and Bedeviere during F/GO Camelot patch
We might also see what Kay fucking looks like finally.
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>>84212118
>>84212069
Deflecting GoB doesn't really seem like that big of a feat anymore, or ever really.

The only servants that ever had a problem with it were caster and Assassin.

Saber and Lancer did it.
Archer and Shirou(a 16 year old ginger) can.
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>>84212353
Lancer has "Protection from Arrows" which allows him to evade and respond to ranged attacks, not to mention that he's the motherfucking Hound of Ulster, EMIYA and Shirou are just natural GoB counters. That being said, Gil IS the biggest jobber in the franchise and it's always satisfying to see him get his shit pushed in, especially in F/SF.
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>>84208685
"Knight" is just a construct of the system, meaning one of the three best classes. The "knight" classes were made first and historically the three families (who always have a representative in the war) will grab them first.

Berserker is a trap, since a mindless servant that loses most of their special abilities in exchange for smashing power is half useless, and the mana drain to keep them running is more than most people can deal with.

Assassin is a trap because every advantage it holds is cancelled the moment it attempts to actually fight, and the stat adjustments on its ability to fight are so low that it's useless.

Caster is a trap because the best you can do with a Caster is to hole up somewhere, reinforce your defenses and try to turtle your way through the war. Which never works, because everyone always ends up making a team to tear into Caster's base.

Rider is the only half-decent class outside the knights, because the three families knew that they wanted a little insurance in case the didn't get a knight class.

It generally goes, iirc:
Saber
Lancer=Archer
Rider
Caster
Berserker
Assassin

But that's more or less meaningless because a lot of it depends on the hero you summon, anyway. Gilgamesh, and Hercules will always be top-tier summons.
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>>84211827
Dr Doom jokes aside, why wouldn't Nightcrawler work?
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>>84212532
I had completely forgotten how pure that Imp was, I think he could work, probably.
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>>84212615
Norrin Rad's soul is also so pure that if Mephisto had actually gotten it like he used to constantly try to do he'd spend the rest of eternity being burned. SIlver surfer might qualify due to that.
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>>84212532
>>84212615
He gets Excalibur too, doesn't he?
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>>84213115
Wouldn't Samurai Jack count as well? I think I remember an episode where some monks noted his soul was pure.
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>>84213135
Does he? Isn't Excalibur currently with Faiza? I'm way behind on my X-comics to be honest
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>>84213292
The thing is that the requirement isn't so much that the soul be "pure", but rather it must have NO attachments to the previous world and must wish for nothing from the grail outside of serving it. Rulers serve as regulators of the Grail war and as such they must not want it since they're not allowed to "participate" per se. I'm pretty sure that Jack would want to go home if he was summoned in a state of self before he was able to do so.
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>94 replies
>no Doctor Strange as Caster
BAKA MY HEAD
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>>84213441
As long as it is a part of his character, his legend, he would get it.
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>>84213849
I think people are refraining from using obvious magicians as castes becasue they'd be the masters rather than the servants.
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>>84213849
>Trying to tell Dr Strange what to do.
There is no way that's ending well and he has so much MP that it's impossible for anyone to keep him around for more than a few minutes.
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>>84213849
That's like picking Silver Surfer as a Rider or The Hulk as a Berzerker, obvious.
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Saviour

No, really, that's an actual class.
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What class suits him best?
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>>84215470
Lancer. Those focus on speed and flexibility.
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>>84215470
Beside Berserker while wearing pic related.
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>>84203365
>>>84202473 (OP)
>Berserker. Supergirl. I win.

underrated post
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>>84215704
I know how it feels
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>>84209100
Archer = Long range combat class

Each class can be interpreted a dozen different ways, its not particular to Archer.

Rider = Summon something to ride on, or something similar at least.

Saber = Hit people with sharp object class

Lancer = Long thrusty stick class

Assassin = Stealthy sneaky
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>>84203542
There are many berserkers, and Mad Enchant can be interrupted a dozen different ways depending on if you get lucky. Some berserkers retain skills, some berserkers have beastly fighting by nature, some berserkers can turn their berserker self on and off using some sort of switch like a magic potion, some berserkers can talk, some can only grunt. Some berserkers seem sane, but really they're double insane since their madness is EX rank, so while they seem normal at first, even a small conversation will tell you that this person has no internal logic and are dangerous like Joker.

Frankenstein and Dr.Jekyll are the types that can turn it on and off with a switch. Spartacus and Kiyohime are the types that are double insane. Lu Bu and Lancelot can only grunt, but retain some fighting skills. Heracles could originally speak somewhat normally as Berserker but his tongue was bound with a command seal, he broke this seal twice in the game. Tamamo Cat is a type that can talk somewhat normally. Kintoki and Beowulf have such low level madness that its not an impediment in their ability to fight or talk, at E rank.

There are other servants this class does suit; however this is a class that was meant for low level heroes to make them stronger than they were in life.

Lot of heroes could call this their best class
>Lancelot
>Beowulf
>Kintoki
>Jekyll
>Lu Bu(so he doesn't betray you)
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>>84214677
Its Saver, and that's a class for messiahs like Jesus or Buddha.
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>>84215974
I completely forgot about all the actual rational Berserkers that exist aside from Jack. Not gonna lie, I'm deeply ashamed for this.
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>>84216043
I think they realized that having an entire class that can't communicate at all after the second story gets tiring fast, so they find different ways to interpret it each time.

Low level madness doesn't buff you much, but it also doesn't impede you much at all, so it might be optimal at times.

Berserker is one of those misc classes like Rider, that they throw people into when they're not sure what else to do.
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>>84210005
One of the 4 Horsemen of the Apocalypse was summoned once by a Girl in a Coma. The result was everyone around her immediately died of plague.
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>>84212481
>Gil IS the biggest jobber in the franchise

He really isn't, this is a misnomer. He's won more than he's lost by a 2/3rds ratio at this point, yet people still dwell on F/SN incarnation.

He wins quite a bit; king of the jobbers is reserved for someone more like Heracles or Cu, who despite being called super great, have never won a single fight yet.
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>>84216143
No one has died due to Pale Rider, he only puts people into comas in order to drag them into coma girl's dreams. She doesn't want anyone dead, so he doesn't do such a thing.

They are not harmed by the comas either, although their mana is drained a bit. After the war is over they are free to wake up again without permanent damage.
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>>84216154
Heracles won against Archer but aside from that you're right. He lost against Gil, and against Shirou in two different routes, so he's got a 1/4 rtio going on. At least Archer Herk actually seems to be doing something, tho he did got literally BTFO by Hypolita.

Also I really wish the F/SF LN was being translated.
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>>84213135
Wasn't he also briefly the Pope?
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>>84212532
Ruler class needs to be saint or equivalent to a saint in terms of saintliness

Super good saint of a person

I think a very recent story had Nightcrawler's friends "save him" from heaven, and force him to sell his soul.
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I have a better question. You get no catalyst, which /co/ character answers your call? With a catalyst you an direct the summoning but you might hate your partner

No catalyst means the grail tries to pair you up with someone that mixes well with your personality. Who'd be your bro and would it be worth risking getting a shitty servant for?

Either way;

Saber: Daredevil
Lancer: Aquaman or Kida
Archer: Merida
Caster:Mary Marvel
Assasin: Constantine
Berserker: Peter Parker


Power level's all over the place but fuck it
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>>84215974
>Lu Bu
>doesn't betray you
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>>84217198
As Berserker he doesn't have the intelligence to betray you, which is the one advantage of summoning him in that class.
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>>84212088
Chevalier is literally whatever gender he wants to be. Though that's really because of what he did in real life.

And turning into a fat guy is worse than turning into a woman in the case of Caesar.
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>>84217215
>As Berserker he doesn't have the intelligence to betray you
Never stopped him before, it won't stop him now.
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>>84217215
That's not enough to stop him.
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>>84217252
Given Roman views on women and fatness, Caeser might actually disagree with you.
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>>84217252
Ceasar ain't really badly off. He can still move with the best of them, and is agile despite his size. He still shows the ability of a trained general. The reason he looks differently than he did in statues and paintings, I think its implied that he's quite arrogant or deluded, so they simply painted him better looking in the images. He claims that the statue is surely how he looks right now, but you're just looking at him from the wrong angle at the moment.

Chances are the meta reason for making him look like this is to represent a bit of the imperialism and luxury of the Roman empire, the fat cat ruling class. A lot of the artists just have fun with the designs a bit rather than trying to get them exact.

Sometimes they add a bit of fanservice or humor to the design. Its not meant to be taken entirely serious.
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