Now that the dust has finally settled after 25 years, what does

>>84201246
It's gross

>>84201246
It's a hell of a lot better than the crap that passes off as cartoons nowadays.

>>84201246
>Now that the dust has settled
When has that phrase meant anything good?

>>84201348
After a sandstorm?

It's okay.

I don't like the shows that were clearly influenced from it.

>>84201301
This.

Cartoons nowadays lack soul. Ren & Stimpy had soul in spades.

>>84201246
stupid show, nice chicks

>>84201246
funny when it was trying to be cleverly surreal
unpleasant when it was trying to be gross and disturbing

>LOL SO RANDUMB BUTTS
I fucking hate the 90's.

>>84201921
this

The only good thing to come from Ren and Stimpy is the log commercial, and even that is dubious.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RTrAVpK9blw

itt: kids who grew up on ren & stimpy imitations (spongebob) pretend like could have a viable opinion on the real thing

>>84201246
John K is a hack. What was funny to me a child is just gross and disturbing to me now. No wit, no charm, just disease.

>>84203055
spongebob isn't a Ren and Stimpy imitation although it takes elements from it.

If you want imitation, look at cow and chicken

>>84201246
Yes. The first two seasons contain some of the best episodes of animated television ever. The show is notable not for its humor, but for the ambivalence it instills in its audience. It's gross and, at times, truly frightening. Stimpy's Invention, the episode you took a picture from, is a great example of that.

I never understood why /co/ didn't like this show. Not every episode was a hit, sure, but if you don't think Stimpy's Invention, Sven Hoek, Stimpy's Fan Club, Space Madness, and Man's Best Friend are all masterpieces, you have shit taste.

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Hermit Ren is probably my favorite animated anything ever

>>84201246
Loved it as a kid but hate it now.
It just grosses me out now.

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>>84203130
>spongebob isn't a Ren and Stimpy imitation

>>84203257
Prove that it is then.

>>84201301
>>84201558
1. Take off Nostalgia Goggles
2. Take another look at older shows
3. Realize they are extremely overrated and not as good as they used to be

>>84203257
It's not.

Maybe the later seasons you can call SB and Ren and Stimpy imitation but that still a reach.

>>84203141
>YER WHOLE LIFE'S A CHEAT

>>84203458
>Nostalgia Goggles
>implying your bias doesn't stem from your own personal nostalgic feelings

Someday you'll see the truth for what it is, junior.

>>84203458
I never liked Ren and Stimpy. Courage the Cowardly Dog still holds up I think, as well as the DCAU shows. Dexter's Lab was okay, Johnny Bravo was okay, Rugrats was decent. There are some good shows today too, but I do think many of them have a slight decrease in quality. Nothing beats Batman: The Brave and the Bold though.

It had really weird pacing. Awkward pauses and whatnot. Otherwise, fun show.

>>84201558
>,,, soul in spades......

I see what you did there.

>>84203458
In retrospect, shows like Animaniacs and Tiny Toons were shit sitcom humor trying to masquerade itself as a cartoon, trying to imitate the real deal.

Ren and Stimpy and other creator driven cartoons were pure cartoon made by cartoonists.

It's weird that now the creator driven cartoon is now a dead concept since the best people are not being given the jobs and that's why everything sucks.

>>84204162
I want to argue with you, but I bought the Animaniacs dvd sets when they came out years ago, watched one episode, and haven't watched another in all this time. It's so pop culture heavy, I just can't get a desire to keep going.

>>84203569
>Nothing beats Batman: The Brave and the Bold though.
someone with taste? on /co/?

>>84201246
It has no soul, it's all gross-out humor and the same randumb stuff as Gumball.

An excellent example of a creator that needs someone pushing back with limits to make the funniest (and weirdest) stuff they can.

Ren and Stimpy bothered me often as a kid and it still does. It's crazy weird.

>>84203135
>I never understood why /co/ didn't like this show.
it's the new blood, they're basically retarded

i like both eras

>>84203135
the creator badmouthed animaniacs once

>>84201246
I loved it when I was 7 But stimpy kinda fucked over ren.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GrlpSr9YqU&app=desktop

>>84206613
>implying John K. didn't deserve it

Matter of fact, I honestly don't blame Nickelodeon brass for firing John K. Dude was/is a fucking psycho.

Cow and Chicken was better.

The close up ultra realism shot is one of my favorite things ever.

Was this the first to do that?

>>84207578
if it wasn't the first it sure as hell was the one that made it popular

>>84206613
How old are you? No sane adult could possibly side with John K here. From Billy West's perspective, basically an asshole coworker was getting fired and demanded that Billy quit in protest. That's a fucking insane thing to ask of someone. John K is mentally disturbed and so are you.

>>84203458
I'm gonna hit ya... and you're gonna faaaaaaaall.
But first...
FIRST!
I gotta take a whizz.

>>84206613
No he didn't
Billy had no obligation to him at all
if John K wanted to walk out why should Billy have to as well?

>>84204162
>It's weird that now the creator driven cartoon is now a dead concept since the best people are not being given the jobs and that's why everything sucks.

Disney has been doing nothing but creator-driven cartoons for years, dumbfuck.

>>84207562
Cow and Chicken was only good because of Red Guy.

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>>84207554
how is being a psycho bad if you don't hurt anyone

everyone on /co/ is a fucking psycho if thats what you describe as a "psycho"

dude is weird, not dangerous.

>>84207786
see
>>84207672

>>84207678
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AIC_JCIFdo

>>84207861
Tried to get my bf into it based on this clip. It just isn't the same without the music, unfortunately.

>>84208002
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzEyH-ZhOeE

Happy Happy Bump Bump

>>84204162
Go away, John.

It had a very important influence on the cartoon medium and pushed the boundaries of animation.
On the other hand, it's soulless and not very funny, and the creator is a hack whose opinions are awful.
So I like it for what it inspired, not for what it is.

>>84201246
Garbage

>>84208127
>>84208127
Thanks, that seemed to do it. The sound is so important. Does anyone remember the one that ends in them dying and being consumed by maggots as they continue to speak as they rot in their graves? Thanks lads.

>>84201471
Darude?

>>84204162
>It's weird that now the creator driven cartoon is now a dead concept since the best people are not being given the jobs and that's why everything sucks.

That's because they don't want to spend the time and money to actually make good cartoons anymore, with actual creative direction, a vision, humor, and thought behind them anymore.

They just want to plop a CalArts graduate behind a computer that has flash on it, and let him pump shit out with factory assembly-line efficiency.

Although, its a wonder actual 2D cartoons even exist anymore, since everyone seems way more focused on pure 3D CGI these days.

>>84201246
On a whole, the show doesn't really hold up that well, but some of the better episodes like Stimpy's Invention, Space Madness, Fire Dogs, etc still do.

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>>84209062
tip top kek

>>84201246
That mind control helmet gave me nightmares for weeks.
Also the ep where his brain got replaced by a phone. Not as many nightmares though.
And that glass eating scene. No nightmares, just disgusting enough to remember forever.

I love all cartoons, but honestly that show messed me up as a kid. It was really dark and disgusting at times.
Good animation tho.

>>84209012
>Does anyone remember the one that ends in them dying and being consumed by maggots as they continue to speak as they rot in their graves?

Ren's Retirement

www.dailymotion.com/video/x3is23k

>tfw there will never be a truly uncut DVD set

>>84209410
We used to have it on VHS, all those years ago. I'm fairly sure that would have been uncensored. That is long gone now, of course.

>>84209299
I'm pretty sure that this show on infinite repeat as the background to a generally abusive childhood was a dreadful combination.

Still, cartoons are fun h-ha ha

>>84209299
I've always felt this show was geared more towards teens than kids at certain points.

And yes, the animation was great. Especially when Carbunkle Cartoons were behind it.

No sir, I don't like it.

>>84209096
3D is probably considered unsuitable for TV production (costs too much or takes too long).

Happy Happy Bump Bump

It's the only Nicktoon that I can watch with out feeling dated.
>>84201921
That is 100% false, this is why.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWnWwN1z_UM

>>84211026

Goddamnit TMSGuy. Why must you ruin these threads?

>>84211077
but he's right
tiny toons and animaniacs best episodes were all unsurprisingly animated by a japanese studio

>>84211133
Indeed.

>>84201289
Surprisingly it only started to get super gross during the Games seasons

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>>84211194
This.

(1/2)

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>>84211243
The anons who bitch and moan about the toenail scene in "House Fancy" (SpongeBob) don't know how good they have it.

(2/2)

Ren and stimpy had some moment, but man. I remember watching some of this shit in my late teen years on nicktoons, and fuck that shit is nasty. Like over the top gross for no reason but to try to push the envelope as much as possible.

While I enjoyed some animation stylings of red and stimpy because it was unique and interesting, it was also abused a lot with the whole ideal of "Every frame, there needs to be something moving." while movement in cartoons is good and you don't want things teleporting all around and shit, you don't need someones heads exploding and shrinking every time they say something with an exclamation mark.

It's just... shit. There were too many cons and not enough pros to make it an enjoyable watch.

>>84211356
Heres the short of it.

Spumco = good, mostly the Carbuncle episodes.
Games = bad.

Got that? good.

Ren and Stimpy was a real cartoon for kids, teen and adults, as in, everybody could enjoy it for what it was.

Modern cartoons that try to appeal to both kids and adults follow the Shrek model of making jokes, references and allegories that fly over the heads of the kids and only the parents could understand.


For me if you think Adventure Time, Gumball and Steven Universe is better than 1994 Simpsons, Ren & Stimpy and Duckman, you are crazy.

>>84211391
>implying that ALL Games episodes are bad

I mean, yeah, the quality did drop but it was still watchable.

>>84201246

Godlike

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Animation was good.

Writing was hit or miss.

The best episodes are classics.

The rest are forgettable.

John K way overrates himself.

We should all look fondly at the good episodes and move on.

Fun fact: Ren's insane fits of laughter were supplied not by John K. but by Billy West.

I used to love it as a little kid. Tried to watch it in my teenage years and thought it was horrible. Tried to watch it as an adult and fucking loved it

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>contacting Shout! Factory
>"I'd love it if you guys would do a proper reissue of Ren and Stimpy on DVD, the way it originally aired on Nickelodeon. The old DVD set has cuts all over the place and used the wrong masters."
>1 or 2 weeks later
>"Anon, thanks for the request. Unfortunately that was not a Nicktoon that we were able to get the rights for."
>mfw

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>>84212634
They were prepping an uncut box set a decade ago, but it never happened, presumably because Paramount decided they couldn't wring any more money from fans. And judging from the packaging, John K. only had any interest in ensuring the episodes he worked on were uncut, meaning the Chicken in a Drawer short, for example, would still be missing if this set had been released.

Still, I would've loved to see the bonus features. The set was supposed to have an animatic for an unfinished Adult Party Cartoon episode.

>>84212922
I never saw the "Chicken in a Drawer" segment when Nicktoons Network was airing late-night marathons of Ren and Stimpy many moons ago.

I guess it was edited out of later airings just to shove in more (real) commercials.

>>84212922
It got a release in Germany but the APC stuff was removed.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/REN-AND-STIMPY-DIE-REN-AND-STIMPY-SHOW-KOMPLETTE-SERIE-SD-ON-BRD-BLU-RAY2-NEW-/111966136741?hash=item1a11b3a9a5:g:MiwAAOSwq19XC3KK

>>84204265
That is where you need nostalgia goggles to fully appreciate it.

>>84213507
http://www.forcesofgeek.com/2014/02/the-ren-stimpy-show-complete-series.html

it's not really uncut

I think I prefer Cow & Chicken over Ren & Stimpy.

>>84213570
>Most of the cut content was restored.
Still better then nothing.

Can we all agree that Adult Party Cartoon was a mistake?

>>84213570
That guy sure does know his Ren & Stimpy.

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>>84214310
He did write the book on it, after all.

https://youtu.be/xBUTdclOT6M

>>84207672
Because Billy said he was fucking leaving. If I was in Billy's spot I wouldn't have left either, but I wouldn't be a back stabbing little snake and say "yeah bro, I'll leave" that automatically makes Billy a liar and unreliable as a person.

>>84215064
Shut up John K.

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In October 2001, John Kricfalusi met with the families of 9/11 victims. After a brief interview in which he expressed his condolences and hope for closure, he reportedly burst out laughing and made airplane noises and mimicked two planes crashing. He then picked up the child of a deceased victim and whispered into her ear "Your dad's dead, bitch", and proceeded to put on a pair of sunglasses and unleash a barrage of martial arts attack on the small child. She was rushed to the hospital where she was pronounced dead due to extreme trauma. When asked later about the incident, Kricfalusi became visibly sexually aroused and repeated the same attack on the reporter.

What does /co/ think of this?
I am old enough to remember going to the gym in the 90s, the gym tv being on MTV when it was still a music channel, and this being on heavy rotation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKSoBJ8WirE

>>84201246
I enjoy it but it was more than John k that made it great. It had a lot of cheap imitators but it has flaws and is over rated. It influenced the industry and has significance in animation history but it's creator does not it's not a great but it certainly had a effect on cartoons for a era. 8/10 it aight

>>84215138
he would be a lot cooler if that were true

>>84216397
Fuck off Famifag

Carbunkle Cartoons, the animation studio behind some of the GOAT Ren & Stimpy episodes, later worked on that Baby Huey revival from the early 90s. I can't tell the difference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycokePkL2fw

>>84209410

Billy could've tried a little harder to make Ren and Stimpy sound more different from each other.

>>84216397
i fucking hate mir
just a bunch of korean wannabes who ape off anime

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I just started rewatching this the other day (for the first time since I was, I dunno, fucking nine?), and I gotta say I'm shocked at how good it is. Some of it might be nostalgia, but I'm finding myself genuinely entertained.

Good animation, good jokes, I'm happy.

>>84218271
Ignore TMSGuy posts

Report TMSGuy posts

DO NOT respond to TMSGuy posts

>>84218481
...happy joy joy?

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>>84218547
alright listen here you little shit

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>>84218603
God that episode had amazing faces.

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Ren & Baboon >>> Ren & Stimpy

>>84203130
>Cow and Chicken is a Ren and Stimpy rip-off
If you've barely watched or remember the show then sure. Inspired at best. The pacing and feel is completely different. Closer to a more hyperactive 2 Stupid Dogs.

>>84218481
>>84218603
>>84218655
>having this garbage saved

>>84203130
>>84213583
>>84218961
David Feiss actually worked on the first season of R&S as an animation director.

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>>84219132
>not having garbage saved

Where do you think you are?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIsd356wfdQ

>page 10
I don't think so

>>84201246
it's the cornerstone of modern animation.

>>84222448
>>84222459
Animated by John R. Dilworth himself.

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>>84201921
>>84202907
aw, what's the matter? not a fan of butts?

Animation was among the best when it was on a roll and okay when it wasn't.

The main problem was that it was structured poorly, story was near nonexistent or just bad and never felt it was particularly funny but humor is personal taste and the structure of the jokes were solid enough.

Good night /co/

Hope this thread is still here by tomorrow

I liked it, but haven't watched it in ages.

My favorite parts were cutaway gags. Powdered Toast Man. Log. Happy, Happy Joy, Joy.

Haven't seen any of the episodes since it last aired on Nick. Might give it a watch through again at some point.

Adult Party Cartoon sucks.

>>84203130
>>84203257
>>84218961
>>84219194
David Feiss also worked on 2 Stupid Dogs. A lot of the later R&S crew went on to work on Cow and Chicken.
Some R&S guys (Chris Mitchell, Vincent Waller, Sherm Cohen) along with some guys who worked at Spumco in the late 90's (Aaron Springer and Erik Wiese) were involved with season 1 of spongebob. A lot of them ended up also being involved in early post movie with some other R&S people (Richard Pursel being an outline writer for post-movie psongebob) getting invovled

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had some good tits

>>84203569
BATB is an awesome show but are you saying it's the best of all time or something?

>>84206613
gee how long have korean inbetweeners been doing this kind of shit

>>84206613
17 minutes in there's a lot of guilt plastered on Billy West's face

>>84206613
fuck you anon i cant stop myself from watching this whole thing

>>84218519
That was not from TMSGuy was the thing.

>>84224948
Pecs are not tits.

>>84225581
Looks more like discomfort. The whole thing seems really awkward for him, and Stern and crew heckling him about it probably isn't helping

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Bob Camp > John K

>>84222448
>>84222459
Cool, never seen these before. Really got the Dilworth character design going on for Ren.

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>>84201471

Very expressive and crazy animation that I really love. Big influence on my art. Some of the pacing is pretty slow and exaggerated, Ren and Stimpy being a disturbing and weird show. John K's opinions and views on his blog can be shit and he can seem like a bit of a jerk. Respect what he's accomplished through R&S though.

Overall with some hits and misses, it's still an important Nicktoon.

>>84201506
You don't like Spongebob? Probably the show with the most R&S influence out there.

>>84229022
This, bob camp needs more respect

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>>84229022
>>84231697
He's certainly less of an unstable asshole than John.

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>>84231952
More Bob Camp.

>>84209530
Yeah, it even started on MTV as I recall, and then later after Nickelodeon cancelled it and John K did the more obvious, crass adult version it was on Spike

>>84222734
I read that in his voice

>>84232052
Actually it debuted on Nickelodeon, then after the first season concluded it began reruns on MTV.

MTV even aired the very last episode ("The Last Temptation/Sammy and Me") when Nickelodeon was unable to because of Standards and Practices.

>>84201246

The original show os the onlu good thing John K has ever done, even after being fired.

>>84232055
I think we all did