How's Your Webcomic? /hyw/ #290

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Scrub Authors GOODIE Bag

Here’s a short list of sites that any new webcomic artist or writer will find handy:

>*-Struggling to find that perfect FONT? Create your own using this link;
http://www.myscriptfont.com/

>*-Don’t forget to brush up on that ANATOMY:
http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
http://www.quickposes.com/pages/timed

>*-What’s a list without some reference STOCK IMAGES?
People: http://senshistock.deviantart.com/gallery/
Scenery: http://www.shutterstock.com/

>*-Here's a big fat compilation of CHARACTER DESIGN REFERENCE:
http://www.pinterest.com/characterdesigh/

>*-Finally, here are some links to get a rough WEBSITE started up:
Easy to use tumblr webcomic theme: https://www.tumblr.com/theme/39018
Do’s and Don’ts for starting a site: http://pastebin.com/kNR2W5mV

>*-Here’s the contact sheet if anyone wants to put information down, like their site and webcomic:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwfOSHXfrgvcf--PkPz9jXL6p5RqIsrYvXYwgQpgT3k/edit#

>*-We also got a SKYPE CHAT room going on,
To join the chat, seek out 'starlinemike' or 'scribblehatch' and they'll add you in.

>*-We also got a DISCORD CHAT going on,
Ask for an invite in the thread.

>Wise words from John Cleese:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ0lck7oo4A

>Invisible Ink:
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_1.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_2.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_3.pdf

>Paper Wings
http://chrisoatley.com/category/podcasts/
https://web.archive.org/web/20140625035030/http://paperwingspodcast.com/

>Fonts for your webcomic on Blambot:
http://www.blambot.com/

>Writing Resources:
http://www.cienciasecognicao.org/rotas/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Robert-McKee-Story.pdf

>Guide to promoting your comic:
http://miss-melee.tumblr.com/post/143483233951/

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Decided to redraw Maude. I wasn't satisfied with how she looked.

>>84179951
She's a QT.

>>84179951
>>84180001
wouldnt chase that out of my barn with a pitchfork that's for sure.

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Posted this just before the new thread went up. I'm also looking for an invite to the discord.

>>84179951
What's your opinion on dirty fanart?

>>84179951
I like the eyes on this one more. They carry over with the partially shut look from the previous panel.

>>84180032
Practice, my friend... then your comic will have all the QTs.

>>84180032
Stop feelsposting and draw.

You don't need to bang out an entire comic in a day, just draw.

Can anyone recommend a good, reasonably-priced printer to print webcomics at home?

I want to see what my comic will even look like in print before I try going through some printing company.

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Inked it. Will color tomorrw.

>>84180189
Just fucking report them. Giving them replies is giving them what they want.

do any of you use references? what would you recommend?

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>>84180001
That she is Anon.

>>84180031
Been finding more possums and racoons around my complex. It's nice being given the chance to observe them.

>>84180072
That's an interesting style. I'm really digging it. Got a blog?

>>84180096
I've been asked that before. I honestly don't mind it. It was bound to happen, and I wouldn't wanna be the type to censor other artists.
and yes, i am speaking in past terms. There's a few Maude lewds in the booru, for anyone interested.

>>84180312
Cute! Too cute... Gonna get some insulin.

>>84180312
>dem details and that lovely linework
I've said it before, and i'll say it again. Magnificent!

>>84180328
Depends on what kind you are looking for. Google some stuff anon, it's not that hard.

>>84180374
I mean if you recommended working with references or not

>>84180374
Of course you should work with references, whenever possible.

>>84180404
but isn't that like copying?

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Hi, guys. Somebody asked me to swing by and post updates again.

>>84180431
No anon. It isn't. It's only copying if you trace it. Use references when you can. You won't regret it.

>>84180444
Welcome back!

>>84180096
i dont care if they didnt take the time to clean up their pencil drawings or sketches, i'll take em dirty or not!

>>84180312
HNNNNGH love all that detail
... hoo boy though, my beloved peg-feet kind of backfire when it's rollerskates time..
>>84180072
gettin' a BFG feel. i think the human's eyes need to be lowered though. i mean it's a loose style but that would do wonders.

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>>84180431
Most people highly misunderstand what referencing means.

>>84180072
>>84180339
I do, yeah. https://gufflebag.tumblr.com/

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Reposting

Kingdom Hearts, or work on comic?

>>84180867
never give up anon!!!!

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>>84180300
A-Anyone?

>>84180938
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=cheap+printers

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Frivolity!!!
but it IS leading somewhere
somewhere where those suggestions for making hell more interesting will come in particular handy actually.

>>84180072
Love this art style, the big guy looks like he could've come out of The Gorillaz.

>>84180694
do you also use references for human figure?

>>84180962
There's a reason I asked here. I don't trust random Google links. I assumed fellow comic artists would have a more well-informed opinion.

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Sisters updated with a four pager.
Shit starts happening again next week. Damn pacing for the sake of starting off a new story arc. Rewriting the next few issues because I miss the violence, but still trying to preserve cohesion.
http://thesisters-comic.com/
https://tapastic.com/episode/389215

>>84180072
This looks interesting. What's your story about?

>>84180072
>I'm also looking for an invite to the discord.
https://discord.gg/vb82K

>>84180867
what would the boring effeminate main character say if you asked him?

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Tfw all your thumbnails are crap and you have to spend hours reworking them so your pacing won't be crap

>>84181077
wish we could help, but i don't think anyone here does their own printing. that's pretty enterprising of you

>>84181248
>that's pretty enterprising of you
It's more that I want to go through testing, trial and error on my own time and terms, rather than ordering samples from an actual company only to find out they look like shit and have to go through a much more annoying process to fix them.

>>84180323
I'm pretty sure it's bones anyways.

>>84181163
i suppose cohesion is worth more than violence..

ohh I'm piecing this together now. He can channel the old leader so that makes him a good choice.. at least in the eyes of the others, whom they're trying to impress, while still kinda running things. in fact the 'puppet' line is kind of on point, he just wasn't quite aware of who was holding the strings when he said it.

I don't quite get what Jam means 'they were big books'.. meaning she expected more to be in them? Or is she talking about other books he didn't fetch? I feel like we're following up on an offpanel scene it would have been useful to see.

>venture bros reference
so much fuck yes I can't even. GO TEAM PUNCH MAGIC PUNCH

>eats his pizza like a madman
yeah. for a second I forgot Bea had mozzarella sticks and I thought it was stuffed crust pizza that was just miscolored in that panel, but noo.. he's eating it straight up crust first. Now i can see nibbling the crust-edges first, to sort of 'get them over with' and save the best for last, but.. the fuckin MIDDLE?

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>>84181163
Long-term, it's about a witch living during the American Civil War, split into disconnected short stories. Similar to Hellboy in storytelling style, I think.

This one in particular is about the witch coming to terms with the fact that she's living in the shadow of the witches of the medieval period, and with it the 'giant shadow' they cast.

>>84181229
interesting overlappy wings there.. the sort of impractical thing one would only expect to see in an angel, but in such a drab and unassuming size and color scheme.. this has a neat feel to it i tell you what.
that said, shouldn't the middle pair of wings have a double-alula just like the others?

>>84181458
You got a website?

>>84181275
sensible. but in that case your question should be 'what do the professionals use' since nothing else is going to give you an idea of what to expect, right? you couldn't expect comparable results from any other printer.
anyway the samples are free

>>84181557
Just my tumblr. https://gufflebag.tumblr.com/

>>84181458
oooh that's neat!
yeah see, her eye placement looks a lot more right in those other examples. and the higher cranium too. I'd stick with those designs and try to keep more consistent. she looks just perfect in the lower left.
also not to put too fine a point on it, but i fucking love it when something is set in the past, but to them, it's the present, and they compare and contrast their present to a MORE distant past. That almost never happens. I also like the future equivalent, which happens even less often.. and even then usually in less satisfying ways (oh those laser cannons are like 50 years out of date, ours are three times as good!)

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>>84181443
Yeah there was something of a two month-ish time skup from the end of the first story arc and the start of this one. Sammy's been the guy dealing with deciphering Scott's books. Which have been something of a background element since the end of the third issue. Jam tends to read them but doesn't seem to understand them because "Scott's a rambler."

Jam expected there to be cool stuff rather than generic universal spells. I mean, she can't even throw a fireball and that's right up there on the "what wizards ought to be able to do" list.

Things will pick up shortly, I might move an important spell to an earlier issue just because it adds some good tension. Honestly I think it'll all be better once we get more Craig-centric.

>>84181458
>Historical Witch Stuff
Check out "Escaping Salem" by Richard Godbeer if you can, it puts a really interesting look into the official law/legal process of witch trials aside from the fuck up in Salem and is really a very interesting read that might be of use to you.

>>84181689
yeah that stuff is hella interesting. and from a scholarly point of view it's always neat to pin down how "yes, the popculture version of that is incorrect, but the real thing is still pretty weird, and it WAS different here in this famous instance than it was in other places"

>>84181578
I'm just talking basic shit, like if my pages are the right size or if colors look off in print compared to my screen, just simple little shit. That's why I was hoping for cheap, but not so cheap that it falls apart or prints 1997-tier black and white jpeg.

>anyway the samples are free
But what if I get a sample that looks like shit and I want to try fixing something?
I doubt they'd let you keep ordering samples of shit over and over again while trying to fix mistakes or something, not to mention you're waiting days in-between.

>>84181019
In my comic? No. In pieces meant to be showy. Sometimes.

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Shit, speaking of all this printing talk is it really not okay to print comic stuff under 300dpi or whatever?

My pages are 72dpi and 800x1000 pixels so I guess I'll never be able to print these without it looking like shit, huh?
People who print must make their pages and artwork fucking huge.

>>84181898
>72
just delete it

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>>84181651
I love that sort of thing too. Historical fiction is my fucking jam, it's just a pain in the ass to write because of the amount of research required to be historically accurate.

>>84181689
That sounds phenomenal, actually. Like I mentioned above any resources are helpful.

>>84181898
Pages need to be massive to hit the minimum 300dpi limit, which means several thousand pixels large. Takes up a bit more storage space than I'd like but the potential for print is worth it, I think.

>>84181752
yeah i hear you, it's a novel idea.
in the meantime i can tell you to change your comic to cmyk mode if you wanna see what it'll look like printed (granted your monitor still won't tell you perfectly, but any printer will at least tell you the colors even if it's low-quality, because that's about the ink), and similarly check your DPI and what the size is given in inches to understand how big it'll be printed. those two things you can test virtually and on any cheap printer..
also i have seen lots of modern printers that can use that high quality glossy paper, so maybe look for that.

>>84181829
yeah what... what word DO we use to describe our non-comic work that's meant to stand alone as a larger, more detailed piece? I feel like I need to talk about that a lot
>>84181898
i mean, that's your final size for web, but surely your original file is bigger, right? unless you're doing pixel art no way are you drawing on that small a canvas
and whatever the printing standard may be, the fact is you really don't need to be that high. higher than 72, yeah, but..

>>84181947
not only that but of course buttoning yourself down to accuracy always takes a little of the fun out (though going by her clothing obviously you aren't too married to it. or else witches just happen to be rocking clothes like that in the 19th century as their equivalent of black robes and pointy wide brimmed hats)
and then history keeps changing all the time.. but it's still fun using it as a guideline and filling in the many blanks yourself.

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>>84181553
Thanks, I'm trying to find a nice blend of fantasy and mundane with my comic.
And crap, thanks for telling me. I keep forgetting the details on his wings.

>>84180968
oof, I only just now realized the vertical strip format makes it a bit more ass to read on 4chan just by hovering over it with the cursor, the way I read most of the stuff here. sorry bout that lads.

>>84181970
>i mean, that's your final size for web, but surely your original file is bigger, right? unless you're doing pixel art no way are you drawing on that small a canvas
I really didn't know it was so weird.
Like I said, my pages are all 800x1000, which I thought was fairly large.
I draw in Flash and my art and colors are all pretty flat, maybe that has something to do with it.
I didn't even know what dpi was until lurking here and seeing it mentioned in printing discussions at some point. I always just went by image dimensions.

>>84182172
>i draw in flash
no worries man, you saved the original flash files, right? that shit is vector. you can make it any size you want, instantly.
>I always just went by image dimensions.
and you really still can, you just have to remember those dimensions are 2100x3150. if you want to remember them as 7x10.5 inches at 300 dpi, that's fine too.

>>84182241
Oh god but my stories run hundreds of pages, the thought of doing alternate sizes for all of it both in flash and in the actual pages sounds like way too much to be worth it.

>>84182263
printing is a pretty heavy endeavor. you might be able to find a batch-saving / batch-resizing program to do the doity woik for you. I used one once, but that was making things SMALLER so that's a different story. but i'm sure people who work in flash must have a decade and a half of tricks and quirks and there must be someone SOMEWHERE who's got a little script that you can feed in "take all the flash files here and batch-convert them all to 3150 px"

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>>84182605
>That bottom right.

HMMM. That's interesting

>check out internet archive just to peruse my old page-title shit
>weirdly enough it has a saved version of my cbox chat thing from 2014, which appears on any archived version of the site regardless of date
other longrunners should go check theirs out too. it's neat

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I'm having a hard time with this big panel. It's supposed to show the main character nearly escaping being hit by the truck, but I think the perspective makes her look a little too big, even though she's supposed to be a little closer in the foreground.

I don't know. This panel's weak. Any crit or advice would really be appreciated! I don't mind redrawing this panel.

>>84181970
>yeah what... what word DO we use to describe our non-comic work that's meant to stand alone as a larger, more detailed piece?

An illustration?

>>84182739
If she where a bit more to the right it would look better.

>>84182739
the point is gotten across, however it looks like she was about 10 feet away from getting hit, not actually in any danger.
>>84182763
yeah that'll work i suppose. but to me illustration means drawings done to share the job of telling a story, with writing doing the rest of the job.

>>84182849
I'll fudge it around and see if that helps.

>>84182915
Yeah, that's what I'm worried about, I want there to be some danger there.

Hmm. I don't necessarily agree with your description. Illustration can be sequential, but that doesn't mean they always are, or that they always really need to tell a story. Sometimes they're just standalone drawings, I guess?

>>84182739
I think it might be a little more apparent if in one panel you actually showed her in front of the truck, rather than just to its side.

>>84182954
semantics is always a kick in the earlobes, but if an illustration isn't what i've said, then... what does it illustrate?
I guess I should be slightly less specific, as you could also call the diagrams in an instruction manual ilustrations, or the drawings people used to do for natural guides to things before photographs were invented. but basically an illustration is supposed to represent something. hence illustrate.
whereas if i just drew a cool robot because i felt like it, I don't know what to call that, and how to say "this isn't how I draw in my comic, it's how i draw for ___s"

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>>84182959
That's a smarter idea, and probably a more interesting angle to look at. Do you think just the one panel would be more effective or should I split the moment into two?

>>84183020
A doodle? A sketch? A mountains? A sky? A windmill?

I would personally call a drawing I did for shits and giggles either a drawing, a doodle, a sketch or an illo depending on how detailed or rendered I made it.

>>84183064
yeah i usually want to say like 'a piece' if it's meant to be a standalone work of art appreciated as a picture. (or more often, as a design for a greater franchise i've made)

>>84183064
I prefer the one on the left, but maybe try drawing her more to the left of the panel as if she had just seen the truck and the reader could make the connection more that she jumped back.

>>84183112
That's smart! I think that's what I'll go with, thank you.

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>known some guy online for years
>he is the reason I even draw to this day
>he has always been better than me at art, telling me that he will help me with my webcomic if it ever finish the story of it
>one day he just ditches me and blacklists me on every single website we did anything on
>he now makes furry porn and shit like that, and refuses to even talk to me

Holy fuck if he ever gets popular I'm so fucking telling all the cringey things he's done around me. That nigga is a double crossing fuck and I hate that he is doing better than me currently in life. Fuck man that nigga is slowly getting popular and it makes me so fucking mad when art of his gets decent popularity

>>84183180
practice until you beat him, USE YOUR HATE AS DETERMINATION AND PRACTICE YOU LAZY FUCK!!! SHOW WHAT YOU CAN DO!!

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>>84183228
He's years ahead of me though, and I'm slowly realizing what I've been doing to make art is probably the dumbest thing I could be doing if I want to improve.

If I would beat him then that would require me starting all over in how I draw stuff, which would take years, and I'm slowly running out of time to practice this stuff because I'm already making a webcomic, and stopping it altogether to slowly rediscover how to art wouldn't do anyone any good

This nigga embraced how I draw stuff too and now because I believed what he said all these years I've basically dug myself a hole.
Sorry /co/ I just need to vent a bit. I've gone through a really tough day today.

>>84183180

Vengeance is a great drive, use it.

>>84183315
Just keep it up, man, you'll improve if you keep going. We all believe in you. It may take time but you'll get there.

>>84183315
don't sacrifice your comic to make time to study
sacrifice all your anger and retribution instead, then you'll have the energy and drive to study. whatever else happened with that guy, he benefited from having known you. That's reason for you to feel good about yourself. after that, forget him. literally. none of those other feelings you're talking about (or that one anon seems to be bolstering) are going to go anywhere.

>>84183144
Some speed lines on the bottom left panel might also help to illustrate it.

Gives the impression the truck just left the panel's view and it was really close to hit her.

>>84183315
I'm gonna be honest with you because you seem like someone who would understand and HYW doesn't seem to aknowledge the elphant in th room, KEEPING DRAWING BAD WON'T MAKE YOUR DRAWINGS BETTER NOR APPEALING, you have to realize that if your drawings are subpar you should be practicing your abilities instead of making a webcomic with mediocre art, because art (no matter what they say) is the most imoortant part in a visual project

>>84183387
This desu

You gotta try studying as much as possible and getting critique if possible, learn all the time.

>>84183387
>KEEPING DRAWING BAD WON'T MAKE YOUR DRAWINGS BETTER NOR APPEALING
did for me.
but it's a lot fucking slower.

>>84183449
Prove it

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>>84183387
You're not wrong at all, and I already do regret starting it too early. I have no clue why I did either, I guess I thought I was ready. Honestly I believe my art is good enough to start a webcomic though. Its not me sucking that gets me mad, its that how I make my stuff makes sub-par art in twice the time as anyone else

Thanks though. I appreciate it. Made me feel a bit worse but a bit better too

>>84183315
Forget him like he forgot you. Get on improving yourself and your art and the rest comes second.

If you truly care about your comic/art/skills you should focus on that by working on it, asking for advice and critique, acknowledging that it everything takes time and fuck the past.

Like the great Shia once said: "JUST DO IT".

>>84183502
literally nothing I could show you that you wouldn't just deny
in any case, like I said, it's slower. and there's a lot of backslide. it's a lot better and faster to spend your time studying.

>>84183519
>literally nothing I could show you that you wouldn't just deny

What do you mean? Just post a progress image from a few years ago. Even if you're not so good now, you were probably worse before (in your words, and also according to common sense)

>>84183536
Progress/improvement pics would be a great thread activity.

>>84183511
the point is to make you practice, maybe I'm wrong and you're good, the practice to be better, maybe you're just plain awful, the practice to prove me wrong, I believe in you anon, do you?

>>84183536
oh sorry, I mistook you for someone else. You were actually serious.
We've got a lot of posters who deny progress has happened at all, for this or that person, instead of acknowledging the different rates of improvement and how best to ramp up that speed

>>84183558
I believe my stuff is subpar at best. Like nothing that can get me a job as a graphic designer or anything but I can draw shitty memes for the internet, if you get what I mean.

I don't know if many people here would think my art is decent, but I have posted here before, people have said my stuff has a pretty good style to it all, which is basically like telling an autistic kid they are special in their own way so idk if I'm really that good or not

>>84183572
Okay, so post progress

You know it would be nice to get just one nice comment. I understand I need to change a lot of stuff, but would it kill people to say just one nice thing. It kills me when people who I perceive to be shittier than me get showered with praise but the universe just conspires against me

>>84183712
Link ya shit

>>84183712
I'll say something nice about your stuff
I need to see it first though

>>84183720
Nah m8y. I just need to vent. Do you really think I would be dumb enough to link you to my stuff after writing that angsty shit? Fuck no.

>>84183773
Jesus is everyone just venting today?
That's two in a row now

>>84183773
Fucking relax.

>>84183825
>everyone
>two

>>84183825
I've been fairly stoic, grateful even in the face of harsh criticism. But, I feel like I just sort of snapped. Why can't I be appreciated, even a little bit, for my effort. What do I fail to see in my work that makes it seem sooooooo fucking repugnant to others.

>>84183879
I mean I don't know if I can feel sorry for you or not, because currently from how you talk it seems like you draw a bunch of furry stuff or something and expect people to take your stuff really seriously. No offence to you but how you put it thats how I see it.

Atleast you get some kind of attention. I literally get none

>>84183912
No, I don't draw furry shit. Just normal people. And normal things.

>>84183930
I'm curious though.
Doodle something up real quick and show us.

You don't have to worry about us finding you online because as long as you don't post it anywhere else we could never find ya

>>84183950
Exactly, we can't help you solve your problem if we don't know where to start. We'll be nice. It's all hugs here.

>>84183950
Listen, it's 4:00 in the morning for me. I should be asleep. And it's L I T E R A L L Y impossible to hide in the internet. My way of rendering is very distinct. with archiving being a thing and people having a sadistic desire to ridicule others, it wouldn't take much to put two and two together.

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I have like 2 bucks on Project Wonderful and I'm bored.
Do I buy some cheap adspaces for several days or one for like a dollar for a couple days?

>>84183996
Man, you're making this into a big deal. If you just link your work we can talk about it, discuss it, and maybe say some nice shit. It's not like you just confessed to murdering people with your art or anything. We're not gonna judge you for wanting praise. We all want it in some way or another.

>>84183996
You're super good I love your art!

Now go to bed.

>>84184019
I think you can plainly tell I've dug myself into a deep hole here. No meaningful discussion will be had after my last few posts. Maybe some other day.
>>84184031
How i yearn to hear these words and have them be meant genuinely. I don't think I'll ever have the wherewithal or talent to have that happen.

Good night to you too

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>>84183996
>with archiving being a thing and people having a sadistic desire to ridicule others
I fear this exact same thing dude, don't worry we all have done stupid shit on the internet. I have entire folders of shitty mlp drawings from back in 2013
Also just some really REALLY awfully done things worse than that, and they make me cringe to this day

Good morning, /hyw/

>>84180323
Whatever you say, Scribblehatch.

>>84181163
>spitting down
I've never heard anybody use that phrase in my entire life. Other than that the dialogue is pretty decent.

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making new comic instead remaking one.

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Well, it's not the most impactful panel but it's a lot better than it was before (>>84182739). Thanks for all your help, /hywc/. I love you

>>84180300
A printer that produces anything like prints/books is likely to cost a lot, I think. If you're in school you're probably better off using your art department's print lab. If you're not, there might be a print shop you can use nearby.

>>84180312
Cute.

>>84180328
Use references for practice. Use them for your final work after you feel stuck but before you finish your underdrawing. They're especially important for environments IMO.

>>84185536
Not to upset you, but this is actually kind of worse. It looks more like she's walking through the crosswalk and a stationary truck is honking at her to be a dick, so she gets spooked and has to collect herself for a bit.

>>84182739 this is actually way better at conveying what you wanted.

>>84185988
Thanks, I can definitely see what you mean and I'll keep that in mind! I've got both pencilled pages saved just in case, so I'll ask around and see what looks a lot better.

(and you didn't upset me, I'm still in pencils so it's no big)

>>84185536
>>84182739
I love your art, anon.
What's your comic?

>>84181689
>>84181947
Montaillou: the Promised Land of Error is pretty good too. As is the Malleus Malefecarum. If you're into that sort of thing.

The first is about the Catholic church stamping out the last vestiges of the Cathar heresy, but it's especially about the village setting. It sort of gets into the local social networks in interesting ways. Apparently the priest and bayle were part of the same peasant family and they were simultaneously heretics and collaborators with the inquisition, using their power and position to confiscate rivals' land for themselves and such.

The second you've probably heard of, but on actually reading it it references weirder myths. Like witches being able to steal people's penises. Though this version insists it's an illusion. You can read elsewhere (I've forgotten where in particular) about birdnests full of penises that crawl around and are fed barley and stuff. It's wild.

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>>84186094
Thanks, anon! It's called Laughter In The Face Of Death, and it's about a girl who tries to avoid death by showing a grim reaper type character life on the plane of the living.

It's really short, about 40-50 pages. I'm not super confident in it, I've really been working on it lately just to get something out there.

>>84186126
Sounds like a fun read to me!
I'm in the same boat as you, sort of. Been working on a little comic for the past month and it's exhausting. Gotta keep moving forward, though.

Keep at it, your comic's gonna be great!

>>84186163
Thanks, man! Comics can be a thankless job but it feels so damn good when you've finished something. I believe in you!

>>84185536
Flip the panel with the truck. Please.

>>84187732
I get what you mean from a comic storytelling angle, even if it would mean she would be flipping all over the page. That panel might not even look like that in the end, though, since the more I think about it the weaker previous version of that panel moves the reader's eyes down the page in a more effective way anyway

>>84187732
>>84187776

I would actually suggest flipping the close-ups at the top of the page instead. The truck panel and the panels after it are all from the same view, it's the top row that's confusing.

>>84183180
double cross him NOW, tell us all his secrets

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>tfw your friend tries to get you to go out but you tell him you're working on your comic and he calls you a loser and hangs up

>>84188691
Ahhh life...

>>84188691
>tfw your friends keep trying to invite you to a party but you're too much of a goddamned paranoia shut-in and just work on your comic all day instead

iktf

>>84188171
Shit, that's true too. I'm gonna need to look at this page in conjunction with the previous one to make sure all of it will flow better that way (I'm sure it will help now that I think about it, thank you)

>>84180431
Tell me Anon; how are you supposed to draw anything new without using references?

>>84180444
Good to see you broke from that rather dull 2*2 format
Though he looks weird with 4 fingers

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>>84188691
what the fuck is with people bullying and looking down on others for their hobbies? why do comic nerds get shit on so hard?

>>84188691
>tfw your friend invites you to a party, and you say yes just to be nice, but you actually wanna stay home to draw you comic.

>>84188774
>implying socializing with normies is superior to higher artistic pursuits

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>>84189027
The sad part is that they're not even NORMIES. They're all comic artists and illustrators, too, I'm just the least accomplished and least interesting and skilled out of all of them. They've got all these diverse pieces and I have nothing. I'm afraid to mingle with them anymore because it just feels like I'm being laughed at constantly.

So if I'm going to be an anxious shut-in, I may as well make something, right? R-right, guys? Hard work will make me happy, right?

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and DONE

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>>84189198
That is way too adorable. Now I'm craving a slice of pie with kawfee.

Thoughts? Didn't get much feedback last time but maybe that's due to not having much to say about my comic. If anybody has any tips or tricks to help with my style, I'd sure appreciate it.

https://tapastic.com/series/FrICTION

I'm on my second episode and I'm working on a page right now.

>>84189295
At first glance, your panels seem really cramped. Why did you choose to work with the horizontal layout?

>>84189372
It's what I'm used to. I've worked with vertical layouts before, but horizontal just let's me visualize my ideas better.

>>84189421
The problem is Tapastic, the site you use to host your comic, is really designed around vertical layout comics. You're not working with your host very well in regards to how you format things.

>>84189620
Understandable, but I'm just more comfortable with horizontal layouts. A friend of mine is working on a website for my webcomic, so hopefully in the near future it won't be a problem.

Is it still readable? Even though it's cramped you can still tell what's happening, right?

>>84189813
IMO it's definitely legible, although I would suggest working on black/white or black/white/grey balance on your pages to push clarity a bit more.

>>84189813
Then why use tapastic? There are tons of other options more suited to horizontal or normal page comics

>>84189850
Not him, but isn't Tapastic one of the better sites to get eyes on your comic?

>>84189850
I figured it would be easy for people to follow my comic if they liked it. Making a tapastic account is fairly simple, so following my series wouldn't be too much of a hassle for people.

>>84189160
If you're prepared to work for years and make sacrifices in your social life then yeah it will make you happy.

>>84189198
Adorable anon, simply adorable.

>>84189844
Like putting more grey tones in?

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>>84180431

>>84183610
There's a lot of potential ways to enjoy something. if someone says they enjoyed part of it, and you know the rest is shit, just take that as guidance. that's the part you don't need to work on as much.. so go work on the other parts.

>>84183610
I've posted my shitty art in these threads multiple times but people weren't condescending and I didn't end up killing myself.

>>84183610
You're all fucking garbage. Just fuck off and draw

>>84186126
cute as fuck. protect dem cheese puffs, gurrrl

>>84179599
So I'm working on writing out chapter two. I was thinking I'd split the characters up showing one character's perspective and then the other with no cutting back and forth. The actions of one will impact the other's story, and each half will help the reader understand the other, plus the crazy ending planned for both. Probably call it "prisoner's dilemma," since that's fairly apt.

Part of what I'm doing here though is introducing sort of an opposition faction for the crown. When the soldier entered a tournament under "a coward's name and guise" it was for one of these guys, if that's relevant. I'm kind of dry on ideas to make these guys interesting, and not just ersatz robin hood or generic guerillas. Like... those could feasibly be enough, but I want them to have more charm or texture or whatever.

Anybody got any good ideas for this kind of thing?

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I've just been lightly stretching some background muscles

i never really got around to showing bug life outside of the desert

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>tfw if u deleted ur comic tomorrow no one would really care

>>84191053
See ya

>>84190772
iunno, a blacksmith who makes all his own armor and weapons? i'm not sure what kinda guys youre lookin for

>>84191207
The premise of the current chapter is that the soldier and warlock are arrested for murdering the king. Sort of. There's some complicated shit as usual.

The opposition, for now, are ambushing the witch and her henchmen (the folks who did the arresting). They're looking to kidnap the queen (they think the queen is there), but weren't really counting on fighting a woman who can make shit explode with an insincere compliment.

The leader probably won't matter for a bit. He knows the soldier, but for now he's only going to interact with the warlock in the second half.

>>84190772
Kinda tough to suggest something for a chapter that's already mostly planned out without knowing what sort of things you want the opposition to accomplish, or why the soldier was with them.

In a typical fantasy setting I'd think of something like a growing merchant class that wants more power, rival nobels who fund a rebellion, stuff like that - but your comic is pretty bizarre so that sort of thing does feel rather mundane by comparison.

If I remember correctly, the crown has some relationship with demons or the like, could that work as a jumping off point?
Alternatively, you could make them generic robin hood types but give them a very unexpected motivation, or odd tactics for achieving their goals and make them interesting that way.

>>84191330
That's somewhat helpful, yeah. I figure the leader probably knows a little about the demonic stuff at least, but dumping that information into too many characters' hands is risky at this point.

A more mundane motivation for the foot soldiers would be helpful. Initially I sort of had them as disgruntled peasants. A sort of power vs power thing would be nice, but the best case scenario I'm searching for has a mix of the dregs of society in there. I feel as if the nobility has enough focus already to some extent.

Just being able to talk about this stuff is helping me get my thoughts together though.

>>84191329
awesome. still don't know what you're asking from us

>>84191496
Details. Fluff. I don't know. I think just asking I've got most of my thoughts together on it. With the exception that I'm still not clear on the motives of the rabble involved.

>>84191400
In fantasy novels you usually have the disgruntled peasants as foot soldiers and the (secret) leaders of a rebellion as other powerful political figures, so it seems like an obvious thing would be to just turn that on its head and have the leader as an angry peasant who somehow managed to rally all sorts of important people behind him. Unfortunately, that would put a lot of focus on rich people again.

Fantasy settings with satirical elements often use some sort of beaurocratic thing to enrage the masses, like a really stupid tax or a new law that requires overly complicated paperwork required for everyday things.

If you really want the absolute dregs of society you could also go the route of including crime bosses and their various underlings (blind beggars, purse cutters, etc.).

>>84191053
If you knew it'd make a difference, you'd delete your comic today.

>>84191614
>leader is an angry peasant
I kind of like that, yeah.

Now that I think on it, maybe the crown is trying to stamp out Ish's cult. Some of the rabble are members, while others were just sort of dragged in by more generic complaints over property confiscation as part of the inquisition. It's a little on-the-nose similar to a book I'm reading, but it adds another layer of connection with the soldier (he stayed with family before he was sent to appease Ish).

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>tfw you post feels about your comic as a way to feel involved in the threads because you lack the motivation to actually work on your comic and have something substantial to post

Today I found out that my comic is on Comic Rocket. I'm surprised somebody already did that for me. It's pretty neat.

>>84191811
Which one was your site again? I remember liking it when you were posting it a long while ago. (Plus, I had a hard time following the premise of the last few posts since I haven't caught up with it)

>>84192382
thearm.webcomic.ws

Made a post here a couple of threads ago saying I was thinking about finally doing some productive with my comics habit and putting something together.


I've been drawing out ideas on paper, but today I ordered a wacom intuos and acquired Manga studio - most of the tutorials I can find for Manga studio are for doing specific things (eg. 'how to ink in Manga Studio') rather than a general overview of the software for someone new to producing digital art.

Anybody know of some particularly good tutorials?

Also, anything that explains things like what DPI I should be drawing at would be great too, since I don't really understand that.

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>>84183180
>makes furry porn
>doing better than [you] currently in life

>>84192587
There's some manga studio tutorials on youtube.

Learning dpi isnt hard to do with a couple of google searches.

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>>84183180
ill be your friend. i have built up rage on art too. If you're interested you can give me some trash email or tumblr and i'll respond

>>84192587
Just work at 300 DPI. As for tutorials, the ones on the website for MS/CSP worked fine for me.

>>84192587
Ctrl+Paint has some decent tutorials that should be applicable to many programs.

ReMIND has a blog with some okay information on comic-making IIRC.

If you plan to print, figure out your page size and make the file 300 (or more) DPI. For the site, save a separate shrunken down version at whatever size (here you'll be thinking pixels rather than inches) you want to display at.

>>84192851
300 DPI AND a large enough size (7 x 10.5 inches or whatever it is), if you're going for printing. we've already heard from someone in here who was working at 300DPI and like 2x3 inches

>>84192924
Yes, you're absolutely correct, thank you.

I still can't imagine how that worked...

>>84192960
well that's 600x900.. yeah that's too small actually, I dunno how that would work.
I have all my shit set at the default 72 DPI because I don't care and don't plan to print, and it's an easy setting to tweak later, but I generally work in a 2000-something by 3000-something canvas for big works, and 1800xwhatever-it-takes (usually very very tall) for comics. which still isn't really big enough

which /hyw/ comics do you think are most likely of getting popular?

>>84193037
The Sisters, or at least it deserves to be popular.

>>84192373
Somebody did it for me too. It's nice.

Have you claimed ownership yet? Some people have to jump through hoops but I just used the admin email account attached to my comic's domain and they instantly approved my claim. I haven't done anything with it though.

>>84192924
Exact page dimensions are available from a number of self-publishing print companies whose business it is to take your money and print your comic.

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This week is filler because next week will take ages.

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Here's a WIP, liking the bottom panel a lot.

Also thinking I might make Urchin's eyes yellow instead of blue, I think they look better. I made them yellow to match the flames, but then I thought they looked good normally, so!

>>84193037
Sisters, Mimi, whatever Harro's working on. Actually holy shit I just checked and the guy's got over 7k followers on tapastic.

Most of the rest are too slow, niche, or bland for all that.

>>84193169
Looking very lovely Dustin mah boy

>>84193172
>the guy's got over 7k followers on tapastic
And for some reason he's signed a publishing deal with Blu Trinity.

>>84193128
If she opens her mouth, won't Death Kid try to escape?

>>84193309
As well as he's doing, that might not bring down his sales that badly. Though I'm not entirely sure who's pushing his books or how.

>>84193464
Are you talking about the Demon's Mirror guy? Isn't he still working on Star Hammer, too?

>>84193499
Is he? I was looking at A Better Place.

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>>84193169

Nice!

>>84193323
There's so many things in there that can escape.

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>>84193532
Dammit.

>>84193309
how are they doing? staying in business?

>>84193577
They just started. I don't know of any "business" they're even making, aside from printing and willingly being associated with West Tree

>>84193599

Which one is Harro, again?

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>>84192616
That's the worst part of it man
This nigga can do shit like that and still get credit as a decent likable artist
The worst part is that he pretends he's a girl now, and is even fucking dating some other furry porn artist which im pretty sure he doesn't know he's a guy

>>84193599
I'm really trying to understand how anyone could think it'd be a good idea to put that as part of the catalog. I suspect the printed copies we saw are the ones he ordered for himself.

>>84193664
Did Demon's Mirror, before that finished.

>>84193599
>>84193749

Kind of weird to drop into the middle of this conversation- but I just don't have the time/energy/money right now to print out hard copies of my books. Blu trinity is very very new, but the basic idea is that I can keep doing my web thing, and they will handle the physical portion. If it doesn't work out over the next year or two then things will be renegotiated.

I really want to get copies of my comic(s) into peoples hands, and what I discovered after printing and selling a few demon's mirror books at a con was that handling the physical side of things is worlds more work than putting up pages on a website.

It's very important to me that the books are of a professional quality, but I believe that Blu Trinity will be willing to do revisions with me to get them to that point.

There are other publishers I could have pitched A Better Place to- but very few of them would have allowed me to keep putting it online for free, and even fewer would have allowed me to keep all copyright. (that is if they even wanted to publish it in the first place)

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>>84193169

>>84193880
Ahhhhh I LOVE IT, thanks, man!

>>84193873
I guess, man. I know plenty of people who do fine with self-publishing. You do you, though.

>>84193941

oh I'd love to self publish- But honestly I'm just not very good at it? I literally have a POD version of "Demon's Mirror" online, and every way I can think of to get it into people's hands just doesn't make any sense. It either costs them too much money, or actually loses me money.

I think the only way to make it work is to print a huge amount, and store it at your place- but that requires up front costs, and space at your home. And then shipping itself is a massive cost.

I just want to work on comics-

>>84194000
That's what Kickstarter is for.

>>84194000
fuck comics

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I'm having trouble.

I've drawn this thumbnail

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Just finished this, gonna dump.

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>>84194142

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>>84194149

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>>84194163
Thoughts? I'm thinking about more of these tiny informative cautionary tales.

>>84194000
You need a manager.

>>84194089
that's pretty good construction. what's your comic?

>>84194000
>I just want to work on comics
You have been pretty prolific.

Also I'd by a printed copy of Demon's Mirror if it wasn't crazy expensive.

>>84194179
It's nifty. Long term it would be good if you found fresher material.

>>84194000
Damn, how many cons are you going to that you have to print that many books? I've only ever gotten into one so I can't conceptualize.

>>84194085
This familia

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>>84194206
I don't have one yet.

It will be my second page, but I have to salvage my first one first.

I've taken that other anon's advice, but I think I'll have to redraw it from scratch. This is the one I have to redo

My brother just quit his job so he could livestream video games on twitch.tv all day, and it's made me oddly motivated to get back to work on my webcomic

If he's not afraid to follow his dreams like that, I shouldn't be either

>>84194275
Not Harro but printing companies have minimums and it's cheaper to buy more than less anyway.

>>84194305
Your dreams would be far likelier than his dreams. Barrier of entry for webcomics may be low, but it's even lower for twitch streamers. That market is even more flooded, and has no end game if the stream market collapses.

If you put effort into drawing, at worst you'll still find work as background monkeys or basic graphics design.

>>84194340
Yep, most printing companies have minimums to the order of 100, 500, or even 1000. You have to be prepared to seriously invest in it and plan to go to lots of cons and aggressively market the books. Comics is a business, brother.

>>84194305

I'm probably going to quit my job, come January or so, and focus on working on comics. Got enough money saved up to last a couple years.

I don't fucking care at this point. I'd rather die, clawing my way to my dream tooth and nail, than work too much longer at soulless, mind-numbing job where no one cares, and you're just another cog in the machine anyway.

>>84194381
And companies that have lower minimums tend to be real shitty like uprinting. Got 40 books from them and most of them were damaged.

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>>84194395
oh god do I know that feel

>>84194179
I dig stuff like this!

>>84194179

these are really great! The detailing and the silhouettes are fantastic

>>84194299
oh god i know that specific feel

I think I'm getting back into the groove of things, so i might be uploading again soon

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>that feel when you finish a page and it looks great

>>84194919
It's okay. That page was really a practice page, anyway.

I think it is too stiff anyway, in composition.

I} think I learned a lot making it; getting better at drawing on the tablet and such.

If I were to get a rough draft of a page done tonight, how much of the weekend would theoretically be spent if I wanted to finish it up with lineart, color, dialogue, etc?

>>84195058
huh? oh i was just looking at the thumb.

>>84195060
Anywhere from 1 hour to 2 weeks, depending on about a trillion various factors, most of which rely entirely on you.

>>84195060
some of all of it
all of some of it

>>84195104
Oh, good. I wanted to invoke that.

>>84194807
>>84194827
Thanks!

>>84194267
Yeah, that's kinda my issue. I'm an artist, not a writer, and a lot of my stories come out awkward or cliche.

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little progress, is still progress.

>>84195410
>Yeah, that's kinda my issue. I'm an artist, not a writer, and a lot of my stories come out awkward or cliche.

Don't sweat it too much. You learn to write same as you learn to draw: by doing it. Don't be afraid to stretch your legs just because you don't think of yourself as a writer.

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Ey, check this shitty wip of the page I'm working for my "terrible" webcomic.

>>84196045
cant read the stripy text

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>spend all day at work thinking about my comic
>eager to work on it once I get home
>get home, but want to relax a little first
>that was almost 2 hours ago

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Decided to tweak the concept a bit and maybe now it's too gross. She uses an anti acne face mask to rip out her eye zits.

>>84196739
you are pumping these out now, what happened?

>>84196946
I seriously can't tell if you are joking or not. I always post thumbnails before I make pages.

>>84197096
im saying you seem more active. are you stealing hours from work?

>>84197192
Yes she is.

>>84197192
Oh well yeah because there is nothing to do there. I'm home now though.

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Protip:

Making a folders of sorted references is for winners

>>84197481
>>84197235
Time is money, that's minor embezzlement. We have a certified criminal in the thread.

>>84181183
The invite expired.

Is it possible to get another link?

>>84197530
You wouldn't consider it that if you knew what I got paid.

>>84197592
Or where you work.

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>>84197488
>someone is so retarded he's proud of not his artwork, but a collection of pictures he found on the internet

Is there by chance a comic about skeletons and skeletons puns somewhere?

I have a boner for those.

>>84198025
Are you stalking me, anon? Do you know where I work?

>>84198622
delete this post, then your idea, then yourself

>>84198691
confirmed spooked

>>84195410
>I'm an artist, not a writer, and a lot of my stories come out awkward or cliche.

That's something you improve with practice. Short stories are an excellent way to start; I was doing something similar early on (short 3-5 page stories where the hero met a different mythologial creature) before moving on to my more definitive project

>>84194395
Best of luck, anon.
I MIGHT get the job I'e been aiming for in London, so it looks like I'll have to stop updating for a while after I finish the chapter about the Selkies to move (I was already planning a hiatus to improve my art, anyhow). But I do admire people who are willing to drop everything to work on their art; I do contemplate doing it sometimes, but I think this will remain my massive pet-project.

>>84194000
For someone who "just wants to work on comics", you've put out some downright amazing material. Hell, I just wanted to draw folklore creatures an historical clothes; but your stuff is atcually worth paying for.

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>planned all day yesterday to do nothing but draw shit and continue webcomic plans
>was excited as fuck to do it
>wake up this morning sick as fuck
>can barely even move

Thanks life. I'm not gonna have this much inspiration to draw shit in months

>>84199054
>implying you had any inspiration in the first place
Excuses. But enjoy your video games though, or netflix, or whatever it is that your lazy ass plans on doing all day.

>>84196739
>too gross
Nah, you gotta do this. It's too off the wall not to.

>>84199161
Nigga I did. I planned this shit since last night because of a spike in wanting to do stuff, but it was like 5 at night when I planned this shit so I wanted to go to bed

I woke up at like 2:30 and could barely leave my bed. Fuck
Hopefully I can do this stuff tomorrow but I might not because of plans

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>>84198776

>>84199054
dont you just love it when that happens. oy

>>84199490
It's great, I get to chill all day and not feel guilty

bumpuddles

>>84180968

Okay, not gonna lie, laughed at "White flour, white flour!"

>>84201576
and I think it helps that that particular foodstuff is already a contentious thing with the types of people who like to get mad about things without understanding the underlying science. so it has another layer
i dont know if cereal is made with flour.. probably not..

bump
plots are confusing

>>84201771
>i dont know if cereal is made with flour.. probably not..

It's not. Not ever.

>>84197582
https://discordapp.com/invite/KM5CC

>>84202798
yeah it's more made from a gruel isnt it. a ground up slurry of grain that's sprayed or extruded in whatever shape and then baked in that form, possibly puffed first.. oh well!

>>84197582
https://discordapp.com/invite/KM5CC

Introduce yourself after you joined.

>>84198521
that's nice, but you forgot to mention the part about you being a total dumbass

>>84198521
Having an organized reference collection is a good thing, anon.

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>>84201449
Wrong version. Rough version of the text and an art clean up error on the other one.

bamp

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mine

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Back after an extremely long hiatus. I've accepted this comic isn't going to be great and am just going to settle for 'okay'. Still good practice and I still wanna write/art it.

Other than Hiveworks, are there any other good webcomic collectives to apply to?

>>84205536
Taptastic?

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>>84205536
>he didn't get accepted

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>>84205666
I didn't apply

>>84205666
They haven't even sent out acceptance letters yet, Satan.

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I started my webcomic as a joke, thinking that I wouldn't go farther than one or two pages, and now I'm almost 200 pages in and want to redo the beginning. Should I try to keep the same style as the current pages, or redo the entire thing with proper inking and more undersketching?
Might be worth mentioning that I am planning on switching to inking and coloring at the end of the current chapter. Thanks in advance

>>84205818
>he doesn't know

>>84205818
what about rejections did anyone get one of those

>>84205920
Put a cover page on page 0 to make a better impression and focus on pushing forward, probably.

>>84205935
Please.

>>84206027
Nope, not yet. They're still getting to the final decisions.

>>84206059
how are you so sure?

>>84206076
;^)

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>>84206076
Are you an idiot?

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Update! What do you guys think?

>>84206907
This looks Baller. Name?

>>84206911
Use your eyeballs, anon-kun...

>>84206911
Miss Melee. http://miss-melee.com

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>>84206907
I'm so sorry

Who /drawingtostaveoffsuicidalideation/ here?

>>84207363
Probably. The comic is basically about convincing a suicidal universe not to just give up and die, so I'd be surprised if there isn't some deep-seated issue that I'm trying to work through with it.
Oh well, people seem to like it so far. Hopefully I can eventually figure out a happier ending than the one I have right now.

>>84207517
Are you Bizzaro me? My comic is about the acceptance of death. Although I wrote the first draft several years ago, it's definitely hurting a lot more as I write it now. I'm working through a lot of issues and my own mental illness, and especially trying to cope with losing one of my friends.

Mine doesn't really have a happy ending, though. My MC has to die for it to make sense.

>>84207927
>Well, even an ending where somebody dies can be "happy".
Yeah, they did it in Sandman.

>>84207653
>>84207653
Well, even an ending where somebody dies can be "happy".
Maybe they manage to make peace with their past and make the most out of what life they had left. Maybe they leave a mark on somebody else.

My "happier" ending wouldn't be a case of the world becoming a place without death and loss, but somehow managing to convince it that there's a lasting value to transient things, and that the pain of loss is an affirmation of the value of the thing that was lost, rather than a reason to never value things.
Right now I'm having trouble writing it in a way that I'd find convincing.

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SEDUCTIVE LOOKS.

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>>84208322
Lewd!

>>84207942
That's true, it all depends on the story. My MC just ends up learning that trying to cheat death is unfair. At least I think that's what she learns. I'm not a very good writer.

Anyway, your ending sounds really pleasant. I think if you just try to stay genuine and not overpower that message with flowery writing (not saying you'll do this, but I've seen good messages get a bit muddied because of the writer's want to be as eloquent as possible) it'll be strong.

>>84208467
Cute! CUTE!

I started my webcomic and now I've turned gay.

This is your fault, /hyw/.

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>>84208912

>>84208467
>trying to cheat death is unfair.
That seems like a rather outlandish message. Unfair to whom? You'd have to seriously hurt someone before it outweighs saving your life.

>>84208912
You're welcome, Anon. I hope you enjoy your newfound love of cocks.

>>84208979
It's gonna be a shit comic, anon, I don't know what to tell you. I'm not a good writer.

>>84209694
I AM a good writer and I'm telling you your webcomic will be great!!!

>>84209760
Hey, fuck you, guy!

I'm kidding, thank you. In all honesty, there's a lot of my own personal baggage going into this story. I think the message is a little less "cheating death is bad" and more "death is inescapable and inevitable"? I think as someone who has recently lost a friend and deals with a lot of fear about death, making this will be more of a personal endeavor than anything. I don't know.

It may not make a lot of sense, but I really just need to make SOMETHING, you know? I just need to put something together to feel halfway alright about being an artist.

At least it will look good. I thope.

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http://LuckyHazard.thecomicstrip.org/

woooah another update! a new girl appears.

also have a scrapped panel from the next update.

>>84209833
>trying to deal with serious themes
Hope your art isn't shit

>>84209937
Lucky for you, it is!

I'm currently too busy to start it up, but I came up with a story and was wondering what you guys would think.

>after a hostage situation gone wrong, a member of a SWAT team becomes aware of the existence of a supernatural conspiracy within the government and secretly recruits the rest of his team and a few trusted officers to wage a shadow war on them.

Arc 1
>the main character corners a hostage taker and tries to talk him down, but the hostage turns into a monster and tears her captor's throat out before trying to silence the officer as well. He manages to kill her, but the corpse reverts to a human shape on death, leaving him with doubts about his own sanity, the bullet-riddled corpse of an unarmed woman he was supposed to save, and a pending investigation from internal affairs. Desperately trying to convince himself he's not insane, he secretly investigates the dead woman.

Arc 2:
>Not knowing who to trust and convinced that he's dealing with an inhuman threat beyond the scope of the law, the main character starts a vigilante conspiracy of his own to fight the bad guys - but how far do the ends justify the means?

Arc 3
>as the monster society begin to realize something's amiss, the officer himself has to confront that things are not nearly as black and white as he thought they were.

I think I would have two more arcs after that, with the eventual conclusion being that monsters are revealed to the public, but with the officer trying to create a sort of peaceful coexistence.

The main character would be an eccentric, by-the-book cop with a strong need to be a hero powered by his desire to make up for his pedophile urges. This is what eventually gets him to empathize with the less-horrible monsters, like vampires that only feed on willing hosts or who live off of blood stolen from hospitals.

The original idea had vampires as the monsters, but I'm afraid that might be a bit passé.

>>84209962
too bad for you

>>84210022
:(

>>84180444
agreed with >>84188810 human figure should have 5 fingers. Its only okay if it's cartoon

>>84209833
>"death is inescapable and inevitable"
That's not really a message, is it?
Everybody already knows death is inevitable.

I think it might be a better idea to try and make the message something about how people should or shouldn't handle the inevitability of death.

Perhaps how people are too afraid to confront their own mortality, making them unable to appreciate the limited time they have.

>>84210006
Turn the arcs into acts.

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>>84210142
That kind of is the message, at least that's what I'm trying to get across. The main character has a near-death experience and meets Death, then tries to trick Death into spending time on the plane of the living in order to make Death forget, or basically stave her own death off a little longer.

It basically turns out that Death spends too much time with the living and death (the concept) comes to a halt because she isn't doing her job anymore, and the MC has to accept that she, and everyone (eventually), has to die and that there's no use trying to escape from Your Time when it comes.

Like I said it's kind of all over the place. Pls no bully

>>84210181
I'm not sure what you mean.

>>84210231

I dig your clean style.

Do you do the outlines in manga studio or photoshop?

>>84210490
Thanks, that test panel was done in Clip Studio Paint/Manga Studio. I got it last week during the sale and I'm honestly very pleased with it, as someone who does comics and illustration often. Going back to PS for comic work now is like trying to draw with an oven mitt on.

>>84210518

clip studio really is so solid for doing comic work

Also- having a legal copy and getting free updates for like, $20 is a good feeling.

>>84210694
It's amazing. Every new tool and technique I find is like sex for my brain. I honestly am blown away that it's only $20 during the sales.