The morality of homestuck

Suicide is always an option.

>>84094053
Homestuck contradicts all of its morals.

>>84094053
its totally hot to fuck your siblings

>>84094053
the moral of the story is "thanks for playing"

it's okay if your life sucks because there are hypothetical circumstances where your life might have been pretty okay

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>>84094053

Watching movies and playing video games won't make you talented.

Being in a gay relationship will fix all of your mental problems.

Assholes always win in life.

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Don't let your greed for tumblr tween buxx hijack your story.

OR

Don't introduce more characters than you'll have the time or patience to develop and use.

OR

Just read Problem Sleuth and skip this tire fire entirely.

Milk from your clueless audience as long as possible and poison the minds of many for your benefits

>>84094053
Somewhere in paradox space, a version of you is not a fuck-up and has actually done something useful with their life.

This is true for all but Karkat.

>>84094271
This anon pretty much nails it yeah.
>tfw act 1 till 4 was awesome and it completely got fucked up during act 6.

Don't start what you aren't sure how to finish?
>>84094271 has some nice lessons too.

>>84094183
In hindsight I never realized how much of an unintentional fuck you that "Thanks for playing!" was until just now.

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>>84094053
It's not your cow so you're not allowed to be mad when someone kicks it.

>>84094351
that man is abusing his story without conscience
you know what they say about that
it's a sign of a potential serial killer

>>84094053
Y'know that quote from The Matrix, about how you can't really change the future because you've already made the decisions in the future?

Probably that.

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>>84094374
>abusing his story
>a serial killer
eh? eh? anyone?

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>moral could have been a simple thing such as "go outside and have an adventure and take 4iaks instead of staying in your own isolated little world feeling, you know, homestuck.
>moral could have also been that it's okay to feel ennui in this situation, but to appreciate what you have and those around you and to remember that you're talking to people billions of miles away and forming a nice relationship and how that's a beautiful thing
>and it could've just been a simple hero's journey story about all the kids feeling like they were part of something bigger but stuck in their respective shitty lots in life and eventually getting out and having just a really great grand Ole adventure of a lifetime

Homestuck could have been something beautiful, lads

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>>84094053
Don't spread yourself too thin by multitasking on more projects than you can handle

Keep up communication on projects taking longer than promised and during long hiatuses

Ooh, can I change my answer?

I want to add "Shipping is fucking cancer." as a nice lesson to learn.

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>>84094410
https://youtu.be/gOSnen64a7M
https://youtu.be/5NACWZBDtN8
https://youtu.be/jyDdV8eIHGE
https://youtu.be/8bmJX7K_0TU

It could have been so great

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>>84094432
>homestuck used to be good once
>more than good, it used to be great

WEle all k ow where it went wrong, but why?

Why did it have to be like this? Why did it have to be this way?

>>84094081
/thread

>>84094477
tumblr

>>84094477
He chose the gullible teenagers with their parents' credit cards instead of his original fans.

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>>84094053
Free will doesn't exist and none of your choices matter. You have no freedom at all.

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>>84094497
>>84094503
IT'S NOT FAIR
IT'S JUST NOT FAIR

IT COULD HAVE BEEN SO FUCKING GOOD
IT COULD HAVE BEEN A BEAUTIFUL COMIC THAT CAPTURED THE COLLECTIVE FEELINGS OF ENNUI AND LONGING FOR SOMETHING MORE THAT WE'VE FELT FOR GENERATIONS
IT COULD HAVE BEEN SOMETHING SPECIAL AND WONDERFUL WITH COOL MEANINGFUL STORIES AND CHARACTERS WITH INNOVATIVE AND INTERESTING STORYTELLING

AND ALL WE GOT WAS

TRASH
R
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>>84094520
At least we got some good porn out of it right

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>>84094520

>The streets are empty. Wind skims the voids keeping neighbors apart, as if grazing the hollow of a cut reed, or say, a plundered mailbox. A familiar note is produced. It's the one Desolation plays to keep its instrument in tune.

>It is your thirteenth birthday, and as with all twelve preceding it, something feels missing from your life. The game presently eluding you is only the latest sleight of hand in the repertoire of an unseen riddler, one to engender a sense not of mirth, but of lack. His coarse schemes are those less of a prankster than a common pickpocket. His riddle is Absence itself. It is a mystery dispersing altogether, like the moon's faint reflection, with even one pebble of inquiry dropped in its black well. It is the most diabolical riddle of all.

>"Absence diminishes little passions and increases great ones, as wind extinguishes candles and fans a fire." -Walt Whitman

>Yes, you are certain Walt Whitman said that. One hundred percent positive.

>You have a feeling it's going to be a long day.

>>84094477
Act 5 was the point that doomed Homestuck, basically because Hussie got too enamoured with the trolls and the fan reaction to it. He hit the mystical Sonic OC equation, then rather than let them be minor characters that do their bit and shuffle off of the main story they hung around forever. Then he tried to do the same thing again with another set of kids, only these ones were even less interesting. Then another set. Then another set, each one losing more of what had made the kids and trolls compelling in the first place. Then bringing back some of the original characters whose arcs had completed satisfactorily in order to recapture the initial buzz (failing because that buzz relied on the early context, now lost). Then he tried rebooting the troll dynamic with two new characters, who were, respectively, angry Karkat and plot-dumper (one of several plot-dumper characters, in fact, so even more of a failure).

Simultaneously getting infected with Tumblr brain diseases from his new fan base making him want to deliberately alienate the older Whistles/Humanimals/PS-era fans, losing interest in the story of Homestuck, depression, his personal life going off track and being a complete moron about the whole kickstarter debacle killed any momentum there had been, turning what had been a fast-paced constantly inventive story into a dirge about self-absorbed arseholes.

deviantart did nothing wrong

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>>84094539
You know, it's been literal years since I read that and when I did I was a young lad who didn't know how to read into literary things that well. And resding this now...

Jesus, that's beautiful. The only other time I've felt something that deeply cutting into a characters feelings was that one story with guts and the little flower fairy, just a random flashback after his life has been ruined where he just reminisces about being a kid without dreams, long ago.
Postan some music to accommodate these feels
https://youtu.be/w1o4O2SfQ5g

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>>84094539
>not really charmed by static white rooms with blank characters
>idly clicking page after page until i get to this one
>immediately hooked
>got into homestuck pretty much solely for hussie's writing style, fucking incredible prose and character dialogs
>five years later take the ultimate cucking in a silent end of which hussie didn't write anything, didn't draw the panels or even plan/care about the character interactions being depicted

>>84094420
>>84094183
>>84094271
>>84094274
This

BHNTDWF

>>84094687
WEENIE

>>84094407
It took me a second, but I got it.

>people writing fuckin ESSAYS pinpointing each of homestucks flaws and exactly where hussie figuratively touched them
homestuck was pretty good honestly you guys are gettin a bit twitchy

>>84095060
Here is your (You)

Make sure to mention Davekat and homophobes for more replies

>>84095111
im never lacking replies and i never talk about davekat

>>84094410
Fuck, why did Hussie have to fucking drop the ball so hard? This would have been perfect, but instead of being written by any other writer, it was written by Andrew "Gotta Be Subversive!" Hussie.

>>84095323
At least the game is being written by hussie
:^)

>>84095391
But it's not, it's being written by a random Twitter user who praises Zoe Quinn that made a clown joke once.

>>84095446
I was literally pretending to be retarded anon

>>84095060
Homestuck's ending was a catastrophe and everyone remains pissed about it.
I'm still mad. My friends from Tumblr are still mad. The one guy I know from Reddit is still mad. The ex-MSPA forum members I've seen elsewhere are still mad. We're going to be talking at length about Hussie's fuckups for a couple more years, really. You'll have to wait it out.

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Homestuck's goal was to create a webcomic so bad it'd teach even Reddit how to bantz

>>84095474
And I apparently was literally being retarded, sorry

>>84095519
t. reddit mod

Hussie can fuck up his webcomic all he wants

The multi-million dollar game his fans funded, however...

>>84095555
Look anon that's hussies cow
Don't complain that the milk you payed for is spoiled
Ur literally being entitled

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>>84094053

>>84095584
but this comic is good, disproving its own point

One of the morals I got from it is that writers are ridiculous for creating "character arcs" for humans in fiction, because real human beans have no character arcs.

Fuck off Dave.

>>84095323
Which is hilarious since the ending was the least subversive. It was literally wretchedly tidy

>>84095705
The ending was in the spirit of acts 1-4 but not acts 5-6
So basically all of acts 5-6 feels like a massive waste of time and a colossal pile of unanswered mysteries and ignored character drama

Hussie wearing a Pepe shirt makes me think he's become too fucking meta

Like Hiveswap will be deliberately shit because Hussie wants to make a point about how we shouldn't expect not-shit games or whatever

>>84095705
>kids have a beautiful happy ending
>two seconds thought informs you that they still have something to do
>that thing leaves them stranded for ever and probably dead
>most of the rest of the characters in the comic also probably die or disappear
>but its totally ambiguous

i dunno about tidy

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>>84095705
>Expectations being subverted becomes expected, therefore the norm
>Ending played completely straight with no ball or other-shoe drops at all
>Fanbase flips the fuck out on a monumental scale

I'd congratulate Hussie if I weren't so busy being anally devastated.

>>84095763
Please don't compare Act 5 to Act 6

Act 5 is terrible things happening to terrible people, it's a tragedy of errors

Act 6 is Hussie obsessing over the "meta", spending months on a storyline and then having him as the author retcon it to make some shitty Mario joke

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>>84094053
1. Don't bite off more than you can chew.
2. Don't set the ending of your story in stone before you start writing your story.
3. More characters does not mean better characters.
4. Never trust Hussie.

>>84095791
>people claim there was never johnrose teasing

>>84095858
>male and female characters talking to each other is ship teasing

>>84095858
That isn't any more romantic that davekat persterlogs.

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>>84094053
Never fall in love with characters written by a hack. It will only lead to pain.

>>84095858
The Strilondes basically had some kind of flirting or innuendo with literally anyone they ever talked to. It's the reason so many crackships like Dave/Equius exist.

>>84095764
>Like Hiveswap will be deliberately shit because Hussie wants to make a point about how we shouldn't expect not-shit games or whatever

>tfw Hiveswap's gonna be defended because Hussie will essentially tell us that it's supposed to be shit

Goddamn, if that isn't one last fuck you to this fanbase then I don't know what it is.

>>84095764
iggigigigigigipigigigididdegeredoo can make him write cuck and wear meme shirts but she can't give us the tiniest reassurance that hiveswap will be even fucking out this year

>>84095882
Dave and Karkat had flirting?

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>>84095907
They had innuendo in huge piles. Both Karkat and Dave commonly put references to various anatomy into their ranting and raving, get them together and you have wrestling and grabbing at each other's faces in a desperate fight between drawing a shipping grid featuring both of themselves, and a load of penises. I don't ship Davekat and I think it's near-canon inclusion was fucking stupid and terrible, but there was plenty of material in the comic to feed the initial shippers many years ago.

>>84095954
>a desperate fight between drawing a shipping grid featuring both of themselves
Yeah while disputing terezi

>>84094351
>>84094374

You missed the point of the message.
"YOU'RE ABUSING THAT COW"
"what? no, I changed the food. The stuff I was using was expensive."
"SEE? ABUSE! HOW DARE YOU!"
"look, it's my cow, I'm still looking after it, it's still healthy --"
"NO IT ISN'T"
"-- it's still healthy even if I'm not giving tours of my barn, and you've been happy with the milk I've been giving you for free --"
"YOU USED TO GIVE ME FREE MILK TWICE A DAY, now you're BULLYING ME by not giving me MILK FAST ENOUGH."
" (long sighing noise) "

sure, mr. all-caps is a strawman, but I know you know you've heard these complaints just like this..

>>84096013
If two people are dating the same third party, they have a relationship with each other. All three of them are "in a relationship" whether balls touch or not.

>>84094527

We got some GREAT porn out of it. Let's console ourselves with that.

>>84096029
Thats not how it works and they never ended dating her.

>>84096013
i want you to imagine an alternative situation where aradia and feferi physically fight over sollux and try to plan different sex times and end up somehow angrily drawing each others genitalia

this does not indicate the two are in love with each other or some shit. but if you are titillated by the idea of lesbians it would probably give you a boner. maybe you might go search for some pics or fics or them boning. thats literally all gay shippers were doing with davekat after penis ouija.

>>84096107
Aradia and feferi fighting over sollux is completely out of character.

>>84096124
thinking about it does give me a boner though

>>84096028
this might have applied during act 5 and maybe even early act 6

but the cow has been beaten to death and he just won't stop

>>84096132
Your boner is what killed homestuck.

>>84096152
my boner would never...

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>>84095850
> don't bite off more than you can chew
I prefer "aim for the stars, settle for the moon." or "he who dares, wins"
> don't set the ending in stone before you start
he had an ending in mind before he started, as anybody should. Doesn't look to me like it was set in stone.
> more doesn't mean better
quantity is a quality all it's own. from his formspring Q&A sessions, sounded like his mistake wasn't introducing all the extra cast members, but trying to give all of them depth.
> never trust hussie
I... have no defence here.

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>>84096124
being out-of-character never stopped the fanartists

>>84096217
fuck off andrew

>>84094053

Post-Scratch was a mistake.

>>84095584
i don't know if he's asking a riddle or having an existential crisis and screaming "what am i!?"

i find it funnier to think it's the latter

>>84096217
>picture
That would have been fine if death actually meant something and if he didn't constantly undermine dramatic tension in other ways by constantly going back to that Alpha Timeline shit. Turns out doing anything other than listlessly lounging about for years dooms everything WHO KNEW?

>>84094053
the end.
no moral.

>>84094053
Don't ever try to be more than what you are, play exactly by the game/paradox space's rules, and stay out of the way of the people that actually matter.
Maybe you'll get your happy ending. Or not. Most likely not. Who cares?

>>84096673
>play by paradox space's rules
those rules are hidden, so you don't even know what you're supposed to do right

FUCKING VRISKA STOP RUINING MY FUCKING COMIC REEEEEEEEEEE

>>84096107
Two female characters being in frame at the same time would give me a boner, but I wouldn't rationalize it as confirming that they are fucking in any place other than my mind.

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>>84096820
Act 5 Vriska was one of the best characters of all time

Act 6 Vriska isn't even really Vriska, she's just a symbol of Hussie's adderall overdose

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>>84094142
>>84094178

>>84097133
Yes
Give me more

Anyone got fanart of our Princess of Light?

>TFW I thought Castle was a new track by Buzinkai
>It's been on his SoundCloud for 4 months
Damn. I wish the guy made more new music, his stuff is just incredible. Even after all this time I'm still head over heels for Explore.

Total scrub here, how do i program an walkaround? Is there any uncompiled flash of homestuck to start?

homestuck is really, really, really bad

I read the entire thing, and I regret every minute

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>>84097173
I just have ambigiously innocent Joey

If you want you can pretend that she just murdered a fuckton of limebloods

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>>84097173
There was this from last night, when we had a... collaboration.

>>84097227
>Uncompiled flashes
Dunno. But there are plenty of resources for learning ActionScript around the web.
If you're feeling lost you could always try and get in touch with the people who made code for Homestuck's walkarounds - or, failing that, the guy who made Prequel's.

>>84097290
dat fang

>>84094053
No matter what you do, you're always gonna be gay.

also hail vriska

>>84094539
Lots of people cite this as the panel that got them hooked, which makes total sense because it established that Hussie was capable of writing in a literary register and therefore we could expect a lot of variety out of the story.

But it also hinted at the mythology underlying the main narrative. There were other Act 1-4 plot elements that Hussie never followed up on, too, like the Ultimate Riddle, which seems to be directly connected to this passage. Why wasn't that the focus of late Act 6 and Act 7? You introduce something that's literally called "The Ultimate Riddle," develop tons of themes that could easily be related throughout the story, and then drop the ball that hard at the end? When we learned about LE later on, it seemed to me that he was a continuation of this plot thread, but in the end he turned out to be a strong gay cloun alien that wanted to kill his sister, not a force of nature or manifestation of entropy or anything interesting.

>>84097227
>>84097301
the code for meenahquest is open source
it's probably not a great place for beginners to start but here it is
https://github.com/WhatPumpkin/Openbound

>>84097423
the ultimate riddle was pretty obviously a running joke

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hi guys
i'm taking some requests again, example shown at the left
but i'll begin doing them only in 5-6 hours from now so be patient pls

>>84097510
Vriska kicking Karkat in the balls

>>84097423
>>84097476
why did hussie never show us jegus and gog? why did jade never fuckass on screen? whats the point of getting us to invest in these huge aspects of the lore and then just dropping them?

So like.....

There is a bunch of shit the bothers me in Homestuck, but one of the things that i've been thinking about is what is the point of the Sburb/sgurb game? I know in the end it is to create a new universe but its like, who made the game? why does it cause the end of the players homeworld? How come not all players need to meet their deizens? theres more questions but seriously what was the purpose of this game?

>>84097558
what is the purpose of life? if universes are frogs, then they just reproduce like regular frogs.

>>84097423

Developing LE/Caliborn was such a mistake.

I've been rewatching the old flashes. The sense of wondrous adventure they convey is so bittersweet, given the near-complete absence of the same in A6 onward. It just hurts.

>>84097510
John wearing his wizard hat next to roxy, who is wearing hers and is casting a spell

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>>84096107
but arafef is my otp...

>>84097456
>javascript
>realize andrew couldnt flash because of the kickstarter
Dont think this will help but thanks anyway.

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>>84097510
Nepeta in the Disciple's outfit

>>84097558
Universes (Genesis Frogs) all die eventually. Reality (Paradox Space) "wants" to keep existing, and for that purpose universes all come with universe-creating magic that will let them reproduces (SBURB).

Paradox Space contains Horrorterrors and various iterations of Skaia. Whether they are brought there/created by the game, or natural inhabitants, I forgot. Maybe we don't know.

Skaia wants new universes, H.T.s don't. The game itself, with its players and bosses, is a bargain between the two parties: if the players win, Skaia wins, otherwise the Horrorterrors win.
I'm not sure how involved Skaia and the HTs are. Whether they're disputing a chess match and moving the pieces themselves, or stepping back to let the game take its course (like a particularly elaborate bet), I'm not sure.

Questions like "who made the game" only lead to either more questions in the vein of "who made God?" (like "where do those guys who made the game come from?") or causality loop bullshit. You don't need to know the exact origins of SBURB to enjoy the setting.

>>84097827
>"who made God?"
andrew's god, and lord english is the demiurge/creator. thats made pretty clear by all the gnostic stuff.

>>84097896
would've been a lot clearer if we had actually seen lord english do anything resembling creation
or anything at all, really

>>84097964
a fair few people think that caliborn's reward for beating his session was creating the comic itself in the form of the juju. he was working up to it with all the art stuff. i think its the most reasonable assessment of hussie's intentions although it wasn't very explicit.

>>84097262
Joey: ''time to kill the gays with this light!''

>>84098073
what if that was a subplot
joey is anti-gay and racist but by the end of hiveswap she is full of troll cum from both genders (after she had earned their respect by eliminating an entire caste of course)

>>84098104
Her actual plan is to make all males straight and all females gay. She is gonna cuck Jude hard once she gets her hands on Trizza

Plot of Hiveswap

Joey: becomes more spunky but loving. Finds female love interest

Jude: gets gay with moose troll and gains confidence, once moose troll leaves becomes gay rights activist

Trizza: antagonist of first half, ally of second. Sacrifices herself at end of game to make room for the next heiress (feferi)

Red troll: gains confidence and admits feelings to moose troll at end of game

Moose troll: learns _____ after initially being swamped and labeled as the "cool kid" on earth. goes back gay.

>>84098231
trizza and cridea fall in love and joey brings them back to earth to make gay memes on tumblr and live happily ever after

>>84098231
But Joey is gonna build the biggest harem in two universes! She IS after all John's and Jade's half-sister.

Joey ''cum in my face or death to your race'' Claire can't be stopped.

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WHO IS PARADOX SPACE'S AWESOMEST EVIL DOER

>>84098292
Jack!

>>84098292
Jude Harley. Nobody ever expects four-eyed nerds to be psychopaths

>>84097896
>andrew's god
really? i thought it was pretty clear that skaia was the true god/monad, going by the gnostic model

>>84098277
Joey "I Have To Redeem Homestuck So I Have Every Fetish" Claire

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Joey Trizza is literally fujoshit but with girls

Shipping the MC with the Antagonist because fighting against each other is obviously a sign of love

>>84098385
Joey "I Ain't Gotta Do Shit 'Cause I Already Got Two Point Five Million Dollars" Claire

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>>84097754

>>84098410
>Implying the Princess of Light would settle down with only 1 person.
You see her brother and beta-Roxy? They were her bitches. You see those trolls in Hiveswap? They are her goal.

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>>84098449
Joey "Investigate Andrew Hussie for Monetary Embezzlement" Claire

>>84098463
Fuck, that's so good anon

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is this the face trizza makes when joey eats her out?

i mean come on guys

black rom

of fucking course trizza was going to fall in love with joey

>>84096028
>You missed the point of the message.
We're doubting it, not missing it.

>sure, mr. all-caps is a strawman, but I know you know you've heard these complaints just like this..
They're only "like this" in the sense that they're complaints. That's the only aspect of them that the message addresses, and it tries to categorically dismiss them by saying "it's my story not yours". Everyone knows he's the one writing the story; we criticize it because the writing is flawed.

This sort of argument is essentially the same as an obnoxious jackass who uses "free speech" to silence (lol irony) anyone who calls him out on how much of a jerk he is. Instead of actually defending their actions, they invoke a principle that invalidates criticism on a categorical level, thereby leaving the actual points unaddressed and the bad behavior unjustified.

>>84098327
all authors are literal gods of their own works, though its usually considered faux pas to acknowledge it. skaia might make universes but andrew made skaia, horrorterrors, the green sun, and everything they made too. Or at least, he thought of it all, and then caliborn and yaldabaoth made it 'real' from the perspective of the characters.

>>84098527
i bet she tastes fishy

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>>84098463
Oh yeah, that's the stuff.

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Was this Hussie's top bantz?

>>84098463
no this is ikimaru
do not steal art
thats bad

>>84098825

>"your son fucking disgusts me"

>>84098851
And above all: don't steal bad art.

>>84098693
sure he actually made all that stuff, but his self-insert is just a storyteller in-universe. that's why he makes a huge deal about the yellow yard thing being the only change he makes to the actual events of the comic. he's more of a prophet than a god, and homestuck is his prophecy. meanwhile, skaia fits the bill for being the true god with its ultra-passive "seeing and knowing" shtick. that's why yaldabaoth was designed with the light symbol for a face: he's a powerful (yet flawed and monstrous) imitation of a purer ideal.

we never really saw English do anything author-like
he can't be the demiurge because his existence is as mundane as any other character the comic
if anything John is the demiurge to Hussie's self-insert

>>84096673
>>84096687
That's why Caliborn got the best ending. Didn't ask questions, did everything he was supposed to, and gets rewarded by turning into a big dick immortal muscleskeleton.

>>84098825
>i wonder what he will think when he discovers me kissing his corpse

ah... old hussie. those were the days

>>84097558
>what is the point of the Sburb/sgurb game? I know in the end it is to create a new universe but its like, who made the game?
There are many answers to that question.

Sburb is based on data contained from the Frog Temple – which is itself a game construct, forming a causal loop.

It's also a wager between Skaia and the Horrorterrors, for the right to create a universe – but Skaia is also a game construct, which makes that another loop.

It's the natural reproductive cycle of a Genesis Frog – but they all exist within Sburb sessions, which makes that another loop, unless they existed in some other environment beforehand.

Ultimately, Sburb itself might have no "true" point of origin; it, and the universes that create it, may exist entirely as self-initiating time loops. Paradox Space is full of things like that.

>why does it cause the end of the players homeworld?
One could blame the Noble Circle of Horrorterrors for that. As mentioned before, every session of the game is a wager between the forces of Creation (Skaia) and Destruction (the Horrorterrors) for the right to create a new universe, using a series of proxies such as the Armies of Light and Darkness, the Players, and the Denizens. The outer gods of the Furthest Ring are opposed to orderly existence and creation.

This is important to remember when asking why Sburb is the way it is. While it's never stated outright, it's likely that the extinction of a species is a price that Destruction demands of Creation as part of each session. It's worth noting that the Trolls's interstellar civilization could have survived the death of their host planet, were it not for the Vast Glub emitted by Gl'bgolyb, an "emissary to the Horrorterrors".

>How come not all players need to meet their deizens?
That's simply because the game is highly flexible. In most cases, game feature X exists to achieve result Y, but that doesn't mean that Y necessarily happens, or that X can't achieve a totally different result.

>>84098851
>>84098495

I thought ikimaru was well known enough that I didn't have to say I didn't draw this. Apparently I was wrong.

I didn't draw this. But seeing your request reminded me of this piece, so I posted it for you.

>>84099023
homestuck's moral is no matter how hard you try, you are still subject to vriska's 8IG
FUTA
8ULGE

>>84099018
calliope has tons of parallels with sophia too though. her weakness and desire to be closer to gods work is what leads to the creation of the demiurge. that comes about cos of a solo session. she ends the comic and the demiurge when the kids ascend to pleroma/universe C. theres more but just wikipedia this shit i need to go out.

>>84099098
>How come not all players need to meet their deizens?
Don't they have to, though? I thought denizens guarded the grist hoard for the ultimate alchemy. The only reason the kids all didn't meet their denizen was because their session was severely fucked. It's assumed all the trolls killed their. (In fact, I think the only kid who didn't have an encounter with their denizen was: you guessed it, Rose)

sOMEBODY ONCE TOLD ME,

>>84099594
none of the alphas were described to have done except roxy

>>84099672
I meant "kids" as in the beta kids. The alpha kids are a special exception too because their session was infertile anyway.

>>84099608
t-tHAT THE WORLD, wAS GOING TO ROLL ME.
aND THEN, sHE KNOCKED MY FOUR-WHEELED DEVICE OVER, aND LAUGHED AT ME.
sHE SAID i, COULDNT ROLL ANYMORE.

>>84099697
arquius still managed to get a huge grist hoard outta their planets

>>84094053
Growing up sucks, nothing means anything, assholes always get what they want.

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>>84099747

>>84099789
sO WHEN SHE, dID THAT, sHE LEFT ME ON THE FLOOR, aND I HAD TO GET BACK ON MY FOUR-WHEELED ROLLING DEVICE
bUT THE, oNLY WAY TO GET TO IT WAS TO ROLL.
i, DONT THINK, sHE LIKED THAT.
bECAUSE SHE KICKED ME IN THE FACE, aND SAID i, WASNT FUNNY.
bUT i, tHOUGHT IT WAS FUNNY, iN AN IRONICAL SORT, oF WAY.

>>84099877
is dave getting upset at dirk hussie's dig at the readers getting upset at vriska's treatment of tavros?

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>it's a "Tavros complains about his hot yandere loyal waifu" episode

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>>84099877

if you're trying to RP tavros you need to GET YOUR COMMAS RIGHT

now hand over your badge

>>84099956
fUU,,UUCK,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, oFF,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

>>84099956
84DG3 7H15
((mituna pulls out his dick

>>84099995
*dicks

>>84099904
dave describing bro as some psychopath with no regard for his feelings who intentionally fucked with him and only seemed to care about his puppets must have had at least some self aware element to it

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Why is Act 5 Vriska so great?

Why is Act 6 Vriska so shit?

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>>84100032
act 5: waifu
act 6: plot device

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>>84100032
Other people react to her correctly in Act 5.
Act 6 they're all just like pic related

What if Hiveswap ends with like an S:Wake tier flash

>>84100032
I'M N8 SHIT!!!!!!!!
ST8P IT!!!!!!!!

>>84100124
hahaha real funny how you murdered me for trying to save the world vriska you big old kidder

>>84100032
>>84100087
>>84100124
CAN YOU PLEASE STOP POSTING THIS WHORE?

THANK YOU.

>>84094053
Take the elevator.

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>>84100154
We post her because we're all black for her

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>>84099904
Y'know, if it had been any other character playing Vriska's role, I'm sure Hussie would have had Tavros comment on what he went through, accurately call it abuse, wonder why no one ever did anything to help, and finally hint at how he's learning to move on, despite the damage it did. Or something like that.

But it was Vriska, and in Act 6 no character is allowed to criticize Vriska without changing their mind an hour later, so eh.

>>84094247
Whenever I try to recap Homestuck for someone, I feel like Lie Bot there.

>>84100173
the proof that andrew is a genius is that he can make us feel fictional feelings

>>84094420
Without memeing, this.

>>84100208
But what about the best ship?

http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004687

Fuck you guys for making me decide to go back and rewatch all the great old Act 1-Act 5 flashes. This is so depressing.

>>84100306
>http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004687

I have Nightfall for Johnvris, bro

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why was droog wearing cat-ears here? Was it ever explained?

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"So, what may be the true powers of God-tier blood players dawned on me, today.

Basically, they're support characters. Think about Karkat when they started their session, he was meant to be their leader. Blood players are like battle captains. They rally troops and buff their allies using their god tier powers. Karkat's quest to rally the crabs and make them face their fears and navigate the red waters of his land plays into this, but since he thought the game was mocking him, he let his insecurities about his blood color get in the way of his quest. He didn't realize his power was leadership because he cheated and had Tavros commune with the crabs."

what fucking fanfiction is he talking about?

>>84100450
Carapace outfits are based off of the prototypings. I thought that was very apparent.

PM's outfit would not have been as colorful if the harlequin wasn't prototyped. All the prospitians would wear white, and the dersites would wear black.

>>84100472
Is that BKEW or Classpect Anon, I can't tell. Are we still pretending they are different people? They both make up garbage "extrapolated" from single examples.

>>84100472
The webcomic known as Homestuck

>>84100472
>rally the crabs and make them face their fears and navigate the red waters of his land
what

>>84100529
BKEW is pretty possibly in a psychiatric ward right now. The end of Homestuck hit him really hard. Classpect Anon is one of his followers, possibly.

>>84100509
oh alright. I knew outfits were affected by prototypings but i only really ever noticed the harlequin prototypings. Are there any instances of dave or jade's sprites affecting clothing?

>>84100529
bkew is still having a fit over the ending. check out his tumblr he couldnt listen to vol 10 cos looking at the cover art made him cry. classpergernon doesnt try to pretend his stuff isnt fanfiction anyway so hes doing a helluva lot better.

>>84100529
if you mean garbage extrapolated by multiple examples, then yes, I do.

and no, i'm not BKEW. i'm much beardier and slightly less autistic.

i don't even like him very much. there are other classpect theorizers that i respect their opinions more. blew is like a spastic almost.

>>84100032
Act 5 Vriska is a character, Act 6 Vriska is a meme.
Just like how Gamzee went from legit threatening clown madman to immortal background joke.

>>84100472
Isn't this just Classpect anon theorizing about Karkat's quest?

>>84100397

Homestuck Theory

>>84100612
>Karkat's quest to rally the crabs and make them face their fears and navigate the red waters of his land plays into this

his use of present tense makes me think he's talking about something that already exists

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>>84100472
>Blood
>not cuckolding and getting fucked over by Andrew Hussie

>>84100612
i never said this >>84100472
because it's clearly fanon, given that we don't know karkat's consorts or his quest. if i said something THIS presumptuous, feel free to assume i've gone off-er the deep end then i already am.

>>84100638
rachel said it's leadership and vitality

>>84100669
rachel can go suck my fucking dick called davekat

>>84100627
did you make that thread? I think you're confusing a fanfic with canon

link me to it because we barely have any sburbfics with the canon characters

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>>84100627
>two homestuck threads
it's almost like you guys want to piss /co/ off

>>84100721
what are you talking about
this isn't a general, we can have multiple threads about different topics

>>84100645
I assumed it was present tense in the "X character's quest is this..." theory way.
But you aren't the kind to theorize about Blood, so, yeah.

>>84100734
Yeah but we don't have a large enough fanbase to have more than one meaningful thread

>>84100828
no one does
look at any popular topic on any board, the threads always coalesce into one giant general discussion thread and then a bunch of tiny orbital threads that might become the "main" thread after the current one falls off the board

>>84100809
whoever this is stop

Why is roleplaying in these threads becoming more common? Have some shame, people

>>84100721
This

>>84100734
>>84100914
Multiple threads don't result in the multiples getting deleted, it results in the mods getting pissed off and the mods deleting ALL homestuck threads for the next few hours

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>>84100920
it's -ironic-

>>84100914
It's a conspirancy to get mods to extinct /hst/.

>>84100529
>>84100547

Reading is Tumblr now and its literally just walls of texts explaining how transcendentally butthurt he is and desperately holding onto some sort of upcoming explanation or proof of his "inversion" theory in the epilogue. Pretty satisfying to see given how smug and self-assured he always was with his ridiculous baseless theories, even after vapidtruth BTFO him herself. I can't imagine how obsessed you must be with Homestuck not to have seen that it was a sinking ship years ago and held on to the bitter end. Guy must be devastated he devoted years to a webcomic only to have it all be shat on by Hussie Zahack.

>>84100933
>>84100962
dont worry, i made a thread addressing the issue
>>84101016

what does the rage aspect mean?

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What will happen to our new Queen?

>>84101058
means u scary
oooh

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>>84100933
This is stupid. Can't wait for pissed janitors to start rage purging all HS threads

>>84101059
Trizza dindu nuffin...

>>84101023
That's not even unique to him though. EleanorPam has also been hit pretty hard. It sent her into a spiraling depression.

And it's also made Ikimaru borderline regret investing so much time into reading and drawing it.

>>84101058
spectra of negative emotions, rage included, single-minded zealotry to a cause, and disbelief

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Friendly reminder that Latula is the only troll who would love someone who goes on 4chan

>>84101099
wheres the fang?

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>>84101182
Here's the fang

>>84101159
Since John could transform into wind by being an Heir of Breath what do you think an Heir of Rage would be able to transform into?

>>84101219
i always knew she was a rainbow drinker

>>84101241
lown

>>84101176
why is latula the only good-natured and sympathetic dancestor
is it because she has to compensate for how shitty terezi is

>>84101241
i don't think every heir has access to some sort of elemental transformation, so i would say that the heir of rage's alternate state would be some sort of berserker fugue, but if we had to say something, it would probably be whatever the enemy is scared of the most

>>84101241
An army of tumblrinas.

>>84101219
Ay, you ever finish that dersecest?

>>84101241
A ball of teenage angst

>>84101260
i always liked it because it leaves room for shit like heir of space being able to change their own size antman style or heirs of time having doze/itchy powers
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

That one McElroy brother who laughs like he's being tazed to death

I hear this shit in my head when I try to sleep

>>84101176
sollux is 4chan as fuck so you can add aradia and feferi to that list.

Brace for impact

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>>84101284
nah i have shitty sketches right now, gonna do some warmups before i get back into that

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>>84101241
purple glowy shit?

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>>84101474
>that dave
wew lass

>>84101443
if that one troll 4chan fic is anything to go by then aradia uses it herself

>That bit in S: Karkat Wake Up where you switch to Vriska
>Her theme plays loudly in the background as you walk around being a fucking asshole

Back when she was the Bakura of Homestuck and not the fucking Yugi

AR is actually fucking fun to erp as. hes dom as fuck and its totally in character

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>>84101474

Can't wait to see this done.

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>>84101563
i always liked that part because, unlike act 6, everybody hated you.

They either told you to fuck off or to please leave because you're scaring me.

>>84101563
really? I would've thought her more like Kaiba, he was a huge dick whereas Bakura was just straight up evil

>>84101622
Auto Responder or Aimless Renegade?

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>>84101622
boy what the fuck is with you

>>84101622
...authority regulator or dirkbot?
log?

>>84101661
>>84101669
>Implying anyone would ever chose AR over AR

>>84101669
AR. not posting log. i was getting a jane to tell me all about her dirty dreams under the guise of helping her, and then 'pranking' dirk with her by clinically describing him masturbating to some weird gay shit while she does too. it was pretty fucked up and fun

>>84101649
Yeah, you felt like a real fucking scumbag who everyone was afraid of

>>84101766
sounds terrible.
neck you'reself mate.

>>84101746
Clearly AR is the superior choice. You just have shit taste anon.

>>84101798
AR? More like GAY-R amirite
AR would fucking destroy him

>>84101792
obviously our incredible writing skill carried it through

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>be me
>go to google images
>google "ar homestuck"
>mostly aimless renegade
>google "ar homestuck sexy"
>it's entirely humanized autoresponder
This crime will not go unpunished.

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>>84101987
Also: AR image dump

>>84097290
Guess which panel was done by the pro!

HINT:
>It doesn't feature Dante from the Devil May Cry series

>>84101987
by far the worst exile

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>>84102013

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>2.4 million dollars

>>84102022
>being this fucking mad your shitty panel didn't make it in

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>>84102029
>Having an opinion this bad
>>84102031

>>84102049
it's pretty fucking stupid liveblogger's got in, it doesn't even have any elements from the original.

>>84102070
and an aside note, it's pretty fucking stupid that liveblogger namefags despite not contributing anything other than having read the comic and talked about it (wow, it's almost like we've all done that here!)

>>84102029
shut the fuck up neanderthal, shut the fucking hell up, go to fucking hell

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>>84102063

>>84102082
she talks dirty to us shes a valuable member of the community

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Working with photos is by far the worst part of making the models so far
It trumps all of the difficulties I've had with printing and modelling so far because I have NO idea how to fix the issues that I have

>>84102029
DELET

>>84102049
Nah, it's cool, I did the tentabulge panel.

>>84102142
what do you mean

>>84101649
>>84101791
Yeah even Nepeta tells you to fuck off in that part

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>>84102105

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>>84102029

>>84102164
Photos are blurry, or dark, or don't show detail, etc. . Overall just a nightmare, because I just don't have much experience with photography and the issues I run into I have to fix by trial-and-error.

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>tfw no one has any issues with your panel even though its got vriska and afros and is objectively drawn worse than the one that got rejected

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>>84102168

>>84102202
good luck modeller-kun

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>>84102221

>>84102217
we missed an opportunity by not doing a caliborn style straight line panel

But can we all agree that Pages of Time get to use ZA WAURDO?

(Also the DIU full main theme just dropped, it's hype as fuck).

It'll go great with my Gravity is Unfaltering AU that I'm working on.

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>>84102274

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This is the best photo I could get for now. If anybody's got any experience with photography, I'd love some advice. I'm going to try a darker background later today, white-on-white doesn't seem like the greatest idea to me.

>>84102274
Oh man, this picture is as old as the Earth itself. I always found it weird how Droog had a little nose.
Definitely still great, though.

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>>84102297

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>>84102323

>>84102306
whys a2 prospit in the background if its so old

>>84102347
What? It's just prospit.

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YOU HAVE TEN SECONDS

TO FIX KARKAT AND HIS ARC

OR ARADIA FUCKING GETS IT

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>>84102341

>>84102364

Do it faggot, nobody cares about Aradia.

>>84101987
Someone here once asked for "sexy AR" as an art request and the artist drew them a fucking humanized Auto-Responder. I'm still laughing and crying.

>>84102361
it looks like its got the hole jack english blew outta it

>>84102364
Make him have to kill Dave to steal Caledfwlch from him and destroy Lord English, because Dave is too into his feelings to do it himself.

>>84102364
REMOVE KARKAT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocW3fBqPQkU

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>>84102387
Damn, I feel bad for them. Did they demand a new commission, or did they just silently accept that they fucked up?
>>84102376

>>84102389
It's the shading

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>>84102464

>>84102364
Karkat confronts Gamzee while Equius gets the drop on him. Therefore Karkat exploits his role as leader and exploits his relationship with gamzee to kill gamzee.

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>>84102500

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>>84102548

>>84101987
>>84102387
Wait, how do you humanize a robot voice, let alone make it sexy?

>>84102513
Or Karkat orders Equius to fuck Terezi. There Karkat exploits his role as cuckold and his relationship with Terezi.

>>84102576
literally google. human hals have been around as long as hal

>>84102582
Either way character arc fixed.

>>84102301
damn that looks like something outta portal
i like it

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>>84095858
NOPE, NO SIR!
NO JOHNROSE TEASING IN THIS COMIC

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>>84102576
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un6QDwO5cec
from this flash

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>>84102301
You should try setting something like pic related up. The prints are small enough that a cardboard light box should be fine. I'd recommend using a black fabric/paper as the backdrop instead.

Google DIY light box, you'll get a load of tutorials. Also try to get a direct light on it and then adjust levels/curves in photoshop.

>>84102623
>that shit audio
here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD-ySz-Vtcc

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>>84102364
ARADIA
NOOOOOO

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quick leonot sketch

>>84102364
>"fucking"
>"""gets it"""
i see no problem with this

>>84102364
If we REALLY have to have a retcon, then post-retcon Karkat meets his burned, mutilated pre-retcon self in the dreambubbles. They talk about deep FEELINGS AND SHIT, and Karkat begins resolving some of his self loathing.

>>84102196
No but the poster is right wv isnt a real mayor he just wants to be one and his "town" is just some cans

>>84102623
i still think its fucking cool that le's sarswapagus in caliborn: enter has the hal eyes. its one of the few times you can know a twist was always coming.

>>84102701
i-is his cock barbed

>>84102732
no!

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>>84102745
YOU ARE THE SCUM OF THE EARTH

>>84102745
how dare you

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The Davepeta we should have gotten.

>>84102745
vwhos vwvw? do you mean me, the lovweliest guy evwer featured in homestuck?

>>84102785
what happens when davepeta masturbates
is it possible for him to rape herself?

So why does everyone think Trizza is going to fall in love with Joey?

>>84102847
literally who thinks this?

>>84102864
Tumblr, reddit, 4chan, facepunch, Bill Bolin, Rufio

Just read problem sleuth