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/doag/ Dumbing of Age General: "Yell At Children for Being

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Yeah, you tell that kid! He definitely deserved to be yelled at for the sake of humor!

But in all seriousness, we need to get our betting on for how horrible this will go. The fact that they're already getting into a bad moon this early can't bode well.

And how would Willis feel if someone yelled those things at his children?
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>>83875510

Why would Marcus not stop and say hi?
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>>83875599
I assumed it was because he was a small child who saw something or someone else more interesting. Or he's playing tag or some other game.

He also might not remember them because children often have terrible memories.
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>>83875510
>we need to get our betting on for how horrible this will go

We've been doing that for years, I think it's time to stop.

It'll never, ever get better than this strip, it's all downhill from here.
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>>83876277
>tfw when this happened to me, but she was gay and I'm not
Fuck
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where's the thicc
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>>83876342
Well how often do gay stories end with the gay getting rejected instead of converting the previously straight?

Not often

Spinnerette
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>>83876277
The thing about DoA, is whenever I think it's gotten to it's absolute lowest point in quality, that there's no way the writing could get any worse or the characters could get anymore obnoxious and unlikable, Willis proves me wrong.

>>83876467
>Implying Becky isn't going to eventually rape the straight out of Joyce.
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>>83875510
Where's the patreon strip?
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Joyce's anger is starting to get annoying.

I feel bad for her, sure, but I feel she's misdirecting it.
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>>83875510
>And how would Willis feel if someone yelled those things at his children?
Can we get an edit with one of his kids' names?
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>>83875510
>And how would Willis feel if someone yelled those things at his children?
They deserve abuse for being the products of an evil hetero-normative relationship.
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Am I the only one who thinks Becky looks good in a dress?
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>>83876779
If you mean that dress specifically, then yeah, you probably are.

I think Becky could look good in a dress, but not a pink one.
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>>83876424
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>>83875510
>But in all seriousness, we need to get our betting on for how horrible this will go.
Well it's Becky so there's a 150% chance she'll stand up to declare she's a lesbian.
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>>83876397
comin' up
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>>83877099
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>>83876779
>Becky
>looks good

Choose one.
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>>83875510
Have anyone of you guys noticed how Marcus looks like a kid version of the Rapist?
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>>83878295
Sameface. Or he's his younger brother. Either way.
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>>83878295
Marcus is a child of rape and he and his mother are very sensitive about the subject.
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>>83878419
>post yfw Rapist shows up in Church and Joyce loses her shit

I mean... it was only like a week ago, right?
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>>83878462
>Rapist shows up in Church and Joyce loses her shit

It's either this or Becky storming the podium.

Both at once would be a beautiful trainwreck
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>>83878462
I don't think an out and out brawl in church as the climax of this arc would be too much to ask for.
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>>83876277
Didn't that strip happen like a few weeks ago in canon? How can Joyce and Becky have gotten over it and gone back to BFFs in such a short time?
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>>83878295
I don't even know is who is this damn comic half the time. The fragmented, unfocused storyline naturally doesn't help.

Where are the fundie blonde and the lesbian ginger going now?
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>>83878928
I think it's only been one week, one and a half, tops.
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>>83878928
About two weeks, three max. Toedad happened less than a week ago.
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>>83875510
>And how would Willis feel if someone yelled those things at his children?
Unless they're being homeschooled I say wait a few years and find out.
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>>83876483
>Implying Becky isn't going to eventually rape the straight out of Joyce.
>it will be played for humor
>"Oh that Becky, going around raping her friends! How quirky!"
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>>83879110
Even if they're being homeschooled.
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>>83879174
>The comments section will find it an empowering moment. "You go Becky! Assert your sexuality!"
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>>83878295
>>83878462
>the rapist
The what now? I only see these threads once in a while. Did Willis really do a plotline about rape?
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>>83879322
At the very beginning there was a party and a pastor's son roofied Joyce's drink.
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>>83879263
...but her sexuality has nothing at all to do with anything that happens in the strip.
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>>83878928
becky isnt actually over it, shes just pretending she is
that comes up every so often

and joyce is over it because rejecting someone isnt nearly as big a deal as being rejected and there isnt much for her to be "over". she didnt lose her friend, so she just kind of put it out of her mind.
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The so-called spoilers.
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>>83879738
Becky is sorta over it. Or at the very least her dating Dina is fulfilling enough that she isn't weird about it.
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Tch, dang! I had two strips ready and I've been waiting for a thread all day!

And right when I get out of the house I finally notice a new thread.

Meh, well, it'll stay alive right?
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>>83880009
Hmmm, well judging by the preview panels, most of this stuff happens...

Oh shit, joe's gonna fuck joyce.

OH SHIT! MY COMIC CALLED IT!
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>>83880009
>carlas parents dont love her
not gonna happen
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>>83878928
This is the problem with Willis' stupid ultracompressed timeline thing. Events that take hours in the comic take months worth of updates.

"Move-In Day" was September 2010. Almost six years ago.

But IIRC according to Willis it's been... about a month or two (I don't think we've hit Halloween yet).

So... ballpark there's about 2000 pages that means on average only about 20 minutes per page.


At that rate we should get to Christmas Break around October....... of 2033.
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>>83880187
>MY COMIC CALLED IT
everybody called it, fuck off
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>>83880009
>The fight is between Carla and Billie instead of Billie and Mary
Please God, let it be so. The fucking Carlafags and Billiefags on the forums would eat each other alive.
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>>83875510
Dykes aren't really people, so it shouldn't come as a surprise that they'd scream profanities at children.
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>>83880281
i figure itd be pretty one-sided actually
theres not gonna be any transphobia on billies part for the carla fans to get mad about, and even cerb already said shed be upset if carla dropped the ball re: ruth
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>>83880224
>At that rate we should get to Christmas Break around October....... of 2033.
>Willis will be 55 before his comic finishes the first half of the first school year

HA!
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>>83880311
joyce is straight
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>>83880364
Not for long.

$50 says she becomes a lesbian just to stick it to those who have a problem with Becky.
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>>83880344
>theres not gonna be any transphobia on billies part
Doesn't matter. The trannylovers on the forums will eviscerate Billie for saying anything negative towards Carla (because *any* negativity towards a trans person is apparently transphobic) and the Ruth/Billie shippers will blame Carla for destroying their ship.

We saw the starts of this the other day when Carla bailed on checking Ruth. The Billiefags were all dreading Ruth being hurt or leaving and being mad at Carla for not doing anything, and the Carlafags were all flipping out at them how she isn't responsible and they should stop transshaming her or whatever the word for it is.
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>>83880411
If you don't want to be lesbians with your lesbian best-friend-since-you-were-old-enough-to-know-what-friendship-is... chances are you're not a lesbian.
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>>83880459
If you seriously don't believe Becky/Joyce is the endgame, youre deluding yourself. Becky ALWAYS gets what she wants.
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>>83880431
>Carlafags were all flipping out at them how she isn't responsible and they should stop transshaming her or whatever the word for it is.
Do the people who think like this even go to school? Or any facility of education?
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>>83880526
willis says so himself. the universe will bend to reward her existance.
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>>83878986
Their old church. Joyce hoped seeing all their old friends would help her feel better. Most of her friends are probably at college with their new friends.
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>>83880254
When exactly? Because the storyline where they start dating started a month or two ago.
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>>83880526
>Implying Becky won't get Joyce while STILL being with Dina.
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>>83880224
Indiana University's semester starts the Monday of the last full week of August. Move-in days are usually several days before classes start. We're looking at it being halfway/three-quarters of the way through September.
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>>83880602
Unfortunately they don't just go to school, they're the majority.
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>>83880653
>July, 19, 2087
>Dumbing of Age, now published by Willis' kids finally starts the Summer Vacation arc.
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>>83880431
thats not actually true
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>>83880649
>Becky will drop Dina like a rock in favor of Joyce and it'll be treated as an okay thing to do because Becky.
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>>83875510
>Yeah, you tell that kid! He definitely deserved to be yelled at for the sake of humor!
Okay, you don't need to complain about every strip. You're starting to come off as a whiny tumblrite. "This is Age Privilege" or something like that.
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>>83880764
They're the majority of people who serve in the student government or write for the campus newspaper. That's visible but it's not the majority. Most students don't give two shits.
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>>83880649
>Joyce is left feeling guilty and self-recriminating over her non-monogamous, lesbian relationship while Becky is too happy at the fulfillment of her lifelong desires to notice.
>As Joyce's melancholy reaches its nadir, she finds unexpected comfort and companionship with Dina, who uses her own experiences sorting out her feelings and desires within the context of the loneliness and disconnect of her autism spectrum disorder to help Joyce come to terms with her feelings and upbringing.
>Recognizing that she cannot hope to match the intimacy and connection between Dina and Joyce, Becky quietly excuses herself from the relationship, comforted in the knowledge that the women she loves have found true happiness even if it's not with her.
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>>83875510

is she wearing fingerless gloves? like a hobo?
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>>83880794
>The years of emotional abuse and torment compel Willis' children to waste their lives away completing his "great work" while sacrificing their own relationships and happiness to tell a story about college freshmen even though college was phased out in 2063 in favor of direct neural downloading.
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>>83881026
its a wrist brace
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>>83876467
It happens and has happened a lot.
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>>83880431
>Ruth/Billie shippers

How can those exist?

That relationship is blatantly toxic, wasn't that the point of it?
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>>83881203

don't have much experience with shipping?
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>>83881058
>completing his "great work"
doesn't Willis openly admit that DoA is being done purely for the money and the male tears?
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>>83880869
Nah.
The Dina fans would riot against Willis for mis-treating a mentally handicapped person.
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>>83880905
Horseshoe theory, brah
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>>83881303
no it's just money. he's very open about the fact he can write college drama without trying.

>http://itswalky.tumblr.com/post/73591298741/why-shortpacked-is-ending
>And so I thought to myself, okay, what kind of story can I write effortlessly without having to put my nose in the Internet and spend thousands of dollars on toys that should be buying my kid food instead? WELL, COLLEGE, OBVIOUSLY. Take all my characters, reboot them, and just write them forever, because I know I can. It’s my wheelhouse. I can write that on autopilot, blindfolded.
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>>83880905
But sarcasm is fun! Check your Humor Privilege.
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>>83881203
for billie, yeah, but it works out pretty great for ruth. billies actually done really well getting her to get her shit together, even though the idea was supposed to be a mutually destructive one.

and since the whole thing was billies idea its not easy to see her as a victim here either

people want it to work out
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>>83876467
I rejected a gay. But not only because I'n straight, but also because he was a douche and a psycho. He still can't move on. Maybe I'll write a comic book about it.
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>>83881203
it can't be toxic, they're lesbians.
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>>83881942
They're both bi.

And even so, it's par for the course: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_violence_in_lesbian_relationships

Oh, sorry, was I supposed to do a trigger warning with a kitten?
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>>83882219
the name of the article is already a warning, it says exactly whats gonna be in it
congrats, you did it
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>>83878462
And nobody called the police after the incident. Motherfucker got away scot-free.
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>>83882637
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>>83882637
>>83882656
actually decent strips for a change, congrats on that
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Why does Willis hate Mary and religion, again?

His Strawmanning in the past 1-2 weeks was kind of sad, and obsessive.
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>>83882767
>Why does Willis hate Mary and religion, again?
His upbringing. Blame his mom.
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>>83882767
Combination of self-hate/hate for his mom. This is a married man with twins and he just can't. get. over. the fact that his mom was mean to him.
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>>83882219
Don't make Willis ban you! how dare you suggest something like that.
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>>83882815
Yeah, and most of it sounds fake or so minor that it's ridiculous.

She made him a cake with Ultra-Car on it. Such a bad mother, caring about her son's characters like that.
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>>83882872
every time one of you mentions the cake story you distort it more and more. its virtually unrecognizable now.
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>>83882907
Was there more to it? I thought it was just that she made him a cake with Ultra-Car on it and he got all sarcastic about it.
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>>83880224
Comics are more about telling stories, not so much exactly mimicking the flow of time.
I mean if you try too hard to make everything fit chronologically ever few years you end up with DC's Clusterfuck of Crises.
Now if you want to complain about the plot, I'll leave you to it.
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>>83883014
dont know where you even got ultra-car from honestly.

he ran a super depressing and self-deprecating strip about himself in his school paper. his mom arranged to have that strip put on his cake.

he didnt even blame her for it, just said it was an awful thing to get on his birthday
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>>83882872
http://itswalky.tumblr.com/post/133847635397/i-dont-talk-to-my-mom-anymore-whenever-we-had

I mean, it sounds *KINDA* bad, but to spend this much time obsessing about it and devoting two webcomics and several "porn" comics to the purpose of passive-aggressively getting revenge on his mom is a little much.

Seriously, how has no one in his life brought up how obviously arrested his development is and how badly he needs therapy?
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>>83880009
>Joe shows up

Oh please and thank you; Joe is starting to become one of the most interesting characters in this comic.

Also the thought of Joyce getting close with the most stereotypically masculine character right in front of Becky is kind of glorious.
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>>83883127
>revenge
hes not getting revenge, she doesnt read it. this is all for himself.

cant say i really see the problem with that

>how badly he needs therapy
a therapist would most likely condone this
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I'd find it obligatory to repost this for a DoA thread. Who knows, maybe we'll notice a detail or two we missed before?
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>>83883027
I agree with your sentiment, but the way the plot works in the amount of time that has occurred... it doesn't coordinate with it very well.

Joyce has become someone completely different in just over a month.

In that time span, Amber's psyche has devolved from being a bit fragile to utterly broken. She went from occasionally putting herself in minor danger by beating people up to escalating to car chases and attacking Sal's group in the parking lot and everything else.

Billie and Ruth's relationship is like a Roman candle. It looks in the long run like it lasted a while, because it took place over the years for readers, but it hardly existed in-universe. And you can say the same for Dorothy and Danny.

Danny's also gotten broken up with twice in 5 weeks.

This isn't to say it's not possible for all of these things to happen, but all of these developments seem a bit forced when you read it together and not a strip a day.

>>83883233
No, this is just plain unhealthy. This has gone on for too long, and I don't think it's making him happy to do so.
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>>83883290
Mary is drinking some unholy black liquid.
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Ah, yes, what a tragic moment. To think this was only a few months ago, too. It's ridiculous.
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>>83883290
She probably got a view of Carla's dick in that second one.
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>>83883347
Maybe it's ink for a quill offscreen?
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>>83883233
He wrote about Amber's abusive father in Shortpacked!, having him ultimately die offpanel without any "big confrontation" and Amber deciding to move on with her life. It was mature and understated and that seemed to be the end of it.

Then Willis apparently decided that wasn't enough and had Amber face her abusive dad AGAIN in DoA, except now she's literally a fucking superhero punching the hell out of her kidnapping-the-love-interest supervillain father. This, coupled with Ross and Carol as the official "everything my mom ever said was EVIL!" characters, makes it seem like Willis is obsessed with his mom and working himself into more of a rage every time he thinks about her.

So, no, I don't think this is emotionally healthy.
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>>83883362
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Uh oh! It seems like Carla's planning something!
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>>83883314
>No, this is just plain unhealthy
dont really see how
storytelling in therapy is a pretty typical thing
http://blog.oup.com/2014/01/therapeutic-storytelling/

>I don't think it's making him happy to do so
he wouldnt do it if was making him unhappy. why do you think that because hes not laughing while talking about his past? of course hes not. that doesnt mean hes constantly miserable.

what exactly would you recommend, he never talk about it again? what do you think a therapist would tell him?
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Wait, Willis is 37? A father no less, and he's still acting this way?

I get that many people have a great deal of psychological fallout/repressed issues that they didn't have the emotional intelligence of maturity to address in their teens(and so they deal with it in their early 20s as they're trying to get their own life/goals in order)---but 37?

He might need a professional's(therapist/psychiatrist) help at one point. That's disconcerting.
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Poor Mary is getting a bit of a scare! What will she be able to do in order to prevent humiliation/murder???
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>>83883390
>had Amber face her abusive dad AGAIN in DoA
yeah, cause this is... a new story.

>obsessed with his mom and working himself into more of a rage every time he thinks about her
honestly dont know why you think that.
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>>83881448
What's weird about this is that he's also openly admitted to first being a hikikomori during college and then getting so hikiotastic that he flunked out.

So really, what the fuck does he know about college? Seriously? Is he saying *his other comic also about college* counts as experience?
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Seems like the RA is too hung-over to have agency! Mary just might be in serious danger here!

Unless...
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>>83883561
his one year of college counts as experience for the only year of doa hes ever going to write
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>>83883499
If it was working, then why is he constantly maiming parents in his comics?

His parent characters are getting more and more supervillainous, more strawman-y. They're all hateful bigots that are trapped in a world where people like them are incapable of being 3-dimensional and will always suffer for their beliefs.

I think he needs to talk about it like an adult. He needs to account for his parents being imperfect human beings and to view them from the lens of now being a parent himself.

His parents made choices he didn't like at the time. But were they that bad? And if so, why did his parents make those choices?

Everyone in life has a reason for doing something, and he is refusing to see them as actual human beings. He needs to think about them in real-world terms, not in the terms that he's created for his characters.
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>>83883290
What always gets me about these is it genuinely looks as though he's written Carl to be the bad guy and deserving of everything he gets.

And then...
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>>83883648
>why is he constantly maiming parents in his comics?
maybe hes just writing a story

>His parent characters are getting more and more supervillainous, more strawman-y.
a bad one

>refusing to see them as actual human beings
he talks about his parents as human beings all the time. his characters arent literally his mom and dad, theyre just influenced by them
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>>83883583
Oh, hey, a strip that we missed, probably during the time nobody bothered posting DoA threads.

>misplaced freak
Y'know, that could still be argued as Mary treating Carla as masculine and not necessarily outing them.
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>>83883692
Wow. This is some Multiversity shit right here.
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>>83884371
Yes, it was about a month in the making.
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>>83884492
Congratulations. You've officially made a Morrison out of a Miller.
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>>83884632
I don't know what that means, /co/'s not my main board.
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>>83884958

Grant Morrison writes complex trippy meta comics and your stuff reminded me of him. It's a compliment.
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>>83885026
Thanks, I played nothing but Undertale for 3 months after it came out
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>>83882593

I thought that he was beaten to death with a baseball bat.
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>>83885157
Beaten, yes. To death, no.
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>>83883127
>Whenever we had a difference of opinion, on, like, say, whether homosexuality is basically the same as pedophilia
But it is. Mom was right Willis, you can't help what you're attracted to. You shouldn't give her such a hard time for being a pedo.
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>>83875510
So we betting on if Marcus is Ryan's younger brother?
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>>83885997
I hope so! It couldn't get more dramatic than Ryan showing up at her church, where she said was the safest place she should think of.
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>>83883127
Keep in mind that WIllis is likely an unreliable narrator.
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>>83885997
>>83886041
It's amazing how it's been a month in comic time and Willis hasn't had him reappear. It's not like the college campus is the size of Manhattan.
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>>83885997
>>83886041
she would have known ryan already if he was a member of her community. i mean she clearly already knows marcus, why would she have just never seen his brother before (especially considering ryan is closer to her age)
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>>83886041
The big problem there is that Joyce's hometown, and thus the church, is several hours away from the University.
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>>83886175
For drama's sake, I would not be surprised if, whoopsie, Ryan's family decided to move to where Joyce lives, which is where his little cousin Marcus also lives. This also explains why Marcus ignored them--he was running to see his favorite cousin, Ryan.

It's more likely sameface syndrome, but Willis is all about contrived situations that make Joyce's life as miserable as possible.
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>>83886117
here's a quick timeline i didn't work very hard on
>attempted rape story line happened in 2011
>rape attempt next brought up a dream sequence in 2012
>next mention was in 2014 during the dick drawing story
>now the attempted rapist (the name is Ryan BTW) appeared in 2 comics this year as a hallucinations
probably not %100 accurate (i just looked at his tag on the site) but that's the basics
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>>83886476
and here's the other comic he was in this year
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>>83884492

Well worth it man

We'll protect her
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>>83880219
With Willis' hateboner for parents, I wouldn't be surprised.
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Had a weird dream that guy managed to break into Willis' buffer and started posting stuff, and Willis had a twitter breakdown.
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>>83886476
>>83886519
Honestly, that's kind of worse if in real-time he's not a constant presence in Joyce's mind.

Also, in regards to the second strip, does Willis have a thing for/against hands? You have Joyce grabbing her hand here, you have Amber stabbing Sal's hand... what other hand imagery is there in DoA?

Also also, why would Joyce have a fear of Ryan attacking her outside, in public? She should be more afraid of parties or closed gatherings in general. If not that, then at the very least she should be more afraid of being with other males if anything.

Y'know, if Willis were a better writer, he'd make a villainous character out of Becky by having her manipulate Joyce's fear of men in order to get into her pants or something.
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>>83886833
>Honestly, that's kind of worse if in real-time he's not a constant presence in Joyce's mind.
Yeah, it hasn't been that long, and she's coping surprisingly well, considering.
>Also, in regards to the second strip, does Willis have a thing for/against hands? You have Joyce grabbing her hand here, you have Amber stabbing Sal's hand... what other hand imagery is there in DoA?
One of his big things when advertising Ruth/Billie Slipshine was a panel of their hands interlocking.
>Also also, why would Joyce have a fear of Ryan attacking her outside, in public? She should be more afraid of parties or closed gatherings in general. If not that, then at the very least she should be more afraid of being with other males if anything.
She's only afraid when it's convenient for the story.
>Y'know, if Willis were a better writer, he'd make a villainous character out of Becky by having her manipulate Joyce's fear of men in order to get into her pants or something.
I would hardcore read that story.
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>>83883027

from lurking threads it seems the problem is the writer wants both a slice of life with real time elements to plot AND a sitcom style "It's always ________" setting so /co/ gets mad at the trying to have and eat his cake
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>>83886833
>Y'know, if Willis were a better writer, he'd make a villainous character out of Becky by having her manipulate Joyce's fear of men in order to get into her pants or something.

I can totally see this happening but presented as a positive thing.
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>>83886587
not every set of parents is bad. dorothy and dinas are nothing but supportive, sierras were nice the one time they appeared, and even joyces dad is alright, all things considered.

like dinas parents, carlas parents have constantly been implied to support her, and hes even said out of comic that theyre great parents whod do anything for her.
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>>83886949
>>83886833
I was going to say that doesn't seem far-fetched.
>All those have only hurt you. Why not give me a shot?
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>>83886982
It's possible that Carla only *thinks* they don't love her and has to learn that they do in their own way. But that would be too self-aware for Willis.
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>>83886949
>presented as a positive thing
why do people think this
even becky just kissing joyce without her consent was stated in comic to be a bad thing, and becky was the one who made the biggest deal out of what a fuck up it was.
its 100% obvious shes not going to do anything to joyce, and if she did she wouldnt be portrayed as a hero while doing it
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>>83886982
According to >>83880009, Carla's soon going to be angsting about how her parents don't really love her...despite the absurd amount of money, tech, and support for her transition they've given her so far.
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>>83887056
this is exactly the thing im already talking about, thanks for your input
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>>83887053
It'd be like Becky is "saving her from men" by turning her over to lesbianism, and this would be treated heroically by both Willis and his comment section.

I'm seriousm I would honestly be completely surprised if Joyce is still straight by the end of the comic's run.
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>>83887156
i think you should take a break from reading this comic
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>>83887053
Becky only felt like she screwed up because Joyce didn't feel the same. I never saw any indication of her feeling like she violated Joyce.
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>>83886833
>Also, in regards to the second strip, does Willis have a thing for/against hands?
in-comic Joyce grabs her hand because she cut herself when she smashed her glass against Ryan's face. as for the out-comic reason... i'm going to do something that's never before on 4chan and talk out of my ass here but i guess it's because Willis is an artist (of sorts) and, unless your name is Jeph Jacques, having something bad happened to your hands is pretty terrifying for that particular profession
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>>83886833
>>83886906
Joyce is experiencing acute stress reaction. She's not afraid to be outside, being alone while in the presence of strangers triggers a fight or flight response.
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>>83887401
That's fair. I forgot about that. I can't believe that was over a year ago.
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>>83887188
Yeah, probably.
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>>83887401
I wouldn't be bothered by the black dots on their faces if he actually lined them up with the curve he uses to denote the nasal bridge.
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>>83884237
Whoa.
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>>83885157
If he didn't die of a brain hemorrhage after the beating off-screen, then he is still alive and free. I wonder if he would still have bruising or bandages if he appears at the church.
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>>83886519
Did Joyce have a stroke in that last panel?
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>>83888407
He'd have fresh scarring on his face from the glass and maybe a chunk of hair missing if they needed to suture the back of his head. Anything worse and he'd probably still be in the hospital.
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>>83890326
AND BECKY!
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>>83890326
I'm pretty sure at this point Willis is just mocking us.
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>>83890326
>and becky
>and becky
>and becky
>and becky
>and becky
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>>83890326
If Willis had any self awareness, I'd swear this is almost self parody.
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>>83880224
theres been timeskips before; usually tiny ones, but once he skipped like 4 days. so if he needs time to advance, or nothing happens for a while, it could go faster.
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>>83890527
I hope that turns out to be Joyce and Becky talking about Pastor Powers
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>>83890527
And the exception to Willis' tendency to make fathers assholes begins to stir once more...
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>>83890527
>haircut
>shoving her identity in peoples faces

also
>joyces dad suddenly having a problem with this kind of speech
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>>83890527
Is this the patreon strip?

Also hilariously, they're actually being reasonable! Can't wait for a meltdown because they're 'evil'.
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>>83890527
To be fair, sidecuts are fucking awful and are usually a representation of the person trying to shove their personality in your face.
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>>83890669
>the one time becky doesnt mention her sexuality
>"having a haircut is shoving her identity in our faces"
>reasonable

its great that they feel sorry for her and dont at all condone her dads actions though, i assumed they would
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>>83890527
Becky? Shoving her sexuality into peoples' faces? How dare you say that.

Sidecuts are ugly too. Door people are right about everything

Is the first panel a dig against conservatives and guns? Does Willis think guns are reasonable pest control?
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>>83890669
>They're being reasonable.
...No? They're being assholes. How fuckin' sensitive do you have to be that a haircut is "Shoving it in our faces" ?
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>>83890776
It's a really shitty haircut, anon, I don't blame them
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>>83890527
>She keeps screaming "AND BECKY" at everyone she sees. Nobody needs that much of someone's obnoxious identity shoved in their face every 10 seconds.
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>>83890326
Shit strip
>>83890527
But my jimmies are rustled now fuck

Why are most Christians in this fucking comic awful? Fucking Willis.
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>>83890527
its also pretty hypocritical that theyre saying church shouldnt be about politics but theyre the only ones talking about it. all beckys done is say hi.
>keep it to yourself
whats she supposed to do, wear a wig?

...actually im surprised joyces mom didnt make her wear a hat. or is that rude in churches or something
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>>83890804
Joyce's mom has a straight up butch haircut.

>>83890774
To be fair, her parents live in a suburb. He'd probably get in trouble for discharging a firearm.
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>>83890776
Where do you think you are? People here get triggered over anhthing and everything.
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>>83891056
No, women wearing hats indoors isn't considered a violation of manners. Though hats in church are usually more of a black woman and rich Brit thing.
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>>83890527
>She used to be so beautiful

Funny, Becky's design is horrendous, even before the haircut. Her face always looks like it's about to peel off her head and that stupid grin makes her look like Donkey Kong
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>>83890883
I think women are allowed to wear hats indoors everywhere. It was considered rude for men to wear hats in any indoor setting, but most people don't care anymore. Church probably still applies but people probably won't bother pointing it out.
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>>83891064
Yeah, but it's an acceptable haircut.
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>>83891181
I thought she was cute, but new haircut and "look I'm a lesbian" ruined her
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>>83891056
>...actually im surprised joyces mom didnt make her wear a hat. or is that rude in churches or something
for women? no unless it's a baseball cap or something
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>>83891219
I remember all of the public schools I went to had very strict no hats indoors policies. They probably evolved from that tradition of men taking off hats indoors but were then applied to girls as well just to make things easier and more equal instead of applying the rule to just one gender and coming off uneven. And now we have today when I keep seeing people bitch about how dress codes are misogynist and designed only to shame women's bodies.
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>>83891181
My only complaint about Becky's current haircut is that one of her black, beady eyes and a freckle show through it.
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>>83890527
Looks like it's going the "Becky storms the podium" route after all.
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>>83890326
Why can't Becky die? Just drop dead?
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>>83891618
>wishing ill on the most popular and beloved character in all of webcomicdom
oh u
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>>83890527
Normally it would be kinda shitty to complain about someone's haircut as them shoving their identity in people's faces. But uh, Becky *does* shove her identity in people's faces and in her case the haircut is definitely part of that.

Like if you were to say, "Becky, it feels like your haircut is your way of letting everyone know you're a lesbian without you having to say so" she'd respond "Oh, it's working then, I'm glad! And also a lesbian!" Which is totally fine and cool*, but she's also created a visual indicator for bigots to latch onto.

*Kinda? A lot of the time it feels like she's doing what a lesbian should do, instead of it feeling like the things she's innately comfortable with read as lesbian.The strip where she talks about not liking the dress and getting super glue in her hair so she could cut it shorter is the first one where you get a sense of her having preferences that match up with a certain stereotype instead of her working towards a stereotype. A lot of that is because Willis sucks at writing, and although Becky's been in the comic a bunch, she's usually goofin'.

>>83890326
The pastors not referring to Becky (especially when she's the one initiating the greetings) bugs me more than the bigotry (mostly because I saw the congregation being bigots a mile away). It's a shitty thing to do. It also places their distaste for her identity so far ahead of any actual care they have for her, similar to how John's worry that Joyce is angrier replaced any concern for her well-being or safety.
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>>83891456

My school was super autistic about hats due to skin cancer in Australia. No hats during assembly or hymn practice or any sort of meeting, but you had to wear a hat at all times if you were going out in the sun.

We could use those rules to our advantage though. If you didn't feel like doing PE all you had to do was stuff your hat under your shirt and the teacher had no choice but to let you sit in the shade the whole lesson.
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>>83891733
>Becky *does* shove her identity in people's faces
but they dont know that, so this is stupid
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>>83890326
And Becky!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZSFvntwgEQ
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>>83891802
>And Becky!
>And Becky!
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>>83876467
>Well how often do gay stories end with the gay getting rejected instead of converting the previously straight?

Too often. The reverse only happened in Goldfinger.
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>>83891881
>not wanting people you know to blatantly ignore you
>shoving your identity in their face
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>>83876277
God what a presumptuous bitch.

No, she does not HAVE to feel the same way.
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>>83891962
>converting the straight.
This would acknowledge fluid sexuality and gay agenda must convince you that you're born a certain way and thats it.
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>>83892026
wow some of you are REALLY bad at not letting blind hatred cloud your judgement
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>>83892022
Ah, ya got me there. I was mostly joking around anyway.
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>>83892033
I read that wrong. Thought the anon had said that "gay person converts straight person" hasn't happened a lot.

It happens way too fucking much. I absolutely can't stand it.

>>83892112
Becky's obsession with Joyce isn't and will never be healthy.
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so the sermon is totally gonna be about gays right? is there any avoiding it?

& way to play into his hands by rolling with the judgement via hair thing
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>>83892026
I think it's more of a "glass shattering" moment for her. She'd built it up in her head so much that the truth seemed completely false for a moment there. It's a "grasping at straws" moment, where she's trying desperately to hold onto what she wants to believe.

I mean, she's definitely still presumptuous and generally a terrible person, but yeah.
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>>83892508
i dont think it will, everyone there seems really uncomfortable about that
its just gonna be really shitty and awkward
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>>83875510
imagine a comic about two girls who are nice and pleasant and laugh happily at the exuberance of a small child
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>>83892589
that sounds weird and unrealistic
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>>83892546
Maybe I'm heartless because I see this shit a lot. But I hate the thought that just because you're gay that it means people are inherently more sympathetic.

Imagine if this was just some friendzoned dude in Joyce's life saying all this stuff. Nobody would feel and pity and he'd be just a creep.

So I give Becky the same treatment.
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>>83892836
>just because you're gay that it means people are inherently more sympathetic
thats not even remotely what thats about

>Nobody would feel and pity and he'd be just a creep
that happens all the time in romance stories and people usually do feel sympathy for him actually
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>>83892976
People in comments were really rough on Danny for doing the exact same thing to Dorothy.
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>>83893040
he didnt do the exact same thing to dorothy

also people hated danny because he was a douchebag in roomies, not because hes a guy
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>>83893095
>Becky
>not a douchebag
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>>83893162
not at the time this happened, no
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>>83893162
>>83893198
but also thats literally what im talking about, with blind hatred clouding your judgement. the people talking shit about danny every time he opened his mouth were just as stupid and obnoxious as i think you are
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>>83892836
>friendzoned
That term is misogynistic. Please remove it from your vocabulary at once, or we'll need to send you in for reeducation. :^)
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>>83893382
i think its pretty funny that he used that term actually considering its a crystal clear example that most people do, actually, consider that kind of guy sympathetic
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>>83893568
Only when they identify with him. I maintain that if Becky were a guy people wouldn't have nearly as much sympathy.
>>83893256
What is my blind hatred clouding in my judgement? Tell me.
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>>83891618
http://itswalky.tumblr.com/post/133911326532/the-storylines-over-and-now-that-it-is-i-wanted
Becky is immortal.
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>>83893568
>most people do, actually, consider that kind of guy sympathetic
[citation needed]
In general, women don't. But then you don't think women are people, do you, misogynist?
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>>83890983
>in this comic
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>>83890326
>>83890527
Here we go. Buckle up, boys.
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>>83893654
>Only when they identify with him. I maintain that if Becky were a guy people wouldn't have nearly as much sympathy.
and i maintain that youre stupid and this is easily observably not true
and i dont know if youre aware of this but most people can identify with someone having a crush

>What is my blind hatred clouding in my judgement? Tell me.
literally been talking about it the entire time

>In general, women don't.
only if theyve got experience with assholes and are being reminded of that. but theres still a difference between someone wanting their crush to like them and breaking down when they dont vs someone demanding their crush like them and getting ceepy/violent when they dont

>you don't think women are people, do you
women arent real
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>>83892836
That wasn't quite my point. I don't think it makes her more sympathetic--it's more the shaking and the crying and her reassessing her beliefs.

What I hate is how Willis reacts to his own comic--below the strip, he's all "oh please stop crying; I'll do whatever it takes." It's honestly a bit disgusting, especially after what he said about the Toedad arc later on. Like, for one thing, you're the one who put her in that situation: you're the freakin' author!

And if it were a guy, like you said, Willis would be condemning him for those exact same moments.
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>>83893689
Becky is being protected by her god, Willis. He's perpetuating the exact thing he claims does not exist in her world.
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>>83894277
>you're the one who put her in that situation: you're the freakin' author!
as an author who also does this i just wanna chime in that its usually facetious. obviously he could have just written her happy if its what he actually wanted
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>>83894397
I'm also an author, but I don't know; I just find that kind of attitude off-putting. But I'm not afraid to torture my darlings, because I know whatever happens is what direction the narrative needs to take.

I'm ridiculously sensitive in real life, but when I'm writing, I'm downright ....... I want to say "ruthless," but this is not the thread to use that word.

The more my characters suffer, the better my writing is. That probably makes me a little bit terrible, but I guess that's fine.
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>>83894273
>someone demanding their crush like them and getting ceepy/violent when they dont
Except Becky has been creepy about it.
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>>83893689
This is another thing Something Positive has over this: Randy's not afraid to call out his LBGTQ characters when they're being obnoxious or creeps. T-Bob's had to be reminded that he's not nearly as quirky and cute as he thinks he is.
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>>83890527
It's-a Happening...
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>>83894774
Didn't this guy play Lurch in Addams Family?
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>>83894619
sure, in your opinion, obviously not in joyces
and all of those incidents happened long after the scene in question so they dont apply at all
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>>83894992
You do realize that time is incredibly slow in DoA, right? They happened within like, days. Becky's only been here a week or two.
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>>83894537
>That probably makes me a little bit terrible
nah. theyre not real, theres nothing wrong with that.
obviously its important for the readers to see them as people instead of characters, but as the author that kind of thinking is limiting. usually hurting them is actually the right thing for the story.
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>>83894854
And Lwaxana Troi's bodyguard, it looks like.
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>>83895039
okay so "long" is variable, but "after" isnt. beckys behavior in that scene was just to break down crying, apparently heartbroken, and then run out. thats usually considered unambiguously sympathetic, and not really comparable to someone getting mad or threatening someone when they get rejected.
pretty sure people would have been just as sympathetic if shed been a guy.

you can still think its creepy and gross for her to make jokes about her feelings after the fact, but applying them retroactively to the confession is stupid and shows a bias pretty clearly.
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>>83891181
I guess you could say she doesn't expand the dong
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>>83890527

I feel like, more and more, Willis writes shit certain ways specifically to spite people who critique his stuff.

He's referred to Becky's haircut multiple times recently in a manner which almost directly mocks people who either didn't like it, or thought Becky was foolish for spending money on it.
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>>83893689
I really hate how he writes as though his characters are real, and have real needs. He doesn't have a story he wants to tell, he just wants to have a wank over his views on religion. This comic is just wishful thinking.

>>83894309
It's really odd, isn't it, that he doesn't just write them with happy endings, he openly acknowledges he bends reality for his characters. I'm sure he doesn't see the contradiction.
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>>83895942
he definitely does do that, but people considering her haircut "too gay" has been a thing since immediately after she got it
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>>83896023
>He doesn't have a story he wants to tell
>It's really odd, isn't it, that he doesn't just write them with happy endings

>I'm sure he doesn't see the contradiction.

also
>he openly acknowledges he bends reality for his characters
every writer does that. he created their reality in the first place
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>>83896068
no, writers shape the reality that the characters exist in and set boundaries and limits to what can and cannot happen.

willis does not do this. he has never defined his reality so that he can flit between realism and cartoony impishness on a whim. this makes his attempts at drama seem stupid and ham-handed and his attempts at humor flat and often cruel. It also means becky gets her "reward" not through perservering and enduring, but by waiting for the plot train to roll by on schedule on it's plot-railroadtracks
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>>83896068
Yes but Willis' reality is a vapid lesbians-win-and-christians/parents-lose reality, in which he both plays god and ostensibly documents his transition to atheism.
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>>83896213
>lesbians win
is it really a win if shes still alone and homeless and probably about to be humiliated in church
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>>83896189
i mean i agree its not very well written, but that doesnt mean hes somehow unusual in that the things he wants to happen in his story happen
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>>83896320
that's primarily the issue people take umbrage with. things happen because they're supposed to, not because of any active agency from the characters. sure, authorship is essentially deciding what happens in the story, but if that's the totality of your authorship then you're a poor author.

with exceptions, of course, for authors like Kafka and Vonnegut, but their writing set out to explore literary concepts, while Willis is just writing the least challenging narrative he can muster
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>>83896306
Based on what Willis said and did regarding Toedad, everything will work out for her without overcoming it herself.
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>>83896449
man he can say whatever he wants but its pretty obvious no ones getting a "happy ending" until he gets bored of dragging this out for 20 years
drama is the only thing he writes. things arent going to work out for her
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>>83891324
>Becky looking fabulous in her sunday best and designer hat
Drawfags make it so
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>>83892508
It would be nice if it was about tolerance and understanding and shit. I hear Christians are into that
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>>83891064
>He'd probably get in trouble for discharging a firearm.

CO2 pellet-gun.
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>>83891056

>its also pretty hypocritical that theyre saying church shouldnt be about politics but theyre the only ones talking about it. all beckys done is say hi.

Well yeah, it's Willus constructing a big fat strawman of people who like certain spaces to be apolitical.
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>>83898080
The personal is political. What most people don't understand is that identity politics cuts both ways.
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>>83894174
*tips*
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>>83875510
>>83890326
My God, Marcus running past Joyce AND BECKY was just the first sign of the full-on shunning that is about to go on from the whole congregation.

>>83890527
So far, the funniest part of this whole thing is Becky's haircut pinging everyone's gaydar.
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If Willis were a better writer, he'd find a way to write the new church characters as antithetical to Christian tolerance and acceptance, without outright making them villainous characters by directly targeting Becky's haircut and/or lifestyle.

But that would probably require Mary as a main character, given her deeper Christian connections. It would also require Mary to have befriended Becky, or at least Joyce; in the latter case, the church would chastise both Becky and Joyce, and Mary's friendship with Joyce would cause an interpersonal conflict between her loyalty to her friendship and her faithfulness to her church.

Or something like that. What we seem to be getting here is just another "OMG Christians are hypocrites and Becky is a free-range lesbian" story. Fuck it.
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>>83898359
Is this the same church that gave Joyce's brother a new car?
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>>83898380
Presumably. I'm sure that in Willis' compressed universe, there is only one church that physically exists, with all other religions being loose congregations of sorts that meet up at various times on a weekly basis.
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>>83880009
My dad works for Nintendo and he can confirm 100% this is happening.
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>>83890326
>oh fuck it's Becky
>I better get out of here before I'm involved in a storyline with her
>maybe I'll do better in Willis' next comic
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>>83882637
>>83882656
That guy is the most delightful douchebag
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>Mary will never be portrayed as a holier-than-everyone Joan of Arc figure, literally impaling Carla on a sword and giving peace and quiet to the floor once and for all
Why live?
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>>83890527
As expected of Lutherans
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>>83898772
If Willis had grown up Presbyterian, I wonder if DoA would have ever happened.
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>>83898797
What even is (or was, although his mindset is basically still the same) Willis?

You'd think he was a former member of Westboro by his own accord, or does he not say?
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>>83898843
Given how conservative his upbringing was he had to have been either Baptist or Lutheran.
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>>83875510
So when is Joyce going to become a disappointing mom? Her clock can't be wound up forever.
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>>83898871
I'd unwind her clock if you know what I mean.
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>>83898860
I don't think filthy Lutherans are Fundies, fire and brimstone, maybe, but not actual Biblical literalists, which is a movement younger than Luther, although Luther did set the field for its rise.

It's weird that Fundamentalism is contemporary with Nietzsche
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>>83898871
Anon, please! She just barely started college!

I know that Joyce is cute, maybe even CUTE, but give her time. You can't force breeding!
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>>83898926
I will make this fictional character my cockslave and you can't stop me.
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>>83898951
Frig off.

I'm gonna marry Joyce!
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>>83892508
I'd guess it'll be about how we still need to love people in our community even after they do shitty things, and maybe those shitty things aren't so bad. Y'know, exactly the opposite of what any religious community would do after this kind of shit goes down.
>>83894854
>>83895056
No, that was Ted Cassidy, and he died back in 1979. He was only 46.
>>83898871
>insinuating that Joyce wouldn't be a great mother
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>>83898926
But you can drag her to a party, where she mistakes the punch for fruit juice, fumbles into a cute predator, makes ONE mistake, denies it for a few months, desperately hides it for a few more months, goes into full emotional breakdown, and then the hormones mindbreak her into believing it was the best thing that ever happened.
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>>83898970
You frig off, Randy.
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>>83898998
>implying it's the hormones doing the mindbreaking and not my cock
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>>83898951
I play exodia, the forbidden one
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>>83898999
Don't tell me to frig off!
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>>83899030
>>83899013
>>83899005
>>83898999
>>83898998
This is honestly worse than anything I ever saw in the QC general.
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>>83898772
>>83898797
>>83898843
>>83898860
>>83898901
according to his FAQ, Willis was (and therefore Joyce and Mary currently are) raised "nondenominational fundamentalist (nonaligned Protestant)".
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>>83899060
> implying you've never heard of it happening so often IRL that it's basically a trope
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>>83899066
That sounds to me like he's intentionally obscuring his origins.
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>>83876861
Yeah, pink does not go well with red hair.
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>>83899060
Have you ever been in a QC general? Like half of the posts are people fantasizing/memeing about Claire pegging Marten.
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>>83898997
I'm from the South, so I can't understand why people aren't flocking around Becky to say how horrible they feel about what happened, gossip about Toedad, and hopefully get a detailed description of the whole kidnapping. What kind of small town doesn't get hyped about it's citizens being in the news, no matter the reason?
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>>83890527
So it's all because no one can stand Becky's shitty haircut?
There's only one way this can end well.
But because Becky is "oppressed", she'll be a fucking damsel in distress for the Browns to stand up for
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>>83899113
Well, this is set in the Midwest, so that might be why.
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>>83890326
God, I hate Becky's hair. It looks like an alien parrot is sitting on her head.
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>>83899269
>But because Becky is "oppressed", she'll be a fucking damsel in distress for the Browns to stand up for

It's like how we didn't see Becky and Carol arguing about the dress, and mostly got a reaction from Joyce. Joyce is noticing the shunning more than Becky at this point, and will probably point it out to her before we see Becky react. Then Becky will shrug it off, while Joyce (and Hank, maybe) has (have) another uncontrollable angry outburst.
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>>83899113
Isn't gossip getting a bit of a brake around church time?
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>>83899107
>Have you ever been in a QC general
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>>83899384
i dunno about the mid-west but in the south? fuck no
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>>83891219
Church hats are more of a black thing, I guess?
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>>83899384
Protestant churches are all about gossip, brother.
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>>83898901
There are two big Lutheran churches in America. ELCA is "mainline" and LGBT-friendly. LCMS is Southern Baptist-tier fundie.
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>>83899095
Same, I'm wondering if he doesn't want people to snoop around in his tale of fundamentalism.
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>>83899529
Probably because he doesn't want people to discover that his upbringing was actually fairly normal, if right-wing, and that his problems with it are almost entirely all in his own head.
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>>83899565
>>83899529
Gee guys, no fucking shit, it's not like this dude didn't document his own radicalization.
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>>83899095
The weirdest churches are generally the ones that refuse to join denominations. Now in practice "nondenominational" just means "Baptist" on 99% of the issues, but that 1%...man...

(This is just information I gleaned from various commentary online. I have no firsthand experience, I'm actually Jewish. Our denominations are much easier to figure out.)
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>>83899565
Eh, didn't his parents forbid him from watching certain kinds of cartoons?
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>>83899689
Shit like My Little Pony, sure, but they let him play with all kinds of Transformers and bought him all kinds of toys.

No parent would let his son watch My Little Pony in the 80s, and I'll bet most dads are the same today.

That doesn't exactly make the the WBC.

I have no doubt they were fairly right wing Christians, but they probably aren't the literal satans Willis makes them out to be.
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>>83899689
I think they forbid him from watching most live action shows so he stuck with cartoons throughout his teenage years. That's actually a fairly common thing among fundamentalist households and is partially responsible for why there are so many furries - they watched anthro cartoons when they were going through puberty and it made them attracted to those types of things.
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>>83899746
Now hold on.

Wait just a minute.

Are you saying that Willis' views don't quite match reality???
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>>83899746
They also banned Care Bears and He-Man on vaguely religious grounds. ("Only Christ has The Power!")
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>>83899770
To be fair, that's mostly just fucking funny.

Plus most normies think He-Man is faggy as shit anyway.
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>>83899770
What's wrong with Care Bears? Is Care-A-Lot too much like an off-brand heaven?
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>>83899770
Care Bears is shitty, and He-Man is for retards.

If anything, his parents simply had good taste
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>>83899866
In one of the movies, they defeat Satan on their own. Only Jesus can defeat Satan. Therefore Care Bears are apostates.
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>>83899883
I wonder if Willis' parents let him watch Bibleman.
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>>83899849
>>83899876
Let's be fair here: it was mostly AFTER He-Man was cancelled that everyone realised it was dumb as shit
>>83899931
Willis was about 20 when that show was on the air
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And don't forget how Willis could not physically bring himself to masturbate until he was an adult because he would always imagine his grandma watching him from heaven and break down crying.
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>>83899958
>Willis was about 20 when that show was on the air
Given that this is Willis we're talking about that still might be a good question.
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>>83899973
In my school, they taught us about about masturbation and also evolution.

It pays to Pray to the right God
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>>83899973
Y'know, I've always thought this story was bullshit, but hoped it was true.

I mean, it's not like there's video proof or anything, and the dude's a notorious liar who seems to believe that there's no such thing as bad publicity.

But man, if that's true, that's fucking funnier than anything about anyone.
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>>83891109
Turns out the most Problematic thing is existing.

I have to wonder if Becky's borrowed a page from Clara's playbook. It's possible she does the whole "I'M A LESBIAN" shtick because she thinks the simple fact that she exists drives people mad. Granted, when every third person is some flavor of LBGTQ, it looses some of it's dramatic spark.
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We're going to get a "GAY IS EEEEEEVIL" sermon that plays right in to Dave Willis' headcanon that all Christians are either naive or malicious, aren't we?
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>>83900313
>LBGTQ
>Actually Using the Q.
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>>83900313
Thanks to your post I now ship Carla X Becky.
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>>83900872
When the reality is that people who are weak of character are vulnerable to all kinds of sinfulness
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>>83901609
For example, we here in /doag/ are vulnerable to the sin of reading Dumbing of Age.
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>>83894208
Don't you mean Becky up?
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>>83876277
I've only been occassionally popping into these threads. Why does this strip make me so *HAPPY*?
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>>83902246
Because Becky is getting BTFO.
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>>83902288
Is she the tranny or just an obnoxious piece of shit (no points for guessing "obnoxious piece of shit"; they all are, aren't they)?
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>>83902306
Carla is the tranny.
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>>83902306
Becky is the obnoxious Lesbian dating the autistic girl.

Her catchphrase is "Imma Lesbian" like some sorta pokemon
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>>83899269
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>>83904145
M E N A C I N G
we need more Jojo edits of DOA
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>>83890326
I want to believe everyone is acting like this because Becky was always insufferable. But seriously, if I heard about the cap that went down at that school, I wouldn't want to be around them either.
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>>83904179

Imagine araki writing DoA
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>>83890527
I'll be honest. As someone who is Christian and used to attend church on the regular, people actually would talk about you like that behind your back. So...I guess good on on Willis for that.
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>>83904179
This.
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>>83904145
I wanna see Toe dad and Amber's dad as pillar men
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>>83899565
Yeah, he probably went to church twice and they insulted his hair. That's why all of his characters have samehair.
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>>83904249
They got a point though. That hair is atrocious.
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>>83904841
Didn't she cut it herself?
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>>83904841
WOOOOOOOOOOOW anon, could you BE any more homophobic? Did you forget that disliking an LGBT person for any reason whatsoever, regardless of how far apart from their sexuality it is, is tantamount to literal word-based genocide??? You've been blocked, bongo. Now I will make a comic in which you get your dick cut off.
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>>83904983
no she paid a hair stylist 40 bucks for it back when that's all the money she had in the world
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>>83905133
To be fair, it was "only" $20. But yeah, that was all the money she had in the world, and she blew it on a sidecut. Guess who said it was totally a smart and worthwhile decision to make?
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>>83905133
>>83905524
Why would you need a stylist for a side cut?
You just shave one side of your head, it's not rocket science.
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>>83905954
I wouldn't be surprised if she literally walked into a salon and said "Make me look like a LESBIAN!"
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Regardless of the validity of the spoilers guy, let's assume that Willis has another porno lined up.

Who do you hope end up boinking?
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>>83907730
Carla/Mary
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>>83907730
...Amber. She fucking insane but...I could get off on it.
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>>83907730
...Danny and Ethan I GUESS
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>>83908038
She was in the last one.
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>>83908506

Willis probably would be incredibly uncomfortable with doing m/m porn and that's the real reason I want it so badly
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>>83908545
I bet he'd be even more uncomfortable doing tranny porn. Why am I not surprised he made Carla asexual?

>sign up at Willis' website
>make loads of Carla and trans positive comments
>then start complaining Willis is being transphobic for denying her a sexuality and not doing porn
Severely tempted.
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>>83908545
He's already done M/M porn in "Tales of Sinterest". Also, I live in shame that I am referring to the porn comics by their actual names.

Anyways, he did gay porn between two characters who, at that point in time, nobody knew or remembered.

>>83908676
I assume his major problem would be figuring out who Carla would bone or get boned by. I'm one of those Mary/Carla degenerates, so it better be some good old-fashioned Christian retribution.
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>>83907845
1000x this.
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>>83908545
considering he had the two of them come to the realization that if they hooked up theyd be HORRIBLE FUCKING MONSTERS to amber, dannys abusive ex gf who dumped him with no explanation, yeah its safe to say willis has no intention of keeping an m/m couple around long enough to do porn
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>>83908676
>>83908867
carlas asexual because she was a robot in shortpacked, not because he doesnt want to do porn with her
thats just an added bonus

theres still jocelyne, and its not like hes never done porn of minor characters
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>>83907730
Mary x Carla
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>>83895942
>I feel like, more and more, Willis writes shit certain ways specifically to spite people who critique his stuff.
I don't think it's even spiting us. The way he talsk about it himself he seems to think he's *proving his detractors wrong* by writing comics at them SO HARD where everyone who agrees with his detractors are evil villains.


He's basically got the mind of a seven-year-old, think back to hen you were that age.
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>>83909824
I'd say I'd like to see some porn of them, but knowing Willis it would be fucking horrifying.

Like waking up on Christmas morning only to find Unle Stu passed out on top of your N64 with his dick out.
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>>83910037
Commission Yoto for some porn.
Knowing Willis, he'd probably just draw Carla finger-banging and using a strap-on on Mary to avoid having to actually take off any clothing.
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>>83910037
That's one hell of a simile
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>>83909824
>drawing carla more attractive than she actually is to satisfy your shitty fetish
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>>83911101
It's still a better story than Willis'.
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>>83911101
It doesn't seem like she's more attractive, more like they're just drawn better. The parts are pretty similar to how Willis does it.
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>>83911434
>Carla
>having hips
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>>83907730

I assumed it was gonna be Joyce and guy she's texting
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>>83911502
That's Joe (how I remember his name is an oddity), and I wouldn't be surprised if they bang.

Oh, god, imagine if they have sex and Becky just pretends to be asleep the whole time. Joyce could be all like "Oh, yeah, Joe, stab your black metal ceremonial dagger right into my virgin birth hole and make me sing like the eunuchs in my church choir!" and Becky would be in the corner facing the wall all like JUST KEK MY SHIT UP.
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Something's happening at some kind of art gallery in September.

It doesn't seem to mesh up with the spoilers, though I assume said spoilers are for strips through the end of August.
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>>83911560
>implying the second they're about to bang, Becky wouldn't pop her head in, say "and Becky!" and ruin it.
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>>83911647
"I'M A LESBIAN! Did you know that, Whatever Your Name Is?"
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>>83911632
Whoops, forgot the picture.

>>83911647
A fair point. I could see Becky pretending she's interested in a threesome only to do everything in her power to keep Joe out of the picture.
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>>83911694
Isn't that the rapist? Ryan I think.
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>>83875510
>it's a "/co/ continues be tsundere over this shitty comic" episode

I thought these threads had stopped.
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>>83911694
I think that's Tall Dina from Robin's team?

Robin and Roz are going to make idiots of themselves, I'm sure.
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>>83911724
Nah, Ryan can be seen in >>83886476 and >>83886519. I assume there would be a scar or something.

Oh, wait, isn't that Robin's aide? I guess it involves her.
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>>83911502
joyce is not for sexual
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>>83911833
Joyce is very for sexual. Those hips are for birthing.
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>>83911833
Yeah, I don't think Willis is going to go there... at least, not for now.

http://itswalky.deviantart.com/gallery/37947681/Pin-Up-Week#/d55fva0
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>>83911876
joyce is not for sexual before marriage
after marriage very for sexual
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>>83912032
Joyce banged Walky plenty before marriage.
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>>83901331
The Q's kind of needed now that we have a good dozen or so new variants that don't fit into lesbian, gay, bisexual or trans. Internet sexuality's a heck of a thing.

>>83901356
They will grow old and love and discover that Becky's not hated because she's a lesbian, nor Carla because she's trans.

But because they're obnoxious assholes.
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>>83908038
Now that she's cut ties with Danny, there's really one option left.
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>>83909824
This Jesus guy can turn water into wine! Now that's a party!
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>>83912588
>you will never be so psychologically damaged your sex life turns into a Jodorowsky film
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So my friend found this strip from the rape party.

Not only do three out of four panels make very bad decisions, it seems to imply in the second panel that Joyce's father was the more oppressive figure in the family while Joyce was growing up. Now, of course, that view has changed.

An interesting shift to say the least. When did Willis' daddy issues become mommy issues again?
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>>83913236
Maybe when he got married and started trying to have kids himself? Build up his Cool Nerd Dad cred?
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>>83913236
Willis is a dad now. So dads are good at everything except protecting the children from the evil women.
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>>83913236
Joyce was drugged, but everyone else besides Dorothy seems to have taken crazy pills.
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>>83899350
Wow. This comic suddenly got a lot more enjoyable.

It's not the misadventures of an overbearing lesbian anymore, it's the misadventures of an alien parasite trying to fit in with humanity by mimicking what it thinks it's host would say and do.
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>>83913236

>This jerkwad did what he did in order to get power over another human being
No, he did it to get sweet, sweet, Joyce pussy
>If she doesn' come back to school 'cuz of this, he still wins
Not without sexing Joyce he doesn't

>Police report? Catching a criminal? Drug testing? Nah, that can wait all night.

God these people are retarded.
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>>83913834
Becky just wanted a rainbow tattoo on the back of her neck, maybe get some flannel and join Campus Pride, but the parasite from beyond the stars that is hooked to her brain forces her to scream about her lesbianism why she can only watch helplessly, trapped in her own body. She didn't even want to date Dina, she was gonna try her luck with Sierra.
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>>83913834
>>83914061
toedad was probably the single dumbest arc of this series IMO, it was worse than the roofy
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>>83914061
I bet the cops loved that the kids let Joyce sleep all the roofie out of her system before coming to them.
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Reminder that nobody will die in this comic.
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>>83913236
he never had daddy issues. he still sort of likes his dad.
joyces dad is the oppressive figure because hes in charge of the family, obviously
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>>83914375
They didn't actually go to the cops. Joyce refused to do it: http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-2/01-pajama-jeans/decision/

Sal pointed out what you said: http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-2/01-pajama-jeans/assault/

And it immediately went into Anime Beach Episode: http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-2/01-pajama-jeans/beach/
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>>83914453
If we're lucky, Willis will die when one of his epileptic fits causes the plane he's on to crash into the ocean.
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>>83914317
The sad thing is that Toedad and the party are only two arcs that we focus on. This comic has been running for six years; there's bound to be some other storyline we've not noticed about.
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>>83915223
The stupid "Whiteboard Ding-Dong Bandit" story was unfathomably stupid.

There are also delightful stories that include (in no particular order)...
Amber's confrontation with her father,
Parents' Weekend,
Amber beating people up in a parking lot for underage drinking,
Walky discovers he was in an old Christian TV show,
Ruth abusing Billie while Billie tries to get her roommate agreement form signed,
Walky getting Pajama Jeans,
Joyce goes on a date with Joe and beats him up (with Mike's help) for staring at a waitress,
Joyce makes accidental innuendo and pretends Sarah's vibrator is a lightsaber,
Becky trying to avoid getting caught by Ruth,
and Walky deciding that only girls have more than one pair of shoes, so he has to borrow his girlfriend's ex-boyfriend's shoes in order to go to class.
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>>83915223
>This comic has been running for six years;
Let's put it this way. Joyce left the house with Becky without asking to take the SUV (~24 hours prior) back at the end of February.

Unless by "some other storyline" you meant some irrelevant off-topic bullshit strips like that politician bit a few days ago, in which case I'm sure there are plenty like it.
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>>83915497
I meant storylines like >>83915388.
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>>83893626
where is this doa edits tumblr?
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>>83914375
Rohypnol can be detected up to 72 hours after the case, GHB in 12 hours. It would've probably been detectable. It's pretty reasonable that they used that as an excuse to not go though.
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>>83915828
http://doa-edits.tumblr.com/
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>Willis bought the lady Ghostbusters action figures

Of course he did.
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>>83904197
If it was them though, you wouldn't just get the Joyce acknowledgement.
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>>83899417
>>83899500
North and I can say with confidence the only difference is probably the accents.
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>>83915915
Not according to the comics posted by >>83914600

Is letting that guy go the most stupid and irresponsible thing anyone has done in DoA? The sextape to spite the politician was just embarrassing, it didn't create future chances of people getting raped.
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>>83876467
I've rejected 5 gay guys. I just want to shop for leather chaps and funnel gags in peace, dammit
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>>83916519
Oh God.
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>>83916519
>Its gonna be so good guyz!
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>>83916519
That's worth at least 40 points in Internet Nice Guy cred, 10 for each character. Also, he put the toys on his blog, it becomes a business expense. Win-Win!
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>>83916519
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Blessed art thou, O Holy Patreanon, that you may bless us with Your Divine Presence and bestow upon we Your inferior lessers that punishment most befitting to those of our stature.
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>>83890527
Here's today's while we wait.
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>>83918851
fucking door people, judging lesbian hair
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There's a disturbingly self-aware alt-text on today's:
"'and she just suddenly seems more obnoxious, somehow.'"
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>>83919261
I wouldn't put too much thought into it. For Willis, "obnoxious" is apparently another word for "endearingly quirky".
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>>83919261
Given >>83890326, Willis seems to almost be acknowledging that he's made Becky a completely annoying douche.

Then again, given his reaction to our edits of her goodbye to Toedad, he may just be writing these thinking that he's being funny and having a laugh at people who dislike Becky's personality. If that's the case, I almost wonder if he's making her annoying on purpose.
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>>83919377
>he may just be writing these thinking that he's being funny and having a laugh at people who dislike Becky's personality.

I think you nailed it there.
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Where's the new strip
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>>83919747
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>>83919515
>>83919377
I think it is generally unwise to attribute very much self-consciousness to Willis.
http://itswalky.tumblr.com/post/133911326532/the-storylines-over-and-now-that-it-is-i-wanted
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>>83919784
It always comes back to Becky these days
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>>83908676
>>83908867
>>83909071
just because Carla's asexual, doesn't mean she can't be in one of his pornos. tumblr (aka Willis's intended audience) has this whole thing about "Just because I don't like sex, that doesn't mean I'm not interested in reenacting Poor Little White Guy".
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>>83920061
Don't forget this abomination of a strip: http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=2071
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>>83920138
Don't make people go to this ass site.
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>>83919377
Cerberus: That alt-text makes me *evil grin* in the worst way.

oh FFFFFUCK OFFFF.
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>>83920210
>>83920138
I dunno guys. I can still fap to this easy.
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>>83920282
That's all on you, dude. Make sure to look carefully at the last panel.

Also, the point was that Carla is still a possibility for a porn comic.
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>>83920210
Ah yeah, robot tentacle lovin', but in a 'sex-positive' kinda way.
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>>83920346
Yeah, Malaya's leaking like an anime school girl.
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>>83920210
does this have an edit where there's blood-spray spattering all over the umbrella?
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>>83920244
i don't care for going to cons, but i think i will buy a ticket to the next one in town just to stand in willis' line screaming "HAVE I TOLD YOU I'M GAY? I'M TOTALLY GAY!" to every person that comes within five feet of me
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>>83920244
Cerebus is one of those people I wish would be teleported to some country overun with islamic people so they can take turns raping him in the ass before setting him on fire.
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>>83920421
Not yet, but to whomever does it: perhaps add Malaya's head falling?
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>>83890326
AND PEGGY
THE SCHUYLER SISTERS
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>>83914061

>God these people are retarded.

"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky animals and you know it." People don't always make rational or intelligent decisions. It's not necessarily bad writing to have people be dumb.
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>>83912428
girl-willis banging brown-willis isn't sexual
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>>83920619
The "don't do anything about the rapist" plot point is pretty transparently an attempt to avoid any consequences at all from the "attempted rape" storyline other than Joyce getting more trauma and losing more innocence. It doesn't feel natural or realistic; it's just another stop on the Shock Joyce train that's inevitably going to end up with her cowed, penitent, and righteously angry on behalf on the Real Victims. Willis has been dragging this out for six years straight and it only gets more irritating with time.
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>>83920346
Yeah, girls squirting ain't a turnoff. If anything it makes it hotter cuz I know she came.
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>>83920705
Break the Cutie has basically been one of the common cards in Willis' deck of plots. It's why Amber has to go through her issues with her abusive dad yet again. It's basically the one story he knows to do with her.
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>>83920705

Sometimes people just don't do anything about people who threaten/hurt them, even though they should. And what consequences did you want to see coming out of that storyline?
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>>83918851
Of freaking course. I just checked the strip on the site, and he tagged "Carol" in the comic. So Joyce's mom is part of the gossip girls.
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>>83920799
It's kind of interesting what a few years makes. Today, a would-be rapist would have been dragged into a media circus he could never leave. So there'd be some sort of 'win' that way, even if he doesn't get the hammer dropped on him otherwise.
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>>83920855
carol is tagged because shes standing next to hank. you can see her in the first panel.
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>>83920799
It's not the storyline choices that bug me as much as it is the ridiculously slow pacing. If Willis wasn't as insistent on making every hour of every day contain plot, we could actually get through a police report, investigation, trial, and aftermath within a reasonable amount of time. Instead, we have years' worth of interconnected plots crammed into the space of a few weeks, making it seem like the comic is moving too fast and too slowly at the same time. It's a complete mess and it's a terrible stylistic choice for the story he's trying to tell.
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>>83920799
I'm not them, but for me it isn't so much a matter of consequences as much as it is a matter of development. Sure, you can have Joyce not be willing to do anything about the situation, and sure, you can have her start to grow more and more anxious about being alone, but you shouldn't just stop there. You need to keep the story going and developing. For example, you could have a situation where Joyce is forced to be alone, whether being forced (her friend accidentally abandons her for some other reason) or by accident (she is so caught up in a phone conversation that she begins walking alone), and from there you could have Joyce be forced between her human fight-or-flight response. Either way, she would eventually be forced to face her fears, something that can involve her friends, therapy, or her own personal journey. This could also include coming to terms with her near-assault, perhaps phoning in the police to have Ryan investigated or seeking him out herself to exact some kind of revenge, or maybe even preventing him from drugging another girl at a party.

Ultimately, what needs to be seen is a dramatic change between Joyce at the beginning of her character arc, afraid to walk outside without assistance, and the end of her arc, in which she's free to go wherever she pleases.
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>>83920357
no in the dumbest fucking way. here's a quick recap of that storyline:
>Carla: BEEP BOOP I AM A ROBOT AND I DON'T LIKE THE SEX. HUMAN FLUIDS ARE DISGUSTING.
>Malaya: I am a huge cunt and I'm frustrated that my robot girlfriend won't fuck me.
>Carla: I AM SORRY MALAYA BUT AS A ROBOT I AM ILL-EQUIPPED TO GIVE YOU THE SEX AS I DO NOT HAVE A PENIS OR VAGINA.
>Malaya: I actually understand your position. You know what, while not having sex is a pretty big bummer, an even bigger bummer would be not having a relationship with you. I guess I'll have to find a way to deal with my frustration on my own ti-
>Carla: OH WAIT YOU WANTED THE SEX? I CAN GIVE YOU THE SEX WITH MY ROBOT HAND. NOW I SHALL FINGERBANG YOU IN THIS CHILDREN'S TOY STORE.
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>>83920938

>For example, you could have a situation where Joyce is forced to be alone, whether being forced (her friend accidentally abandons her for some other reason) or by accident (she is so caught up in a phone conversation that she begins walking alone), and from there you could have Joyce be forced between her human fight-or-flight response.

Didn't that actually happen as b-plot during the Toedad story?

>This could also include coming to terms with her near-assault, perhaps phoning in the police to have Ryan investigated or seeking him out herself to exact some kind of revenge, or maybe even preventing him from drugging another girl at a party.

These options were mostly written away for the moment, as Ryan was kind of pushed as 'random anonymous dude'.

>>83920889
There are some decompression issues, but that's rarely a serious enough issue to drive away readers. (If it was, Bendis would be homeless.) As far as "terrible stylistic choice" - eh. It seems to be working for him. May take a decade or three to finish the comic, but if that's how he wants to go, there's nothing really stopping him.
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>>83921140
>May take a decade or three to finish the comic, but if that's how he wants to go, there's nothing really stopping him.
>May take a decade or three to finish the comic
>finish the comic
yeah that's not happening. on his FAQ he had this little factoid:
>(I don’t ever plan for the story to reach sophomore year, so you can stop worrying we’re not ever going to get there.)
up until a day ago and there's also this: >>83881448. there's not going to be any kind of conclusion to this shit.
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>>83921444
I wonder why he took that part down.

I found this one amusing: "10) I deleted your post because I can’t take criticism, not because you posted sixteen slurs in a row."

At least he admits it.....?
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>>83921544
im not sure if he wrote that backwards or if its supposed to be sarcasm
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>>83921619
It's probably sarcasm, but that's not helpful in an FAQ.
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>>83883027
I don't have a problem with not having the comic taking place in real time - nobody expects something that ridiculous.

The problem is the terrible pacing that this establishes. You've now got years and years and years of pages, literally hundreds of major events and dozens of character arcs.... and it's all happened in the space of a month.
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>>83922121
Agreed:

>>83883314
>I agree with your sentiment, but the way the plot works in the amount of time that has occurred... it doesn't coordinate with it very well.
>Joyce has become someone completely different in just over a month.
>In that time span, Amber's psyche has devolved from being a bit fragile to utterly broken. She went from occasionally putting herself in minor danger by beating people up to escalating to car chases and attacking Sal's group in the parking lot and everything else.
>Billie and Ruth's relationship is like a Roman candle. It looks in the long run like it lasted a while, because it took place over the years for readers, but it hardly existed in-universe. And you can say the same for Dorothy and Danny.
>Danny's also gotten broken up with twice in 5 weeks.
>This isn't to say it's not possible for all of these things to happen, but all of these developments seem a bit forced when you read it together and not a strip a day.
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>>83904202
Then it would be good. Or at least entertaining.
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>>83898772
>Implying

These are clearly Baptists. Becky's awful haircut is between her and god.
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>>83898997
I think he meant Lurch in the Addams Family movies from a few years back. With Raul Juila and Christina Richie and all that.
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U wasn't keeping up with this comic.

Has the pure christian girl already turned into cunt addicted atheist dyke?
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>>83922593
no
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This shitty comic is really getting to. I just had a fucking dream where Willis had an update link to YouTube that showed Carla and Mary break into song to settle their dispute.
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>>83922899
ok its definitely time for you to stop reading it
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>>83922899

ignore >>83922918, you need to find a way to make this fevered dream a reality
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>>83921140
>Didn't that actually happen as b-plot during the Toedad story?
Unsure, but if it did, I don't recall it being focused upon with the kind of weight necessary.

>These options were mostly written away for the moment, as Ryan was kind of pushed as 'random anonymous dude'.
He shouldn't be representative of "random anonymous dudes". He should be representative of himself and what he brings to Joyce's character arc.
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>>83922899
Fucking hell, I just had a dream where Willis ends the current Church arc with Joyce punching Mary for five strips straight.

I don't even read the damn comic.
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>>83924568
Maybe you should stop reading the comic. It really isn't normal to obsess over something so totally stupid.
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>>83924583
Sorry, I meant you should stop reading the thread. It's early.
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>>83920061
Asexuals are a fucking joke anyway. Literally what used to be Gen X teenagers who wanted to sound cool by claiming they have no feelings.

>I totally don't have any desire for sex
>oh until my cock gets hard or my vag gets wet
>then I guess I'll have sex
>but I'm still totally asexual
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>>83920460
Do you have tits?

If no, prepare to be thrown out.

Sorry anon, no one gives a shit about the G or B in LGBT anymore, it's all about the dykes and trannies. If you're gay or bi, go FUCK yourself, as far as these circles are concerned.
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>>83924583
>>83924589
I really like watching and/or following trainwrecks, though, and this is one of the longest and most elaborate disasters I've ever seen.

Besides, Mary started fighting back before my alarm went off.
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>>83924631
Asexual people don't claim to not get aroused when stimulated. That's an uncontrollable biological response.

Nor do they necessarily lack libido. Desire to get off does not equal attraction. They can just take care of it themselves and carry on with their day.

What they lack is sexual attraction to other people. The way you feel about people in your life to whom you aren't attracted, they feel about everyone.
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>>83882815
>he just can't. get. over. the fact that his mom was mean to him.

Or, so he claims.I really don't think Willis is a reliable narrator.
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>>83912588
Waiting so much for Danny to become Ethan's subservient little sissy bitch.
And the spooning and cuddling afterwards.
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>>83924738
Whatever. I think it's a load of bollocks myself except in cases of actual genetic disorder, which would be incredibly rare compared to the number of people who claim to be "asexual" who are just doing it for the attention because it's impossible to prove.
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>>83924738
Oh, so they're sexual, they just have hangups about attraction to folks.

That's not asexuality, that's called being a weirdass nerdy little virgin.
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>>83924738
>And Asexuals think all of this counts as a "struggle".
I'm pretty certain they aren't killed and outlawed for being Asexual.
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judging by the super shitty line work and the wonky anatomy, you can just feel how awful this felt for Willis to draw.

Willis is one of the few people in the world I believe truly hates/fears penises
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>>83925156
>Willis is one of the few people in the world I believe truly hates/fears penises
Have you SEEN his pornography?
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>>83925156
He just knows that he can't win against the dick.
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>>83924861
This IMO desu. Asexuality lacks the desire. Sad omega virgins lack the ability.
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>>83924937
No, but they do get Internet Cred for talking about it on the internet, which is just as worthy an effort as actually going out to support or protest for a cause.
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>>83925318
unless something changed in last one, all his dicks look like hot dogs
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>>83905954
My question is how did she have enough hair to get her current style? It's been like, what, 1 week? 2 weeks? Her hair was really short when she ran out on Joyce and hair does not grow that fast. The way her hair looks now, it looks like she has/had quite a bit before it was chopped off.
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>>83907845
>>83909824
Mary and Roz
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>>83927795
Willis just expects you to believe it always looked that way.
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>>83905524

But...

*Scoff*

Anon...

Identity...
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>>83905524

I remember in a Psych class the teacher mentioned that women in prison getting their hair styled is practically mandatory. Like, Priority 1, before therapy for mental disorders and shit.

I think hair is just a naturally irrational subject when it comes to the fairer sex.
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>>83928041
That's more of a personal freedom thing, which is a big deal in prison populations. Also getting your hair styled in prison is a transaction between prisoners, completely different than therapy.
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>>83914061
To be fair, most experts in sexual crimes agree that rape is more about power over the person being raped than just fucking them.
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>>83924937
It's annoying and a bit alienating but not what I would call a struggle. All you have to do is set boundaries with people--you don't even have to tell anyone about it unless directly asked.

Not being sexually attracted to anyone mostly just leads to feeling weird because you can't relate to stories where people absolutely had to have sex because they just couldn't resist, blahblahblah.

Alienating? Sometimes. A struggle? Only occasionally. More media representation would be nice, but I'm not holding my breath.
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>>83917852

This panel so angers me.
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>>83930151
For what reason in particular?
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>>83916519

It's fucking amazing.

These people literally believe that they have a MORAL DUTY to like and financially support this fucking movie because there are "evil" people on the internet who dislike it.
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