Damn, Marvel redid the issue. Good on them, and the result

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>>83490910
*Second page

>>83490939
>I've seen enough hentai to know where this is going
I almost believed it until then

So who did this

>>83490910
The issue sucked regardless.

>>83491170
A dirty misogynerd, I'm sure.

>>83491247
It was the patraich known as GamerGate.

>>83490939
>knowing who to kill and who to let live

That's pretty bad, it's like saying she was learning to play god

>>83491676
Heroes kill people, or sentient beings all the time.

>>83490910
>>83490939
Aside from the hentai thing this reads a lot better and makes me care about the character more. I mean really the only pictured hero that got his powers for being a dude was Cap, and he'sfrom yhe 40s.

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>>83490939
>a fucking random anon from /co/ can write vastly better dialogue than Marvel

Nice work anon, by the way.

>>83491911

Actually a redditor did it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/4mgp15/edit_fixed_it_for_ya_mockingbird_3_2016/

I can't wait for someone to tell Rich about this.

>>83491911
Not mine, found it on reddit. But I've little doubt half the guys in here could write something better than what was first published.

The worst thing about this is that the first two issues at least had potential for something enjoyable and then it just went full throttle retarded.

>>83490910
Referring to the original text, does Marvel even read Marvel anymore?

>>83491996
>reddit
>kotakuinaction

And it was going so well.

>>83493122
Why does any of that even matter? It's still much better dialogue that actually salvaged the work.

>>83490910
>>83490939
This is great. Actually has a positive message.

>>83490910
>>83490939
Dare I ask what the content of the original pages was?

>>83493812
It implied that those characters in the first page got their powers because they had a Y chromosome, and the second page says that being a woman superhero sucks because men dominate the field.

>>83490910
>>83490939
If I had a daughter, this is the hero I'd want her looking up to

>>83492011
who

>>83493122

i mean what did you expect

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>>83493812
Ask and ye shall receive.

>>83494292
The only thing that can really stop this is SJW backlash. At a certain point they'll have to notice how fake and awful it all seems and just stop giving a shit.

>>83494343
It'll stop when the loosely-overlapping groups of suburban millenials we've come to know as 'SJWs' finally get bored and latch onto another medium the majority of them probably persecuted the other kids in junior school for enjoying.

It'll probably be pen-and-paper tabletop games, like Dungeons And Dragons, or Warhammer.

>>83494292

this is fine. the fuck are you even upset about

>>83494514
One of them is an android, one of them is a mixed-race fish man, one of them got his powers from super drugs, one of them is a literal God of old, and the last one is persecuted and attacked for his genetics.

>>83494514
There are female Marvel superheros. The entire premise of the page is asinine.

>>83490910
Cap literally was given powers.

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>>83494292
>Gloria Steinem lunchbox

>>83494592
>>83494623

i guess i'm wrong to read it like a dumb kid is talking and looking for any explanation.

>>83494694
She's telling this as an adult. She never once says "my opinion on the matter as a kid was incorrect".

>>83494514
Tell 'em, girlfriend.

>>83494773

yeah you can tell it's incorrect because everything on that page is. Getting x-rays and farming spiders aren't how you get powers.

i'm going solely on the 1 page bc we can't keep expanding to "Gotta wait for the first 6 issues to judge"

>>83494493
Too late.

>>83490910
The most retarded thing about that page is the selection of Super Heroes.

Human Torch
>A woman got powers from the same accident as him
Namor
>He's not even human
Captain America
>A Soilder from the 40's
Thor
>Not a human either
Biclops
>Mutants probably make up the majority of super powered females.

>>83494493
Stamp collecting is next.

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>>83494292

Heh, I'm used now by all the bullshit comic book writers come with these last years

But that Cyclops visor does trigger me

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>>83494493
>tfw

>>83494948
>Human Torch
>>A woman got powers from the same accident as him
To be fair I'm pretty sure that's supposed to be the other human torch.
Who wasn't even human, so your point still stands.

>>83494292
Well that left a bad taste in my mouth.

Seriously what have we actually done to have them just come after us like that.

>>83491247
Tbh you're not far from the truth. It was someone from the gamergate reddit

>>83494991
his one defining feature have been his glasses for years, how can you get them wrong? Hell that isn't even his most iconic costume.

>>83495398
I'm pretty sure the entire issue was IRL shitposting.

>>83495378
Do people honestly believe that GamerGate was about hating women?

>>83495625
It's the narrative that was being sold.

>>83495398
That's his visor not his Ruby Quartz glasses when he's wearing a casual outfit.
It has always been a straight Line (until his latest X's shaped one) hence his hero name ; Cyclops

>>83495625
What was originally about getting gender politics out of vidya got interpreted by various gaming news channels as an anti-feminism movement. It snowballed from there when major television news outlets picked it up.

When every major outlet is peddling the same purposely misinterpreted story, and Wikipedia defines that story as fact, it isn't surprising that people would think the movement was about sexism.

>>83490939
>Pembroke Welsh Corgis
>I'm ok-You're ok
Are these edits too? They're fucking hilarious

>>83495625
How can you not desu? Go on KotakuInAction right the fuck now, nothing about video games, everything about SJWs (most of which are female) and then look at the comments, which are just a bunch of hateful bullshit.

>>83496303
No,those were there in the original

>>83496373
So do you have an examples of hateful comments? Because I'm looking right now and I'm not seeing much

>>83496702
>Actually defending gamergobber

Back to /r/mensrights with you.

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>>83496373
>look at the comments, which are just a bunch of hateful bullshit.
>Treat people respectfully but if they refuse to back their arguments with statistics or any verifiable form of data then they aren't worth taking seriously

What are you even saying

>>83496890
Disagreeing with SJW is being a hateful misogynistic bigot.
Is it that hard to understand?

I don't have a dog in this fight, because this is the first I've seen of this, but the Redditor's version is a million times better.

The original focuses on what you can be given, what can be done passively.

The ethic of hard work is a far better lesson. There are a lot of people I've met who were praised for their intelligence, but when things evened out with their peers, they didn't know how to study or work hard--they just wondered why they suddenly felt stupid.

I've been working my butt off to be intelligent and productive since I was 5, when some idiot adult told me I should be more mature like my sister, who was 8 at the time. Like, no duh, of course I'm not going to be as mature as my sister.

But I decided to try for it anyway. She has always been praised for her natural intelligence--even got a 29 on the ACT on her first try. I took the ACT three times in order to outdo her. I now have a Master's degree, and my sister does almost nothing with herself because she has no motivation to do so.

I'm not saying I'm a good role model--I'm saying that perseverance, motivation, and effort go a lot further than what you're born with.

I've always hated Sleeping Beauty, because all she does is lie there and wait to be saved. She had one job: to not get her finger stabbed. And she couldn't even do that. Her merit is based on her beauty, not anything she DOES. This new version of that comic encourages a good work ethic, not waiting for someone to give her what she wants.

The original also goes out of its way to be "ewwwwww, 'girly' things." There is room for both in life--I promise.

Man even the original shows she was wrong and worked to become a hero. how sensitive can you be

>>83496373
Hey, I never put desu in that post!

>>83496702
Usually there is. I remember once there was a trans person posting saying that they love Gamergate and all of the comments were harrassing them and it was actually kind of funny because then they renounced their gamergate love.

>>83497244
The original has her blaming sexism for her not just becoming a super hero and ends on the message that sexism is still holding women back from it.

>>83497272
>I remember once there was a trans person posting saying that they love Gamergate and all of the comments were harrassing them and it was actually kind of funny because then they renounced their gamergate love.
There's a bunch of openly trans people who post there and I've never seen tanyone give them shit for it. You're gonna have to prove that.

>>83497272
Confirmed for new!

>>83495398
>Hell that isn't even his most iconic costume.
Why, he didn't even have that costume until after Mockingbird was an Avenger.

>>83497310

look i can't teach you reading comprehension

>>83497411
Literally the very end note of that two page section was sexism.

Maybe you should learn how to read before telling other people what things say.

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>>83497606

so you're telling me she's wrong that females heroes have to put up with more shit?

>>83497686
What shit would that be?

Getting killed by bad guys?

>>83495625
>Be movement media doesn't like
>Media spins movement to be about hating women
>Women haters hear about your movement and join in
>Actual people interested in the movement are repelled by insane neckbears and start leaving
>Movement is now about hating women

>>83497851
It never really got taken over by actual mysoginists, though.

The only place that came close to being a congregation of gamergate shit was KiA and they will come down on you for that shit.

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>>83497847

like what am i even supposed to do with this

>>83490910
>as soon as Italy wins the Eurovision
S A V A G E

>>83494292
Give me the second unedited page you hacks

>>83497958
I thought this was Peridot decapitating herself.

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>>83498021
I have other outtakes if you want.

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>>83498242
I want the second page. Give context.

>>83498287
Because bleeding out your vagina is fucking disgusting. So is shiting, pissing, pussing, vomiting ext. The human body is fucking disgusting.

>>83497272
>be /pol/
>hate reddit
>see reddit ruining something by being faggots
>decide to claim to be transgender
>then use a bunch of sockpuppet accounts to shit on yourself for being transgender and downvote your transgender sockpuppet
>SJWs and retards like you hold it up as evidence that reddit is sexist
>/pol/ continues to be the Board of Peace and keks at the results

>>83490910
>>83490939
>I actually thought this was real and not a fan edit
God dammit, I actually had faith in Marvel for a second.

Seriously, the actual page is one of the most insulting things I've ever fucking seen.
>Female superheroes are worthless
>Storm, Jean Grey, She-Hulk, Sue Storm, Jessica Drew, Maria Hill, Black Widow; all terrible
>Because they're women
>I tried to take a bunch of short-cuts to be a superhero, rather than trying to better myself through hard work
>I failed, and this is because of men
>Men are inherently better than women, and that's why they have superpowers
>Human Torch (accident)? Privilege
>Namor (Atlantean physiology)? Privilege
>Captain America (science serum)? Privilege
>Thor (is a literal god)? Privilege
>Cyclops (is a mutant and is thus part of a marginalized group)? Privilege
>But me, an affluent well-educated white woman super-spy living in my underwater house and enjoying my childhood dream of being a superhero (without the horrible side-effects of stigmas that people like Hulk or the X-Men have to deal with)?
>I'm at the bottom of society, please weep for me

Like holy fuck, I don't really believe in getting offended by things, but this is just morally wrong from just about every viewpoint aside from "fucking lunatic with a victim complex".
I've never read a Mockingbird comic, I just know of her from EMH, but these two pages just turn her into an unlikable hunk of shit.

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>>83498421
There is no context, it is what you think it is.

>>83498287
>>83498242
Was this written by a man?
Are nu-males so far removed from actual relationships with women that they think all they do is talk about tampons?
Or is it some trans-'woman' who is just always lamenting that they will never have a period?
Because if these are a sarcastic joke its really far and too the left.
Is this whole comic just an elaborate lampooning of SJW outlook? Because no one is getting the joke, or at least laughing.

>>83494514
>I tried to take the easy way rather than work hard like Daredevil, War Machine, or Hawkeye, but my unfulfilled dreams are the patriarchy's fault
>The wage gap is totally real you guys
>Female superheroes are not notable and are inferior to male superheroes
>Black Widow? Storm? Jean Grey? She-Hulk? Invisible Woman? Squirrel Girl? Total jobbers who have never done anything of note, because they're women
>If you want to be successful, you have to have a penis
>I'm obviously wealthy, able-bodied, well-educated, and living my childhood dream, but I'm still on the bottom rung of society because muh privilege

Pick one.

>>83498590
Written by Chelsea Cain, who as far as I can tell was born a woman

so nice rant about nothing

>>83494292
Aren't the big plot points of Cap and Thor all about being WORTHY?

>>83497185
>The original also goes out of its way to be "ewwwwww, 'girly' things."
This is something I hate in modern books, especially ones aimed at a young female audience.

Why do we have to shame girls for wanting to play with dolls or get married? Isn't feminism supposed to be about everybody being equal and free to live how they want, whether or not it aligns with societal roles?

>>83498709
Well, they were. Now they're about male Privilege.

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>>83498607

From posts and talk itt, people are deliberately misreading it to be mad and no amount of discussion will change anyone's mind. so i'm going to go read a comic i enjoy and not waste my time.

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>>83498666
Then what is about this woman and tampons?
The closest I've even gotten to this much of a tampon focus is I had a GF that wanted us to keep a set of spare pads in the glove compartment, and that was just a one off conversation.
I can't even!

>>83498820
they're just annoyed about tampons being taxed as a luxury good but no one will talk about it

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>>83498775
I was going to ask "how can you deliberately misread a book when it says "the notable superheroes are only notable because they're men" right there on the page", but then I noticed the Hillary reaction image and realize this is just elaborate bait.

>>83498775
tampons, amiright?

>>83498865
What a slight, good thing we have feminism to stand up against such pressing issues

>>83498940
I mean just because they're not starving in the streets doesn't mean it's not bullshit

>>83498865
Is that the whole joke?
That's really forced and dumb. Like isn't a blog or podcast a better place to get the word out then just confusing people with random one offs in comics?
also
>Implying politicians are 'afraid' to talk about tampons and aren't using feminist rage as a smoke screen for shady shit.

>>83498984
I don't know if that's the joke, but it's what came to mind most immediately

And I mean politicians legit are afraid to talk about tampons because they legitimately don't know how periods work and don't want to look like idiots

>>83498903
>elaborate

It's blatant bait.

>>83498981
Do people pay taxes on toilet-paper?

>>83498981
I can't really take a stance on this, since I'm a dude and tampons hold no relevancy in the quality of my daily life, but it's kinda fucked how "I'm a middle-upper class woman in America and I have to pay for tampons" is an issue while "women are raped/killed/sold as property in foreign countries" isn't.

Like, not that you can't have two kinds of problems (I don't give a shit that there's starving kids in China, mom, I don't like asparagus), but if I was a feminist or activist, I'd probably dedicate my life to ending sex trafficking or giving women in the Middle East some modicum of human rights as opposed to complaining about air conditioning or the way people sit on a bus.

Like, if you want your comic to have a strong feminist message, wouldn't you make it about Mockingbird rescuing sex slaves or something?

Like, there's the Mad Max: Fury Road "we're actually kicking ass and fighting legitimate evil" kind of feminism, and then there's the Marvel Comics "I've got a trendy haircut and an obligatory gay best friend, we're going to spout memes and do nothing of consequence while lecturing strawmen on millenial gender politics" kind of feminism.

>>83499510
>not knowing modern feminism is just MEism.

>>83499510
I still don't understand why it's a problem to pay taxes on tampons, don't we do that on toilet-paper too?

>>83499510
Because that's a copout. It's like saying gays shouldn't worry about being able to get married or being discriminated against here because there are other places where it's worse. We don't have to fix every other issue in the world before moving on down some kind of list, and people have every right to want to deal with the problems that effect them and their home. This mindset has never, ever been a legitimate or rational argument.

>>83494493
>Warhammer
Games Workshop will burn everything to the ground the day that such events even look like they are about to unfold

>>83490939
I actually want to read this comic.

>>83497272
> I remember once there was a trans person posting saying that they love Gamergate and all of the comments were harrassing them and it was actually kind of funny because then they renounced their gamergate love.

I know its fun to lie on the internet anon but you need to try harder next time

>>83499629
Exactly this, which is why we need to completely halt and deport refugees entering western contries.

>>83490939
Congrats anon, you managed to fix the science dialogue!
Not it doesn't sound retarded with her saying obvious facts like a closed system is a closed system.

>>83490910

>They were never given their powers
>Except for Cap but never mind

>>83499629
get married a constitutional protection under the equal protection clause of the constitution != manspreading

Get fucked, rights to marriage and equal protection are one thing, behaviors that offend are another.

>>83498287
I'm cool with talking about tampons but no one ever likes what I have to say

It's fucking silly women have to stick shit in their vag because it bleeds profusely on a monthly basis. Its a huge biological design flaw in my eyes. If someone shit themselves constantly and just said "its part of me blossoming into an adult" they would be avoided. shits gross af yo

It's one of the biggest flaws of being human and should be a constant source of embarrassment and redicule, not pride or whatever. fuck

>>83499878
Caps got his because he was a man.

>>83498287
My catheter is itching me something fierce.

>>83499963
>It's one of the biggest flaws of being human...

Well, a woman at least.

>>83498820
You let her though, right? Convenience is convenience.

>>83499964
cap got his powers because he exhibited behavior befitting a hero not because he was a man

Comics are so desperate for female readers that they will publish anything that targets them, even if it is drivel by any standards..

>>83500091
He would have never been chosen if he was a girl.

>>83500189
There are alt-marvel universes where captain america is a woman, so you are wrong about that

>>83491911
>>83491996

Marvel: Why do you even bother?

>>83494493
D+D already survived the 80's, don't throw us under the bus again.

>>83500242
Stop derailing.

>>83500338
stop posting

>>83500338
Not that anon, but it was a legit rebuttal.

>>83499629
But gays can get married now.
It's literally the law of the land.

There's a few backwards idiots who will continue to be bigots, but I feel like harmless words should be a way smaller priority than countries where it's totally legal to hurl gay guys off roofs.

People try to push modern feminism as being about unity, but if it was really about unity, the focus would be more on helping everyone everywhere attain basic human rights rather than on saving citizens of a far more equal, developed, and dare I say privileged nation a couple of bucks at the store.

It's like, I'm sorry that a girl got catcalled on her way to work. That sucks and you shouldn't be made to feel uncomfortable by some asshole. But that asshole is just an asshole and doesn't represent society as a whole. Considering that there are some countries where you'd be stoned to death for wearing yoga pants, I feel like we've got it pretty good here. Assholes will always be a problem, but stuff like that is small potatoes compared to legitimate actual evil and injustice that is being committed to this day elsewhere in the world.

Like, if someone wants to campaign for tampons and stuff like that, go for it, more power to em if that's what they're passionate about. But they need to stop doing it in the name of "women's rights", considering they're only helping women who already HAVE rights, while ignoring women who literally have NONE.

It's like if we had a charity that donated money to only able-bodied veterans instead of disabled ones. Like sure, show your support for the troops, but you're not really doing any good for the people who really need legitimate help.

>>83500349
>>83500362
/r/mensrights is that way.

>>83500406
It's bait folks, move along, nothing to see here.

>>83500406
Are you falseflagging to make feminists sound irrationally butthurt?

>>83500406
sorry you aren't a dude and you have to bleed like a retard every month

shit aint Captain America's fault tho, fuck off

>>83500454
What? can't debate a woman because you're afraid of losing?

>>83500406
here you go anon (You)

>>83500501
No, I was just taught it was mean to pick on the mentally handicapped.

>>83500459
>Are you falseflagging to make feminists sound irrationally butthurt?

This happens all the time, just look at GamerGate and the bile they spew.

Modern feminism is like a food drive for people who are in that category of "eh, I COULD eat, like, if you guys wanna go to Wawa, I'll get something I guess, I could go either way really", but ignores people who are actually legitimately starving.

>>83500399
>It's like if we had a charity that donated money to only able-bodied veterans instead of disabled ones.

It's kind of the opposite, really. When you say people shouldn't care about an issue because it's worse somewhere else, that'd be like saying that only disabled veterans should be helped, and we'll take care of the able bodied ones later. Taking care of the issues at home doesn't mean ignoring the other ones, and dealing with the other ones doesn't require ignoring the ones at home.

>>83500529
Are you saying women are mentally ill?

>>83499963
>should be a constant source of embarrassment and redicule

Ouch, why would you do that to people when it's part of their body they can't control?

>>83500459
People don't have to falseflag to do that.

>>83500604
Because it's funny

>>83500604
Well people make fun of retards too, and they're can't control it too.

>>83498287
What kind of moron thinks people want to talk about nasty biological stuff

I hope someone has a deep and intricate conversation about feces and rotting bodies and the dead next their eating

Seriously, fuck this writer, I hope they step on ALL THE LEGOS

>>83500668

Okay now you're just being mean.

>>83500578

Are you?

>>83500695
>I hope they step on ALL THE LEGOS
This is one of the most hateful things ever uttered on all of 4chan, what have you done?

>>83500573
Like I said, it's not like you can't have different kinds of problems, but if someone wants to focus on women's rights, you'd think they'd focus on giving ALL women rights.

People can work towards the small issues, but no one gives a shit about the REAL issues. Because fighting for women's rights in the middle east is a lot harder and requires a lot more dedication than signal-boosting hashtags and calling people shitlords on Tumblr.

Like, there was discrimination against Jews in America during WW2. And that's horrible, disgusting, a dark side of this nation in a troubled time.
But at the same time, there were Jews in Poland who had it way worse than "kids tossed pennies at me at school".

Like, suffering isn't invalidated by suffering of a greater magnitude, but one should CLEARLY be a bigger priority, and I don't understand why so many modern "activists" don't get this.

>>83500725
Boo hoo
You shouldn't call me mean, I can't control what I find funny. I was born this way.

>>83500501
You are obviously a male who is "funposting" though.

Ok so the official one not only was dumb and missed the (allegedly) point of Feminism, didn't fit with her character at all.

This fan fiction trash shows a character arc with highs and lows (instead of Bobbi just flat out stating a problem then magically solving-but-not-really, she shows up a problem and show us how to solve it) and that fits her character perfectly.

>>83498287

The worst part of this issue for me was how this teenage girl killed at least three guys and nobody seemed to care.

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>>83501246
yeah and it's not like men are canon fodder already in these comics, it takes a special kind of retard to still think that they are a victim when a man tries to protect them

>>83495625
Why wouldn't they?
It's what all the major news outlets said.

>>83498579
What the second page does give extra context
I don't have it sadly

>>83490910
>>83490939
I like this.

>>83499629
But women needing to pay for tampons isn't even an issue. So what, they need to pay for tampons like all other hygiene products. What's the problem? Should taxpayers have to pay for toothpaste and q-tips now? Is it a crime against humanity that people need to buy shampoo and soap? What is the fucking problem here? It's a complete non-issue and makes feminism look like a joke because they'll put way more time and effort into these kind of bullshit arguments rather than put it towards the more serious problems because of slacktivism.

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>>83497185
>The ethic of hard work is a far better lesson. There are a lot of people I've met who were praised for their intelligence, but when things evened out with their peers, they didn't know how to study or work hard--they just wondered why they suddenly felt stupid.

>tfw this is me to a T but I'm also male

I fucking wish people taught me to study and work hard instead of constantly praising me for my intelligence when I was little.

>>83501850
Huh? The concern there is a basic necessity like that being taxed as a luxury item. Many states don't put sales taxes on things like food and clothing, and there's a reasonable argument that something like this should fit that. There's also a push for trying to make sure something is available for people who can't afford them, since it's something that donation charities don't get enough of, but that's more of a separate matter, and still isn't anything like you're taking it as.

>>83490910
>>83494292
I am not only one who thinks that when spider bites were changed to sking cancer considering she was just exposed to radiation previous panel is funny, right?

>>83501850
This, really.

>>83501952
But it is a fucking luxury item. You can live without it. Hell, there are feminists that do the whole "free-bleeding" thing because they think tampons are a creation of the patriarchy and their periods are beautiful expressions of their womanhood. Tampons are literally treated the same as all other hygiene product, as they should be.

>>83498242
For some reason I feel like only exposure to the character creators of this comic had was Agents of Shield.

>>83501952
The few cents difference it makes are not the issue of course.
It's being taken as a symbol of a larger attitude because that's what fuels feminism, they need to be able to portray women as an oppressed class in order to justify their own existence.

>>83498287
Russia is so progressive, there is literally Russian show, that is just girls band promoting tampons.

Learn from Russia, America.

https://youtu.be/7t4rOhGH-mw

>>83498421
that was the last page, that was it, the comic as a whole, was blaming men that she couldn't be a super hero, That there were no female super heroes before her, even though you see Susan Richards lunch box. This whole book was about how unfair the world is to women, goes as far to victimize the villian and gives no fucks about the men the villian killed buy had time to save the middle school girls. If it had an agenda to push for equality, it did the exact opposite of that.

>>83502029
Jesus Christ. You are really butthurt for the sake of your state getting like $0.12 off of the sale of tampons.

And bear in mind, in the places where this concept of luxury items in sales tax exists, 20 pounds of shimp or a $500 leather jacket aren't typically "luxury items", and end up being except from sales tax as being "basic necessities" because they're food and clothing. There's obviously some room for criticism in such systems, and the idea that something like tampons should be considered a necessity might be disagreeable, but not outrageous.

>>83502029
Let's list things that are necessary to survive, but people pay money for them, I'll start: food.

>>83502127
Where I live, most foods are exempted from sales tax but clothing most definitely is not.

>>83502127
The fact there is a fucking movement because there is a $0.12 tax on tampons is what infuriates me.

>>83492011
It's actually an edit made by a ledditor, so please go away from Rich.

>>83500459
Feminists used to be about equality, now the 3rd wave is just about getting revenge in the 50s, I can say for a fact none of these women who are in their 20s to 30s never went through the trails of 50s 60s and 70s. Things have gotten better, not fully equal, but better and we will continue to get better until we are equal. However there is this false equivalence that the 3rd wavers put on themselves, they act as though the men of the past are here today, and expect the men of today to pay for the atrocities of the past.
These people are young and never had a life but inside a classroom. They are devoid of real world experience and social skills, and I am sure they would also blame that on the patiarchy.
If anything there is a lot of false flagging happening on both sides, but the ones who are getting their work published are falsflagging this generation of men for the past these female writers never lived in.

>>83502166
And where I live now, nothing is exempt. In other states, like PA, clothing is. It all varies.

>>83502127
Crunching the math using the price of name brand tampons not purchased in bulk and assuming the woman doubles up with a tampon and panty liner, also name brand, comes out to about $225 dollars paid in taxes on feminine hygiene products over a woman's lifetime. HuffPo's article on the cost of a woman's period had to add in a bunch of tangentially related items to make it look like a big deal.

>>83502276
3rd Wave is fucking dead. It died in the mid- to late-90s when girl power was co-opted by the mainstream as something to be commercialized. Current feminism more closely resembles post-2nd Wave shit from the 80s.

>>83500749
because it's a mix of guilt and spoiled activists unaware or purposely ignoring on the world they live in. They want to point the finger of blame on everybody else because they have hate for their own society for being successful from a dark past. They ignore events that led up to this point that tried to remedy the past but it's not enough. In some sense yes it wasn't enough, but logically speaking in a world of illogical people, what would you expect?
The issue boils down to now, spoiled activists have created their boogy man and so has their counter parts created their straw man of the activists.
It's no longer about the actual issue now, it's about name calling and controlling the current narritive of our current history.
This shit doesn't solve problems it creates more.

>>83502276
That's why I don't take "feminists" seriously as an adults. They are like 12 years olds who learned about global warming and got spooked and decided to become activists, except it's called a phase because you are supposed realize world doesn't depend on you and just pass on activism.

These fucking guys learned about history and about how things they never experienced were happening a century ago and they still kick and scream about something. English is not my first language, but at one point in time my country's people were literally slaves to Mongolians, you don't fucking see me demanding that all Mongolians kiss my feet the way Han was making his vassals. It's an embarassing point in the past of our history, but we are past that, that's why history lessons exist in school, so we would know the difference between then and now. And feminists aren't adults because they haven't passed that lesson in which they make a connection and realize then is not now.

>>83501850
well the thing is tampons are made for only those who have a vagina. The issue is men don't have to use them and women need them. So maybe a basic tampon supply by the government should hand those out, buy if women want better they have to buy brand trampons.

>>83502474
So because it's a hygiene product for women, that means the government should hand them out? Women don't need them any more than any other hygiene product.

>>83502474
Hormone injections are used only by transgenders, will they never be equal until those are free?

>>83502402
3rd wave is alive and well
its incredibly ignorant of its own actions. Where as 2nd wave is watching from the sidelines thinking these girls are fucking nuts and even insulted by their attempts to make the 2nd wavers trails and suffering their own.

Post the original second page, I need it.

>>83502474
Speaking as someone that's eaten government cheese, no. You don't want the state providing tampons.

>>83502518
those are not nessesary to actually be that gender in today's standards. Remember the whole a woman doesn't have to have a vagina to be a woman?

>>83502566
Same here, but that's what you get for a competing market that, when government is involved, should be a basic generic threshold. Government should only be there for the basic nessesities. I don't have a vagina, so if women says they need it, then give it to them. Only to a certain logical point that is.

>>83502474

How about just not letting hygiene products that women need be taxed?

>>83502432
There was this short story I read in college about a black woman thinking of giving this historical blanket of the civil war to a museum or keeping it because it's hers. Her grand daughter or daughter I forget was saying it belong to her generation because it symbolized what her people went through, buy she phrased it in such a way that it was her who suffered during the Civil war and not her ancestors.

>>83499999
WASTED

>>83502539
>Where as 2nd wave is watching from the sidelines thinking these girls are fucking nuts and even insulted by their attempts to make the 2nd wavers trails and suffering their own.

Tumblr feminism is some straight up Dworkin shit and more closely resembles 80s sex-negative feminism and 70s political feminism. Exclusionary safe spaces come directly from second-wave as does political lesbianism, the anti-porn movement, and the concept of the male gaze and heteronormativity. Like I said, what we're seeing now more closely resembles what we got in the 80s, which was a different beast compared to the economic focus that dominated the 60s and 70s. While you'll some things taken from 3rd wave, most notably the concept of intersectionality and queer feminism, the moralizing and and sex-negative narratives look exactly like the 80s when NOW and the Moral Majority aligned on social issues.

>>83502664
You can't have something for nothing, giving a generic version away for the amount you would tax a brand tampon, So you would just pay the tax of the tampon, because like other anons said, it's a luxury, but it needs to be produced.

>>83502772
Ok fair enough, but since those days are long gone and the accumulation of modern time ideals wouldn't you say this is the 3rd wave? It takes the worst from the 2nd wave and adds more to it especially thanks to modern times.

>>83490910
>Americans caring about Eurovision

>>83490939
>if they're so smart why can't they cure cancer and stop hunger
Noto disu shito agen.

>>83494868
>i'm going solely on the 1 page bc we can't keep expanding to "Gotta wait for the first 6 issues to judge"
This is the beginning of issue 3, which has been storytimed half a dozen times already.

>>83490939
If she loves medical puzzles so much, then why the fuck wouldn't she cure the cancer?

>>83498820
It's a joke you dip.
This >>83498287 is an edit.

This is not the /pol/ board, you dipfucks, stop pushing your agendas and post something that has something to do with the thread topic, or better yet: don't post at all.

>>83498984
No the joke is that sexists think feminists are angry because they can't talk about female hygiene.
It's a shit joke based on a strawman but I'm surprised it flies over so many people's heads, even out of context.

>>83502920
but the whole comic is pushing an agenda, we are talking about the comic.

>>83491676
It's poorly formatted, but it should read like "And knowing who to kill and who to let live: THAT had no easy answers."

>>83494694
Even a dumb kid would have seen Sue Storm, Marvel Girl, and Wasp on the fucking news every day at the dawn of superheroes.

>>83502831
Third wave is widely considered to have started with the riot grrrl movement in 1991. That's not really true but it gives a concise date rather than a vague set of years in the late 80s/early 90s. The DIY/punk aspects of third wave got commercialized heavily and that led to its splintering and decline by the end of the decade. If I had to define where we're at currently, I'd go with post-third wave much like how I'd describe the 80s as post-second wave.

>>83502963
>we are talking about the comic.
Not really though, you're using out of context panels of a comics you have not read (not saying it's a good comic in any way, but bear with me) as an excuse to post about gamergate and feminists and tumblr and whathaveyous. It's not even clever anymore, you do it every time there's even a slight chance of something in comics that could go off-topic and allow you to bring up that discussion fucking again.

It's like if there was a thread made by anti-gun fags every time Frank franks a guy.

>>83490939
>"When Italy wins the Eurovision"
Fucking kek and a half

>>83503022
Bobbi is more than likely older than Cyclops and Johnny Storm. She's also more than likely older than Jean Grey and Wasp.

>>83490939
>>83491676
Correct answer: there's always another way.

>>83503042
the whole comic was posted last night I read the whole thing, the whole thing was shallow padantic gibberish. Don't act so arrogant as to think we don't read the comic.

>>83502922
Maybe it flies over peoples heads because the modern feminism movement has so many demands ranging from simple and understandable to the enslavement of all men, that it's impossible to tell whats a straw man now.

>>83502922
Current feminists are sexist though

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>>83490910
Am I the only one still expecting the Punisher to come out and just fucking shoot all this SJW shit in the face and everything returns to normal?

>>83503120
yeah because that wouldn't do that, it would only create martyrs for the cause.

>>83503060
Character age is nebulous and fluid in comics, but let's assume that she was somehow a teen when Johnny Storm and Thor went public so she could have them as rolemodels...

Mockingbird debuted as an adult woman in 1971 and became a superhero in 1976, so the original lineups of the F4, X-Men, and Avengers predate her. Even Scarlet Witch (as an Avenger) and Polaris do...though Storm didn't show up 'til 75.

>>83503098
It's great that you disagree with the only part of my post that doesn't matter. Besides given that many anons itt couldn't even tell the edited panels/pages from the real ones, I think you might be the exception to the rule.
>we

>>83503120

Here is something for you.

https://imagecomics.com/comics/releases/bitch-planet-vol-1-extraordinary-machine-tp

>>83503120
Being wrong and/or idiot is not a crime, so he doesn't care.

>>83503138
Maybe this is just one of Franklin's pocket universes
>>83503174
Please, I can only get so disappointed.

>>83503106
It's pretty easy to tell when the declaration comes from the TV station where Dick Profit is the star and the other news crawls read things like "super-powered teenaged girl goes hysterical" and "scientist says women aren't fit for elected power". It's a strawman statement in a sea of strawman statements.

>>83503147
because you are partly right, it doesn't take much for people in /co/ to go off topic, buy in this thread it's on point with this comic. It's an unrionic satire of itself. Victimizing it's self and half the population of the world. Litterally in the crawl text of the TV in other pages it says "women are crazy" just to fuel that Fem rage.

>>83503060
>>83503143
It's not Johnny it's the original Human Torch you turbo-casuals.

>>83503143
Johnny Storm and Peter Parker are the same age, and Pete has canonically been Spider-Man since he was 15. Pete's age was given as 32 pre-OMD and post-OMD he's been nebulously late 20s. At the time Mockingbird debuted she already had a PhD and was a SHIELD agent while Pete was an undergrad in college. Even with the nebulous character ages she'd have to have at least half a decade on Spider-Man, the Human Torch, the O5 X-Men, and a year or two on Wasp.

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>>83503022
>Sue Storm, Marvel Girl, and Wasp
>at the dawn of superheroes

Let's not pretend these ladies were empowering during the Silver Age...

>>83494493
What would they even do that could affect tabletop gaming?

It's not like other kinds of media where the consumer NEEDS new content on a regular basis. The moment a sourcebook comes out with content players don't like in it, they just don't buy the new edition and continue playing the one they already play.

That's the entire reason Pathfinder exists, people who had grown accustomed to D&D 3.5 didn't want to upgrade to 4th edition, they just wanted to keep playing something like 3.5

>>83503264
guys don't have this happen to them? I remember peter being bullied because of what he was wearing, even people called his costume style butt ugly. style it self isn't genderspecific.

>>83503264
Not relevant. Kids don't know what the athletes and celebrities they look up to are saying and doing when they're not on TV.

Sue Storm and Wasp were on TV every single time the F4 and Avengers were, therefore every young girl growing up at the dawn of the Marvel Age had highly visible female superhero rolemodels.

>>83498242
Can't beleive this is being taken seriously by anyone. It's a hilarious jab at retards who think sexism is still a big problem. (It's now a little problem, there's so much less sexism that sane people are over it.)

>>83503216
>buy in this thread it's on point with this comic
Not really. Easily more than half of the posts are generic statements about feminism and tampons rather than the actual content of the comic.

>It's an unrionic satire of itself. Victimizing it's self and half the population of the world. Litterally in the crawl text of the TV in other pages it says "women are crazy" just to fuel that Fem rage.
Yeah it's definitely an awful comic written extremely clumsily, but that has little to do with its message and more to do with how terribly it delivers it.
But here we're mostly discussing the (assumed) message. Which I guess is something that comes up when discussing fiction, but I wish it didn't so much, because there's really not much to discuss there beyond every anon assessing their moral ideals, which really doesn't have that much to do with the piece of fiction itself.

But hey, I guess I can only blame whoever was the fuckhead who wrote this book for putting their message before quality writing.

>>83503226
Then Marvel needs to be consistent about Hammond's facial features being obscured by his flames, the one defining feature they use to distinguish him from Johnny while they're on fire. It also doesn't change the fact that Bobbi should have been around college age when the modern Marvel timeline started.

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>>83503226
60's Johnny and Hammond look identical and the scene is anachronistic because Cyclops is wearing his 1980's X-Factor costume, I don't want to hear your "but muh Invaders!" bullshit

>>83503325
Not really. Easily more than half of the posts are generic statements about feminism and tampons rather than the actual content of the comic.

the comic literally says sexism is over now let's talk tampons in the crawl space.
The writer makes so many mistakes it shows her lack of education on telling a story, or some one was feeding her lines.

>>83503280
People play Pathfinder because they're either deluded about it fixing problems with 3.5 or they love playing casters. People who wanted to keep playing something like 3.5 kept playing 3.5. Also tabletops already dealt with this shit back in the 80s with BADD and the satanic panic and the early 90s when White Wolf started releasing stuff.

>>83503304
Concerns over fashion tended to come up way more often when female characters were concerned, at the exclusion of more important issues. Which honestly is sort of realistic, it's just that writing female superheroes as caring more about their social life than superheroing comes off a bit dickish.

>>83503305
Yes, the women who can respectively become invisible and microscopic were highly visible role models for girls...

>>83503377
Peter Parker's whole character is "I hate the way superheroing cuts into my social life".

Marvel characters are SUPPOSED to be written dickishly.

>>83503316
This particular instance is a joke (although I don't think you actually got it), but the book is filled with so many unironic feminist statements that it's a bit hard to tell what's satire and what isn't.
I mean shit, Bobbi here is being smug about preventing the police from shooting a girl who had killed 3 guys (at least 1 intentionally).

>>83503330
Nigga they gave Cyclops 2 eyes, you're asking for too much here.

>>83503399
Yeah, they used their powers at the end of the fight when news crews showed up ALL the time.

Nigga do you even know what the F4's origin story is? Reed turned the team into the 60's version of god damned reality show celebutantes specifically so that they'd be too publicly visible for the government to make them disappear and experiment on.

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>>83503377
This is true in the earlier days of comics, buy if a woman so much as says anything about her personal life specifics, people get up in arms over it stating, oh she is a woman so she must blah blah blah. Not thinking she is a fictional woman with her own specific likes and dislikes. The problem is people need to stop selfinserting themselves into these characters that have their own personality.

>>83503409
Nah, I read the whole thing and I'm convinced it can't be serious. It's ridiculous. I don't know anything about the author though, if you told me (she?) is a feminist in real life I'd be convinced that it's not just a 30 page joke.

>>83503372
>the comic literally says sexism is over now let's talk tampons in the crawl space.
Yes and no, as explained before that's a strawman, not an author statement, which should be obvious to anyone with basic pattern recognition.
It would be more interesting to talk about how Bobbi chose to save that girl's life despite her straight-up killing a cop than about a shitty one-off joke.

You know, when you actually stop and think about it, the women of Marvel tend to be more powerful than the men.

Yeah Cyclops exists but he exists on a team with Storm, Emma Frost, and Jean Grey. Wolverine can be beaten by Shadowcat. She-Hulk has control over her powers in a way Hulk can only dream of. Sue Storm can kill anything that requires oxygen with barely any effort at all. Carol has all the powers of Sentry but none of the psychoses. Hell Monica Rambeau is an even bigger game breaker.

And that's the problem. This brand of feminism is so concerned with fighting the good fight they don't even realize when they're WINNING.

>>83503422
I love the notion that despite being a borderline autist Reed can social engineer like a motherfucker.

"Whelp, we all got superpowers due to a failed science experiment, better start a Fortune 500 R&D company with cross-media franchises and name branding."

>>83503403
>Peter Parker's whole character is "I hate the way superheroing cuts into my social life".
Not really, there's also, you know, all the actual superheroing. Besides he actually has a social life beyond just wanting to go shopping.
>Marvel characters are SUPPOSED to be written dickishly.
You obviously haven't read a lot of silver-age stuff.

>>83503451
>Yes and no, as explained before that's a strawman, not an author statement, which should be obvious to anyone with basic pattern recognition.

It is author who is writing it, it's her narrative that she is painting the mockingbird world in, of course it's a statement.

>>83503444
Sure but literally all the silver age Marvel women had the same concern, and really mostly that one concern: boys. They all had the same likes and dislikes because they were all written by Stan Lee.
The issue here is not that there was a couple of vapid bitches, it's that they're all vapid bitches, and that's just not interesting, not any more than telenovela which portrays all men as sex-crazed assholes.

>>83503446
Honestly if it is it's pretty good, like with many good parodies you can't really tell it's a parody.
But I think that's wishful thinking on your part that people can't be this stupid.

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>>83502891
>this is an edit
You wish.

>>83498820
>that demon trying to light a cannon to fire at jesus

>>83503508
The argument of whether or not they were likeable characters or suitable rolemodels for girls in the REAL world is irrelevant.

What matters is there were numerous very public, very celebrity superwomen at the dawn of the Marvel Age. A scenario in which a teenaged girl grew up seeing Thor on TV but no one with a vagina doing the same things as him to the same amount of publicity is literally impossible.

>>83503446
Are you familiar at all with Poe's Law?

>>83503489
I'm taken aback by your lack of comprehension.
Do you not know what a strawman is and how they represent the opposite of the authors ideas?

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>>83502563
There you go.

>>83503534
This is your first rodeo? The rules are that if you get proven wrong you move the goalposts until you're temporarily right again.

>>83503534
I agree that they were good enough role models for Bobbi, but that's kind of besides the point I was discussing.

>>83503446
Not even 30 pages. 22 and almost nothing happens.

>>83503555
Believing there are goalposts to move is a choice.

The argument is "Sue, Wasp, and Jean debuted at the same time Thor and Cyke did, the scene is impossible", The End.

>>83490939
>I watched enough hentai to know where this is going

Yeah... "Fixed"

>>83503528
I don't remember that from when I read it. My bad.

>>83503555
Stop acting like you're being persecuted, you're not on tumblr you giant faggot.

>>83494514
>this is fine


kek

>>83503544
>things still suck
yeah I wish I lived underwater with my own secret base and have a PhD.
Jesus it's like they don't look around and see what they have, even in imaginary land the think of shit they don't have.

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>>83503573
Do you remember the unrelenting boisterous reporter that interfered with the rescue attempts, shouting his news network WOULD NOT BE DENIED and reminded the audience of his name every 5 minutes? Said name being DICK PROFIT?

>>83503604
Kind of hard to forget.

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>>83503604
>dat ticker

>>83503544
It seems to me it's not that fantasy women aren't nonexistent, the real issue is that women super heroes aren't enjoyed as much by men and that's why it's sexist. Pretty much "you don't like what I like so you are sexist." That's the underlining narrative I'm getting here.

>>83491573
This hacker known as GamerGate is truly the worst menace of our time.

>>83491170
Woman name Chelsea Chin I think.

>>83503675
nvm the edit I don't know

>>83503528
>>83503604
>>83503631
There's no way this is real. Someone fucking tell me this is fake. These are even worse than the first two pages. The guy's name is Dick Profit for fuck's sake, no sensible person could have ever decided on that for a name. Jesus, even the news ticker is strawmanning so hard it makes Dobson seem rational.

Also, is it bad that the Groot pop figure is what angers me the most out of this?

>>83503716
Marvel is lost

>>83503528
But why the fuck would society talk about tampon ? No one cares about this ! Use tampon or pad or whatever the fuck you want, it is a personnal matter, not a public matter.

>>83503648
>It seems to me it's not that fantasy women aren't nonexistent
Too many negatives, work on your grammar.

>>83503544
I wonder why the unedited original took so long to get posted

>>83503716
>Also, is it bad that the Groot pop figure is what angers me the most out of this?
Not Howard the Duck being apparently an applejuice mascot?

>>83503760
NEVER!

>>83503593
But anon, the only thing imaginary in this picture is her.

>>83503999
Whuuuuuuuuaaaaaaat?

>>83503528
So she flat out kills a dude just trying to help because it kind of looks like she's a jumper (unless in the next page somebody catches him)

Why do I feel that she's not going to be a villain and just "misguided"


I was feeling optimistic about the first two pages OP posted too but then I had to read the rest of the thread

>>83490910
Will they redo the [unsolicited opinions on Israel] one?

>MFW I'm a DC Fag
>The worst I'll have to experience is Prez, Birds of Prey, and Batgirl
>Prez even ain't half bad since there's none of that Males are Evil Bullshit
>Batgirl is legit terrible though but it's okay since Babs was always a shit character
>Realize that BoP could ruin Helena and further damage Black Canary

BoP is gonna be good right? I mean Jew Nose Batgirl aside?

>>83503778
Because I just joined the thread. Look up the link to the CBR in the Win-O and check for yourself.

I actually wanted to buy the issue myself, just so I could frame it and prove trat it physically exists. Haven't found a seller yet, because
>giving Malrvel money vier this

>>83490910
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>83504124
Bobbi catches him. She still killed 3 other dudes, arguably intentionally.
>Why do I feel that she's not going to be a villain and just "misguided"
Because that's exactly he treatment she's given in this comic, including "teenagers are just a bit stupid" narration boxes.

>>83504159
well teenagers are a bit stupid.

>>83504124
I think it's more hilarious that she nearly kills him over a juice box.

>>83504151
Honestly the whole "Males are Evil Bullshit" isn't even in the top 10 problems of current Marvel imo.
Books that don't have it are just marginally not-as-terrible. Even shit /co/ praises like Awesome Hulk, Gwenpool and Contest of Champions are pretty trash.

Too bad almost nothing DC is appealing to me, I'm just stuck not reading modern shit at all.

>>83503648
But you don t win fans if the characters are seen as whining soapboxes. They aren't characters, they're a means for the writer to try and earn some brownie points. Even points that are actually quite moral sound awful when coming from the mouth of an idiot.

There's a big reason people like Ms. Marvel but don't like Lady Thor, and it's because of pages like "I'll let you win today because girl power!"

>>83504171
Well yeah but that's no excuse for murder.
The girl literally says "you can't shoot me, I'm a kid", and then they don't.

>>83504124
This guy gets caught by Bobbi in time. Later, the girl crashes the news helicopter and Bobbi is too late. She then more or less allows the girl to kill another guy, Dick Profit and a policeman by draining their haemoglobin (she's got some kind of rainbow powers, so she extracts everything red from them).

>>83504197
>But you don t win fans if the characters are seen as whining soapboxes.
Debatable considering Whor is the best selling Marvel female book.

>There's a big reason people like Ms. Marvel but don't like Lady Thor
Again Whor sells much better than Kamala and arguably has more fans.

>>83504223
This might just be the most horrifying news I've seen in the entire thread

>>83504207
it's like pushing a the janitor because he can't defend himself.

>>83504223
it's best selling because people want to know why she can lift the hammer and not real thor.

>>83504262
Nigga it's been more than a year, who buys 12 fucking issues of a book for a shit answer to a dumb question that they have no guarantee is actually coming?
That's like expecting Cap Steve Rogers to hold its sales because of the same reasons, it won't.

>>83491996
I don't go to reddit but what the hell is that subreddit?

>>83504197
the thing is the narrative, soapbox women want to preach women are better.
When asked how, sexism is yelled back as a response.
Some women think men become great because they are men, that's it, our y chromosome made us great no matter what.
These stories that are written are proven far from that narritive, with the struggle or the journey to become great.
The current generation of obtuse feminists, feel that women should great with no effort, no struggle, so hence Girl power is their instant win button.
This is why a lot feminists are terrible writers. They can't stand to see the female weak, or struggle, buy to any reader that is the most exciting part.

>>83504335
same thing with superior spider man, people were wondering how the status quo was going to return. The actual writing to SSM was genuinely awful.

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>>83500275

Don't worry dude, SJWs love D&D, it's totally safe.

http://www.polygon.com/2014/7/9/5882509/dungeons-and-dragons-gender-sexuality

I ran a year-long campaign for some a few years back. Friends of friends that were brought in to make up the numbers. It was a pretty fun time. They got more invested in the game than most of my groups, and for the most part were fun people to play with. For the most part. One of them was a complete fucking That Guy.

>>83504363
But many people enjoyed SSM and read it for other reasons that your assumption.
I've never read it so I can't comment on the actual quality but it's pretty obvious some people genuinely enjoyed it and weren't in a 2 year or so ride for something they could have picked up (return to status quo) once that plot was done.

You can't use Spidey readers for those arguments anyway, I'm convinced they have Stockholm syndrome at this point.

>>83499619
The "pink tax" is retarded hyperbole.

>>83504404
I am a spidey reader. It's not that we have Stockholm syndrome it's more like we've become institutionalized. We free men no more. Yes other people read and enjoyed the comic, but in the end it all came down to how it was going to end because this crazy ride wasnt slowing down.

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>>83499510
>Like, there's the Mad Max: Fury Road "we're actually kicking ass and fighting legitimate evil" kind of feminism, and then there's the Marvel Comics "I've got a trendy haircut and an obligatory gay best friend, we're going to spout memes and do nothing of consequence while lecturing strawmen on millenial gender politics" kind of feminism.

This. You can defend the political views but you can't defend the writing, it's hot garbage.

A talented storyteller can an outright propaganda piece done well. Even if the political message is appalling.

Marvel however is just doing stream of consciousness soapboxing, happy to disregard any complaints about it's drop in quality as purely politically motivated.

>>83499619

Because they're taxed as if they're a luxury item rather than a necessity.

>>83504489
but TP is a nessestiy

>>83504124
>So she flat out kills a dude just trying to help
He was seemingly patronizing her in a way that lightly referenced her gender..

That's a crime punishable by death.

>>83490910
Why the fuck would you show a lazer helmet to a home ec teacher?

>>83504507

Yeah, and it's taxed as such. My point was that period shit is a necessity, not a luxury.

>>83504507
necessity*

>>83504507
Neither tampons or toilet paper are necessary, you can walk around with a muddy butt or a bloody vag if you want, our ancestors did.

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>>83490910
#Currentyearcomics

>>83504523
if you want to be a jobless smelly hobo yeah

Honestly I think that a large majority "feminists" are closer to marxists and communists than actual feminists.

>>83504342
The GamerGate subreddit initially, but then it became a general anti-SJW subreddit when GamerGate died down.

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>>83504531
>literally censoring a strawman to make your point

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>>83504542

>>83504523

They're both completely necessary, doing that isn't just gross, it's infectious and unhealthy.

Don't believe femine hygiene shit is a necessity? Go search "freebleeding" on Tumblr, because that shit is the alternative.

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>>83504562
Only non-marvel I have.

>>83504560
>draw 3 character poses
>"yep, that's a page"

>>83495245
nothing, these cunts don't care they went after video games now its comics, but we can stop it now by standing up to these cunts by not buying this regressive shit

>>83503528
>What's so scary about twelve-year old girls?
>They're shape-shifters.
>Not quite one thing or another.
>How can we have a meaningful dialogue with adolescent girls when we live in a culture that still can't talk about tampons?
>It's weird right?

if you remove the 4th textbox this actually flows a bit from one to the other, the "tampon" one just seems jammed in there.

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>>83504580

>tampon
>jammed in there

>>83504560
this page still triggers me, I'm not gay but I have had gay friends and their life was hell for jean to not only out iceman but to read his mind too. fuck the bitch.

>>83495245
You were born with a Y-chromosome.

What the fuck is there to talk about tampons? Imagine me fucking waltzing in
>"HEY LEADIES, ARE YOU ON YOUR PERIOD? DID YOU NOT FORGET TO STICK THOSE THINGS INTO YOUR VAGANYAS?!"
I'd be called sexist and/or sex offender by women in the first place.

>>83504482
>A talented storyteller can an outright propaganda piece done well. Even if the political message is appalling.
Good example pic, I believe some nazi propaganda movies had a big influence in cinema too (as did American WW2 propaganda cartoons on cartoons), independantly of the message being delivered.

On that note Mickingbird isn't the most terrible cape comic I've read, but it's really not even trying to be good.

>>83504558
I remember freebleeding introduced to tumbler by /b/ as a kind of way to gauge intelligence on that site, like the later #baldforBieber thing. We thought we'd be called lunatics, but they flogged to it like sharks to literal blood.

>>83504515
Because she's a girl so they only teach her home ec. I know that sounds retarded but that's the only explanation that even makes half sense.

>>83504531
To be fair that's a bit funny, at least they captured the strawman well with the references to red pilling and bringing up Israël/jews into conversations that have nothing to do with it.

Although to be fairer this whole thing is an unsolicited opinion on gender roles, which makes it a bit ironic.

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>>83491996
>One of their posts

>Marvel used to be different

They sure did.

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>>83504612

Please please please tell me you're shitting me.

>>83504537
>no true Scottswoman

>>83497686
That's not a female hero, anon?

>>83504537
The want equality of outcome rather than equality of opportunity.

>>83504537
you have no idea what marxism or communism represent then.

>>83502566
>the tampons are just repackaged toilet paper rolls

>>83504659
Don't kick that ant-hill anon, just let it be.

>>83502518

They're free in my country.

>>83503086
Go away Kyle.

>>83504646
No. Our carelessness and neglect helped our nemesis to draw new strength.

>>83504612
Wow, so I have /b/ to blame that some chick threw her tampon at me saying that freebleed crap.

>>83504646
Google "free bleeding 4chan", it's true.

Another good one was operation bikini gap. I swear half of modern feminism is hoaxes that somehow got taken seriously by keyboard warriors.

>>83504659
I don't think it's a majority of feminists are marxists, but a great many subscribe to similar ideas and even use genders as a substitute for class conflict.

>>83504537
lol who the fuck do you think created feminism?

>>83504682
How did that happen?

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>>83504643
Just imagine if that panel showed up in a Marvel book these day.

>>83504691
Enlighten us, Anon. Was it the jews, perchance?

>>83504702
It would be described as 'invalidation' or some similar concept of not pedaling the victim narrative.

The thing I hate most about this stuff is that it's gonna be responsible for a generation of reactionaries.

>>83504717
You mean people reacting to bullshit?

>>83504694
When I say some chick I mean my sister.
I tell her that you shouldn't blindly follow and believe all this shit that's on tumblr and she should have a clue and think for yourself. She later threw her tampon at me while I was in the shower. And said that tampons were made by the patriarchy.

>>83504700
It is a very CANTWAKEUP.jpg feel.

>>83504739

Yes. And it's gonna escalate and it's gonna get ugly and it's just going to divide people up even more.

Why the hell do you think Trump might be the next president?