Ok, what's with Bendis using Thanos (and a fucking Celestial

We need new major villains

>>83419781
Even Star-Lord could handle him alone. Thanos is a joke nowadays.

>>83419876
Star-lord is the third closest friend Thanos has, he wouldn't hurt him anyway.

>>83419836
Yes, but the second a writer tries to do something like that people start complaining about "OCs."

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it's a name casuals recognize, this event is primarily aimed at new readers

the whole comic is filled with shit from the films

Storytime? I missed it yesterday

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Why the fuck is Starlord on Earth

>>83420169
So he can interact with your favorite characters like Luke Cage, Jessica Jones, and Carol Danvers

>>83420169

same as why are fucking guardians of the galaxy included in this joke, because GotG are a hot property right now

>>83420169
Because Bendis.

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>>83420137
I'm not OP, but I'll story time it

Fair warning this a pretty stupid issue, and it tries to come off as smarter than it really is.

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>>83420487

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>>83420508

>>83420487
The #0 issue is way more guilt of that. Like She-Hulk's speech on entrapment

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>>83420520

>>83420508
my dad named his dog ulysses

man I really hated this first issue, fucking Bendis

>>83419781
>Isn't it established that Thanos is a threat well beyond the Avengers can handle?

Thanos has conventionally been worth about 2 to 2 and a half Thors. (He shamed the Annihilators, but Starlin was writing that and most of them are huge jobbers anyway.) The stronger lineups of the Avengers should be able to handle him, if he's not using some form of external omnipotence.

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>>83420542
>>83420531
to be fair it is Bendis, I'm sure it will constantly try to be greater than it's sums

>>83420545
Ulysses is a good name, I preferred the Ulysses from DC comics, he was a better character than this bland piece of shit

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>>83420608

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>>83420629

>>83420608
>Ulysses is a good name, I preferred the Ulysses from DC comics, he was a better character than this bland piece of shit
Sure thing Shanequazon

>>83419957
>Star-lord is the third closest friend Thanos has

Who's the second closest? Pip the Troll?

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>>83420675

>>83420520
>Royal family is all warm and inviting while beast looks like an asshole
>reader not looking the right way
>Iso given more importance than the rest of the nuhuman

I kinda like that page

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>>83420702

>>83420565
Bendis is really godawful at events. They bring out the very worst in him.

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>>83420729

>>83420520
>We're the Inhumans.
>What do you mean you've never heard of us?
>C'mon man we're cool.

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>>83420753

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>>83420653
>Shanequazon

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>>83420801

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>>83420822

>>83420520
>At that point Ulysses see the entire Civil war in a vision and decide to kill himself to prevent it from happening

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>>83420836

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>>83420853

>>83419781
The real Thanos was killed by Doom in Secret Wars. That was just a fraction of Thanos real power.

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>>83420866

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>>83420904
due to convenience of plot Jean can't read his mind

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Does Bendis want to fuck kitty pryde?

>>83420754
I'd love to see Marvel have a deal with Fox to get the X-Men movie rights back, just so the comics have to double back on all of their Inhumans wanking. It would be funny to watch.

>>83420836
Is it me or Medusa kind of look like Famke Janssen in the first panel ?

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>>83420970

>>83420954
No, he wants to be Kitty Pryde and fuck Peter.

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>>83421024

>>83420954
Who doesn't? Every person who write her wants to make her special in some way.

The guy who gave her ninja training, the guy who gave her a dragon, Bendis, even Aaron Diaz.

She's perfect because she's basically normal. You could take anyone you had a crush on in your teenage years and self-insert them into her.

>>83420999
>No, he wants to be Kitty Pryde and fuck Luke Cage.

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>>83421057
>coalburning
>kitty

why did you put that image in my head

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>>83421104

>>83421024
Tony's not arguing well at all. Yes of course they should stop the Hulk, but why lock him up? Just have him watch the DON'T DATE ROBOTS! video from Futurama.

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>>83421056
>she's basically normal.

>jew
>normal

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>>83421142

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>>83421057
This. At his heart Bendis wishes that he was a little teenage Jewish girl being seduced by a big black guy instead of an out of shape middle-aged Jewish guy.

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>the best art wasted on this event
Christ.

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>>83421235

>>83421072
fucking Johnny Storm.

jesus christ how low can you go after your divorce, women.

>>83419836
>wanting OCs
Fuck off, Hickman. No one wants new characters.

It still makes no sense at all.

Them fighting Thanos had nothing to do with 'morality' like he was going on about earlier, and it wasn't the kids fault since thanos actually was coming to break shit and the superheroes fought him like they would any other supervillain.
And they even won and managed to catch Thanos with minimal loss of life which is impressive.

The only plausible explanation for anything is that Tony is sperging out simply because his friend died in the course of duty like he could any other superbattle and he's lashing out wildly looking for others to blame.
Is he meant to be feeling guilty because suddenly the Warmachine armour which has been rebuilt and upgraded by multiple different people over Rhodey's super career is meant to be shit?

I'm sick of comic book events that only happen because half the room take idiot pills

>Carol: Hey kid wanna tell the future for me
>Tony: Carol we know nothing about this and it could lead to some serious ethical dilemmas and may not even be 100% accurate or trustworthy
>Carol: Pfft fuck you nerd

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>>83421304

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>>83421335

>>83421305
Yeah, comicbooks are terrible especially when it comes to neverending comicbook universes, their romances are generally worse than daytime soap operas and because writers love cheap drama everyone ends up banging everyone else.

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>>83421246
>no Songbird
>no Moonstone

>>83421172
Better then Carol, who has no response to Tony's arguement aside from sticking up her nose and continuing to believe she's right.

>>83420822
>>83420836
I like that Homer was waiting for Medusa in the kitchen like the good waifu he is.

>>83421329
well it is shit, its about 10 to 15 generations behind his current armor and he simply never upgraded it for him.

>>83421330
except the crux is the Thanos fight and had nothing to do with Morality, all of it was true and the kids predictions doesn't factor in, only "Tony's Friend is deD!"

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>>83421395

>>83420801
>shitting on Hellstrom
Was this really necessary?

>>83421395

>tony goes full retard

bendis does it again

>>83421395
thats not how it works, Tony.

>>83421182
In the sense that she's the plain girl who you always saw in high school. The one who you were total bros with, but were too much of a pussy to ask her on a date.

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>>83421430

>>83421235
>it went FUBAR
>it just did

wow Hill really showing off her hardline millitary professionalism and training there.

>>83421246
>Fraction's response
>Yost's response

Not even mad.

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>>83421475

>>83421475
i'm not sure how this is playing god, Tony.

your irrational.

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>>83421404

>>83421443
Bendis does it all the time, both randomly have characters talk shit about other heroes out of nowhere and write characters in a terrible fashion.

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>>83421465
>I'm 41 now
>I had this opportunity

So is Civil War worth reading?

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>>83419977
Dubs can see into the future, for example: >>83421319

>>83421246
>Frank Cho's answer
wow

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>>83421525

>>83421304
>Punished Carol

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>>83421579

>>83421479
Really, it hardly was Fucked Up Beyond All Recognition when only two teammembers died and they managed to stop the guy and take him into custody.

And bendis is a hack, this is especially well known in relation to any form of dialogue.

>>83421544
Maybe for the threads shitposting about. It hasn't gotten unreadably bad and if you aren't familiar with characters you wont be effected by how put of character they are.

>>83421537
Remember the time he had Tony Stark shittalk Captain Britian?

>>83421533
>this was made before the Hydra Cap reveal
kek

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>>83421607

>>83421246

fucking bendis

>>83421056
>The guy who gave her ninja training, the guy who gave her a dragon, Bendis, even Aaron Diaz.

Even Warren Ellis, who you would expect to be above blatant waifu-ing, had her fall for his self-insert.

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>>83421633

>>83421544
The original? I guess?

It gets pretty political, though. I suppose the reason they made such a milquetoast reason for a war this time is to make sure people don't twist Bendis' original message.

>>83421559
He's not wrong.

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>>83421633
>>83421607
>no Thunderbolts
?????

>>83421475
So what exactly is his master plan?

Fly off and murder a kid that had nothing to do with his boyfriend dying doing their usual superhero thing?

>>83420169
Same reason why they weren't there to prevent Thanos attack.

>>83421544
>So is Civil War worth reading?
Read this instead.
http://mightygodking.com/i-dont-need-your-civil-war/

>>83421479
>wow Hill really showing off her hardline millitary professionalism and training there.

What the fuck is she even doing there and not serving time for crimes against human rights and the integrity of reality itself?

>>83421655
Who was Ellis's self-insert?

>>83420954
Who doesn't.

>>83421246
He would be right at home at /a/.

>>83421770
Pete Wisdom

>>83421737
All events exist in a vaccuum. Their separate books don't really care about continuity changes unless they are shoved in their face.

In this case, Bendis is above continuity. He is the alpha and the omega in Marvel.

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>>83421056
>Celestial empowered mutant
>normal

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>>83421716
>http://mightygodking.com/i-dont-need-your-civil-war/
my negus

How long for She-Hulk and Rhodey to come back alive? I give it 18 months post CW2

>>83421770
Peter Wisdom

>>83421707
I heard he's just going to kidnap him so that no one else can hear about the bad things that Ulysses sees and then stop them.

Which is still totally a supervillain thing to do.

>>83421866
Consider that she's easily the most human-looking mutant. Then you've got Diaz's redesigns that make her the ONLY passably human X-Man.

>>83421886
Well if you're reading International Ironman they seem to be trying to fit in a new War Machine, or her name may be Iron Maiden. It's more Bendis crap though

>>83421886
She-Hulk isn't even dead; Brevoort played coy on her. She's "critical condition".

Rhodey will probably stay dead until either his next movie appearance or a writer who cares about him wants to use him.

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how is this okay

>>83422028
Fucking hell.

>>83421612
Well, to be fair, no matter how crazy or world ending things get, superhero fights tend to be next to zero in terms of casualties on their side.

For two to die in one fight would be pretty bad, relatively.

>>83422028
It's justified by the fact that people will still buy it at that price. CAPITALISM!

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>>83422028
Disgusting

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There are plenty of precognitive people on the planet already

In that group shot you've got Cable who's a fucking time traveler

This doesn't feel like it should be as big a deal as they're making it.

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>>83421452
This is an event, everyone's going full retard

>>83422028
They're playing chicken with DC. Every time they lower the price on a book, Marvel raises the price on one of theirs.

>>83422028
If any of your cunts still pay money for these terrible comics then its damn well disgusting.

Why don't you buy a box of minis from Games Workshop while you're at it.

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>>83421579
>I need to sneak into atillan and get Ulysses
>good thing I just finished my upgraded super stealth armor >>83421104

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>>83420508
Ulysses is cute! Cute!

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>>83422028
Did anyone in this thread legitimately buy Civil War books? How do yall feel?

>>83420608
>>83420629
this is making me appreciate Mark Millar so much more

>>83421367
>>83421395
So, what would Tony have done if Carol and Rhodey had gone on a mission to stop Thanos thanks to a warning from the GotG, but everything else went exactly the same?
Would Tony blame the GotG for daring to warn Earth about a dangerous threat?

>>83421395

so... Tony is still the idiot this Civil War? I thought he would be the hero this time.

>>83422376
Is Mantis still on the Guardians?

Why is everyone acting like this future seeing bullshit is new

>>83419836
This.

>>83421737
Because SHIELD and the government don't want anyone finding out.
She's kept as the public face of SHIELD, with less authority, and she's being put on Trial in secret.

>>83422127
Sort of, but it's against Thanos, not the Wrecking Crew or even Count Nefaria.

>>83422445
That's a very good question. The mutants have had over a dozen precogs without anyone ever caring.
Not to mention Reed Richards has a Time Machine in his attic since 1963.

>>83420729
Why does Bendis make every character sound like the Thing in the original Secret Wars?

>>83422127
You can't blame that on Ulysses though, which is what Tony is doing.
Besides, that's still a better result than what would happen if Tony had his way: Thanos comes to Earth, and murders everyone at Project Pegasus and steals the Cosmic Cube.

>>83419836
No, we need more respectful use of the existing major villains. Don't use Thanos for a throwaway battle! Use Count Nefaria or Mangog or one of the literally hundreds of overpowered villains out there.

>>83421024

What happened to Jean's mouth?

>>83422376
>>83422406
I think Bendis wants to make Tony the villain somehow ?

I mean the event was supposed to be a discussion about the morals of knowing about the crime before it happens, and whether or not you would stop the crime in question.

With that original Minority Report scenario it could have been a better event, but as it is right now it just seems like should we use the early warning system or not?

>>83422445
Mantis is part of a different team right now, I thin they're called thee Guardains of Knowhere. Though with her appearing in the new GOTG movie she may be moved back to the primary team

>>83422591
Jean never had a mouth she just made everyone think she does. Since she can't effect him, he sees the truth.

>>83422600
The Minority Report aspect will probably come later, but based on what they've done with Ulysses' intel so far, Tony is being an idiot.
Even though he's the underdog, I doubt many readers will root for him because his motivations are emotional rather than logical.

>>83420647
>what else do you need to know?
ahahahaha, oh fuck you bendis this guy in the few pages he had were more interesting then the main plot of this crap.

>Tony getting this buttblasted

The ride never ends.

>>83422483
Cable is FROM THE FUTURE.

>>83422858
An alternate future, so after a certain point anything he says is completely irrelevant, same with Old Man Logan. Everything occuring in our present is new to them.

>>83422445
>>83422483
Steven Universe crossover.

Tony wants to murder Boxy Love since she's a filthy precog and thus plays god but also wants to nail her since she's an alien babe and he finds out Steven is half-human so its possible to get some fuck with their kind.

>>83420702
>>83420729
>>83420753
>>83420779
>Celestials jobbing this fucking hard

Cosmic marvel is never going to recover from the jobbing out Hickman gave it, is it?

>>83420801
>>83421142
Bet you wish you weren't scrooge mcduck about a better suit for your best friend now.

>>83422913
Old Man logan was so stupid, somehow the entire Xmen roster together couldn't hold down a confused wolverine before he murdered them all.

Thanos did get some kills which is better than the usual kick off villain

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>>83422957
>retarded wrestling lingo
I'm out

Who the fuck thinks its a good idea to ambush thamos with a bunch of b list throwaways? Carrol is super fucking retarded and tony absolutely deserves to be mad about this shit

>>83422957
We don't know if it's an actual Celestial, nobody is sure.
More importantly, they teleported it away, they didn't beat it.

>>83422957
those arent even real celestials.

they seem to be some celestial weapon.

>>83420801
This page is nonsense, the War Machine suit has literally been rebuilt from the ground up a couple of times since he originally got it, he hasn't been missing out on upgrades (or new cloned bodies to replace his cyborg one either)

>>83423011
First of all, the Ultimates, A-Force and the Inhumans aren't "b list throwaways", they're heavy hitters who actually did succeed at taking out Thanos.
Second of all, THAT'S NOT WHY TONY IS MAD. He doesn't use that as an argument, he's angry that they went on a mission to take down Thanos in the first place, just because they were acting on Ulysses' intel and that's somehow bad.

>>83421056
>The guy who gave her ninja training, the guy who gave her a dragon,
>implying these were two different guys
The /co/ doesn't read comics meme is true

>>83421319
Remember all those reject Power Ranger bad guys he gave Thanos like Supergiant and Corvus Glaive?

Good bad guys have to be organic. You can't just push them.

>>83422978
dude, he's Wolverine. he's the best there is at what he does, and what he does ISN'T VERY NICE.

>>83422452
they're a international spy organization WTF do they need a pubic face for? and if they need one to interact with the supers, why her?
everyone with a lick of sense or morals should hate her guts and not want anything to do with her oh wait, this is comics where the sense and reason go to die.
it's shit events like this is why I turned into a weeb when I was a teenager.

and you think one of the thousands of supervillains would leak that info the media by now as one final fuck you.

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>>83423192
Wolverine's a faggot

>>83420647
>What else do you need to know

I'm pretty sure the story of why a fucking Celestial army came out of another dimension and started attacking Earth would be a whole lot better than this shit.

>>83423228
>and you think one of the thousands of supervillains would leak that info the media by now as one final fuck you.
That's the least believable part. There's no way these villains wouldn't tell everyone about it and make a public fuss. Even if SHIELD denies it, the media and the public would start asking questions.

>>83422692
I hope so, but as it is right now Stark seems more emotionally driven in the situation.
Also I feel they will continue with the uncharacteristic aspect of Tony when it should be something that involves an even look on both sides of this debate

>>83422987
Calm your autism jabroni.

>>83423228
>and you think one of the thousands of supervillains would leak that info the media by now as one final fuck you.

Marvel citizens probably approved of it.

>>83423036
Might I remind you it was written by Bendis, "I don't care about continuity, even my own half the time" Bendis

>>83423030
>>83423018
>It's not a real Celestial
>It's a Doom-bot Celestial

It's a Celestial. Not that this will ever be followed up on.

Fucking look how WOLVERINE is affecting them.

And so what if they banished them to the shadow realm. A bunch of magic guys with Doctor Strange shouldn't be able to form a kumbiya circle and do it in a single spell. They're CELESTIALS. All the gods on Earth couldn't do dick to them. They're like New Gods. They're above super heroes.

They deserve better better than this.

>>83421430
>I told you!
>I told you this would happen!
>I told you.
NO YOU DIDN'T: >>83421024 >>83421044
All you did was bring up the Minority Report analogy. Where exactly did you say "if we listen to Ulysses a hero will die on a mission he went on based on the intel he provided"?
You should have waited a couple of issues for Carol's group to do something actually morally ambigous to pull the "I told you so" card. Listening to Ulysses and stopping Thanos was thr right call, nay the only call.

>>83420702
>>83420675
How are people like Hawkeye flying without even a jetpack?

They bothered drawing Cap and Shulk with them.

>>83420603
With the rejonder "unless Starlin's writing him."

Honestly I'm fine with Thanos being a big deal but needing a boost to be universe wrecking because that gives him motivation to go on quests for power and that's his most interesting villain thing.

>>83423552
True, the Thanos wank can get pretty bad otherwise.

>>83423534
>How are people like Hawkeye flying without even a jetpack?

Remember back in Dark Reign when the Hood's power neutralizer knocked out Hawkeye? Bendis does. He actually had the latent power to fly all along and this unclear appearance at the back of the spread is a major hint about it!

This was a pretty good issue, some fantastic art going on. I feel like the core debate is pretty clever, but Tony's just acting on emotion here and they honestly caught Thanos so I don't see the problem.

>>83422334
pretty good really.

>>83423599
Actually, Tom Brevoort explained it by pointing out that Hawkeye used to have size-changing powers back when he was Goliath.

>>83423599
Nice try, but what about the other nonflyers?

I mean what the fuck is Quicksilver even doing? He's just randomly running into the sky and away from the fight

>>83423332
>>83423228
Continuity is largely a myth. The only changes to the status quo are due to movie shit. Like how the only Avenger to suffer repercussions for Hickman's multiverse slaughter was Namor who conveniently has his rights stuck with Universal. Or how the Fantastic Four's Baxter Building is now owned by Spider-Man while they stay in canceled limbo because of movie rights. Or how the Inhumans are getting such a push to be dollar store brand X-men because of movie rights.

It's all about that movie synergy anon.

Nothing else matters. Hickman killed the entire multiverse and the only real change was dead Namor and dead Ultimates.

Nothing. Ever. Matters.

The only comic writer that gets this is Grant Morrison. This is what the Oblivion Machine was in Multiversity. Never ending zero sum events marked by death and destruction.

>>83423653
But that was just via using pym particles and stopped applying when he stopped using them? Tech-use isn't a power.

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>>83421335

Everything in this event confuses me so far. How could this lineup even scratch Thanos much less defeat him and have him in custody? Thanos can take a full force black bolt blast to the face and give no fucks but I'm supposed to believe this B team took him out?

>>83424335
maybe getting caught was part of his plan

>>83424775
Thanos is a big guy.

>>83421319
So you just want to keep endlessly repeating the same villains we get everywhere?

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>>83424335
Spectrum, Blue Marvel and Binary-Captain Marvel are all planetbusters. (I think Blue Marvel is, the other two definitely are.)

Also, pic related.
>Whatever it is, it'll be weakened by the crossing.

>>83424335
Bendis.

The answer is always Bendis.

Also remember that one of Rodey's tiny little missiles took out She-Hulk, maybe even killed her.

>>83424816
They work when you drop continuity and make stories self-contained. Writers can provide variation and twists on time-proven character concepts.

But if you got an idea for a cool new bad guy please share. It's bound to be better than Corvus Glaive.

>>83423430
Even if you think that the big guy is a Celestial (they do refer to him as a Celestial Destructor but they also say he's not from their dimension, which would imply that it's at the very least not a 616-native Celestial) the human-sized mooks are very clearly not Celestials.

>>83424335
Explained in Ultimates that he was weakened by the return trip into the universe, which is why he jacked a bunch of shia'ar guns.

>>83424977
Okay. Why are mooks that a Celestial thinks are worth carrying around getting fucked over by Wolverine?

How were the Avengers able to -not- take a single causality engaging a Celestial?

>>83420248
I love how the solicits unintentionally (or are they?) paint Carol as the bad guy. She's literally calling in the Guardians because she can't stand that Iron Man has a different opinion.

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>>83424335

Also why did he have guns? Of what use are guns when the only threat to you are beings that are impervious to any sort of weapon fire?

>>83424907
Blue Marvel is powered by internal antimatter so he could probably destroy a planet if he tried hard enough.

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>>83425143
>>83424907

>>83421246
>Cho's response
>Quseada's
ABSOLUTE MADMEN

>>83425143
maybe they're, like, super guns.

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>>83425244
Al Ewing, Bendis's continuity janitor.

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>>83425268
Ewing really needs to have an intervention where the rest of Marvel's staff sits him down and tells him that there's no need to clean up continuity for events because nobody cares. He wastes too much time dealing with events when he should be telling his own, actually interesting, stories.

>>83421335
>You Earth Avengers are not supposed to be here
>On earth

>>83425244
>>83425268
>>83425293
>>83425310

I'm still not seeing why he needs guns. He just punched through the hull of a spaceship then tore everyone in the room limb from limb with his bare hands.

>>83425079
Bendis has never once in his entire career remotely cared about power levels. He writes every single character, be they hero or villain, as being around the same power-level with a couple exceptions.

>>83419781
Tbh Thanos being in custody is kind of an interesting development, I mean has he ever been a prisoner on Earth before? (Not counting that old comic with the Thanos copter where he gets taken away by cops in the end)

Obviously keeping Thanos imprisoned on Earth is a terrible idea just waiting to blow up in everyone's faces, but because of that it kind of has potential. It's a scenario where he really doesn't belong, and that makes it interesting

>>83425541
>I mean has he ever been a prisoner on Earth before?

Well-

>(Not counting that old comic with the Thanos copter where he gets taken away by cops in the end)

Damn you!

More recently, he spent months imprisoned in an amber cube made by his son Thane in Wakanda. It wasn't very interesting.

>>83420779
So why is Black Bolt no longer the leader of the inWHOmans?

>>83425641
apparently Medusa and Black Bolt are currently separated, not sure if they ae officially divorced or not though.
Medusa is currently dating Johnny, because reasons.
Beast is currently working with the Inhumans, he is trying to find a cure for the new Mutant disease caused by the Inhuman terrigen mist

>>83421817
>>83421892
See, I don't know if you can call Wisdom a Warren Ellis self insert so much as a Warren Ellis character archetype.

>>83425641
Medusa kicked him out after too many extended absences and unilateral decisions with too little explanation.

>>83421949
>Diaz wants the X-men's mutations to look like mutations
>makes most of the main cast horribly deformed
>Except Kitty who's perfect and smart and also team leader because she's so great and her one flaw is that other people are jealous of her

>>83425444
exactly. he doesn't.

>>83425640
>>83425541
yeah, Thanos was stuck in that block of amber for a while during "time runs out". Tony, Reed, and company were keeping him "just in case". In this event, I'll bet you $100 Thanos is captured and held for two years real time, only to get out right before Infinity War comes out.

>>83425641
during Infinity (before Secret Wars), Thanos came to Attilan. Black Bolt evacuated the city, fought Thanos alone, and then blew the whole thing up. He didn't bother to tell his wife and co-ruler any of this, so she got pretty mad. He also vanished and was presumed dead after all this went down. When he came back, he didn't apologize or anything, just "hey guess what I'm back, thanks for keeping the throne warm". Medusa, understandably, told him to fuck off, and that she's in charge now, and she's gonna bang Johnny Storm for a while, thanks.

>>83425541
Is there any prison on Earth even strong enough to even hold Thanos. I mean sure I can see that him being imprisoned can lead to some interesting interactions, especially when Tony, Captain American, Vision, or any of the key Avengers that have dealt with him multiple times speak with him.

However the imprisoned villain playing with the heroes trope works when the imprisonment seems to work best when you can believe the villain is actually imprisoned and is manipulating them to break free later

>>83422028
God has abandoned this vile and corrupt earth.

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>>83422028
I've seen TPBs go for $10

>>83425965
>Is there any prison on Earth even strong enough to even hold Thanos.
there is thanks to based Al Ewing. Blue Marvel has one that can hold him that first appeared a couple of issues ago in Ultimates.

>>83421246

>everyone knows about Bendis obsession with Luke Cage

>>83425268
he's been given the same job that the Bayformers novelization writers begrudgingly serve out.

>>83421525
Where IS Banner now that i think about it?

>>83427463
I think Chulk was supposed to answer that, but the most we know is that Banner transferred his Hulk, or at least a portion of his Hulk powers to Amadeus Cho

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>>83421395
Wow, great writing

>>83420779
So is Beast a
NuHuman now or do they just not realize he's a race traitor?

>>83425850
She tried to goad him into taking the throne back but it backfired when he didn't give a shit.

>>83427981
Beast made an arrangement to stay and help the Inhumans as a both an ambassador of mutants and secondly to try and find a cure to help mutants that are being negatively affected by the Terrigen mists

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>>83421056
If there's one thing dogfucker got right was to call her on her bullshit at last.

I was very firmly on Steve's side during the first Civil War. This though, I can't even work up a fuck to give.

Probably doesn't help Carol's at the head of it, just can't work up a damn about her.

>>83420729
> The hell is a Reversal Book of Vishanti?
>Oh wait.

>>83425794
>apparently Medusa and Black Bolt are currently separated
>Medusa is currently dating Johnny, because reasons.

Can't have monogamy in 21st century comics! It's too old school and lame!

>>83428179
Thank you.
And Johnny is just there for dusa's short hairs? Damn the NuHumans are doomed.

>>83422028
>DC Rebirth was twice as long
>Yet half the price

>>83425444
Also remember that he can shoot energy blasts from his hands.

>>83429591
>Afterbirth was only $2.99!
Until they saw how much Marvel was making and decided to double it, did you mean?

http://www.newsarama.com/29506-dc-universe-rebirth-gets-second-printing-higher-cover-price.html

How long till their "low low price guarantee" goes the way of their "12 issues for DCYou" guarantee?

>>83423062
No.

Judging by their sales, B list is being charitable.

>>83423062

They only succeeded because of incompetent writing. Their goofy team shouldn't have stood a chance. They got fucked up by a random missile, but still managed to take down Thanos? How does that make any sense?

>>83423062
>he's angry that they went on a mission to take down Thanos in the first place,
People keep saying this, but where's the quote?
People are just making that up to vilify Tony, as if pretending hard enough he wanted people to die is as bad as the Ultimates and Inhumans actually having two deaths on their heads they should have avoided for all their posturing.

Shit happens is not an excuse when you know before hand. It makes you all the more discredited in fact because you know better for a fact and then manually choose to do worse.

>THAT'S NOT WHY TONY IS MAD. He doesn't use that as an argument
People keep saying this too but after being informed of their joke of an ambush attempt, Tony's question to the Ultimates is what Rhodey was even doing there then.

Carol hand waves the matter and says she'd do it again. Unlike allegations of Tony being pro-Thanos you can quote her on that and take it to court for gross incompetence.

>>83422858
>>83422913
It doesn't matter what future you're from, and it hasn't since Bishop decided to murder Hope.

>>83423036
>>83423370

Also, the crack about it being from the 80s is about as fitting as Tony's 1990s Googling in Cambridge, London.

>>83425310
So Gladiator's gonna kill this dipshit for treason, right?

Fucking around with Earth is not a proven strategy for ANYONE in Space Marvel.
Fuck, the Shi'ar empire got usurped by some random jackass Terran because they couldn't leave well enough alone.

>>83420520
So Beast is a fucking race traitor now? wtf? atleast Johny is fucking Medusa

>>83430390
The second edition was also a higher quality print run with better paper and square binding instead of staples.

>>83420836
>get Jean

she is gonna make him gay

>>83421024
YOU SENT HIM INTO FUCKING SPACE YOU HYPOCRITE

>>83420954
who doesn't?

>>83432867
>Bendis
>Remembering storylines older than the last trade to come out.

>>83420753
Look at Spidey shielding the kid partially with his own body. While Spider-woman looks like she's about to use the kids as makeshift shields if shit goes her way.

>>83421270
I was just about to say that the art on this is magnificent but is wasted on this shit event.

Seriously I think the premise at it's core (minority report) could work well with an event but just not this Civil war movie cash in also in an event not written by Bendis, hell the event could probably work if I don't know Ewing was writing it, hell as much as Hickman's SW failed to deliver the hype he would've written a better event than this shit

>>83420520
>We're the not-X-Men!

>>83420822
Marquez is kind of a shitty artist and he gives all characters this unsettling baby face.

>>83419781
Did anyone else just stop reading new comics because of all these shittastic events and Bendis?

>>83421623
I was about to bring that up, also when he has characters shit talk Tigra.

>>83433542
only ones I read are from what are storytimed on /co/ and trades from my library. I'm not spending good money on type of crap.

why did the only bring a handful of b listers for thanos? how'd they even catch him

>>83420999
Pls Kitty/Peter was all Humphries that's why they aren't together anymore, Humphries left.

Kitty will OT3 with Luke and Jessica Jones.

>>83433542

No. I just stopped reading mainstream Marvel. I'm still getting the Star Wars books and books from other publishers.

>>83422560
Or Carol could've done the sane thing, call in the powerhouses and stall Thanos, I mean Voodo could teleport the Unity Squad, Magik the X-men, Whor and Tony fly faster than the speed of sound etc..., hell they probably had room for preptime but this is Bendis so I don't know why the fuck I'm trying to unfuck the plot

>>83433623
The FCBD issue showed them getting really angry and kept blasting and punching him until he went down.

>>83423658
They can't even do their own damn synergy right though. Scott Lang and Rhode are both dead, which is hilarious since the latter didn't even die in the movie.

>>83423298
this

>>83430390
Second edition is better quality and a new cover and it also sold out and theh are going for a third printing so people liked it, plus it's 80 pages, $2.99 is a fixed price for regular comics.

Civil War #1 is barely more than 30 pages at $5.99, like fuck that, anyone who buys that shit is an idiot.

>>83433942
>they already backpedaled on their pricing (just like the length of runs of DCY)
>PEOPLE LIKED IT!
DCucks, everybody!

>>83431901
How the fuck did you come to the conclusion that that anon was saying Tony was pro-Thanos or that he was trying to vilify him because he wasn't?

Are you much of a Tony stan that anyone criticizing your precious cinnamon roll triggers you badly?

>>83434002
3rd printing says it all, keep being mad console wars fag.

>>83433542
I just pirate them, I'm not giving those fuckers money until they start writting good shit again... but most of the time I only read /co/ storytimes and my own digital library which is composed of back issues mainly

>>83422028
Holy fuck, really glad I didn't buy it now. Great art and I'm interested to see where the story goes, but $6 is too much.

>>83420520
Damn the asian one (iso?) is a qt. Should I start reading the inhumans books?

>>83430390

No they raised the price because the second printing is square bound on higher quality paper.

>>83433673
>Pls Kitty/Peter was all Humphries that's why they aren't together anymore, Humphries left.
Claiming victory fast? The story isn't over and Bendis had her change the Star-Lord costume, the only problem Peter had with her.

>>83433927
>Scott Lang
>Dead
???

>>83434048
>How the fuck did you come to the conclusion that that anon was saying Tony was pro-Thanos

>Besides, that's still a better result than what would happen if Tony had his way: Thanos comes to Earth, and murders everyone at Project Pegasus and steals the Cosmic Cube.
>he's angry that they went on a mission to take down Thanos

The only argument against Tony so far is this made up assumption in every thread that he wanted Thanos to get away and destroy the world. There's never a screenshot or direct quote.

>>83435010
Maybe the wiki article he looked up is out-dated.

>>83419781

I disagree with you as in, Blue Marvel and Monica should be able to match Thanos.
I think the problem is Carol called too many useless people, like Medusa and Rhodey.
Blue Marvel, Monica, Carol, Cho Hulk and Whor should have been more than enough to handle Thanos.

>>83424335
Bruh they brought a fuckton of people to take down Thanos.
>Ultimates
>B-team
You're funny

>>83425929
Why the fuck isn't Uncanny Inhumans dealing with that? You would figure that as much as Marvel wants to push the Inhumans, they'd get their shit together and figure out how they want to go about this. For fucks sake, at least focus on the Royal Family. They're going to bring in the money, not these nuhuman fucks that people have to both get to know and try to care about

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>>83435455

Besides that Black Panther was there. All he'd have to do is get behind Thanos, put him into an armbar and it'd be all over.

>>83435548
What

How does that even work

>>83421319
Nothing wrong with new characters as long as there good
I allow an 80% failure rate on hero's 10% on villans

>>83435622
the way a human body is built its pretty much impossible to break out of a properly executed arm bar if you have nothing to use as leverage.

for some reason we are supposed to assume that the surfers body has the same internal structure and just ignore the planet busting power cosmic.

>>83435622

Hudlin.

>>83435954

that was written by the most holy Dwayne McDuffie.

>>83435984

Then why does it reek of Hudlin's shit-tier Black Panther run?

>>83435932
>the way a human body is built its pretty much impossible to break out of a properly executed arm bar if you have nothing to use as leverage.

It shouldn't matter since Surfer should be vastly stronger. Black Panther's muscles are like paper in comparison.

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>>83420520
Casualfag here, Beast is an inhuman now?

>>83436409

That has been explained half a dozen times in this very thread you dumb shit.

>>83434537

yes

>>83423487
See, I agree with you on everything except the last part.
Gathering a bunch of lower tier heroes in a fight against Thanos was irresponsible on Carol's part and the true reason Tony should have been angry.
If they actually wanted to ambush Thanos, all she had to do was bring in one-two super strong heroes to help her and capture him without any casualties. Instead she went for quantity over quality and see where that brought them...

>>83431901
We keep saying it because Tony's reaction is to claim "I told you so" about using Ulysses, and then immediately flies off to kidnap him so that nobody can ever listen to his intel.
Do those sound like the words and actions of a man who would have acted on the intel to take out Thanos and set up an ambush?
If he were mad for the reasons you claim, he would have said YOU SUCK CAROL, ALL OF YOU SUCK AND YOU SHOULD HAVE CALLED ME TO HELP. But he doesn't do that.

>>83435014
It's not a made-up assumption. Tony's reaction to finding out that Carol went on the mission because of Ulysses' intel is to go ballistic and say he's going to stop them from "playing God" ever again by taking out Ulysses.
How else are we supposed to interpret that? Tony is saying that nobody should listen to Ulysses, and if nobody had listened to Ulysses, then Thanos would have attacked Project Pegasus unopposed until the heroe found out he was there from another source, by which point he would have already killed a bunch of people.

>>83438635
The Ultimates aren't lower tier heroes. They're among the strongest beings on Earth, and in the end they did manage to capture Thanos without much fuss.

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How is the bingo going?

>>83429134
It's not bigamy if both parties know they are seperated before you start getting the torchdick.

>>83422028
It's double-length. So you're getting two $3.99 comics for $5.99.

>>83421397
>Moonstone
>Sticking your dick in crazy

10/10 taste

>>83419781
>294 posts
look at these bendis fans

>>83420853
>you should see what She-Hulk is thinking about right now
Goddamit it this bitch just doesn't stop

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>>83439030
Pretty well. Or pretty badly depending on your point of view

>>83438913
No, but I mean, why bring lower tier heroes AS WELL as the Ultimates (or lower tier heroes from the Ultimates as well, I am not entierly sure of the power level of the Ultimates, so my bad) when you could have brought one super powerful hero and be done with it without risking anything?
Is like, you have a precog ability that lowers the chances of unexpected and bad things happening and you don't bring them even lower in order to ensure 100% that everything goes well.

>>83439361
Basically, >>83431901 put it best:
>Shit happens is not an excuse when you know before hand. It makes you all the more discredited in fact because you know better for a fact and then manually choose to do worse.

>>83422560
>which is what Tony is doing.
No, he pretty clearly blames Carol

>>83421395
And here I thought Carol was going to be the nutcase.

The wrong metal man died - put a bullet in Tony Stark's head.

>>83439048
It is if they're still married.

>>83439392
That's still not a reason to blame Ulysses.

>>83439462
Yes, but he blames Carol for using Ulysses, so he reacts by trying to take Ulysses out of the picture.
If he was solely blaming Carol he wouldn't do that.

>>83439606
Well yeah, she obviously can't be trusted to avoid the temptation.

>>83439655
The temptation to what? Act on intel?
By that logic Tony should take out any source of intel Carol has, like blowing up the Alpha Flight satellite, so that she'll never organize any missions ever again.
Keep in mind, the fact that Ulysses gave her the intel has nothing to do with the final result, those 2 things are completely seperate.

>>83421246
Why does Bendis always need to remind everybody that he is jewish? Like, half of the time when you read anything he said like here or in his tweet he always need to remind you that he is jewish, damn he is like the /pol/tards that always need to shitpost about how racist they are.

>>83439272
you could already add "event pushes a new relaunch" and maybe "Scarlet Witch show up and get shit on" whith that no more Hellstorm

>>83439754
Jewish narcisism knows no bounds.

Hitler was right.

>>83423062
>>A Force
>>cutie girls team that smashes the patriarchy or whatever shit tween girls are into these days.

>>83439842
Your dislike of them is irrelevant, they're still heavy-hitters.

>>83433758
Tony Stark isn't anywhere near a powerhouse compared to the likes of Blue Marvel, she had some ridiculously powerful people in her squad.

>>83420801
Why does marvel hate hair on the side of people's heads so much?

>>83422978

Yeah, I don't exactly get it either.

Nightcrawler alone should've been able to teleport Wolverine to another place that's lifeless, for him to cool down.

Cyclops could've just eye beamed the fuck outta him. Wolverine would eventually regenerate from it though.

Iceman could literally just freeze his ass. Wolverine would survive.

Jean Gray could just shut his mind down or make him see more clearly.

Wolverine shouldn't even be able to cut Colossus too damn deep to the point of evisceration.

Eh, I guess one has to put down their suspension of disbelief over it. Personally I think it would've made more sense if Wolverine somehow had gotten amped unknowingly, from a power gem or something.

>>83420853
>They really did bring in Jean
Fuck I thought they were joking

So why do heroes even care about someone who can see the future in a world with TIME MACHINES and No Consequences?

This story might have worked like 30 years ago. Today its kinda lame/gimmick/last second bull.

Get rid of Bendis, Quesada, and Slott, Marvel. They have zero talent. They start strong and all fall flat because they have no ability to maintain continuity or follow through fully with an idea of any type.

>>83419781

It was called the 'Celestial something' but that doesn't mean it was an actual Celestial. It wouldn't have been defeated so easily.

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>>83435548
>>83435622
>>83435817
>>83435932
>>83435954
>>83435984
> McDuffie: ""Read the scene again and this time pay attention. The Surfer allowed the Panther to "restrain" him in the hope of finding out what the FF was up to. A panel later, the Surfer's assistant blasts the Panther unconscious. The Surfer is irritated because he wanted the Panther to talk, which he thought he might do if the Panther believed he had the upper hand. Most of the people who bitch about this have only seen a scan of one page, or have poor reading comprehension skills."

>>83440475
Celestials are stupid, we don't need an entire race of gigantic cosmic spacemen that look down on Galactus