What are your ideas for the perfect epilogue of Homestuck? >plot

>no confirmed ships

Fuck no
He roped us in on that bullshit, he needs to deliver

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everyone is confirmed white and cisgender

>>83408872
this already happened, tumblr was mad about it

>>83408810
>no confirmed ships

Then what's even the fucking point of going down that God damn road in the first place?

>>83408810
the end is solvable as it is. given how it was apparently made into a puzzle as an artistic choice, if he goes back on that shit by spelling it out for the retards that'd be fucking dumb. maybe a few extra clues are allowed, but no aranea-style explanation.

id ideally want some doc scratch scrapbook style random scenes of fun stuff in the new world and filling in a couple of lost plot points from before like liv's weapons. mostly just the different characters enjoying their new lives. its an epilogue, after all.

Official troll canon ethnics:

Aradia: Japanese
Tavros: Filipino
Sollux: Korean
Karkat: Swedish
Nepeta: Russian
Kanaya: Transylvanian
Terezi: Jewish
Vriska: Australian
Equius: German
Gamzee: Texan
Eridan: Finnish
Feferi: Black

there's no way it can be actually good but it might be interesting in some ways

>>83408929

>the end is solvable as it is.

no its not. the 'theories' are guesses based on a few images

>>83408947
>Vriska: Australian

Hahaha. Because giant spiders.

>>83408947
only Aradia, Tavros, Terezi and Feferi are explicitly confirmed.

>>83408947
>Eridan
>not a 'wwe wwuz ceasers' italian
>Tavros
>not a spic

>>83408959
you are the retards i was talking about

>>83408991
People like you connect dots where there aren't any, eating Andrews shit and then begging for more

>>83409018
i didnt say i liked it, just that it was solvable. a puzzle that can be solved can still be shit.

>>83408991

insults just show you don't have anything substantial to say

the theories amount to nonsense about pool and 'leaving the comic'. the realistic truth is that hussie dropped the ending he came up with before he started on the comic out of lack of anything better to do.

>>83408973
When or what was Terezi confirmed as being? I can't recall it like I can with Tavros, Aradia and Feferi.

>>83409048
you just present yourself as an idiot with this argument though.

its like you bought the most recent where wally book and the author barely bothered with this one. its a fucking mess. wally himself is drawn with a shitty smudge of red ink on a white background on every page but youre so mad you cant be bothered to even look at it. so you go on 4chan to complain about it to your fellow wheres wally fans, but your argument for why its bad is that wheres wally isnt even there.

saying that the end is unsolvable just makes you look fucking dumb. there are plenty of other huge issues to complain about, including the idea of making the final battle into a fucking offscreen 'mystery' in the first place

>>83409180

if there was a solution, you would have listed it out already or someone else would have

You can only pick one:

>1.
>Davejade becomes canon in the epilogue, davekat sinks
>But RoxyCallie is canon and John dies a cucked virgin

Or

>2.
>Johnroxy is canon with semi-lewd scene
>Davekat is canon and immortal as Karkat somehow goes god tier

>>83409233
why doesn't davejade get a semilewd scene

>>83409240
Because it already had the benefit of sinking davekat

>>83409233
2
I know it's a le epic meme to hate Karkat now but I honestly want the best for him and him going godtier would make me happy

>>83409249
yeah but that's not semilewd scene

>>83409233
2

I never shipped Dave or Karkat with anyone substantially enough to be assmad over davekat, plus their pesterlogs are some of the funniest so if they keep even a third of that dynamic I might actually like it.

>>83409220
its been spelled out multiple times. its some basic babbys first symbolism shit. do you think the pool thing is too deep or complicated for andrew or something? xd the cue ball knocks the eight ball in the pocket. solved, done, easy.

now we can complain about how shit it was, instead of pretending we dont understand for some unexplainable reason.

>>83409233
2

>>83409233
1, lesbians are at least better than gays and davekat is literally one of the worst things in the comic.

>>83409249
If davejade was canon of course davekat would sink, that's not a side benefit, that's the main benefit.

>>83409264
>implying codependent enabling with red weanie knight #1 is what's best for karkat

>>83408810
>no confirmed ships
>jack noir and ms paint wedding

You literally just contradicted yourself. But I do agree.

>>83409403
>>83408810
>Actually wanting that
How does it feel to have taste this bad?
Jack needs to be put in the fucking ground, he shouldn't be rewarded for all the shit he did.

>>83409320

thats not a 'solution' man

the thing to be solved is act 7 being a good ending. pool symbolism isn't good writing, it's just dumb. it's not satisfying or interesting and playing off a villain's theme is one of the lamest ways to beat him. it's certainly not enough to save the ending or the comic it's a part of.

nobody even does anything but stand on a lilypad except vriska. it's almost laughable that he thought that single page was good enough, even though he mentioned wanting to add more to the act.

those theories get passed around and they're not worth paying attention to without being underage, so meta stuff seems deep.

>>83408981
his ancestor is based off a filipino so it makes sense I guess

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Overture was one of my favorite songs.

Now after Act 7 I can't listen to it anymore.

>>83409443
i did not say it was good. or satisfying, or interesting. and it certainly didnt save the comic after the abortion that was the last internission. all i said was that it is 'solvable'. which it is. we know what happened. pretending we dont just makes us look like idiots, and undermines valid arguments for why the ending sucked like the ones you listed in your post. which i agree with totally.

>>83409534
Who were the kids in the masterpiece then?

>>83409648
same kids from act 7 after some indeterminate period of time spent in the new universe. john explicitly says to roxy that they can/will go fight caliborn together 'later' when theyre prepared.

>>83409264
>>83409307
>>83409326
>wanting this meme ship to happen
>three fucking replies
Holy shit.

>>83409699
>people have opinions I don't share
Holy shit.

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>>83409699
I will go down with this ship.

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>>83409233
1
RoxyCallie's cute

>>83409693
What causes them to want to go back and fight caliborn if they already won the game and are living peacefully?

Do they get sucked into the black hole and die forever?

>>83409705
You fucktards are the majority anyway and I am forced to bow down and see every thread being ruined with smug Davekat assholes, butthurt Davejade comments and every lore discussion being ruined with these fuckers arguing and shit-flinging each other.
It's also worse how this ship is tied with Vriska fixing everything and Vriskagram.

Oh, and more fucking nigger Dave with wrong hairstyles and fat pink manlet Karkat fanart.

>>83409835
I don't understand what you're mad about but it's clearly something completely different from what we're discussing

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>>83409835
holy shit calm down you autistic retard

>>83409835
>smug
I see one or two and most seem pretty desperate
They know they boarded andrew's ruse train and it ran off a cliff.

>yfw the end is Mobster Kingpin looking up from a ridiculously complicated boardgame and asking Death what the fuck that shit was

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>>83409835
>Oh, and more fucking nigger Dave with wrong hairstyles and fat pink manlet Karkat fanart.
You mean this?

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>>83409891
someone draw this please

>>83409861
>that one fic where Karkat is actually an autistic retard with zero friends

>>83409934
homestuck?

>>83409903
why do black people appropriate white people hair like this?

>>83410005
>black
Anon, the artist is probably an underaged american white girl.

>>83409800
reasons to go:
a. john still inexplicably 'knows' caliborn is the guy behind everything and thinks taking everyone to fight him as a kid is therefore going to fix everything
b. hussie is a hack
c. both

we dont know if they die or not

>>83409800
time paradox?
they prob need Caliborn to get stuck in Lil Cal

>>83410036
>a. john still inexplicably 'knows' caliborn is the guy behind everything and thinks taking everyone to fight him as a kid is therefore going to fix everything

fix what
theyre already in the new universe, playing soccer and fucking each other all day long
what pressing matter is going to make dave remove his face from between karkat's crotch, or stop john from ramming his dick into roxy in order to go "hey everyone, i know everythings great but you know what we have to do now? zap to another universe to beat up a skull kid, that will solve the nonexistant problems we're having right now!"

>>83410090
you missed my second two options pal

>>83410117
theyre the fucking same, i was addressing the one that could actually be construed as a solution to this apparently "solved" puzzle

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>>83410090
He is already there.

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>>83410090
>what pressing matter is going to make dave remove his face from between karkat's crotch
Nothing and proof that this theory is incorrect, Dave loves him some Karkat Kool-aid

>>83410140
no one does anything for a good reason in homestuck. people just do things because the plot dictates it. john said hed take everyone to go fight caliborn later, so hes gonna do it.

if you want to, headcanon it as happening 400 million years later when theyre all bored of eternal life. john suddenly remembers caliborn and the rest of them are like yeah fuck it.

>>83410252
What were the Act curtains, anyway? Why did Hussie want to set them up? Which universe was Hussie in, anyway? What was the author avatar? Was it Hussie's dream self? Was Hussie a SBURB player? Why was the dog from the Neverending story there? Why was Vriska or Aranea mind controlling it? Why could the Hussiebot movie so fast? Can Jade's robots move that fast?

>>83410299
i guess we were supposed to take it that hussie lived in universe C some time before caliborn. i have no answer to the rest of your questions. hussie made a mistake making his insert do anything but sit behind the fourth wall.

>>83409165
she calls herself JEWGISH once.

it's kind of throwaway though

>>83410299
the answer to every single one of your questions is 'a joke'

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>>83409495
>moonsetter

>>83410333
Which planet did Hussie live in? Is he a different species, or just a regular human?

>>83409861
post the rest boy

>>83410393
earth, thats why the act curtains are on caliborns planet. no answer to the second question.

>>83410358
Ah, much appreciated anon. I imagine there's a way to read into Terezi's actions, likening them to the stereotypical jewish girl generalizations. But first and foremost she's a fucking crazy alien with a fixation on law and detective work, despite being terrible at both.

>>83409495
that whole album was one of my most favourite ones and now i just pretend that overture doesn't exist anymore

>>83410452
did hussie ever make jewish jokes back in his TSO days?

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>>83410592
sure did

I stopped reading Homestuck around Act 5. Dave was my favorite, and I know he's gay/bi with Karkat now and Bro ended up being abusive, but did he really turn into a weenie? How?

>>83408810
>Final act was a ruse from Caliborn

>>83410645
Basic hates the idea of fighting and time traveling, actually gave a speech about toxic masculinity

jade's effort to remasculine on Dave

>>83409233
I'm already hoping for 2.

>>83410746
>on Dave
>on
Dave's too vanilla to be into watersports

>>83410645
According to him he had a messed up ideal of masculinity forced on him by Bro and has PTSD from it. But then right after that he talks it out with alternate-teen-bro and chops the right things up with his sword no problem so it's more some kind of after-the-fact commentary than an actual plot point.

Whatever happened to that nudestuck collection?

>Dave tries to come out to Jade with Karkat at his side
>Jade gets pissed at the revelation
>Not on my watch
>Uses space powers to fix Dave's brain and make him straight again without anyone noticing
>Dave comes to his senses, pushes Karkat away in disgust and walks away with Jade as Karkat cries

>>83410849
It was a ruse.

>>83410857
lmao

Enjoy your Davekat shoved up your anus.

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>>83410857

>>83408810
>More of the trolls make it into the new universe. At least some of the living trolls, fuck.
>We find out why it was so goddamn important that Karkat survive the final fight
>a dialoguelog or two outside of the normal designated talk buddies.

>>83410857
steelcorridor should draw this
i think the gay conversion therapy shit might actually piss reddit off more than the original not on my watch comic

>>83410891
I don't have to enjoy that, since it won't be happening

>>83410904
please no vriska in the new universe

reminder that according to ULTIMATE SELVES davejade is literally ingrained into their very being

>>83410997
By that logic so is Davekat
And maybe even Davros

>>83410997
This is meaningless, ultimate selves are just having a perpetual orgy.

>>83410997
did grandma english /ss/ alpha dave

>>83411052
wrong, ultimate dave was okay with it, but ultimate dave wuved jade

>>83410904
>why is karkat so important
Davekat and "da chosen one leader" destiny.

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>>83411148
B1 Jake and Roxy were close
B2 Jade and Dave...

>>83411121
reasons for suicide: hasten assimilation into your ultimate self, where you get to revel in all the achievements and hot sex the non-loser version of you managed to do

The thing about ULTIMATE SELVES is that if it had been introduced before the LAST FUCKING HOUR of the story, it could have been an extremely neat concept within a story like Homestuck.
Like just think about all of the different canon doomed timelines in Homestuck, there are SO many. Now imagine all the individual daves or johns or terezis from those timelines all collapsing together into one superconscious dave, john, or terezi. Thousands of lifetimes worth of experiences sharpening the blade like so many whetstones.
Imagine what Collide would be like after THAT fucking shit.

It would have made the dream bubbles more than COMPLETELY FUCKING WORTHLESS too

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>>83411269

>>83411291
ultimate selves was totally in keeping with the themes of platonic ideals that defined sburb from the start. having an ideal of a person that all versions of that person who we can see and talk to are just flawed reproductions of. thats what all the alchemitor and captchalogue stuff was about, and it shouldnt surprise you that it was extended to people. even the sprites^2 werent that ideal, they were just closer to being able to perceive them.

>>83411409
Nah I'm in no way saying I have a problem with it, I actually love the concept
I'm just upset that, like I said, the first time it was mentioned was in the last hour of the comic. Less than 60 minutes after you read about it, the comic is over without having touched on it any further. What a fucking waste!

>>83411399
>famed movie director caught in sex scandal with skaianet CEO
>claims "she may be eighty but she rides dick like she's twenty"

>>83411269
I don't understand the premise for this strip

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>>83411649

>>83411732
no I mean why is there an age difference

>>83411758
Because it's Alpha Dave and Jade, so Grandma and Bro Dave

>>83411763
did they know each other?

>>83411775
Presumably, considering they were all rebels against Condy and Grandma was the original rebel

>>83411775
grandpa jake had some connection with roxy and dirk. its very likely that grandma jade knew dave and rose since they knew a huge amount about the condesce and english

>>83411828
based alpha john doesnt give a shit about any of this and just becomes a goony magician/prankster like sassacre.

>>83411828
How did he have a connection with Dirk?

I WAS RAPED

>>83412396
shit bro who did it ill kill them and then we can cuddle

>>83412450
IT WAS VRISKA

KILL HER, DAVE

FUCKING
KILL
HER

>>83412396
good for you dude i heard it builds character

>>83409923
I want to draw it but can't until I get out of class
RIP

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>>83412509

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alright shes got a name
desida lyrdin

>>83412560
I want her to be raped by seadwellers and be force-fed with mind honey like the fat slut she is!

>>83412312
bro seemed to know about the game ahead of time, which suggests he was in on grandpa's skaianet thing in some way. exactly what way we dont know.

>>83412560
Fucking troll bee and puppy cat vibe.

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>>83412560
Look like a close genetic relative of Meulin.

>>83412664
her signing starts lookin a little lewd in slowed down like that

>>83412652
hmm
well she'd be more of a daria than a bee

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>>83412720
Presumably it's the lack of transitional frames. I'm not even sure if she's actually signing anything discernible.

>>83412560
Your fan Trolls suck.

I mean, in concept fan Trolls aren't great anyway, but yours are particularly poor.

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>>83412839
you got an specifics i can work on or do you just not like them

>>83412560
How does she eventually die?

>>83412839
>particularly poor
They're cute enough and not DA tier, which as far as I know is as good as fantrolls ever get. Are there any genuinely great fantrolls?

>>83412863
in the vast glub like everyone else
the vast din if you will

>>83412860
wwell for starters she should be smitten wwith eri

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>>83412876
i really like ipgd's

>>83412876
>Are there any genuinely great fantrolls?
glades plugin of course

>>83412901
isnt that her trollsona
her fantroll was dragon dildos

>>83412860
Not that anon, but some wavy horns wouldn't go amiss, given the hair. Or some tie in with her goat lusus, fuck knows what that exactly is but it'd put some spice into the design, outside of just being a qt.

>>83412860
Trolls are meant to goofy and fun. They're insane alien sociopaths from a world without adult supervision. Look at steelcorridor's, they at least have clear personalities that are immediately evident in their design.

They don't need to themed after something specific like his (in fact your better off not, I think), but they need to look like something more than some rejected Harry Potters OC Donuts.

>>83412898
Who the fuck isn't smitten with Eri? That's basically a given, it doesn't need to be explicitly stated.

>>83412936
her lusus is based off of a dik dik
i think any larger horns would kinda get away from the idea

>>83412963
>more than some rejected Harry Potters OC Donuts
i really dont get where you're pulling that from
anyway. i dunno man, the trolls featured in homestuck were the saviors of their race, everyone else would be less special than them be default. this one is one of those nameless lights in sollux's communal hive. she's got an evident personality, its in her name even. i don't see why you wouldnt want to have a theme considering all the other trolls we saw had one

>>83413176
Does she steal Sollux's boxers and sniff them while slicking?

>>83408810
John/Rose and Dave/Roxy
Terezi gets super butthurt because she has no one and looks to Karkat
Karkat turns her down because he suddenly thinks she's super gross

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>>83413223
>slicking

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>>83413176
Okay I got ya. Well if we take the likeness to a dik dik theme further then the horns should likely be thinner, facing upwards like a spike with a slight slant backwards as is the case with the animal in question. They seem to have slight ridges too, which could play into the wavy design I suggested, which would synergise with her hair. In addition it could be beneficial to have her rail thin or smaller, perhaps both given the small stature of the animal.

Another possible option would be removing the large hips, given how thin the legs on the dik dik are. Her legs are already long so that's something that could be in-keeping with the animal, albeit the one in the picture seems pretty squat so mayhaps do the reverse and focus on a more petitie design but with relatively long legs.

There's other options, but hopefully you'll get something from these suggestions. I like the design regardless, but it's rather lejion-esque.

>>83408810
A new SB&HJ and an apology

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>>83412880
that's really lame

>>83412901
How long until someone makes porn of her?

>>83413573
she was created 3 years ago so if nobody has already then they never will

>>83413550
you're really lame!
i dont mind changing her death, its just typically the end all. also i liked having her doom written at the end of her name

>>83413573
why would anyone want to.

If making porn of fantrolls isn't a sign of hitting rock bottom, I don't know what is.

>>83412560
Cute but I prefer Sahtii. Not just for feet, she just felt more like a 'troll', her design reflected both her lusus and blood caste very well.

If Desida were from beforus instead that would be fit her design, but no one cares about beforus so.

>>83412839
>>83412963
Still way better than the fucking garbage that's in Hiveswap. I certainly hope you hate those too.

>>83413550
have you played dropsy the clown? actually the clown there's nothing like yours i just want to shill dropsy.

>>83413745
I always think of Sweet Tooth from Twisted Metal.

>>83412801
she is, mostly
B, K, R, ?, A, D, B, D

>>83410645
He can't be a hero because he's gay and his ideal hero is Bro who is masculine (sort of) which is anti-gay (even though Bro's probably gay himself).

It doesn't make sense.

>>83413979
BARK? KRAB? ABRAKABABRA?

>>83412876
I liked the roll 2X$10'000 played in the comic.

>>83412901
wasnt her fantroll unironcially a rapist?

>>83414032
KRAB DAD

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>you will never be Kankri in this image
it's an obscure but bad feel also post best ships

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>>83414302

>>83414302
We all know you are a cumslut, anon.

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>>83414302
>tfw you will never be cronus in this image

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>>83414428
these two were made for eachother iT ISN'T FAIR

>>83408810
>What are your ideas for the perfect epilogue of Homestuck?
english is "already here" in the new universe

>>83414557
are they slugs i dont understand

>>83414302

Terezi/Sollux is a tragically underrated ship.

>>83414699
they're wearing dresses

>>83414508
Hey, it ain't gay if it's an alien.

>>83414557
>femdom

fag

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>>83414746
>in a threesome with two women
>fag

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>>83414706
Given Sollux is one of the few male trolls without some massive personality flaw, he works with pretty much all the troll ladies.

>>83409878
This legit looks like they are all wearing part of the Beaglepuss glasses

why do people do this

why

>>83414769
there's a difference between fucking two women and being a weak willed pussy who gets dominated by two women

>>83414706
It's Mituna/Latula you silly goose. Thought Terezi/Sollux is good too

>>83414823

Mituna/Latula was canon though. Sollux/Terezi just had a fun dynamic that no one ever made anything about. Mostly because Terezi was always with Karkat and Sollux had Aradia and Feferi.

>>83414822
if its such a weak-willed pussy thing to do why havent you done it

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>we love fines homestuck release of the week is 5 ikimaru prints
lame

i think s0llux is a very nice guy

>>83415177
is that contest over yet?

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>~2 months
>still no news

>>83415311
no
11 more days of voting i think

>>83415324
Homestuck is dead
Hiveswap is dead
Andrew is dead

Homestuck 2.0 will live on as a collab product between Dante, IPGD and Rachel

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It really just hit me; none of guys have EVER talked about Hiveswap's trolls. Like, it's as if they don't exist. Joey gets some attention, but she's pretty much the face of Hiveswap.

It's just so shocking because this was a fandom that used to speculate and have a lot of fun guessing up what a character would be from the vaguest things. Like the ancient art of trolls as humans before we know they were aliens; fanart and shipping of uu/UU before the reveal, all that speculation for the dancestors.

It's actually depressing how badly Hiveswap shat the bad.

>>83415324
it was never going to come before 6/12 at the earliest
you should expect this by now

>>83415439
as far as I can tell, the new trolls are Troll Dave and Meenah Again
I have basically zero interest in them

>>83415324
10 more days, then we get our news.

>Hivebent is still in development guys, boy games are big! Check out this crappy merch. Epilogue coming when I get time.

>Come back for more Hivebent news in a few months.

>>83415439
Don't worry, we occasionally take the time to ensure everyone knows the meme queen is a thing.

>>83415502
>>83415439
basically this. It's Dave, Meenah and the yellowtroll modeled after some chick, who in turned drew porn of the troll.

plus there is a good chance they're all going to die anyway. Because of Sbrub

>>83408810
> Nothing, just Hussie explaining his thoughts about making an epilogue, which lead to him not making one.

I hope for something like, he observed how people reacted to it and is pretty fine with it, since he digs this creating theories, putting pieces together aftermath to a story

Then he maybe teases us with confirming that some theories (without naming them) really nailed his intention

But there is a catch. In that text there is somehow hidden message, that confirms something like..... rage=screwing the rules of the world structure, which would completely explain Gamzees shennanigans

>>83415558
there's nothing remotely interesting about her. haha memes, great writing! great character premise. why is she another peixes visually, like what kind of fucking copout design is that?

>>83415574
Yoiu also forgot weenie troll

>>83415599
fuck off meme queen is perfect

we were destined for each other

as i lie in bed she will whisper "so cute such love wow" into my ears

>>83415599
Memes are hip internet culture, that's what Homestuck is about, right? Bland amalgamates of Internet culture.

>>83415659
you remind me of those people waifufagging characters from the PPG reboot. i hope that makes you think about who you are.

>>83415691
BabyRage

or the trizza approved

WigglerRage

>>83408929
Too bad the ending leaves several plot points hanging (What happened to the Troll egg? When does Caliborn's masterpiece happen? Are the dream bubbles gone for good, what about the Horror Terrors? What happened to Jack, Ms. Paint, and the Felt?)

>>83415599
shes only second best at memes. her character will be based on her issues coping with meme-envy. it will be very deep. idiot.

>>83408810
Everyone dies, these threads stop, etc.

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The best scene that ever happened also was what ruined the comic. Makes you think. No it doesn't stop being a stoner, fuck this shitty comic.

>>83415823
first two questions are answered in the last intermission if you can bear to read it again

>>83415828
'meme angst' is not something i've ever wanted to think about in my life. fuck you.

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troll memes are easy
why wasn't i hired to be a writer wtf

>when u check the computer and it says Don't turn your back on the body.

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>>83415847
reminder that john's punches create mary-sues

>>83415935
when did he punch roxy

>>83415935
when did he punch himself

>>83413550
creepy cloun best clown
he used shotguns, right?

>>83415960
act 1

>>83412560
Whats her caste I cant tell from which caste that sign comes from

>>83415935
caliborn is a victim and needs to be treated as such.

>>83415945
roxy loves rough sex they got up to a lot alone on lowas for as long as they wanted

what if paradox space doesn't revolve around caliborn but actually revolves around calliope

like her muse of space powers passively distort reality to bring to fruition the unlikely circumstances under which she would be called "cute" by complete strangers acting uncharacteristically nice

>>83415935
He never punched Jade or Dave or Dirk or Roxy or Jake or Sollux though.
Homestuck is so fucking awful holy shit

>>83416015
As in, victimized repeatedly? I can get behind that.

>>83416037
its fucked up to think about but this theory holds water

>>83415324
Someone on the backup forums is saying he is from WP and that they're doing stuff and that stuff involves getting forums up

>>83416042
>Jake is a mary sue
dude can't even control the Hopey Thing
he's more like a WMD than a mary sue

>>83416042
can every character in a comic be a mary sue. is that even possible

>>83416042
dave dirk jade and jake are not mary sues since they all have very serious issues to their personalities

for example dirk has just about every social disorder imaginable

>>83416005
yellow

>>83416103
The cast was deliberately made to be the widest selection of reader-inserts possible, it's not hard to see why some sue-ing happens.

Every character is a Mary Sue!

Even You, the reader!

>>83415979
yes.

He has Shotgun and Machete kind.

For the full swamp hunter theme

>>83416037
it's not fucking fair that people can call calliope cute but her identical twin brother is "an ugly skull monster" fuck these double standards!

>>83415960
when he stopped himself from interfering with jade and dave on lohac

he bopped himself on the head with his fist

>>83416165
my god
what about that imp he punched in act 3

>>83416186
WV is an imp

>>83415585
>rage=screwing the rules of the world structure, which would completely explain Gamzees shennanigans
this theory makes me cringe and i cannot understand why it has any popularity at all

>>83416204
what does that have to with the imp he punched

>>83416204
no he isn't, he's a carapace

>>83416042
remember that time in 2013 where he learned that people were calling jade a mary sue so he bitched about it in the book's footnotes and in a homosuck intermission

>>83416073
>Someone on the backup forums is saying he is from WP and that they're doing stuff and that stuff involves getting forums up
honestly i couldn't care at all about the forums coming back, all that matters is the archives of old posts

>>83416186
i think it only works on players

>>83416235
Are imps carapaces?

jade isnt a mary sue because she is a dog and dogs suck

dave isnt a mary sue because he is gay and has serious abuse issues and has real "im no hero" problems

jake is self-centered and retarded

dirk is gay and has aspergers and is abusive

sollux is attracted to dumb bitches and is like half dead or some shit also hes a fucking fag nerd fuck you sollux feferi wwas mine

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>>83416141
Then why doesn't it resemble the twin sign in anyway? Or since the sign is colored grey is she hiding her blood color and also the sign?

>>83408909
When? Where?

>>83416277
no

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>>83416158
>swamp hunter theme
IT KEEPS GETTING BETTER
im spooked

>>83416317
each caste has multiple signs, this was confirmed by hussie and the panel with the matriorb being recreated shows all the jade blood signs, not just virgo

>>83415866
Not really. It tells us that Kanaya will do it at some point, but then the ending just leaves us with Kanaya being Rose's scissor sister.
And that's not mentioning Karkat, who was supposed to be important, but just ends up being Dave's fuckboi.

>>83416362
Didn't all the signs have something in common? Like Brown bloods have that circle and violetbloods have some kind of a sharp wave?

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why do some dersites have sharp teeth and some dersites have blunt teeth
this is worse than trolls having boobs

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>>83415945
>People think that Roxy is a mary sue because she's the only Alpha Kid who isn't completely terrible in every way.

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>>83416412
Nope

>>83416439
wv is a farmer and doesnt eat meat
jack is a predatory agent and so it makes sense that he does

>itt people who have no idea what a Mary Sue actually is.

The word you're looking for is either poorly-written or overpowered. Those are not mutually exclusive with Mary Sue.

>>83416465
But thats old, show the matriorb pic

>>83416477
calliope is the actual mary sue
inserts herself into groups of established characters and they magically love her and hate the person she hates

>>83416465
i forgot, are these two in hiveswap? they were actually likeable.

>>83416477
Thinking about it a bit, the only character that could actually be called a Mary Sue is Calliope.

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>>83416313
Sollux traipses dangerously close to gary stu territories. I like him and his dialogue is always pretty funny but damn.

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>>83416519
There's art assets for them on the kickstarter page, so i'd assume so.

>>83416539
No, he doesn't. At all.
Sollux IS a plot device, yes.
But that doesn't make him a Gary Stu.

>>83416477
vriska and caliborn are the only ones who intentionally self-insert themselves metafiction-wise into the rest of the story as the people everything ends up revolving around. the other 'mary sue's are just badly written

>>83416539
he did have serious bipolar and trust issues early on

i think it's just that his arc was fulfilled halfway through the comic and now he's just sort of floating around peacefully with aradia

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>>83416471
>>83416439
Have we ever seen Prospitian teeth?

>>83416539
This isn't really related to your post, but CD looks super OoC in that pic

>>83416037
a bunch of teens may call calliope cute, but hussie himself calls caliborn cute

>>83416673
Fair assessment. I find it amusing that Sollux is the one assuming the role of the parent, though.

>>83416539
>you will never be bullied by aradia
kill me

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Would Terezi make a good Protag?

How traumatized will she be through the journey?

>>83416617
Vriska is a parody of the concept of a Mary Sue, and while she does bend the narrative to revolve around herself, she doesn't cause other characters to react to her unrealistically, so isn't really at the Mary Sue level yet.
Caliborn is just a straight up villain, more or less the final obstacle for the heroes, calling him a Gary Stu would be absurd.

Calliope actually is a Mary Sue, though. She inserts herself into the main group, is instantly loved by everyone aside from her mean bully brother who's awful in every way and is a big dummy, and gets a one of a kind magical artifact to bring her back to life, because she's special and everyone likes her.

>>83416317
its gray on the blood color instead of the other way around, she's being overtly blatent if anything
meulin wore her symbol like that as well

>>83416749
>Hero: Terezi
>Heroine: Kanaya

???

>>83416749
>Implying Terezi isn't the law hero.
>Implying Karkat isn't the main protag.

>>83416771
Even if Caliborn wasn't a villain, I don't think he could be called a Stu. He works too hard for the power he obtains and has way too many flaws to be one, plus nobody likes him.

>>83416778
problem is she dresses like a beforus troll; alternians don't care much for fashion, so her colors should be more uniform and drab. the caste system is more heavily enforced too, and since she's on the lower end her symbol should be more prominent.

>>83416885
>plus nobody likes him.

:(

>>83416891
she doesnt leave her hive
if she has to she'll wear the convention tshirt

>>83416771
you can argue whether theyre literally mary sues but theyre both parodies played straight of the overpowered power gaming dnd self-insert. which has a lot of overlap as a concept.

>>83416681
maybe their classpects are actually working together to create a mutually beneficial reality for both of them

one where calliope is called cute by the people she admires, and where caliborn is called cute by the most powerful male character in homestuck

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>>83416778
I guess I just dont think it looks enough like sollux's
Here we see that all jadebloods have common motifs and shapes, like looping over itself and those sharp oval shapes like in n/m
though I guess its got 2 pillars so meh

>>83416961
conventional*

>>83416771
Calliope is the weak cast-off of the big bad and the super-martyr antidote to the big bad. But she's treated nice I guess.

>>83416994
>which has a lot of overlap as a concept.
Not really.
An overpowered Power Gamer only requires a player.
A Mary Sue requires a DM as well.

>>83416961
>doesn't leave the hive

she's too overdressed then. i'd suggest making the sweater bigger, putting her in panties/boxers and giving her thigh-highs.

>>83416930
Nobody in-comic at least

Too bad our lord will never know how much the readers love him

>>83417035
Mary Sue as a concept actually has very little to do with power.
Yes, Mary Sues tend to be powerful, but they don't HAVE to be.
Hell, the original Mary Sue died in her story to some illness although,to be fair, she was meant to be a parody of the concept. http://web.archive.org/web/20100830041159/http://www.fortunecity.com/rivendell/dark/1000/marysue.htm

>>83417081
if caliborn had an actual audience who loved his work would he even bother being destructive? it's not like a lot of popular creators aren't huge douches anyway.

>>83416749
the thing about SMT is that none of the non-neutral characters are ever sympathetic

Law Hero - Dirk
Law Deity - Lord English
Chaos Hero - Vriska
Chaos Deity - Bec Noir
Hero - John
Heroine - Jade

>>83417074
no im not making her tumblr

>>83417004
kanayas caste was also extremely tiny compared to any other caste besides fuchsia

>>83417116
hes a red cherub its his programming

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>>83417074
>i'd suggest making the sweater bigger
uh, not sure what that has to do with being a shut-in
>putting her in panties/boxers
makes some sense, because a person who never leaves the house probably doesnt wear pants much
>giving her thigh-highs.
oh fuck off you just want fapbait

>>83417151
make her nude then. who will judge.

>>83417151
>kanayas caste was also extremely tiny compared to any other caste besides fuchsia
Yeah i get that its just....
>muh common elements

>>83417192
if i wanted fapbait i'd have suggested barefoot, i was as bored as possible writing that.

though yeah i now realize i did have metastuck tumblr in mind. huh.

does anybody else get the sense that English is no match for Bec Noir
all Bec Noir has to do is teleport him into a black hole

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>>83417192
w o a h

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Oh man, are we posting our gay Fantrolls now?

>>83417116
I think if he had a fanbase and a loving gf or bf he wouldn't bother anybody

>>83417298
god bless the johnvris shipper that requested this CANON art from the CREATOR OF HOMESTUCK

>>83417306
jesus christ kill it KILL IT

>>83417284
english has first guardian powers too and hes unkillable and he has some sort of undefined power over time

>>83417128
>law hero: dirk
>not good christian boy karkat
>even fits with John as Protag

Otherwise, your list is pretty good.

>>83417284
Maybe if he caught him inside a universe. The Furthest Ring is a no-teleport zone if you remember.

>>83417284
I don't know if you read it or not, but that's exactly what Hussie said would happen if English and Scratch threw down.

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>>83417306
>>83417338
:^)

>>83417306
My only problems with this are that the symbol is a solid icon, instead of linework, the troll's outfit is primarily colored, and the nose looks sort of out of place.

>>83417373
karkat tends toward law but falls short of ideological obsession
dirk's entire character is about his manipulation and control issues, not to mention that he is instrumental in creating Lord English just like Vriska is instrumental in creating Bec Noir

>>83417406
>>83417306
these are objectively good. for some reason the nose feels like what you'd except from a race named after trolls.

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So, what next? I've been thinking of declaring commissions officially open now that I've mostly figured out the process. Haven't gotten any requests submitted through the form yet, though.

>>83417004
Wait, wheres this pic from?

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Screw it, time for my shit.

>>83417486
shill yourself on tumblr next

>>83417549
I don't have the first idea how to do that. Any suggestions? I've been putting tags in all the posts, that's as much as I know how to do.

Would adult Caliborn alone even be any different from LE?

>>83417486
BULGES

>>83417544
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=009608

>>83417579
maybe you could do some kind of raffle and give away the stuff you've made already
like everyone who reblogs has chance to win

>>83417597
We've seen adult cherubs. They have massive wings and are taller than LE, who seems somewhat stunted for a Cherub.

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>>83417545
>Geldin

Does she cut off balls?

>>83417634
What do you think the symbol is

jesus fucking christ

theyre all so ugly
not in like a "bad design or clashing colors" ugly i mean like
not even their lusus would love them ugly

>>83417630
I meant in terms of personality, like does having three other souls in there even change his behavior at all? Does LE do exactly what Caliborn would do if it was just him in there?

>>83412560
You still owe me a print.

>>83417656
"i'm with stupid"

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>>83417192
>thighhighs are fapbait
Did you wank to this scene?

the Lord-Heir Bardprince of Timevoidrageheart

>>83417680
Well, not all adult Cherubs gain LE's brand of power. If Caliborn just grew up, sure, he'd destroy shit but not to the same degree as LE.

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>>83417677
Yup

>>83417710
Not that anon
But yes

http://www.strawpoll.me/10380330

>>83417665
>nothing about 8ULGES or WEENIES

Is this even the same guy?

>>83417736
>>83417634
>>83417406
These all remind me of Tim Buckley's art for some reason. Are the faces taken from there and recolored or something?

>>83417710
pixie vriska is so hot
pre-godtier vriska is so hot
vriska is so hot

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>>83417777
Killer quads ;^)

>>83417777
B^U

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>>83417710
Everyone should at least once.

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>>83417811

>>83417729
I guess what I'm getting at is, what was the point of Hussie putting three other guys in LE if Caliborn with the powers he got from winning his session would be doing the exact same things as LE? Do the others add anything to the mix that makes LE more dangerous or interesting?

>>83408810
A single page of an embeded video of hussie fucking someone cosplaying as vriska

>>83417773
>in secret
its still degeneracy even if its behind closed doors

>>83417852
I personally think that each of the components played some role. Pretty sure someone made an image of that.

>>83417852
probably for doc scratch more than anything

>>83417876
your wish is granted... but the vriska cosplayer is ipgd
#CorruptAWish

>>83417710
vriska was my waifu from the moment hussie posted her sprite to stop people from drawing inaccurate fanart
then she stopped being that after she actually became a character

>>83417852
doc scratch explanation. that's it.

it's fucking stupid.

>>83417887
It's not gay if it's a troll

>>83417926
It's a cue ball, a source of infinite knowledge, and a playful puppet thing. Those were already enough to account for Doc Scratch, no one was thinking there was some critical missing components by the time it got revealed who all was in it.